IE7 or Firefox ?

[Drebbel]

What browser are you using, and why ?

I use Firfox, and before that IE with tab browser add-on

Just installed IE7 and it look great !

Download the BETA here:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie7/ie7betaredirect.mspx

[sonar732]

FireFox here also. Granted, my wife doesn't like it at all since it's "new" to her. Even though we've got SBC Yahoo! DSL's browser which includes tabbed browsing, she won't use it either. :( :cry: :damn:

[Skybird]

I know the arguments that speak in favour of Firefox. I have installed 1.5 myself, but rarely use it.

Because I cannot work around one simple observation. I use IE6, with very restrictive settings, maximum security settings. This usually works fione for me. When I need Java or Active X, I switch to medium settings for a minute, and then back to maximum again.

I do active scans of my HD twice a weak, via Antivir PE, Adaware, Spybot and A-Squared. If I get one alarm in a year, that is much.

when I have used Firefox more often (version 1), I got one or two dozens from scanners on every active scan.

Conclusion: much more unwanted problematic stuff reached my system when using Firefox than when I use IE with max settings.

It may be against the doctinre and widespread opinion, but the way i handle IE6 is more safe than the use of Firefox, as counted by number of alarms. I am no insider, I can't explain it, it simply is my observation.

I have tried Firefox 1.5 as well. And active scans again bring unwanted results. Sinc Firefox has no features that I miss or that I need, I do not consider it to be a loss.

[Drebbel]

Although it looks great, better than Firfox IMHO

I miss the following features:

- Open new tab when typing url in address bar
- Open all favorites from a certain favorite folder in 1 click

[Rotary Crewman]

Firefox, won't use explorer unless i have to.

[TteFAboB]

IE6.

[XabbaRus]

OK looks good but I want to know why when I am already connected to the net that when I click on a link ro go to another web page the bloody dialing box keeps coming up. Regardless of how I set the connection settings it happens and is bloody annoying. Other than that it's fine.

Seems with IE6 /7 you have more control over program options etc...

Who knows I might go back to it. In many ways I preferred the layout of IE6.

[gdogghenrikson]

firefox all the way...open source and lots of extensions. but my second choice is Opera

[Sharkstooth]

IE7........its basically firefox anyway now.

:yep:

[badhat17]

IE7........its basically firefox anyway now.

:yep:


HERETIC ! :lol:

[Malefactor]

HERETIC ! :lol:

Careful BH,that's liable to get you KP.Not that I would know anything about such matters. :hmm:

[CCIP]

Anything but IE. I dislike IE with extreme prejudice, to the point of ridiculousness :88)

[badhat17]

I fear not the scratchety scratch of the red pen for I walk in the valley of FireFox.

[SUBMAN1]

IE kinda sucks. I really dislike what it does to my users in file downloads (Do you really want this file, click here if you do!). i mean, if i didn't want the file, do ya think I would have clicked on it??? Duh! Anyway, Firefox is very similar to IE 7 and the very look of IE 7 was stolen from Firefox on Linux's KDE desktop! IE 7 is no more than Firefox on KDE to me and I have already been using that for a while!

-S

PS. Add a good proxy to Firefox like Privoxy and it is the best browser combo you can have.

[Hellcat]

I'll stick with the "second stream" developers as they seem more committed to their products than Microsoft has ever been.

For example I switched completly to Trillian (all in one instant messenger) and have never looked back. Or an even better example is Open Office 2.0. Sure you lose some of that functionality you've become accustomed to, but change is the name of the game.

[SUBMAN1]

I'll stick with the "second stream" developers as they seem more committed to their products than Microsoft has ever been.

For example I switched completly to Trillian (all in one instant messenger) and have never looked back. Or an even better example is Open Office 2.0. Sure you lose some of that functionality you've become accustomed to, but change is the name of the game.

What? W/ OO 2.0 you added functionality through the Open Document format. MS has been dragging their feet on this one, but they will be forced to join in the future.

OO 2.0 also has same number of boxes in a spreadsheet now at 65,535 where OO 1.4 only had 32,738. In the wordproc, I can only find grammer checker as the only thing possbly missed (Does anyone use this?) Abiword can be a quick fix for that, but I never use it anyway. Everything else has feature for feature that I can see, unless you can show me different?

You can even save in .doc or .xls if you need to send a file back to word or Excel. My Macro tests were even successful, but I did find one doc that had complex macros that didn't transfer perfectly (It was even hard to find since 99.9% of it did transfer correctly). Other than that one doc, everything is interchangable as far as I can see.

-S

[Sharkstooth]

IE7........its basically firefox anyway now.

:yep:


HERETIC ! :lol:

ohhh i prefer " nonconformist" :cool:

scritch scritch

[Malefactor]

scritch scritch
I haven't seen that for a while.But then,that is not such a bad thing,ehh? :P

[Oberon]

HERETIC ! :lol:

Careful BH,that's liable to get you KP.Not that I would know anything about such matters. :hmm:

http://www.kpnuts.com/? :lol:

[gdogghenrikson]

Anything but IE. I dislike IE with extreme prejudice, to the point of ridiculousness :88)
:up: :up:

[Skybird]

Is IE7 still beta?

[Terrax]

I've used Firefox since the 1st beta was released and haven't looked back. I only use IE when FF won't display a page properly, which is rare. And like Sonar732's wife, mine won't use FF because it's different, even though it's a lot faster than IE. :damn:

[jumpy]

And like Sonar732's wife, mine won't use FF because it's different, even though it's a lot faster than IE. :damn:

hehe my better half doesn't have a choice- as I installed the network and all of her pc's software, hence one day her browser changed to FF :yep:
her: eeuw, what's this browser thingy?
me: it's FF, use it, it's loads better than IE.
her: how do I use it?
me: same as before except you can use tabbed browsing and some other cool stuff.
her: what's that? (points at screen)
me: *sigh* something that makes your life easyer...
her: *frowns* eer, ok if you say so.

And despite the funky 'manage bookmarks' option, she just has one really really long list that just keeps on scrolling forever lol.

Honestly if it were left up to her, she'd still be using a 486 and windows '95.

[STEED]

I dont really care as long as I can get on the web :doh:

[kiwi_2005]

I use 3 browsers. Opera for subsim. IX6 for kiwi sites and Firefox as a backup if the other two crash. :roll:

[kiwi_2005]

IE6 not ix6.

Is IE7 out?

[Gizzmoe]

Is IE7 out?

It´s a public beta, Drebbel gave the link.

[McBeck]

I've used Firefox since the 1st beta was released and haven't looked back. I only use IE when FF won't display a page properly, which is rare. And like Sonar732's wife, mine won't use FF because it's different, even though it's a lot faster than IE. :damn:
Same here! Never looked back I regularly try other browsers. FF is the only one iv stuck with...

[SUBMAN1]

I've used Firefox since the 1st beta was released and haven't looked back. I only use IE when FF won't display a page properly, which is rare. And like Sonar732's wife, mine won't use FF because it's different, even though it's a lot faster than IE. :damn:

Its not the fault of Firefox, but is the fault of the web site programmer who doesn't have a clue about html!! He probably used Fontpage or something to make it.

-S

[Syxx_Killer]

I use Firefox. I really like tabbed browsing. I also really like opening and closing tabs by middle-clicking my mouse. It makes things more efficient. I love some of the extensions that are out. The ones I use are IE View (one of my favorites), Smiley Xtra, Download Manager Tweak, Adblock, and Adblock Filterset.G Updater. I used to have a bunch of themes, but have just stuck with the stock theme since the reinstall. I doubt I will use IE7 for a long time to come yet. There is no way I am installing anything with the words "beta" and "Microsoft" in it. :lol:

[JSLTIGER]

There is no way I am installing anything with the words "beta" and "Microsoft" in it. :lol:

I'm still leery of installing anything with JUST "Microsoft" in it! :yep: :yep: :P :D :up:

[kiwi_2005]

Just install IE7. Bland but its fast.

[Iceman]

I like using a product that is backed by the richest man in the world with enough money to throw at any problem that may arise. lol...but IE 6 still never use a beta lol...guinnea pigs. tehehehe

[XabbaRus]

Well I decided to install IE7 but now I can't use windows update
Also the friggin dialler keeps popping up even when I am using yahoo to send a file...argggg

And I can't revert back to IE6

[Gizzmoe]

Well I decided to install IE7 but now I can't use windows update

What error message do you get?

[XabbaRus]

ITs ok I had security set to maximum even though I had the windows update in trusted sites like they say.

I keep haivng this thing that is in connections It isn't set to "Never Dial a connection" whenever I click a link it keeps throwing up the dialler,e ven though I am on line.

[Ducimus]

Not touching IE7 with a cattleprod.

1.) It still has active X, which is a really bad concept and needs to go away.

2.) Its in beta, hence its full of bugs, more so then the umpteen thousand that will be in on release.

3.) Every tom, dick, and harry, cracker, virus writer, script kiddie, and any other nafarious nouns i can think of are going to be all over IE7 like a pack of dogs on a 3 legged cat.

[kiwi_2005]

Not touching IE7 with a cattleprod.

1.) It still has active X, which is a really bad concept and needs to go away.

2.) Its in beta, hence its full of bugs, more so then the umpteen thousand that will be in on release.

3.) Every tom, dick, and harry, cracker, virus writer, script kiddie, and any other nafarious nouns i can think of are going to be all over IE7 like a pack of dogs on a 3 legged cat.

True. But thats the risk ya take when testing a beta. Im often very cruel to my PC :arrgh!:

[sonar732]

ITs ok I had security set to maximum even though I had the windows update in trusted sites like they say.

I keep haivng this thing that is in connections It isn't set to "Never Dial a connection" whenever I click a link it keeps throwing up the dialler,e ven though I am on line.

I wonder if you have "Dial whenever a network connection isn't present" selected?

[kiwi_2005]

I keep haivng this thing that is in connections It isn't set to "Never Dial a connection" whenever I click a link it keeps throwing up the dialler,e ven though I am on line

I got this with IE7. You must set it to 'Never Dial a connection' in the dialup settings, then it will stop.

[Iceman]

Delete any old dial up connections ..if you no longer use them...so there is not an option for the dialer to pop up...maybe even if you do use a dial up connection....save your number somewhere and add a dial up connection only when you need it....it should be totally greyed out as an option if you have no dial up connection setup.

In your network area in XP...

[lesrae]

I keep haivng this thing that is in connections It isn't set to "Never Dial a connection" whenever I click a link it keeps throwing up the dialler,e ven though I am on line

I got this with IE7. You must set it to 'Never Dial a connection' in the dialup settings, then it will stop.

Ditto - works fine now.

[Drebbel]

Seems that after installing IE7 (and keeping Firefox) I can not open links from within emails (outlook express anymore).

Nothing happens when I click on a link.

Anyone else having a similar problem ?

[kiwi_2005]

No, no such problem as you mentioned. My outlook still works fine, and i also have firefox ver 1.0.7

[JSLTIGER]

No, no such problem as you mentioned. My outlook still works fine, and i also have firefox ver 1.0.7

1.07 is obsolete...1.5.0.1 is the current version.

[Ramius]

http://ganjataz.com/css/sigs/reason1-firefox-notIE.gif

http://img418.imageshack.us/img418/3202/mo9bu.gif

http://img172.exs.cx/img172/1236/bowtothefox7mw.gif

Thanks Syxx_Killer, like this SmileXtra extension :)

[JSLTIGER]

ROFLMAO! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[kiwi_2005]

1.07 is obsolete...1.5.0.1 is the current version.

I prefer 1.0.7

[JSLTIGER]

1.07 is obsolete...1.5.0.1 is the current version.

I prefer 1.0.7

Any particular reason you like it more? Just curious, because I upgraded at the earliest opportunity.

[kiwi_2005]

I got FF crashing with 1.5.0.1, so reinstalled ver1.0.7 and have stuck with it since last yr.

[Ramius]

I got crashing with 1.5.

It always crashed if i had 3 or more different windows open at the same time (not tabs).
But changed my options to open new window in a tab and the problem went away.
Not sure if its there with 1.5.0.1 , as i cant be bothered to change my options :rotfl:

[JSLTIGER]

I haven't had crashing with either on any of my systems. I really like 1.5.0.1 so far, it's fixed the memory leaks on my systems and its significantly faster than 1.07, at least to me.

[kiwi_2005]

Im surprised noone raves on about Opera. Ive had Opera since it first came out, the latest ver 8.51 add free. I like it better than FF & IE. its fast it doesn't crash. A good browser.

[kiwi_2005]

I can't find the reload TAB in IE7? Is there one.

[Wim Libaers]

I like using a product that is backed by the richest man in the world with enough money to throw at any problem that may arise. lol...but IE 6 still never use a beta lol...guinnea pigs. tehehehe

How do you think he became so rich?

Quality control, n.: Assuring that the quality of a product does not get out of hand and add to the cost of its manufacture or design.

[2019]

firefox all the way, everyone at my home is using firefox.
reason? it is google intergrated and a has pop-up killer. And it's not from M$ :up:
They say that firefox is a bit more secured thant ie, hmm maybe that's true.

[Spoon 11th]

I can't find the reload TAB in IE7? Is there one.
Why do you even try if you're using Opera?

[kiwi_2005]

Why do you even try if you're using Opera?

Because i use 3 browsers. Opera is one of them

[Drebbel]

Anyone knows how to set the -homepage- in IE7 ?

[kiwi_2005]

Anyone knows how to set the -homepage- in IE7 ?

Tools - Internet Options

[DangerousDaze]

It has to be IE 7 from now on I'm afraid. I now have the best of both worlds - a decent user experience (tabs, search bar, extensions, security et al) and the fact that I can access every page without having to screw around with extensions that load certain pages in an IE ActiveX control.

Nick

[Drebbel]

Anyone knows how to set the -homepage- in IE7 ?

Tools - Internet Options You mean that actually works for you ?

No go for me

Bram

[werauchimmer]

I like Lynx the best, but nowadays there are sooo much sites that can´t be displayed properly. You can alternatively try links or one of its derivatives, those even support frames!(joke)

Jokes aside: Its probably faster than all the alternatives in this poll, its free and pretty safe. Ideal for some text browsing.

Oh, forgot to add:
There are some other very interesting browsers, too.
1) Amya, W3Cs own browser. Semantic Web and truly rule conform.
http://www.w3.org/Amaya/
2)Dillo, not very much function, but only 360KB in size. (used in Damn Small Linux et cetera)
www.dillo.org
3) Just, a browser programmed in Java.

[kiwi_2005]

Drebble wrote
You mean that actually works for you ?

No go for me

Are you sure. Tools - Options, then type in the address under homepage and click Apply.

Are you getting a random homepage? Maybe check to see if it aint spyware - hijack browser.

[JapLance]

I've been using Opera for the last two or three years, and wouldn't change it for any other. Only use IE6 for those websites which are wrong-created and don't work properly with any other browser but IE.