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NightCrawler
09-13-06, 02:42 AM
Mission 5....

Grid DH77, hmmm never had that far mission for a VII type...
Well i will take a tourism route AN14 than all the way south....
Will take a pitstop in Portugal(i saw BESEL(BLUE), is that a habor to refuell and reload torps?

Because AN14 is pretty growded place full of merchants...

Let me know if someone finish it that mission, hopefully on the way back i can port it in Brest(would be nice) if not, than all the way to AN14 heading wilhelmshaven....

HunterICX
09-13-06, 03:04 AM
:-? too far? i,m 1942 in an VIIC
All of the sudden the BDU send me too grid AC79, the same grid as the harbour of Norfolk USA coast....
I,m like what the hell? thats too far!

is this normal in SH3 when USA comes into war that the BDU sends you to the coast of USA till the end of the war ? or does the BDU comes to their minds and send me somewhere my VIIC can take...:shifty:

Finnbat
09-13-06, 03:15 AM
First go to patrol grid and take the oredered 24h there, then if fuel (or torpedos also) are empty find nearest milkcow or resupply ship. These are seen in the map as blue text telling the name of the boat or ship.

If not any is shown, then open the list of resupply ships (pressing F1 and look there for resupply) there are dates which they stay in those given grids and wait or drive there for them and the given day they will come to that grid.

After resupply your boat the original patrol orders are null. So then it is just happy hunting and do what you want. So no bonus points are not coming like they come making ordered patrols.

Myxale
09-13-06, 03:23 AM
I was wondering those things myself!
One time i got the order to go from Willemshaven to the far west coast of ireland....with my little Type IIA:o

Well one thing for sure the BdU is nuts!:shifty: And i just transfered from Kiel to Willemshave so i dont have to sail around Alborg to reach the PQ AN.

Well didn't made it! A DD found me and DC'd the **** outta me!
I sunk to 60m and somehow managed to survive and lipm back home!

Warmonger
09-13-06, 05:53 AM
A patrol with a iX C in '44 to Capetown (one of the bottom right GR grids) was the longest journey so far. With the many planes it was tideous, running on batteries, snorkeling to recharge and so on. I can tell you that Capetown is swarming with planes and DDs. Got damaged several times so I broke off and headed home. SE off Freetown, while repairing my foredeck and snorkel (again, doh), 2 planes surprised me and sent me to bottom...

:down:

mr chris
09-13-06, 06:00 AM
Im in jan 41 at the moment and bdu gave me orders to take my VIIB to freetown!:huh:
Well have made there and carryed out my 24 hr patrol in my grid square. But am very low on fuel so can not really hunt as well i would have liked but am thinking a resup run to the palma is order. What do you guys reckon?

kylania
09-13-06, 08:37 AM
For those long runs what I do is submerge during the day to save fuel, and run at 9kts at night. Just remember to finish your patrol before resupplying otherwise you lose credit for the patrol since after resupply you're on a new patrol. Though I believe you can use SH3 Patrol to fix that.

mr chris
09-13-06, 08:46 AM
Have finshed my 24hr patroling my grid. Have not seen a ship since leaving base. So was going to resup in plama then head off to doa spot of harbour raiding:arrgh!: Am using sh3 commander which sorts out the resup problem so i wil only spend the one day at plama.

John Pancoast
09-13-06, 09:46 AM
It wasn't uncommon for VII's to do long patrols such as this, Freetown, South Africa, etc.

Might not have been preferable, but it wasn't unheard of.

Also of course, at times, Hitler micromanaged even the u-boats, wanting them sent places Donitz et al didn't approve of.

So, just consider such orders one of those times :)

GT182
09-13-06, 09:47 AM
Long patrols to those faraway grids mean running at slower speeds to conserve fuel. You can make it to Freetown and back if you use batteries along with slower speeds.

Use SHIII Commander and you'll be able to change the Grid BDU orders you to to a Gid of your choice. Grid BE is always a hot spot... 2 or 3 grids from around BE68 have always produced convoys. ;)

Biggles
09-13-06, 10:38 AM
Never had those problems, playing with reality 0%:roll:

kylania
09-13-06, 01:02 PM
Never had those problems, playing with reality 0%:roll:

haha, I remember my first few missions when I got the game, sailing away at flank speed all the way to Iceland from Kiel in my IIA!

Hylander_1314
09-13-06, 01:12 PM
On the long hauls, I do all the main traveling submerged, and surface at night only to charge the batteries, then I'm back under to go a bit further. It's a bit tedious, but I still have a good ammount of fuel when I get to the patrol area.

NightCrawler
09-15-06, 06:38 PM
The Grid wasn't a radio message, that grid was an order to check them out, and stay there for 24 hours(thats reown points) i dont want to loose that....

But i just upgraded for a better engine(500 reown) thats a good start but, i will see, i have no rush in speeding and wasting my fuell, when i started i already calculated that my VII type can reach 19.000 km, so i think i can reach toward the grid but making back will be a difference ballgame, and i saw a pitstop(in Portugal) so i will sneak into port and see if there is a german merchant there to refuel and load the torps, to make back home...
I dont care if cost me 1000reown, just want to make home in Wilhelmshaven...

In regular SHIII game(experiance) was that those grids comes when i am located in Brest or Lorient...
Now in GW is more Tricky(i love it).... so i will take that grid challenge :D, hopefully my crew dont start wining, about taking a pitstop to see some Portugese broads lmao... just kidding about that one....

More further information will show...

NightCrawler
09-18-06, 07:41 PM
Mission 5 ended at grid AM 35, in that grid i shoot the last torp, and hit an escort. so i went home to Wilhelmshaven, but i miss the Scandinavia war, allot's of allied warships that i miss it...

I dont know why the game start with Partol grid DH77 and radio messages came fully about Scandinavia war... after i passed the AN14 was heading to DH77...

But the good thing is... i am on top on tonnages :D....
Hopefully the next mission will be close home....

Salutes!!

U-104
09-18-06, 10:27 PM
On the complete other end of the spectrum, I was based at Wilhelmshaven with my IXB and got orders to patrol AN55:roll:. That is work for a IIA, not a IXB.

CCIP
09-19-06, 12:46 AM
It wasn't uncommon for VII's to do long patrols such as this, Freetown, South Africa, etc.

Might not have been preferable, but it wasn't unheard of.

Also of course, at times, Hitler micromanaged even the u-boats, wanting them sent places Donitz et al didn't approve of.

So, just consider such orders one of those times :)
Believe it or not, these distant grids were where Type IX shined and why they have the highest average tonnage per boat. These areas (in game as in reality) are comparatively scarce on patrol activity, especially in early war; and are full of unescorted traffic. The most successful historical WWII U-boat patrol (of almost 90,000t) was off Capetown! And most of my best were out in the distant seas, too. :)

[edit] crap, you mentioned Type VII

That said, it WAS preferable. Topp and other VII captains were known to overload their boats with supplies just to get to the American coast and others.

Trust me, a real U-boat captain would always prefer a patrol in the middle of nowhere which he has a fair chance of surviving, than one in an area full of merchant ships where he'll die :P

_Seth_
09-19-06, 01:16 AM
Bernard in BdU's office...

NightCrawler
09-19-06, 11:43 PM
I am not worry about to reach the DH77, but it was to early(what i think) to goto portugal and find a milkcow or a german merchant to refuel or load new torps for me...

it's just surprice that a mission came with DH77...
I thought " UUUHMMM WTF"??? look on the map, and said "damn thats a loooonnggg ride from Wilhelmshaven, but i can try"...
And i red in other forums that the brittish channel is a death-trap, so i avoid that, so i have to take a tourism route like AN14 and all around Ireland heading to the grid DH77

But even i should ignore the baby-ships(sanked twice) in mission 5, the torps slinks fast...


And i thought, Dont worry about, you have torps left. but when i saw 3 fat-ships like 7600, i wouldn't ignore those ships, i go after them...
and sunk a pain in the ass escort that heading toward me, and have no choice to torp him, or he start dropping depth-charges on me...

As i said in previous message, i hit the escort in the ass(so he lost a propeller) and i have 1 torp left to "FINISH HIM", man that boat was wasted....

hopefully the next mission(6) i can call a milkcow, i still not figure it out under (F1)..
and hopefully i can goto Brest to end the mission....

Time will tell