Wolfpack Academy: questions, suggestions, or comments

[Onkel Neal]

If you have questions, suggestions, or comments about an exam or course, post there here. thanks

Update Jan 2024

As you may be aware, there have been several significant changes to Wolfpack that will require new Training videos.

As of Jan 6, 2024
Propulsion Systems (Updated)
Obermachinist (Updated)
E-machinist (Updated)

Radioman - currently under revision
Enigma - currently under revision

[Sirjonkey]

really like the academy videos

I would love to take the exames ... but they dont work yet.

I love that diffrent voices are doing the instructions. A big plus.


More indept tutorial of the navigation tools and good suddestion on how to be a good navigator would be welkome addition.

Keep the content comming!!!

[Onkel Neal]

Thanks. How do you mean, they don't work? What happens when you "Take the Exam"? :06:

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/attachment.php?attachmentid=5623&d=1675797504

[Tobias021]

Thanks for the new content, the whole sub looks absolutely wonderful.

When trying to open the test I encounter a problem. It says I don't have permission to open it (and yes, I'm logged in). Is there a problem on my side? I tried the propulsion test.

[Onkel Neal]

Ok, I see what is causing that and it should be fixed, thanks for the help. :Kaleun_Salute:

[Ani]

suggested order of topics not possible due to simple dive officer training requiring propulsion exam as a prerequisite. maybe this was supposed to be a prerequisite for senior dive officer?

[Onkel Neal]

suggested order of topics not possible due to simple dive officer training requiring propulsion exam as a prerequisite. maybe this was supposed to be a prerequisite for senior dive officer?

Ok, thanks, that is an issue, I'll fix it.

Edit: should be fixed now, let me know

[Onkel Neal]

I believe I have fixed it so you can View Answers after a test and see which ones caused you problems.
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/attachment.php?attachmentid=5625&d=1675986075

[Sirjonkey]

Perfect. Had the same.issue... but it is allready fixed

[Onkel Neal]

Commanding Officer Qualification now active. (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2846778#post2846778)

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[Pisces]

I took the navigator exam. 96% score, 26/27. But nothing was shown wrong at the view answers page. All answers shown as correct. Looks like a bug in the answer review.

[Onkel Neal]

Ok I see the problem, yes on one kind of question, Image matching, it does not tell you CORRECT or INCORRECT in the results section.

On question 3, you entered S where you should have entered D.
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/dbtech/vbquiz/actions/get_image.php?image_id=267&image_type=question

I will see about fixing this so it will tell you correct/incorrect for the Image Match type question. :Kaleun_Salute:

[Pisces]

Thick fingers. My Nav skills are sound then. :)

[Onkel Neal]

No doubt.

[wolfeinsamer]

I know realism is great and all but can you please change the font used for the enigma machine. Just too hard to tell some letters eg U & V when not together are practically indistinguishable.

[Onkel Neal]

Agreed, it is a known issue and we will be addressing it. :Kaleun_Salute:

[BrendaEM]

The tutorials are good. I might make flowcharts for the procedures, until I get some practice.

In the tutorials, are 6 of the 8 large ceiling hull-valves working, and two just modeled? Perhaps I just lost count.

There's a bit of overlap between the Propulsion and the Mechanical and Electric, but perhaps that's not a bad thing.

The handle idea, was a good way of...handing the valve status, as you can't feel of it's closed : )

I think I am more intimidated by the electrics than the diesels. I will be watching the videos quite a few times.

For new players, if you don't have it, it might be beneficial to have a period-looking, simulated notebook for with procedures on it. This will reassure new players. The Forest's Survival Manual did have an instruction aspect as well its main purpose to launch item/structure builds. Perhaps the manual could have coffee stains, or have odd remarks. Perhaps it was a gift from an older sailor, passed down to you. While not being too wordy(as this), perhaps it could be written in a way that for instance, states that the Captain has been pressuring me to make the boat be run more efficiently, and this is what is working best.

[The tutorials are the first time I saw the boat in a while. It's looking really good. Even though I have been following the progress reports, I was still amazed. I emailed a friend about it, too.

The dynamic lighting for the cylinder-valves, as well as the port/starboard lights gives a nice effect.

To nitpick, I feel that some of the boat textures/shaders still has a little more patina/texture than an active U-boat would have. Perhaps, at one time, the interior of the boat probably wasn't that detailed, and you might have needed a lot of fullers-earth to sell it, but now, you have so much great geometry to sell the interior. That stated, I don't think you are far off, but perhaps just a notch back, would still let the interior look well-used.

I just saw pics of U-505, and the the ceiling paint also is a bit ivory colored, as specified in Germany's U-Boat painting manual. Also the gray has just a touch of blue in it. I did a RAL color thread elsewhere here, and mocked up some textures, which could be adjusted.]

Looking forward to a beta release!

[lowbow]

Hello Onkel,
I'm about to buy WOLFPACK on Steam but I'm interested in how to go about setting it up to play Singleplayer with bots.
I would be obliged for any advice and help as to go about this.
Kind Regards - lowbow :Kaleun_Salute:

[Onkel Neal]

ahoy longbow, good to hear from you!

This should get you started with solo player using the bots
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2630014#post2630014

:Kaleun_Salute:

[Rebel]

,that's an awful lot of stuff to try to remember. Spent most of today looking at the different videos. None of the videos showed me how to move around the sub. I had one hell of a job just going up the ladder:timeout: hope to find the answer in 36 pages I printed as a manual when I first purchased the game . It was said by Lehman that the gray wolves were going to do more work ,on silent hunter 111.but that was some time ago.A OK ALL BE IN THE LIGHT

[Onkel Neal]

500 exams passed.:Kaleun_Cheers:

[wolfeinsamer]

I'd just like to say thanks Onkel and everyone else involved in Wolfpack :Kaleun_Applaud:. It's really immersive (pun intended) but....

since taking the exams and seeing what's to come I now have to log on twice a day to see if the update has dropped yet :Kaleun_Periskop:. I'm like a kid at Christmas. I don't know how much longer I can wait :Kaleun_Smile:

[Onkel Neal]

Thank you, I appreciate the feedback. the videos and exam software was a lot of work but if you are getting some enjoyment out of it while you learn the game, I am happy.

Neal

[KapitanShad]

I'm a sad old fart who likes to take my time. I'm not in a rush to die. I'm prepared to steam ahead of the convoys calculated course and position my self optimally before the first and subsequent engagements. That means a lot of stand down time.
Of course there is always someone on watch, monitoring the heading and speed and potential threats etc ... but for the rest .... what are they to do .... stand there twitching thumbs ??

What I suggest is that in the ward room there are a pack of cards , chess board, etc, with the choice of various single and multi player games and maybe a personal diary available so the crew can record and save their experiences.

One thing I really wanted in the SH series was a dairy into which I could record my thoughts and even write a novel during those many hours steaming on the surface or creeping in the depths.
Now with the advent of this multi client Coop sim ... surely it would help to reduce that kamikaze impetuousness of the need for instant gratification driven in part by there being no alternatives to reckless bravado .... having such distractions might help slow the pace , build comradery and intensify the immersive fun.

Just a thought.

:Kaleun_Salute:

[Onkel Neal]

Adding an update that will fix the Image Match questions not being shown as correct/incorrect on the View Answers section.

[Bilge_Rat]

Great idea coming up with this. :up:

The videos are very well made and instructive. I thought I knew the game well, but some questions really stumped me.

[Yoxander]

I saw the videos, I know how the game works. Just wanted to ask if there are some hard things about the game Thanks again lads! :)
:Kaleun_Salute:

[Aktungbby]

Yoxander!:Kaleun_Salute:

[Aktungbby]

Ok I see the problem, yes on one kind of question, Image matching, it does not tell you CORRECT or INCORRECT in the results section.

On question 3, you entered S where you should have entered D.
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/dbtech/vbquiz/actions/get_image.php?image_id=267&image_type=question

I will see about fixing this so it will tell you correct/incorrect for the Image Match type question. :Kaleun_Salute:thanks for this, I'm slowly working my way through all the exams; and the navigation one boggles my 72 yearold brain...:timeout:

[Onkel Neal]

Very cool, let me know if you have any questions that are not covered in the Academy.

[Onkel Neal]

I saw the videos, I know how the game works. Just wanted to ask if there are some hard things about the game Thanks again lads! :)
:Kaleun_Salute:


What do you mean, exactly? Most of the game elements take some practice, but are not difficult. Can you list an example?

[Onkel Neal]

E-motor training video & exam will be posted when revision is complete.

[Fidd]

I was astounded to see the wonderful complexity and faithful rendering of diesels and electrics. I foresee absolute mayhem as we learn to not blow out all the lights and send newbies to reset the circuit breakers with the current still on! Oh what larks we'll have! It should make for an interesting game, as it'll slow down the process of diving and make Skippers have to think ahead more.... really looking forward to it!

Any thoughts on modelling the crawl-space around the batteries to bridge cracked battery cells, and animating the (noisy?) reloading of torpedos? If so, getting the reloads from under the floor in the forward torpedo room, and modelling that space when the deck-plates are removed might be interesting?

[Onkel Neal]

Not on the list for the near future. Time to move on to the campaign.:up:

[tigersclaw11]

Seem like the test group for wolfpack is not working all of a sudden. Has anyone got any information on this? cheers

[Aktungbby]

tigers'sclaw11!:Kaleun_Salute: after a 4 year 'silent run'.:up:

[Onkel Neal]

Seem like the test group for wolfpack is not working all of a sudden. Has anyone got any information on this? cheers

Making changes to the update.

[tigersclaw11]

Making changes to the update.

Well I can not longer access the test build, and the code for the test group stopped working? I did log the fault in mantis. Not sure if their is a discord group i should raise this issue in .

[tigersclaw11]

tigers'sclaw11!:Kaleun_Salute: after a 4 year 'silent run'.:up:

Haha! Well said

[Adriatico]

Are there any serious presentations of single player options and gameplay
(possible simplifications of internal procedures ?)
:k_confused:

[ReallyDedPoet]

Building up a few resources as I progress through these. There was a nice Helmsman's Guide. Anything for the Dive Officer? Looking for some pics with labels for the various gauges and dials. I may just end up doing some screenshots and labelling these myself :yep:

[Onkel Neal]

Should be a video for DO and one for Vet DO.

[Eteokles]

Just taking the dive officer exam.
It's wrongly spelled Pappenburg gauge instead of Papenberg

Also, there's questions around the "Dive Safe" Panel for the advanced exam, that panel isn't even in the game yet, how are we supposed to know that?

Another mistake in the advanced dive officer training:
10. To "ride the bubble", you may blow up to ____________ of water from the MBTs.
Answers are either 5PSI or 5cm3, correct is 5m3

[ReallyDedPoet]

Should be a video for DO and one for Vet DO.


Vids are great Neal, just looking for some stills for future reference :)

[ReallyDedPoet]

Even if you don't play this game, the vids, exams and other information is very helpful as
far as understanding the overall management-operation of a submarine :yep:

Very well done and still developing.

[Aktungbby]

Eteocles!:Kaleun_Salute:

[Fidd]

Just taking the dive officer exam.
It's wrongly spelled Pappenburg gauge instead of Papenberg

Also, there's questions around the "Dive Safe" Panel for the advanced exam, that panel isn't even in the game yet, how are we supposed to know that?

Another mistake in the advanced dive officer training:
10. To "ride the bubble", you may blow up to ____________ of water from the MBTs.
Answers are either 5PSI or 5cm3, correct is 5m3

The training videos were made with the new patch in mind, so they are primarily to educate players as much as they are to train current ones. It's not that you're expected to know them, rather that you're expected to know them having watched the videos, in order that you're prepared for the changes in a number of roles.

Not made clear in the video's, but I've noticed that there's no line of sight from the dive-safe panel to either of the two MBT valves, so rather than having the DO open those valves, (as he does now) it's likely that he will instead command "flood MBT's" whilst he watches the panel with other crewmen operating them to precipitate the dive.

[ReallyDedPoet]

Sorry if this has been asked - answered, once you complete an exam, can you get access to all of the correct answers.
For future reference.

[[SJ]Rivet]

Just did the enigma exam. Got 1 question wrong and I know why. Skipped through the choices too quickly. Take your time guys. :doh:


I know I have the option to try again. I did that once in another exam but it felt like cheating

[ReallyDedPoet]

Rivet;2882726']Just did the enigma exam. Got 1 question wrong and I know why. Skipped through the choices too quickly. Take your time guys. :doh:



I'm guilty of zipping through these at times :D:oops: And have suffered the result once or thrice :/\\!!

[ReallyDedPoet]

Sorry if this has been asked - answered, once you complete an exam, can you get access to all of the correct answers.
For future reference.


:Kaleun_Periskop::D

[NoddyAsh]

The training video seems to have been removed on the Ship Identification Exam.

Russ

[Fidd]

There have been a few changes to the engines, mostly slight simplification as regards "going up though the gears" on the e-motor. It's now also possible to flood the cylinders with sea-water, which I believe was not a thing when the Academy film was made. There are also a number of problems one can get into with exceeding the motor-current, particularly when recharging.

I do not know, but I would not be surprised to see, an edited version of the training film to bring things up to date, or, a new film to cover these new bits at some point before the patch. If no such film is produced there should now be a small cadre of us who've been practicing whilst testing, who can give advice and take you through the basics. Expect to spend a LOT of time doing the "walk of shame" to reset the breakers! I know I did - and occasionally still do!

Even when you've learned the usual evolutions, you'll find that you may need to come to some agreement about how things are done with your usual captain, especially if it's just you at the back. For example, ringing Half-Ahead on diesels AND recharge, is (IMHO) best done with both diesels charging, and with as many rpm as you manage before the motor (generator in this case) current is exceeded. This will recharge very quickly, whereupon the e-motors are turned off, and full-power with diesels brought up. The reasons for this are twofold. One, it'll mean equal thrust from both props at all times, which will mean the helmsman is happy, as it'll be easier to hold a heading. Two, it'll allow the diesels to warm slowly during that charge period, and you'll find it much easier to later develop full power. That just works for me and my skipper. A certain amount of exploration and discussion may be required, as if your captain asks for full power on stone cold engines... the answer sometimes is just "Can't!"

Plan on 3 weeks utter chaos until this shakes down, and try and hook up with an ex-tester, most will have a reasonable idea of how to operate the engines, or at least, what works for them!

Lastly, expect some changes to now common routines. Some previously simple routines, such as nailing a particular speed, are harder now because you can only adjust it according to what you're told, and exactly getting a given speed on diesels is much less straightforward. Similarly, doing a "quick stop" to zero kts, currently easy, will required more teamwork and will be much harder than currently, or at least doing do quickly is.

[Pakoa]

First HAPPY NEW YEAR 2024 :Kaleun_Party: , I am Pakoa, a member of Subsim for a few years now although I have not had much, or any, social activity, I have only downloaded Mods for S.H V, and Dangerus water. Back in the day I received a message from subsim in reference to the academy for WolfPack with certification included and it seemed like a majestic idea, today, January 1, 2024 I decided to enter it, follow the video tutorials and proceed to examine myself in each 'trade' starting naturally from scratch. What is my surprise that when taking the first exam as a Helmsman when answering the first 10 questions I try to go to page 2 to answer the following ones, there is no way for me to turn the page, no matter how many times I click 'Next' I can't do it , nothing happens, it stays as it is, with my first 10 answers but without turning the page. Can someone give me some clue as to what is happening? Thank you all, glad to start here and I wish you a happy new year:Kaleun_Cheers:. Best regards :Kaleun_Salute:

[Aktungbby]

Pakoa!:Kaleun_Salute:...the :subsim: infamous 7-year-itch brings U 2 the surface from 'silent running' since joining in 2016!:yeah: lf no one else assists U, a PM to Onkel Neal for advice might help. I'm working my way slowly thru the training myself, but have not had this problemo.

[Onkel Neal]

Update Jan 2024

As you may be aware, there have been several significant changes to Wolfpack that will require new Training videos.

As of Jan 6, 2024
Propulsion Systems (Updated)
Obermachinist (Updated)
E-machinist (Updated)

Radioman - currently under revision
Enigma - currently under revision


https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2851589#post2851589

[Onkel Neal]

Update Jan 2024

As you may be aware, there have been several significant changes to Wolfpack that will require new Training videos.

As of Jan 6, 2024
Propulsion Systems (Updated)
Obermachinist (Updated)
E-machinist (Updated)

Radioman - currently under revision
Enigma - currently under revision



Feb 2024
Radioman Training video is complete. (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2843203#post2843203)

Enigma training has been rolled into Radioman Training.

[BiggA94]

Hi there, I have currently gone though the helmsman trainings.

There are two things i have found so far that may help others in the future.
The first Helmsman Quiz is asking for questions, that are not coved in the first video, but in Fox's guide or the Senior Helmsman Video (which is the second Test). Which is not a problem per se, since it is mentioned, that the written guide is another resource.

On the other hand, there is a Problem with one question:
The Video tells us, the correct speed after a dive is All Ahead Half (5:28), while Fox's guide is saying it should be Dead Slow (3.3 - Dive Orders, Routine Dive, Execution).

Also, I can't seem to see any explanations on the results page.

[Onkel Neal]

Hi there, I have currently gone though the helmsman trainings.

There are two things i have found so far that may help others in the future.
The first Helmsman Quiz is asking for questions, that are not coved in the first video, but in Fox's guide or the Senior Helmsman Video (which is the second Test). Which is not a problem per se, since it is mentioned, that the written guide is another resource.

On the other hand, there is a Problem with one question:
The Video tells us, the correct speed after a dive is All Ahead Half (5:28), while Fox's guide is saying it should be Dead Slow (3.3 - Dive Orders, Routine Dive, Execution).

Also, I can't seem to see any explanations on the results page.


Thanks, can you direct me to which questions are not covered in the video?

correct speed after a dive was probably Full historically; The training goes with Half as a compromise. Diving at Dead Slow would be a very long process.

[Aktungbby]

BiggA94!:Kaleun_Salute:

[Fidd]

Ideally it should be a capitalised cursive "hand-written" font? (But not a Germanic font?)

Fitting those forms into a (non-existant) type-writer would be difficult to space correctly, (and taking down morse and typing it in real-time would be too slow?)

[Onkel Neal]

Senior Dive Officer exam has had two answers corrected, thanks tmaccabe :Kaleun_Cheers:

[Raf1394]

I finished a few of the exams. And they are fine.
But one little point i need to point out, is that some questions can have different good answers, it depends what kind of captain you have.

Or more importantly the style of the captain.

[franklee]

Senior Dive Officer exam has had two answers corrected, thanks tmaccabe :Kaleun_Cheers:

Great to see the updates in Wolfpack Academy! Looking forward to the revised Radioman and Enigma modules. Thanks for keeping the training materials current.

[Aktungbby]

franklee!:Kaleun_Salute: