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Oberon
11-15-05, 06:12 PM
Note to all you helo pilots out there....

Don't do this:

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photogallery/Videos/Heli_refueling_accident.mpeg
Syxx_Killer
11-15-05, 06:59 PM
Oops. :oops: :oops: :oops: :D
DivingWind
11-16-05, 02:26 PM
That's some wild manoeuvring shown in that video! :o
I will show it to all my friends!
Ula Jolly
11-16-05, 03:16 PM
Jesus!
Isn't there some kind of.. Control Rotor or Refueling Limitation to the angle of the rotor upon refueling?? If not, there SHOULD be! Lucky lads. :yep:
Wim Libaers
11-16-05, 04:38 PM
Ah yes, that one's a classic.
XabbaRus
11-16-05, 05:26 PM
From what it looked like the drogue dragged the helicopter down and when he pulled up the rotor chopped the probe.
Sonoboy
11-16-05, 06:36 PM
The drogue couldn't have dragged the helo down, they weren't even connected. From my observation, the pilot was following the drogue down, and when it came back up, he had to pull up to avoid chopping off the fuel line. The big problem was that when he was recovering, he pushed too far forward on the stick and chopped off his fuel probe.
sonar732
11-16-05, 10:25 PM
The drogue couldn't have dragged the helo down, they weren't even connected. From my observation, the pilot was following the drogue down, and when it came back up, he had to pull up to avoid chopping off the fuel line. The big problem was that when he was recovering, he pushed too far forward on the stick and chopped off his fuel probe.

I would've taken the probe instead of the fuel line anyday...imagine the video showing the chopper cutting the fuel line, ESD causing a fire, helicopter blowing up in mid-air and the fire following the fuel line and destroy the 'mother' plane/chopper.
LuftWolf
11-16-05, 11:16 PM
I'd imagine they have some kind of baffling system that prevents that sort of catastrophic failure, at least for the refueling plane. :hmm:

Also, I think the line would be dry until a link is established.
Sonoboy
11-17-05, 01:21 AM
Did you see the movie Stealth? It could happen! lol
Oberon
11-17-05, 01:26 AM
Not just helicopters :-?

http://imaginaryzero.com/multimedia/airdropmishaps.wmv
XabbaRus
11-17-05, 04:20 AM
If you look you'll see a small cloud of fuel when the probe first starts to drop. The probe was in the basket at the time.
LuftWolf
11-17-05, 08:55 PM
That is not my assessment of the video evidence. :roll:

Oh well, not my helo or tanker. :88)
Mike 'Red Ocktober' Hense
11-19-05, 08:56 AM
i saw this a while back... my main concern in either case would've been a blade failure due to impact... that would've definitely been catastrphic...

i was actually quite surprised that they could dip so low... but then again, i know precious little about helos...


hey, nice video Oberon... looks like a few of the events were shot at airdrop capitol usa, pope afb and the fort bragg drop zones...

i'm sure a few loadmasters had some explaning to do after some of those malfunctions... and those lapes runs, wow... spectacular... especially the one where the vehicle continues down the field on its own :)


--Mike
XabbaRus
11-19-05, 04:16 PM
OK my mistake just looked at the video in higher res and indeed the pilot followed the droguge.

Strange I thought he would have pulled back but then maybe he was under pressure...

Luftwolf what was with the ":roll: "?
LuftWolf
11-19-05, 04:21 PM
because I sounded like a bloody lawyer... yuck! :-j
Caseck
11-30-05, 12:34 AM
In 1966 a B-52 collided with it's tanker, a KC-135 I believe. (To be exact, turbulence put the fuel boom through the B-52 copilot's window) The tanker exploded in midair. The B-52 was crippled and had to jettison it's payload of hydrogen bombs... It then crash landed. Half the bombs hit on land, half went in the ocean.

It was a big stink.
Skorn
11-30-05, 02:17 AM
Anybody have a website with a good collection of mishaps like this? I am always interested in vidoes like this and was wondering if anybody had a good collection stashed away somewhere. :hmm:
Wim Libaers
12-04-05, 10:43 AM
Anybody have a website with a good collection of mishaps like this? I am always interested in vidoes like this and was wondering if anybody had a good collection stashed away somewhere. :hmm:

http://www.rapp.org/archives/2004/01/thunderbird_crash/
http://www.rapp.org/archives/2004/09/aircraft_crash_videos/

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/aviation_videos.htm
Definitely look at " Hard Landing! "