Marhkimov's Ocean MADNESS v2 [Archive] - SUBSIM Radio Room Forums

Marhkimov

12-11-05, 02:01 PM

BIG thanks to TimeTraveller for providing me with the modding tools that never allow me to sleep. THANK YOU! :D

So with that being said...

Here are my newest environment colors. I've made extensive tests and changes, over months and months of time... I made sure that the sky and the sea mix together seamlessly at the horizon, that the underwater colors are just right, and that the colors reflect perfectly off of the u-boat and the surroundings. And many more color tweeks that I can't even remember!

NOTE: I have not changed underwater visibility.

Atlantic water is bleak and PALE BLUE. It matches well with the skies, which I have made a little brighter, but I have still retained the overall "greyish" look of the Atlantic.
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1637/15cj.jpg

Arctic water is BLUE BLUE BLUE. It looks like it is freeezing cold. The skies glow brightly during the day and have a neon purple glaze during sunset/sunrise. It gives it a "fresh air" effect.
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a172/hockeemaster/Ocean%20Mod/b9bdfb3a.jpg

Med water is TURQUOISE to GREEN. It looks a lot like tropical water, similar to Hawaii, the Caribbean, and well, the Mediterranean of course! A native of the La Spezia area has told me that the colors are spot-on perfect.
http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/3224/1blank0fx.jpg
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9039/39lm1.jpg

And due to my experience with light-night mod, I can make it so that the nights are a tiny bit brighter. So that you can finally SEE!!!

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7756/29ju.th.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=29ju.jpg) http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9190/12uz.th.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=12uz.jpg)

Available at terrapin's site, in the mods section:
http://www.u-boot.realsimulation.com/
or
http://rapidshare.de/files/9028650/Marhks_Ocean_MADNESS_v2.7z.html

Marhks_Ocean_MADNESS_v2

B1989N

12-11-05, 02:23 PM

Looks awesome!!! Would love to try it. :up:

chris911

12-11-05, 02:28 PM

Very nice colours, would like to give them a try ,too.

Marhkimov

12-11-05, 02:34 PM

Could someone post these IUB files for me? I need to make them work with my colors, but I don't want to download the entire 200mb just for these files...

SkyColors_Arct.dat
SkyColors_Atl.dat
SkyColors_Med.dat

P.S. just make 100% sure that they are from IUB.

timetraveller

12-11-05, 03:09 PM

You are da man, marhkimov :up: :up: :up:

Love the ocean colors (especially the Med), and the lighter night.

Thanks, mate!

TT

And wait till you boys see this guy's smoke!! :D

Marhkimov

12-11-05, 03:13 PM

LOL! I was a non-smoker, but TT made me start... :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Scire

12-11-05, 03:51 PM

Hi Marhkimov

check your PM's :up:

Hackett

12-11-05, 03:56 PM

I'll take a copy in 16km please!

:|\

If no one else can provide a more direct means to provide the files you need. Send me your email address, and i'll send them to you.

gdogghenrikson

12-11-05, 04:41 PM

I'll take a copy in 16km please!

me too

Marhkimov

12-11-05, 05:15 PM

Is IUB 16km or 8km?

I won't need someone to post the IUB Env files, as long as I know which settings IUB uses...

Shigawire

12-11-05, 05:22 PM

excellent colors

is it possible to map the lightness of the night depending on whether it's overcast or not? I was thinking that if it's overcast AND night, you would actually get zero visibility. Complete darkness.

But with the moon and starlight, you could get a little.
I would tone down the lighter nightlight.. and if possible make it so that the overcast nightlight is almost completely dark.

Marhkimov

12-11-05, 05:32 PM

Oh s*h*i*t (excuse me)... Now that you mention it, I think that is possible. I can do it, but that would take some more time.. Hmm... :hmm:

That is an awesome idea, I totally overlooked it...

But I'm not sure... It could be somewhat possible; I'd have to test it and make a few (or many) tweeks...

Marhkimov

12-11-05, 05:48 PM

Ok, on second thought, it can't be done as I initially thought it could.

The lighting of the night sky is determined by a single color palette, and SH3 uses that single palette for every nighttime condition, regardless of clear, cloudy, or stormy skies.

Which is really unfortunate, because there are many different color palettes for daytime lighting. And that allows for many combinations of lighting. There is lighting for when it is clear, for when it is cloudy, for when it is cloudy but the sun is visible, for when it is cloudy and the sun is hidden, for when it is dusk or dawn, for when it is twilight between dusk, dawn, and nighttime, and when it is stormy in overcast.

The devs went through that much trouble to model the daytime in SH3, but they only left one condition for night... black... :shifty:

They really should have hired the Microsoft Flight Sim weather team... Those guys know how to cook up a storm. :D

Sheppard

12-11-05, 06:02 PM

I'll take one in stock SH3 format!

Marhkimov

12-11-05, 06:17 PM

ok, stock will work with 8km/RUb/stock Env settings. They all use the same files.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but IUB uses 16km, so it will work with 16km/IUB Env settings.

I'm even going to update the SH3Cmdr_Med_Seawater_Fix in this newest mod "thing"... whatever you want to call it... ;)

Soviet_Warlord

12-11-05, 06:23 PM

I'll take one in stock SH3 format!

I second that!

Marhkimov

12-11-05, 07:13 PM

Can anyone confirm if IUB is 16km or 8km?

iambecomelife

12-11-05, 07:32 PM

I'll take one in stock SH3 format!

I second that!

Same here.

Marhkimov

12-11-05, 07:44 PM

I didn't think it was possible, but I made further improvements to the LIGHT NIGHT sky. :D

Now, you can have LIGHT NIGHTS THAT FADE! Blue on the horizon, and it gets darker as you look up (concept borrowed from Rubini). These shots are from the 8km/RUb/stock mod, so there you can see the dark horizon line. 16km/IUB will not have a horizon line.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7756/29ju.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9190/12uz.jpg

Dowly

12-11-05, 08:07 PM

That darker horizon thing is just beautiful... beautifuuuuul *drool*

Marhkimov

12-11-05, 08:12 PM

I used to dislike horizon line because sometimes it was looked too dark compared to the color of the sky... But that was before I found out that I could change its color. So I fixed 'em by making the gradation more gradual, and now it's as good as ever!

I love the horizon line.

But with or without it, I still think the sky looks damn fine... :)

irish1958

12-11-05, 09:56 PM

Could I get your settings for RUB 1.45 and IuB 1.02 with the 8km mod?
Still better, could you and JScones get toether and include it in the new SH3CMDR? I know he is planning to include the Med water. Perhaps he could include the sky also. I haven't been able to get the water and night sky to work; it would be great the have these options in the CMDR
irish1958

Marhkimov

12-11-05, 10:12 PM

Could I get your settings for RUB 1.45 and IuB 1.02 with the 8km mod?
Yes, you can use 8km settings with RUb1.45. After all, RUb works on the 8km scale.

But no, you cannot use 8km settings with IUB. IUB uses files which are on the 16km scale, and I would have to make many changes in order to convert IUB to the 8km scale.

Still better, could you and JScones get toether and include it in the new SH3CMDR? I know he is planning to include the Med water. Perhaps he could include the sky also. I haven't been able to get the water and night sky to work; it would be great the have these options in the CMDR
irish1958
I already asked. :up:

baxter

12-11-05, 10:48 PM

They are outstanding! Glad to hear they will be included in the next SH3 Commander.

Marhkimov

12-12-05, 12:24 AM

I just uploaded it to terrapin's site... Marhks_Ocean_MADNESS_v1

It even comes with some BONUS surprises! :up:

I wonder what they could be?? :roll:
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5974/23zq.jpg

Ducimus

12-12-05, 12:35 AM

Whats the file called, so we know what to D/L?

Marhkimov

12-12-05, 12:40 AM

Posts edited... But here it is anyways:

Marhks_Ocean_MADNESS_v1

You'll have to wait for terrapin, though... Patience... ;)

Ducimus

12-12-05, 12:57 AM

Posts edited... But here it is anyways:

Marhks_Ocean_MADNESS_v1

You'll have to wait for terrapin, though... Patience... ;)

They screenshots look awesome, i can't way to try em out!

Marhkimov

12-12-05, 01:31 AM

I just tested my color mod... hehe, good thing it works... :cool:

So I thought I would tease everyone with some more screenies...

Midnight Moonlight
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5944/18xq1.jpg

Medit Morning
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6977/26ck1.jpg

Stale Storm
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/37/37pk.jpg

The Avon Lady

12-12-05, 02:14 AM

I have uploaded it to terrapin's site:
http://www.u-boot.realsimulation.com/

Marhks_Ocean_MADNESS_v1
Waiting... :damn:

Looks great! Thanks for another great mod! :up: :up:

gdogghenrikson

12-12-05, 02:16 AM

looks great, can't wait

Marhkimov

12-12-05, 02:23 AM

temporarily removed...

Marhkimov

12-12-05, 04:31 AM

So any impressions? Likes or dislikes?

The Avon Lady

12-12-05, 05:03 AM

So any impressions? Likes or dislikes?
I'll have to finish my current patrol before I install this.

IMO the Med water looks too tropical.

Marhkimov

12-12-05, 05:05 AM

WAIT, NO ONE INSTALL IT YET!

I botched something in the install... I have to make a few tests..

Geez, and I was so meticulous about everything... :damn:

Marhkimov

12-12-05, 05:36 AM

Ok, file fixed... If you already downloaded and installed v1, you're SCREWED.

LOL jk :rotfl: :rotfl:

Download and install v2 and everything should be fine. :up:

up at terrapin's site: http://www.u-boot.realsimulation.com/
Marhks_Ocean_MADNESS_v2

Martin1813

12-12-05, 05:53 AM

:up: thanks a lot :arrgh!:

Hudsonhawk

12-12-05, 05:55 AM

Can't wait to try..... :up: ....Maybe i'll call in Sick today.... :hmm: :hmm: :hmm:

Marhkimov

12-12-05, 05:56 AM

timetraveller

12-12-05, 06:27 AM

timetraveller, rubbing hands together, salivating, can't wait to hit the download button :up: :up: :up:

Thanks marhkimov!

The Avon Lady

12-12-05, 06:53 AM

IMO the Med water looks too tropical.
Scirè, a native of the La Spezia area, said that the real med colors are exactly like my colors. Scirè is a also a frogman of the (Italian?) Navy, so he has a lot of experience with the real Mediterranean water...

But even so, you're free to have your opinions. :yep:
There are areas where those blue waters exist in the med. Look around the Greek Isles, for example.

But on the average, especially in deep mid-med waters, where chances are most SH3 players wind up in Flotilla 29 missions, this doesn't appear to be so.

Marhkimov

12-12-05, 07:11 AM

Stary Wuj

12-12-05, 10:54 AM

HundertzehnGustav

12-12-05, 11:46 AM

I'll take a copy in 16km please!

Hey me too

M`mov... IUB is Must imho
give it a shot.

HundertzehnGustav

12-12-05, 11:47 AM

Dear Marhkimov, great job !!!

Sorry, hard to say with my english :-) but I have a question,
it is working with campaign automatically ?
If not, is there something to do ?
Your newest Medditeranean fix is included ?

Sorry, I have no time to read all posts, propably stupid questions.

Best Regards and Fette beute :-)

Stary Wuj
Stary: this always works in sh 3: Multiplayer, single mission, capaign :up:

The Avon Lady

12-12-05, 12:06 PM

Stary Wuj

12-12-05, 06:34 PM

Thank You very much.

I thought about this problem, describe by Marhkimov:

"However, I must stress that it is a VERY MINOR problem, indeed. If you begin in the Med and sail out into the Atlantic, you will still see Med seawater, and vice versa. Which is no big deal, since you should NEVER leave the Mediterranean if you are in the 29th flotilla... And similarly, you should NEVER enter the Mediterranean if you are based in the Atlantic."

So........

Stary Wuj

Scire

12-12-05, 06:39 PM

There are areas where those blue waters exist in the med. Look around the Greek Isles, for example.

But on the average, especially in deep mid-med waters, where chances are most SH3 players wind up in Flotilla 29 missions, this doesn't appear to be so.

Yeah, I think you are right Avon Lady... *sigh*

More tweeking... :dead: :dead: :dead:

Not so true.
Despite a high deeps areas in Mar ionio (Matapan abiss - 5092 mteters between south Italy and Greek islands) and the middle of the Tirrenian (-3000 meters in center of Med) the mediterranean have a middle deep around 1000 meters.
Note that the most part of the U Boat action was conducted in the Sicialian channel (between Sicilia and North Africa, around the strategical base of Malta) where the max deep is around 300 meters with minimum level of 20/40 meters in front of the Egypt, Libya and Tunisia shoreline (where most of the convoy was attacked) Even the gibraltar straits have a max deep of 300 mt.
Btw. the greenish aspect of med even in the middle deep areas is due to the great amount of Posidonia a sea plant that live only in the med and grow in form of a real and very extended green.
So we can stat that the blue deep area represent a very minor aspect of the Mediterranean palette.

Marhkimov

12-12-05, 06:42 PM

Oh, thank you Scirè. I guess we learn something everyday... :)

So Scirè, you're a frogman, right?

Marhkimov

12-12-05, 06:52 PM

M`mov... IUB is Must imho
give it a shot.

Hehe, I know...

The funny thing is, I downloaded IUB1.02, but when I was comparing my current files with IUB (which is what I always do before I install anything), I realized that I already had most of what IUB had.

So in a way, you can say that I AM using IUB... ;)

Scire

12-12-05, 07:01 PM

Oh, thank you Scirè. I guess we learn something everyday... :)

So Scirè, you're a frogman, right?

Yes i served as para/scuba raider (frogman) Leutnant of the GOI / COMSUBIN of the italian Navy special forces command. Actually, by last month i'm descharge with honour after 15 years of service.
More time to play SH3 now!! :D (And my wife is more happy too...!)

p.s. :check your PM :up:

Marhkimov

12-12-05, 07:07 PM

Thanks Scirè,

Now I will know EVERYTHING about the Mediterranean and the Black Sea. :D :up:

Hartmann

12-12-05, 07:24 PM

IMO the Med water looks too tropical.
Scirè, a native of the La Spezia area, said that the real med colors are exactly like my colors. Scirè is a also a frogman of the (Italian?) Navy, so he has a lot of experience with the real Mediterranean water...

But even so, you're free to have your opinions. :yep:

I live in the mediterranean shore and the colours are very acurate, perhaps not too diferent of the spezia waters and the screenshots..

Great screenies marhkimov :up:

I don´t remember see any moon reflection in the game...
except for the uzo and periscope views :88) :stare: :huh: :o

this screen is the free camera ??? :o

great work

Marhkimov

12-12-05, 07:32 PM

I don´t remember see any moon reflection in the game...
except for the uzo and periscope views :88) :stare: :huh: :o

this screen is the free camera ??? :o

Actually, this is my personal freecam.

But CCIP's settings are similar. You can download it at terrapin's site in the mods section.
CameraMod_v2.0.zip

Download it and install the FOV low version. I'm pretty sure that the moon will show up in freecam...

Cheers!
Marhkimov.

Redwine

12-12-05, 08:06 PM

I just tested my color mod... hehe, good thing it works... :cool:

Medit Morning
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6977/26ck1.jpg

I like this one..... very beautiful.

Thanks for job ! :up:

Panama Red

12-12-05, 11:15 PM

So is this mod a 8 km or 16 km mod ??? Because I use 16 km in SH3.

CWorth

12-12-05, 11:42 PM

So is this mod a 8 km or 16 km mod ??? Because I use 16 km in SH3.

It has files for both 8km and 16km.

Marhkimov

12-13-05, 01:24 AM

So is this mod a 8 km or 16 km mod ??? Because I use 16 km in SH3.

It has files for both 8km and 16km.

Yep, just download it, and pick the one that says 16km, and install that one. Disregard the 8km version.

HundertzehnGustav

12-13-05, 10:50 AM

@ m`mov

Dude you do yome serious customer Care... :D

Marhkimov

12-13-05, 01:08 PM

@ m`mov

Dude you do yome serious customer Care... :D

What can I say? I like helping people. ;)

Marhkimov

12-13-05, 01:29 PM

Regarding the "bright" Med waters...

If anyone thinks that the water is too bright, I urge you to ride in it for a while. Try "Malta" Single Mission or a Med campaign. It will look different if you see it in motion, as opposed to my bright screenshots.

At first I was thinking the same thing: WAAAY too bright...

But after I adjusted to the feeling of blue and green-ness, everything panned out quite nicely. The Med certainly does give quite a different feeling of atmosphere than the Atlantic.

You will love it! :up:

Panama Red

12-14-05, 04:45 AM

marhkimov:
Thank you, thank you, thank you, your new particle smoke is beautiful. I just tried it on my latest patrol yesterday and my last victim thankfully cooperated by burning for 15 minutes before I had put my last fish into her so I could go home and eat.

You are correct in the aspect that your particle smoke is also very FPS friendly too. Thanks for all the improvements you have done for this great game. :up: :up: :up:

Dowly

12-14-05, 05:45 AM

Thanks Marhkimov for the great mod! I love the new Med water! :up:

Haven´t tried the supersmoke yet as my fps is ~10 even without it. :D

Marhkimov

12-14-05, 05:48 AM

Haven´t tried the supersmoke yet as my fps is ~10 even without it. :D

Try it... your FPS might be ~20 :lol:

i'm not kidding, it's very FPS friendly.

HEMISENT

12-14-05, 07:09 AM

Thanks Marhkimov
Just downloaded-I use RUB + 16km which version will work as they're seperated RUB/8km & IUB/16km.
Thanks again your screens look great.

Marhkimov

12-14-05, 07:33 AM

Well, that's a first... I didn't know you could use both...

You would most likely use the 16km version, since you probably installed 16km atmosphere mod over RUb.

EDIT: :lol: hehehe, I forgot... I use IUB, RUb, and Atmosphere 8km.

Panama Red

12-14-05, 07:50 AM

I too use RUb 1.45 and a custom 16 km version. You just have to load a separate 16 km mod AFTER you install RUb 1.45.

Once IUB gets updated to include all the new features of RUb 1.45, I will go back to using IUB again (but still using my custom 16 km mod).

Axlwolf

12-14-05, 08:42 AM

It doesn't work for me.I don't understand...
I've put the file manually,since i dont have the mod installer,but the sea it's still blue... :cry:

The smoke mod seems too work

EDIT:i've started a new campaign in the Med...doesnt work
I have other five career,but im at base before the mission
Any idea?

The Avon Lady

12-14-05, 08:54 AM

i dont have the mod installer
And why is that? :-?

Axlwolf

12-14-05, 09:03 AM

Simple,i like to understand better the file structure.It helped me some time ago to repair some damage that i've done to my SH3 installation...and i have too many mod installed or tweak made by me to start messing around with an installer now...maybe when i will be forced to reinstall :roll:

Marhkimov

12-14-05, 12:35 PM

It doesn't work for me.I don't understand...
I've put the file manually,since i dont have the mod installer,but the sea it's still blue... :cry:
You might not notice the color change if you are playing in the Atlantic. After all, I made subtle changes, since the original colors were already pretty good. However, if you want to know what major changes I made to the Atlantic, I made the daytime sky a little brighter and the underwater a little darker. Plus the nighttime skies should be noticably lighter.

EDIT:i've started a new campaign in the Med...doesnt work
I have other five career,but im at base before the mission
Any idea?
Here's the part where you have to be using SH3Cmdr in order to fix this. Are you using it? Well, if you ever decide to install SH3Cmdr, just install my Med water fix2, which was included in the download pack.

Axlwolf

12-14-05, 03:08 PM

I was using it...then i discovered he changed the draft of some ship in the recognition manual without changing the in-game ship draft,i promptly uninstalled.
And beside...i've changed by myself the underwater appearance(using SH3 MiniTweaker)and i'm sure it's still the same.
Im starting to think that i need to reinstall the sim from scratch.Its 6 months old,afterall,and i've ALWAIS tweaked and messed everything :-?
It's one of the thing that i hate...reinstall :(

Marhkimov

12-14-05, 04:20 PM

Dowly

12-14-05, 04:37 PM

Marhkimov, I like the supersmoke! No drop in fps! :up:

Marhkimov

12-14-05, 04:40 PM

hehe, thanks. Next comes super fire, super oil spills, and super torpedo blasts! :lol: :lol: :lol:

and +10 FPS! :up:

irish1958

12-14-05, 06:45 PM

I love the mod, but all I get is clear cloudless skies. How does messing with the water screw up to weather? My uboat is stuck in the Sahara.
irish1958

Marhkimov

12-14-05, 06:51 PM

Either you are running a streak of good luck, in which case you should be rejoicing instead of complaining... ;)

Or you installed the wrong version... Which would bring up the obvious question:

What kind of SH3 do you run and which water mod did you install?

chris911

12-14-05, 07:20 PM

Super tropedo Blast :
http://www.radiochemistry.org/history/nuke_tests/crossroads/Baker2.jpg

Dowly

12-14-05, 07:57 PM

Super tropedo Blast :
http://www.radiochemistry.org/history/nuke_tests/crossroads/Baker2.jpg

Nope, it´s just Bernard, pushing the buttons again. :nope:

Marhkimov

12-14-05, 07:59 PM

What? They put Bernard in charge of the Manhattan Project??!

Uh-oh.... :huh:

Soviet_Warlord

12-14-05, 11:17 PM

hehe, thanks. Next comes super fire, super oil spills, and super torpedo blasts! :lol: :lol: :lol:

and +10 FPS! :up:

yay! For the explosion effects above water (such as torpedo blast and depth charge splash) could you make it seem more natural in a way that the water gets violently thrown upwards, but doesn't hit a wall and come straight back down (most apparent in the depth charge explosion effect). It seems as though the water hits a wall, and doesn't go high enough. I don't know, the stock version just doesn't look normal :(

irish1958

12-14-05, 11:29 PM

I have a fresh install of SHIII, patch1.4, RUB1.45, Marhkimov's water madness for RUB and his smoke mod. Endless days of bright sunshine off the coast of Italy in December 1941.
I'll keep playing; perhaps it is oney great weather.
Irish1958

irish1958

12-15-05, 12:39 AM

Clouds and sky are back. It looks natural for the Atlantic is Dec.
I guess I just had a streak of good weather.
This is a terrific and realistic mod. Thanks
irish1958

Marhkimov

12-15-05, 01:36 AM

Oh good. I'm glad it works. :D

Marhkimov

12-15-05, 03:55 AM

yay! For the explosion effects above water (such as torpedo blast and depth charge splash) could you make it seem more natural in a way that the water gets violently thrown upwards, but doesn't hit a wall and come straight back down (most apparent in the depth charge explosion effect). It seems as though the water hits a wall, and doesn't go high enough. I don't know, the stock version just doesn't look normal :(

I was playing a few test missions and I just noticed that. The water goes up, and just stops dead in mid-air. Very weird indeed.

TT has just released some new particles rules, but it definately looks a lot more complicated than the smoke rules... Particle tweeking is very painstakingly difficult.

Camaero

12-15-05, 06:01 AM

Thanks for these! They look great!

Axlwolf

12-15-05, 10:35 AM

The smoke works for me...and well too :-?
But not the rest :lol:
it's that the strange thing.

Hartmann

12-15-05, 10:19 PM

Clouds and sky are back. It looks natural for the Atlantic is Dec.
I guess I just had a streak of good weather.
This is a terrific and realistic mod. Thanks
irish1958

there are storm clouds or overcast clouds ?? :hmm:

irish1958

12-15-05, 10:48 PM

I started a new cruise from St. Lorient under clear and sunny skies for about thre days. It then became partly cloudy, then overcast, and then stormy. I haven't observed fog as yet tho.
irish1958

Deimos01

12-16-05, 09:00 AM

Excellent! :up: :up: :up:

This one really cleared up my only remaining issues. I can now turn my monitor brightness down to tollerable levels and still see at night AND clouds too. :rock:

GREAT work man!

Kpt. Lehmann

12-16-05, 12:59 PM

Marhkimov.... DUDE!!!! THIS IS THE STUFF!!!!

Three thumbs up! :up: :up: :up:

Hartmann

12-16-05, 09:40 PM

i just downloaded the mod ... what version i have to install ?? :oops:

i have 1.4 b +rub 1.44 +16 km mod.(Atmosphere Mod 16km version 2.0 LIGHT)

the readme say that there are two options

Rub 8 km , and 16 km , IUB :hmm: :hmm:

thanks

Marhkimov

12-16-05, 09:40 PM

install the 16km version.

enjoy!

Hartmann

12-16-05, 09:58 PM

install the 16km version.

enjoy! :up:

Over the 16 km mod ??

:roll:

Marhkimov

12-16-05, 10:05 PM

install the 16km version.

enjoy! :up:

Over the 16 km mod ??

:roll:

Yes. In this case, it doesn't matter that you are using RUb. You are essentially using the 16km atmosphere mod, so it would only be natural for you to install the 16km version.

Hartmann

12-17-05, 11:32 AM

Installed and running :up:

First i thougt that it was too bright, but then i remember that the gamma correction was for the previous mod, i tunned down the gamma and now is the most realistic view i´ve ever seen at night.

:up: :up:

Great work !

strelnikov

12-18-05, 07:13 PM

Marhkimov -->

at the begining - BIG :sunny: thanks for your mods!!! But I have a one question: it is possible to change 16km mod to eg. 12km mod? I am asking because I have less than 25 FPS with 16km mod in the harbor or close to land areas. 16km mod v2.0 is perfect for eye but hard for 3D card (I have radeon 850X PE with 256 Mb of RAM) - it is why I am looking for any solutions;)

Marhkimov

12-18-05, 08:17 PM

Hi strelnikov,

I used to run 16km mod and also had the same problem as you. And note that my system has an ATI radeon 9800pro and 1gb ram; above average specs, if you ask me... But fps was still poor nearby land and in port. I got really tired of 20fps, so I installed 8km mod and all is well again.

So before you contemplate about 12km, I recommend switching to 8km. It's not as bad as you might think...

strelnikov

12-18-05, 10:58 PM

Hello Marhkimov!
Thanks for fast answer! Of course I have tested 8km mod - all is ok but I have a one fatal problem with opacity, fog and lighting values under water. In other words fog is to close to my u-boat - it can be OK on the deep sea but in a shallow waters I have a fatal contrast with sea bottom level and water opacity (eg. when sea is not deeper than 25-40 meters).
I have changed your 8km mod scene.dat file (in hex editor I have replaced values of offset 03DC to orginal --> 80 C0 00 00 90 41) because I was simply unhappy that new scene.dat (8 or 16 km) reduced the sightrange to almost nil, so I decided to change it back to orginal. But it doesn't work with 8 km mod, only with 16km. It is why I have asked about 12km mod or how to do it;)

Marhkimov

12-18-05, 11:06 PM

Have you tried using TT's mini tweeker tool? You can easily change the fog factors from there.

The value is called "UnderwaterFogEnd". Just change it to a value between 12 and 20 for high underwater visibility.

strelnikov

12-18-05, 11:18 PM

Marhkimov -->

Sorry for problems but I have an other idea - it will be possible to mix : underwater values from 16km mod with sea /sky /sun lighting, colour, reflections and fog distance values taken from 8km mod?

strelnikov

12-18-05, 11:21 PM

Marhkimov-->

wow - you are a fast one;))) thanks again! I have not used miniTTtweaker (I have find info about correct hex value on the forum;) but I will try !!!

Redwine

12-19-05, 09:27 AM

Haven´t tried the supersmoke yet as my fps is ~10 even without it. :D

Try it... your FPS might be ~20 :lol:

i'm not kidding, it's very FPS friendly.

Hi Marhkimov..... it is hard to follow the line of all mods, we need a 48 hours day !! :rotfl:

Let me know.....

1]
You included the enhanced smoke into this mod ?

2]
If yes..... do you have the smoke mod separtelly ?

And did you made a manual editing guide ?

Can you made a guide ? If you dont remember all the changes, no problem, just make a list with all settings present in the mod....... i made that for the Depth Charges FX to compatibilize with other mods.

There are many persons working to mod particles file, we need to do a manual editing guide with each mod.... :up:

I am working now in to increase the tracer shells, it works very fine, i am able to fix my aiming visually...... i am thinking in to NOT make a mod, only a manual editing guide...... is more simple.

3]
If i use your ocean files, can i replace the night texture zone to maintain my clear night vision.
I fight a lot with that i dont want to lose my night vision.

Marhkimov

12-19-05, 11:00 AM

1]
You included the enhanced smoke into this mod ?
Yep. I kinda threw it in as an extra bonus mod, because I wasn't sure it qualified as its own seperate mod. I want to edit more particles, first.

2]
If yes..... do you have the smoke mod separtelly ?
nope, but the ocean madness is not a very large mod... If you want, you can just download it for the smoke alone.

And did you made a manual editing guide ?

Can you made a guide ? If you dont remember all the changes, no problem, just make a list with all settings present in the mod....... i made that for the Depth Charges FX to compatibilize with other mods.

There are many persons working to mod particles file, we need to do a manual editing guide with each mod.... :up:

I am working now in to increase the tracer shells, it works very fine, i am able to fix my aiming visually...... i am thinking in to NOT make a mod, only a manual editing guide...... is more simple.
I thought about making a manual editing guide, but I figured that not many casual players would use it. There are a lot of changes that are needed to be made; it's pretty boring...

But I did write all of my settings down in a notebook. I guess I can type them out if you really want me to.

3]
If i use your ocean files, can i replace the night texture zone to maintain my clear night vision.
I fight a lot with that i dont want to lose my night vision.
Yeah, sure. You can replace my night texture zone with your own. I don't mind.

Redwine

12-19-05, 11:34 AM

And did you made a manual editing guide ?

Can you made a guide ? If you dont remember all the changes, no problem, just make a list with all settings present in the mod....... i made that for the Depth Charges FX to compatibilize with other mods.

There are many persons working to mod particles file, we need to do a manual editing guide with each mod.... :up:

I am working now in to increase the tracer shells, it works very fine, i am able to fix my aiming visually...... i am thinking in to NOT make a mod, only a manual editing guide...... is more simple.

I thought about making a manual editing guide, but I figured that not many casual players would use it. There are a lot of changes that are needed to be made; it's pretty boring...

But I did write all of my settings down in a notebook. I guess I can type them out if you really want me to.

I dont agree, a manual editing guide is a need. To edit, using TT's Mini Tweaker is so easy.

If not, people will be enforced to choice between one mod or another.......

I agree to make the guide is boring, because copy and paste is not admited by TT's Mini Tweaker........but when it is done, to edit the file is so quickly and easy, no more than a few minutes and done !

:up:

strelnikov

12-19-05, 04:40 PM

Marhkimov-->

THANKS FOR HELP!! IT IS A PERFECT TOOL - currently I am testing all fog (air and underwater) values.

U-214

12-20-05, 04:17 PM

Thank you for the very nice mod.My eyes aren't as good as when i was a boy and i can finally SEE in the night without sticking my face to the monitor!

Thank you!

ssimon

12-22-05, 05:06 PM

Hi,

I was trying to download this mod, but can't seem to find the library section on the uboot.realsimulation.com site. Is this sctiuon removed or is it just that I am blind ? I know I dld from this site before.

Is there any other site hosting this mod ? Thx for your help.

saludos MStich

stevo33

12-22-05, 10:36 PM

Yeah same here, its a crap site, cant find a damn thing.

stevo33

12-22-05, 11:02 PM

Marhkimov : A link to the file if you please!

Thank you.

Marhkimov

12-23-05, 01:07 AM

Sorry it took so long. Here's a temporary rapidshare link:

http://rapidshare.de/files/9028650/Marhks_Ocean_MADNESS_v2.7z.html

And get 7z (to de-compress the files) if you don't already have it: http://www.7-zip.org/

The Avon Lady

12-23-05, 01:20 AM

A download mirror link for Marhkimov's mod can be found in the list of my installed mods at the bottom of my SH3 FAQ page (http://www.theavonlady.org/thesh3faq/).

stevo33

12-23-05, 01:48 AM

Marhkimov : Thank you very much!!! A REAL Sun at long last! and some real ocean colours too....... Keep up the excellent work.

:up:

stevo33

12-23-05, 02:52 AM

Hang on a sec, how come the sun in my game does not look like the one in your screenshots for this mod !? Any ideas? My kingdom for a good SUN :sunny: !

Marhkimov

12-23-05, 02:54 AM

It could be because I took a screenshot when the sun was near to horizon level. The sun slightly changes its appearance as it rises.

Do you have any screenshots?

lafeeverted

12-23-05, 02:57 AM

oops, wrong thread.

stevo33

12-23-05, 04:13 AM

Ok, so its Ctrl + f11 to take a screen while in game, but where are they the damn things stored? I can't find them.

Basically the sun looks like the default flat white thing that comes with the game... no glow or anything.

It's so important to have a good glowing sun !! I hope you can help, nice lighting in the mod by the way, just need me sun and I'm all set.

Marhkimov

12-23-05, 04:18 AM

Ok, so its Ctrl + f11 to take a screen while in game, but where are they the damn things stored? I can't find them.
You can find your screenshots in the "Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII" folder, providing you installed SH3 to the default location.

Basically the sun looks like the default flat white thing that comes with the game... no glow or anything.

It's so important to have a good glowing sun !! I hope you can help, nice lighting in the mod by the way, just need me sun and I'm all set.
It could be an Nvidia problem. You might have to ask someone with Nvidia experience, because I have an ATI Radeon. I'm not sure how to fix it.

MirabelleBenou

12-23-05, 04:48 AM

I have a NVidia card and got the "sun glow" problem but only with AA activated in my video card control pannel.

You should check this.

Anyway, you can play the game at a higher resolution in order to "fix" it (higher res mean less need of AA).

ssimon

12-23-05, 06:26 AM

To Marhkimov & Avon Lady. Thank you very much for the alternate download links. When I get home from work I will get the mod immediately.

Merry christams

Duke of Earl

12-23-05, 08:40 AM

Marhkimov

12-23-05, 09:27 AM

But I did write all of my settings down in a notebook. I guess I can type them out if you really want me to.

Hi Marhkimov,

Please do post this info, it it's not too troublesome, because my current particles.dat file is already modded and I would prefer not to overwrite the settings with your improved smoke file...

Cordialement, Duke of Earl

Oh, I've already posted my settings. Visit this thread: http://www.subsim.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=46147&start=0

It's near the bottom of the page; look for the red lettering.

bill clarke

01-10-06, 06:12 PM

I just uploaded it to terrapin's site... Marhks_Ocean_MADNESS_v1

It even comes with some BONUS surprises! :up:

I wonder what they could be?? :roll:
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5974/23zq.jpg

Hello Marhkimov that smoke from the burning tanker is awesome ! where is that a mod ? I have a improved smoke mod, but it's nothing like that it's so realistic.

Silly me, found it, are the water and sky mods compatible with SHIII V1.4 ? and I notice that the smoke mod has 2 files, do I need to install the paticle dat file in the library file ? or just the texture file

Marhkimov

01-10-06, 07:58 PM

are the water and sky mods compatible with SHIII V1.4 ?
yesiree :yep:

and I notice that the smoke mod has 2 files, do I need to install the paticle dat file in the library file ? or just the texture file
You need to install both... Otherwise it won't work correctly.

bill clarke

01-10-06, 08:16 PM

Mate, thankyou, that smoke is just awesome :up:

bill clarke

01-10-06, 09:33 PM

Sorry also, which is the correct ocean madness mod for SHIII ?

Thanks mate.

Marhkimov

01-10-06, 09:39 PM

bill clarke

01-10-06, 09:58 PM

Marhkimov

01-10-06, 10:04 PM

Just a hint for your future mod installations:

All of the newer mods are already geared towards 1.4b. It is already a standard feature that ALL modders have taken into account (I hope).

But yeah, don't worry. They are all meant to work with 1.4b. :yep:

bill clarke

01-10-06, 10:17 PM

Thanks for that, so i can use either one then ?

BTW I haven't heard of 1.4B have I missed something ?

Marhkimov

01-10-06, 10:27 PM

so i can use either one then ?
Yes, as long as you use the right one.

BTW I haven't heard of 1.4B have I missed something ?
1.4b is the last patch to be released for SH3.

If you somehow don't have it yet (gasp!) you can get it here: http://www.silent-hunteriii.com/uk/updates.php

bill clarke

01-10-06, 10:45 PM

so i can use either one then ?
Yes, as long as you use the right one.

Ok I have 1.4b, so which of your files is it compatable with ?

One of the folders is labelled for 8km Atmosphere Mod, RUb, and stock.

or

The other folder is labelled for 16km Atmosphere Mod and IUB.

sorry if i confused you.

Marhkimov

01-10-06, 10:51 PM

Ok I have 1.4b, so which of your files is it compatable with ?

One of the folders is labelled for 8km Atmosphere Mod, RUb, and stock.

or

The other folder is labelled for 16km Atmosphere Mod and IUB.

sorry if i confused you.
Well, I assume you are using stock SH3, so use the folder labelled as stock.

bill clarke

01-10-06, 11:10 PM

Thanks for that. :up: yes I have the basic game plus some mods, so i assume that is stock.

Teho

01-11-06, 11:39 AM

Looks good,downloading now! :yep:

Jmack

01-12-06, 12:42 PM

where can i find this ocean madness mod ? is it under another name ????

cause i only can find the readme

thanks in advance

The Avon Lady

01-12-06, 12:45 PM

where can i find this ocean madness mod ? is it under another name ????

cause i only can find the readme

thanks in advance
Go to my SH3 FAQ page (http://www.theavonlady.org/thesh3faq/) and scroll down to my list of installed mods. It's there. :yep:

Jmack

01-12-06, 02:49 PM

thanks ... going there

RayRay

01-14-06, 06:48 AM

I am not sure which one to use. I am running SHIII stock (1.4b) with SHIII Commander. I read the readme and I am still confused, I was born that way.
What is RUb, IUb, 8km or 16km?

Thanks

Marhkimov

01-14-06, 07:26 AM

What is RUb, IUb, 8km or 16km?
Those are various other mods.

In your case, you would use the file for 8km, because you are using stock settings.

Spent

01-14-06, 09:58 AM

I'm using the right files but why cant I see Med sea as blue? I start in La Spezia and go all throughout the Mediterranean and see nothing but the same old water. And the sea underwater is ALOT darker than normal. ANd I have no other mods, only dial mods, torp textures, etc. nothing that changes Env. :doh:

Spent

01-15-06, 12:23 PM

anyone?

sk065

01-15-06, 12:27 PM

is there a specific order to install atmosphere mod and ocean madness?
I want to use both.

thx

geralt

03-18-06, 12:57 PM

I really like the Supersmoke mod because it looks very nice and is FPS friendly. Used with IUB 1.02 worked great. Now I want to use it with the new IUB 1.03 but there's a small problem because the IUB 1.03 already contains modified file particles.dat so I can't simply overwrite it with the one provided by Marhkimov.
So I'd like to ask him (or anybody else) to describe what values have to be changed in particles.dat (I'm using the TT's minitweaker) to make the Supersmoke mod working...
please...

oRGy

03-18-06, 02:19 PM

I'm sure you could overwrite the particles.dat if you wanted to do without much problem, if the mod only overwrites the graphics. Back it up first, though.

geralt

03-18-06, 02:36 PM

I'm sure you could overwrite the particles.dat if you wanted to do without much problem, if the mod only overwrites the graphics. Back it up first, though.

this was the first thing I've tried but then I've recieved some minor graphical glitches...

well I don't know what original file used Marhkimov (stock SH3?) and what changes were made in the one came in IUB (I know only about some DC effects and the merged smokemod)
so I can add some IUB values to Mrhk's file or Marhk's values to IUB but simple overwriting is not solution

JonZ

03-18-06, 07:52 PM

Geralt, IuB 1.03 use the same particules settings of Marhk's Super smokes for particules.dat.

Don't need to replace/change anything :ping:

JonZ

geralt

03-20-06, 11:22 AM

JonZ

03-20-06, 12:08 PM

Geralt, IuB 1.03 use the same particules settings of Marhk's Super smokes for particules.dat.

Don't need to replace/change anything :ping:

JonZ

I don't want to be unpolite (I'm just a nub) but I can't agree... I've found this:
I've got "stock" Marhk's supersmoke as a part in his Ocean Madness V2. It contains 2 small (4kB) smoke_volume*.tga files and the particles.dat file
IUB 1.03 came with one small (4kB) and one bigger (65kB) smoke_volume.tga and modified particles.dat.
Overwriting the IUB smoke*.tga files with these from OM bringes me... how to say... jumpy smoke...sorry can't descibe it... but the FPS was better than IUB
Using the tga's and particles.dat from OM gives me cool smoke but also some minor problems mainly on the ship/water edge...
well, definitely not a big issue but sometimes when tanker blows FPS drops below 30
sorry for a bit confusing description :oops:
OT: thanks for IUB patch, downloading right now :up:

The Particles.dat don't need to be changed because it already have the settings of Mark's Super Smokes in it. In Fact, it was the original Mark's Super Smoke to begin with. I changed later some values that was required for another mod (Depth Charge FX), without affecting the Mark's settings.

You are right on the tga files thought. I added two different textures because I felt the textures more realistic than the Mark's tga, but the size on one of them still 64x64 instead of 32x32. I did not reduced the 64x64 one because the smoke didn't look satisfying to me when reduced to 32x32. This been said, maybe the 64x64 will need to be rescaled down again and tweaked until satisfaction is meet :dead:.

Try with only the 32x32 files from the Mark's Super Smoke mod. See if it help. Feedback will be appreciated and sorry for the incoveniences.

JonZ

geralt

03-20-06, 02:29 PM

So I take Marhk's particles.dat add values from Redwine's DC FX mod and try different textures... :yep:
thanks JonZ for quick explanation

Sailor Steve

03-20-06, 02:52 PM

One of the folders is labelled for 8km Atmosphere Mod, RUb, and stock.

The other folder is labelled for 16km Atmosphere Mod and IUB.

Just install the files from the folder, for the version of SH3 that you use. :up:
Interesting-I use RUB plus the 16km Atmosphere mod. So which one is...?

Actually I'm being a little facetious. I used the 16k version and have had no problems.

I stopped using the smoke mod, though; I've never seen that much smoke unless the ship was coal fired.