Gun Turrets on Battleships

[andy_311]

Am just wondering after make a single mission with battleships fighting it out.
Can the main turrets and secondary guns on BB's be destroyed or crippled? all I've seen so far(single mission)bbs fight it out hits on turrets etc and they don't even leave a scratch surely a couple of hit's from a 14in gun onto anouther 14in gun should put it out of action?

[CCIP]

Have never seen it. I've only seen turrets get blown and 'sink' into the ship when the whole ship goes 'kaboom', but never as a result of damage in battle with other ships.

On the other hand, why would you expect something so heavy and well-armored to blow off?

[Gammel]

On the other hand, why would you expect something so heavy and well-armored to blow off?

http://www.undermars.com/images/mars0256.jpg
:yep:
(Knocked out M1 tank...)

[CCIP]

Well, firstly, there's a pretty big difference.

The reason it would blow off, both on a tank on and on a ship, is probably the magazine exploding. And a magazine on a battleship exploding looks like this:

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/7332/pic180uk.jpg
:doh:

I agree though, it would be nice if the turrets went up in the air if the magazines blew.

Otherwise, it's impossible to blow off a turret with a hit. The thing is absolutely massive and is probably the most armored part of a well-armored ship.

[Gammel]

:huh::doh::huh:

indeed that is a little different.
Do you know what ship is blown to hell there?

So the question would be...

how to make all stuff to blow off :D

For sh3 i guess it could be easy made do changes of the zones.cfg file,
i remember a damage model mod (german official forum) where it was even possible loosing stuff from your sub during battle.
Andy, did you already tried the "Hollywood mods"? Maybe they´ll fit your needs

[joea]

That would be the HMS Barham, she blew up real good. :huh:

[Gammel]

no much need for lifeboats...


862 KIA :-?

[Vikinger]

Some intressting reading from the sinking of HMS Barham.

http://www.hmsbarham.com/accounts/geoffreyjones.php

http://www.hmsbarham.com/accounts/unknown3.php

Thos 2 links are from Real witness and about the Uboat U-331 that was involved in the sinking.

Copy and past an interview whit the commander of U-331.


On Jan 19, 1998, I interviewed Kptlt. Von Tiesenhausen by telephone, with the help of his wife. He has very clear memories of the incident, however his hearing does not allow him to speak on the telephone.
On November 25 Kptlt. Von Tiesenhausen, commanding the U-331 off the border of Egypt and Libya in the eastern Mediterranean, spotted a procession of three British battleships flanked by eight destroyers. Displaying consummate nerve, Tiesenhausen eased his boat at periscope depth (less than 75 feet) between two destroyers and, from 1,200 yards, fired four torpedoes at the middle battleship in the line. He had no idea which ship it was that he had sunk, by fate or luck, it was the Barham. He was so busy trying to escape, he only heard the explosion.
As usual, the submarine's bow shot upward after the weight was released. Tiesenhausen could not get it down fast enough, and the conning tower erupted from the water barely 150 yards in front of the third battleship in line, the Valiant, whose captain immediately altered course in order to ram.
The U-boat's engineers moved quickly to get their boat under again as the huge ship turned in a wide are and bore down on them. Agonizing seconds passed. Then, at the last possible moment, the U-boat slid beneath the waves, and the battleship passed harmlessly overhead.
Meanwhile, a fourth explosion, probably the magazine going up, disintegrated the Barham, killing 862 men.
Aboard the U-331, something odd was happening to the depth gauge. As the boat continued its crash dive, the needle indicating depth inexplicably slowed, then stopped at 250 feet. The crew sensed that the boat was still diving, but the gauge said not. It was a dangerous situation, because the boat's maximum safe depth was judged to be 330 feet. Tiesenhausen asked to have a second, forward depth gauge read. The report appalled the entire crew: They had reached the unprecedented depth of 820 feet. As they frantically halted the dive and began to ascend again, the hull, which should have been crushed at that depth, did not so much as spring a leak. The U-boat had escaped from the enemy above and the lethal pressure below. "In such moments, you do not speak," wrote Tiesenhausen many years later. "You are glad to have been lucky and to be still alive."

[Myxale]

That would be the HMS Barham, she blew up real good. :huh:

Good God!:-?

[CCIP]

Someone posted a video of her before... I'll re-post it in a second.

[bigboywooly]

Some story :o

[CCIP]

http://rapidshare.de/files/14064511/HmsBarhamExplodesAfterTorpedoStrike55359KB.avi.htm l

[andy_311]

Have never seen it. I've only seen turrets get blown and 'sink' into the ship when the whole ship goes 'kaboom', but never as a result of damage in battle with other ships.

On the other hand, why would you expect something so heavy and well-armored to blow off?

I made a single mission with the IOWA bb vs 3 Tipitz class bb's and a heavy cruiser Scharnhorst all german bb's made muliple hits on the main turrets on the iowa and the 5in guns but she kept fireing (all ships had a crew rating of 4) not a scratch on the guns but damage to the hull was clearly visible in the end she took out all german warships out.

[CCIP]

That's probably because of the damage modelling. Since it's an add-on unit, it's likely that its damage model is incomplete/not balanced yet.