Interior Project

[Letum]

ok, Im gonna flex my 3dMAX skills and create a set of new sub interiors for the VIIC. Prahaps we wont find a way to use them, but prahaps SHIV or a indi-sub game can use them. So.....I would like:

A) All the photos/das boot screens/*interior bluebrints* I can get my hands on
B) In the more distant future I will need someone to do some texture work.
C) Suggestions and comments!

If anyone has interior pics of VIIC
Or Suggestions and comments, PLEASE post here
:arrgh!: Yarr

*Edit* 1940s photos are highly saught after
*edit 2* Dont post anything from u-baot.net - all redy searched it

[HEMISENT]

Sounds very ambitious and a great idea for a mod-Good Luck

[Hudsonhawk]

If you need any Das Boot pic's let me know.......i'll get some for ya.... :up: :|\

[Letum]

Cheers, I'll give you a shout when I need some

Just finished makeing some light fittings, Im really missing blueprints of the internal pressure hull, I dont wanna guess the scale.

[Ducimus]

I dunno if its useable in anyway, but i found a pretty decent picture of the aft section of a type9 control room .


http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/canada/uboats/

[Letum]

I dunno if its useable in anyway, but i found a pretty decent picture of the aft section of a type9 control room .


http://www.hazegray.org/navhist/canada/uboats/

Just what Im looking for! Thanks

I have a few blueprints now, but badly need more

[GT182]

How about doing a IX boat too Letum? The U 505 Museum in Chicago has a website showing the whole interior in color. It would be great for those of us plying the seas in our IX boats. And we'd use the mod too. ;)

http://www.msichicago.org/exhibit/U505/index.html

[Ducimus]

How about doing a IX boat too Letum? The U 505 Museum in Chicago has a website showing the whole interior in color. It would be great for those of us plying the seas in our IX boats. And we'd use the mod too. ;)

http://www.msichicago.org/exhibit/U505/index.html

You can always swap the boats interior to a type 7's as i recently rediscovered. Personnaly if he's dead serious about making what sounds like the most realistic interior modelling possible, id rather him concentrate his efforts to make one real good one.

[Letum]

How about doing a IX boat too Letum? The U 505 Museum in Chicago has a website showing the whole interior in color. It would be great for those of us plying the seas in our IX boats. And we'd use the mod too. ;)

http://www.msichicago.org/exhibit/U505/index.html

You can always swap the boats interior to a type 7's as i recently rediscovered. Personnaly if he's dead serious about making what sounds like the most realistic interior modelling possible, id rather him concentrate his efforts to make one real good one.

Yup, quite, Im only working on the VIIC (late war) at the moment.
And for the moment I am only doing the 3 compartments allredy in SHIII (command radio and tower)

Anyone seen a cross section plan of a VIIC?

[Ducimus]

Anyone seen a cross section plan of a VIIC?[/b]

Technical details beyond performance specifications are damn hard to find.

[Letum]

I noticed something odd about these plans.........
http://www.sayagain.co.uk/b3tapix/images/planstypeVIIC.jpg
Its a VIIC/41 but the pressure walls are curved (or at least drawn curved)
I havent seen this in photos before.
Anyone know what the deal is here?

[Ducimus]

Concave would be a better description. From an engineering standpoint it makes sense. A concave surface would be stronger against lateral water pressure. Same princple as an arch for a bridges if im thinking correctly.

Tour photo's such as U505's wont show this if it exists because they've cut the hatches away for easier tour access. A good picture of U-995 might help if they havent done this as well.

[Ducimus]

Heres some pics of U995, a couple control room shots in there.

http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/ships/uboats/typviic/photos.html

EDIT:
This picture in particular, it looks like its along the bulkhead seperating the forward part of the controlroom nearest the plansman from the radio/sonar room:
http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/ships/uboats/typviic/image17.html

I can't say for sure, because the enamel paint is REALLY thick but it gives the HINT of being concave .. acutally convex meaning bending outward. ( whcih would seem to match your blueprint) But that could be flash photophgrahy reflecting off the paint, if the lighting is naturall then then it could very well be slighly convex.

[Letum]

I'll save pollys and do it flat unless I fine Solid evidence that it isnt

Thanks Ducimus!

[Ducimus]

Honestly if it really is concave or convex (depending on what side of the wall your on), its probably so minor that its probably not worth the trouble of rendering. I have a hunch that it is curved, but its a very gradual and slight curve. Structurally it makes sense, and when i think about it, your not going to find it on U505 anyway, Type 9's didnt dive as deep as 7c/41's. Minor structural changes like this i think would make all the deference to these boats in the real world. But from a practical standpoint, i think its such a gradual slope of a cruve it might be real hard to render and not have it become exaggerated to view anyway. Just a guess, im no graphical artist.

[Letum]

Honestly if it really is concave or convex (depending on what side of the wall your on), its probably so minor that its probably not worth the trouble of rendering. I have a hunch that it is curved, but its a very gradual and slight curve. Structurally it makes sense, and when i think about it, your not going to find it on U505 anyway, Type 9's didnt dive as deep as 7c/41's. Minor structural changes like this i think would make all the deference to these boats in the real world. But from a practical standpoint, i think its such a gradual slope of a cruve it might be real hard to render and not have it become exaggerated to view anyway. Just a guess, im no graphical artist.

Yup, your right

[perdu]

For interior view, some one made a free video of his visit at u995 found on some networks ^^!
as promise
here is the video

http://dl-1.free.fr/52616e646f6d4956d48d58f05135aff330cd9558d9616d2e70 2e993ab928e301/u995.zip


(available for 24h )

[Sniper_1]

Just a quick note about the curved bulkheads in the Type 7's control room. They were curved slightly, becasue these two bulkheads were the only 'pressure tight' bulkheads on the boat. The 3 other bulkheads were only water tight, and this can be seen by the fact that these bulkheads (between the forward battery compartment and the bow room, between the after battery compartment and the diesel engine room and between the diesel engine room and the electric motor room) are 1. 'straight' i.e vertical and 2. have large rectangular hatches. The two curved bulkheads at either end of the control room have small circular hatches, to better resist water pressure. Up till recently pressure tight bulkheads have often been slighlty curved (it gives greater strength without needing the heavy reinforcement and scantlings a straight bulkhead would require). Soviet SSK designs up to the Kilo had curved pressure tight bulkheads AFAIK.

Sniper_1

[GT182]

Perdu, IE says link not valid for the video. It could be just me tho.

Ducimus, Letum.... I forgot about being able to change the file names so they'll work with other boats interiors. Sorry about that.

[perdu]

well i tried just now ( with opera) and it worked O_o

[Letum]

isnt wiorking for me

[perdu]

i will search an other way because if i put a url at home my connection will be illed by downloads lol

[ref]

You may wan´t to check this.

http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=cws004

[Ducimus]

Looking at all the pictures posted, as compared to whats ingame, anyone else notice that, with the exception of the XXI control room, the lack of periscope wells in the default interiors? At the least, in reguards to the type 7. I think the type 9 interior has one, but its rather small.

[2019]

For some fine info about this sub, you might want to contact some indie developers your self, they both have been trying to make a VIIC sim.
I'm sure they have tons of info that you will find usefull.

http://web.telia.com/~u51008935/VIIC/The_VIIc_project.html

http://www.mp-labs.com/r1l/

Good luck!

[Ducimus]

Hey i think i found something.

http://www.9teuflottille.de/index2.html

Go to "wissen" and then "bootesplan".

DOWNLOADABLE BLUEPRINTS!!

Individual links:
http://www.9teuflottille.de/site/lexikon/boote/typ_viib_l.html
http://www.9teuflottille.de/site/lexikon/boote/typ_viib_g.html
http://www.9teuflottille.de/site/lexikon/boote/typ_viic_g1.html
http://www.9teuflottille.de/site/lexikon/boote/typ_viic_g2.html
http://www.9teuflottille.de/site/lexikon/boote/typ_viid_g.html
http://www.9teuflottille.de/site/lexikon/boote/typ_ixd2_g.html
http://www.9teuflottille.de/site/lexikon/boote/typ_xxi_g.html

[VON_CAPO]

ok, Im gonna flex my 3dMAX skills and create a set of new sub interiors for the VIIC. Prahaps we wont find a way to use them, but prahaps SHIV or a indi-sub game can use them. So.....I would like:

A) All the photos/das boot screens/*interior bluebrints* I can get my hands on
B) In the more distant future I will need someone to do some texture work.
C) Suggestions and comments!

If anyone has interior pics of VIIC
Or Suggestions and comments, PLEASE post here

I hope these would be helpful for you.

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/3287/planstypxivmilkcow4zf.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=planstypxivmilkcow4zf.jpg) http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/9397/planstypeii3zs.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=planstypeii3zs.jpg) http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/1594/type9bgermanprewwiisubmarine19.th.gif (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=type9bgermanprewwiisubmarine19.gif)

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/7334/typeviic6xj.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=typeviic6xj.jpg) http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/104/u47planstypeviibgermanwwiisubm.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=u47planstypeviibgermanwwiisubm.jpg)

[VON_CAPO]

Check here --> http://www.dreadnoughtproject.org/ , there is many original plans.
Good luck.

[Hunterbear]

Hi Letum,

If you're still looking for a cross section plan for the Type VIIC, see if this is what you need.

Type VIIC (1944)
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/3166/typeviiccrosssection4kg.jpg

Here's the link if the pic above didn't show
http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/3166/typeviiccrosssection4kg.jpg

This was just a quick photo I shot with my digital camera so the quality is low just for display only. If you need it, I can scan it and post a link.

I have a few more plans for the Type VIIC (1944).

Happy modelling!
:arrgh!:

[Letum]

Im good for plans thanks. I have had a very genorus donation of high detail plans :D
Thanks anyway

[Ducimus]

How comes your work in progress anyway Letum?

Im curious if your having any luck in your endeavor as so far.

[Letum]

nothing screenshot worthy, but I have 60% of the wall that the Chief Engeneer stands in front of in SHII done

[Hunterbear]

Hi Letum,

I was just browsing around the net and came across this site

http://www.prinzeugen.com/

Down on the page it has an upcoming inside tour of a Type VII. Maybe just something to bookmark and check later on if they get it online.

:arrgh!:

[kapitan_zur_see]

all sounding good

I'm myself also working on an interior for the type IX but...
Has anyone been able to read any interior files in pack3D?? :damn:
i personnaly can't so i just can't progress on that project.

Any help?