When do we get new playables?

[Ghost Dog]

subject says it all. what can the community expect? Cant sonalsysts throw us a bone and make downloadable new playable platforms? Clearly most of us have all shown we can use a credit card online....nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

we've seen so many good ideas. western diesel, burke flight 2a, udaloy, virginia.

And so....what do we think is gonna happen?

1. New platforms coming from SCS either downloadable or in a possible expansion. These would have all new stations.

OR

2. New platforms from the modding community which would probably use existing stations and just add new database and model.

and whats all that hubbub about the EULA and modding anyhoo?

the doctors are telling me my time is up, time to get back into the rubber room.

[TLAM Strike]

How many times are people going to ask this! SCS just got done with this game! Its still a V1.01! Let them get the game in to a more stable state with a few more patches before they start releasing expansions that throw new bugs in to the mix.

:damn:

[darksythe]

New platforms??? Who needs new platfomrs??? Isnt it enough that we already a uber (once nodded) realistic sim to play on for however long our hearts desire?.

Seriously though givem some time to debug the few bugs :oops: we have in version 1.01.

[Fandango]

I want SCS to add a playable sailing boat...

I will go and relax while you all shoot torps at each other... :smug:

[Tgio]

More red forces would be great... (Bear & Udaloy, maybe?)
And how about other nations'forces like a Trafalgar or the Harushio?

Let's wait and hope... DW has a great potential in this.

[Kind Seas]

I see from SCS games SC and FC and now DW that they are Mixing the games, I would love to see in the new EXP to have some carriers, and a Flyable f-18 that would be the Greatest Naval Warfare game on Earth, But that would be a Big game.. BTW that was a Dream

[OKO]

The real question is : when will YOU be able to know ONE plateform completly ???
just one ....
not even two ...

give them 7 plateform, they will need 20
give them 20 they will ask for 100
The solution isn't it to have only ONE platform as ALL OTHERS simulations to avoid beggars ?

we already read this question so many times, I think you are as good with DW as with the search option ...
So learn what you have now, before expecting other things.

thanks, and good luck, you've got some work ...

[Pigfish]

How about a playable Whale? Imaging the thrill of hunting Shrimp. :-j

But then people would want whale ships and HARPOONs, or playable Shrimp.

Then it would be Krill...then squids....

And the debate over how the station screens should look.

Or active sonar parameters for AI units. :rotfl:

:-j :-j

[OKO]

re-reading my post makes me understood I was too agressive
sorry for that.

If the form is wrong, anyway the facts are right.

[Kiwi Zero Six]

"Just done"?

Hasn't the game been out 10 months now?

Hardly a brand new game now.

Note I'm not asking for new platforms blah blah. I'm just getting at this one point.

[darksythe]

How about a playable Whale? Imaging the thrill of hunting Shrimp. :-j

But then people would want whale ships and HARPOONs, or playable Shrimp.

Then it would be Krill...then squids....

And the debate over how the station screens should look.

Or active sonar parameters for AI units. :rotfl:

:-j :-j

:rotfl: :rotfl: lmao :smug:

[TLAM Strike]

"Just done"?

Hasn't the game been out 10 months now?

Hardly a brand new game now.

Note I'm not asking for new platforms blah blah. I'm just getting at this one point. No its been out for 7 months. The V1.01 patch was released 5 months ago. Consitering that SCS is a very small company with other contracts they have been doing OK. We are due for a patch but I expect something in a month if not it will be out when the retail (Store) verson is out.

[Tgio]

The real question is : when will YOU be able to know ONE plateform completly ???
just one ....
not even two ...

give them 7 plateform, they will need 20
give them 20 they will ask for 100
The solution isn't it to have only ONE platform as ALL OTHERS simulations to avoid beggars ?


You missed the point... For example I think SubLocig/MS FS series have gained a great value due to the freedom to import sceneries/new planes. :up:

And how about if I like play with subs and not other platforms? I am forced to learn them too? :nope: Anybody has his preferred platforms.

But SCS team is small, so I wait only the patch.

[darksythe]

The real question is : when will YOU be able to know ONE plateform completly ???
just one ....
not even two ...

give them 7 plateform, they will need 20
give them 20 they will ask for 100
The solution isn't it to have only ONE platform as ALL OTHERS simulations to avoid beggars ?


You missed the point... For example I think SubLocig/MS FS series have gained a great value due to the freedom to import sceneries/new planes. :up:

And how about if I like play with subs and not other platforms? I am forced to learn them too? :nope: Anybody has his preferred platforms.

But SCS team is small, so I wait only the patch.

Well Sublogic was bought out 9 years ago so basing opinions off of themshould be considered carefully.

MsFs line of flight simulators is top notch yes.... However they also have the backing of a huge corporation to make things the way they are.

Also they IMHO they have never put out a worthy line of combat simulators cfs <---blah. period end of story.

I have played MsFs95, 98, 2002,2004ACOF these are all very good sims based on when they were put out. And their modability is great to.. They lack any aspect of combat though.

Would it be hard for SCS to release more platforms? IMO no it would not. Should they? this is another question all together.
I dont think they should be focused on new platforms atm they should dbe focusing right where they currently are. Stabilising build 1.02 for retail store release. This in its self will bring SCS Subsim, and the NWS community as a whole a long needed influx of new players. (Captains prepare to NoObie proof your ships, planes and subs. ;) ).

My recomendation to people who dont want to play a sub, ship, or already provided platform is to graphical to post at this time. :stare: so as my friend OKO said learn whats we have at our disposal.

I appologize if this offends you.... If it does in any way you can always find me in HL :rock:

[Hartmann]

more surface forces like a some russian warship.

or balance the plataforms like this

ffg and udaloy or other russian warship.

usa helo and russian helo.

orion and tupolev bear

russian diesel submarine and a allied diesel submarine.

[Tgio]

Yes, I Know SL was bought (by MS, :cry: ).
And yes, I'm enjoying all platforms (obviosly I have preferences, as all human beings). Sorry if you misunderstood me, my fault.

I think we have in our hands one of the most sophisticate Sim of the last years, that pushes the concept of "electronic battlefied" to their far limits.
This to make you sure that I, as you all, LOVE this game.
OT: And with LWAMI's mod is lightyears more enjoyables (IMHO). :up:

Quoting you about the priorities of SCS. They are clears like glass. We all readers of this forum know them.

What I (and others around here, I see) hope is that if AFTER ALL SCS objectives regarding DW has been met (retail version and patch(es?)), it would be not bad if they release "expanson packs". We all expect this NOT happen (this game i getting old... but the SCS request to modders to not develop a SCU-like sistem keep hopes alive). Well, in case SCS will develop them, people can decide not to buy them. It is so easy! :smug:

Well, If this thread about whishes make sombody lost patience, just skip it, no?

And now I want a playable tugboat too! :D

[darksythe]

How bout a canoe to???? :damn:

[Ghost Dog]

im a big fan of expansions. it makes a game seem new again. and I would love to see some for DW.

you could have either just pure platform expansions, such as an entire expansion just dedicated to the Lada class. for example.

or you could have campaign expansions, which come with a new campaign that features one or two new playable platforms.

example: Blockade of Hokkaido Expansion.

The breakaway Far Eastern Republic of Russia has launched an invasion of the Kurile islands. In order to prevent the JSDF air force from interdicting the Russian air support, commandoes have raided Chitose airbase and crippled the Japanese aircraft there. The rogue Russian fleet has cordoned off the northern approaches to Hokkaido and intelligence indicates that SSBNs loyal to the separatists have deployed to thier 'bastion' positions in the Sea of Okhotsk.

Take command of Russian, Japanese or American air and naval assets. And lets say each country present gets one new playable platform.

Russia: Udaloy II class DDG.
Japan: Harushio class SSK.
United States: Boeing P-8 Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft.

now wouldnt that be the ****take mushroom? one ship, one sub, one aircraft.

[Orm]

Black_Dingo wrote


subject says it all. what can the community expect? Cant sonalsysts throw us a bone and make downloadable new playable platforms? Clearly most of us have all shown we can use a credit card online....nudge, nudge, wink, wink


The world is not perfect. :( There are always unhappy peoples. SCS could make 100 playable platforms, you will always find someone that would like 101. ;)

[Ghost Dog]

oh come on! I im really not asking for 100 playable platforms. im asking for 5-8 more, tops.

I really dont think im being greedy here. this game has expandability potential. Im the type of gamer who plays games like Flight Simulator, Falcon 4.0, and those games have excellent add-ons going on.

ok, I know that FS2004 is made by microsoft and has a far greater following than DW, hence its robust modding/expansion community. But, I think either SCS should make new expansions or allow modders to make thier own. If sonalsysts doesnt want to do the legwork, then let the modders do it. Why did so many people buy legit copies of Halflife and Halflife 2? For Counterstrike mainly, a mod originally from the community.

Simulations need this. look at what has kept Falcon 4.0 alive for so long. its things like FreeFalcon and F4-SP.

[goldorak]

Simulations need this. look at what has kept Falcon 4.0 alive for so long. its things like FreeFalcon and F4-SP.


Illegal mods i might add, and the falcon 4 community didn't increase during the dark years but stagnated.
Is that what we want for dangerous waters ?
What keeps alive simulations are not illegal mods but a community, if nobody buys what is the sense of having mods ?
Thats what scs is trying to achieve with the retail publishing, more people buy, the more it is cost effective for scs to produce add-ons.

[Skybird]

When do we get new playables?

Has another patch been skipped?

[Ghost Dog]

i'd be willing to back down from the 'new playables' soapbox if we could even just see a new database edit. With a few exceptions, DW uses the same database from Jane's Fleet Command, circa 1999.

The naval field has seen so many developments since then, particularly in Chinese and European navies.

alot of the info on these newly deployed or soon to be deployed systems is available from public sources.

Lada class, Type 212/214 SSK, Astute class SSN, Scorpene class SSK, Borei class SSBN, Severodvinsk SSN, Yuan class SSK, type 52C (aegis) destroyer. I could go on and on.

naval warfare has alot to do with technology, it is the cutting edge of science and engineering in warfare. All im saying is someone should do it. either sonalsysts, or someone else with thier blessing.

[goldorak]

i'd be willing to back down from the 'new playables' soapbox if we could even just see a new database edit. With a few exceptions, DW uses the same database from Jane's Fleet Command, circa 1999.

The naval field has seen so many developments since then, particularly in Chinese and European navies.

alot of the info on these newly deployed or soon to be deployed systems is available from public sources.

Lada class, Type 212/214 SSK, Astute class SSN, Scorpene class SSK, Borei class SSBN, Severodvinsk SSN, Yuan class SSK, type 52C (aegis) destroyer. I could go on and on.

naval warfare has alot to do with technology, it is the cutting edge of science and engineering in warfare. All im saying is someone should do it. either sonalsysts, or someone else with thier blessing.

Just wait patiently, as we all do for the 1.02 patch to become available and then the DWX mod will start.

[Kapitan]

a lada SSK would be neat