Real sounds from french submarine (part II)

[UglyMowgli]

Some sound are high pitch so lower the output if you don't want to be hurt and loss your earing capacity. :rock:

Recorded by a sonarman Krusty in a diesel sub in the mid 70 early 80.
(Original source : http://forum.aceboard.net/21889-3138-0-oreilles.htm )

Submarine cavitating as it accelerate : http://xthost.info/krusty/accelerationsoum.wma

shrimp :
http://xthost.info/krusty/crevettescachalots.wma

Fregate active sonar and she cavitate (propellor 56 turns/min)
http://xthost.info/krusty/sonarfregate.wma

civilain cargo ship with with a specfic sound (misaligned transmission shaft)
http://xthost.info/krusty/commercegla.wma

Dolphins (and a cargo far away):
http://xthost.info/krusty/dolphin.wma

Dolphin and at 38s a transient from a submarine (pfchhiiiiiiitttt), dolphins are exicted after that suspect sounds

http://xthost.info/krusty/dauphinsderanges.wma

Fishing ship deploying there nets (dangerous for Submarine so when they ear thaht specific sounds they go away, be catchted by a fishing ship for a sub is not glorious)

http://xthost.info/krusty/bruitsdechaines.mp3

Torpedo excercice:
from 0-31s : nothing
+32s : initiating lauching sequence
+34s : pneumatic expulsion of the torpedo (specific from french sub)
+35s : toprdo is running on is own
+2m15s : lost torpedo (bad!)
+2m20s and 2m35s : surface ship eminnting sonar pulse

http://xthost.info/krusty/torpille.wav

And the final , a foreign and french submarines shooting each other during an exercice torpedo:
the first sound is a blank torpedo fire (just HP lauch) the you can ear the TUUM (submerged telephone) between the 2 :"Oscar Oscar Whiskey" and the response "Romeo, Romeo, Romeo" and the french lauch is torpedo at the end.
http://xthost.info/krusty/chasseavidetuumlctimmediat.wav

enjoy, more to come next week?

[Bellman]

MS.

:D Very nice - thanks. Enjoyed the 'shrimps and wales' but couldnt hear any whales - just the crackling noise of shrimps.
Sounded like they were beeing cooked in the galley ? ;)

Torp launch etc - cool. Look forward to next release. :up:

[UglyMowgli]

sorry, I miss to post some sounds:

Whale
http://xthost.info/krusty/baleine.wma
antoher whale
http://xthost.info/krusty/baleines.wma

A trailer ship : http://xthost.info/krusty/caboteur.wma

A civilian ship with a single 'signature' should go for heavy maintenance.
He is at 132 turn/min and at the end juste 104, the noise fade when he reduce his speed.
http://xthost.info/krusty/sonargla.wma

Very strange sound :D :D :

http://xthost.info/krusty/bizarre.wma

[Bellman]

:D Great whale music.

'Bizarre '- Le engineer petamander (?) apres les beans :-j

[UglyMowgli]

No it s a bio :D not the effect of to much beans.

I will give you the response in few days (actually it s the question of the day in the website, so i can't give you the answer)

[Fish]

Seems the site is down?

[UglyMowgli]

I repost the files on my own website:

http://dangerouswaters.org/v-web/mambo/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=60&func=selectcat&cat=12

[Nexus7]

Great stuff :rock:

[Bellman]

:) I have played that 'Bizarre' bio sound track until I am blue in the face. :nope:

Although engine running cant hear (?) any sub movement. The sound is like a release of static or gas.

So stationary amongst - something coming in contact with the hull ?

Off the wall - sounds as if an octopus is getting intimate with the sub.

Its got me beat - but thanks for the challenge MS. :up:

[UglyMowgli]

This is bio with claw and antennas and you eat them.

[Bellman]

:lol: Wow - not a giant crab/lobster ?

Not JAWS but CLAWS ? - scarey.

No. no, not Genghis Prawn ?

You got me worried Les Francais mange tous le monde ? :-j

[UglyMowgli]

yes this is lobsters (not giant trying to cut the sub with it s claws :D )

[Bellman]

:) Mmm near but not quite on target.

Note lobsterS - so on or near bottom or she might just have collided with fishermens pots ?

Anyone get it on your site ?

I like this - keep it coming. :rock:

[Kapitan]

yeah keep it coming the last french sub i tracked was like a jumbo jet engine reving up in my ear at full pelt :nope:

then i sank it :D got pi**ed off with listning to it :smug:

well i was orderd too ok :D

perle one less noise in the ocean :smug:

[UglyMowgli]

:) Mmm near but not quite on target.

Note lobsterS - so on or near bottom or she might just have collided with fishermens pots ?

Anyone get it on your site ?

I like this - keep it coming. :rock:

I found the answer after they give us the hint ! (the quizz is not on my site nor MS but on a dedicated site about french submarines), I repost the sounds here with a translation of the comments in my poor english.

[Kapitan]

it take 1 hour 35 mins normaly by depending on how sober we are

[Stealth Elephant]

This stuff just fascinates me. Thanks for sharing the sounds!

When I heard the shrimp for the first time in Dangerous Waters, I was convinced that my sound card was on the fritz!

[Nexus7]

I'll eat shrimps from a different point of view after this :rotfl:

[Bellman]

:rotfl:

Best to look 'em straight in the eye - dont let that stare from the plate put you off.

These sounds have been a 'feast' for the ears. Thanks MS - but you French are masters of the culinery
pursuits and I am just a little worried that some of these shrimp and lobster noises may have been produced
in the kitchens of a four star cuisine.
Firm evidence above when I reported that the whale call was missing and there was a delay.
Now that was very significant . N'est pas ? :-j

[UglyMowgli]

Blackmuzzle make a sound pack with this sounds:

http://www.battlefront.com/discuss/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=41;t=000877

[Nexus7]

that's a first step in the right direction ;)

[Kapitan]

i personaly done like french submarines they are noisey small under equiped ect but i have to say the agosta SSK they had did look rather dashing old chaps

[TLAM Strike]

You got to admit Kapitian those Damphne’s could put a lot of torpedoes in the water at one time! Almost at much as an Akula II. :rock:

[OKO]

noisy small and under equipped ?
you better refresh your links...

look at the last one => the scorpene
one of the 3 best (I didn't said THE best even if I was close to :lol: ) diesel/electric/AIP submarine of the world

http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/scorpene/

http://www.dcn.fr/us/produits/sous_marin_attaque.html#3

Able to fire old torpedo, present or futures ones (like black shark)

And MESMA AIP system is the most silenced AIP system of the world with the HDW.
The scorpene is faster, deeper, more silenced and had better sensor than any KILO ever had. He also can stand 4 times longer under water. With top technology aboard (look at combat system)

Finally, do you know THE country, in the world, who actually have a great experience AND production capabilities on nuclear AND conventionnal submarines ?
Russian had, but they don't have any more money for research, development and production ... just look at their fleet at this time ...
Only France, in the world, are in the top on both area.

lets talk about SSBN now : what country have the most modern and silenced SSBN ? France, with the latest SNLE Le Triomphant class =>

http://www.dcn.fr/us/produits/sous_marin_nucleaire.html

much more modern than the Ohio class.
We have 3 and we will have 5, for a complete and realistic nuclear dissuasion with the most modern and silenced SSBN of the world.
Of course you can argue (with reason) nuclear dissuasion in not a priority now, but this is another problem.
The fact is we have the best SSBN of the world, because it's simply the most modern and stealthy one.

Concerning the SSN, it is true our Amethyste class are quite old now, even with upgrade, and not at the top of the list of SSN.
688i, Seawolf, Akula are above this level.
but the Amethyste come in third position, with the Trafalgar, FAR above the chineese SSN, and the next generation of french SSN, Barracuda class, will be close to the standard of a virginia class ...
=>
http://www.dcn.fr/us/produits/sous_marin_attaque.html#1

The main thing we miss, is an ADCAP/65cm equivalent torpedo, with long range and high capabilities.
But it's not so bad when you think french is 1/5 of the population of the US and spend the 1/4 per people that american do for defense (this give us a defense budget of 1/20 of the american one).
And on this stuff, we are making ALL alone (french development and production), from the sub to the missiles, by the sensor and electronics.

So we have actually the most stealthy SSBN of the world, one of the best diesel/electric (only for export because we just use nukes on our navy) and we will have soon (2008) one of the best SSN, of the next generation

It's not because Sonalysts choose to make the Amethyste the most louder sub of the game it is like this in the real world.
France are the 3rd nation in nukes submarine, behind 2 giants, and could come to the second place in some times.
And France is also one of the best nation in production of top technology diesel/electric.

noisy small and under equipped ?
I think you really better refresh your links, Kapitain ... ;)

[Bellman]

:) MESMA is cool:-

Quote- '' To lessen the submarine's vulnerability, the vessel can be equipped with an air independent propulsion system such as:
the Stirling engine, the fuel cell, the closed circuit diesel and the odule d'Energie Sous-Marine Autonome (MESMA) system .

The MESMA anaerobic system, in which heat in the primary circuit is produced by burning ethanol with oxygen,
can be easily installed either at the start of the submarine's construction or in a later modernisation
to convert the CM-2000 to an AM-2000 build standard. With the MESMA system the AM-2000 submarine
can stay down in underwater patrol three times longer than the CM-2000. Its performance features remain
the same in all other respects, except that the length increases to 0m and its submerged displacement
to 1.870t (against the 61.7m and the 1,565t of the CM2000). ''

The Black Shark (great name) has superior two-way communication.

Quote:- ''The Black Shark is also equipped with an advanced sensor capability, allowing the target classification
function even in very complex and unfavorable underwater scenarios. ''

[UglyMowgli]

Please not an another :"Mine is bigger than you" :damn:
useless because we didn't have the real data, we compare different technology and generation.

this is a topic about real sound submarine so if you want to make a comparative one go to strategypage the best site where they comapre what
is uncomparable.

[TLAM Strike]

Concerning the SSN, it is true our Amethyste class are quite old now, even with upgrade, and not at the top of the list of SSN.
688i, Seawolf, Akula are above this level.
but the Amethyste come in third position, with the Trafalgar...I think the Trafalgar has the Amethyste beat since she can launch the Tomahawk missile; making it a very useful asset in the types of wars the US and UK are fighting now. Also the Trafalgar has a better top speed. Also I think the Victor III, Sierra I/II, Swiftsure and Sturgeon SSNs all top the Amethyste. But the French should take some pride in that the Amethyste is one of (if not the) smallest SSN around.

Personally I hope SCS makes a playable Scorpene in a future add on. Its one handy little boat to have.

[Bellman]

:lol: Your right MS - weve drifted in your thread from the gentle, puzzling and captivating subject of sound
to a 'New World. v 'Old World' confrontation.

Get us back on track again asap with some more please.

Forgive my Rosbif joshing - some of us are still smarting about that Norman William.T.B. . . Bad losers. ;)

Even in the summer doldrums you have created an audience now keep it. :up:

[Kapitan]

french SSN rubis class are the smallest attack submarines around that are nuclear they are noisey not as noisey as some boats like the HAN or XIA but still not quite there in terms of quietness

as for the SNLE (SSBN) they still do not match the quietness of the vanguard class and the vanguard cuts close to the ohio class in noise

the new astutes are to be as quiet if not quieter than the current seawolf class making them the second quietest SSN on earth

as for the trafalgar class the rubis makes more noise cant dive as deep or go as fast as these british boats making them the weaker link

the french SNLE programme is not overly amazing infact they just like every other boring western submarine simple plain and down right ugly there is nothing like waking up to a typhoon that id do anyday :rock:

[Kapitan]

currently in SSN's the list goes as thus

virginia, (astute), seawolf, trafalgar and swifsure, akula II, akula I improved, akula I, victor III, sierra II, rubis, sierra I,

in terms of SSBN's

ohio join with vanguard, borey, le triomphant, delta IV,typhoon, delta III, Xia

SSK's

type 212/214, scorpene joint with lada amur, type 209/206, kilo (doesnt include netherlands or swedish boats)

[UglyMowgli]

This stuff just fascinates me. Thanks for sharing the sounds!

When I heard the shrimp for the first time in Dangerous Waters, I was convinced that my sound card was on the fritz!

Did you know that Shrimp sounds are produced by fast closing of their very small claws creating depression and producing bubble gas by cavitation (like your sub when my torpedo running on it! :D ) so when bubble explode this make the sound.

[TLAM Strike]

currently in SSN's the list goes as thus

virginia, (astute), seawolf, trafalgar and swifsure, akula II, akula I improved, akula I, victor III, sierra II, rubis, sierra I,You forgot 688 and 688(i) I think they fall in between the Akula I and Akula Imp.

SSK's

type 212/214, scorpene joint with lada amur, type 209/206, kilo (doesnt include netherlands or swedish boats) The Amur 950 really surpasses anything else out there. A nice little SSG for a naval battle or a "pocket boomer" for land attack. There is just nothing else like it out there. :yep:

[Kapitan]

that true i did forget the 688 and 688i whoops lol

[Blackmuzzle]

Back on topic: Those sounds are marvellous. If we could get ahold of more such recordings and do a combined effort to replace all the "stock" sounds with real-life recorded ones, that would be the ultimate soundpack for DW.

[Fish]

Back on topic: Those sounds are marvellous. If we could get ahold of more such recordings and do a combined effort to replace all the "stock" sounds with real-life recorded ones, that would be the ultimate soundpack for DW.
I fully agree. :up:

And stop the polluting msg's in this tread, please. :stare:

[Kapitan]

ok so whos up for getting shot first :D :-j

[UglyMowgli]

An other sound (bad quality) of a frigate active sonar and at 48s the explosion of depth charges.

www.xthost.info/krusty/sonarfregategrenadage.wma

[PeriscopeDepth]

An other sound (bad quality) of a frigate active sonar and at 48s the explosion of depth charges.

www.xthost.info/krusty/sonarfregategrenadage.wma

Keep'em coming! :up:

[UglyMowgli]

I ask to krusty the man who record the sounds more files, just wait.

[Kapitan]

can he record the delta ssbn subs ?

[UglyMowgli]

He never disclose sensitive recording informations, when he give us submarine sound record he never says what nationality or type, just that it is not a french. It is the same for the time, date, distance, depth or the type of submarine he done the recording.
These informations a classified in all navy.
Ask to USN or eventually RN sonarmen in subsim for the Delta, this kind of ssbn where most of the time near US coast not in the vicinity of the 'old world' but I doubt your get a specific sound from the silent service

[PeriscopeDepth]

I think we're pretty lucky to get these files at all. This kind of stuff is pretty hard to come by. Big thanks to the guy it came from. :rock:

[UglyMowgli]

He will give us sounds for civilains ships and biologics to complete the sound pack.
I put the files here soon.

[Bellman]

:sunny: Good work MS. Thanks. :|\

[Qppralke]

That's absolutly AWESOME !

It could enchance the sonar operator role in DW.

[UglyMowgli]

Last sounds:

Sound of a surface ship (civilian)
http://dangerouswaters.org/v-web/mambo/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=60&func=download&filecatid=56&chk=4c2ce5ad6c394ae6d121ca43c415f72c

And another call trash ship in the french navy, noisy as possible! :
http://dangerouswaters.org/v-web/mambo/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=60&func=download&filecatid=60&chk=e4fb993e6e03c5616fe3161f86c3f104

Biologics:
Dolphins:
http://dangerouswaters.org/v-web/mambo/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=60&func=download&filecatid=57&chk=a30efdd703c744a44a9a4cd88af115e5

Sea elephants:
http://dangerouswaters.org/v-web/mambo/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=60&func=download&filecatid=58&chk=b61770b4980975aefda24bfe5751d458

Porpoise:
http://dangerouswaters.org/v-web/mambo/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=60&func=download&filecatid=59&chk=bdefa415d13f648e46c0c028897d4f5c

[UglyMowgli]

Other sounds from Krusty (I think they are the lasts of the serie for some times):

Sea elephants (different from the first I publish):
http://dangerouswaters.org/v-web/mambo/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=60&func=download&filecatid=63&chk=69fc91d92ba70a248b9522bf8899835a

Warship (frigate):
http://dangerouswaters.org/v-web/mambo/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=60&func=download&filecatid=62&chk=6697c6dc4388aae9869645df19c983e2

Fishs (unkonw species):
http://dangerouswaters.org/v-web/mambo/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=60&func=download&filecatid=61&chk=6ef443400a12a6c068a4baa80f236bc0

Cargo ship :
http://dangerouswaters.org/v-web/mambo/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=60&func=download&filecatid=65&chk=ae5a74ddddc34bff4a5268b618758d6d

Clams:
http://dangerouswaters.org/v-web/mambo/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=60&func=download&filecatid=66&chk=749926b2fc49640cd88e432ee7c3ea9b

Shrimps and dolphins:
http://dangerouswaters.org/v-web/mambo/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=60&func=download&filecatid=64&chk=02121d808a8897b27761fa8aa965c3bc

[Fish]

Other sounds.
http://www.pmel.noaa.gov/vents/acoustics/sounds.html

http://www.findsounds.com/ISAPI/search.dll

[Blackmuzzle]

I'll make ready-to-use sfx.agg files this time. Bigger, but easier to just download and play.

[Bellman]

:) FindSounds database search facility very neat :up:

Just listened to 'n' variations of submarine dive alarms.
Cleared the tubes. :rock:

[Fish]

:) FindSounds database search facility very neat :up:

Just listened to 'n' variations of submarine dive alarms.
Cleared the tubes. :rock:

Could someone make ringtones from those sounds. :rotfl: :rock:

[TLAM Strike]

Most new cellphones support .mp3 (or .wav, I'm not sure but you can convert the files) ringtones so just convert them and upload them. ;)

Older cells use MIDIs so your out of luck there.

[Bellman]

:rotfl:

Fish - great idea - another 'defence'

'' Sorry dear ! ........ I have an emergencey here ! ''

:rotfl: