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Bubblehead1980
11-24-21, 03:08 PM
Not sure if anyone has done this already, but nothing has showed up in my search. Need hull numbers for pre war boats for my pre war mod (see sink below for example) the hull numbers of course were painted over once at war but would like skis for Tambor, Gar, Porpoise, Salmon/Sargo if possible, not sure if S class had numbers painted in same manner or not. So any of our artists out there, if you are willing, would appreciate it. Needs to be compatible with TMO Update BH . (see downloads)

https://pigboats.com/subs/198.html
KaleunMarco
11-24-21, 03:24 PM
Not sure if anyone has done this already, but nothing has showed up in my search. Need hull numbers for pre war boats for my pre war mod (see sink below for example) the hull numbers of course were painted over once at war but would like skis for Tambor, Gar, Porpoise, Salmon/Sargo if possible, not sure if S class had numbers painted in same manner or not. So any of our artists out there, if you are willing, would appreciate it. Needs to be compatible with TMO Update BH . (see downloads)

https://pigboats.com/subs/198.html

Are you asking for information or the DDS-file artwork?

https://i.ibb.co/nrSdDJy/Picture0090.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/BfXpV4Y/Picture0091.jpg
Bubblehead1980
11-24-21, 06:12 PM
Are you asking for information or the DDS-file artwork?

https://i.ibb.co/nrSdDJy/Picture0090.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/BfXpV4Y/Picture0091.jpg



Artwork.
KaleunMarco
11-24-21, 07:08 PM
Artwork.

i've updated DDS but never created one.
All of the Uboat Hull Art in Dark Waters were edited my me to make them presentable, as well as a couple of flags.
i could do what you want but i need a starting point...something already created that i can use as a basis.
Mad Mardigan
11-24-21, 07:25 PM
i've updated DDS but never created one.
All of the Uboat Hull Art in Dark Waters were edited my me to make them presentable, as well as a couple of flags.
i could do what you want but i need a starting point...something already created that i can use as a basis.

How about...

"Hull Classification Symbols and Numbers Mod" by LukeFF...

that is, if you can find a copy of it to lay hands on... I checked s7rikeback's mod repository for SH4 "small mods" bank.. & no joy there... doesn't mean that he doesn't have a copy gathering dust or... in this case... barnacle & moss growth... :D

Wouldn't hurt to ring s7rikeback's bell & ask 'im... :hmmm:

Hope this info helps... :shucks: :up:

:Kaleun_Salute:

M. M.
Mad Mardigan
11-24-21, 07:27 PM
How about...

"Hull Classification Symbols and Numbers Mod" by LukeFF...

that is, if you can find a copy of it to lay hands on... I checked s7rikeback's mod repository for SH4 "small mods" bank.. & no joy there... doesn't mean that he doesn't have a copy gathering dust or... in this case... barnacle & moss growth... :D

Wouldn't hurt to ring s7rikeback's bell & ask 'im... :hmmm:

Hope this info helps... :shucks: :up:

:Kaleun_Salute:

M. M.

Just thought of this... :hmmm: that is supposed to be in or is... included in TMO v1.4... so that'd be another place to dig through, as well... :yep:

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1101

:Kaleun_Salute:

M. M.
KaleunMarco
11-24-21, 07:55 PM
How about...

"Hull Classification Symbols and Numbers Mod" by LukeFF...

that is, if you can find a copy of it to lay hands on... I checked s7rikeback's mod repository for SH4 "small mods" bank.. & no joy there... doesn't mean that he doesn't have a copy gathering dust or... in this case... barnacle & moss growth... :D

Wouldn't hurt to ring s7rikeback's bell & ask 'im... :hmmm:

Hope this info helps... :shucks: :up:

:Kaleun_Salute:

M. M.

what sound does a British Bell make? :har:
Mad Mardigan
11-24-21, 08:19 PM
what sound does a British Bell make? :har:

Same as any bell from any country would, I'd reckon... that is, after taking into account...

What metal it's made from, & what size it is... :O:

:Kaleun_Cheers:

:Kaleun_Salute:

M. M.
KaleunMarco
11-24-21, 09:24 PM
Same as any bell from any country would, I'd reckon... that is, after taking into account...

What metal it's made from, & what size it is... :O:

:Kaleun_Cheers:

:Kaleun_Salute:

M. M.

missed it.

i was thinking of something of a totally differently ilk.

you know what an ilk is, don't you?
Mad Mardigan
11-24-21, 10:18 PM
missed it.

i was thinking of something of a totally differently ilk.

you know what an ilk is, don't you?

Yeah... & on looking back at what you said... of course, My mind was thinking literally... & not in the figurative sense... :D :haha:

On that score... hmm... Not sure that I'd want to know... :o lol

:Kaleun_Cheers:

:Kaleun_Salute:

M. M.
propbeanie
11-24-21, 10:40 PM
Ding-a-ling-a-ling... "Helloow?"...

The name is much simpler MM, as "Submarine Hull Numbers"
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1072
KaleunMarco
11-24-21, 10:41 PM
Ding-a-ling-a-ling... "Helloow?"...

The name is much simpler MM, as "Submarine Hull Numbers"
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1072

thanks, PB, i'll take a look at it.

Happy Thanksgiving to all my American Friends, here at Subsim!
Mad Mardigan
11-24-21, 10:47 PM
Ding-a-ling-a-ling... "Helloow?"...

The name is much simpler MM, as "Submarine Hull Numbers"
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1072

When I did a... google search, for that... it came up & pointed to TMO v1.4, propbeanie.

I did attempt... a look search for LukeFF subsim search through google.. but did not come up with any huntin' dawgs, pointing to that or to LukeFF, either... :roll:

Go figure... :hmmm:

:Kaleun_Salute:

M. M.
KaleunMarco
11-24-21, 10:47 PM
Ding-a-ling-a-ling... "Helloow?"...

The name is much simpler MM, as "Submarine Hull Numbers"
https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=1072

uh, this is a folder of Submarine.CFG files which include the HULL NUMBERS....in text.
We were looking for the DDS files that show the hull numbers as graphics.
you're such a kidder, PB.
propbeanie
11-24-21, 10:48 PM
Turkey, mashed potatoes, green beans, corn, yams, cranberries, pumpkin pie, and BACON!!!

HAPPY THANKSGIVING to all us US peoples, and those that like FOOD!!! especially BACON!!!

Edit: Oh ratz... I knew that was too easy to find!!! lol - I didn't even bother to look at it. But it is old... lol Hang on, let me dig on my hard drive. I do know I have it, and I got it from cdrsubron7 many many moons ago. He probably got it from aanker or Hitman....
Mad Mardigan
11-24-21, 10:50 PM
Happy bird day... :Kaleun_Cheers:

:Kaleun_Salute:

M. M.
propbeanie
11-24-21, 10:51 PM
Was it on the KillFlags site maybe? nutz, I can't find it on the wayback machine anymore... I'll have to fire up the old computer in the corner tomorrow and look over there.
KaleunMarco
11-24-21, 11:28 PM
Was it on the KillFlags site maybe? nutz, I can't find it on the wayback machine anymore... I'll have to fire up the old computer in the corner tomorrow and look over there.

don't hurt yourself, now. :03:
Bubblehead1980
11-25-21, 09:45 AM
Was it on the KillFlags site maybe? nutz, I can't find it on the wayback machine anymore... I'll have to fire up the old computer in the corner tomorrow and look over there.

Ah yes I should have been a bit more clear lol. I know the hull numbers, but am
looking for the artwork, for paint scheme (as pictured at the link below) with the hull numbers painted in white on the conning tower and bow etc of pre war Tambor, Gar Sargo, Salmon, and S boats if applicable. Need them for 1941 as my pre war campaign start begins in June 1941 and planned new construction career in Tambor-Gar class will start in late 1940 early 1941. Of course, will transition to the normal paint scheme, showing the numbers painted over after Pearl Harbor or just before, still trying to ascertain when the numbers were painted over, prior to or just before as writing was on the wall for the opening of hostilities.


Hope you can find it, will be great if some already exist that work with TMO, otherwise hoping some of our talented artists here at subsim will jump into action lol.
Mad Mardigan
11-25-21, 11:54 AM
Ah yes I should have been a bit more clear lol. I know the hull numbers, but am
looking for the artwork, for paint scheme (as pictured at the link below) with the hull numbers painted in white on the conning tower and bow etc of pre war Tambor, Gar Sargo, Salmon, and S boats if applicable. Need them for 1941 as my pre war campaign start begins in June 1941 and planned new construction career in Tambor-Gar class will start in late 1940 early 1941. Of course, will transition to the normal paint scheme, showing the numbers painted over after Pearl Harbor or just before, still trying to ascertain when the numbers were painted over, prior to or just before as writing was on the wall for the opening of hostilities.


Hope you can find it, will be great if some already exist that work with TMO, otherwise hoping some of our talented artists here at subsim will jump into action lol.

Know that, some of the warships sport their #'s on the bow of them... as I recall. Can't tell you what mod or mod set did that... as there has been so many, starting off with the earlier SH4 version's on up... mhmm.. think v1.4 was the last version, as I don't recall seeing any mention of mods for v1.5 of SH4. (Not going to swear to that, 100% :hmmm:)

If those could be located... could possibly use them as a basis for that... would need some editing of the #'s, as well as size of them, then reconfigure their placement parameters to work on their placement on the subs from there... then is just a matter of figuring out when they got removed & having that occur in sim/game at the right time (or as is close to right, as it allows... :doh: knowing that it's not 100% spot on... as is well known, with some of the other issues of occurrences, such as not having access to upgrades rightly, base reassignments going awry... things of that nature...)

Hope this bit of info helps... :shucks: :yep:

:Kaleun_Salute:

M. M.
propbeanie
11-25-21, 03:43 PM
Look at my signature, of the FotRSU splash screen shot, which is from cdrsubron7. There is the number "400" on the jull, for the Balao Class Sea Devil boat. I asked him years ago - prior to my 'propbeanie' name (long-lost original name forever gone into the depths of grey matter), and probably his being over at the Ubisoft forums where he was a mod at the time - how he had numbers on the hull, and he pointed me to the mod, probably the one your are referring to MM. From what I remember, it was like the Kill Flags roll-your-own kit in that the user input his own number, which was then loaded as a mini-mod through JSGME - possibly... :roll:

The computer in the corner KM, is thus far not divulging any "secrets"... but it seems to me that there was a node on either side of the boat, and the ambient occlusion was used for the number - but don't take my word for that... I mean, after all, I did point you all to a "numbers" mod... just not anywhere near the correct one... :har:
Nisgeis
11-26-21, 12:19 PM
The ambient occlusion layer can be used to add shadows, so you can put a number on in black only. The texture map for the sub is used on both sides, so any numbers will be OK on one side and reversed on the other side.

You could do this by having a flat rectangle 3d model and position it on the sub and have that rectangle have a unique texture with transparency on the alpha. You could even have this as a piece of equipment with available from and to dates. Then you could make it disappear after a certain date. Does equipment on your sub stay on the sub if you are on patrol and the end date arrives? Is it removed automatically?

I did read that the numbers were cut from steel and welded to the sides on the earlier pre-war launched boats, not just painted on.
propbeanie
11-26-21, 07:31 PM
My gosh, now you know definitely why I am not any good at 3D or skins... I can't even get the terminology straight, much less deal with it in any editor of any kind... :har:
The ambient occlusion layer can be used to add shadows, so you can put a number on in black only ... have a unique texture with transparency on the alpha. You could even have this as a piece of equipment with available from and to dates...
Exactly... lol - s7rikeback and others have to come behind me and clean up the messes I make... Jeff-Groves helped us the last time with this, and now I can't find my Mickey Mouse DD anymore... Jeff built us a DD with that technique, and Mickey Mouse on the side for illustrative purposes. If I only had a brain...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG3mJcUzwaI