BASIC INFO for NON PLAYER SUBS IN DW

[Palindromeria]

Just thought a few of you might like to have this handy.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Basic NOTES for NONPLAYABLE SUBS in Dangerous Waters.
Compiled by Palindromeria@aol.com

all info is from the in game usni reference - some info is simply not in the game ref and i dont feel like pulling out janes or subs of the world by motorbooks.com right now. :)

speed,tons,and depth are usually all max submerged
tube /wep loadout/ wep info for the "other" nations weps.

**NOTE** - look for **NOTES** ;0

hope it helps,
dave

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Argentina- TR-1700 SS -25kts / 300 m / 2350 tons
6 bow tubes / 22 sst4-mod1 torps (psv only 34kts max / 6nm max **primarily asuw)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Australia - COLLINS SS - 21 kts / maxdepth unk/ 3350 tons
6 fwd tubes - 23 total harpoons asuw(70mi rng) / mk 48 adcap
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Brazil - TYPE 209/1400 mod 3 SS -
21.5kts ; "diving depth" 250m ;1590 tons
8 bow tubes - 16 tigerfish mk 24mod1 (maxspd 35 kts 16/22nm range)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
China -
2 KILO (EK) ss hulls / 2 IMPROVED KILO (EK) SS hull /
**NOTE** 1 KLUB EQUIPPED IMPROVED KILO SS (#368)

HAN SSN - 25kts - 300m - 4500-5500 tons
6 fwd tubes - YINJ JI/c801 asuw missiles 42 mi rng ;
YU3 asw torp 4 mi rng 23 kts act/psv 1800 maxdpth ;
YU4 asuw torps 5.4 nm rng 35 kts act/psv 1200 mxdpth ;
Mines

SONG SS - 22 kts maxdepth unk - 2250 tons
6 tubes - loadout - SEE HAN

MING SS - 18kts / maxdepth unk - 2113 tons
6 fwd + 2aft tubes 16 unk torps OR 28 mines

XIA SSBN - 22kts /300m maxdepth /7000 tons
6 fwd tubes 12 Ju Lang cssn3 missiles (not listed in usni ref ?? )
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
France - AMETHYSTE SSN ; 23.5 - 26.5 kts / maxdpth > 300m / 2680 tons
4 fwd tubes - 32 fg29 mines OR
total 14 reloads -
f17mod2 dual purpose torp (18 km / 40kts )
Exocet SM 39 missile (50mi)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Germany - Type 206 SS - 520 tons / 17 kts / maxdepth unk
6 fwd torps - DM2a3(not listed) or DM2a4 asw/asuw ( 35 kts 20km )
OR ? triton missiles(not listed) OR 24 mines?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
India -
***NOTE *** 10 kilo hull #'s in all
*5 SS KILOS(EKM)
*4 KLUB EQUIPPED KILO SS(EKM) (s 57,58,59,60)

*all indian kilos carry the EKM designation and are purported to be *slightly quieter than russian and chinese counterparts.

*1 KLUB EQUIPPED IMPROVED KILO SS EKM (s 65 )
*purported to be even quieter in game than other INDIAN kilos.

FOXTROT SS - 18 kts max / maxdepth UNK
6 bow tubes plus 4 aft tubes
22 UNK torps OR 32 UNK mines
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Iran - KILO SS **EKM**
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Japan HARUSHIO SS - max 22 KTS ; 2750 tons ; maxdepth unk
6 fwd tubes
total of 20 weps - type 89 (30 km/70 kts!) and harpoon missiles.
*note type 89 listed as "equivalent to mk48" presume asuw/asw act/psv
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
North Korea - YUGO SSM minisub - 4kts - (10 tons)
2 type 40 torps (65kts/ 13 km *****is better known as the payload torp for the ssn27 missile!!) no reloads

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pakistan
AGOSTA SS - 20.5 kts /1230 tons /depth unk
4 fwd tubes - total of 20
f17mod2 dual purpose torp (18 km / 40kts) / Exocet SM 39 missile (50mi)

DAPHNE ss - 16kts / 300m / 1032 tons
8 fwd + 4 aft tubes - No Reloads
e 15 torps( 25 kts / 12 km passive *ASUW*) plus harpoon missiles
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
RUSSIA - various AKULA's and KILOS

DELTA IV SSBN - 15,500 tns /24 kts/ 450 m
16 r29 ssn23 skiff ballistic missiles
4 BOW TUBES W 12 unknown"TORPEDOS" AND/OR SSN15 STARFISH

OSCAR II SSGN - 31 kts /500m /19200 tons
24 ssn19 strike missiles plus
4 bow and 4 aft with 24 various torps and missiles.

TYPHOON SSBN - 33,800 tons /25 kts /400 m
***NOTE*** - TK 20 has 20 r39SSN20 STURGEON Ballistic missiles
***NOTE*** - TK 208 has 20 BULAVA Ballistic missiles
ALL - 6 fwd tubes with 22 various torps and missiles

VICTOR III SSN - 31 kts / 600m / 7200 tons
6 tubes w/ 24 various torps and missiles.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
TAIWAN - HAI LUNG SSK 2650 TONS / 20 KTS/ 240M ("OPERATIONAL")
6 TUBES 28 SUT wireguide torps (asw/asuw /34 kts / 12 km)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
UK - TRAFALGAR SSN - 5200 tons/ 30 kts/ 300m opdepth / 590m maxdepth
5 tubes -
25 total of HARPOON missiles,
spearfish heavyweight torp 55 - 75 kts / 40km / 900m opdepth !
tigerfish torps( mod 2 ? ), (maxspd 35 kts 16/22nm range)
***NOTE*** - all trafalgars have been assigned TLAMS
***NOTE***- s 87 , 93, 109 have Tomahawk LAM in lieu of some torps
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
USA -
Seawolf, LA688 and
LA688i (***NOTE*** ssn756 and on are listed as mine capable)

OHIO SSBN - 18750 tons, 25 kts , 300m
24 TRIDENT D5 Ballistic mIssiles
(***NOTE*** SSBN 726-731 carry TRIDENT C4)
4 Bow tubes unk # of MK 48 torps.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

[OneShot]

Would you mind posting this helpful stuff over at the CADC ?


Cheers
OS

[Kapitan]

DELTA IV SSBN - 15,500 tns /24 kts/ 450 m
16 r29 ssn23 skiff ballistic missiles
4 BOW TUBES W 12 unknown"TORPEDOS" AND/OR SSN15 STARFISH

R-29 SS-N-23 yup correct with the D19 launch system, also it can fire SS-N-15 SS-N-16 and also the new Klub missiles SS-N-27, main torpedos will be the 53-65 series and the 65 series four 533mm torpedo tubes and two 650mm tubes

Also Delta IV displaces 16,200tonnes surfaced and 18,100 tonnes submerged, with a top speed of 27 knots submerged and 13 knots surfaced diving depth 450 meters.


OSCAR II SSGN - 31 kts /500m /19200 tons
24 ssn19 strike missiles plus
4 bow and 4 aft with 24 various torps and missiles

Oscar II has 24 SS-N-19 ship wreck missiles known as P700 she has 8 torpedo tubes for conventional torpedos and cruise missiles, including the skhval 53 series 65 series SS-N-15 16 AND 27.
Her top speed is 32 knots max diving depth 500 meters although saftey depth is 450 meters.

She displaces 19,800 tonnes surfaced and 24,000 tonnes submerged she does not have any torpedo tubes aft you can tell because you only have to look at the screw arangment, and she can carry 28 reloads.

TYPHOON SSBN - 33,800 tons /25 kts /400 m
***NOTE*** - TK 20 has 20 r39SSN20 STURGEON Ballistic missiles
***NOTE*** - TK 208 has 20 BULAVA Ballistic missiles
ALL - 6 fwd tubes with 22 various torps and missiles

First you forgot the TK17 but to start:

Typhoon displaces 33,400 tonnes surfaced and 48,000 submerged top speed of only 24 knots and a diving depth of 450 meters, she is armed again with 8 torpedo tubes six are 533mm and the other two are 650mm for standard 53 series and 65 series torpedos, she can launch the SS-N-15 and SS-N-16 but is not able to fire the SS-N-27 or the skhval.


VICTOR III SSN - 31 kts / 600m / 7200 tons
6 tubes w/ 24 various torps and missiles.

Victor III can dive to only 540 meters and has a top speed of 33 knots.

[Bellman]

:up: Thanks P ! :cool:

[Palindromeria]

Kapitan -
i neither forgot nor am i wrong about anything.
since
ALL the info is nearly verbatim from the IN GAME reference. any discrepancies with realistic tonnages or other realistic data vs IN GAME data , can be taken up with directly with the board members of scs on their private cellphones. i hear they are convening a conference call for this very purpose as these tonnage discrepancies are really the cause of every other problem in the game. :-j

it doesnt matter if a sub goes to 600m in reality if it crushes at 500 in the game.

i specifically avoided re-listing info on the russian weps as there is already a wealth of it out there and well, you get to use most of those weps so you should already have a clue. and since i made this for myself frankly i didnt see the need to relist every russian wep .

the delta specifically did not list any torpedo types. so what are they actually carrying in the game ? i dunno - have to use em a bit with show truth on.

thanks for making me explain far more than should have been necessary and reminding why i shouldnt have done anything beyond keeping this info on my desktop.
---------------------------------------------------------------------

oneshot -

please feel free to copy / paste it over there -
im glad you find it useful and understand its purpose.

dave

[LuftWolf]

The best bet is to take info like this directly from the database.

The USNI Reference frequently contradicts itself, third-party sources, and the database.

I don't use it at all for anything, as I stopped trusting the information (I just have to look it up in the database or globalsecurity/fas.org anyway).