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Tonci87

11-16-22, 02:06 PM

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=1410&pictureid=13406

Hello,

I started to play a new Campaign with the amazing GWX OneAlex Edition Mod compilation.

I like a challenge, so these will be the rules for this Campaign:

- Dead is dead. When I die, the campaign ends.
- Full realism settings. Only the external camera is allowed for filming purposes
- Manual Targeting
- No recognition manual for random merchant ships
- Attempt to abide by the historical orders in regards to the London Naval Treaty, Operating Procedures and Restrictions
:timeout:

Will this be a long campaign or will I die fairly soon?

You are very welcome to watch how I progress and to discuss it

Here is the first episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA_Icl0akrw

Second Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chXPwSvSovA

Third Episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwx6xc2VvmA

Episode 4:
We leave on our second war patrol and things don´t go that well....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUPA8EMw2oI

Episode 5:
The Skagerrak is a stormy place, as we search for enemy shipping
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7W5ESsjvZU

Episode 6
The day gets a lot more explosive than I thought
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_M1C7NvRLA

Episode 7
Bad Weather causes issues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhyB6a867vA

Episode 8
Our target surprises us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_Z9giYO2bs

Episode 9
A Tutorial on how to use the historical Ausdampfverfahren
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFVqPLR7U_E

Episode 10
We depart on our 4th war patrol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgLaqKnSTUo

Episode 11
Finally we get to engage a Convoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKH78YpwjvU

Episode 12
Does our luck run out? We become the hunted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POAzQSqoImE

Episode 13
We intercept a convoy in the worst imaginable weather conditions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnnKw5UCuFY

Episode 14
Another daring surface attack on a convoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hnv7X9JRGQ

Episode 15
The attack on the convoy continues, but there is a destroyer sized problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmHb--YKAXU

Episode 16
We embark on our very short 6th war patrol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqqTXuyMaWo

Episode 17
We embark as part of Operation Weserübung
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpfLg-Vk5t8

Episode 18
We continue the engagement with the landing force.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uREyRhFWduI

Episode 19
We have a new U-boat, and a convoy to attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjxCmkIFCv4

Episode 20
While disengaging from the convoy, we encounter some straglers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HReRtrOonmI

Episode 21
It can be surprising hard to sink a ship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhLrjtAR5Ow

Episode 22
The bad weather provides an opportunity for a swift surface attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42zoRf7cpSg

Episode 23
This one is explosive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0CW9csKjvU

Episode 24
There is not much one can do when the other side outguns you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwfzTndn-f4

Episode 25
We encounter an unusual ship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J54bZNSbc_M

Episode 26
A ship appears out of the fog....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss-vfg22YjU

Episode 27
We return home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpCqgCICcbY

Episode 28
We start a new patrol and I show how to plot an attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAvWaorjeqo

Episode 29
A terrifyingly quick end
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC3RsfPJ2dw

Episode 30
Things don´t work out the way I wanted them to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spPAk3Qliks

Episode 31
Grey skies create a fitting scene for the unfolding tragedy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmuRywSNw2E

Episode 32
Today I show you how to calculate an intercept course for map contacts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SIDGx6KP2I

Episode 33
We once again use the Ausdampfverfahren to get our torps into the target
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1O7SC9r8SA

Episode 34
The English keep me busy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b80-pampQ4M

Episode 35
The Luftwaffe makes an appearance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7KI7P0NqfE

Episode 36
We have to decide. Do we continue the attack?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VagF-Z9BZJo

Episode 37
An attack takes an unexpected turn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lj4Otp1-VI

Episode 38
Sometimes you make the wrong call
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIFXCSrBj0k

Episode 39
Aerial combat. How often do you see that in Silent Hunter?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cpAJbxFgw0

Episode 40
We embark on the long voyage to our next patrol area
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjua1WavNyA

Episode 41
We encounter a special target
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YETYQTor8Ug

Episode 42
We come across a convoy, but wait, what is that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xg7RDXnmH4

Episode 43
Will we be able to get away from the Auxiliary cruiser in time?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXkrtJpSolw

Episode 44
We get the opportunity for a secret supply run
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVvbxDuKrYs

Episode 45
An often overlooked part of the u-boat warfare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPqw8V6A160

Episode 46
A long search might finally pay off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3MzWgb51Zk

Episode 47
We end the patrol. Would you have fired at the ship?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwwcfXS3Yyc

Episode 48
Departing on a new Patrol, and having a few encounters, I could have done without
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho7eWlBxnaU

Episode 49
This one is about a frustrating circumstance that Submarine commanders had to deal with at sea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEAqIgAU-1I

Episode 50
sometimes you have to be quick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWIVW18FFxQ

Episode 51
Misfortune strikes, but I can´t explain why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85aP52reDCw

Episode 52
Events take a rather unexpected turn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q50yZ6RZjHM

Episode 53
Fuel burns quite nicely
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDNUZF_-KoY

Episode 54
We get a few shots at a big target
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3enAd0QJnXk

Episode 55
We got a bit too curious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh-NbRQ_occ

Episode 56
The Captain seeks to redeem himself for the almost fatal mistake he made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC8MZ3wmC9w

Episode 57
We continue the attack on the enemy convoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DgztjPBcTo

Episode 58
We end the patrol, but not in the way we intended
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6J1JNa1-Cc

Episode 59
After a long break, U 55 leaves for another patrol...and doesn´t get very far...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrjq4ovNmF4

Episode 60
Rapidly changing circumstances put me in a tricky situation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIjHqD_dGxM

Episode 61
Did our attack on the lone merchant draw away the escort of the small convoy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuYYWA2i1mw

Episode 62
A lone Target meets a very explosive end
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TZ5sBjQJY4

Episode 63
We take a look at something unique
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbJAsmV19dE

Episode 64
Scary things happen at night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsNF3VyfG6w

Episode 65
U 55 finally encounters a convoy, but things don´t go according to the captains plan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0Lm9BI2rjg

Episode 66
There might be a reason for why we have been detected while approaching the convoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItY1iP65NDY

Episode 67
This is a close one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUl5neeOGmI

Episode 68
We end the patrol, but the way to Lorient is dangerous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjd3sKOrrMw

Episode 69
The beginning of a new patrol, and the discovery of a serious issue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoCHbdl4tP4

Episode 70
I am assured that the best pilots of the British empire are stationed in Africa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls7_CQF0SbI

Episode 71
Our newly assigned patrol area is as calm as it gets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQgHeFzUbgQ

Episode 72
An encounter in the dark turns into an unexpected firefight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAvF0NBrkYA

Episode 73
For I think the very first time, I saw a ship capsize, just completely roll over, in SH3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ1DM2I5yss

Episode 74
We have a very close call, which shows why a periscope check is very important
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qMU1z-Ir8U

Episode 75
We are finishing the current patrol in challenging weather conditions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3HrxsmuJds

Episode 76
We go on our first patrol with our new boat, as the war takes a surprising turn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FO6lxT3h08

Episode 77
U 80 is facing it´s first engagement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjVPcJEwYRE

Episode 78
Despite the horrible weather conditions, we attempt to reengage the convoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F37JXAgU4Q

Episode 79
We encounter and engage a small convoy, however the torpedo crew makes too much noise while we approach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnEuRGwkQaY

Episode 80
We conduct a little Experiment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sugnejas3fg

Episode 81
The game of cat and mouse with the destroyer continues...... until the mouse has had enough of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faAQHUpbSw4

Episode 82
We finish taking apart the small convoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0o7MDDE5aA

Episode 83
We encounter an enemy convoy, but only have one torpedo left. Will it strike a target, or are we braving the escorts only to miss?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3dR2gvLsrU

Episode 84
I look forward to seeing Brest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urStQ68fEm0

Episode 85
Just a few days after leaving Brest we encounter a ship that proves to be very resilient
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnZevoYjcow

Episode 86
Diplomacy sometimes has to be considered when deciding on attacking targets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX48BV_1jJ0

Episode 87
The crew experiences a great range of emotions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCf191TYkII

Episode 88
I find a convoy, but these sailors are very alert and careful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_r8Xdz6szc

Episode 89
Shortly after disengaging from the convoy, we spot smoke on the horizon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zlE-IVzVX0

Episode 90
We encounter another convoy. Soon the night is full of flames
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl4gWgOQ_68

Episode 91
An unfulfilled opportunity leaves sadness behind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnsst_oaTz0

Episode 92
At long last, we depart on another patrol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umpmVxXjTpQ

Episode 93
Sometimes you go in blind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQk2e42_A84

GrenSo

11-16-22, 03:59 PM

Nice video :Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

Orffen

11-16-22, 11:15 PM

Love it Toni. Found your channel through the Graviteam Tactics videos originally - got excited when I saw this one pop up. :yeah:

Have you checked out Fifi's NYGM enhancements? Would love to see some YouTube videos with that one in the future.

Niume

11-20-22, 04:51 AM

You got yourself a new subscriber :Kaleun_Salute::Kaleun_Wink:

lederhosen

11-20-22, 06:17 AM

Sehr gut !! wird auch folgen.

SnipersHunter

11-20-22, 09:39 AM

Really enjoyable so far Tonci!

ExFishermanBob

11-23-22, 08:22 AM

Excellent - really shows off SH3 and your narration is very clear. Off to download the mod now...

Tonci87

11-23-22, 12:18 PM

And here is episode 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chXPwSvSovA

:Kaleun_Salute:

lederhosen

11-27-22, 06:36 AM

Which mods did you add to GWX ??

danke

kyle9154

11-27-22, 07:02 AM

Which mods did you add to GWX ??

danke

He didn't add any mods really, he's playing the all in one Onealex compilation mod. All the best mods in one and simple to install, you can get here on the onealex discord server - https://discord.gg/bKCdQekE4W

lederhosen

11-27-22, 07:12 AM

true, but he has placed some other mods inside the Onealex GWX mod. I'd like to use them too (eg. in the radio room)

Tonci87

11-30-22, 01:26 PM

true, but he has placed some other mods inside the Onealex GWX mod. I'd like to use them too (eg. in the radio room)

It is the Just follow Orders mod that I edited so it works with OneAlex. I will release that edit soon.

For now, here is a new Episode to enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gwx6xc2VvmA

lederhosen

12-05-22, 01:29 PM

Well done that Crew !!

Tonci87

12-07-22, 05:06 PM

Episode 4:
We leave on our second war patrol and things don´t go that well....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUPA8EMw2oI

Tonci87

12-14-22, 07:17 PM

Episode 5:
The Skagerrak is a stormy place as we search for enemy shipping
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7W5ESsjvZU

Tonci87

12-21-22, 01:46 PM

Episode 6
The day gets a lot more explosive than I thought
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_M1C7NvRLA

Tonci87

12-28-22, 01:50 PM

Episode 7
Bad Weather causes issues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhyB6a867vA

lederhosen

12-29-22, 05:40 AM

well done

Tonci87

01-04-23, 03:44 PM

Episode 8
Our target surprises us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_Z9giYO2bs

Tonci87

01-11-23, 05:57 PM

Episode 9
A Tutorial on how to use the historical Ausdampfverfahren
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFVqPLR7U_E

Tonci87

01-18-23, 04:03 PM

Episode 10
We depart on our 4th war patrol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgLaqKnSTUo

lederhosen

01-21-23, 12:31 PM

well done. keep going.
any word on a JGSME release of just follow orders ?:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

Tonci87

01-25-23, 01:22 PM

EP 11: Finally we get to engage a Convoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKH78YpwjvU

Hooston

01-25-23, 05:50 PM

I have to admire your cool, I've never dared to sail right into a convoy on the surface. To then mess about lining up the perfect shot is even more admirable. Just like a real ace.
To quibble, I've been told off about using "decks awash" on this forum. I understand it was too risky as it could make the boat dive suddenly, particularly if travelling at any speed. Perhaps it was correct that it gave you trouble. I've heard of allied ASW people speculating about Uboats "well trimmed down" but not from the German end.
All the searchlights on the merchants can't be right, especially when they have no guns. I believe they would not show lights under attack. There's a mod to disable the merchant searchlights which you (and OneAlex!) should take a look at. I have heard of complaints (in Middlebrook's book I think) about merchants firing starshells too much later in the war - these would make more sense, but still not a good idea.

Tonci87

01-26-23, 04:43 PM

Staying on the surface has advantages.
-Much better situational awareness
-Higher speed
-Better maneuverability

So whenever I can, I try to stay surfaced. Might have to take a look at that mod you mention.
I agree that freighters most likely wouldn´t use their lights, UNLESS they think they spotted something in the water.

Tonci87

02-01-23, 05:00 PM

Episode 12
Does our luck run out? We become the hunted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POAzQSqoImE

Hooston

02-02-23, 04:10 AM

Excellent episode, things are warming up nicely after a slow start. Narrative pacing would call for a couple of boring ones now...
Number of depth charges is discussed here https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=254413. Two unknowns - number carried in real life was very variable and not sure how it is captured in the game. Escorts do run out eventually but they keep up attack runs until they lose contact, which while realistic is very annoying late war.

I find going to flank speed draws escorts from across the whole convoy. They don't seem to talk to each other and if deep 4 knots is enough for dodging. More difficult in only 100 metres of water!

Tonci87

02-08-23, 01:48 PM

Episode 13
We intercept a convoy in the worst imaginable weather conditions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnnKw5UCuFY

Tonci87

02-17-23, 05:18 PM

Episode 14
Another daring surface attack on a convoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hnv7X9JRGQ

Tonci87

02-22-23, 12:10 PM

Episode 15
The attack on the convoy continues, but there is a destroyer sized problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmHb--YKAXU

lederhosen

02-27-23, 01:15 AM

wow, 15 vids and still going

Tonci87

02-27-23, 11:36 AM

It will keep going until I die, which can be at any point :D

Tonci87

03-01-23, 12:06 PM

Episode 16: We embark on our very short 6th war patrol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqqTXuyMaWo

Tonci87

03-08-23, 01:13 PM

Episode 17
We embark as part of Operation Weserübung
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpfLg-Vk5t8

CapZap1970

03-08-23, 04:43 PM

Episode 17
We embark as part of Operation Weserübung
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpfLg-Vk5t8

Great episode!!! :Kaleun_Applaud:

Tonci87

03-15-23, 12:14 PM

Episode 18
We continue the engagement with the landing force.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uREyRhFWduI

GrenSo

03-16-23, 01:20 AM

Your videos are great and perfect for a quiet evening when you want to relax after work.

:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up::Kaleun_Applaud::Kaleun_Thumbs_U p:

rik007

03-20-23, 02:53 AM

My tip to survive is: only play sh3 when you are fully relaxed. Usually it goes wrong when you are in a hurry or (a bit) stressed and make 'stupid' decisions....

Tonci87

04-05-23, 05:26 PM

Episode 19
We have a new U-boat, and a convoy to attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjxCmkIFCv4

lederhosen

04-06-23, 03:11 AM

well done

Tonci87

04-12-23, 11:42 AM

Episode 20
While disengaging from the convoy, we encounter some straglers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HReRtrOonmI

Hooston

04-12-23, 02:02 PM

Another excellent episode. Wolfpack345 will have to up his game to match this. Firing torpedo after torpedo at a helpless merchant in a storm - when do you give up? We've all been there.

Despite the best efforts of the modders merchants in GWX tend to suffer in rough weather. Looks like Onealex has this old problem, I think he did mess with the ship dynamics. A little peril on the sea is OK, but not this much. Flower class corvettes are especially susceptible to sinking in storms, but IRL they were famously seaworthy. I've found that it is important to NOT enable seasonal or more severe wave height in SH3 Commander.
The east coast of Britain has a LOT of mines in GWX, although they are spread thin. I would try patrolling somewhere else or you may have a short career with a not so dramatic end.

Tonci87

04-20-23, 11:16 AM

Well, it is my assigned patrol area, I´m sure BDU knows if there are mines there :doh:

Episode 21
It can be surprising hard to sink a ship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhLrjtAR5Ow

Tonci87

04-26-23, 11:44 AM

Episode 22
The bad weather provides an opportunity for a swift surface attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42zoRf7cpSg

Tonci87

05-03-23, 02:52 PM

Episode 23
This one is explosive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0CW9csKjvU

Hooston

05-04-23, 03:32 AM

Tonci87

05-10-23, 04:40 PM

Very funny. Long lecture about the stupidity of gun actions, followed by repeated stupidity. I like it. The "stay out of gun arc" trick only works on stopped ships.
What to do about the mines? The east coast barrier was to some extent a bluff and the thin spread of mines in GWX is probably fairly accurate. I don't know if the mines will affect you on the surface in the game, the fields laid had varying purposes as the war progressed, see https://naval-history.net/xGM-Ops-Minelaying.htm
The only work around I know is to use the periscope underwater, but this is NOT realistic. IRL you cannot see very far underwater in the North Sea.

I don´t think that this particular minefield will affect me while I´m on the surface, but I can´t know if there are areas where the mines are positioned closer to the surface.

Episode 24
There is not much one can do when the other side outguns you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwfzTndn-f4

Tonci87

05-17-23, 11:11 AM

Episode 25
We encounter an unusual ship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J54bZNSbc_M

Tonci87

05-24-23, 12:46 PM

Episode 26
A ship appears out of the fog....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss-vfg22YjU

lederhosen

05-25-23, 01:01 AM

wow, still going strong

Tonci87

05-25-23, 10:55 AM

wow, still going strong

I´m doing my best :D

Tonci87

05-31-23, 12:12 PM

Episode 27
We return home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpCqgCICcbY

Mister_M

06-01-23, 01:41 AM

Episode 27
We return home
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpCqgCICcbY

21:18 : Genius! :up: :haha:

By the way, what is this march music? It's very appropriate for a successfull return at port. :yep:

Tonci87

06-10-23, 10:24 AM

Episode 28
We start a new patrol and I show how to plot an attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAvWaorjeqo

lederhosen

06-11-23, 03:00 AM

that was cool. Can't win everytime.

Hooston

06-11-23, 03:22 AM

Tonci87

06-11-23, 05:52 AM

Whilst running a plot might be realistic, is perfect plotting compatible with full realism? It all seems to assume that your boat can maintain a perfectly accurate heading and speed and plot its own position perfectly. It all works perfectly in the game...

It's also fortunate that your targets only zig zag AFTER you have attacked them.

Enjoying the different styles of you and Wolfpack345. I think you have the edge at the moment because of your greater nerd coefficient!

Nerd coefficient, good one LOL :D

You are of course right in that this method works best in good conditions.
It will not work if the ships vary their course or speed, and I imagine it would work less well in rough weather (although I would expect a helmsman to be able to stay on course if the boat is submerged and a navigator to make an accurate plot).
I had used this method in SH5 TWOS with the real navigation mod, and it still worked, it just required me to plot my own position as well.

In the next episode I will be attacking another ship with the same method (I will do the plotting off camera though), and either because of errors in my measurements when the ship was still at a steep AOB, or because of the ship changing its speed over time I had measurements from 5,5kn to 8kn.
A significant spread.
In such circumstances I advise to use the value measured with the last observations in context with the average speed measured so far.

That is likely to give a good result.

Tonci87

06-14-23, 03:14 PM

Episode 29
A terrifyingly quick end
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC3RsfPJ2dw

Tonci87

06-21-23, 11:21 AM

Episode 30
Things don´t work out the way I wanted them to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spPAk3Qliks

Tonci87

06-28-23, 11:06 AM

Episode 31
Grey skies create a fitting scene for the unfolding tragedy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmuRywSNw2E

Tonci87

07-05-23, 11:15 AM

Episode 32
Today I show you how to calculate an intercept course for map contacts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SIDGx6KP2I

lederhosen

07-12-23, 05:48 AM

well done, keep going

Tonci87

07-12-23, 11:19 AM

Episode 33
We once again use the Ausdampfverfahren to get our torps into the target
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1O7SC9r8SA

Tonci87

07-19-23, 12:20 PM

Episode 34
The English keep me busy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b80-pampQ4M

Tonci87

08-23-23, 12:16 PM

I´ve been on vacation, so now you are getting multiple episodes in one post :)

Episode 35
The Luftwaffe makes an appearance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7KI7P0NqfE

Episode 36
We have to decide. Do we continue the attack?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VagF-Z9BZJo

Episode 37
An attack takes an unexpected turn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Lj4Otp1-VI

Episode 38
Sometimes you make the wrong call
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIFXCSrBj0k

Hooston

08-23-23, 10:50 PM

Welcome back.

It spoils things having the ship class displayed in the Uzo and periscope view. It's fairly easy to disable - see this link:

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=151554
I'm surprised Onealex has not done this for you.

Kal_Maximus_U669

08-29-23, 01:15 PM

My dear Tonci87 my best greetings ...
Thank you for your work your episodes its impeccable .. I have loved your channel for a long time ... I wish you good luck in your projects and thank you ...
Sincerely Kal Maximus U669 :yep::salute::salute:

Tonci87

08-30-23, 11:08 AM

Episode 39
Aerial combat. How often do you see that in Silent Hunter?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cpAJbxFgw0

@Hooston I´ll see if I can disable the ship class in the UZO. Thank you for the link

@Kal_Maximus_U669 Thank you :)

Imamar

09-05-23, 07:15 AM

Great Let's play Tonci! I really like how you explain all those different kind of RL tactics! It's also very interesting to see it at 100% realism! :Kaleun_Cheers:

Hooston

09-06-23, 04:05 PM

It's a great series, the best SH3 play through I've seen. There's a real attempt to apply authentic tactics, which are all carefully explained.
However using the exterior view when the AI is fighting itself is guaranteed comedy gold. It would be more polite to look away. One day we will get a pack attack on a convoy and the insanity will hit new levels. I can't wait.

Tonci87

09-13-23, 11:17 AM

Episode 40
We embark on the long voyage to our next patrol area
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjua1WavNyA

Tonci87

09-20-23, 11:15 AM

Episode 41
We encounter a special target
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YETYQTor8Ug

Tonci87

09-27-23, 11:01 AM

Episode 42
We come across a convoy, but wait, what is that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xg7RDXnmH4

John Pancoast

09-28-23, 09:29 AM

I´ve been on vacation, so now you are getting multiple episodes in one post :)

Episode 35
The Luftwaffe makes an appearance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7KI7P0NqfE

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Speaking of a/c, if desired, an edit of the various airbase.cfg files would be in order if one wants more "realistic" attacks by allied air vs. your u-boat.
I.e, the squadron numbers should read "1", not "2", as the only u-boat hunting that was (sometimes) done in pairs was off of the U.S. escort carriers.

Tonci87

10-04-23, 11:52 AM

Episode 43
Will we be able to get away from the Auxiliary cruiser in time?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXkrtJpSolw

Tonci87

10-11-23, 11:26 AM

Episode 44
We get the opportunity for a secret supply run
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVvbxDuKrYs

Tonci87

10-18-23, 11:25 AM

Episode 45
An often overlooked part of the u-boat warfare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPqw8V6A160

Tonci87

10-26-23, 02:23 PM

Episode 46
A long search might finally pay off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3MzWgb51Zk

Kal_Maximus_U669

10-26-23, 04:01 PM

An excellent stream THxxxl Tonci87...as usual..!!!thank you for your work...:yeah:
Ah, I almost forgot Das Brot, it’s really cool...:har::har::har:

Tonci87

11-01-23, 04:31 PM

Episode 47
We end the patrol. Tell me, would you have fired at the ship?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwwcfXS3Yyc

@Kal_Maximus_U669 the Das Brot Sketch is awesome :D

lederhosen

11-02-23, 01:19 AM

Well done. Without the JFO mod you use I would of fired I think.

Tonci87

11-15-23, 02:24 PM

Episode 48
Departing on a new Patrol, and having a few encounters, I could have done without
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho7eWlBxnaU

lederhosen

11-16-23, 03:21 PM

:har: pech

Tonci87

11-22-23, 12:16 PM

Episode 49
This one is about a frustrating circumstance that Submarine commanders had to deal with at sea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEAqIgAU-1I

Tonci87

11-29-23, 04:59 PM

Episode 50
sometimes you have to be quick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWIVW18FFxQ

Tonci87

12-06-23, 04:36 PM

Episode 51
Misfortune strikes, but I can´t explain why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85aP52reDCw

Tonci87

12-13-23, 04:14 PM

Episode 52
Events take a rather unexpected turn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q50yZ6RZjHM

Tonci87

12-20-23, 06:16 PM

Episode 53
Fuel burns quite nicely
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDNUZF_-KoY

Tonci87

12-27-23, 05:47 PM

Episode 54
We get a few shots at a big target
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3enAd0QJnXk

lederhosen

12-31-23, 06:37 AM

well done...as always.

guten rutsch ins neue jahr 2024

Tonci87

01-03-24, 12:51 PM

Thank you :)
And we are starting the new year with a bang...quite a lot of bangs actually

Episode 55
We got a bit too curious
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh-NbRQ_occ

Tonci87

01-10-24, 12:53 PM

Episode 56
The Captain seeks to redeem himself for the almost fatal mistake he made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC8MZ3wmC9w

Hooston

01-10-24, 06:57 PM

Excellent episodes as usual, I like the way you are slowly chipping away at your Kaleun's morale. What will he do if he is sent off to a training role?
However two annoying things about modded SH3 in the last couple of episodes:
GWX escorts always seem to get their initial contacts with passive hydrophones, which are super sensitive out to around 6-8km. They use ASDIC for depth charge runs only. If you watch the near contemporary film "The Cruel Sea" from 1953 you will see that escorts used active ASDIC almost all the time and it was the primary sensor, which is enough to tell you passive detection was no use beyond about 1.5km. I guess the passive function of ASDIC was used to confirm an ASDIC target really was a submarine and also when quietly waiting above a submarine that had gone deep. I think someone in the game or mod team was applying modern tactics and technology or simply made a mistake. I prefer NYGM for this aspect, it seems better to me.
The weather is too bad too often. Worse, with many mods too many ships sink simply due to the weather. I find it useful to check the wave height multiplier and seasonal effects options are turned off in Silent Hunter Commander.

Tonci87

01-17-24, 12:19 PM

I agree with you.
The passive Hydrophone on escorts seems to be a bit too sensitive at times.
Regarding the weather: Well it is winter and the weather is always worse during the winter months, and what we have in game is still very tame compared to how it can be in real life. So I can´t complain about that.

Episode 57 of this series that has just received the Best of Subsim 2023 Award.
Thank you very much for nominating me!

We continue the attack on the enemy convoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DgztjPBcTo

Tonci87

01-27-24, 06:04 PM

Episode 58
We end the patrol, but not in the way we intended
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6J1JNa1-Cc

John Pancoast

01-31-24, 03:07 AM

Tonci87

03-07-24, 12:11 PM

Episode 59
After a long break, U 55 leaves for another patrol...and doesn´t get very far...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrjq4ovNmF4

Tonci87

03-16-24, 07:20 PM

Episode 60
Rapidly changing circumstances put me in a tricky situation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIjHqD_dGxM

Tonci87

03-20-24, 12:51 PM

Episode 61

Did our attack on the lone merchant draw away the escort of the small convoy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuYYWA2i1mw

Hooston

03-22-24, 03:27 PM

My understanding from others on this forum is that the problem with running "decks awash" is one of safety. In running decks awash you have a similar problem to maintaining periscope depth, but with a lot less margin to play with and a dead watch crew if you get it wrong. Worse, the sudden change in flow patterns from no water on deck to water on the deck would make for very unstable hydrodynamics. I guess it was possible for a good crew in calm weather but much too dangerous otherwise.
The only historical accounts I am aware of are Gunther Prien in Scapa Flow and Herbert Werner in the Bay of Biscay (in the book Iron Coffins). See https://uboat.net/forums/read.php?3,34391,34391#msg-34391 It sounds like the technique was to run with slight negative bouyancy and the planes at an up angle; but hard to see how this could be controlled, especially at high speed.

Gamewise I have no idea if decks awash actually makes a difference in game and whether it was considered when the modders were setting detection parameters. It's a bit like sneaking some unrealistic extra knots out of the boat with realistic hydroplane angles...

Tonci87

03-27-24, 12:34 PM

Episode 62

A lone Target meets a very explosive end
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TZ5sBjQJY4

iambecomelife

04-01-24, 04:35 PM

Loving it! Especially when I don't have time for a career myself, the videos and play style are very good - thanks for sharing :arrgh!:

Tonci87

04-03-24, 11:27 AM

Episode 63
We take a look at something unique
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbJAsmV19dE

Hooston

04-03-24, 02:58 PM

I strongly disagree with your comments on SH3 aircraft.
Coastal Command did indeed operate the PBY/Catalina (and also the Liberator and B17) . In fact a few months later than shown in your video it was a Catalina (being flown by a "neutral" US aviator on exchange) that regained contact with the Bismarck as it made for Brest. The PBY was famously slow, so plenty of time to dive.
The problem with a bomb is that if it is reasonably powerful it has to have a delay fuse to protect the dropping aircraft, which would mean it would explode too deep unless it was a direct hit. Depth charges replaced bombs but it was found fairly soon that using any settings other than 25 feet was a waste of time as the chances of a hit on a uboat that was below periscope depth were too small to worry about. SH3 does not capture this very well and airborne depth charges are a threat at moderate depths.

A uboat was a terrible gun platform and indeed it was found that manually aimed AA guns were incredibly bad at hitting anything. The Bismarck mounted a large array of AA weaponry (including 12 20mm flak and 16 dodgy 37mm flak) but failed to down a single biplane aircraft in two separate attacks in which the attacking aircraft got close enough to use their machine guns against the battleship. Several Swordfish were damaged, and yes some did break off their attacks. However it is unlikely that a single 20mm would have that effect, In photos I have seen of uboats under attack it is the uboat crew that are hiding from the aircraft guns.
Late war boats with many more flak guns managed to bring down slightly more aircraft than boats destroyed, but the British were prepared to accept this ratio. Most attacks would be a no-score draw. Towards the end of the war a boat that chose to fight it out on the surface was a big threat to a Swordfish from an escort carrier, but the aircraft could wait until the boat started to dive, or whistle up some Wildcats to strafe, or call up the nearest escort. Late war Swordfish were armed with rockets, which helped considerably.

Sadly there's not much that can be done for the SH3 AI. For example the Catalinas did not attack on their first pass because of a known bug with one of the highest levels of crew experience.

Having said all that, great video. Even if you were trolling for footage by not diving during the air attack.... :hmmm:

Tonci87

04-17-24, 06:51 PM

Episode 64
Scary things happen at night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsNF3VyfG6w

Tonci87

04-24-24, 11:13 AM

Episode 65
U 55 finally encounters a convoy, but things don´t go according to the captains plan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0Lm9BI2rjg

Hooston

04-24-24, 02:29 PM

"Goddam torpedo malfunctions"
No, not that one

"I have the feeling that I am getting rusty"
Getting closer...

Normally you are super cool in a crisis, but this time you seemed to spend a lot of time dithering instead of firing torpedoes. You then got red/green colour blindness on the AOB gauge. I love the way you get it wrong twice, once for the bow tubes then again in reverse for the stern tube shot. Then you accidentally sank the biggest ship in the convoy instead of the "meh" C3 cargo you aimed at!
I noticed the weather report changed to "excellent visibility" for a short time just after you first dived. Was there a temporary change in visibility? I didn't think that was a thing in SH3, but I've not played OneAlex.
Exciting stuff nonetheless. I actually prefer ranting at your videos to playing the game myself. More practice needed, which means posting more often :03:

Tonci87

05-01-24, 01:37 PM

Yeah, I realized the AOB mistake after all the comments came flooding in :D
I think the weather report always changes to excellent visibility when I´m deep...
Anyway, here is the next part of the attack, and maybe an explanation for why I have been detected when approaching the convoy.

Episode 66
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItY1iP65NDY

Hooston

05-01-24, 04:54 PM

You have to stop making excuses for your useless weapons officer on the TDC. i suggest you reassign him when you get back to port. You might also want to discipline the watch crew for admiring each other through their binoculars instead of looking out for aircraft.

As some have pointed out the oiler you sank first was a new US fleet oiler, seemingly operating under a Royal Navy flag https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cimarron-class_oiler_(1939). So much for US neutrality. History does not remember this ship and the brave men who died on her, or the experimental rotating VHF radar she carried.

The Irish Government allowed RAF aircraft operating from Northern Ireland to overfly their territory using the "Donegal corridor" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donegal_Corridor starting in early 1941. The Germans were not told about this.

Tonci87

05-15-24, 11:21 AM

Episode 67
This is a close one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUl5neeOGmI

Episode 68
We end the patrol, but the way to Lorient is dangerous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjd3sKOrrMw

Tonci87

06-05-24, 11:26 AM

Episode 69
The beginning of a new patrol, and the discovery of a serious issue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoCHbdl4tP4

Hooston

06-05-24, 02:11 PM

Lockheed Hudsons. Very common early war ASW aircraft, easy to confuse with the less capable Avro Anson. I think you knew that :03:

ASV mk2 radar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASV_Mark_II_radar) was operational in large numbers in early 1941. The Bismarck was detected that way in the first Swordfish strike from HMS Victorious. As you say, radar was not likely to be used off Africa at that time, but the game equips all units of a given type the same way at a given date.
The radar was not very good initially and had a high minimum range, so was not very useful at night until the Leigh light was introduced in mid 1942. The initial tactics would be to drop a flare somewhere near the target on the first pass, then try to attack on the second pass using the light from the flare. By accident or design in game aircraft with a high expertise never drop bombs or depth charges on the first pass. So crash dive immediately!
Too frequent air attacks was a problem with the vanilla game, cleared up in GWX. Unfortunately I think OneAlex likes his aeroplanes... As you say it's not so much the frequency of encounters as the near certainty that they will overfly you (and the way they guess your depth). I'm afraid that's not something the modders can tackle.
Don't be tempted to mess with the game config files unless you are really sure you know what you are doing. I tried this in my first career and it ended when I was attacked by 12 Sunderlands at the same time!
The best solution is to surface only during the day and rely on your watch crew to allow you to crash dive. AND DON'T USE TIME COMPRESSION >256! I've found this works every time in all weathers against slower aircraft with big bombs. To be honest when in your patrol grid you can spend most of the time submerged, which is not really historically correct for this time period and location.
The other problem is with radars on warships when the visibility is bad. The warships see you before you see them, which is realistic, but unfortunately when using time compression they can sink you before you can react. So in the radar era stay below the surface as much as possible in zero visibility.

When Metox arrives you will have a brief period of freedom until centimetric radar appears!

Tonci87

06-12-24, 11:36 AM

Episode 70
I am assured that the best pilots of the British empire are stationed in Africa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls7_CQF0SbI

Tonci87

06-19-24, 12:50 PM

Episode 71
Our newly assigned patrol area is as calm as it gets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQgHeFzUbgQ

Tonci87

06-26-24, 11:10 AM

Episode 72
An encounter in the dark turns into an unexpected firefight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAvF0NBrkYA

Hooston

06-26-24, 12:58 PM

I think the kaleun is getting tired and making errors of judgement. The old confidence is draining away. Most of the early war aces met their fate in 1941.

Hard to see anything wrong with the attack, but you did have a fairly large gyro angle when you fired and were asking for quite a lot of turning from the torpedoes at only 600m range. You also did not leave long for the torpedoes to actually leave the tubes before moving to the next target - I'm not sure exactly when the gyros are set in game.

Those midships guns on the large cargo ships have caught me out as well. Of course you had plenty of time to surface, go around and try again with more torpedoes but calm logic does not always prevail when you are frustrated with the damn game.

areo16

06-26-24, 04:54 PM

Just found this. Started episode 1! Looking forward to the journey!

Tonci87

07-03-24, 03:36 PM

Episode 73
For I think the very first time, I saw a ship capsize, just completely roll over, in SH3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ1DM2I5yss

Tonci87

07-10-24, 11:25 AM

Episode 74
We have a very close call, which shows why a periscope check is very important
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qMU1z-Ir8U

Tonci87

07-17-24, 11:14 AM

Episode 75
We are finishing the current patrol in challenging weather conditions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3HrxsmuJds

Oizo

08-05-24, 01:25 PM

Hi Tonci87,
Watching the first of your great videos of this SH3 campaign, I understand you use a mod JFO (Just Follow Orders) that you've adapted to GWX Onealex, but I am unable to find a valid link to download it.
Do you have such link please ?
Thank you

Aktungbby

08-05-24, 03:43 PM

Oizo!:Kaleun_Salute:... back on the surface after an 8-year's silent running!:arrgh!:

Oizo

08-05-24, 03:55 PM

Yes :lol: and you noted also I didn't have lot of nautique miles :k_confused:

Tonci87

08-28-24, 11:08 AM

Episode 76
We go on our first patrol with our new boat, as the war takes a surprising turn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FO6lxT3h08

Cristi_Neagu

09-03-24, 06:57 AM

fitzcarraldo

09-03-24, 07:35 AM

Took a break from this, but now I'm back at it and catching up on the episodes. It's all really good.

As far as I can tell, Tonci is using three extra mods:
1. Just Follow Orders, to make it work with the mod pack
2. A mod adding more ships to the game
3. A mod that dims the rest of the screen when using the periscope, to make it easier to see at night.

Does anyone have any info on the other two mods?

The attack scope view is OneAlex default.
The Just Follow Orders mod and the more merchant ships mod are in the Discord for OneAlex mod.

In the Discord there are another addon mods, compatible with GWX OneAlex.

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo :Kaleun_Salute:

Tonci87

09-18-24, 11:10 AM

Episode 77
U 80 is facing it´s first engagement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjVPcJEwYRE

Tonci87

10-06-24, 04:43 PM

Episode 78
Despite the horrible weather conditions, we attempt to reengage the convoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F37JXAgU4Q

Episode 79
We encounter and engage a small convoy, however the torpedo crew makes too much noise while we approach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnEuRGwkQaY

Tonci87

10-09-24, 11:33 AM

Episode 80
We conduct a little Experiment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sugnejas3fg

Tonci87

10-16-24, 12:02 PM

Episode 81
The game of cat and mouse with the destroyer continues...... until the mouse has had enough of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faAQHUpbSw4

Tonci87

10-23-24, 11:43 AM

Episode 82
We finish taking apart the small convoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0o7MDDE5aA

Tonci87

10-30-24, 01:07 PM

Episode 83
We encounter an enemy convoy, but only have one torpedo left. Will it strike a target, or are we braving the escorts only to miss?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3dR2gvLsrU

Hooston

11-01-24, 07:07 AM

The logic to this is a bit confusing. There seems to be a "lock on" function for the hydrophone, which is also used when pinging for range late war. It starts off tracking the nearest target but this can get overridden by selecting a target on the hydrophone screen. As you can lose this lock through angle, range and depth changes it can get a bit confused. The "report on nearest target" seems to be more reliable.

Congratulations on the latest attack. "Captain Cool" is back. Maybe playing the game at a reasonable hour is an important factor.

Tonci87

11-06-24, 03:54 PM

It certainly is!
It´s not that easy to find time though.

But here is a new Episode, in which I look forward to seeing Brest
Episode 84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urStQ68fEm0

Tonci87

12-28-24, 07:02 PM

Episode 85
Just a few days after leaving Brest we encounter a ship that proves to be very resilient
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnZevoYjcow

Tonci87

01-08-25, 05:45 PM

Episode 86
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX48BV_1jJ0
Diplomacy sometimes has to be considered when deciding on attacking targets

Episode 87
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCf191TYkII
The crew experiences a great range of emotions

Tonci87

01-16-25, 03:16 PM

Episode 88
I find a convoy, but these sailors are very alert and careful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_r8Xdz6szc

Hooston

01-16-25, 04:29 PM

The game's starting to get a bit trickier isn't it. Very good choice in restricting the use of the external views when being hunted.

The CAM Hurricanes were for defence against FW200 Condors, not submarines. The mk1 Hurricanes used did not have suitable armament for use against uboats. There's a good article on wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAM_ship. On some occasions the Hurricane could head for the nearest land base rather than ditch.
In my NYGM campaign the CAM ships have an infinite supply of bomb armed Hurricanes. You never see them launched but they do appear fairly regularly near the convoy. So your caution was actually justified in the game but not in real life! However you really should have chased the convoy rather than disengage, you would have probably been in position at night.

Tonci87

01-22-25, 01:06 PM

Maybe you are right that I should have chased the convoy, but sometimes the decision to disengage leads to another opportunity

Episode 89
Shortly after disengaging from the convoy, we spot smoke on the horizon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zlE-IVzVX0

Tonci87

02-12-25, 12:05 PM

Episode 90
We encounter another convoy. Soon the night is full of flames
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl4gWgOQ_68

Tonci87

02-19-25, 05:10 PM

Episode 91
An unfulfilled opportunity leaves sadness behind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnsst_oaTz0

Tonci87

04-16-25, 03:38 PM

Episode 92
At long last, we depart on another patrol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umpmVxXjTpQ

Hooston

04-17-25, 11:20 AM

I thought you had lost interest just as the game was getting more difficult.
I used to work on jet fighters. Trying to attach instrumentation underneath a running Tornado or Eurofighter makes racing cars seem a bit meh!
No matter how quiet you are the nearest GWX escort tends to head directly for you as soon as the first torpedo explodes. Maybe it's a simple ~2km offset from the impact point? So there's not much point crawling away at 1 knot; you have to be out of ASDIC range by the time they arrive. I usually use ahead one third as a compromise. Once you had been detected on ASDIC your tactics were perfect.
I prefer NYGM as the escort hydrophones seem much less sensitive and they often have no clue where you are, so you can frequently creep away as you tried here.

Tristand

04-18-25, 09:08 PM

I wondered why airplanes didnt always drop their bombs on the first pass. Is that a bug?

Anyway, absolutely love this series, I am now not using the recognition manual and conducting historically accurate methods of determining speeds and directions of travel. Its added a new element to the game thats been missing before. And doing some guesstimating really adds to the realism a uboat commander faced!

Hooston

04-19-25, 06:06 AM

I understand that failing to drop on the first pass is a bug associated with a particular level of aircraft competence.
Of course there are many reasons why it could happen in real life. Before the invention of the Leigh light aircraft night attacks would involve a first pass dropping flares followed by a second attack pass.

propbeanie

04-19-25, 08:42 AM

Tonci87

04-24-25, 06:50 PM

Episode 93
Sometimes you go in blind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQk2e42_A84

Davie Jones

04-25-25, 09:20 AM

The aircraft "AI" is not good. Even when set to Elite, they have issues with recovering from a dive. You get below Veteran, and they'll often crash after a bomb drop. The decision as to whether or not to drop a bomb depends upon the plane's approach angle to the sub's angle, and also whether they "saw" your boat, or if you might have been detected by radar. If detected by radar, but you dive in time, you will often see a single pass without a bomb drop, almost like they dropped a marker in the water (wouldn't that be nice to see??), and then they'll come back for a 2nd pass and drop, usually missing you. If they see your boat, you might get a strafing run first, then a bomb drop. It depends upon how the plane is loaded out, and if they have weapons available...

Now I'm confused. Via the readme in his scripted bombers mod, Stiebler said this about radar.

"Aircraft don t really use radar:
In the course of testing, I found something very interesting. The land-based bombers are fitted with radar from 1943 or earlier, which can be detected by the U-boat s radar receiver. They close very fast to the U-boat in a direct line. The scripted bombers also have the same radar, which can also be detected by the U-boat, but the aircraft fly along their pre-plotted path until they see the U-boat visually - not easy in darkness. I believe that actually no radar-fitted bomber uses its radar to locate the U-boat - the radar serves only to alert the U-boat in SH3. The scripted bomber flies unconcernedly on until it sees the U-boat visually - then it will attack. The land-based bomber however is generated just a short distance away from the U-boat, and is given the correct angle by the code to fly towards the U-boat. Only later does the aircraft see the U-boat lying across its path.
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