HMS Daring launches today

[Oberon]

First of the Type 45s

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/horizon/images/Type45_2.jpg

http://www.type45.com/

[Konovalov]

Finally. I was watching the news this morning and the captain was saying that it is going to be a tight close thing in terms of her size and the Clyde but that BAE have got all the calculations right. We hope. ;)

Should be an impressive sight on the news this evening. :yep:

[Kapitan]

BBC NEWS 24 tuned in

[lesrae]

Looks like it floated then :O)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4667132.stm

[Kapitan]

at last some thing decent to replace our rusty worn out DDG's

[STEED]

Like all our new weapons it will break down sooner or latter :P :yep:

[Godalmighty83]

thats why we have the best engineers, lots of practice ;)

[Kapitan]

as i recall sea wolf or sea dart was a brand new system during the falklands and did it fail no

same with tigerfish and spearfish torpedos, not failed when they were new

[STEED]

as i recall sea wolf or sea dart was a brand new system during the falklands and did it fail no

Was it 100% British?

[Kapitan]

yes it is has not been deployed to any other nation

[STEED]

Are then it must cost a fortune and sooner or latter they will stop buying it.

[TLAM Strike]

as i recall sea wolf or sea dart was a brand new system during the falklands and did it fail no

same with tigerfish and spearfish torpedos, not failed when they were new The new Stingray ASW torp failed to kill atleast one ARA Sub (they attack two others with out sucess as well I think). AS-12s almost failed to sink her too...

A total of nine missiles were fired at the submarine trapped on the surface by anti-submarine torpedoes circling just under the hull. Of the missiles fired four hit, four missed and one failed to launch. Two of the missiles that hit the target failed to detonate on impact, instead punching a hole through the slender conning tower and exploding on the far side.

BTW the Tigerfish and Spearfish were never used in the Falklands War (did the Spearfish even exist yet?). In fact the CO of the HMS Conqueror didn't use them to sink the General Belgrano because he had doubts about their reliability.

[TLAM Strike]

yes it is has not been deployed to any other nation The Seadart is used by another nation. Ironicly its Argentina. They purchased two Type 42 DDG armed with the MK 30 Seadart twin launcher.

Also the Seawolf is used by Malaysia on its Lekiu FFGs, and by Brazil on its Type 22 FFGs.

Oh and the Tigerfish is used by Brazil and Turkey on its Type 209 SSKs.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[STEED]

The Seadart is used by another nation. Ironicly its Argentina


:rotfl:

[Kapitan]

lol spearfish is the newest torpedo in the british navy, tigerfish was on the conquorer.

i knew argentina had two type 42's but im not 100% up on british weapons

[badhat17]

but im not 100% up on british weapons


So why make this statement ?

yes it is has not been deployed to any other nation

[Kapitan]

because ive never heard anything about it ive never heard anyone say anything about british weapons being deployed abroad exception of exocet.

[badhat17]

You are taking the piss now aren't you. :-?

[Etienne]

Isn't the Exocet missile French?

http://www.answers.com/topic/exocet-2

[Oberon]

Isn't the Exocet missile French?

http://www.answers.com/topic/exocet-2

Yeah, IIRC, along with the Super-Etendards they launched them from.

[STEED]

We sell a lot of weapons around the world :doh:

[Kapitan]

acctualy exocet is joint french and british BAe systems Basildon acctualy make parts of the missile and they were deployed on british type 22 Batch 1 and i think 2 frigates

[badhat17]

Making a few parts under license in Basildon does not make exocet an Anglo-French missile.

[Kapitan]

british bought into exocet so it is anglo french just like our new carriers will be anglo french only this time france has bought into the programme as we did with the exocet.

[badhat17]

What did the UK contribute to Aerospatiale for Exocet then ?

[Kapitan]

ESD ADAC X-band monopulse active radar homing system is acctualy british although never used as we havnt developed any ASM missiles our selves for a while.

also the newer exocets have a more improved again british radar guidence systerm.

also britian is or was a sponsor for exocet in the early days and worked along side france to build them, a bit like the project horizon FFG/DDG that france and italy are building, did you know britian was to order project horizon ships also?

but later they went ahead and designed the type 45 and boy dont they look very similar.

dont have to make nothing to be part of something, like shares and stocks buy a share in a company you do squat but your money does the work

[badhat17]

britian is or was a sponsor for exocet in the early days and worked along side france to build them

Well that is news to me, your source ?

[Kapitan]

il scan a picture of my mates face if thats proof enough he works for BAe systems will that do?

also have a look at defence buget think you will find the exocet is listed down there as we still sponsor it, but you got to wait till march god dam it :damn:

[Kapitan]

and if you want to go into company credentials BAe systems share own part of aerospatiale as the ATR series of planes were part british part frence as were the later BAe 146 now avro RJ100 (think cant remember clearly)

[badhat17]

il scan a picture of my mates face if thats proof enough he works for BAe systems will that do?


Do ? For what ?

[Kapitan]

well he works for BAe aint that proof? :D mind you i just bought a new scanner and i dont fancy forcing his face through it

[badhat17]

Well I have found a single source that maintains the original development program received UK Govt funding from 1971 until release to service for the MM38 version, would be suprised if it went beyond that period as the Govt were funding the Sea Eagle program for the air launched requirement and never purchased AM39. UK funded would indeed make excocet an Anglo-French project then. I would like to see a print source though so I will have a look at the library.

[TLAM Strike]

The MBDA the makers of the Exocet are partly owned by BAe (37.5%). IIRC MBDA stands for "Matra BAE Dynamics Alenia". So it is possable that BAe does make parts of the Exocet.

http://www.finmec.com/Press.asp?prid=77

[Kapitan]

if BAe owns a share in the company this case MBDA it means they part own everything thats made, when you buy a share in a company anything they produce you own a certain percentage of

[JSLTIGER]

OK...found this on the web...thought it was hilarious

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=592

HMS Daring: First Type 45, first iPod enabled warship!

[Kapitan]

RMS ?????? our ships are called HMS

[TLAM Strike]

OK...found this on the web...thought it was hilarious

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=592

HMS Daring: First Type 45, first iPod enabled warship! Phhhhft... So... the Ohio SSBNs have a built in system that every man can access from his bunk... :roll:

[lesrae]

RMS ?????? our ships are called HMS

You don't have a monopoly on spelling mistakes mate ;)

[Linton]

With regard to the choice of weapon to sink the belgrano,I believe that it was influenced by the fact that Tigerfish was at the time an ASW weapon and hence unsuitable against a hard skinned surface asset.On the video by National Geographic looking for the wreck there is a clip of an interview with the weapon p.o. who said that he never got a tigerfish to detonate when fired on the range.Trusty MK8 did the job they were designed for against a similiar vintage vessel

[Kapitan]

yes it is true tigerfish has alot of problems back then, so yes they did use the MK8 and i have seen a MK8 torpedo in real life one of them is on board the oberon submarine Ocelot in chatham