Deadly Aircarft?

[uhu]

How could we make more realistic air attacks?

Maybe it is only middle 1941, and the hard times comes from late 1942, but I find very lame (LOLly), that, with my VIIC, with a single twin 20mm I shot down many planes, which are coming in waves (2-4 in one time). How could be this changed, that we really forced to make quick dive, and not to play turkey-shooting???
(I play with Rub 1.45 + HT 1.47.)

[JU_88]

I have the answers, but its not something modders can do right now with out SDK.

Have torpeedo bombers, for god sakes a Bristol beuafighter loaded with torpeedos could really make a mess of a uboat, later they were armed with rockets too, not to mention their 4 nose cannons would be able to inflict horrific damage.
You wouldnt try and take on an aircraft if it was going to drop 2 fish in your direction at short range.

they also missed out The Avro Anson and the Lockheed Hudson, which were pretty much the staple ASW aircraft of coastal command. hurricanes wouldnt have been anywhere near Uboats during the war. I hate getting attacked by 4+ sunderlands they were in short supply during the war and never flew around in big groups like that.

The same can be said for Elcos, they are pathetic flak gun fodder in the game when in reality they posed a very serious threat to Uboats, if you cant make torpeedo boats that actually launch torpeedos, whats the point in having them in the game??? :roll:

The problem is that devs put every thing in to destroyers.

The planes look horrible, they are dumb, urealistic and innefective in their attacks.

PT boats are severaly handicapped (this is very bad)

Enemy submarines are non existant! thats crazy. The north sea and the med should be crawling with them! There were many sub on uboat encounters during ww2 and at least 25 of these encounters proved to be fatal for one of the two parties involved! (Usually the Uboat)

[uhu]

You have right, but we must something find te at least make the situation better. :up:

-For the torpedoboats, there is a mod (also implemented in the HT 1.47), which gives them also heavier AA (37mm later in the war), and some lethal weapons - the "virtual torpedos", see the mod's readme.

-For planes there should be a possibility to make their DC-s do much more damage - maybe that would be also a good "motivation" to crash drive, when planes arrives... Meantime, if planes gets deadlier, their numbers should be lowered, beacuse that's also absurd, that there comes full air-flottillas...

[uhu]

Or, maybe, if every aircraft would be elite, would this help something in this cause?

[uhu]

...and give more hull for the aircrafts, to make them harder to shot down (?)

[Sailor Steve]

There is an aircraft mod already available at Terrapin's site. It reduced the number of aircraft but also makes them much more deadly. It also comes bundled with RUB.

[uhu]

There is an aircraft mod already available at Terrapin's site. It reduced the number of aircraft but also makes them much more deadly. It also comes bundled with RUB.

Hmm. Than maybe it is not enough hard? (As I said, I play with RUB. )

[HundertzehnGustav]

I have the answers, but its not something modders can do right now with out SDK.

Have torpeedo bombers, for god sakes a Bristol beuafighter loaded with torpeedos could really make a mess of a uboat, later they were armed with rockets too, not to mention their 4 nose cannons would be able to inflict horrific damage.
You wouldnt try and take on an aircraft if it was going to drop 2 fish in your direction at short range.

they also missed out The Avro Anson and the Lockheed Hudson, which were pretty much the staple ASW aircraft of coastal command. hurricanes wouldnt have been anywhere near Uboats during the war. I hate getting attacked by 4+ sunderlands they were in short supply during the war and never flew around in big groups like that.

The same can be said for Elcos, they are pathetic flak gun fodder in the game when in reality they posed a very serious threat to Uboats, if you cant make torpeedo boats that actually launch torpeedos, whats the point in having them in the game??? :roll:

The problem is that devs put every thing in to destroyers.

The planes look horrible, they are dumb, urealistic and innefective in their attacks.

PT boats are severaly handicapped (this is very bad)

Enemy submarines are non existant! thats crazy. The north sea and the med should be crawling with them! There were many sub on uboat encounters during ww2 and at least 25 of these encounters proved to be fatal for one of the two parties involved! (Usually the Uboat)

i am with the Junkers on this one

BF 110

[HundertzehnGustav]

...and give more hull for the aircrafts, to make them harder to shot down (?)

negative

i put jhust an hour ago, like 50 or 55 20mm bullets into a Hurricane

the thing wasnt even smoking... :hmm: :hulk:

Give them guns, 7.7 mm 12.5mm 20mm and 37mm
and rockets too.

ever heard of the Beaufighters and Mosquitoes with 60 pound rockets?