My ugly NVIDIA sun - any idea how to fix.....

[Stary Wuj]

:roll:

I don't remember with my old Radeon 9700, but now I have
GeForce 7800 GTX, and..........first - I saw screenshots with
beautifull sun with blurry edges, my sun is very ugly, always with
hard edges, just like circle, and this is stock game sun.


I checked every important option in graphic card settings (I'm experienced user) - the same.
I have newest drivers of course......

:damn: - GeForce is reason ?

Best Regards

Stary Wuj

[Stary Wuj]

Picture :-)

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9219/uglysun6bx.th.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=uglysun6bx.jpg)

[CCIP]

I believe this is related to anti-aliasing. Try turning it off on your video card settings and see what happens.

[jumpy]

I believe this is related to anti-aliasing. Try turning it off on your video card settings and see what happens.

Yup.

yea, let there be jagged edges and all manner of repugnant fittings, that you be able to see the sun with no AA.

hehe, latest nvidia drivers (81.98 or somesuch) and still I get a button in the sky for a sun :lol: what would I rather have? nice AA on most of my textures or a propper sun glare effect?
I went for the 4xAA and the button in the sky... hey ho

[CWorth]

I have a 6600GT card and have no problems with the sun not having its glare effect with AA on.

Ever since I started running in 1280x960 using the method found here..
http://www.communitymanuals.com/shiii/index.php?title=Display_Resolution

I can run SH3 with 2x AA and still have the sun glare show up.Not sure what may have allowed the glare to be working but it is for me.

I was using diver version 81.89 but now am running beta 82.12's.

[MirabelleBenou]

I have a 6600 GT too, but no sun glare with AA.

[Stary Wuj]

Thanks to all of You, I love this community!
I will check it (at home) without AA, but I like AA (x8)

:cry:

Strange, I don't think this is bound with resolution, but,
nothing like the sun, everything is possible :D

Any other (than AA off) ideas are welcome :-)

Best Regards

Stary Wuj

[stevo33]

Its s problem with the Nvidia drivers, ATI cards are fine so I hear. It's just Nvidia cards.

All you can do is keep trying different driver versions, older ones... roll them back and see if you get the sun glow to show up with an older set of drivers. Use Driver Cleaner Pro to remove you current Nvidia drivers and just keep trying different ones untill it works.

Make sure you have the bloom effect all the way down/off, use control page down to turn it off, while this is on, the sun probably won't shine.

There is no fix for this, apart from what I have said above.

The drivers I am using are 61.77 and I get a sun glow with them. Make sure Antialiasing is turned off in you Nvidia settings.

[Stary Wuj]

Thank You Stevo.

:damn:
I prefer AA On, so, goodbye beautifull sun (glare/glow).

Thank You Nvidia very much :down:

Stary Wuj

[Stary Wuj]

QUESTION FOR MODMAKERS

Just hope :yep:

It is possible to change sun "halo" effect in any .tga file
to fix "no sun glare/glow for Nvidia with Antialiasing ON" ?
Sky, water, clouds are now much better than in stock game
because of mods. Please modmaker, just try....

A beautifull :sunny: for Nvidia users :D

Stary Wuj

[stevo33]

That's shift page up for the bloom effect, not control. My mistake.

And I just tried the new 82.12 beta drivers and now the sun don't even shine when AA is off!!! A step backwards then. No sun glare at all, never ever, period! But thats just for me with my little Fx 55 :(

Yeah thanks Nvidia, you suck!

[Stary Wuj]

So, by the way:

ACHTUNG, ATTENTION, UWAGA !!!


Dear NVIDIA card user, PLEASE, ASK NVIDIA SUPPORT
about this issue. Tell about it.
We deserve sun glare with Antialiasing :-)

Do it for Silent Hunter 3, and for Silent Hunter 4 too (probably).

-------------------

Stary Wuj

[jumpy]

Yer, big shame for Nvidia here :roll:

I'm using 6800GT 256mb with 81.98 driver.
Sun glare was there for me with no AA.

What's this 'shift pageup/down' thing?

Seems like all of this driver install/rollback thing can get a bit tedious, especially since installing the latest drivers for my nvidia card I am now experiencing instability with my dual monitors and the 'nview options' right click function. I would seem that certain webpages opened using FireFox crash my second monitor (does it every time with this page: http://snipersparadise.com/index_hq.htm ) - the screen just goes black and I loose all access to programs/shortcuts displayed on that monitor and I can't even tell the window on the taskbar to send to primary display thingy with nview options; also my nview desktop manager seems to randomly disable itself on occasion when I remedie this by re-enabling it I end up with multiple nview options flyouts on my right click menu. This also causes high cpu usage 100% hanging my machine, but since my window$ task manager appears on my second monitor it's kind of difficult to see what's doing what in the process list.
Really annoying this... can only be fixed by a reboot :damn:
I'm fairly sure this is the new driver being screwy- I uininstalled the previous display drivers correctly- as I never had this trouble with my previous drivers: 77.30.
C'mon nvidia, don't fumble the ball...

[Seeadler]

I can run SH3 with 2x AA and still have the sun glare show up.Not sure what may have allowed the glare to be working but it is for me.
Same here, I used SH3 in 1280x1024 on a TFT with a 6600GT, 6800Ultra and now with a 7800GTX and never had a problem with the sun glare, it's also visible with 2x,4x,8x AA hard settings in the driver.

But I always tweak the drivers with coolbits to gain access to the hidden functions of the ForceWare drivers

[Mick520]

I've got a 7800GTX and have no probs with the sun?????

I'm using 81.98 driver too????

[Stary Wuj]

Seeadler wrote:

"But I always tweak the drivers with coolbits to gain access to the hidden functions of the ForceWare drivers"

I have coolbits too, which hidden functions are helpfull in this case ?
Very interesting, any good idea is good :-)

Mick520 --> You must be very happy :-)
:hmm:
Mayby it is bound with different hardware too, like NForce chipset
(I have NForce4) or AMD processor :-)...... dunno, just courious...

Stary Wuj

[Txema]

Ever since I started running in 1280x960 using the method found here..
http://www.communitymanuals.com/shiii/index.php?title=Display_Resolution


Same here, I used SH3 in 1280x1024 on a TFT with a 6600GT, 6800Ultra and now with a 7800GTX and never had a problem with the sun glare, it's also visible with 2x,4x,8x AA hard settings in the driver

I think the key to get the sun glare in SH3 while using AA and Nvidia cards, is to use the dll provided in the method to change screen resolution... check it... it works !!!


Txema

[MirabelleBenou]

It tried but it doesn't work for me.

Instead, I'm playing à 1600x1200 and I think I need no more AA :)

[Stary Wuj]

It doesn't work for me too.
I just wrote to NVIDIA Support :-)

:rotfl:

naive Stary Wuj

:yep:

[Txema]

Please, try a last attempt to make it work properly.

Use the dll provided to change the screen resolution, as explained in my previous post, and then eliminate the software antialiasing by pressing "Shift+Page Down" several times. Now you should be able to see the sun glare properly.

Please, report the results here.


Txema

[sik1977]

I have 7800GTX OC. 4xAA, 16XAF, running game at 1280x1024 resolution wiuth dx9fix. No problems, here's a pic (with 81.95 drivers, now using 82.12 - The sub is a hi resolution model made by FUBAR - the Crescent is from the Hi REZ MOON Mod).

http://www.thefreeimagehosting.com/Uploads/Images/2693548437500Sub2-Edited.jpg


Also had Mobility Radeon 9700 in my precious Laptop which i used to play SH3, no problems there either ofcourse, but the higher graphics offered (AA & AF with higher reloution) by 7800 GTX make this game truely awesome to look at.

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[Stary Wuj]

Dear Txema :-)


Thank You very much.
You have a private message, check it please by the way.

Best Regards

Stary Wuj

[Jungman]

Did that fix it? :o I need to upgrade my video card, and I thought about a cheap 6800 that will run my Win 98 and ME, XP OS systems.

The new ATI are XP only. Thank you Radeon, that is just sweet. :roll:

For my older present AGP dual boot system to run legacy games.

I just wonder how much I must sacrifice SH3 to use the Nvidia 6800 card for a final upgrade to my 'multi-play' system.

[Txema]

Please, try a last attempt to make it work properly.

Use the dll provided to change the screen resolution, as explained in my previous post, and then eliminate the software antialiasing by pressing "Shift+Page Down" several times. Now you should be able to see the sun glare properly.

Please, report the results here.


Txema


Well, I actually have a GeForce 6800 and it works for me (I am using 4x AA and 8x AF and it looks great !!!)


Txema

[Stormfly]

hi guys,

this is an old and together with an higher screen-res solved problem...

here is the interisting link for your pleasure:

http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=33901&highlight=

...on the bottom of page 2 you find a post with my altered sun for this outstanding and must have solution :arrgh!:

ps: plz read of how to make it compatible with WINXP SP2 (system compability tool)

[Stary Wuj]

Thank You Stormfly :-)

I will check it tomorrow, I see it was really stupid
idea to install WinXP Service Pack 2.

:rotfl:

Stary Wuj

[Stary Wuj]

:cry:

Sun halo .tga file change nothing (both) but I will
work around, probably good idea with Sun halo changes.
I cannot use Compatibility tool, so, will try modify this
tga files with Photoshop :-)

Best Regards

Stary Wuj

[Jochem]

My config :

p4 650, Abit Ni8 SLi, 7800 GTX Flashed, 2 Go DDr2, last drivers, win2k SP4 and No problems. This games rocks in High resolution, 1280x1024 all the details parameters HIgh. Rub, and more...

[Stormfly]

:cry:

Sun halo .tga file change nothing (both) but I will
work around, probably good idea with Sun halo changes.
I cannot use Compatibility tool, so, will try modify this
tga files with Photoshop :-)

Best Regards

Stary Wuj

...use my altered halo`s only if ya use discused solution above, it is to resize that "supernova" if ya got DXres to run !

stormy

[Stary Wuj]

Thank You Stormfly, now I understand..............

:rotfl:

Stary Wuj

[kenijaru]

at least you get to see what is your U-boot over... mine..... mine floats :S damned Geforce 4 MX 4000, i guess i'll have to buy a new 1 :S :down: