Grey Wolves, Starforce, and Questions

[Lanzfeld]

Been gone awhile and I want to dive in again.

Looks like Grey Wolves is the way to go for max realism.

Questions:

1. Does Grey Wolves include the convoy mod that made the ships zig zag and change speed often?

2. Is there a way to install SH-3 without Starforce?

3. What MODS do people put on top of GW?

[enaceo]

Hello!
I don't really know what exatly you mean about that mod ...ships do zig-zag but I don't know if it's a special mod but it is probably included in GW.
Install withouth starforce...<You don't even get a nice try for that one. The only thing that annoys me more than someone openly flaunting the rules, is someone trying to be cute about it. JCC>.
And about tha last one ,well I don't really use anything else with it (except some custom loading screens ).oh,you should try nvdrifter's realism mod (look in the mods section page 2 i think)but that causes some minor conflicts with GW/sh3cmdr but you can still use it and it is a great mod.

[irish1958]

The mod wilth the zigzag is the NYGM Tonnage War 2.01

[Lanzfeld]

So I need GW and NYGM? Why are they not combined?

[Deimos01]

You cannot combine the two. They are incompatible. Many do a dual install. One with GW and another with NYGM so they can play it both ways.

There is a difference between the two mods. NYGM was made with realism being the key approach. GW was made to add some realism aspects and visual/auditor improvements. Try them both to see which one you prefere as they are both great mods in theyre different respects.

[zzsteven]

Can't speak for the stock GW campaign but with Rubini's Unified campaign the ships/convoys do zig-zag and change speed. The link to the UC campaigns for GW,NYGM-TW and Vanilla:

http://http://www.subsim.com/phpBB_archive1/viewtopic.php?t=50377

I install it on top of GW.

zz

[Sailor Steve]

Zig-zagging was first done for the Ops Mod, part of RUB. Grey Wolves convoys DO zig-zag, but they don't change speeds (unless, as zzsteven said, you use the Unified Campaign).

[Ducimus]

Been gone awhile and I want to dive in again.

Looks like Grey Wolves is the way to go for max realism.

Questions:

1. Does Grey Wolves include the convoy mod that made the ships zig zag and change speed often?

2. Is there a way to install SH-3 without Starforce?

3. What MODS do people put on top of GW?


1.) yes.

2.) <...................> forum rules prohibit any discussion <................thats right, thats why this post is censored ..Drebbel....>

3.) Modding on top of GW or any other major mod package is not advisable, the changes are too numberious and many mods touch on the same files in different ways.

[KeybdFlyer]

Re: Starforce. Out of curiosity I went to the Starforce Website, mainly to find out what the hell it was! Whilst browsing their site, I came across a download link for a small .exe file that removes the SF drivers. Has anybody ever tried that? I'm way too fond of SH3 to risk trying it myself :lol: just in case removing them screws-up the game, plus the fact that SF hasn't caused me any problems anyway. I'd be interested to know though.

[GT182]

Keybd, you can run the exe and remove SF. But.... as soon as you put the DVD in and run SHIII, SF is reinstalled.

[NeonSamurai]

All it is is a driver uninstaller for starforce, you need that driver installed to play starforce protected games, other then what we cant discuss here.

[KeybdFlyer]

Ahh, right. Ok and thanks, lol (I wish I were young and clever again, being my age REALLY sucks ha ha ha ha)