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stormimon
06-18-06, 02:51 AM
Everything is in the title. When I launch a patrol or a single mission, on the loading screen the progress bar stop and the nothing, I can just wait before killing the process (taking 99% of processor).

Before NYGM TW 2.0 I have never encountered this problem (RuB, IUB, GW). I have done a fresh install before installing NYGM TW 2.0. Without this mod all is fine, with it, it hangs all the time while loading.


Any idea ?

Der Teddy Bar
06-18-06, 03:00 AM
Everything is in the title. When I launch a patrol or a single mission, on the loading screen the progress bar stop and the nothing, I can just wait before killing the process (taking 99% of processor).

Before NYGM TW 2.0 I have never encountered this problem (RuB, IUB, GW). I have done a fresh install before installing NYGM TW 2.0. Without this mod all is fine, with it, it hangs all the time while loading.


Any idea ?
What are your system specs? Where does the bar stop?

The larger campaign files can cause significant delays and as it does not crash, may I ask that you leave it for say 5 minutes or longer?

Also, please download the NYGM TW Visual Update update here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=94286

stormimon
06-18-06, 03:05 AM
I have the update (I can see the NYGM TW v2.01 on the screen).
For the specs :

Windows XP SP2, Athlon 64 3500+, 2x512 DDR Dual Channel.

On the patrol loading screen, it hang almost at the middle of the progress bar (maybe a little after). I will wait few minutes after it hangs for test.

stormimon
06-18-06, 03:19 AM
After 10mn of waiting, nothing happen, no hard disk activity, the game hangs and I don't understand why.

Stiebler
06-18-06, 04:09 AM
This is a puzzling problem.

There is nothing wrong with your computer specification.
You evidently know how to load mods into your computer because of previous successes with the likes of RUb, and because you are seeing the '2.01' version at the end of first stage loading with NYGM TW.

It looks like either a file corruption, or perhaps a mis-loading of the 2.01 extra files. If the process freezes half way through second stage loading, then it has barely (if at all) reached the giant campaign files.

Can you say how you are adding the mod please (eg with JSGME or by simply copying files on top of existing files)? If you're using JSGME, try un-installing the 2.01 add-on, and retesting.

There is, of course, the real possibility that one of your downloaded mod files became corrupted in some way. You could try reloading these (but leave this option to last if you have a dial-up connection!), and reinstalling them.

If that fails, I can only suggest attempting a complete re-install of SH3. This I've found (from painful experience during modding work) is actually often faster and certainly more reliable than attempting to fix things. (Even though you say that you have just done a new install.) However, before taking this drastic course, you had better wait to hear what Der Teddy Bar says.

Stiebler.

stormimon
06-18-06, 04:27 AM
I'm using JSGME. I'll try to redownload NYGM TW 2.0, I can do that easily :)

stormimon
06-18-06, 05:21 AM
The problem is already present. I have reinstall SH3, patch to 1.4b.

For the first run, I have tried without any mod, all is ok.
For the second, I have tried with NYGM TW v2.0, it hangs.
Then I have tried with NYGM TW v2.01, it hangs too, but a little after.
Finally, I have tried to use the Harbor Traffic addin and it hangs again, but a little after where v2.01 was hanging.

Seems I won't use NYGM for a moment. Is there someting I can do to find the file SH3 can't load ?

Stiebler
06-18-06, 06:32 AM
I forgot to ask if you're using SH3Commander. If so, be sure to roll it back before doing anything else. (Although after two reinstalls, it will probably be as confused as I am - it might be wiser to uninstall it, then reinstall it anew). Also uninstall everything that you can with JSGME.

Now try removing your SH3 folder from MyDocuments, then reinstall NYGM TW 2.0 again (only). Test again.

There's no need to delete the SH3 folder in MyDocuments. Just rename the folder to something unrecognisable (I always use "XXXSH3XXX"). Re-running SH3/NYGM will create a new SH3 folder in MyDocuments.

If this works, all is well. If it doesn't, delete the new folder SH3 and rename the XXXSH3XXX folder back to SH3.

If that doesn't work, I am truly baffled. Over to Teddy Bar or Observer (both probably asleep at this time).

As a last desperate measure, you could try rolling-back SH3Commander, roll back everything in JSGME, uninstall SH3 itself with its un-install command, delete (rename) the SH3 folder from MyDocuments, delete the entire tree starting from SilentHunter\Data... (that is, click on the SilentHunteriii folder in Windows Explorer in folder 'program files\ubisoft', then press the delete key). If you do this BE SURE TO BACK UP first anything in the deleted folder(s) that you might want later. Then un-install SH3Commander itself. Finally, re-install everything, starting with SH3 and patch 1.4b. Then JSGME and SH3Commander (if used). Then NYGM 2.0. Check game operation at this point without using SH3Commander (yet).

Stiebler.

stormimon
06-18-06, 06:48 AM
I use SH3 commander but I have done the rollback each time. In the end, I have also tried everything without SH3 commander with no result.

U56
06-18-06, 08:06 AM
Well I am glad I am not the only one then with this problem. The game hangs when the bar is about 50% loaded. My specs are 3.2gig processor, 1gig ram, ATI Radeon X800 graphics card. I have tried the first posters troubleshooting, ie reinstalling, deleting SH3 folder in docs, rollback of SH3 Commander, all to no avail. I have managed to get the game working in single scenario mode starting without SH3 Commander, but no luck with campaign. The only mods I have at present are NYGM2 plus 2.01 update and I see the 2.01 on the screen. Again, with the hung game I have waited up to 10 mins before shutting down.

Regards.

lurker_hlb3
06-18-06, 08:38 AM
A question? If your using SH3 Cmdr 2.5, are you installing the SH3 files that are in the Doc’s directory that comes with TW2.0 ??? If not, when SH3 Cmdr launches the AI_Sensor.dat and which every sub your using .zon file will be corrupted. When SH3 starts it won’t be able to finish the load sequence and and goes into an infinite loop.

stormimon
06-18-06, 08:49 AM
Without SH3 commander it hangs again and again. But with SH3 commander, now that I have put the files you were talking about, all is fine.

Thanks a lot :D

lurker_hlb3
06-18-06, 09:38 AM
Would recommend that you do a "roll back" on SH3 Cmd then reinstall AI_Sensor.data and all the .zon files from the Submarine directory that comes with TW2.0. That should correct your problem