SH3 Commander R2.6 NOW AVAILABLE!

[JScones]

Release 2.6 of SH3 Commander is now available!

DOWNLOAD Through SUBSIM (http://www.subsim.com/subsim_files/patches2005.html)

"Main engine" changes:
- Added ability to change crew officer faces (includes automatic 3D head and hat wearing alignment)
- Crew transfer message now includes crewman's main qualification
- Added new "Static settings" feature
- Changes to "Randomised events.cfg" file - refer to instructions in header of file
- Added ability to recognise when docked at a milk cow or other friendly base and automatically adjust the number of days spent in base to 1 (plus any extra days required to repair damage)
- Improved backup mechanism for scene.dat and Basic.cfg files
- Improved copy mechanism for unique crew configurations
- Randomising new crew names now includes number of patrols, certain medals and experience (ie you're no longer limited to a purely "green" crew everytime you start a new career)
- US rank labels are now the same as stock SH3. SH3 Commander does not support rank "bumping", that is, changing your starting rank to anything higher than the SH3 default
- Crew Manager now warns where crewmen have been awarded the U-boat War badge prior to 13 October 1939
- Crew Manager now warns where crewmen have been awarded the Wound Badge but not the U-boat War badge
- Now looks for and runs SH3Weather if it exists just prior to launching SH3 (when in base during or at the start of a career)
- Added new fatigue model - Grey Wolves 24 Hour
- Added ability to randomise main screen banner - refer to "!!BANNER INSTRUCTIONS!!.txt" under the Banners folder
- Minor adjustments to main interface
- Minor adjustments to all Cfg files

New included mods:
- Hemisent's simulated equipment malfunctions plus optional damage caused by sabotage (simulates the effect of equipment malfunctions plus damage caused by sabotage by randomly reducing default equipment specifications)

View screenshots (http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/software/screenshots/SH3CMDR.gif)

Note that prior to installing this release you must *fully* uninstall your current release. Don't forget to rollback SH3 Commander first and back up any SH3 Commander files that you may have modified!

To download, click here (http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/software/products/SH3Cmdr26.exe). Please note that SH3 Commander's Update feature will not work due to me changing ISP last month.

After you have installed SH3 Commander you can reapply any add-ons such as the Combined Skin Pack. YOU SHOULD ALSO ENSURE THAT YOU FIRST VISIT THE SH3 OPTIONS SCREEN, as some options have changed.

As always, please post your questions/feedback/problems to this thread after reading the readme (http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/software/SH3Cmdr%20Help.html) and FAQ (http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/software/SH3Cmdr%20FAQ.html) (both files are installed into your SH3 Commander folder). Due to other priorities, threads started elsewhere with titles like "Problem" or "Why won't this work", may not receive my attention.

**Feel free to post links to this thread in other SH3 related forums.

[Nippelspanner]

Wow, looks like I need to play SH3 today! Great work Jaesen! :up:

[Miss Behavin]

Fantastic! Been waiting for this. Thank you for all the hard work.

Best wishes!

[JohnnyBlaze]

Awesome! have to download it right away. Thanks, JScones

[Mr.Fleck]

Thank you very much JScones! Nice work again. :up:

Cheers
Mr. Fleck

[Fab]

In NYGM TW 2.0 Teddy told us we had to install three files included with NYGM TW 2.0 into the SH3 Commander's cfg file. Does that still hold true? I don't want to assume we still need them and cover over files automatically installed with SH3 Commander 2.6, but then I don't want to assume we don't need them and end up screwing up something in one of my careers.

[Henry Wood]

Thank you very much for the obvious hard work you have put in to this, it is greatly appreciated. I'm of an age where I don't know how these things work, yet they make the game so much more enjoyable. (I also like the new shortcut with the Kaleun's cap - I must save up and buy myself one!)

Henry

[zoinks]

thanks. great improvement for the game.

[JScones]

In NYGM TW 2.0 Teddy told us we had to install three files included with NYGM TW 2.0 into the SH3 Commander's cfg file. Does that still hold true? I don't want to assume we still need them and cover over files automatically installed with SH3 Commander 2.6, but then I don't want to assume we don't need them and end up screwing up something in one of my careers.
You might want to take this q over to the NYGM thread - Observer had access to the SH3Cmdr Pre-release for NYGM compatibility testing, so he'll be best to tell NYGM users what they must do (if anything) to keep NYGM and SH3Cmdr compatible.

[enaceo]

Finally!Good work !Thanks-a gr8 addition to SH3 .Hope it does not have any problems with NYGM.

[Fab]

You might want to take this q over to the NYGM thread - Observer had access to the SH3Cmdr Pre-release for NYGM compatibility testing . . .

Good point. Sorry about that.

By the way, as always SH3 Commander is fantastic. Couldn't imagine playing the game without it.

[Seminole]

Instructions call for Rolling Back before uninstalling.

What does that mean exactly .?....Roll Back and Uninstall....OR...Rollback, Launch SH3, Exit and uninstall.


I'm asking because when I Rollback and Close without launching I get the message that "No game files will be updated". So I'm wondering if rolling back alone really does anything.

Sorry if this isn't clear...:oops:

[Iku-turso]

Thank you,great work as usual

[Onkel Neal]

Additional download link: SUBSIM Downloads (http://www.subsim.com/subsim_files/patches2005.html)

http://www.subsim.com/nucleus/media/4/20060707-578476464.gif

[JScones]

Instructions call for Rolling Back before uninstalling.

What does that mean exactly .?....Roll Back and Uninstall....OR...Rollback, Launch SH3, Exit and uninstall.

I'm asking because when I Rollback and Close without launching I get the message that "No game files will be updated". So I'm wondering if rolling back alone really does anything.

Sorry if this isn't clear...:oops:
1. Open SH3Cmdr
2. Press "Rollback SH3" button if button is enabled
3. Press "Close" button
4. Press "Yes" button at message prompt. This message is simply saying that no new files will be copied into SH3. You've already returned to SH3 the previously backed up files when you pressed the "Rollback SH3" button.
5. Uninstall SH3Cmdr via the usual Add/Remove programs method
6. Open Windows Explorer
7. Navigate to where SH3 Commander was installed
8. Delete everything BUT SH3Cmdr.ini. SH3Cmdr.ini stores your career details. Delete it, and you'll delete your Commander history and SH3Cmdr settings. This file, and your Personnel Files stored under "My Documents", are NOT deleted when you uninstall SH3Cmdr (also note that any new files added to SH3Cmdr after installing, such as the CSP, are not removed either, hence why this step is necessary).
9. Run SH3Cmdr26.exe

From there you are on your own - just follow the wizard. ;)

[Rhodes]

Yuuuuuuuuuupppppiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii :D :up: :rock: :sunny:

[Rhodes]

Just one question, to have my rank anda when I go to the "manage your crew" menu and my crew rank in german, I have to put, in the SH3 Options -text options- rank translations in german?

[JScones]

Just one question, to have my rank anda when I go to the "manage your crew" menu and my crew rank in german, I have to put, in the SH3 Options -text options- rank translations in german?
Yes. But note that the changes won't take effect until the next time you launch SH3 via SH3Cmdr.

[Rhodes]

Thank's :up:

[602Sqn_Puff]

Game hangs up when it tried to load, running the NYGM mods and little else. Din't have any problems with 2.5.

[MaxenThor]

Game hangs up when it tried to load, running the NYGM mods and little else. Din't have any problems with 2.5.
I am having the same problem. I even changed the files as instructed in the NYGM-TW Manual. Game still hangs.

Edit: Reinstalled 2.5 and everything loads OK. There appears to be a problem with SH Commander 2.6 and NYGM-TW 2.01.

[Salvadoreno]

hmm... I think that miscellanous file has something to do with it. Has any1 tried installing without the NYGM 2.01 files provided in documentation?

edit: Hmm tried running with NYGM 2.01 documentation files and without them. Still hangs mid load while trying to play a patrol

[Myxale]

A big fat Kudos to yer new Baby Scones!

You so rock!:rock:

[enaceo]

I have no problem with NYGM 2.01 ...the game loads fine .Career/missions...
Check NYGM's manual and see which options you have to set/tunr-off in SHcmdr.Maybe you missed something?Also,did you rollback before removing your old release?

[slow_n_ez]

Thanks JScones :D .. Am glad I read this thread before installing so as to know to UNinstall the first great one you made.... :up:

[Sailor Steve]

- Added ability to recognise when docked at a milk cow or other friendly base and automatically adjust the number of days spent in base to 1 (plus any extra days required to repair damage)
That's one I wasn't expecting. It just keeps getting better.

Now I just have to get moved into my own place so I can start playing again.


[edit] I just looked at the screenshots. Poor Egon Unterhorst. Health: Dead.

[MaxenThor]

The game loads OK for me but when loading my Career,the loadbar stops about 60-65% along and stops PC locked program not responding. Now I'm in mid-patrol so that may be the problem;however,having said that I reinstalled 2.5 and everything loaded OK. BTW I followed Jaesons instructions for removal and upgrade to the letter. Also I have it configured as specified in the NYGM manual. I assumed because it ran OK when 2.5 was reinstalled it has something to do with 2.6 but I may be wrong.

[enaceo]

If the patrol was started while using 2.5,and then you installed 2.6 ant tried to load,then that probably is the problem.If you started your career with 2.6 and can't load i don't know what's wrong.I have tried loading /strating a career/a mission and such and i can't get anything to happen.The only problem i have with 2.6 is a little "Incompatibility" with some backgrounds from the NYGM patch ,more specifically the ones when clicking on the map (the ones from 2.0 were the normal one,with Germany highlited in Europe,and the ones from the patch were with a real u-boat flolating.When using 2.6 the image won't change don't know why).

[Maverick2799]

Excellent work!! Thank You very much!!!

Maverick

[kiwi_2005]

Beautiful, just beautiful! I just woke up went straight to the pc hit the enter key logged on the Net and without even knowing it i went straight to subsim, it was like i was mind controlled :o :rotfl:

Thanks JScones!: You rock:

[lurker_hlb3]

For all who are having problems run SH3Cdr 2.6 with NYGM-TW 2.01, I believe I know what the problem is. NYGM changed the various .ZON files for all the Subs. SH3Crd randomizes the “crush depth” which is part of theses .ZON files. The randomized “crush depth” settings were in the “miscellaneous.cfg” in SH3Cdr 2.5, they are now in the “SH3 options.cfg” in 2.6. Even if you load the “miscellaneous.cfg” that comes with NYGM, 2.6 will “not” ready it. Therefore the .ZON files are corrupted and SH3 will hang when loading. To correct the problem opens the “miscellaneous.cfg” from NYGM in WordPad and copy the following:

[CRUSH DEPTH]
;Randomises/sets crush depth for each sub type.
;<Subtype>=<folder/file name>|.zon offset|default crush depth in metres>
;Upper and Lower provides the randomisation range.
;Written to each sub's .zon file
Upper=1
Lower=0.9

IIA=NSS_Uboat2A|x2688|175
IID=NSS_Uboat2D|x2688|200
IXB=NSS_Uboat9b|x2CA2|275
IXC=NSS_Uboat9c|x3066|275
IXC/40=NSS_Uboat9c|x3066|275
IXD2=NSS_Uboat9d2|x2CA2|275
VIIB=NSS_Uboat7b|x1A86|250
VIIC=NSS_Uboat7c|x1A86|300
VIIC/41=NSS_Uboat7c|x1A86|350
VIIC/42=NSS_Uboat7c|x1A86|450
XXI=NSS_Uboat21|x35A8|350


Then open “SH3 options.cfg” and replace this;

[CRUSH DEPTH] ;THIS BLOCK CAN BE DELETED IF UNWANTED
;Randomises/sets crush depth for each sub type
;<SUBTYPE>=<folder/file name>|<.zon offset>|<default crush depth in metres>
;Upper and Lower provides the randomisation range
;Written to each sub's .zon file
Upper=1
Lower=0.9

IIA=NSS_Uboat2A|x2688|175
IID=NSS_Uboat2D|x2688|200
IXB=NSS_Uboat9b|x2C43|275
IXC=NSS_Uboat9c|x3007|275
IXC/40=NSS_Uboat9c|x3007|275
IXD2=NSS_Uboat9d2|x2C43|275
VIIB=NSS_Uboat7b|x1BA3|250
VIIC=NSS_Uboat7c|x1BA3|300
VIIC/41=NSS_Uboat7c|x1BA3|350
VIIC/42=NSS_Uboat7c|x1BA3|450
XXI=NSS_Uboat21|x35A8|350




Also NYGM change the file structure of “AI_Sensor.dat” This is where the “Randomly adjusts active/passive listening device values to simulate the impact of thermal layers” setting are keep. If you look in the SH3Cdr 2.6 CFG directory you will note that along with “Randomised Events.cfg” there are also “Randomised Events_19xx.cfg”, each have entries that effect “AI_Sensor.dat”. Unless you replace theses entries in each file:

[0:data\Library\AI_Sensors.dat]
;Randomly adjusts active/passive listening device values to simulate the impact of thermal layers - by Hemisent
;Only MinHeight values are changed
ChooseFrom=10
RndMidPat=1

0_x0470=-105 ;AI_Hydrophone
0_x05FC=-90 ;AI_Sonar
0_x0784=-105 ;QGAP
0_x090C=-105 ;QClP
0_x0A94=-105 ;QCeP
0_x0C20=-108 ;Type144P
0_x0DAC=-105 ;Type138P
0_x0F38=-100 ;Type128P
0_x10C4=-100 ;Type123P
0_x124C=-90 ;QGAA
0_x142B=-88 ;QClA
0_x160A=-93 ;QCeA
0_x17ED=-95 ;Type147A
0_x19D0=-98 ;Type144A
0_x1BB3=-85 ;Type128A
0_x1D96=-88 ;Type123A

1_x0470=-150
1_x05FC=-130
1_x0784=-145
1_x090C=-155
1_x0A94=-145
1_x0C20=-150
1_x0DAC=-155
1_x0F38=-144
1_x10C4=-145
1_x124C=-130
1_x142B=-135
1_x160A=-125
1_x17ED=-135
1_x19D0=-130
1_x1BB3=-128
1_x1D96=-132

2_x0470=-180
2_x05FC=-170
2_x0784=-200
2_x090C=-195
2_x0A94=-195
2_x0C20=-215
2_x0DAC=-215
2_x0F38=-190
2_x10C4=-190
2_x124C=-195
2_x142B=-190
2_x160A=-180
2_x17ED=-200
2_x19D0=-190
2_x1BB3=-175
2_x1D96=-175

3_x0470=-235
3_x05FC=-220
3_x0784=-238
3_x090C=-235
3_x0A94=-230
3_x0C20=-235
3_x0DAC=-238
3_x0F38=-230
3_x10C4=-235
3_x124C=-225
3_x142B=-220
3_x160A=-215
3_x17ED=-228
3_x19D0=-225
3_x1BB3=-218
3_x1D96=-215

4_x0470=-270
4_x05FC=-260
4_x0784=-275
4_x090C=-270
4_x0A94=-268
4_x0C20=-275
4_x0DAC=-265
4_x0F38=-263
4_x10C4=-265
4_x124C=-260
4_x142B=-257
4_x160A=-255
4_x17ED=-263
4_x19D0=-260
4_x1BB3=-255
4_x1D96=-253



with




[0_data\Library\AI_Sensors.dat]
;Randomly adjusts active/passive listening device values to simulate the impact of thermal layers - by Hemisent
;Only MinHeight values are changed
FileType=B
ChooseFrom=10
RndMidPat=1

0_xC35=-105 ;AI_Hydrophone
0_xDC1=-90 ;AI_Sonar
0_xF49=-105 ;QGAP
0_x10D1=-105 ;QClP
0_x1259=-105 ;QCeP
0_x13E5=-108 ;Type144P
0_x1571=-105 ;Type138P
0_x16FD=-100 ;Type128P
0_x1889=-100 ;Type123P
0_x1A11=-90 ;QGAA
0_x1BF0=-88 ;QClA
0_x1DCF=-93 ;QCeA
0_x1FB2=-95 ;Type147A
0_x2195=-98 ;Type144A
0_x2378=-85 ;Type128A
0_x255B=-88 ;Type123A

1_xC35=-150
1_xDC1=-130
1_xF49=-145
1_x10D1=-155
1_x1259=-145
1_x13E5=-150
1_x1571=-155
1_x16FD=-144
1_x1889=-145
1_x1A11=-130
1_x1BF0=-135
1_x1DCF=-125
1_x1FB2=-135
1_x2195=-130
1_x2378=-128
1_x255B=-132

2_xC35=-180
2_xDC1=-170
2_xF49=-200
2_x10D1=-195
2_x1259=-195
2_x13E5=-215
2_x1571=-215
2_x16FD=-190
2_x1889=-190
2_x1A11=-195
2_x1BF0=-190
2_x1DCF=-180
2_x1FB2=-200
2_x2195=-190
2_x2378=-175
2_x255B=-175

3_xC35=-235
3_xDC1=-220
3_xF49=-238
3_x10D1=-235
3_x1259=-230
3_x13E5=-235
3_x1571=-238
3_x16FD=-230
3_x1889=-235
3_x1A11=-225
3_x1BF0=-220
3_x1DCF=-215
3_x1FB2=-228
3_x2195=-225
3_x2378=-218
3_x255B=-215

4_xC35=-270
4_xDC1=-260
4_xF49=-275
4_x10D1=-270
4_x1259=-268
4_x13E5=-275
4_x1571=-265
4_x16FD=-263
4_x1889=-265
4_x1A11=-260
4_x1BF0=-257
4_x1DCF=-255
4_x1FB2=-263
4_x2195=-260
4_x2378=-255
4_x255B=-253


SH3 will hang up on launch

[JScones]

Thanks lurker_hlb3. I'm sure that is all that is required to get them "back together" again.

But as I posted earlier, if anyone is experiencing problems with NYGM and SH3Cmdr, they should post over in the NYGM thread where the chance Observer will see it is higher. He may already have the solution ready for users.

[DarkFolle]

Congrats, these things make the game a highlander!:up:

[lurker_hlb3]

Thanks lurker_hlb3. I'm sure that is all that is required to get them "back together" again.

But as I posted earlier, if anyone is experiencing problems with NYGM and SH3Cmdr, they should post over in the NYGM thread where the chance Observer will see it is higher. He may already have the solution ready for users.

Roger your last, will post there also in the NYGM thread

[JScones]

Thanks lurker_hlb3 :up:

This will get players going again. I suspect Observer may post a link to replacement SH3Cmdr R2.6 files, or he may have some other method for updating them, or he may just use your solution!

[JScones]

You've reminded me of one thing that is explained in the readme, but I'll point it out for those that, well, don't read the readme...

By default SH3Cmdr will only model malfunctions. It will not model the effects of sabotage.

However, the effects of sabotage can very easily be "switched on" simply by deleting or renaming the "Randomised events_19**.cfg" files located in SH3Cmdr's Cfg folder.

Thus, an alternative to your solution, if NYGM players *want* sabotage effects, they can remove the "Randomised events_19**.cfg" files and just update the "Randomised events.cfg" file. Alternatively, if they don't want the sabotage effects, and they don't want to cut and paste into eight files, they can still follow the above steps, but in "Randomised events.cfg" they should delete every line on from:

;----------------------------------------------------------------------------------SABOTAGE OVERLAY
[Sab0:data\Library\GUNS_SUB.sim]
etc

I'd recommend for player ease that someone just post updated NYGM compat files for d/l, but I don't know whether Observer has other plans. Hopefully he'll visit shortly.

[Observer]

Links removed. Files superseded.

[Cap_Observatore]

FOR GOD!!!!!!!! NOw I can Stop DW and Back to play my SHIII complete. I was just waiting that realease!! SHIII without CH3commander and NWGM is just a eye candy.
:cool:

HHIIIIIII pi HIIIII pi WHOOOHAAAA JScones is our king:arrgh!: :88)

thx:rock:

[kiwi_2005]

SH3Cdr 2.6 working okay on my boat. :D although im running the stock game with just a few graphic/sound mods. But a o kay here.

Down periscope.

[Wilko]

anyone tried to start a carrer in 1944 or 45.. I can't there is nothing available to choose squadron or boat type :o

not a big worry for me cause I like 41 or 43 normaly but it is a bit wierd

[JScones]

anyone tried to start a carrer in 1944 or 45.. I can't there is nothing available to choose squadron or boat type :o

not a big worry for me cause I like 41 or 43 normaly but it is a bit wierd
SH3Cmdr doesn't add 1944/45 start dates to your game - for that you need a mod such as GW, RUb, NYGM, or at least Beery's FlotillaMod. SH3Cmdr just supports these years if they are available.

[Wilko]

anyone tried to start a carrer in 1944 or 45.. I can't there is nothing available to choose squadron or boat type :o

not a big worry for me cause I like 41 or 43 normaly but it is a bit wierd
SH3Cmdr doesn't add 1944/45 start dates to your game - for that you need a mod such as GW, RUb, NYGM, or at least Beery's FlotillaMod. SH3Cmdr just supports these years if they are available.

:p ah my noobyness is showing.. cheers :up:

[NKVD-crazyivan]

Great effort JS just a quick Q.....................
I have GW installed that is all on a fresh version of SH3 and of course SH3C 2.5
so i just do as you say to uninstall every thing except SH3Cmdr.ini and then install 2.6 is this alright with GW and can i do it mid patrol and also in the same carear.
or would you reccomend a fresh install of SH3 then GW then your great SHC 2.6

thanks dude...........

[JScones]

I have GW installed that is all on a fresh version of SH3 and of course SH3C 2.5
so i just do as you say to uninstall every thing except SH3Cmdr.ini and then install 2.6 is this alright with GW and can i do it mid patrol and also in the same carear.
or would you reccomend a fresh install of SH3 then GW then your great SHC 2.6
Installing whilst in a current career is perfectly OK, but I'd return to base first. Then I'd follow the steps outlined on the previous page of this thread.

You definitely don't need to touch your installation of SH3/GW in any way (indeed, this is regardless of whether you run GW, RUb, NYGM, IUB or vanilla), but I will draw this paragragh from the GW readme file to your attention:
This mod is fully compatible with SH3 Commander. However, in order to maintain the integrity of the destroyer aggression modifications, it is recommended to leave or set the "Lost contact time" to 15 minutes in SH3 Commander’s. Please refer to the SH3 Commander Help file for further instructions.

[Fangschuss]

Big THX JScones :up:

2.6 is a great improvment. I´l loved :yep:

[Salvadoreno]

Okay guys. I reinstalled SH3 2.6 clean. Now please, tell me how to go about making it compatible withg NYGM 2.01

[JScones]

Look for Observer's post a page back on this thread. Download the files, then install them as instructed.

[602Sqn_Puff]

Downloaded those files and it still froze up on me at about 60%...so it's back to 2.5 for me :)

[Salvadoreno]

@OBSERVER: It appears that you have not read some of my PM's. I have just d/l the "compatibility fix" file that you have provided for NYGM users. I told you that your NYGM fatigue model will NOT work with SH3Cmdr because SH3Cmdr will not recognise the COMPARTMENT block changes. That's why it was not included, as I was awaiting your response. I never received one. It is not my call to make decisions for your mod, and there's not much more I can do than raise it with you.

Further:
- You have included a Miscellaneous file. SH3Cmdr no longer uses a Miscellaneous file;
- You have used "older" data files for making your changes. I provided you with access to the "final" files (which included Hemisent's NYGM compatibility fix) to make your adjustments to.

There is every chance that NYGM users will still have problems using the files you have provided, especially if they select the NYGM fatigue model.

To quote a phrase, this is exactly what bothers me. And why I do not provide fixes for other mods in SH3Cmdr.

So the fixes do NOT work? My game still freezes up on me with these "compatibility fixes". ANything else i can do?? Should i not install certain files but keep others?

[JScones]

If you're up to it, try lurker's suggestion on the previous page of this thread. It should work.

Everyone, please post any NYGM/SH3Cmdr compatibility problems on the appropriate NYGM thread. Only the NYGM team can "officially" fix the problem.

[Salvadoreno]

do i still install the fixes?? Sorry last question..:D

[JScones]

I would guess not if you use lurker's fix. Otherwise, you'll have to wait for NYGM to post a working fix.

But I've never used NYGM, so I am really not the best person to help you.

[HEMISENT]

Yes. I do NOT recommend NYGM users download SH3Cmdr R2.6 until the NYGM team creates compatible files. Alternatively, you can try lurker's fix which should work.

Sorry guys, there wasn't much else I could do.

Lurker is right on. I checked out the files in question and it's simply a cut and paste affar. Gets a bit confusing but it really is quite simple.

[HEMISENT]

Jaesen
A question for you on multiple installs.
Here's a reply from awhile ago which I pulled from my notes-

"1. Install SH3 and v1.4b patch.
2. Copy the clean SH3 installation and paste it. Rename the new "Copy of SilentHunterIII" to "SilentHunterIII - GW".
3. Copy the clean SH3 installation and paste it. Rename the new "Copy of SilentHunterIII" to "SilentHunterIII - NYGM".
4. Install GW into "SilentHunterIII - GW".
5. Install NYGM into "SilentHunterIII - NYGM".

Test each mod by running the SH3.exe file direct from each folder (or create shortcuts on your desktop to each). If you run SH3Cmdr, you can alternatively use it to manage your different SH3 installations.

Then, after you've formulated your own opinion, simply delete the modded SH3 that you don't like, or keep both and play whichever one at whichever time takes your fancy."

I've had dual installs before with no problems One for playing and one for testing but only used Commander to launch the played version.
Now that I have NYGM & GW I'd like to get Commander to launch & manage both.

I currently have "SilentHunterIII - NYGM" & "SilentHunterIII - GW"
both are working ok seperately but I have a single install of Commander 2.6
when I go to launch I get a window showing the file path and a message "Cannot find sh3.exe in this folder. Please tell where Silent Hunter III is installed."
I'm not understanding something here. Could you please help me with this?
Since Commander has a modified set of files in the CFG folder for NYGM only
(as per previous Lurker post) does this mean I need two installs of Commander also(I like this idea). If so how is this accomplished?

[JScones]

I've had dual installs before with no problems One for playing and one for testing but only used Commander to launch the played version.
Now that I have NYGM & GW I'd like to get Commander to launch & manage both.

I currently have "SilentHunterIII - NYGM" & "SilentHunterIII - GW"
both are working ok seperately but I have a single install of Commander 2.6
when I go to launch I get a window showing the file path and a message "Cannot find sh3.exe in this folder. Please tell where Silent Hunter III is installed."
I'm not understanding something here. Could you please help me with this?
Since Commander has a modified set of files in the CFG folder for NYGM only
(as per previous Lurker post) does this mean I need two installs of Commander also(I like this idea). If so how is this accomplished?
OK. What you need to do is create two *new* shortcuts to SH3Cmdr.exe, with the /l: switch added. For example,

"C:\<Path>\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\<InstallPath>\SilentHunterIII - NYGM"

"C:\<Path>\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\<InstallPath>\SilentHunterIII - GW"

This forces SH3Cmdr to use these locations rather than use the one stored in the Registry (ie the original installation path).

To create the shortcuts, just right click somewhere on your desktop, select New|Shortcut and enter the location as above, press Next then enter a suitable name, then press Finish. Done.

Then, all you need do is click the icon for the version of SH3 that you want to play. SH3Cmdr does the rest.

ONE warning though. If you run "SH3 - NYGM" then want to run "SH3 - GW" afterwards, you MUST first rollback SH3 - NYGM, otherwise, when you run SH3 - GW, you will cross pollenate it with NYGM files. For example:

ALWAYS
-Run SH3Cmdr NYGM shortcut
-Play game
-ROLLBACK SH3Cmdr NYGM
-Run SH3Cmdr GW shortcut
-Play game
-ROLLBACK SH3Cmdr GW

NEVER
-Run SH3Cmdr NYGM shortcut
-Play game
-Run SH3Cmdr GW shortcut
-Play game

Alternatively, you can install (or copy) SH3Cmdr again to a different location. Then, you can point one shortcut to SH3Cmdr installation #1, and the other to SH3Cmdr installation #2. Then you will not have this rollback problem. For example:

"C:\<Path>\SH3 Commander Copy 1\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\<InstallPath>\SilentHunterIII - NYGM"

"C:\<Path>\SH3 Commander Copy 2\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\<InstallPath>\SilentHunterIII - GW"

The problem with this approach though is that your SH3Cmdr.ini files will get out of sync with each other. But that's prolly less of a problem than your whole game getting out of sync!

But I'd only recommend this second approach if you think the first approach will cause problems for you.

[Skubber]

Oooh, I have been waiting for this!. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

:up::up::up:

[irish1958]

JScones,
I assume I have to reinstall the combined skin pack after I install SH3CMDR.
irish1958

[Spaxspore]

just an idea for the next release.

Why dont you add an ability to change your torpedo loadout in SH3 Commander. I know wolf made a tweek pack, but if u use SH3 commander it over rights the edited basic.cfg.

That would make this handy program x10 more handy :)

[Observer]

In any event, here is an updated set of files, tested with the final version of SH3 Commander.

http://rapidshare.de/files/25291330/SH3_Commander_R2.6_v1.7z.html

http://www.filefactory.com/?fa3d5c

You can also download from the ftp server:

ftp://gibbage.mine.nu (ftp://gibbage.mine.nu/)

[Mau]

If I just installed the GW Mod, is the SH3Commander 2.6 will be all right or it will freeze the game at one point.

Should I just go and installed the 2.5 version

Is there significant changes in 2.6 so that I should take a chance with that version?

Thanks

P.s. I just installed GW on a fresh install (stock game). Is the problem with 2.6 is based on a previous install of 2.5 or it is a problem in general?

Thanks

[zoinks]

i'm using sh3 2.6 with GW just fine. if you want to upgrade to 2.6 in your current career, make sure you saved in port before upgrading.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

If I just installed the GW Mod, is the SH3Commander 2.6 will be all right or it will freeze the game at one point.

Should I just go and installed the 2.5 version

Is there significant changes in 2.6 so that I should take a chance with that version?

Thanks

P.s. I just installed GW on a fresh install (stock game). Is the problem with 2.6 is based on a previous install of 2.5 or it is a problem in general?

Thanks

GW is and will remain SH3 Commander compatible.

[602Sqn_Puff]

NYGM files work a treat , thanks for all involved ...now back to my patrol

[Salvadoreno]

Wow JCWolf hasnt been around for awhile. I need some graphics mods :)

[Payoff]

I am not sure how to use the random file for the Combined Skin Pack and officer bodies (clothes). I have read the Readme and Help file but maybe I missed something. The readme states "INSTALLATION: Simply unzip directly into your SH3 Commander installation folder, overwriting existing files if prompted", but there is already a DATE folder in SH3 Commander. I dont want to lose all of that data with the gramophone messages right? Any help would be appreciated, and thanks again for a wonderful addition to this sim.

[JScones]

JScones,
I assume I have to reinstall the combined skin pack after I install SH3CMDR.
irish1958
Yep.:up:

[JScones]

Why dont you add an ability to change your torpedo loadout in SH3 Commander. I know wolf made a tweek pack, but if u use SH3 commander it over rights the edited basic.cfg.

That would make this handy program x10 more handy :)
Actually, SH3Cmdr does not overwrite Basic.cfg. It updates specific values within, but does not replace the whole file.

If you are finding that your changes to Basic.cfg are being overwritten, then it's highly likely that you didn't rollback SH3Cmdr prior to editing your Basic.cfg file. You must rollback SH3Cmdr first. Then you can apply your torpedo loadout changes either directly to Basic.cfg, or perhaps preferably to SH3Cmdr's Static settings.cfg file. This approach is preferred, simply as it ensures that your settings are always used, regardless of whatever mods you install at any given time.

[JScones]

I am not sure how to use the random file for the Combined Skin Pack and officer bodies (clothes). I have read the Readme and Help file but maybe I missed something. The readme states "INSTALLATION: Simply unzip directly into your SH3 Commander installation folder, overwriting existing files if prompted", but there is already a DATE folder in SH3 Commander. I dont want to lose all of that data with the gramophone messages right? Any help would be appreciated, and thanks again for a wonderful addition to this sim.
Don't know about the clothes aspect, as the Combined Skin Pack (CSP) includes ship skins only.

Unzipping the CSP into SH3Cmdr will not overwrite any existing SH3Cmdr files.

[NKVD-crazyivan]

Thanks JS...............i followed your uninstall instructions to the letter.............rolled back SH3C 2.5 then add remove programs uninstalled SH3C 2.5..............went into my SH3 folder and found my SH3C install folder made sure only the SH3cmdr.ini file remained........by the way every thing else was gone....then i just installed SH3C 2.6 and every thing seams to be fine.............All this during mid patrol............

One Q where do you exactly check on the destroyer reaction time thing ti 15 min etc i dont seam to see an option for that................

great effort thanks agian........Also what is the best fatigue mod im using the RUB one i hate crew shifting and is it all right to change fatigue mods through SH3C whilst in base.......

thanks agian big guy love your efforts keep up the good work...........:) :rock: :rock:

[JScones]

One Q where do you exactly check on the destroyer reaction time thing ti 15 min etc i dont seam to see an option for that................
Open Randomised events.cfg in SH3Cmdr's Cfg folder. Look for the lines, near the top:

;----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[0:data\Cfg\SIM.CFG]
AI Detection|Lost contact time=I|15|45|Y ;Randomises the time Escorts spend looking for you after losing contact, in minutes
Simply delete them. Repeat this for each Randomised events_19**.cfg file.

[NKVD-crazyivan]

Hi JS sorry but im lost please be kinf to me i have looked in my SH3C folder and found this CFG file random event.cgf
random events_1939.cfg
random events_1940.cfg
ETC........ETC threw to 1945..........
Do you mean completly delate this whole 3 lines in all there entirerity.

[0:data\Cfg\SIM.CFG]
AI Detection|Lost contact time=I|15|45|Y ;Randomises the time Escorts spend looking for you after losing contact, in minutes

this is the same line in every randomise events_cfg file i dont wnat to stuff up my game files as you know am running GW mod with your great SH3c 2.6

thanks i have been playing games for ever but im a noob when it comes to messing about with files....

[JScones]

Correct. Delete the three lines in *all* Randomised events files. That will ensure that SH3Cmdr doesn't overwrite whatever settings are already in the game.

[NKVD-crazyivan]

I have made a back up file just in case and have deleted siad lines...
JS in your opion what is best to do what i have done running SH3C with GW and delete this lines of random envents or should i leave it and use what i had. what exactly does deleating it do.........................for game exsperance have you deleated your lines or have you left them as is.......................

:rock: :rock:

[JScones]

Well, I don't actually play the game!

However, if the GW instructions recommend changing the value to 15, then that's what I'd do. And the easiest way to do that is simply to delete the three lines.

But, if fully deleting the lines worries you, then simply make this change instead:

;----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[0:data\Cfg\SIM.CFG]
AI Detection|Lost contact time=I|15|15|Y ;Randomises the time Escorts spend looking for you after losing contact, in minutes

Note the default 45 value has been changed to 15. This will force SH3Cmdr to insert 15 everytime it runs.

You could alternative just add a semicolon to the front of the lines, thus:

;----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
;[0:data\Cfg\SIM.CFG]
;AI Detection|Lost contact time=I|15|15|Y ;Randomises the time Escorts spend looking for you after losing contact, in minutes


which will force SH3Cmdr to ignore the line altogether.


Either way will work fine.

FWIW, even though I don't actively play SH3, the first thing I do is personalise all SH3Cmdr's Cfg files to my tastes. And that's the aim of SH3Cmdr - to provide you with total control over the changes that it makes.

[zzsteven]

Just a quick question wondering if I'm understanding correctly. Currently have about 1/3 of basic.cfg pasted into basic changes and make my "tweaks" in Commander. So now if I want to continue using Commander for simple Basic.cfg changes I have to use this format:
;[Name of the file including the full path from the "data\" level]*
;ApplyToPeriod=<Start date as YYYYMMDD>|<End date as YYYYMMDD>**
;<SectionName>|<KeyName>=<Setting> for text files OR

So every single line will need to be prefaced as in your stock lines? :o

MEDALS_CREW|RenownStep=50; RENOWN, u-boat badge
MEDALS_CREW|SunkInPatrol=60000; TONNAGE, front clasp
MEDALS_CREW|SunkInPatrolGerman=60000; TONNAGE, GC

What does this line mean?: ;*Prefix each repeated section name with #: to ensure that the name is unique.
Could you provide an example please. I understand much better when I have something to compare to.

zz

[JScones]

Just a quick question wondering if I'm understanding correctly. Currently have about 1/3 of basic.cfg pasted into basic changes and make my "tweaks" in Commander. So now if I want to continue using Commander for simple Basic.cfg changes I have to use this format:
;[Name of the file including the full path from the "data\" level]*
;ApplyToPeriod=<Start date as YYYYMMDD>|<End date as YYYYMMDD>**
;<SectionName>|<KeyName>=<Setting> for text files OR

So every single line will need to be prefaced as in your stock lines? :o

MEDALS_CREW|RenownStep=50; RENOWN, u-boat badge
MEDALS_CREW|SunkInPatrol=60000; TONNAGE, front clasp
MEDALS_CREW|SunkInPatrolGerman=60000; TONNAGE, GC

What does this line mean?: ;*Prefix each repeated section name with #: to ensure that the name is unique.
Could you provide an example please. I understand much better when I have something to compare to.

zz
No. Just add your lines to the Basic.cfg block that is already there. The text before the | symbol is the section name, and the text after is the keyname. These will be the only changes required.

So, for example, if you want to change the nbdaysinbase value to 44, then just add this line to the current Basic.cfg block in Static settings.cfg (end, middle, beginning, doesn't matter):

TIME|NbDaysInBase=44

Use this method to add all of your changes.

Without the ApplyToPeriod setting, all changes will be used throughout the entire war, which I guess is what you want.

Anyway, here's an example:

;----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[data\Cfg\Basic.cfg]
;The below lines allow player to set U-boat emblem at start of career
RENOWN|FirstRankRenown=100
RENOWN|SecondRankRenown=350

;The below lines provide more realistic promotions (sooner) and medals (longer)
;within the context of the SH3 game engine
PLAYER_RENOWN|RankLevel0=0; SCORE
PLAYER_RENOWN|RankLevel1=1499; SCORE
PLAYER_RENOWN|RankLevel2=7999; SCORE
PLAYER_RENOWN|RankLevel3=15999; SCORE
PLAYER_RENOWN|MedalSettings0=0.25
PLAYER_RENOWN|MedalSettings1=0.5
PLAYER_RENOWN|MedalSettings2=1
PLAYER_RENOWN|MedalScore0=3000;2 class, SCORE
PLAYER_RENOWN|MedalScore1=6000;1 class, SCORE
PLAYER_RENOWN|MedalScore2=20000; knight, SCORE
PLAYER_RENOWN|MedalScore3=30000; oak leaves, SCORE
PLAYER_RENOWN|MedalScore4=40000;swords, SCORE
PLAYER_RENOWN|MedalScore5=50000;diamonds, SCORE
PLAYER_RENOWN|MedalScore6=90000;all, SCORE

;The below lines increase the number of badges available for awarding and defers
;receipt of clasp and GC until later in the war, to closer reflect actuality
MEDALS_CREW|RenownStep=50; RENOWN, u-boat badge
MEDALS_CREW|SunkInPatrol=60000; TONNAGE, front clasp
MEDALS_CREW|SunkInPatrolGerman=60000; TONNAGE, GC

;My personalised settings
TIME|NbDaysInBase=44
etc etc

;----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[zzsteven]

Thank you, it's as I suspected. That's a lot of copy/pasting, will load Basic.cfg into JSGME and have to remember to rollback Commander before I go in and play around with the file.
Thanks again.

zz

[Payoff]

Thanks for the help with CSP. I guess I asked two questions in one sentence. Can you explain how to include various officer skins into SH3 Commander so they appear randomly? In one of your posts a few months ago you mentioned putting different skins in a random folder and they could even change mid patrol, after saving of course. Is this even possible? Thanks again.

[Mau]

Hi,

I am in the process of installing GW and SH Commander2.6
I am fairlay new to this game.

Now since it is the first time that I will be doing that, do I have to do anything special (been reading posts lately in that regards) like deleting lines or doing any ''rollback'' thing.

I didn't start a career yet or didn't saved anything game/sceanrios.

So can I just install GW adn install after SH Commander 2.6 with any surprises?

Thank You very much

[HEMISENT]

OK. What you need to do is create two *new* shortcuts to SH3Cmdr.exe, with the /l: switch added. For example,

"C:\<Path>\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\<InstallPath>\SilentHunterIII - NYGM"

"C:\<Path>\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\<InstallPath>\SilentHunterIII - GW"

This forces SH3Cmdr to use these locations rather than use the one stored in the Registry (ie the original installation path).

To create the shortcuts, just right click somewhere on your desktop, select New|Shortcut and enter the location as above, press Next then enter a suitable name, then press Finish. Done.

Then, all you need do is click the icon for the version of SH3 that you want to play. SH3Cmdr does the rest.

ONE warning though. If you run "SH3 - NYGM" then want to run "SH3 - GW" afterwards, you MUST first rollback SH3 - NYGM, otherwise, when you run SH3 - GW, you will cross pollenate it with NYGM files. For example:

ALWAYS
-Run SH3Cmdr NYGM shortcut
-Play game
-ROLLBACK SH3Cmdr NYGM
-Run SH3Cmdr GW shortcut
-Play game
-ROLLBACK SH3Cmdr GW

NEVER
-Run SH3Cmdr NYGM shortcut
-Play game
-Run SH3Cmdr GW shortcut
-Play game

Alternatively, you can install (or copy) SH3Cmdr again to a different location. Then, you can point one shortcut to SH3Cmdr installation #1, and the other to SH3Cmdr installation #2. Then you will not have this rollback problem. For example:

"C:\<Path>\SH3 Commander Copy 1\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\<InstallPath>\SilentHunterIII - NYGM"

"C:\<Path>\SH3 Commander Copy 2\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\<InstallPath>\SilentHunterIII - GW"

The problem with this approach though is that your SH3Cmdr.ini files will get out of sync with each other. But that's prolly less of a problem than your whole game getting out of sync!

But I'd only recommend this second approach if you think the first approach will cause problems for you.

Thanks, ended up having to make two seperate SH3 Commanders due to NYGM. Working like a champ once I got the path format correct.

What will be the problem with the ini.files. What should I expect?

[HEMISENT]

*Note. For those using Commander 2.6 along with the latest NYGM version.

SH3 Commander comes with the Thermal Layers mod (introduced in Commander 2.5) works fine/no issues with NYGM

SH3 Commander 2.6 comes with the Malfunctions & Sabotage mods available as a merged set or individually(see the read me)

In both of these mods there is are randomized files dealing with the crash depths. The purpose of this was to simulate a problem when ordering a crash dive. There are a number of mechanical and human reasons for a boat heading down out of control. jammed dive planes, stuck/jammed valves, toilet being incorrectly flushed etc. These occurrences are not common but they do exist.

As previously discussed in depth on other posts when you interrupt a crash dive in NYGM it nullifies the NYGM anti hummingbird effect. The player has two options:
1. let the boat continue to it's depth whatever it happens to be and therefore the anti-hummingbird effect will stay as advertized.
2. Interrupt the crash dive as there obviously is something wrong with the boat (you have no idea what depth the boat will finally settle at)and make a decision to monitor the depth under keel very closely. The anti-hummingbird effect will be voided for you but then again your boat does have a problem and it's up to the Captain and crew to compensate.

Thanks to Observer for finding this one and bringing it to my attention during the final testing stages of testing. I've been testing this area particularly in numerous campaign patrols and find no other problems or concerns.

The Sabotage/Malfunctions files don't "break" anything but they do nullify the anti-humming bird effect for that single patrol only.

[Onkel Neal]

I've gone through this thread and cleaned up any off-topic discussions. Please take care of these by e-mail or PM. Thank you.

Neal

[Jager]

Awesome! I love this mod so much, great job JScones! If you don't have SH3 Commander and want a more exciting and realistic career in SH3 then I highly recommend you get it.

[cobalt]

someones gonna get in trouble for their sig :hmm:

[Jager]

someones gonna get in trouble for their sig :hmm:

And whys that ? The flag used in my signature is in SH3 and is historical. I'm not a facist and don't plan on becoming one either :smug: I also reread the terms and conditions for this forum and aside from one mention of "objectionable material" it refers mainly to illegal software so I'm well within bounds here.

[cobalt]

can i install this over my existing sh3commander while im in port using GW ? or will it screw my career up...

[Jager]

can i install this over my existing sh3commander while im in port using GW ? or will it screw my career up...

I don't run any major altering mods via "JSGME" but I would disable them. I also unistalled the previous SH3 Commander and deleted the old folder to start fresh. So far I have not noticed any problems so I hope this helps.

[JScones]

I am in the process of installing GW and SH Commander2.6
I am fairlay new to this game.

Now since it is the first time that I will be doing that, do I have to do anything special (been reading posts lately in that regards) like deleting lines or doing any ''rollback'' thing.

I didn't start a career yet or didn't saved anything game/sceanrios.

So can I just install GW adn install after SH Commander 2.6 with any surprises?
You should be fine. If you have never used SH3Cmdr, you can ignore the rollback step.

Simply:
a) install SH3
b) install the SH3 v1.4b patch
c) install GW1.1a
d) install SH3Cmdr
e) read the SH3Cmdr Help and FAQ files
f) OPTIONAL STEP: if you have NEVER ran SH3 before, you must run it first to create the save game folder structure
g) run SH3Cmdr

[JScones]

can i install this over my existing sh3commander while im in port using GW ? or will it screw my career up...
Well, you can install it without screwing your current career up, but please don't install it over your current copy of SH3Cmdr. Follow the steps outlined in http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=276510&postcount=15 (from page 1 of this thread).

[JScones]

Thanks, ended up having to make two seperate SH3 Commanders due to NYGM. Working like a champ once I got the path format correct.

What will be the problem with the ini.files. What should I expect?
Well, if you keep your careers totally exclusive, there won't be any problems. Just remember that "Oblt Hemi" is your GW campaign and "ObLt Sent" is your NYGM campaign.

It's only an issue if you go into your NYGM installation of SH3Cmdr and try to create a Personnel File for your GW Commander - the details will not be as up-to-date as if you had gone into your GW installation of SH3Cmdr and created a Personnel File for your GW Commander. That's all.

But this is nothing compared to the rollback hassles you have now avoided. :up:

[JScones]

Thanks for the help with CSP. I guess I asked two questions in one sentence. Can you explain how to include various officer skins into SH3 Commander so they appear randomly? In one of your posts a few months ago you mentioned putting different skins in a random folder and they could even change mid patrol, after saving of course. Is this even possible? Thanks again.
Yes it is possible. You add them to the Random file structure. That is...

C:\Games\SH3 Commander\Random\0\Date\19390901\data\Crew\Body\Bo dy01\OFF_TGA\<01_OFF_Body01_D.tga etc files>
C:\Games\SH3 Commander\Random\1\Date\19390901\data\Crew\Body\Bo dy01\OFF_TGA\<01_OFF_Body01_D.tga etc files>
C:\Games\SH3 Commander\Random\2\Date\19390901\data\Crew\Body\Bo dy01\OFF_TGA\<01_OFF_Body01_D.tga etc files>

repeat as many times as desired (you can add more random folders). Each Random folder should include all skins (ie 01 through 04 tga files), but it doesn't really matter. In fact, not doing so will provide even more variation.

If you want you can also change the skins based on date within each Random folder, ie adding
C:\Games\SH3 Commander\Random\0\Date\19410101\data\Crew\Body\Bo dy01\OFF_TGA\<01_OFF_Body01_D.tga etc files>

means that IF SH3Cmdr selects 0 as the random folder, one set of skins will be used UP TO 31/12/1940 and another set of skins FROM 1/1/1941. In essence, this doubles your randomisation chances. If you want, you could have daily changes of uniforms, but I'd suggest that as a tad bit excessive!

Play around with it and you'll see that you can do many things to vary your game from patrol to patrol.

[JScones]

I've gone through this thread and cleaned up any off-topic discussions. Please take care of these by e-mail or PM. Thank you.

Neal
Thank you Neal.

[Phylacista]

Hello,

is there any chance I can exceed 100 days when setting days spent in base?

Or another way to adjust starting date of next patrol?

I missed one W@W patrol and now its 150 days to spend in base so that the date is corresponding.

Thanks

[JScones]

is there any chance I can exceed 100 days when setting days spent in base?
Yep. Open up SH3Cmdr.ini (in the root SH3 Commander installation folder) and change the "DaysInBaseValue" setting to 150. Save and close.

[JScones]

someones gonna get in trouble for their sig :hmm:

And whys that ? The flag used in my signature is in SH3 and is historical. I'm not a facist and don't plan on becoming one either :smug: I also reread the terms and conditions for this forum and aside from one mention of "objectionable material" it refers mainly to illegal software so I'm well within bounds here.
I'll think you'll find he simply means size wise. Onkel Neals' edict being 120H x 400W (http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=48024&highlight=signature+image+size+limit or http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=81920 if you can't access the first thread).

[Onkel Neal]

It's more of a request than an edict :)

Yeah, Jager, could you make you sig a little smaller, it would help people with smaller monitors :up:

[Sir Big Jugs]

It's more of a request than an edict :)

Yeah, Jager, could you make you sig a little smaller, it would help people with smaller monitors :up:

Why that? It's allowed on the Ubizoo where the restrictions are even more tight!

I love his sig, and I think it is a beautiful work of art that should remain in the size it is.

[Phylacista]

is there any chance I can exceed 100 days when setting days spent in base? Yep. Open up SH3Cmdr.ini (in the root SH3 Commander installation folder) and change the "DaysInBaseValue" setting to 150. Save and close.

Thanks a lot JScones. As always your work is very appreciated - even more so seeing you responding so quickly :up:.
We owe you

[Payoff]

Many Thanks. This is a great piece of work. Oh, and the Nightclub is a sight for sore eyes. :sunny:

[baxter]

Thanks JScones for version 2.6. I especially like being able to have crews start with varied amounts of experience.

[fredbass]

I've been struggling to figure out what and where to post my problem. I guess this is as good as place as any.

I can't explain my problem without turning it into some long story, so let me skip that and get down to what I want to do.

I'm going to reinstall everything including GW1.1a, Commander 2.6 and skinpack, and weather mod.

I'd like to keep saves if possible so I can start where I last left off in port. Remind me of what I need to save.

I believe I need to save the SH3 folder in "My documents" and the .ini file in Commander. Anything else like Tutorial stuff so I don't have to train again?

I guess this isn't the right thread, but since all my problems started after using 2.6, it's here for now.

P.S. I'm not blaming 2.6. I'm sure it was something else.

[fredbass]

Well I finally got it all installed and running again. whew :up:

I had one hickup which I got a little lucky I think.

When I installed Commander again. It wouldn't recognize my existing player but I typed in his name again as a new player with the existing time, boat etc. I put my options back as b4 and now it recognizes him as the existing I guess. :up:

All I know is I'm playing again in my latest patrol.

[mike_espo]

Is it possible to use the Malfunction/Sabotage random events .cfg files for the type IIs? I did not see any references for the type IIs other than randomize crush depth.....

[Herazio]

This might be a very dumb question. But I've been wondering for quite some time what SH3 Commander is. I've heard a lot of fuss about this mod and now I really actually wonder what it does :P. Cause I haven't found anything on that yet. Anyhow I'm sorry if I maybe didn't read the text correcty.

Bryan,

Ps:. Thank you all for being such a great community !

[HEMISENT]

Is it possible to use the Malfunction/Sabotage random events .cfg files for the type IIs? I did not see any references for the type IIs other than randomize crush depth.....

Sorry, but as of right now the type II's haven't been completed yet. My emphasis was on the more popular, larger boats. The next version of Sabotage/Malfunctions should have the type II's included. It will simply be a cut and paste affair into Randomized events.CFG

[mike_espo]

Is it possible to use the Malfunction/Sabotage random events .cfg files for the type IIs? I did not see any references for the type IIs other than randomize crush depth.....

Sorry, but as of right now the type II's haven't been completed yet. My emphasis was on the more popular, larger boats. The next version of Sabotage/Malfunctions should have the type II's included. It will simply be a cut and paste affair into Randomized events.CFG

Thanks:up:

Yes,thats what I was thinking : with 2.6, could we do a copy/paste and just use a different path for the type IIs?

Would it work?

[Henry Wood]

This might be a very dumb question. But I've been wondering for quite some time what SH3 Commander is. I've heard a lot of fuss about this mod and now I really actually wonder what it does :P. Cause I haven't found anything on that yet. Anyhow I'm sorry if I maybe didn't read the text correcty.

Bryan,

Ps:. Thank you all for being such a great community !

Go to: http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/software/products.html
and click on 'SH3 Commander - View documentation' and read all about it. Also a couple of good screenshots to see.
IMHO, It is the best add-on going for SH3, even if you are just starting out and running a vanilla (unmodded) version of the sim.

[Jonte]

Hi!

Does anyone know if HT standalone 1.47 works with SH3C 2.6? And does the two of them work with SH3 world 3.0? I'm thinking that those mods would be a good start?

:hmm:

[HEMISENT]

Hi!

Does anyone know if HT standalone 1.47 works with SH3C 2.6? And does the two of them work with SH3 world 3.0? I'm thinking that those mods would be a good start?

:hmm:

Commander runs outside the game so it has no problems with any of the Harbor Traffic versions. Don't know anything about World 3.0 but If it's a mod for SHIII there's no reason why the two won't work together.

[Gizzmoe]

Unstickied and moved to Mods forum.

[Onkel Neal]

Jones asked if we could re-sticky this, so I'll stick it back up there until the replies stop :up:

[fredbass]

I've read the discussions prior to release about what was being done with the sabatage portion of 2.6, and I know how to turn it on if I choose, but I'm not real good at understanding all the settings that concern said subject.

I read where sabotage doesn't break anything. Does that mean I can't fix any problems from sabotage? I don't care to go back to the .cfg file again to try to understand unless I have to. Is sabotage permanently crippling? Is there anything I can do about it in patrol or in port during gameplay?

Sorry if I missed the explanation.

Edit: Wish I had seen a link, but I think I found the mods thread. That should cover it I think.

[GT182]

Just a bit of a problem uninstalling SHIII Commander 2.3...... it's not in my Add/Remove Programs. And, nothing listed in Program Files either. What's the best way to uninstall without it listed in these places where the uninstall should be?

[Sailor Steve]

Since it works outside the game, I would just do a rollback and then delete the SH3 Commander folder.

But don't listen to me-I'm an idiot when it comes to these things.

[HEMISENT]

I read where sabotage doesn't break anything. Does that mean I can't fix any problems from sabotage? I don't care to go back to the .cfg file again to try to understand unless I have to. Is sabotage permanently crippling? Is there anything I can do about it in patrol or in port during gameplay?


Assuming you understand that Commander may or may not choose to issue you a "loaded" file each time you launch the game.
Also, your odds of receiving a loaded file depend on the year and the boat.

There are a number of different files in Sabotage/Malfunctions, they range between minor, serious and major/critical.
Some of the problems you may encounter are minor annoyances a few examples are: Attack scope takes a few extra seconds to clear up. Schnorkel takes a bit longer to extend/retract, Battery range slightly reduced etc. These are examples of problems that can be dealt with and there's no reason to scrub the mission.

On the other hand there are versions of these same files that are borderline or serious such as: Attack scope blurred + Obs scope blurred- both clear up and are fully operational, Schnorkel takes a number of minutes to raise but comes up and is fully operational, Battery range reduced by around 40% but still borderline servicable, Flank speed reduced somewhat but again is borderline.

Some examples of critical problems are: Attack scope stays blurred you must rely on Obs scope and that too takes awhile to clear, Battery range reduced by around 80%, Schnorkel takes effort to raise (1+hour) and is best left in the raised position for the duration. Flak guns jam after a single clip is fired. Flank & full speed settings are greatly reduced etc.
These and other files would likely cause the Captain to order the boat back to base asap.

As for "repairing" the problems yourself-yes and no. Commander has the ability to make a given file valid for the duration of the mission or to allow its value to change each time it is launched. There are certain files which will stay with you for the duration of the mission and others that will resolve themselves upon re-launching. The problem you have is that you can save/exit/re-launch and perhaps "repair" a problem but Commander may give you something far worse to deal with. It's a crap shoot.

I've found that the "critical" files are seldom seen but they are out there.

The Sabotage/Malfunctions files do not "Break" any current mod in use, however should you interrupt the crash dive sequence you will nullify the anti-hummingbird effect of NYGM(if your running NYGM). There are numerous posts about this elsewhere.

Hope this helps.

[JScones]

Just a bit of a problem uninstalling SHIII Commander 2.3...... it's not in my Add/Remove Programs. And, nothing listed in Program Files either. What's the best way to uninstall without it listed in these places where the uninstall should be?
Did you originally d/l and install the .7z version of SH3Cmdr R2.3? If so, you won't have an entry in the Add/Remove list. An entry only appears when you install using the installer version.

If you originally d/l the .7z version and unzipped it to your harddrive, all you need to do is, as Sailor Steve stated, rollback SH3Cmdr then manually delete the folder you installed it into (but keeping SH3Cmdr.ini if you want to retain your Commander history data).

You can then install the latest version over the top.

[Rilder]

ummm did this remove ship spotted messages? cause ever since ive started using this I can drive right up to a enemy merchant with full watch crew set and I dont get the "Ship spotted, Sir" message :cry:

[JScones]

ummm did this remove ship spotted messages? cause ever since ive started using this I can drive right up to a enemy merchant with full watch crew set and I dont get the "Ship spotted, Sir" message :cry:
Nope, not at all.

[Rilder]

hmm then i wonder whats causing this... the only other modding ive done at all is some tweaking with the renown settings ( how much you get for completing a patrol and all that)

[gabeeg]

Thats interesting...I am no longer getting the ship spotted message either since installing R2.6. Just noticed this yesterday....twice ships just show up causing me momentary panic :) Happened a few times previously (after installing 2.6 but did not worry about it till yesterday. It is not a big deal...until it causes me to be sunk :)

[JScones]

Re the missing crew voices, have you read the SH3Cmdr FAQ? There's one FAQ that may be a possible solution for you:

Q: Since using SH3 Commander I can no longer hear speech or most sound effects. What sound files does SH3 Commander overwrite?
A: SH3 Commander does not overwrite any game sound files. This problem will occur if you set the "Character animations", "Sound effects" and/or "Particle rendering" Time Compression events to 1. Reset each event back to the default value and try again (a Rollback is not sufficient to reset these settings). If your problem persists, scrutinise any new mods that you have installed since you last had full sound.

If it's not that, then I can't help you. I mean, provided you have text entries in **_menu.txt between 810 and 817, I wouldn't even know *how* to remove ship spotted messages and certainly haven't made such changes in R2.6 - just look at the R2.6 Release Notes!

Alternatively, perhaps you are running TC too high? It may interfere.

[Rilder]

I just reinstalled SHIII and it works fine, also it probably wasnt helping that of most of the times when this happened it was when i didnt have an officer on watch even if i had a petty officer :p

[gabeeg]

well, I did an additional rollback and start with SH3 Commander and never went over 128 TC, and "shipped spotted" worked as it should. Thanks.

[mark4x5]

I had somthing interesting happen last night when I was playing SHIII. I am playing in 1940 in the 2nd flottilla and was beginning to wonder when my base will change to Lorent (sic). Well to make a long story short I started ran commander liike normal and clicked the launch SHIII button and I got a pop up I have not got before "Base Changed to Lorent". I thought well this is cool, however when I get to the mission screen I am still starting in Whillhaven (sic) and an returning to Whillhaven. I thought well OK whatever, saved game and restarted back to the same patrol,this time I get null patrol in the SH3 commander screen and the mission orders have changed to start in Whillhaven and return to Lorent with a Null patrol grid, however the clipboard at the side menu (don't know the corrcect term) under misin goals still gives me a destination of DH12 and not a null patrol. I was just wondering what is going on.

[KLARCH]

Hi all, Noob here.

Got a question about random career length.

It says in the SH3Comm help file that the randomisation occurs every time you launch from SH3Comm except when in mid patrol. Does that mean if I start a career with this option checked and it decides to retire me after say 6 patrols, when I get back to base after 1st patrol I must uncheck this option before launching again or it will AGAIN randomly assign me to retire after say 8 patrols? If this is the case if the box is not unchecked after first launch I would never get retired correctly.

Right?

[JScones]

Hi all, Noob here.

Got a question about random career length.

It says in the SH3Comm help file that the randomisation occurs every time you launch from SH3Comm except when in mid patrol. Does that mean if I start a career with this option checked and it decides to retire me after say 6 patrols, when I get back to base after 1st patrol I must uncheck this option before launching again or it will AGAIN randomly assign me to retire after say 8 patrols? If this is the case if the box is not unchecked after first launch I would never get retired correctly.

Right?
:doh: My brain hurts! I honestly don't understand what you are saying or asking, so I will just explain the feature. Simply, with the option selected, EVERY TIME you press "Launch SH3!" when you are DOCKED (that is, NOT mid-patrol), SH3Cmdr performs a small calculation to determine whether you should be retired. The calculation is based on the number of patrols completed and the number of days spent at sea AT THE TIME OF CALCULATION. If the result of the calculation is true, you are retired. Conversely, if false, SH3 loads and the game continues as usual.

The calculation is ONLY performed AFTER you press the "Launch SH3!" button and ONLY if you are DOCKED. It is performed for that ONE time only and repeated fresh EVERY time you press the "Launch SH3!" button.

The (user adjustable) lookup table that controls this feature can be found in SH3 options.cfg.

I hope this helps.

[KLARCH]

Hi all, Noob here.

Got a question about random career length.

It says in the SH3Comm help file that the randomisation occurs every time you launch from SH3Comm except when in mid patrol. Does that mean if I start a career with this option checked and it decides to retire me after say 6 patrols, when I get back to base after 1st patrol I must uncheck this option before launching again or it will AGAIN randomly assign me to retire after say 8 patrols? If this is the case if the box is not unchecked after first launch I would never get retired correctly.

Right?
:doh: My brain hurts! I honestly don't understand what you are saying or asking, so I will just explain the feature. Simply, with the option selected, EVERY TIME you press "Launch SH3!" when you are DOCKED (that is, NOT mid-patrol), SH3Cmdr performs a small calculation to determine whether you should be retired. The calculation is based on the number of patrols completed and the number of days spent at sea AT THE TIME OF CALCULATION. If the result of the calculation is true, you are retired. Conversely, if false, SH3 loads and the game continues as usual.

The calculation is ONLY performed AFTER you press the "Launch SH3!" button and ONLY if you are DOCKED. It is performed for that ONE time only and repeated fresh EVERY time you press the "Launch SH3!" button.

The (user adjustable) lookup table that controls this feature can be found in SH3 options.cfg.

I hope this helps.

I originally thought that if checked and launched it would assign a SET number of patrols, or SET number of days at sea and retire you when reached. If left checked and launched again it would REASSIGN a new SET number.

Example: Launch new career and get a max 7 patrol career. Finish patrol and relaunch and get a new value assigned like 10 patrols. etc.

In short, I thought I had to uncheck it on subsequent launches or get assigned a new random career length.

I think I understand now. Leave it checked and it will eventually retire me.

Thanks for the fast response and the great mod.

[JScones]

I originally thought that if checked and launched it would assign a SET number of patrols, or SET number of days at sea and retire you when reached. If left checked and launched again it would REASSIGN a new SET number.

Example: Launch new career and get a max 7 patrol career. Finish patrol and relaunch and get a new value assigned like 10 patrols. etc.

In short, I thought I had to uncheck it on subsequent launches or get assigned a new random career length.

I think I understand now. Leave it checked and it will eventually retire me.

Thanks for the fast response and the great mod.
Oh, I see. No, the feature doesn't work that way. It doesn't "preset" retirement (although I kinda like the "fate" feeling), it determines it exclusively at the beginning of each new patrol. If the random numbers fall your way, your career could go well beyond 16 patrols, otherwise, you may get an average of 8 or so.

[KLARCH]

Oh, I see. No, the feature doesn't work that way. It doesn't "preset" retirement (although I kinda like the "fate" feeling), it determines it exclusively at the beginning of each new patrol. If the random numbers fall your way, your career could go well beyond 16 patrols, otherwise, you may get an average of 8 or so.

Thanks a lot for the great explaination of this option.:up:
You guys have done GREAT things with this game to make it better for all.:rock:

You have my thanks.

[baxter]

I am receiving medals much sooner in my careers than I should. For example, after 5 patrols in a type II in which I sunk 7 ships for a total of 32,367 tons, I was awarded a Knight's Cross! I'm not sure if this is due to NYGM Tonnage War or maybe because I use SH3 Commander with Tonnage War. Any idea how I could correct this, maybe by altering something in the SH3 Commander Cfg file?

[JScones]

I am receiving medals much sooner in my careers than I should. For example, after 5 patrols in a type II in which I sunk 7 ships for a total of 32,367 tons, I was awarded a Knight's Cross! I'm not sure if this is due to NYGM Tonnage War or maybe because I use SH3 Commander with Tonnage War. Any idea how I could correct this, maybe by altering something in the SH3 Commander Cfg file?
Yes, to ensure compatibility with NYGM, I had to "remove" the SH3Cmdr PLAYER_RENOWN settings. SH3Cmdr used the original RUb settings, which provided more realistic* promotions (sooner - yes, sometimes history can work in the player's favour! ;)) and medals (longer - well, one out of two).

You can get the "traditional" SH3Cmdr settings back by opening "Static settings.cfg" and removing the semicolons from the begining of the 14 PLAYER_RENOWN lines. Note though, that I do not know what impact this will have in NYGM.

* over stock SH3.

[mortakos]

outstanding work pal!it seems that we are going to have a nice time using your work!!!

[baxter]

JScones - Thanks for the reply and help.

[Mr. X]

Hi to ALL, I'm new with this simulator and I've just installed Commander 2.6. I haven't well understand if I must launch SH3 from Commander every time I play or only when I made some change to SH3.
Thanks
Alex

[JScones]

Hi to ALL, I'm new with this simulator and I've just installed Commander 2.6. I haven't well understand if I must launch SH3 from Commander every time I play or only when I made some change to SH3.
Yes, launch SH3 *every* time via SH3Cmdr.

[Paul Roberts]

Here's another question about launching:

Having launched SH3 through SH3 Commander and played a couple of single missions for practice, do I have to back out and re-launch using "Set up for a new career" if I then want to start a new career? (I failed to do this yesterday, but I don't want to start my first mission over...)

[JScones]

Having launched SH3 through SH3 Commander and played a couple of single missions for practice, do I have to back out and re-launch using "Set up for a new career" if I then want to start a new career? (I failed to do this yesterday, but I don't want to start my first mission over...)
You don't have to start new careers via SH3Cmdr, but doing so does provide more flexibility, including the ability to:
- include international characters in your Commander's name
- start your career in any month of the war (assuming you have a Flotilla mod installed which adds 1944 and 1945 start dates)
- commence with experienced crew
- select any u-boat type and variation available to the selected Flotilla at the selected date
- set your u-boat number
- set your first patrol grid

However, SH3Cmdr will happily recognise and work with careers started directly in SH3.

[Paul Roberts]

Thanks for the answer, and for the excellent SH3 Commander!

[catar M]

How do I change my patrol grid fro NULL to actual position on map after docking in friendly port or Milk cow.I try to do that ,quit the game,in Commander change it to C28 but when I start the game again it's NULL again.Anyone? Thanks

[^SG^]

Could somebody describe GW Fatigue 8hrs option for me? I do not have GW installed, and without it the overall fatigue model experience is just like the stock game for me...

[bigboywooly]

Could somebody describe GW Fatigue 8hrs option for me? I do not have GW installed, and without it the overall fatigue model experience is just like the stock game for me...

Basically it means your crew is fatigued ( tired ) after 8 hours and then have to be rotated to rest areas - its to simulate shifts and watches
24hr means they only need to go to rest area once a day

[^SG^]

Basically it means your crew is fatigued ( tired ) after 8 hours and then have to be rotated to rest areas - its to simulate shifts and watches
24hr means they only need to go to rest area once a day

Thanks, but can you tell me how the GW mod works in terms of fatigue/compression rules? Am I right that fatigue is on there even for higher levels of TC?

[baxter]

JScones wrote;


Quote:
Originally Posted by baxter
I am receiving medals much sooner in my careers than I should. For example, after 5 patrols in a type II in which I sunk 7 ships for a total of 32,367 tons, I was awarded a Knight's Cross! I'm not sure if this is due to NYGM Tonnage War or maybe because I use SH3 Commander with Tonnage War. Any idea how I could correct this, maybe by altering something in the SH3 Commander Cfg file?

Yes, to ensure compatibility with NYGM, I had to "remove" the SH3Cmdr PLAYER_RENOWN settings. SH3Cmdr used the original RUb settings, which provided more realistic* promotions (sooner - yes, sometimes history can work in the player's favour! ;)) and medals (longer - well, one out of two).

You can get the "traditional" SH3Cmdr settings back by opening "Static settings.cfg" and removing the semicolons from the begining of the 14 PLAYER_RENOWN lines. Note though, that I do not know what impact this will have in NYGM.

* over stock SH3.


I made this change, but the result was receiving Knight's Cross and everything beyond (Oak Leaves, Diamonds, etc) on my second patrol on which I sunk 12,000 tons (apparently the unpredictable impact in NYGM you mention above). So I put the semicolons back in front of those 14 lines. Can I edit those figures you have for medals and promotions? For example, in the line "
PLAYER_RENOWN|MedalScore2=20000; knight, SCORE" would raising 20000 to say 30000 result in the knight's cross being awarded later?

[JScones]

You can, although you may need to consult the NYGM team to determine impacts.

[JScones]

Due primarily to a loss of enjoyment in reading flame wars and bait posts, I will not be visiting these forums as much as I used to. This thread will prolly be the only thread that I review.

I will be setting up an alternative support mechanism for SH3Cmdr which will allow SH3Cmdr users continued access to support (by rights I should have my own support mechanism outside of Subsim, but Neal has been such a great host that I never found it necessary). In the meantime, however, if you have a problem and cannot find the solution in either the SH3Cmdr Help or SH3Cmdr FAQ files, or this thread, then please post here and either I, or I'm sure other experienced SH3Cmdr users, will assist.

Alternatively, SH3Cmdr supporters (ie those that have made a donation) can ensure premium support by PM'ing me or emailling me at the address outlined in the SH3Cmdr Help file. SH3Cmdr supporters will continue to receive the highest level of support.

Please note that this is not an indication that I am ceasing support for SH3Cmdr, just that the support channel will change. Users who are on my notified list will be kept abreast of all changes.

I'm sure though, that some paths will again cross at a later date. ;)

[fredbass]

How do I change my patrol grid fro NULL to actual position on map after docking in friendly port or Milk cow.I try to do that ,quit the game,in Commander change it to C28 but when I start the game again it's NULL again.Anyone? Thanks

I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong, but I think the SH3Patrol mod fixes that for you.

[Jager]

I am wondering if there is a way to change the default folder address in SH3 Commander so it can update a different folder within my SH3 directory and prehaps update two folders at the same time ? The reason being is that I am going to try getting NYGM Tonnage war mod working, but I still wish to play with the Grey Wolves mod in my other SH3 folder. Thanks for any help.

Edit: Am I on your list, JScones ? ;)
Edit2: NYGM Tonnage War 2.0 is the lastest version of the mod ?

[JScones]

I am wondering if there is a way to change the default folder address in SH3 Commander so it can update a different folder within my SH3 directory and prehaps update two folders at the same time ? The reason being is that I am going to try getting NYGM Tonnage war mod working, but I still wish to play with the Grey Wolves mod in my other SH3 folder. Thanks for any help.
If you have two or more SH3 installations, and one of them contains NYGM, then the best option may be to have two installations of SH3Cmdr. I recommend this as if you only had one installation of SH3Cmdr then you'd need to swap the NYGM files in and out depending on what modded version of SH3 you want to play.

However, regardless of whether you have one installation of SH3Cmdr or more, the way to "point" it to a unique installation of SH3 is simply to create a new shortcut on your desktop (or edit the existing one), pointing to SH3Cmdr.exe, but with /l:"C:\<installPath>\SilentHunterIII - NYGM" (for example) added to the end. Thus you could end up with multiple shortcuts with the following shoretcuts, all pointing to different SH3 installations:

"C:\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\<installPath>\SilentHunterIII - GW"
"C:\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\<installPath>\SilentHunterIII - NYGM"
"C:\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\<installPath>\SilentHunterIII - RUB"
etc...

Edit2: NYGM Tonnage War 2.0 is the lastest version of the mod ?
Yes and no - there have been a few minor update patches released since NYGM 2.0. Checkout the NYGM sticky in this forum.

[Ivan Putski]

Very nice indeed, just installed new SH3 Commander, no probs, thanks.

[HEMISENT]

I am wondering if there is a way to change the default folder address in SH3 Commander so it can update a different folder within my SH3 directory and prehaps update two folders at the same time ? The reason being is that I am going to try getting NYGM Tonnage war mod working, but I still wish to play with the Grey Wolves mod in my other SH3 folder. Thanks for any help.
If you have two or more SH3 installations, and one of them contains NYGM, then the best option may be to have two installations of SH3Cmdr. I recommend this as if you only had one installation of SH3Cmdr then you'd need to swap the NYGM files in and out depending on what modded version of SH3 you want to play.

However, regardless of whether you have one installation of SH3Cmdr or more, the way to "point" it to a unique installation of SH3 is simply to create a new shortcut on your desktop (or edit the existing one), pointing to SH3Cmdr.exe, but with /l:"C:\<installPath>\SilentHunterIII - NYGM" (for example) added to the end. Thus you could end up with multiple shortcuts with the following shoretcuts, all pointing to different SH3 installations:

"C:\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\<installPath>\SilentHunterIII - GW"
"C:\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\<installPath>\SilentHunterIII - NYGM"
"C:\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\<installPath>\SilentHunterIII - RUB"
etc...

Edit2: NYGM Tonnage War 2.0 is the lastest version of the mod ?
Yes and no - there have been a few minor update patches released since NYGM 2.0. Checkout the NYGM sticky in this forum.

Yep, this is exactly what I did per your advice and it works like a dream. My problem now is that I cannot get TT's Mini tweaker to direct itself to different paths. I tried this method but it won't work.
NYGM has changed certain values so the mini tweaker has to be changed back and forth for NYGM files to GW files.

Thanks again Jaesen for all that you've brought to the community. Please don't disappear completely. Your right about the childish behaviour - the maturity level is definately on the downswing lately. Too bad as this is one of the greatest sites out there.

[noe]

hi

I have a question about thermal layers future in sh3 commander.

Always when I run sh3 by sh3 commander the min height values in ai_sensors.dat stay at default -300. Is this ok?

Does the values schould change in every run of commander or not?

[JScones]

Always when I run sh3 by sh3 commander the min height values in ai_sensors.dat stay at default -300. Is this ok?

Does the values schould change in every run of commander or not?
Assuming that you have not manually edited any of the "Randomised events.cfg" files, there's a 50% chance that you will get an adjusted value. Thus it is not unusual to get a series of stock SH3 values.

[noe]

Thus it is not unusual to get a series of stock SH3 values.

I see, so how could I change that to etc. 75%?? By editing "Randomised events.cfg"?

[JScones]

I see, so how could I change that to etc. 75%?? By editing "Randomised events.cfg"?
Open *each* "Randomised events*.cfg" file and look for the lines:

[0:data\Library\AI_Sensors.dat]
;Randomly adjusts active/passive listening device values to simulate the impact of thermal layers - by Hemisent
;Only MinHeight values are changed
ChooseFrom=10
RndMidPat=1

You'll see that underneath are 5 blocks of settings, labelled 0 to 4. The easiest way is to change the ChooseFrom value to 7 to set the chance to 71% (ie 5 "blocks of settings" divided by 7); 6 to set the chance to 83% (ie 5 divided by 6) or 8 to set the chance to 63% (ie 5 divided by 8).

Alternatively, you can create your own set of randomised values by:
1) copying the block:
4_x0470=-270
4_x05FC=-260
4_x0784=-275
4_x090C=-270
4_x0A94=-268
4_x0C20=-275
4_x0DAC=-265
4_x0F38=-263
4_x10C4=-265
4_x124C=-260
4_x142B=-257
4_x160A=-255
4_x17ED=-263
4_x19D0=-260
4_x1BB3=-255
4_x1D96=-253
2) pasting immediately below
3) changing each 4_ to 5_
4) changing the settings to whatever you want
5) repeating the above as many times as you like

So, adding one new set of values (ie total of 6 sets) and leaving the ChooseFrom value at ten will give you a 60% chance, adding two sets and leaving the ChooseFrom value at ten will give you a 70% chance and so on. You can also change the ChooseFrom value, so that, for example, by adding one extra set of values and changing ChooseFrom to 6, you will provide a 100% chance (6/6) of getting a different set of values each time.

The choice is yours. :up:

I hope this is clear.

[noe]

I hope this is clear.

Yes, thanks for Your full answer. :up:

[panthercules]

Oops - I'm well into my first patrol after upgrading to SH3 Commander 2.6, and everything seems to be going well so far - but I just realized I forgot to add back in the SH3 Commander skin pack that I had added in to my previous installation.

I'm downloading it now (since I'm not sure how old the one I used last time was, even if I could find it again), but I'm wondering whether this is something I can add in mid-patrol or whether I should wait till I get back to port. Also, I'm not sure exactly how this SH3 Commander skin pack relates to whatever is going on with GW and/or NYGM (I'm still using GW 1.0 now, but planning to upgrade to the latest GW or NYGM (not sure which I'll try next yet) probably before my next patrol) - is there any real dependency between those things so that I'm screwing something up or missing something big by not having the skin pack installed at the moment (like, does it affect whether certain ship types show up in the game or anything like that), or is just some additional variety so that I might be seeing a little more variety in the way some ships types look if/when I do run into them in the game?

I'm mostly picking off single tankers and merchants in the Caribbean with my Type IXB on this patrol, so I'm not seeing any big convoys lately where the variety would be real obvious anyway, but I was liking what I was seeing in my previous Atlantic convoy battles with my Type VIIB and the older versions of SH3 Commander I was using so I'd like to get this pack re-installed as soon as it makes sense to do so.

Thanks for this great program :up:

[JScones]

I'm downloading it now (since I'm not sure how old the one I used last time was, even if I could find it again), but I'm wondering whether this is something I can add in mid-patrol or whether I should wait till I get back to port.
As the skin pack consists solely of tga files, it shouldn't matter. However, the cautious side of me would wait until when next in port; I don't trust SH3 at all with mid-patrol saves!

Also, I'm not sure exactly how this SH3 Commander skin pack relates to whatever is going on with GW and/or NYGM (I'm still using GW 1.0 now, but planning to upgrade to the latest GW or NYGM (not sure which I'll try next yet) probably before my next patrol) - is there any real dependency between those things so that I'm screwing something up or missing something big by not having the skin pack installed at the moment (like, does it affect whether certain ship types show up in the game or anything like that), or is just some additional variety so that I might be seeing a little more variety in the way some ships types look if/when I do run into them in the game?
It just provides alternate ship skins (which vary according to career date) for certain already-installed ship types. It doesn't adjust ship availability, frequency etc.

[panthercules]

Awesome - thanks for the help and prompt response - your program and support are outstanding as always :rock:

[kapitanfred]

Just a quick one JScones,

In the readyme doc for GW is a paragraph referring to Compatibilities with SH3 Commander and recommends to "leave or set the 'Lost contact time' to 15 mins in order to maintain the integrity of the destroyer aggression modifications" and says to refer to the SH3 Commander Help file for further Instructions.

This I cannot find. Is there a setting as such in SH3 Cmdr? It doesn't show in 2.6.

[JScones]

In the readyme doc for GW is a paragraph referring to Compatibilities with SH3 Commander and recommends to "leave or set the 'Lost contact time' to 15 mins in order to maintain the integrity of the destroyer aggression modifications" and says to refer to the SH3 Commander Help file for further Instructions.

This I cannot find. Is there a setting as such in SH3 Cmdr? It doesn't show in 2.6.
1. Open "Randomised events.cfg", located under the "\SH3 Commander\Cfg" folder
2. Look for the lines:
;----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[0:data\Cfg\SIM.CFG]
AI Detection|Lost contact time=I|15|45|Y ;Randomises the time Escorts spend looking for you after losing contact, in minutes
3. EITHER a) delete the three lines or b) change the third line to:
AI Detection|Lost contact time=I|15|15|Y ;Randomises the time Escorts spend looking for you after losing contact, in minutes
4. Save and close
5. Repeat for EACH "Randomised events_19*.cfg" file

FWIW I play GW but haven't made the suggested change and I haven't noticed anything adverse.

[kapitanfred]

Thanks for the quick response JScones. In that case I'll leave it be.:up:

[NKVD-crazyivan]

HI JS

would still love to get your advice and stuff on SH3C ....................where can we find your support from now on? are you still going to post on this site if so where.....
you and all the mod devs do such a fantastic work hat of to you.....

[JScones]

would still love to get your advice and stuff on SH3C ....................where can we find your support from now on? are you still going to post on this site if so where.....
This thread is the only one that I am subscribed to for now, so post your q here and generally I'll respond within 12 hours (usually upon receipt of Subsim's "Reply to post" email). It's just that I don't go through the forums as much at the moment so will miss anything posted elsewhere.

Other alternatives are PM or email (after reading the SH3Cmdr FAQ and Help files of course). Or, depending on the q, you could post in the main Mods Workshop forum as I'm sure others will will be able to help.

[Dragon93]

What would i have to do to make all the ranks be in Russian?

[JScones]

What would i have to do to make all the ranks be in Russian?
Open "\SH3 Commander\Cfg\SH3 options.cfg" and overtype either the German or American rank labels with your Russian ones. Then make sure that you have selected the same language under SH3Cmdr's SH3 Options screen (Rank Translations option on the Text Settings screen). That's it.

If you weren't using SH3Cmdr, then you'd make the changes directly to SH3's **_menu.txt file.

[HEMISENT]

Jaesen
For some reason with Commander 2.6 my days in base always remains at 1
regardless of what I set it for. Just completed a mission ending Sept 1 and start of next mission is Sept 2 yet days in base says 31. I'm just starting Wolves At War and this sure would make life easier. I've tried this on a number of different campaign test missions - no change/mission starts next day.

[JScones]

If your status is "In other base before..." then SH3Cmdr automatically sets the daysinbase value to 1 (although the actual value may increase if you have damage). This reflects the fact that the "other" base will either be a milk cow or friendly base (SH3 doesn't tell them apart).

SH3Cmdr should happily use your preferred setting if the status is "In home base before...", that is, if you are docked at your home base.

However, whilst SH3Cmdr determines your location automatically, you can manually toggle the status by clicking on it. So:

"In other base before..." = 1 day
"In home base before..." = your preferred SH3Cmdr setting (or whatever is already in the game if neither "number of days spent in base" option has been selected in SH3Cmdr)

Setting the status manually overrides SH3Cmdr's automatic determination.

[Dragon93]

Ok thanks, i'll try it today.

[Jmack]

what does sh3 comander do ?:o:-?:oops:

[JScones]

what does sh3 comander do ?:o:-?:oops:
http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/software/SH3Cmdr%20Help.html

[The Old Ferenczy]

Is there a special requirement in oreder to do so...i.e number of patrols completed?

I'm currently in base after the 1st patrol, have 1 promotion, and 17 badges (still unawarded, and the customary 1 qual also)

Any insight would be appreciated...with my luck...its prob something simple...:o

Thanks in advance.

[JScones]

Is there a special requirement in oreder to do so...i.e number of patrols completed?

I'm currently in base after the 1st patrol, have 1 promotion, and 17 badges (still unawarded, and the customary 1 qual also)

Any insight would be appreciated...with my luck...its prob something simple...:o

Thanks in advance.
Have you followed the instructions outlined in SH3Cmdr Help.html? That is:
To use the Crew Manager, select a crewman. Then:
- to award medals, badges or qualifications, click an image in the "Available Medals, Badges and Qualifications" panel and drag and drop into the corresponding "Medals", "Badges" or "Qualifications" panels;
- to promote or demote, choose a rank from the scroll list;
- to change the Commander's name, overtype the current name or press the 'RN' button to create a random Germanic name.

Click 'Apply' to save the changes. You can also build a crew list, saving the details of your crew and their accomplishments to an html file.
Note that SH3Cmdr does not follow the awarding limitations imposed by SH3. Whilst SH3 "allows" you a certain number of medals and one qualification per patrol, SH3Cmdr lets *you* decide what and how much you want to award.

Also note that you can still award SH3 alloted medals and quals from within SH3.

[jaxa]

Does SH3Commander 2.6 still simulates "milk cows" and increases range of uboats?
Is it necessary to remove the files that govern it - the two NSS_Uboat7c.sim files in the 19420401 and 19431201 folders from SH3Commander folder?

[JScones]

Does SH3Commander 2.6 still simulates "milk cows" and increases range of uboats?
Yes (albeit only VIIC range).

Is it necessary to remove the files that govern it - the two NSS_Uboat7c.sim files in the 19420401 and 19431201 folders from SH3Commander folder?
Yes.

[jaxa]

Thanks for reply.
Is it possible to include this option in "options" menu of SH3Commander? It would be simpler and faster to enable or disable this.

[mainexpress]

can someone tell me how i can have 2 installs of SH commander R2.6 so i can have one for my greywolves mod and one for the NYGM_2.0 mod,i know theres a link somewhere in the forums explaining how to do these installs.

[HEMISENT]

can someone tell me how i can have 2 installs of SH commander R2.6 so i can have one for my greywolves mod and one for the NYGM_2.0 mod,i know theres a link somewhere in the forums explaining how to do these installs.

Assuming you know how to make dual installs of SHIII
One is labeled SHIII-NYGM
One is labelled SHIII-GW
OK. What you need to do is create two *new* shortcuts to SH3Cmdr.exe, with the /l: switch added. For example,

"C:\<Path>\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\<InstallPath>\SilentHunterIII - NYGM"

"C:\<Path>\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\<InstallPath>\SilentHunterIII - GW"

This forces SH3Cmdr to use these locations rather than use the one stored in the Registry (ie the original installation path).

To create the shortcuts, just right click somewhere on your desktop, select New|Shortcut and enter the location as above, press Next then enter a suitable name, then press Finish. Done.

Then, all you need do is click the icon for the version of SH3 that you want to play. SH3Cmdr does the rest.

ONE warning though. If you run "SH3 - NYGM" then want to run "SH3 - GW" afterwards, you MUST first rollback SH3 - NYGM, otherwise, when you run SH3 - GW, you will cross pollenate it with NYGM files. For example:

ALWAYS
-Run SH3Cmdr NYGM shortcut
-Play game
-ROLLBACK SH3Cmdr NYGM
-Run SH3Cmdr GW shortcut
-Play game
-ROLLBACK SH3Cmdr GW(Bizarre things happen if you do not rollback)
NEVER
-Run SH3Cmdr NYGM shortcut
-Play game
-Run SH3Cmdr GW shortcut
-Play game

Alternatively, you can install (or copy) SH3Cmdr again to a different location. Then, you can point one shortcut to SH3Cmdr installation #1, and the other to SH3Cmdr installation #2. Then you will not have this rollback problem. For example:
"C:\<Path>\SH3 Commander Copy 1\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\<InstallPath>\SilentHunterIII - NYGM"
"C:\<Path>\SH3 Commander Copy 2\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C:\<InstallPath>\SilentHunterIII - GW"
C:\PROGRAM FILES\UBISOFT\SILENTHUNTERIII-GW

The problem with this approach though is that your SH3Cmdr.ini files will get out of sync with each other. But that's prolly less of a problem than your whole game getting out of sync!
But I'd only recommend this second approach if you think the first approach will cause problems for you.

[mainexpress]

thanks alot m8 this helps:up:

[GT182]

but I'm wondering whether this is something I can add in mid-patrol or whether I should wait till I get back to port.

No, do not try and install mods during mid patrol. You will lose your career. I've found that out the hard way 4 times already. Wait until you're "In Base" and do it then. Or if you haven't done much in your patrol, you can delete it back to the last "In Base" you have and install it.

I was lucky and saved the 4th career from a backup of SHIII, SHIII folder in My Documents, and the SHIII Commander folder. It's a smart thing to make a backup of them every once in awhile anyways. ;)

[Bezoomney]

Thanx Jaesen. Must've been quite some work!!

[VoodooPriest]

Can I ask a question about problems with SH3 Commander in here? Yes? Good, as I have one.

The problem is as follows:
Suddenly SH3-Comander won't load SH3 anymore. The reason is, that it can't write into the NSS_Uboat7c.cfg and ends the launch-prrocess with an according error-message. When I look into the file's properties it says "read only". I then uncheck this option and try to launch SH3 again and again the error occures because the "read only"-status has mysteriousely returned... I tried several combinations of unchecking and restarting/rebooting but nothing worked so far. As I said, the error suddenly appeared out of nowhere.

So, what can I do?

[panthercules]

Can I ask a question about problems with SH3 Commander in here? Yes? Good, as I have one.

The problem is as follows:
Suddenly SH3-Comander won't load SH3 anymore. The reason is, that it can't write into the NSS_Uboat7c.cfg and ends the launch-prrocess with an according error-message. When I look into the file's properties it says "read only". I then uncheck this option and try to launch SH3 again and again the error occures because the "read only"-status has mysteriousely returned... I tried several combinations of unchecking and restarting/rebooting but nothing worked so far. As I said, the error suddenly appeared out of nowhere.

So, what can I do?

Until someone with the real answer shows up, you may want to try this - be sure to do a "search" on your PC for that particular file name, and then make sure you change all instances of the file to uncheck "read only" - it may be that SH3 Commander is copying a different file than the one you changed from some backup location, overwriting the one you changed with one that's still "read only"

Just a thought - I'm not sure if SH3 Commander really does this, but I've had a very similar problem with some other program/application doing something like this, so it may be worth a try.

Good luck!

[JScones]

Can I ask a question about problems with SH3 Commander in here? Yes? Good, as I have one.

The problem is as follows:
Suddenly SH3-Comander won't load SH3 anymore. The reason is, that it can't write into the NSS_Uboat7c.cfg and ends the launch-prrocess with an according error-message. When I look into the file's properties it says "read only". I then uncheck this option and try to launch SH3 again and again the error occures because the "read only"-status has mysteriousely returned... I tried several combinations of unchecking and restarting/rebooting but nothing worked so far. As I said, the error suddenly appeared out of nowhere.

So, what can I do?
Are you rolling back SH3Cmdr before removing the r/o attrib? If not, then when SH3Cmdr next rolls back, it will simply return the backed up copy of the file in question, complete with r/o attrib. That's most likely your problem.

Unfortunately, some mods (I don't know which ones) include r/o files. Silly me never foresaw this possibility (perhaps so obvious in hindsight) as stock SH3 files are not r/o and I didn't imagine that modders would add it!

There are also two other possibilities which you may like to pursue:
1. some a/v software "inoculates" files by adding the r/o attrib. Maybe yours is one of them?
2. you must be logged in as a full administrator (this is generally the case, but if you have an account for you and one for anyone else in your house, this may not be the case).

[VoodooPriest]

Are you rolling back SH3Cmdr before removing the r/o attrib? If not, then when SH3Cmdr next rolls back, it will simply return the backed up copy of the file in question, complete with r/o attrib. That's most likely your problem.


Yes, that was exactly my problem. I just unchecked the r/o (so that's the abbreviation for it?) in SH3-Comm's !BACKUP-folder and everythings alright again. Just don't ask me, how the r/o-status got there in the first way. I installed my last mod almost a month ago and it always worked till yesterday.
However, it works again and I'm happy.
Thank you.

[JScones]

Are you rolling back SH3Cmdr before removing the r/o attrib? If not, then when SH3Cmdr next rolls back, it will simply return the backed up copy of the file in question, complete with r/o attrib. That's most likely your problem.


Yes, that was exactly my problem. I just unchecked the r/o (so that's the abbreviation for it?) in SH3-Comm's !BACKUP-folder and everythings alright again. Just don't ask me, how the r/o-status got there in the first way. I installed my last mod almost a month ago and it always worked till yesterday.
However, it works again and I'm happy.
Thank you.
Good. Still would have been better to rollback SH3Cmdr first though, but if everything is working fine now... ;)

[Vermin]

Just wanted to say a big thankyou for the mod!

:up:

[bogaty]

How do I enable the radio messages? I have my own mp3 files in the grammaphone folder in the SH3 game and I can hear those, but I cannot hear the date specific radio messages located in the SH3 Commander folder.

[The Munster]

Yes, that was exactly my problem. I just unchecked the r/o (so that's the abbreviation for it?) in SH3-Comm's !BACKUP-folder and everythings alright again. Just don't ask me, how the r/o-status got there in the first way. I installed my last mod almost a month ago and it always worked till yesterday.
However, it works again and I'm happy.
Thank you.[/quote]
Good. Still would have been better to rollback SH3Cmdr first though, but if everything is working fine now... ;)[/quote]

Hi, could you let me know where the r/o is in the !BACKUP-folder so I can uncheck it please ? Can't seem to find it.

[JScones]

No. Rollback first, then you won't have any files in the !BACKUP folder to worry about!

[NKVD-crazyivan]

Hi JScones,
With SH3C
when you select "correct u-boat avalibility dates" what base or flotila would give you the latest version of u-boats ie XX1 etc.

I know they are date related,im currently in late 1943 and have a 1XC/40 working out of Lorient.

Is there a better base than this to get better upgrade ?or does this flotila give me the whole range till the wars end.

if i unselect the u-boat avalibilty dates can i get the XX1 sooner or when its due hold on to it longer.......

thanks for your help.;)

[JScones]

Hi JScones,
With SH3C
when you select "correct u-boat avalibility dates" what base or flotila would give you the latest version of u-boats ie XX1 etc.

I know they are date related,im currently in late 1943 and have a 1XC/40 working out of Lorient.

Is there a better base than this to get better upgrade ?or does this flotila give me the whole range till the wars end.

if i unselect the u-boat avalibilty dates can i get the XX1 sooner or when its due hold on to it longer.......

thanks for your help.;)
There's an explanation plus a table in the readme. :yep:

[jaxa]

JScones, will SH3Commander 2.6 be compatible with GWX (GWX has more player bases to choose for instance)?
I's like to use both of them.

[JScones]

JScones, will SH3Commander 2.6 be compatible with GWX (GWX has more player bases to choose for instance)?
I's like to use both of them.
Yes. Fully compatible. :yep:

SH3Cmdr will automatically recognise the Flotilla and base changes.

[enaceo]

JScones, will SH3Commander 2.6 be compatible with GWX (GWX has more player bases to choose for instance)?
I's like to use both of them.
Yes. Fully compatible. :yep:

SH3Cmdr will automatically recognise the Flotilla and base changes.

What about NYGM 2.2?Will we need to wait for some compatibility files again:(?

[JScones]

I can't imagine why (remember, it's NYGM 2.2 that is being released, not SH3Cmdr). As the NYGM team has not approached me with any compatibility concerns, I'd expect NYGM 2.2 to come with whatever files are needed to maintain compatibility between the two products.

But this is a question you should direct to the NYGM team.

[enaceo]

Hmm,I guess you're right.Will also ask the NYGM team abou this.
Once again thanks for your work with SH3cmdr:)

[jaxa]

JScones, will SH3Commander 2.6 be compatible with GWX (GWX has more player bases to choose for instance)?
I's like to use both of them.
Yes. Fully compatible. :yep:

SH3Cmdr will automatically recognise the Flotilla and base changes.

Very good :up:

[donut]

I recall JScones ,posting a band-aid fix,for the glitch,when you use renown to install Sonar.When you come aboard for departure on patrol the CE. announces,sonar destroyed.sure enough click on crew screen/radio room,damage shows sonar destroyed new out of box?what goes????

JScones advise, "Download Cmdr R2.6. It includes the fix and is also the latest version with many other new features".

I am using, SH3Cmdr26.exe same download from www.users.on.net (http://www.users.on.net/) , Application 20.4 MB Get the latest: SH3 Commander (http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/software/products/SH3Cmdr26.exe) .Where do I get R2.6 ??? also,I do not desire the sabotage program included and have forgotten how to delete that feature option.:hmm:

[el Gato]

A question about the Seasonal Wave Height option:

I've read the Help and FAQ --- and, really, this option is fairly self-explanatory --- but I'm not really sure that it's working: I'm on a December patrol, out near the Shetlands, and there's no wind, no cloud cover, and the ocean is smooth as glass. What governs this option?

(Oh, I'm also running GW1.1 --- will this effect it somehow?)

[JScones]

A question about the Seasonal Wave Height option:

I've read the Help and FAQ --- and, really, this option is fairly self-explanatory --- but I'm not really sure that it's working: I'm on a December patrol, out near the Shetlands, and there's no wind, no cloud cover, and the ocean is smooth as glass. What governs this option?

(Oh, I'm also running GW1.1 --- will this effect it somehow?)
Wave height does not affect the weather, it's the other way around.

In stock SH3, 0 m/s wind speed gives a glassy surface whereas 15 m/s wind speed gives the greatest wave height of (from memory) just under 4m.

Problem is, 15 m/s is the max wind speed modelled in the game, regardless of season or theatre.

SH3Cmdr expands on a mod created by TimeTraveller, where greater wind speeds are simulated through a visual increase in wave height.

With the SH3Cmdr option selected, during the summer months, stock SH3 wave height values are used. However, in the winter months, wave heights are just under double the stock value, to simulate harsher winter conditions, or in other words, wind speeds of greater than 15 m/s.

When the weather next turns foul, you should notice the difference.

[JScones]

I recall JScones ,posting a band-aid fix,for the glitch,when you use renown to install Sonar.When you come aboard for departure on patrol the CE. announces,sonar destroyed.sure enough click on crew screen/radio room,damage shows sonar destroyed new out of box?what goes????

JScones advise, "Download Cmdr R2.6. It includes the fix and is also the latest version with many other new features".

I am using, SH3Cmdr26.exe same download from www.users.on.net (http://www.users.on.net/) , Application 20.4 MB Get the latest: SH3 Commander (http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/software/products/SH3Cmdr26.exe) .Where do I get R2.6 ??? also,I do not desire the sabotage program included and have forgotten how to delete that feature option.:hmm:
"Sonar Destroyed" is unrelated to the "Stbd Engine Destroyed" problem which was something that SH3Cmdr R2.5 uncovered, but subsequently repaired (pardon the pun) in R2.6.

If you search the forum you'll find more info on the Sonar Destroyed message. It's NOT related to SH3Cmdr.

Likewise, search the forum and you'll find a number of posts explaining in full detail how to remove the malfunction feature (NOTE: sabotage is NOT included by default in SH3Cmdr, players must manually enable the sabotage effects by following the instructions in the readme file). Here's just one of a few posts that should help you... http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=293158#post293158

[scrapser]

Just an FYI for anyone trying to find info on the events files.

I tried doing a search on the boards for "randomized" and got zero hits. Then I realized that even though this is the correct spelling of the word, I must do a search for "randomised" as that's how the files in SH3 Commander were labeled from the beginning and also how they are referenced.

scrapser

[scrapser]

I'm on my first patrol now that I've installed SH3 Commander 2.6 and the first thing I've noticed is the GW "Messages" have stopped completely and the weather is stuck at "perfect" (5 knots, clear sky, no fog, etc.). I was also sent to the same patrol grid as my last assignment. Not sure if this is a coincidence or not but something's fishy here. In all my campaigns and patrols, I have never enjoyed perfect weather from Wilhelmshaven to the AM grid via north of Scapa Flow...ever.

scrapser

[JScones]

I tried doing a search on the boards for "randomized" and got zero hits. Then I realized that even though this is the correct spelling of the word, I must do a search for "randomised" as that's how the files in SH3 Commander were labeled from the beginning and also how they are referenced.
I realise that "Randomized" might be the correct spelling in the USA, but... ;)

I'm on my first patrol now that I've installed SH3 Commander 2.6 and the first thing I've noticed is the GW "Messages" have stopped completely and the weather is stuck at "perfect" (5 knots, clear sky, no fog, etc.). I was also sent to the same patrol grid as my last assignment. Not sure if this is a coincidence or not but something's fishy here. In all my campaigns and patrols, I have never enjoyed perfect weather from Wilhelmshaven to the AM grid via north of Scapa Flow...ever.
Yes, mere coincidence.

a) SH3Cmdr doesn't interfere with game messages or their appearance;
b) SH3Cmdr doesn't interfere with the weather settings (it does run SH3Weather if it finds it, but that's as close to tinkering with the weather as it gets);
c) SH3Cmdr doesn't automatically determine or set patrol grids. Indeed, in this instance SH3 would have already chosen the patrol grid before you even ran SH3Cmdr! Actually, repeated patrol grids is not that uncommon. If your previous patrol ended in the same month as the current patrol ended, you *may* get a duplicate grid as SH3 obtains a grid destination relative to the month of the last finished patrol, as opposed to the month of the next patrol, which is what you'd kinda expect (thanks to Rubini for this find). And with any randomisation, repeats are possible.

[scrapser]

I tried doing a search on the boards for "randomized" and got zero hits. Then I realized that even though this is the correct spelling of the word, I must do a search for "randomised" as that's how the files in SH3 Commander were labeled from the beginning and also how they are referenced.
I realise that "Randomized" might be the correct spelling in the USA, but... ;)

I'm on my first patrol now that I've installed SH3 Commander 2.6 and the first thing I've noticed is the GW "Messages" have stopped completely and the weather is stuck at "perfect" (5 knots, clear sky, no fog, etc.). I was also sent to the same patrol grid as my last assignment. Not sure if this is a coincidence or not but something's fishy here. In all my campaigns and patrols, I have never enjoyed perfect weather from Wilhelmshaven to the AM grid via north of Scapa Flow...ever.
Yes, mere coincidence.

a) SH3Cmdr doesn't interfere with game messages or their appearance;
b) SH3Cmdr doesn't interfere with the weather settings (it does run SH3Weather if it finds it, but that's as close to tinkering with the weather as it gets);
c) SH3Cmdr doesn't automatically determine or change patrol grids. Indeed, in this instance SH3 would have already chosen the patrol grid before you even ran SH3Cmdr! Actually, repeated patrol grids is not that uncommon. If your previous patrol ended in the same month as the current patrol ended, you *may* get a duplicate grid as SH3 obtains a grid destination relative to the month of the last finished patrol, as opposed to the month of the next patrol, which is what you'd kinda expect (thanks to Rubini for this find). And with any randomisation, repeats are possible.

Thanks...that sets my mind at ease.

scrapser

[kapitanfred]

Greetings JScones, What is the possibility of implementing a field that enables the uboat to return or transit to a different port. I was basically thinking that when a Flotille moves to a different location, uboats could actually transit from one base to the new base or whilst on patrol then return to the new port.

[mauriga]

Hi all Kaleuns,
sorry 4 my bad English, but this is my 1st post over here, usually I post to a Italian

SHIII forum.

This is the matter:
I was in my 8th patrol in the middle of the summer in 1940 leading my VIIB Uboot.

The BdU assigned me to patrol the AN79 grid!?! Is this normal?
I usually don't discuss the order, but this order is like a suicide.

So... when I was in the proximity of the AN79 grid, I got a mine or a net or both of them

and I had one guy death and severe damage all over (both the periscope, the radio and the

sonar etc.).

I came back to willelmhaven and after a month I've started 4 a new patrol (grid DH79).

Several miles out of Spain coast I intercepted a convoy; I had 6 torpedos left, 2 of them

reached a medium tanker; 4 torpedoes missed, the tanker didn't sink.

Run out of torpedoes, I decided to resupply at the Bessel in Vigo.

After the resupply (restarting SHIII commander ver. 2.6) I got the follow message.

"lieutenant SR mau---- to report immediately to kiel for reassignement to training duties".
and "relinquish command of U21 to your exec".

Then SHIII commander informed me "if you are getting 'itchy feet' sitting behind a desk,

you can return to active duty and continue your career"

So... what do I have to do?
I accept to spend time (1 month? 2 months?) training myself again, I hope I won't lose my

grade and I agree to restart from Kiel with a IIA as well.

Pls suggest me the right way to come back in the opration area.

Best Wishes.

mau----

[kylania]

The difficulty in sinking the ships is indeed based on Grew Wolves or NYGM, both of those mods make things more difficult.

The "behind the desk" thing you got was the "Simulate a realistic career length" option, where after so many patrols you're sent to train new recruits or work a desk job. You can simply click on your Status and get back into active duty. Or leave the realistic career length option unchecked and patrol till you die. :)

If you pick "return to duty" you should keep your same boat and crew.

[stabiz]

I dont think this nifty little program gets enough praise. Well done! :up:

[JScones]

FYI, in the next week or so I intend releasing a very minor maintenance fix (R2.6.1). It will be nothing more than a tweaking of a few internal aspects, for example:

- Read-only attribute will automatically be removed on any file that SH3 Commander modifies, as opposed to the current error message and abort.
- Number of days spent in base can be set between 0 and 2075 (ie the length of the war in Europe), as opposed to the current 100 day upper limit (I have no idea where that came from!).
- Title bar will display the full path to the SH3 installation, to better support and recognise multiple SH3 installations.
- Double clicking the "Existing careers..." entry will no longer collapse the careers list. This is just a minor thing that annoyed me.
- Clicking the "Existing careers..." entry will display the full path to the SH3 save folder. There's a reason for this which will become apparent over the next week or so as well.
- "before patrol 1" careers will be excluded from the careers list, because these careers don't actually exist!
- Will check if SH3 is running and advise the user to exit SH3 first, to avoid I/O errors and other file conflicts.

One thing I want to stress is that this release will NOT break any current compatibilities with ANY mod. For current SH3Cmdr users it will just be a one file release which will overwrite the current SH3Cmdr.exe.

BTW, I have changed a bit of the code which *may* make SH3Cmdr backward compatible with Win98 and ME. If anyone running SH3 on Win98 or ME (with IE4 or greater installed) wants to test this latest SH3Cmdr, pls let me know.

[Uber Gruber]

I'm not one for complaining but I was using SH3 Commander the other day, and as soon as I ran it two Jehovah Witnesses knocked at my door and tried to sell me some books about a bloke called "god" or something. Can you release a fix for this as it took me an hour to get rid of them.

Thanks, Hans.

[NKVD-crazyivan]

Hi JS i noticed you have a add on skins for SH3 what are they............
and are they for Sh3cmder 2.6..or is it an older file

Sorry cant find any more info on them am using GW 1.1a and the peri scop fix...

thanks for your great work and time love it .......;)

[JScones]

Hi JS i noticed you have a add on skins for SH3 what are they............
and are they for Sh3cmder 2.6..or is it an older file
It's primarily an automated version of iambecomelife's early, mid and late ship skins. Add them to SH3Cmdr and the ship skins of certain ship types will change throughout the war.

My only concern is that they may overwrite any skins you already have installed, so whilst you'll get the benefit of "morphing" skins, you may lose the skins you already have in the game for the corresponding ship types. That I have no control over, nor can I offer advice.

Full inclusion list...
- MERCHANT VARIETY PACK by Iambecomelife
Early War Edition containing ~100 new skins (15 per ship type) and Mid-Late War Edition containing ~50 new skins

- AUXILLARY BRITISH CRUISER SKIN PACK by Type941 (5 new NAXC skins)
01. Gray hull, new repainted condition, funnel and superstructure,
02. Black hull, weathered condition, black funnel (HMS Jervis Bay), white superstructure
03. Black hull, yellow funnel with black lining, white superstructure
04. Black hull, rusty, very weathered, light tan funnel, slightly weathered white superstruture
05. Mountbatten Pink camouflage in late war variation. Darker hull, lighter superstructure and funnel
06. Default: (dark green hull with gray superstructure)
07. Default: (olive green hull with gray superstructure)
08. Default: (light green hull with dirty tan superstructure)

- PASSENGER LINERS SKIN PACK by Type941 (4 new NPPL_ skins)
11. All white hull/superstucture with tan funnel color (very common 1939 look)
12. Black hull with white lining on the upper part connecting with superstructure, yellow funnel w/ black lining
13. Gray hull, funnel and superstructure, looks best in the late stages of war when ships carried full armament
14. Lavender mauve grey hull with white lining joining with white superstructure/orange funnels. Paint scheme of Union Castle line
15. Default: White hull with blue lining, blue funnel with white cross
16. Default: Black hull with red funnel

- TRANSPORTS SKIN PACK by Type941 (7 new NPTR skins)
16. Black hull, yellow funnel w/ black lining, white superstruture, gray masts
17. White hull slightly weathered, yellow funnel w/ black bands & lining, white superstruture, tan masts
18. White hull weathered, light tan funnel, white superstruture, gray masts
19. White hull weathered, red funnel w/ black lining, white superstruture, gray masts
20. Lavender mauve grey hull and superstructures, orange funnel w/ black lining, white superstructure, tan masts. Paint scheme of Union Castle line
21. Black hull very weathered and rusty, light tan funnel, white superstruture, gray masts
22. Black hull weathered, black funnel, white superstruture, gray masts

- CAPITAL SHIP PAINT SCHEMES by Type941 with additional tweaks by Syxx_Killer (7 new skins in total)
1. Three schemes for the Bismarck (the sea trials scheme which Bismarck used until March 1941; the Operation Rheinubung scheme which was used from March until May 1941; and the final scheme which was used when the Bismarck sailed into the Atlantic)
2. Two 1941 schemes for the Prinz Eugen
3. Two schemes for the Tirpitz

[JScones]

FYI, in the next week or so I intend releasing a very minor maintenance fix (R2.6.1). It will be nothing more than a tweaking of a few internal aspects, for example:

- Read-only attribute will automatically be removed on any file that SH3 Commander modifies, as opposed to the current error message and abort.
- Number of days spent in base can be set between 0 and 2075 (ie the length of the war in Europe), as opposed to the current 100 day upper limit (I have no idea where that came from!).
- Title bar will display the full path to the SH3 installation, to better support and recognise multiple SH3 installations.
- Double clicking the "Existing careers..." entry will no longer collapse the careers list. This is just a minor thing that annoyed me.
- Clicking the "Existing careers..." entry will display the full path to the SH3 save folder. There's a reason for this which will become apparent over the next week or so as well.
- "before patrol 1" careers will be excluded from the careers list, because these careers don't actually exist!
- Will check if SH3 is running and advise the user to exit SH3 first, to avoid I/O errors and other file conflicts.

One thing I want to stress is that this release will NOT break any current compatibilities with ANY mod. For current SH3Cmdr users it will just be a one file release which will overwrite the current SH3Cmdr.exe.

BTW, I have changed a bit of the code which *may* make SH3Cmdr backward compatible with Win98 and ME. If anyone running SH3 on Win98 or ME (with IE4 or greater installed) wants to test this latest SH3Cmdr, pls let me know.

Re the above, I would like a few people to test the latest release. Whilst it's been well tested on more "mainstream" systems (ie Windows XP with IE6), I'd like to have peace of mind that it works on other systems and configurations. I am particularly after people running SH3/SH3Cmdr under any of the following environments:
-Windows ME, Windows 98 or Windows 2000 or
-Without Internet Explorer installed

All you'll need to do is replace your current SH3Cmdr.exe with the new one I'll send you, and if it opens OK, all is sweet.

Pls PM me and I'll email you the link. Please only PM if you are a confident SH3Cmdr user. :)

If I can get a few testers over the next day or so, and assuming that all works fine, R2.6.1 will be released in the next few days.

[Tuddley3]

I downloaded some Splashscreens for the Intro and Map loading screens, and am curious if they can be randomized. I saw this same kind of question where I downloaded these Splashscreens(here in the workshop somewhere), and have asked this question myself, and the answer was the same. They both said they think SH3 CMDR can do it, but I've read the Read Me, the FAQ , and this thread, and can't find anything about Splashscreen Randomization.:doh:

I know I can use JSGME, but don't want to have to open JSGME up everytime before I start SH3.

Also JScones , I've left you a PM at UBI about JSGME installation problems(not me, other UBI users). I was hoping you could get VikingGrandad to post a JSGME sticky for you.

Thanks in advanced :up:

Disregard the Intro question, bigboywooly found an old thread from July that talked about the 6 Random folders. But the JSGME still needs to be answered whenever you get time to hop over to UBI. Thanks again.

[JScones]

Also JScones , I've left you a PM at UBI about JSGME installation problems(not me, other UBI users). I was hoping you could get VikingGrandad to post a JSGME sticky for you.
There already is one... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/857101043/m/3031058373

Looks like it has been unstickied for some reason. :hmm:

[JScones]

Release 2.6.1 of SH3 Commander is now available!

- Read-only attribute now automatically removed from any file that SH3 Commander modifies
- Number of days spent in base can now be between 0 and 2075 (ie the length of the war in Europe)
- Title bar now displays the full path to the SH3 installation (for easier recognition)
- Double clicking the "Existing careers..." entry no longer collapses the careers list
- Now supports save folder names other than the default "SH3" (will become apparent later)
- Clicking the "Existing careers..." entry now displays the full path to the SH3 save folder (for easier recognition)
- Now excludes "before patrol 1" careers from the careers list (such careers don't actually exist)
- Now checks if SH3 is running and advises user to exit SH3 first

As you can see, this is a maintenance release, containing a number of minor internal changes.

DOWNLOAD INSTRUCTIONS
CURRENT SH3CMDR R2.6 USERS
1. Either use SH3 Commander's "Check for updates" feature to download the update or download direct from here (http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/software/products/SH3Cmdr261.zip).
2. Open SH3 Commander and press the "Rollback SH3" button.
3. Exit SH3 Commander.
4. Unzip the contents of SH3Cmdr261.zip into your SH3 Commander folder, overwriting the current files. As only one core SH3 Commander file is updated, you do NOT need to reinstall any other files. Just simply unzip and play!

NEW SH3CMDR USERS
1. Download the full version from here (http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/software/products/SH3Cmdr261.exe) and follow the installation instructions.

As always, please post your questions/feedback/problems to this thread after reading the readme (http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/software/SH3Cmdr%20Help.html) and FAQ (http://www.users.on.net/~jscones/software/SH3Cmdr%20FAQ.html) (both files are installed into your SH3 Commander folder).

[mountainmanUK]

Many thanks JScones!:D

I hope you won't mind if I stick your two new 2.6.1 files on Rapidshare? Some of the guys over at Wolves at War asked, when I posted a link to this thread on the Forum there, so I uploaded them!
I particularly like the full path showing...makes it easier to check which Persona/SuperMod you are running!

Great work as usual.
Cheers

[Tuddley3]

Also JScones , I've left you a PM at UBI about JSGME installation problems(not me, other UBI users). I was hoping you could get VikingGrandad to post a JSGME sticky for you. There already is one... http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/857101043/m/3031058373

Looks like it has been unstickied for some reason. :hmm:

No, it hasn't been unstickied, I found it in
Kaleun1961's guide to installing mods (includes step-by-step screenshots) (http://forums.ubi.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/857101043/m/3031058373) as a subdirectory to New to SH3? Patches, mods, tools, guides, online teams, etc. (http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/857101043/m/7261080164)
I wish I could have found it last week while getting carpal tunnel trying to get 2 people hooked up with JSGME. I appreciate your help, and I also appreciate how you answer all questions from everyone.

One more question for you( I hope I don't sound greedy), but there are some recent problems with people not getting ship names on the patrol log. I have them, but some new SH3 Cmdr user are having trouble. There is also a new thread simply titled Ship Names over at UBI.

Thanks again JScones, keep up the good work. BTW, I put the Intro screens in the Date folder, instead of Random, works just fine.:up:

[JScones]

One more question for you( I hope I don't sound greedy), but there are some recent problems with people not getting ship names on the patrol log. I have them, but some new SH3 Cmdr user are having trouble. There is also a new thread simply titled Ship Names over at UBI.
I assume that the affected players read the SH3Cmdr FAQ, particularly Q: How do I get real ship names in my Patrol Logs? [EDIT: I've now read the "Ship Names?" thread to which you refer. Proves I should never assume...]

The other reason why ship names FOR SOME SHIPS won't show up in the log is if the ship class hasn't been added to SH3Cmdr's "Ship names.cfg" file. Essentially, this means ANY new ship created since about January this year (apart from two I added for NYGM in R2.6).

I've recently spoken to BBW and expect that this will be corrected somewhat in GWX - it should include an up-to-date version of the file including entries for all the new ships that GWX has added. Still not 100% exhaustive, but still much better than now.

[Enfilade]

I'm about to upgrade from 2.5 to 2.6 and have uninstalled the previous version. I do wish to keep a current WaW career running and am aware that I should retain the SH3 Commander .ini file which still remains after the uninstall. However, after uninstalling 2.5, I notice that there are several other sub-folders also remaining. They are 'ibackup' (empty), 'Date' (232 mb), 'Nightclub' (25kb I think) and 'Personnel Files'. Should I manually delete these folders, only leaving the 'ini file or will this cause problems with my current career? Thanks.

[JScones]

I'm about to upgrade from 2.5 to 2.6 and have uninstalled the previous version. I do wish to keep a current WaW career running and am aware that I should retain the SH3 Commander .ini file which still remains after the uninstall. However, after uninstalling 2.5, I notice that there are several other sub-folders also remaining. They are 'ibackup' (empty), 'Date' (232 mb), 'Nightclub' (25kb I think) and 'Personnel Files'. Should I manually delete these folders, only leaving the 'ini file or will this cause problems with my current career? Thanks.
Did you install the Combined Ship Pack at some stage? Its files will be left behind by the SH3Cmdr uninstaller.

Anyway, essentially delete everything but "<path>\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.ini".

[Immacolata]

I could use a bit of help figuring out why SC 2.6 and NYGM 2.2 wont work on my setup. I installed SC to a separate dir.

I deleted the random cfg files from sC3 and installed the optional sh3 commander files from NYGM 2.2. But I cannot load any game or start a career. The game simply stalls on the load screen with the red bar about 1/3 full. I have to alt-ctrl-del the process to get out of that. If I roll back SH3C, I can play NYGM again.

[Enfilade]

[quote=JSconesDid you install the Combined Ship Pack at some stage? Its files will be left behind by the SH3Cmdr uninstaller.

Anyway, essentially delete everything but "<path>\SH3 Commander\SH3Cmdr.ini".[/quote]

I did indeed install the CSP but I don't see any of its files remaining. In any case, thanks, I will delete everything from the folder except the .ini file. Then I will install 2.6 and reinstall the Combined Ship Pack. After that, it's installing the newly released NYGM 2.2 which includes three files to make it compatible with 2.6... fingers crossed that all goes smoothly.

[Immacolata]

Release 2.6 of SH3 Commander is now available!

Oi! This link is for the old version 2.6. Fix'er upper ta :yep:

[danlisa]

I have multiple installs (GW + NYGM) both have correct shortcuts for JSGME + SH3C (using the l: switch) however each time I load the respective SH3C I am asked for the location of the sh3.exe.

This setup works, it's just a small grievance each time to have to point to the correct install. Is it possible that the path name is too long??:hmm: Is there a solution?

Note - due to the recommended change to cfg files for NYGM, I infact have two installs of SH3C and use MULTISH3 to ensure no crossover.

Can anyone help?

[JScones]

You're only asked for the path if SH3Cmdr cannot find sh3.exe in the path that you've specified, so I would suggest that your /l links are incorrect. Please post them so I can have a look.

[JScones]

Release 2.6 of SH3 Commander is now available!

Oi! This link is for the old version 2.6. Fix'er upper ta :yep:
Visit my web page linked in my sig.

BTW mods, I can't figure out how to update the title of this thread - I want to change it to "SH3 Commander R2.6.1 NOW AVAILABLE" but it won't let me. :(

[danlisa]

@Jscones

Target
"C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander - GW\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C\Program Files\Ubisoft\Silent HunterIII - GW"

Start in
"C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander - GW"

I do hope it's not a really stupid error on my part:oops:

[kylania]

@Jscones

Target
"C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander - GW\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C\Program Files\Ubisoft\Silent HunterIII - GW"

Start in
"C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander - GW"

I do hope it's not a really stupid error on my part:oops:

With the "Silent HunterIII - GW" part above, did you manually add the space in "Silent HunterIII" or did you just add " - GW" to your install folder. The default game install is "silenthunteriii" with no spaces.

[danlisa]

Well spotted Kylania, that was my mistake however, I still does not work.

The path is now .....\SilentHunterIII - GW

I have just noticed that the folder is called SilentHunterIII -GW but in the properties box for SH3C shortcut you can only type SilentHunterlll - GW.

Possible Cause?:hmm:

[danlisa]

@Jscones

Target
"C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander - GW\SH3Cmdr.exe" /l:"C\Program Files\Ubisoft\Silent HunterIII - GW"

Start in
"C:\Program Files\SH3 Commander - GW"

I do hope it's not a really stupid error on my part:oops:
Please disregard, I've found the problem
..../l:"C:\Program Files.....

What a Noobish mistake:damn: Colons = more trouble than they're worth!

[Buckwarrens]

Thanks for this outstanding addition:up:

[Laffertytig]

im gettin a windows error each time i close or alt tab out of SH3 along with some nasty CTD's. im tryin to narrow down what is causing this as ive had nothing but probs with my pc over the last 2 weeks.

my SH3 config is

fresh install SH3
patch 1.4
jsg mod installer
nygm mod + sub commander files
SH3 weather mod
sub commander 2.61
sub commader skins pack

ive also got my own sound file which is modded and normally add this in last.
is this the correct order of doing things and should i roll back before i add in my sound file?
the roll back thingy is a bit confusing

thanx in advance

[JScones]

im gettin a windows error each time i close or alt tab out of SH3 along with some nasty CTD's. im tryin to narrow down what is causing this as ive had nothing but probs with my pc over the last 2 weeks.

my SH3 config is

fresh install SH3
patch 1.4
jsg mod installer
nygm mod + sub commander files
SH3 weather mod
sub commander 2.61
sub commader skins pack

ive also got my own sound file which is modded and normally add this in last.
is this the correct order of doing things and should i roll back before i add in my sound file?
the roll back thingy is a bit confusing

thanx in advance
Well, you need to have SH3Cmdr installed *before* you install the NYGM SH3Cmdr files, otherwise, where are you installing them to?

Your sound file may also be contributing. Try without it.

The "roll back thingy" need not be confusing - just remember to roll back SH3Cmdr PRIOR TO MAKING ANY changes to your SH3 installation - this includes adding or removing ANY mods or even SH3 itself. In other words, if you plan on altering the content of the SH3 folder in any way (either manually or via JSGME), roll back first!

Not rolling back SH3Cmdr is the biggest contributor to game instability and CTDs.

[Tuddley3]

JScones, I just tried to launch SH3 Cmdr, and I got an error saying "Invalid argument to date encode". When I click on Close, SH3 Cmdr opens up, but my potrait is gone and so is all my other info. I clicked on "Click For Available Actions" and I get same error message.

Should I launch SH3 without SH3 Cmdr, do a patrol, then try again. I just started a new patrol(28th), saved game, used SH3 Gen, reloaded, saved again at patrol grid, moved on and I had a CTD with the error report thingy that I can Send Report or Don't Send. Of course I don't send unless it is a Stop Error. When I tried to restart , I got this Invalid Cmdr error.

BTW, just for kicks, I clicked on Launch SH3, and I got a new error saying ( " is not a valid integer value.) Then when I close the error, SH3 Cmdr starts to launch SH3, but when messages at the bottom get to Applying selected SH3 options, it just sits there.

What is going on ? Has this ever been reported before ?

Thanks
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
EDIT : I just answered my own question, I pulled up to the Bessel, resupplied(this is launching SH3 without Cmdr) , then exited game. When I opened Cmdr, everything was back to normal.

That was a strange little mishap :doh:
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

[fredbass]

I always play the vanilla game a bit b4 I add mods as a check and I always read the readme and installation instructions carefully b4 adding anything.

[Soviet_Sharpshooter]

I just downloaded the latest SH Commander 2.6, this is the second mod ive ever downloaded *apart from Grey Wolves* and i must say im VERY impressed, there was some slow down when i first started playing, but apart from that it was GREAT :rock: i love the little additions, and ecspecially being able to easily change how clear the water is. :sunny:

GREAT MOD

[Laffertytig]

ive posted this in another thread but im told its sub commader related. on my current patrol in my VIIC boat im making 11 knots submerged. ive re-installed SC to no avail. any ideas how i can fix this?

[Soviet_Sharpshooter]

ive posted this in another thread but im told its sub commader related. on my current patrol in my VIIC boat im making 11 knots submerged. ive re-installed SC to no avail. any ideas how i can fix this?


Ahead standard :up:

[Laffertytig]

this would then affect how long my battery would last right? i like game to be realistic. any ideas jscones?

[JScones]

Yes, Battery range decreased between 75% & 20% simulating worn out batteries, malfunctioning charging system or e-motors drawing excessive power is modelled.

[Laffertytig]

ok now im confused. so your sayin that my 11 knot submerged uboat is a sub commander random feature?

[JScones]

ok now im confused. so your sayin that my 11 knot submerged uboat is a sub commander random feature?
Ummm, no, malfunctions tend to cripple equipment, not supercharge it. :hmm:

A quick check of the malfunction files shows decreased speed effects modelled only.

[Reich]

Help! I recently got a new 64 Bit system and SHIII will not run at all, even to install! Can anyone in here offer ANY suggestions as to what I should do next. As I understand it SHIII has a known problem running under Win. XP Home under 64 bit. I am totally out of options here...HELP!!:damn:

[Church SUBSIM]

Question regarding the Map that SubCommander 2.6.1 uses when selecting grid options for your next patrol. Where is the map located and is it possible to change that image? I have a Grid map from ingame that I would like to use.

Thanks!

BTW: Fantastic utility - could not play without it.

[JScones]

Question regarding the Map that SubCommander 2.6.1 uses when selecting grid options for your next patrol. Where is the map located and is it possible to change that image? I have a Grid map from ingame that I would like to use.
SH3Cmdr Help.html "List of features" reveals all. :)

[Church SUBSIM]

<blush>
Ability to view the SH3 Grid Map
Uses SH3_MAP.jpg located in your Silent Hunter III documentation folder. You can replace this file with any map of your choice - just use the same file name;
</blush>

By god, it sure does tell all :)

Thanks!

[kylania]

<blush>
Ability to view the SH3 Grid Map
Uses SH3_MAP.jpg located in your Silent Hunter III documentation folder. You can replace this file with any map of your choice - just use the same file name;
</blush>

By god, it sure does tell all :)

Thanks!

Can you share the map you have Church? I'm always looking for a new grid map. :)

Thanks!

[THE_MASK]

Is it possible to have the sh3 folder load into commander instead of my documents folder and then commander delete all but the last save when i roll back commander . I want to play DiD . No will power unfortunately .