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JCWolf
02-26-06, 05:53 PM
i had a cople of times visited other sites and never saw nobody that rememberd to mod the Capt. bed or quarters inside the sub...

this is just an idea guys, since there are a lot of excelent moders here you could do it, cause i've see loads of picks and images from real U-Boats and it was a litle diferent and biger..I think... :hmm:


correct me if i'm rong guys... :ping:

Vonotto
02-26-06, 07:57 PM
Not sure but I thought someone said that area was hard coded and not changable....I have been known to be wrong though. (my wife says quit often)

LukeFF
02-27-06, 07:52 AM
The captain's quarters looks much like it did in reality:

http://www.uboat.net/gallery/index.html?gallery=U505C&img=13

The Avon Lady
02-27-06, 08:00 AM
I have been known to be wrong though. (my wife says quit often)
You mean "quite". :roll:

THE_MASK
02-27-06, 08:23 AM
You woman are always correctin us men . :roll:

Vonotto
02-27-06, 09:12 AM
I have been known to be wrong though. (my wife says quit often)
You mean "quite". :roll:

Yes I did mean that thanks.....but she also tells me to quit all the time as well.

JCWolf
02-27-06, 10:27 AM
I have been known to be wrong though. (my wife says quit often)
You mean "quite". :roll:

Yes I did mean that thanks.....but she also tells me to quit all the time as well.




:rock: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: hahahaha!

Doesn't mean a thing pal, :lol: :lol: , they allways find a way to pin point our errors ! :lol:

As for the Capt. quarters what i've ment was that could change the graphics to give that spot a bit more realism.... :arrgh!: :up:

LukeFF
02-28-06, 01:30 AM
As for the Capt. quarters what i've ment was that could change the graphics to give that spot a bit more realism.... :arrgh!: :up:

Bordinstrumente 1.0

JCWolf
02-28-06, 10:01 PM
Ok whent around u-boats webs to find a decent pick of a real capt. quarters....see it for yourselfs.... :rock:


http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2685/image15iu.jpg



Now this is what it was like, since it's a real photo from a U-boat museum somewhere i can't remember...

I know the one in the game it's not to diferent but lacks of realisme and we need to give to that corner a litle of our atention...

I'm diging on it at the moment trying to find a way to change that...

but some how didn't found the folder where it comes the graphics for that subs part... :rock: :up:

CCIP
02-28-06, 10:22 PM
To be honest, I fail to see any substantial difference, other than that the 'real' one seems to be missing a mattress :P

Otherwise, all is about the same. What changes would you want to see?

JCWolf
02-28-06, 11:06 PM
For example the steel grid protection on the side of the bed....just to name one... :rock: :hmm:

MarkQuinn
03-06-06, 05:29 AM
I think sometimes we mod, or want to mod, simply because we can. There's something to be said for personal taste, it's true. But I think if the picture of the real commander's quarters looked just like our SH3 representation, and the SH3 quarters looked like that picture of the real thing, we'd be saying we want it the other way. No flame intended here whatsoever, trust me, because I've fallen into that trap many a time, through many games. As I hungrily downloaded and installed FUBAR's new boat skins, I couldn't help but wonder: if the default boat skins looked like FUBAR's, and FUBAR had released instead the rusty, worn skins we got out of the box, I'd be downloading and replacing with as much anticipation, giddy that my boats would look old and war torn at last!

We mod because modding is fun. We ask for mods because they can be done (sometimes). That doesn't mean what we have is so bad.

Just MHO.

MQ

Tikigod
03-06-06, 09:09 AM
I agree...I am more bothered by the fact that there aren't other compartments to explore rather than if my matress is authentic or not...I really don't see any differences in the pictures...other than the doorway is at an angle...but, nothing that bothers me enough to install a mod for it...

if there was...I'd like to see maybe a collection of uboat books you could read while laying down....or a functioning privacy curtain for when the boat is swaying...or a functioning reading light you can turn on and off...but, all these are accessories and cannot be added from a mod standpoint....but, would be a nice addition if they were to make an expansion pack that gave us more compartments across the board for all our uboats.....

XXi
03-06-06, 09:21 AM
I must agree with Tikigod. The compartments are not that bad - although I ask myself, why the sonar/radio does look the same on VII, IX and XXI types - is it accurate ? I have no idea so far...

But again, what bothers me more than that is lack of the other compartmens available. Well, I wish I could SEE torpedo room, or the engines that power my Boot.

JCWolf
03-06-06, 09:30 AM
No argumenting from me at all bguys, but in mi opinion if we whant such acuracy and reallity in certain things and give the trouble to change even a needle and a glass in tyhis game cause they don't look perfect or iqual, just thought we could do the same on this quarters nothing else.... :up: :up:


But it's no problem to me at all guys, just posting another Topic i guess!! ;)

XXi
03-06-06, 09:40 AM
Well, certainly it is NOT a problem, but... sometimes I think the problem is there are some essential bugs or things that could be made better, though... mostly, they`re too complex or problematic. The infamous bug of XXI SNorkel radar for example. I wish it was solved, but despite of best efforts it hasn`t been made so far.

By the way, another thing I`m thinking of is some change to the U Boot damage model.
What annoys me is:
repair times
-almost no leaking or no leaking at all ( considering the place of fuel storage, the leaking should be somehow common damage )
-if your steering is jammed by the DC explosions, you cannot turn and move only STRAIGHT forward. Technically, you should move in the way forced by the position of jammed steering
-I`m not sure about the depth rudder; if their damage causes problems with changes of the depth and so on
-I suppose steering should be available for repair only when surfaced - I presume that it SHOULD be hard, to say the least, to repair external thingy from submerged U Boot.
-Hydrophone should be, as I presume, more fragile and more exposed to damaqe from DCs.

.... so much so far. Perhaps it IS some mod idea, to improve this issues ?

Tikigod
03-06-06, 10:29 AM
What annoys me is:
-repair times
-almost no leaking or no leaking at all ( considering the place of fuel storage, the leaking should be somehow common damage )


I agree the leaking issue always has bugged me as well...Aces of Deep had an excellent leaking model. As your hull integrity depleted you would leak more. This would affect how deep you went based on how much water was entering the boat from the leaks and the surrounding water pressure. The more problematic the leaks the more you depended on your pumps working to push the water out. If the amount of water entering boat would exceed that of the pumps pushing it out the weight of water would eventually cause your ship to sink more requiring you to use more ballast to compensate. Once your ballast would deplete it would force you to surface to make repairs. If too much water entered you were on your way to bottom. This caused you to always monitor the state of your boat and it was a challenge while trying to stay submerged enough to evade depth charges, enemy, and the like...yet shallow enough not to be overwhelmed by water from the leaks...

I remember some instances in Aces of the Deep that even when you surfaced you had so much leaking that couldn't be patched that you had to rush back to port for repairs to save the ship....otherwise the ship would sink again ...especially if the pumps failed while leaking...and this forced you to abandon ship.....It was times like this where your leaks were so great that you had to spend the rest of the trip home on the surface....if you dove only to periscope depth you would sink never to return to surface again....and the more you played the game the more your learned how many leaks could be tollerated at each depth based on this behavior....it also caused you to reexamine your navigational course...to find a better route home that could be handled by traveling on the surface....in SH3 this would be excellent with air traffic and other obsticles you encounter along the way...Aces didn't have these obsticles so the only challenge was trying to make it home without sinking again....

Somehow this leaking issue needs to be addressed (although I think its beyond anythign a mod can do).....you can have 20% hull integrity yet no leaks or flooding at all....I can understand being at surface and having the ship dry maybe by pumps working and no pressure forcing it in....but, the deeper you go again the ship should show signs of the leaks again....which they dont because you see this dry uboat scenerio again. Even a sub with 100% hull integrity should be leaking while submerged...all subs leak its just amount of how much can be tollerated. I never have experienced pump failure in SH3 but, if there is a case of it. It should show signs of minor flooding even if its not threatening the life of the boat to illustrate the fact that all ships leak and need pumps to stay submerged for long periods of time. Heck even surface vessels need them...that is why you have a bilge pump...

As far as Repair Times XXi,
this has been addressed with the Hollywood Advanced RUB mod. It lengthens your repair times so it takes hours or days instead of minutes to repair equipment and compartments. So there is a chance of being stuck on bottom in the event of too much flooding and running out of air if repairs arent completed in time. He also has a fatigue model that you can use with it...that will exhaust the crew as they work forcing you to give them rest periods during repairs.

Sailor Steve
03-06-06, 01:05 PM
I think what could be modded in the captain's quarters is the little things, coffee mugs, maps and posters on the walls, the things that got added in SHII.

JCWolf
03-06-06, 03:08 PM
I think what could be modded in the captain's quarters is the little things, coffee mugs, maps and posters on the walls, the things that got added in SHII.




Yep exactlly what i was trying to say, not a major turn over the all graphic, not add some small detaills to increase reallity to the all.... :roll: ... BED :zzz:

kptn_kaiserhof
03-07-06, 01:55 AM
hello all