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WARHEAD1
09-06-05, 11:38 AM
TO ALL OUT THERE I'M NEW AT THIS. BUT HERE GOES. HAS ANYONE SEEN THE MOVIE "BELOW". NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH "ENEMY BELOW".CHECK OUT EARLY IN THE MOVIE THE SURFACE SHIPS GRAPPLING HOOKS FOR?FISHING FOR SUBS.

CWorth
09-06-05, 11:42 AM
Just to save you trouble later on...do not type in all caps..it is considered to be shouting and rude when you do.Normal typing will suffice.

KodiakPA
09-06-05, 12:13 PM
Good suspensful movie.

FAdmiral
09-06-05, 12:54 PM
I taped it when it was on but haven't had the time to watch it yet.
I hope it is very good watching. It is a very recent movie....


JIM

darkdrone
09-07-05, 07:11 AM
i enjoyed it however i don't know how factual it is ps; i love those bronze bulkheads

flyingdane
09-07-05, 11:49 PM
Why in the Hel* would someone make a movie of a sub ghost... DAM! waste if you ask me. :nope: (Hehehe ghost :roll: )

FAdmiral
09-08-05, 09:48 AM
I just watched it and was very disappointed. If they (movie makers) had just made a WW2 war film about subs in the Atlantic
in 1943, I would have been very happy. As it was, it was mostly
about hocus-pocus mumbo-jumbo supernatural garbage.....


JIM


PS. movie goers understand the conflict of war, they don't understand all that spooky stuff !! I know I didn't....

WARHEAD1
09-18-05, 09:44 AM
i was just glad to see a sub movie. i was and still wondering about those large grappling hooks .

rulle34
09-18-05, 10:00 AM
i was just glad to see a sub movie. i was and still wondering about those large grappling hooks .

I have never heard about using hooks for damaging subs. Hooks can only be used in quite shallow water and in that case it must be a lot easier to just use deapthcharges. Anyone else heard about DD's using hooks as antisubwarfare method?

A submovie I can recommend is "Das Boot" a must see :up:

caspofungin
09-18-05, 10:39 AM
Edward L Beach, a US Navy sub skipper, in "Dust on the Sea" (admittedly a work of fiction, but based somewhat on his experiences in ww2, mentions the japanese using sweep wires to find a sub that' sitting on the seabed in shallow waters, then sliding dc's down the wire to destroy it.

in das boot (the novel) the author mentions sweep wires too.

Trefoil
09-18-05, 06:05 PM
There are some accounts of the Japanese using grappling hooks to locate US subs uring WWII, to quote from an account of of the USS Crevalle -

'The escorting planes following along the torpedo tracts dropped two bombs and CREVALLE began evasive tactics although the water was only about 30 fathoms (180 feet) in depth. The counterattack by the Japanese escorts was vicious and continuous. It lasted for thirty minutes with numerous depth charges that caused a considerable amount of damage to valves and fittings. Even with the drain pump running at full bore emptying the boats bilge's she was taking on a lot of sea water. It was decided to bottom the submarine and she settled down at 174 feet on the ocean floor. All running machinery was secured, except for the lighting generator and low speed operation of the drain pump to keep ahead of the flooding. At about 10 o'clock it was discovered that the Japanese were successfully dragging grappling hooks down the side of the boat. CREVALLE got underway immediately and as stealthily as possible, pulled clear without the Japanese suspecting the movement of the submarine. The boat during this action endured a total of 61 near at hand exploding depth charges. A tired but undaunted crew initiated emergency repairs and the boat steamed ahead to its rendezvous with history.'

I saw the movie a while back and thought it was OK, but I wouldn' t see it six time like 'Das Boot'. :)

simsurfer
09-19-05, 07:08 PM
i was just glad to see a sub movie. i was and still wondering about those large grappling hooks .

Go rent DAS BOOT, it will be the last sub movie you will need to see.

WARHEAD1
09-19-05, 07:49 PM
I have das boot the holy grail to some plus a number of other wwII sub movies . just wondered about the grappeling hooks .[/b]

rulle34
09-21-05, 05:46 PM
Edward L Beach, a US Navy sub skipper, in "Dust on the Sea" (admittedly a work of fiction, but based somewhat on his experiences in ww2, mentions the japanese using sweep wires to find a sub that' sitting on the seabed in shallow waters, then sliding dc's down the wire to destroy it.

in das boot (the novel) the author mentions sweep wires too.

That makes sence! :yep:

Kant Schwimm
07-19-07, 10:54 AM
That makes sence! :yep:[/quote]

Oh the irony....:rotfl:

Kpt. Lehmann
07-19-07, 10:56 AM
Die necro-thread DIE! :shifty:

WilhelmSchulz.
07-19-07, 11:42 AM
That movie sucked A** if you ask me. I repeat what everyone else said and buy Das Boot. Dont bother renting it, you will like it.

"A shovel full of sand" ;)

Webster
07-19-07, 06:22 PM
the hooks were mainly for retreaving sub nets after they were pulled loose.

they were indeed used to "fish" for subs but with no real results since they damaged the ship far more than the sub if and when they did manage to snag anything and all the snags on the bottom meant they had to troll high in the water to prevent snagging the bottom, so the hooks were about as usefull as ice in alaska.

USS Sea Tiger
07-19-07, 09:08 PM
there is a story/report that during wwi of a man seeing a submarine, taking out a rowboat,, snagging the sub, then dropping hand grenades on it until it surfaced.

ah .. the good old days of ASW at its simplest. !!!

don1reed
07-20-07, 11:39 AM
The British used grapling hooks, among other means before depth charges were invented, during the First World War to snag German UBoats. See Lowell Thomas' Raiders of the Deep.