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texelbo

09-26-22, 02:30 PM

Hi captains.

May I introduce the result of three-years of my efforts - model of Cunard-Whitestar liner RMS Mauretania.

https://brat01.mybb.rocks/viewtopic.php?id=288&p=3#p98999

Link for downloading: https://www.mediafire.com/file/n88em3925z3rrog/Mauretania.7z/file

HMT Mauretania coming soon, hopefully.
:Kaleun_Salute:

VonDos

09-26-22, 03:17 PM

G011d3nPony

09-26-22, 03:28 PM

As a liner fan myself as well, this is absolutely amazing! :Kaleun_Applaud:

denis_469

09-27-22, 06:52 AM

I don't know if you're interested on create other great ocean liners \ troopers like Aquitania, New Amsterdam, Rex etc, but... keep up the extremely good work!

Best regards,
Vd

Von Dos Hi!

Passenger liner "Rex" was made for SH:
PPR=пассажирский лайнер "Рекс"

Passenger liner "Aquitania" was made for SH:
LUS=лайнер т. "Аквитания"

Passenger liner "New Amsterdam" was not in SH. Why need made ships what was made yet?

I think, that need see what was made and made new ships. What interesting made 2 or 3 times one ship?

List ships was made for SH:
https://sovpl.forum24.ru/?1-7-1664278652158-00000001-000-120-0#110 this and after.

Texelbo - thank for you new ship!

VonDos

09-27-22, 08:48 AM

Von Dos Hi!

Passenger liner "Rex" was made for SH:
PPR=пассажирский лайнер "Рекс"

Passenger liner "Aquitania" was made for SH:
LUS=лайнер т. "Аквитания"

Hi denis_469!
I know those models, because... i'm the author ^_^"
They've been made more than 10 years ago, and if they're "good" at time (my skills were really inferior than now), now they're totally out of date.
For a good comparison, try to put side to side the REX model and latest Queen Mary version, or latest NTUS. There's a lot of difference.
Now compare the latest Queen Mary with this Mauretania II.
Again, that's a different level.
That's why i think a new version of big ocean liners (I said Aquitania, Rex and Niew Amsterdam, but there were a lot of them outside, including the various "Empress of Somewhere" from CP line (i've, again, a really old Empress of Britain in my shipyard)...
That's why updated version of old ship are interesting to me.

Sure, Mr texelbo is free to choose everything he prefere to model, if and when he want to model. My message was just an expression of an hope :D

Best regards,
Vd

ps: sorry for the hijack of the post; we are talking about the Mauretania II released here. A damn good model. Yep.

Aktungbby

09-27-22, 10:07 AM

texelbo!:Kaleun_Salute: after a 6 year 'silent run'!:up:

Mister_M

09-27-22, 10:17 AM

Very nice model. :)
Is there a chance for a grey war skin ?

texelbo

09-27-22, 12:03 PM

Very nice model. :)
Is there a chance for a grey war skin ?
Yes, HMT Mauretania has almost made.
In fact - this liner was made only for one task - meet her in last days of August 1939 and enjoy from elegance this classical british design.

texelbo

09-27-22, 12:27 PM

Hi texelbo!
And thanks!! :salute:

As an ocean liner lover, i must say this model is AMAZING :doh:
I can imagine to walk into promenades inside glass windows.
Details are breathtaking. And FPS are good too!

Damn, sorry for my cheap and badly setted graphic card's effects, but i think your work deserves al least a screenshot!

https://i.ibb.co/p1PJZ4k/SH3-Img-26-9-2022-22-7-52-27.jpg

Respect for your work! :Kaleun_Cheers:

I don't know if you're interested on create other great ocean liners \ troopers like Aquitania, New Amsterdam, Rex etc, but... keep up the extremely good work!

Best regards,
Vd
Hi VonDos.
Thank you for warm words.
About another great liners - those ships are too beautiful ad too complicated - my wishes are limited by lack of enough information and time. Mauretania has consumed almost three years of efforts - a little more than construction of real liner.
I'm in consideration of next big model - could be Pasteur, but I still hasnt found layouts or drawings of her. Will see.

Another issue - from my pont of view all those great liners (20000+ GRT) should be gathered in their own group of UnitType, not as now - in 103. Its quite weird meet Queen Mary in slow random convoy, majestically crawling among small tramps at 8 knots.
At least we have separate unit group 10 only for battlecruisers - for three ships only.

texelbo

09-27-22, 12:30 PM

Von Dos Hi!

Passenger liner "Rex" was made for SH:
PPR=пассажирский лайнер "Рекс"

Passenger liner "Aquitania" was made for SH:
LUS=лайнер т. "Аквитания"

Passenger liner "New Amsterdam" was not in SH. Why need made ships what was made yet?

I think, that need see what was made and made new ships. What interesting made 2 or 3 times one ship?

List ships was made for SH:
https://sovpl.forum24.ru/?1-7-1664278652158-00000001-000-120-0#110 this and after.

Texelbo - thank for you new ship!

:salute:

Anvar1061

09-28-22, 11:55 AM

List ships was made for SH:

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/smilies/Kaleun_Thumbs_Up-1.gif

Kpt. Lehmann

09-28-22, 05:16 PM

Nice work, Texelbo! :up:

VonDos

10-01-22, 06:25 PM

Hi VonDos.
Thank you for warm words.
About another great liners - those ships are too beautiful ad too complicated - my wishes are limited by lack of enough information and time. Mauretania has consumed almost three years of efforts - a little more than construction of real liner.
I'm in consideration of next big model - could be Pasteur, but I still hasnt found layouts or drawings of her. Will see.

Another issue - from my pont of view all those great liners (20000+ GRT) should be gathered in their own group of UnitType, not as now - in 103. Its quite weird meet Queen Mary in slow random convoy, majestically crawling among small tramps at 8 knots.
At least we have separate unit group 10 only for battlecruisers - for three ships only.

You're welcome, and, again, thanks for your dedication in your mods!
I understand, with a similar detail level, there's a huge need of time and blueprints\schemes\photos etc.
As said, you're free to mod everything you want, if you want :salute:
I well remember images of Pasteur. A big liner with a single funnel... but, what a funnel!!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/SS_Pasteur_transporting_troops_and_leaving_port_A1 0612.jpg

About UnitType 103, i agree. If we can have a class for Hood, Repulse and Renown, we should have another, and larger, class for big, high speed, zigzag course, alone or lightly escorted ocean liners! They deserve this :D

Best regards,
Vd

texelbo

10-02-22, 11:40 AM

Very nice model. :)
Is there a chance for a grey war skin ?

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/attachment.php?attachmentid=5452&stc=1&d=1664728784

Mister_M

10-03-22, 09:04 AM

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/attachment.php?attachmentid=5452&stc=1&d=1664728784

Oh yes, this is very nice !!! Two small remarks :

1. Are you sure about the shade of grey ? It seems to me that this grey color is a bit too dark.

http://ssmaritime.com/Mauretania-Wartime-Grey-Sydney.jpg

http://ssmaritime.com/Mauretania-Princes-Landing-Liverpool-Sep-2-46.jpg

2. The underwater part of the hull (painted in red) would have a far better looking if it has a "weathering effect" : I mean not clean but with traces of oxidation (rust). But maybe it's too complicated to do.

JU_88

10-03-22, 09:56 AM

That absolutey deserved a screeen shot (thanks VonDos)
Fanastic work Mr Texelbo, I can see alot of time and love went in to that ship! It is superb sir! :Kaleun_Salute:

texelbo

10-03-22, 11:33 AM

Oh yes, this is very nice !!! Two small remarks :

1. Are you sure about the shade of grey ? It seems to me that this grey color is a bit too dark.

http://ssmaritime.com/Mauretania-Wartime-Grey-Sydney.jpg

http://ssmaritime.com/Mauretania-Princes-Landing-Liverpool-Sep-2-46.jpg

2. The underwater part of the hull (painted in red) would have a far better looking if it has a "weathering effect" : I mean not clean but with traces of oxidation (rust). But maybe it's too complicated to do.

Hello.
I have some photos made in same place at april 1940 - its look even more darker than on model. Seems paint was burn out during five-years sevice of ship.
So we have some sort of compromise on model.
5453

Mister_M

10-03-22, 12:29 PM

Hello.
I have some photos made in same place at april 1940 - its look even more darker than on model. Seems paint was burn out during five-years sevice of ship.
So we have some sort of compromise on model.
5453

On your picture, the light exposition is bad, probably there were some clouds above in the sky. It seems that the ship has not been painted in grey yet, you can still see the difference between the black hull and the white superstructures. In fact, it seems that the superstructures have been painted grey, but not the hull yet... :hmmm:

And there aren't any additional liferafts yet, which means that the ship has not been fitted for war purposes yet (troopship).

By the way, the ship had also some anti-aicraft guns platforms which I didn't see on your ship.

Mister_M

10-03-22, 02:08 PM

https://anticsonline.uk/Product/Image?k=106767900&width=1042&v=jsgCcm9s/9xYMIKL4OVIfvt1uQobKWWfvbj8GSM4CbI=

VonDos

10-03-22, 03:12 PM

If it can help.... from web:

http://www.birtwistlewiki.com.au/images/2/25/RMS_Mauritania.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a5/d6/1f/a5d61f397c748e1fea0412d529b10fad.jpg

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/TA18FC/the-mauretania-as-a-troop-carrier-at-the-pier-in-new-york-after-the-reconstruction-the-mauretania-was-able-to-transport-up-to-2000-soldiers-TA18FC.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/RDhhZ1S/Mauretania-Wartime-Grey-Sydney.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/30Nr2qn/Mauretania-Wartime-in-Convoy.jpg

best regards,
Vd

Mister_M

10-03-22, 03:58 PM

Thank you for additional pics !

In fact, despite of the grey paint, we can still discern a very slight difference of color between hull and superstructures : the hull has a slightly darker grey.

texelbo

10-30-22, 01:45 PM

Hi everyone!

So, here you could find two ships:
1. RMS Mauretania with cured bugs
2. HMT Mauretania.
Link: https://app.mediafire.com/5g88j6l14j5gt
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/attachment.php?attachmentid=5486&stc=1&d=1667155503
:Kaleun_Salute:

kyle9154

10-30-22, 02:02 PM

Mister_M

10-30-22, 02:12 PM

Mediafire link doesn't work, I have a blank page.

texelbo

10-30-22, 02:59 PM

Mediafire link doesn't work, I have a blank page.
Sorry, please try it:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/joe309a8z6xdlvw/2-Mauretania.7z/file

5487

Mister_M

10-30-22, 03:48 PM

Sorry, please try it:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/joe309a8z6xdlvw/2-Mauretania.7z/file

5487

Download was successful. Thank you, I love your work ! :yeah:

Anvar1061

10-31-22, 02:07 PM

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VonDos

11-01-22, 03:59 PM

texelbo

11-03-22, 08:46 AM

Hi texelbo!

Extremely well done, as expected :up:

Just a question, in my installation i've problems with materials assigned to rafts who are added late in the war. Is this a mine ID related problem maybe?

Best regards,
Vd
Hi VonDos.
Honesty speaking it IS last bug of model - I done everything to resolve it but without positive result. Here were two materials on node: one for raft and another for support frame. It should have worked, but it didn't.

VonDos

11-03-22, 10:00 AM

Hi VonDos.
Honesty speaking it IS last bug of model - I done everything to resolve it but without positive result. Here were two materials on node: one for raft and another for support frame. It should have worked, but it didn't.

Hi texelbo!
I see, i've tested some "fast" solutions, but nothing seems to work. "Steel" texture still assigned to rafts' nodes, without assigned material OR with different assigned material. Really strange.
Could this be related with the use of 2 different materials, maybe?
In that case, raft and support frame's models could be separated into library's dat, with the boring need to use 2 nodes with a single material for every original raft into ship's dat.
Well, maybe you tested this months before my idea :D sorry in that case.
Just trying to figure an interesting puzzle :03:

Best regards,
Vd

Mad Mardigan

11-03-22, 11:38 AM

Thank you for additional pics !

In fact, despite of the grey paint, we can still discern a very slight difference of color between hull and superstructures : the hull has a slightly darker grey.

With discernment of the hull looking darker than the superstructures gray, is owing to the fact that the hull was black (which on reflection, is as dark as 1 can go on the color spectrum.. :hmmm:) which, attributes to the eyes discerning it to be darker.

That's simple artists knowledge.

Hope that helps.. :yep: as always.. :shucks:

:Kaleun_Salute:

M. M.

Mister_M

11-03-22, 01:17 PM

raft and support frame's models could be separated into library's dat, with the boring need to use 2 nodes with a single material for every original raft into ship's dat.

You could add the raft as a child node of the support, and place them in a Library_file.dat. Then, you only have to add placement nodes or #cfg nodes (with a reference to these nodes in ship.eqp) for each pair {support + raft} in the ship.dat.

VonDos

11-03-22, 05:16 PM

You could add the raft as a child node of the support in Library.dat. Then, you only have to add placement nodes or #cfg nodes (with a reference to these nodes in ship.eqp) for each support in the ship.dat.

Yep, but can you do this without import material and child model's tga texture into library file? :hmmm:

I never see a placement with an external texture. But "i never see" isn't equal to "it's impossible"... :salute:

Best regards,
Vd

Mister_M

11-03-22, 05:50 PM

Yep, but can you do this without import material and child model's tga texture into library file? :hmmm:

You can place the ship's textures in the data/Textures/TNormal/tex folder, and then use them from both the ship.dat and the Library_file.dat

Alex.B

11-03-22, 06:38 PM

...Here were two materials on node: one for raft and another for support frame. It should have worked, but it didn't.

А разве это должно было сработать? По мне, так и не должно было с двумя-то материалами. Как моделька поймёт, что надо использовать две шкурки, без явного указания? Помоему никак. Почему бы не использовать папку tex? Простое и логичное решение.