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Bellman
07-16-05, 04:02 AM
:D :D

I have tried to give her up - we have been together now for 3 years. She has been faithful and true,
but I regret that my eyes have been taken by a sleek lady whose a bit stand-offish but is full of spirit.
She even throws a heck of a punch when shes in the mood :up:

But I cant abandon my dear old Seawolf for that sassy Akula. She may be a looker but shes as blind as a bat :down:
She's passive , she just languishes out there waiting for me to make the first move.
I'm trying to learn her ways but can anyone out there persuade me its worth the effort ? :yep:

Ula Jolly
07-16-05, 07:43 AM
There are GOD-knows-how-many commanders using the Seawolf, how do you wish to excel among them?
The Akula makes you an offer of conquering the title as Queen of the Sea (or King, depending on your likes/dislikes) without actually having the very best equipment, and not being the most silent around.
She encourages patience, and a deadly silence before striking the foe by thunder.
You can never be found in the Seawolf, less you make a grave mistake. What thrill is there?
:arrgh!:
Only using the Akula may you fully enjoy sinking another Seawolf, hopefully destroying the feeling of invincibility that the other commander had in his/her ship.
And with the Akula, you only need to click half as many times to execute the same tasks as with the Seawolf.

Orm
07-16-05, 09:24 AM
Ula Jolly wrote


She encourages patience, and a deadly silence before striking the foe by thunder.
You can never be found in the Seawolf, less you make a grave mistake. What thrill is there?

Only using the Akula may you fully enjoy sinking another Seawolf, hopefully destroying the feeling of invincibility that the other commander had in his/her ship.


I would have the feeling that you are talking about the Kilo's driver, instead. :|\

Ula Jolly
07-16-05, 10:22 AM
I would have the feeling that you are talking about the Kilo's driver, instead. :|\
What? :huh: How ever could you think that? :stare: I would never. :know:

Bellman
07-16-05, 10:58 AM
:) Ah so it was you in that Kilo what :roll:

Caught speeding again :lol:

Ula Jolly
07-16-05, 12:17 PM
:) Ah so it was you in that Kilo what :roll:

Caught speeding again :lol:
No, seriously, what I said about the Akula applies. ;) I guess one could never convert a boomer to the Kilo, at least not with success.

Bellman
07-16-05, 11:39 PM
:)
You can see many old SC divers who favoured the SW now take the Ak. in DW. It is easy to see why as there
is now a greater variety of challenge available to the Ak.diver. :up:

Getting your head into the new role is not too difficult but adapting to the downgrading in sonar performance is not.
Its like losing the SWs headlight main beam and only having a dipped beam with the Ak.
Then ,for you nocturnal rabbit shooters, your handed a riifle with a telescopic sight. You can kill long-distance but you cant see ! :down:

Generaly you are placed in the defensive reactive role - initialy I hasten to add ! :lol:

But the ace the Ak diver has is the ability to send plenty to keep the SW diver very busy, possibly distracted,
allowing the Aker to gain the tactical ascendancy. :cool:

Thats another reason why I am jumping ship - if only I could get used to 'driving on dipped headlights.' :stare:

How do you Akers do it ? :-?

Kapitan
07-17-05, 01:30 AM
easy let the target walk infront of my headlights :D then blow the crap outta him

akula is the best platform easy to use and control weapons are more and normaly you dont have to worry about running out or reloads like the 688 of sea wolf because you got 14 tubes to 8 or 4 so it gives an advantage there

im to go to bed write later

Ula Jolly
07-17-05, 03:49 AM
The many torpedoes does give a splendid upper hand: Even in MP, you're likely never to need a reload - and if so, only a very few - to get things your way.

Bellman
07-17-05, 04:13 AM
:hulk: :hulk:

Yep - all that ordnance makes the mouth water. It would be very interesting to know which is the most successful
killer of the Aks weapons. Guess I'll ask that too. ;)

See Poll.

But - back on topic as a new Ak recruit I genuinely want to know how do YOU do it ? :roll:

:lol: Ackers do IT with multiple shots ? :lol:

Bellman
07-17-05, 05:07 AM
:roll: On reflection I think a question about the most successful weapons may be too specific for a poll.

A rough proportion would give a better picture - so if your an Akula experienced diver what kill success
have you had with various weapons ? For example :-

Versus SW Stallion X % Type 53 Y %. 65 W % Shkval Z %....etc
Versus FFG Stallion W % etc.....

What combos do you favour against which targets ? :rock:

I guess we give mein Kapitain some bragging-rights here ? :D

Kapitan
07-17-05, 07:15 AM
hahahahaha :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: lol

if i tell you the truth i dont acctualy shoot at much reason is because i prefer tracking and getting in close

i normaly sit around 3 to 6 knots and listen some time it good to extend towed array some times not but hey

the closer you get to a enamy platform the more types of weapons you can use

stallion is totaly crap i dont use it at all nor the SS-N-27 ASW i prefer the normaly torpedos.
the 53cm is good if fired 5 miles or less from target same with the 53-65K

the best and one i use most is the 65cm because of its 27 mile range and i dont have to get to close (i prefer around 15 20 miles) with this weapon i have sunk many ships including nimitz carriers to 688 submarines

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/kapitain01/bothgoingdown.bmp

here is the british ark royal going down she took three direct 65cm torpedo hits i was very close but needed a confimed kill so instead of using the 53cm or 53-65k i had to use the 65cm because it would almost garentee a kill as its wire guided,
also in the picture is the type 23 frigate argyll she also took 2 53cm hits and went down along side the ark

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/kapitain01/DIVE.bmp

kuznetsov aircraft carrier chinluck sinks after being fired at by me with 4 65cm torpedos from a distance of 15 miles

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/kapitain01/TRACK.bmp

but this is what i prefer tracking another unit up close if you notice the chinease xia is only about 300 yards from me :D thats how close i like to be shame you cant fire weapons at that range :damn:

Kapitan
07-17-05, 07:24 AM
i posted here about a load out before but hey here it is again :up:

open ocean load out

Tube 1 to 4 : 65cm
Tube 5 to 8 : 53cm
Tube 1 to 2 : SS-N-27 ASM (external)
Tube 3 to 4 : 53-65K (external)
Tube 5 to 6 : SS-N-27 ASM/ASW (external)

under ice load out and littoral waters

Tube 1 to 4 : 65cm
Tube 5 to 8 : 53cm
Tube 1 to 4 : 53-65k (external)
Tube 5 to 6 : 53cm

for TLAM oparations load out six missiles in the external tubes then if more needed load them out in the normal tubes but dont load them into tubes 1 to 4 they needed for 65cm torpedos
same with mines

TLAM Strike
07-17-05, 10:36 AM
My Akula loadouts:

ASW
1-2 SS-N-16
3-4 65 cm
1-8 53 cm
1-4 ex SS-N-27 ASW
5-6 ex Mine

ASUW
1-4 65 cm or SS-N-27 ASM
1-8 53-65 or SS-N-27 ASM
1-4 ex SS-N-27 ASM
5-6 ex Mine

Generally I score my kills with the SS-N-27 ASW missile, the 27 ASW arrives on target much faster than a conventional torpedo and the 27's warhead (torpedo) is much faster than nearly any other torpedoes. I've seen SW and 688i get killed with this weapon and had only about 10 seconds warning. The SUBROCs also give you the advantage of remaining covert since the launch is very hard to detect.

Another tactic, against a skilled SW skipper I drop four SS-N-27s in a bracketing pattern around the sub and four 65 cm fish once the SS-N-27s arrive on target. If in range I also fire 53cm and Shkval torpedoes (Shkvals down the bearing and 53s in a spread). Finally I fire the two mines behind me as I begin my evasion.

Bellman
07-17-05, 11:08 AM
Theres a lot to chew over there thanks. :up:

I have got a bit dependent on the UUVs and previously with the SW in ASW MP usualy found room for 2.
Notice you guys dont load them - any reason ? Would have thought , with all those tubes,
theres plenty of room. Moreover at least when we counterfire the SW with 65s as stage two, and run
we can keep a bead on the SW and refine TMA. :cool:

Again the Shkval - if you are dropped into knife-fight proximity a broadside (Shotgun blast) up the SW's bilges
will get the SW diver dancing on the back foot ? :hmm: (Excuse the mixed metaphors) :lol:

Kapitan
07-17-05, 11:17 AM
first of all can we have the second part in english please

and the reason i dont load out UUV is because i see no point of having them waste of space to me unless im in the littoral waters
as i mainly play underice i optimise my boat for war and war only (ie shoot to kill as many as possible) a UUV cannot kill a hostile platform therefore i dont see a need to load them out

UUV wastes valuble space in my sub i dont like junk so i dont carry it

skhval dont realy carry that either dont like the weapon at all infact the last time i carried a skhval was when i was playing sub command and that was yonks ago in fact DW was still on the drawing board then!

i prefer the normal missiles and torpedos i know its a bit old fashioned but some times if its simple its the best way

Bellman
07-17-05, 11:38 AM
:) Strictly English for vous Mein Kapitain. Les Rosbif sont arrives. :up:

I think you play SP and that somewhat dictates your approach and weapon selection. I have learnt MP at the feet
of that great wizard RADM Fish who is a strong advocate of UUV use. :cool:

A UUV, sir is not ,and never has been, a 'waste of space' It is is a very useful sonar tool which I for one,
stepping anew into the relatively short sighted Ak, will continue to deploy effectively when I can return to MP. :hmm:

It will help to compensate for the Aks major sonar range weakness and 'blind' running ! :rock: :rock: :rock:

Soulchaser
07-18-05, 03:11 AM
A UUV can be the one thing that decides if you live or die. actually you waste alot of potential there if you dont use them kapitain.

@Bellman: wich fleet are you in? 3rd by any chance?

Kapitan
07-18-05, 06:55 AM
il see about the UUV and what fleet ?????

Bellman
07-18-05, 07:33 AM
:dead: :dead:

Did you say fleece Mein Kapitain ?

'Never send to know for whom the bell tolls...'

Kapitan
07-18-05, 07:39 AM
what fleet flota you in ?

Bellman
07-18-05, 07:53 AM
' when I can return to MP. ' would tend to indicate that I am not at present an active member of any fleet. :doh:

I have served in the Seawolves and am on the NCHQ roster. Active duties will recommence when circumstanvces permit.

For the time beeing its SP and mastering the Akula ! :lol: ...with all her faults.

Kapitan
07-18-05, 07:55 AM
kool i love akula akula loves me i love akula akula loves me im going on :stare:

sonar732
07-18-05, 08:48 AM
The thing about a UUV is that if you don't employ it correctly, it will be the death of you. So, it could be your best friend or your worse enemy. As Fish has stated in another topic, keep mind of the SSP when launching your UUV. The deeper you are, the best chance you have to avoid the TIW warning that tells everyone your bearing. :up:

EDIT:

No one can argue against the fact that a UUV, when employed correctly, will give the sub driver the advantage against the OPFOR. For instance, as soon as the contacts populate my nav screen with bearings, I scan my sonar screen on those bearings to determine the threat level of the contact. The tubes are already flooded and ready to go when I complete this and..."Say hello to my little friend!"

Bellman
07-18-05, 09:32 AM
Recently Sensei Fish said he risked 'losing my lead' by revelations about 'silent' UUV launching. :huh:

When pressed for more detail he took to sea and there have been few sightings since. ;)

:lol: I tease - very probably its down to holidays. :sunny:

Soulchaser
07-18-05, 04:36 PM
The thing about a UUV is that if you don't employ it correctly, it will be the death of you. So, it could be your best friend or your worse enemy.

absolutly correct.
but hey, it would be cheating if it was all to easy and without risk ;)

Bellman
07-19-05, 08:29 AM
The way ahead for the UUV - from the Navy League:-

http://www.navyleague.org/sea_power/jul_05_26.php

TLAM Strike
07-19-05, 04:56 PM
I have a DW addict confession to make, while doing some mundane stuff online I noticed my cursor moving to the lower right hand corner of the screen, I realized that I was about to try to turn on Time Compression with out even thinking!

I got it bad… :lol:

Zerogreat
07-19-05, 06:05 PM
I have a DW addict confession to make, while doing some mundane stuff online I noticed my cursor moving to the lower right hand corner of the screen, I realized that I was about to try to turn on Time Compression with out even thinking!

I got it bad… :lol:

Oh, this happened to me lots of times :lol: I use the "." and "," keyboard buttons to change time compression .... i remember chatting with my friend on ICQ ... and all of sudden i was pressing those buttons to make her reply faster :lol: Then i realized what am i doing, well its some professional deformation :lol: