3dsmax *.obj Export settings

[DivingDuck]

Moin,

i´ve problems getting self made *.obj files into the game. After reading lots of threads concerning the export dialogue settings i´ve found a tutorial made by Seeadler but unfortunately all screenshots/images were missing. I wonder if someone could advice me of a location where to download those pictures or how to set 3dsmax properly to export to *.obj file that doesn´t cause a crash to desktop after starting the museum out of SHIII.

Regards,
DivingDuck

[CB..]

Sensai's Pack 3D programm (see sticky thread) is i think? the only way to get obj files into the game (via exporting/importing them into the model dat files cloning etc)..
there is some talk of the problems with 3dsmax in that thread--i don't have 3dsmax so i'm not going to be of much use to you on that score--
i haven't seen seadlers tutorial around i must admit--

me i can model with little problem and import again with little problem--but the TEXTURES!!! man what a head-ache--:lol: :damn:
takes all the fun out of the thing

i've made a Blohm und Voss BV 138 sea-plane that i just thought would look nice as a docked ship in harbours etc etc---
the model was great fun to make--the textures utterly impossible --definitely no fun

i've made four different versions and spent a week trying every trick in the book and i'm no wiser now than i was a week ago as to why it just won't accept the texture mapping--there's some sort of multiple redunancy thing going on with the textures in SH3--well over my head

[DivingDuck]

@CB..

Importing *.obj files into the *.dat file using Sensal´s Pack3D is not the problem.
In fact everything works fine until i start the MUSEUM out of the SH3 Main Menu. It starts loading but shortly prior reaching the 100% it ends up in a crash to the desktop.
At first I thought the model could be too complex, but the same problem came up using a simple cube. Even when i import the original *.obj into 3dsmax, export it whitout any changes and reimport (Pack3D) it into the *.dat it does NOT work.
So the problem is definitely a question of the right export dialogue settings in 3dsmax.
But anyhow, thanks for your reply.

Regards,
DivingDuck

[CB..]

@CB..

Importing *.obj files into the *.dat file using Sensal´s Pack3D is not the problem.
In fact everything works fine until i start the MUSEUM out of the SH3 Main Menu. It starts loading but shortly prior reaching the 100% it ends up in a crash to the desktop.
At first I thought the model could be too complex, but the same problem came up using a simple cube. Even when i import the original *.obj into 3dsmax, export it whitout any changes and reimport (Pack3D) it into the *.dat it does NOT work.
So the problem is definitely a question of the right export dialogue settings in 3dsmax.
But anyhow, thanks for your reply.

Regards,
DivingDuck

have you checked to see if the same thing happens in game??

i must admit i have never used the museum when actually playing the game--i certainly haven't checked to see if the same thing occurs when i view my stuff in the museum--and aprt from some sort of obviuos anxiety regarding what might be the cause if it did--as long as the model file worked as per normal in the game it self--i'd be inclined to look else where for the problem--if the model file works in game then it should work in the museum---chances are the issue is either with the museum renderer or with some of the data base entrys that store and show the models specifically within the museum interface-

[DivingDuck]

@CB..

have you checked to see if the same thing happens in game?? No, i did not. It would take too much time to create a mission containing the new vessel and starting it out of the game. The MUSEUM is the fastest and easiest way i can think of to check whether my model is working or not. The renderer should be the same as in the game. So you´re right. If the model is working in the game it should do as well in the museum.
At the present stage of my "work" i´m just checking how the whole thing works. And it appears that i have the same problems i had years ago modeling aircraft for the flight simulator. It´s not the models, it´s always the damn naming- and or file format conventions that slow me down or bring all my efforts to a stand.

Regards,
DivingDuck

In case you don´t understand what i´m saying, i beg your pardon for my bad English. My German is better, though. ;)

[CB..]

No, i did not. It would take too much time to create a mission containing the new vessel and starting it out of the game. The MUSEUM is the fastest and easiest way i can think of to check whether my model is working or not. The renderer should be the same as in the game. So you´re right. If the model is working in the game it should do as well in the museum.
At the present stage of my "work" i´m just checking how the whole thing works. And it appears that i have the same problems i had years ago modeling aircraft for the flight simulator. It´s not the models, it´s always the damn naming- and or file format conventions that slow me down or bring all my efforts to a stand.

Regards,
DivingDuck

In case you don´t understand what i´m saying, i beg your pardon for my bad English. My German is better, though. ;)

with me it's the texturing that allways takes all the fun out it all--same with Flight sim modelling--ive checked the museum and all my models are showing up fine--but i haven't attempted to get too specific with the nameing conventions---
perhaps the issue is with the cloning process?

i recomend trying your work in a mission to test wether they show up ok there--i never test in the musuem because it takes twice as long for me to load the museum than it does to load a mission dunno why--

[Jg511 Schakal]

Try these settings. Worked for me.


http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3964/screen3di.th.jpg (http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screen3di.jpg)

[DivingDuck]

Moin,

@Jg511 Schakal
Try these settings. Worked for me.
thanks, that´s exactly what i was searching for. It´s working. :sunny:

Regards,
DivingDuck

[bigboywooly]

Moin,

@Jg511 Schakal
Try these settings. Worked for me.
thanks, that´s exactly what i was searching for. It´s working. :sunny:

Regards,
DivingDuck

Does this mean you guys are working on some stuff like shipping perhaps ?

[DivingDuck]

Hi,

@bigboywooly

even though i´ve some experience in 3d modelling i´m planning on creating a nice fishing vessel first. Since i´m always running out of time i don´t want to rush into a bigger project yet. I´ve done that before with flight simulator and don´t want to do the same mistakes again.
But if you have some suggestions what vessel first, please go ahead. All i need are some blueprints. And i would appreciate if someone could do the work that goes beyond modelling, such as puzzling all parts together with Pack3D.

Regards,
DivingDuck

[DivingDuck]

Hi,

@Jg511 Schakal

i´ve encountered new problems. After exporting the *.obj from 3dsmax using the same settings as you and reimporting them into the *.dat very bad looking and angular 3d models show up in the museum. It looks like the smoothing groups were lost during the export/import process.

http://www.a7700.de/extern/defekt1.jpg http://www.a7700.de/extern/defekt2.jpg

Any suggestions how to fix that?

Regards,
DivingDuck

[Jg511 Schakal]

Did you smooth it in Max and collapsed the stack before exporting it?

[DivingDuck]

Moin,
Did you smooth it in Max and collapsed the stack before exporting it?
Yes i did. Even when i imported the original *.obj file and exported it without any changes this problem occured. But meanwhile this problem has become history. I´ve updated to Max8.
But, as always, the next problem appeared already. The textures are missing in SHIII. When exporting from 3dsmax a *.mtl is created, specifying the used *.tga files. But for some inexplicable reason they don´t show up in the MUSEUM. The model is grey.

Regards,
DivingDuck

[Anvart]

Try these settings. Worked for me.


http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3964/screen3di.th.jpg (http://img403.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screen3di.jpg)
On - Use materials
Off - Smooth

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