Range to target

[robj250]

Is there a mod that will tell me the distance to a target is metres instead of long range, medium range and short range? If there is, where do I obtain it? Thanks. Robert

[VonHelsching]

Is there a mod that will tell me the distance to a target is metres instead of long range, medium range and short range? If there is, where do I obtain it? Thanks. Robert

Not that I know of. But I your watch office is on the conning tower, you can click the officer icon and ask the range to closest visual target.

[Dimitrius07]

Yep its true but its not realistic :down: :down: :88)

[Rosencrantz]

RobJ250. The system short-medium-long is very realistic. At least much more realistic than it would be if your hydrophone operator would tell you: "Ahoy, Skipper! Frachter coming close, distance 2581 meters!" :huh:

In contacts_cfg (Silent Hunter/Data/Cfg) you can take a look or adjust values in every "category" = short range could be for example up to 2000 meters, medium up to 10 000 meters and long over 10 000 meters.

Greetings,

-RC-

[robj250]

RobJ250. The system short-medium-long is very realistic. At least much more realistic than it would be if your hydrophone operator would tell you: "Ahoy, Skipper! Frachter coming close, distance 2581 meters!" :huh:

In contacts_cfg (Silent Hunter/Data/Cfg) you can take a look or adjust values in every "category" = short range could be for example up to 2000 meters, medium up to 10 000 meters and long over 10 000 meters.

Greetings,

-RC-

I'm positive, when I installed a bunch of mods that made my program crash, that I came across a mod that gave the range on metres. What does the mod T2Rangemod do? Thanks. Robert

[vois2]

This question has been hashed out a lot in the forums since the game's release in late March 2005. Many people argue that it is indeed 'realistic' to ask the watch officer for the range to nearest target, because this sums up the work of several officers who would have been plotting and range-finding as their duties.

Those determined to do so can always find the range by themselves. The stadimeter on the periscope and uzo device can be used once a target has been identified. Of course it's a bear to use in heavy seas.

I'm not aware of a mod which relieves us of the need to click on the watch officer and then ask in his submenu for range to nearest target. But they may well be such a mod.

Like most interested players, I first learned the whole routine, acting as if I were the only officer on board and responsible for all calculations from 'A' to 'Z'. This is fun and rewarding for a while but can be a massive investment of time. These days, like so many others, I simply never worry about range. I find the target's rough course, and set in for a rough 90 attack, and fire when I have my sub in good firing position and less then about visual 700m or so.

[robj250]

This question has been hashed out a lot in the forums since the game's release in late March 2005. Many people argue that it is indeed 'realistic' to ask the watch officer for the range to nearest target, because this sums up the work of several officers who would have been plotting and range-finding as their duties.

Those determined to do so can always find the range by themselves. The stadimeter on the periscope and uzo device can be used once a target has been identified. Of course it's a bear to use in heavy seas.

I'm not aware of a mod which relieves us of the need to click on the watch officer and then ask in his submenu for range to nearest target. But they may well be such a mod.

Like most interested players, I first learned the whole routine, acting as if I were the only officer on board and responsible for all calculations from 'A' to 'Z'. This is fun and rewarding for a while but can be a massive investment of time. These days, like so many others, I simply never worry about range. I find the target's rough course, and set in for a rough 90 attack, and fire when I have my sub in good firing position and less then about visual 700m or so.

Will try that. I snuck close to the convoy bearing right on at 180 at flank speed and when I got reasonably close I took out two small merchants, G7a torpedoes, 1 metre depth, fast running at a distance varying from 3,000 to 2,000m. I big problem is taking out the Clemson Destroyer which has moved way behind my sub and is just moving around, no pinging. I have not been spotted, fet :D

[vois2]

Back in the old days, in April and May of 2005, when everyone was still quite new to the game, there were so many great notions floating around to use the elements of planar geometry to determine detection and interception angles. There was really beautiful geometry out there integrating estimated target speeds and vectors to easily find the best track. Though it seems unlikely, range to target always ended up being the least useful variable for practical purposes.

Now, with regard to convoys, you should be able to always target only the middle two or three lanes, where all the juicy targets are located. This requires you to 'pop up' in between the lanes themselves, with a row of targets about 300m to your bow and a second nice row of targets about 300m behind you, to the stern. You can then fire the bow and stern torp at the same time, and no more fiddling with small merchants -- you'll be taking out huge oil tankers and troop transports and perhaps even battle cruisers in the middle convoy lanes. If you'd like help with that notion, just email.

[robj250]

Back in the old days, in April and May of 2005, when everyone was still quite new to the game, there were so many great notions floating around to use the elements of planar geometry to determine detection and interception angles. There was really beautiful geometry out there integrating estimated target speeds and vectors to easily find the best track. Though it seems unlikely, range to target always ended up being the least useful variable for practical purposes.

Now, with regard to convoys, you should be able to always target only the middle two or three lanes, where all the juicy targets are located. This requires you to 'pop up' in between the lanes themselves, with a row of targets about 300m to your bow and a second nice row of targets about 300m behind you, to the stern. You can then fire the bow and stern torp at the same time, and no more fiddling with small merchants -- you'll be taking out huge oil tankers and troop transports and perhaps even battle cruisers in the middle convoy lanes. If you'd like help with that notion, just email.

Thanks for the info, and I have no questions at the moment. However, I do have to get rid of that darn mast in front. and get rid of the words "Game Paused" that appears on the screen when I pause the game. Robert

[VonHelsching]

I'm positive, when I installed a bunch of mods that made my program crash, that I came across a mod that gave the range on metres. What does the mod T2Rangemod do? Thanks. Robert

IIRC, the T2Rangemod is an obsolete mod that fixes the range of the TII electric torpedos from 1800 to 5000(?). This was fixed a long ago, I believe, with one of the official updates.

[robj250]

Hi. Thanks for informing me that it is an obsolete mod. I will not bother installing it. Do you know how to stop the words "GAME PAUSED" from appearing when the game is paused. It has to do with removing those words in a cfg file somewhere but I cannot remember. Robert.

[robj250]

Hi. Thanks for informing me that it is an obsolete mod. I will not bother installing it. Do you know how to stop the words "GAME PAUSED" from appearing when the game is paused. It has to do with removing those words in a cfg file somewhere but I cannot remember. Robert.
YES THERE IS, I found it = Go into your "\SilentHunterIII\data\Menu\" directory and open up the file in there called en_menu.txt (assuming of course you are using the english version) and at line 90 you will see the "game paused" string. Delete the text but leave the bit that says "90=", save the file and thats it no more game paused text in game.

[Krieg-Schwein]

There is an other way to get the exact distance from any target and keep it there when ever you need it..

In the set key program (Get at http://u-boot.realsimulation.com/ in the general section) to assign your own custom shortcut keys look for (Sonar Ping) and set it to {Crew and what ever key you want}. Then in game when you come across a ship go to the hydrophone and find the target you want then use the shortcut you made for (Sonar Ping) and it will give you the exact distance from the target every time you hit your Short cut key,
However it wont give you the bearing and if you go back to the Hydrophone you will lose the target, but you can go deep and use the ping to find out how far the target is from you at any time as long as you are not on the hydrophone. This is real nice trick to know if you are being pursued by a Destroyer, but you can only ping 1 target at a time so if 2 or more are after you then you can only keep an eye on one

[robj250]

There is an other way to get the exact distance from any target and keep it there when ever you need it..

In the set key program (Get at http://u-boot.realsimulation.com/ in the general section) to assign your own custom shortcut keys look for (Sonar Ping) and set it to {Crew and what ever key you want}. Then in game when you come across a ship go to the hydrophone and find the target you want then use the shortcut you made for (Sonar Ping) and it will give you the exact distance from the target every time you hit your Short cut key,
However it wont give you the bearing and if you go back to the Hydrophone you will lose the target, but you can go deep and use the ping to find out how far the target is from you at any time as long as you are not on the hydrophone. This is real nice trick to know if you are being pursued by a Destroyer, but you can only ping 1 target at a time so if 2 or more are after you then you can only keep an eye on one
Thanks for the information. A question, do you know where I can obtain the various emblems to put on my conning tower?

[Krieg-Schwein]

There is an other way to get the exact distance from any target and keep it there when ever you need it..

In the set key program (Get at http://u-boot.realsimulation.com/ in the general section) to assign your own custom shortcut keys look for (Sonar Ping) and set it to {Crew and what ever key you want}. Then in game when you come across a ship go to the hydrophone and find the target you want then use the shortcut you made for (Sonar Ping) and it will give you the exact distance from the target every time you hit your Short cut key,
However it wont give you the bearing and if you go back to the Hydrophone you will lose the target, but you can go deep and use the ping to find out how far the target is from you at any time as long as you are not on the hydrophone. This is real nice trick to know if you are being pursued by a Destroyer, but you can only ping 1 target at a time so if 2 or more are after you then you can only keep an eye on one
Thanks for the information. A question, do you know where I can obtain the various emblems to put on my conning tower?


You should be able to find that at http://u-boot.realsimulation.com/ also...Good Luck!

[robj250]

There is an other way to get the exact distance from any target and keep it there when ever you need it..

In the set key program (Get at http://u-boot.realsimulation.com/ in the general section) to assign your own custom shortcut keys look for (Sonar Ping) and set it to {Crew and what ever key you want}. Then in game when you come across a ship go to the hydrophone and find the target you want then use the shortcut you made for (Sonar Ping) and it will give you the exact distance from the target every time you hit your Short cut key,
However it wont give you the bearing and if you go back to the Hydrophone you will lose the target, but you can go deep and use the ping to find out how far the target is from you at any time as long as you are not on the hydrophone. This is real nice trick to know if you are being pursued by a Destroyer, but you can only ping 1 target at a time so if 2 or more are after you then you can only keep an eye on one
Thanks for the information. A question, do you know where I can obtain the various emblems to put on my conning tower?


You should be able to find that at http://u-boot.realsimulation.com/ also...Good Luck!

I am on patrol at the moment, when I get back into port I will get back to you about where and how to install and then how to setup the short cut key.

[robj250]

Well, I have downloaded setkey but I don't know if I'm intelligent enough (thinking wise) if I can set it up and I've never used the sonar to find a target. Robert. :oops:

[Keelbuster]

Though it seems unlikely, range to target always ended up being the least useful variable for practical purposes.


Without accurate range information, you can't estimate target speed. If you can't estimate target speed (and you haven't had the god-send radio report), then you are forced to take a shot 90abeam, <600m, basically over open sights (~0 gyro). Either that or fire 4 torpedoes in a spread to get one or two hits. Or am I wrong?

Kb

[vois2]

You are precisely correct. Which is why I described my method of dead reckoning 90AOB-700m-gyro zero attack. I don't even bother with anything else for the sake of time consumption. ALTHOUGH if I can get into position for an attack on a military convoy (as opposed to merchant convoy) then I will apply all of the tried and true methods, with stadimeter at the ready.

[robj250]

You are precisely correct. Which is why I described my method of dead reckoning 90AOB-700m-gyro zero attack. I don't even bother with anything else for the sake of time consumption. ALTHOUGH if I can get into position for an attack on a military convoy (as opposed to merchant convoy) then I will apply all of the tried and true methods, with stadimeter at the ready.
Thanks. I looked at the instruction sheet and it is "dutch" to me. I installed the sound trainer and I'm no good at that. :-? So, I'm afraid this "setKey" is going to give me problems, but if I knew how to do it, I would certainly give it a try. I'm sure there is someone out there who has set his up :rock: I am on a patrol at the moment and I'm taking on a large convoy. I already sunk the lead V&W Destroyer which came after me. now I'm trying to wait for the convoy to come to me, I am at periscope depth and a darn Clemson Destroyer keeps annoying me and that warship is a bugger to deal with. Taking on this large convoy, which by the way, I was informed about by the "Daily reports" I installed. I haven't even made it to my patrol area yet. It is pitch black out. One thing I'm not quite used to is how to properly use the TDC, but I guess I'll catch onto it. Most of my kills have been by luck. :-j

[vois2]

robj250 -- I think you quoted the most recent thread post, and not the post of the guy who mentioned above the setkey. Sorry I can't help you with the setkey issue, I don't use that mod.

[robj250]

robj250 -- I think you quoted the most recent thread post, and not the post of the guy who mentioned above the setkey. Sorry I can't help you with the setkey issue, I don't use that mod.
Thanks anyway. I'm sure there is someone out there that had used setkey for that purpose and tell me how to set it up to find the range. Robert

[Keelbuster]

You are precisely correct. Which is why I described my method of dead reckoning 90AOB-700m-gyro zero attack. I don't even bother with anything else for the sake of time consumption. ALTHOUGH if I can get into position for an attack on a military convoy (as opposed to merchant convoy) then I will apply all of the tried and true methods, with stadimeter at the ready.

Aye. In late war it's impossible to get that close to convoys. I think you have to take the long shot, which can require stad readings by UZO or scope. On the other hand, in late war there are FaT torpedoes. I really want to learn how to use these properly because they should seriously simplify the man targetting sit'n later in the war. Two things I haven't mastered (nor practiced much) with FaT - one is getting the search direction/angle correct - my FaTs tend to go against the convoy rather than wind up their target. Second, getting the FaT RunToEnable distance - it's the distance the torpedo will travel before getting to the expected impact point, which is different than all the ranging estimates you've taken before. Is there a way to get this directly, or do i need to practice my trig?