Deck gun removal

[John Pancoast]

If anyone wants to have the deck gun removed from their boat from 1943 on as was the historical case, simply remove the node labeled "cfg#M01_NSS_<u-boat model_>High" in the relevant sub's .dat file.

I.e, to remove it from a Type VIIc, look for node cfg#M01_NSS_Uboat7c_High.

[FUBAR295]

John,

Thanks. Nice tip. Added to my bag of tricks.:yeah:

Good hunting,
FUBAR295

[rudewarrior]

Alternatively, in your basic.cfg file, go to each of your u-boats and conning tower options that are available from 1943 onward to -1. To use JP's example above, here are my entries for the VIIc for all years of service:

[SUBMARINE_AMMO3]; VIIC
Type=1
Version=1
ForeTubes=4
AftTubes=1
ForeResIntern=4
ForeResExtern=1
ForeResExtra=2
AftResIntern=1
AftResExtern=1
ShellSlots=12
NbYears=7
Renown=4
SNK_MASK=NSS_Uboattype7_SNK_mask

Year0=1939
ForeTube00=0 ;T1
ForeTube01=0
ForeTube02=0
ForeTube03=0
ForeResIntern00=0
ForeResIntern01=0
ForeResIntern02=0
ForeResIntern03=0
ForeResExtern00=0
ForeResExtra00=0
ForeResExtra01=0
AftTubes00=0
AftResIntern00=0
AftResExtern00=0
Z01_00=5 ; VIIC/1
M01_00=1
A01_00=8
SuperCharger_00=1260; GWX V2.1: was -1, so this boat now has GW turbos by default
Snorkel_00=-1
Batteries_00=1265
AftBatteries_00=1265
Hydrophone_00=1270
Sonar_00=-1
Radar_00=-1
RadarWarningReceiver_00=-1
Decoy_Launcher_00=-1
SonarCoatings_00=-1
RadarCoatings_00=-1
Renown0=0


Year1=1940
ForeTube10=2 ;T1
ForeTube11=0
ForeTube12=0
ForeTube13=2
ForeResIntern10=0
ForeResIntern11=0
ForeResIntern12=0
ForeResIntern13=0
ForeResExtern10=0
ForeResExtra10=0
ForeResExtra11=0
AftTubes10=0
AftResIntern10=0
AftResExtern10=0
Z01_10=5 ; VIIC/1
M01_10=1
A01_10=8
SuperCharger_10=1260; GWX V2.1: was -1, so this boat now has GW turbos by default
Snorkel_10=-1
Batteries_10=1265
AftBatteries_10=1265
Hydrophone_10=1271
Sonar_10=-1
Radar_10=-1
RadarWarningReceiver_10=-1
Decoy_Launcher_10=-1
SonarCoatings_10=-1
RadarCoatings_10=-1
Renown1=0


Year2=1941
ForeTube20=2 ;T1
ForeTube21=0
ForeTube22=0
ForeTube23=2
ForeResIntern20=2
ForeResIntern21=2
ForeResIntern22=0
ForeResIntern23=0
ForeResExtern20=0
ForeResExtra20=0
ForeResExtra21=0
AftTubes20=0
AftResIntern20=2
AftResExtern20=0
Z01_20=5 ; VIIC/1
M01_20=1
A01_20=6
SuperCharger_20=1260; GWX V2.1: was -1, so this boat now has GW turbos by default
Snorkel_20=-1
Batteries_20=1266
AftBatteries_20=1266
Hydrophone_20=1271
Sonar_20=-1
Radar_20=-1
RadarWarningReceiver_20=-1
Decoy_Launcher_20=-1
SonarCoatings_20=-1
RadarCoatings_20=-1
Renown2=0


Year3=1942
ForeTube30=2; 3
ForeTube31=0
ForeTube32=0
ForeTube33=2; 3
ForeResIntern30=2
ForeResIntern31=2
ForeResIntern32=2
ForeResIntern33=2
ForeResExtern30=0
ForeResExtra30=2
ForeResExtra31=2
AftTubes30=2; 3
AftResIntern30=2; 3
AftResExtern30=0
Z01_30=6; VIIC/2
M01_30=1
A01_30=6
A02_30=6
SuperCharger_30=1260; GWX V2.1: was -1, so this boat now has GW turbos by default
Snorkel_30=-1
Batteries_30=1267
AftBatteries_30=1267
Hydrophone_30=1271
Sonar_30=-1
Radar_30=-1
RadarWarningReceiver_30=-1
Decoy_Launcher_30=-1
SonarCoatings_30=1303
RadarCoatings_30=-1
Renown3=0


Year4=1943
ForeTube40=3 ;T3
ForeTube41=3
ForeTube42=1
ForeTube43=3
ForeResIntern40=3
ForeResIntern41=3
ForeResIntern42=0
ForeResIntern43=1; 4
ForeResExtern40=-1
ForeResExtra40=0
ForeResExtra41=0
AftTubes40=3
AftResIntern40=3
AftResExtern40=-1
Z01_40=6 ; VIIC/2
M01_40=-1
A01_40=7
A02_40=7
;Z01_40=8; VIIC/4
;S01_40=4
;S02_40=5
;S03_40=5
SuperCharger_40=1260; GWX V2.1: was -1, so this boat now has GW turbos by default
Snorkel_40=-1
Batteries_40=1267
AftBatteries_40=1267
Hydrophone_40=1271
Sonar_40=1273
Radar_40=1275
RadarWarningReceiver_40=1280
Decoy_Launcher_40=1284
SonarCoatings_40=1303
RadarCoatings_40=-1
Renown4=0


Year5=1944
ForeTube50=3 ;T3
ForeTube51=3
ForeTube52=4
ForeTube53=3
ForeResIntern50=3
ForeResIntern51=3
ForeResIntern52=4
ForeResIntern53=4
ForeResExtern50=-1
ForeResExtra50=3
ForeResExtra51=3
AftTubes50=5
AftResIntern50=3
AftResExtern50=-1
Z01_50=7 ; VIIC/3
M01_50=-1
A01_50=10
A02_50=10
S01_50=3
SuperCharger_50=1260; GWX V2.1: was -1, so this boat now has GW turbos by default
Snorkel_50=1262
Batteries_50=1267
AftBatteries_50=1267
Hydrophone_50=1272
Sonar_50=1273
Radar_50=1276
RadarWarningReceiver_50=1282
Decoy_Launcher_50=1286
SonarCoatings_50=1303
RadarCoatings_50=1305
Renown5=0


Year6=1945
ForeTube60=4 ;T3
ForeTube61=3
ForeTube62=3
ForeTube63=4
ForeResIntern60=3
ForeResIntern61=3
ForeResIntern62=4
ForeResIntern63=4
ForeResExtern60=-1
ForeResExtra60=3
ForeResExtra61=3
AftTubes60=6
AftResIntern60=3
AftResExtern60=-1
Z01_60=7 ; VIIC/3
M01_60=-1
A01_60=10
A02_60=10
S01_60=5
SuperCharger_60=1260; GWX V2.1: was -1, so this boat now has GW turbos by default
Snorkel_60=1262
Batteries_60=1267
AftBatteries_60=1267
Hydrophone_60=1272
Sonar_60=-1
Radar_60=1277
RadarWarningReceiver_60=1234
Decoy_Launcher_60=1288
SonarCoatings_60=1304
RadarCoatings_60=1305
Renown6=0

And the available conning towers:

[CONING_TYPE5] ;VIIC/1
Idx=5
Year=1940
Month=4
SubNb=3
SubType0=1
SubVersion0=1
SubType1=1
SubVersion1=2
SubType2=1
SubVersion2=3
M01=1
A01=8
Renown=0

[CONING_TYPE6] ;VIIC/2
Idx=6
Year=1942
Month=1
SubNb=3
SubType0=1
SubVersion0=1
SubType1=1
SubVersion1=2
SubType2=1
SubVersion2=3
M01=1
A01=7
A02=7
Renown=0

[CONING_TYPE7] ;VIIC/3
Idx=7
Year=1943
Month=1
SubNb=3
SubType0=1
SubVersion0=1
SubType1=1
SubVersion1=2
SubType2=1
SubVersion2=3
M01=-1
A01=7
A02=7
S01=4
Renown=0

[CONING_TYPE8] ;VIIC/4
Idx=8
Year=1943
Month=6
SubNb=3
SubType0=1
SubVersion0=1
SubType1=1
SubVersion1=2
SubType2=1
SubVersion2=3
S01=4
S02=5
S03=5
Renown=0

[Jeff-Groves]

Wouldn't it be easier to Edit Basic.cfg?
M01=-1 for a given year?

Ahh! Someone else saw this!
Good spotting Mate!
:salute:

[Anvar1061]

This is done via a file .eqp U-boat, where you specify NULL in NodeName=M01 since the second half of 1943

[Jeff-Groves]

Yep!

[Equipment 5]
NodeName=M01
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19430101
EndDate=19451231

[Anvar1061]

Yep!

[Equipment 5]
NodeName=M01
LinkName=NULL
StartDate=19430101
EndDate=19451231

https://icdn.lenta.ru/images/2021/08/27/12/20210827122227084/pic_ccca80c2bff2b16d37486c172a022f00.jpg

[John Pancoast]

Thanks, even better ! :up:

[Mister_M]

This is done via a file .eqp U-boat, where you specify NULL in NodeName=M01 since the second half of 1943

Probably doesn't work, basic.cfg having priority, but I could be wrong...

[Niume]

SH 3 Commander has this feature implemented.

[John Pancoast]

SH 3 Commander has this feature implemented.


:hmmm: I've never seen Commander do such and don't see anything in the date folders.
Where is it at ?

[Niume]

https://www.part.lt/img/9c23fcb34a0a75d02d27c8d0a76a4abe178.jpg (https://www.part.lt/perziura/9c23fcb34a0a75d02d27c8d0a76a4abe178.jpg)

[Anvar1061]

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/images/smilies/Kaleun_Thumbs_Up-1.gif

[John Pancoast]

Nothing like that in my 3.2 version. :hmmm:

[rudewarrior]

Nothing like that in my 3.2 version. :hmmm:

You may not be finding it because the SH3 Commander solution doesn't actually solve the same issue. This is why I didn't post it here in particular.

The issue with using Commander is, when you go with stock settings, you will always have to conduct your first mission with a deck gun. The deck gun removal option is not actually available until after your first mission is complete. So if you start a new career after 1942, you will have to run a mission. Only after you return to base can you remove the deck gun.

So using SH3 Commander is not an equivalent solution to any of the others posted in this thread.

[John Pancoast]

You may not be finding it because the SH3 Commander solution doesn't actually solve the same issue. This is why I didn't post it here in particular.

The issue with using Commander is, when you go with stock settings, you will always have to conduct your first mission with a deck gun. The deck gun removal option is not actually available until after your first mission is complete. So if you start a new career after 1942, you will have to run a mission. Only after you return to base can you remove the deck gun.

So using SH3 Commander is not an equivalent solution to any of the others posted in this thread.


Thanks ! I wonder what other hidden features Commander has that I don't know about....

[Doolar]

I'm with you John. I didn't know that either. Of course I just found out about the "R" button for randomizing patrol grids, about a week ago. Been play'n many years and still learning some basic stuff. :Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

[John Pancoast]

I'm with you John. I didn't know that either. Of course I just found out about the "R" button for randomizing patrol grids, about a week ago. Been play'n many years and still learning some basic stuff. :Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:
Part of what makes it fun. :up:

[Anvart]

This is done via a file .eqp U-boat, where you specify NULL in NodeName=M01 since the second half of 1943
Yes. :yeah: IIRC, it's the standard solution.