EURO 2021

[Moonlight]

I noticed we don't have a thread for the upcoming football matches so I've fixed that. :haha:

Italy vs Turkey

Me thinks Italy will see off the upstarts from Turkey and give them a sound thrashing, it's time they emerged from the shadows of past legends and this tournament could be the start of new ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uu8LioxsX5g

[mapuc]

I've placed my bet on Italy as prime winner and draw as support.

Opening matches use to be 0-0 or 1-1.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

As far as I'm aware Italy are unbeaten for almost three years so if that is correct it makes them firm favourites for tonight.

Match has just started...bye.

[Moonlight]

Well that prediction came good in the end, why teams play so defensively I will never understand, a poor coach and a dismal Turkey performance will not give their fans the slightest hope of winning the Euros. :doh:

3 games tomorrow, the important one is at 8.00 pm UK time.

Belgium vs Russia

I've got Belgium down as a major contender for the semi finals of the Euros, I expect them to beat Russia if their best team performs as well as I expect them to, tomorrow we shall see which team has the most desire to win.

[mapuc]

Belgium has a great team. They are favorite to win against Russia.

Denmark is up against Finland-Denmark is favorite in this game.

First match though is Switzerland vs Wales. According to Danish betting Switzerland is in favorite to win that game.

Markus

[Skybird]

May the team that takes more Vitamine D win:O:!

[Jimbuna]

Italy v Turkey was the equivalent of men v boys.

[mapuc]

A terrible incident seems to have happened on the Danish Football team.

Christian Eriksen, fell suddenly. The other players called for help and a few minutes later, you could see Christian get CPR.

So now the game is suspended until further notice.

Edit.
What I understand from what I've heard
He suffered acute cardiac arrest. They manage to get his heart back in action.
End edit

Markus

[Skybird]

I hope you must not feel personally too effected, mapuc, due to him being from your country. Not knowing you I dont know what your stand is on such national identity things.

Game is said to be continued soon, while the man is awake and stable in hospital.

I dont feel comfortable with the decision to continue.

They said in the analysis on tV that in recent years screening programs in clubs have been boosted and perfected - but only because more such incident have happened worldwide over the same period of time. Which says something, and what it says is not positive.

Isn't sport said to be a benefit for your health...?


It was the first thing I noticed fromthis tournament, and then this. I am simply not itnerested in it all. I do not even know about the German team, when it plays, and against whom. Not interested.

[Jimbuna]

Game has restarted which shows me where the organisers priorities lie.

Early signs are he is awake and not in imminent danger which is where my priority would lie.

[Moonlight]

It's the knee benders turn tomorrow (England) I won't watch those woke pillocks so I'll select the night match again.

Netherlands vs Ukraine

I expect the Netherlands to keep my 100% record intact and to add some flair to the proceedings which has been lacking so far.

Belgium has a great team. They are favorite to win against Russia.

Denmark is up against Finland-Denmark is favorite in this game.

First match though is Switzerland vs Wales. According to Danish betting Switzerland is in favorite to win that game.

Markus

Ooooh you're not much good at this prediction thingie Markus, stick to one game per day in the group stages old boy as it's much easier. :haha:

[mapuc]

It's the knee benders turn tomorrow (England) I won't watch those woke pillocks so I'll select the night match again.

Netherlands vs Ukraine

I expect the Netherlands to keep my 100% record intact and to add some flair to the proceedings which has been lacking so far.



Ooooh you're not much good at this prediction thingie Markus, stick to one game per day in the group stages old boy as it's much easier. :haha:

Being a favorite isn't the same as they will win..
I had Denmark as winner-well you lose most of them and win very few of them.

I played something called Bet13. You have to predict the outcome of 13 Euro matches-From Turkey-Italy to Finland-Russia. Home win = 1, Draw = X away team win = 2.

Markus

[Moonlight]

Don't try and squirm your way out of it Markus as it's very unbecoming of you, you didn't go against those favourites you mentioned so they are yours to own up to. :O:

[mapuc]

Don't try and squirm your way out of it Markus as it's very unbecoming of you, you didn't go against those favourites you mentioned so they are yours to own up to. :O:

I know and I seem to have lost a few bucks on this.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

There was an extremely important pair of winners yesterday....Christian Eriksen and Simon Kjaer.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/57457388

[MGR1]

It's the knee benders turn tomorrow (England) I won't watch those woke pillocks so I'll select the night match again.

I believe the Scotland team are taking the pragmatic approach and only kneeling if the other team does it.

Not a footie person, but it's been amusing seeing the fans up here getting their hopes up, aided and abetted by the press, particularly BBC Scotland.

We'll see how far they go before they get knocked out.:salute:

Mike.

[Moonlight]

We should start a competition on which home nation gets booted out first, my bet would be Scotland, Wales and then England, one thing I do know is none of them will be in the final. That statement might just come back at me and bite me in the butt. :O:

[Jimbuna]

Great start to the competition beating Croatia by the only goal in the game and the first time in the last ten competitions England have won their first game.

Was surprised Southgate started the match with Stirling, especially after the stinker he had in the Champions League final but hey, what do I know?

[Moonlight]

3 wins out of 3, I think I might be Nostradamus reborn, that tippy tappy football by the Netherlands is going to be the undoing of them, I was not impressed with it at all.

Spain vs Sweden

Spain should win this if they get stuck in and don't prat around like the Netherlands did, I don't think their strikers are much cop either, this match could be the end of my winning streak. :o

[mapuc]

Have only one fail/wrong/mishap on my Bet13 coupon. Denmark Finland. Here I thought Denmark would win.

The others I had made backups like X2 or 1X2.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Holland made hard work of beating a lacklustre Ukraine.

Off now to watch the comedy....Scotland

[Moonlight]

Oooooh, you'll go through some pain watching the soggy sporrans in action, make sure you're stocked up on painkillers. :haha:

The soggy sporrans got thumped 2-0 by the Czech's, that's made my bleeding day. :har:

I've got to post this.
https://i.ibb.co/9snfJzD/e02a9030-901e-4545-a5a9-6328541eb541.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

[MGR1]

Not very surprising, pity I'm off sick otherwise I'd be ribbing my co-workers who were convinced something good was going to happen.:D

My nation has been out of international football for too long to cut it these days.:hmmm:

We should stick to Rugby, we're generally better at that than football.:yeah:

Mike.

[Jimbuna]

Not very surprising, pity I'm off sick otherwise I'd be ribbing my co-workers who were convinced something good was going to happen.:D

My nation has been out of international football for too long to cut it these days.:hmmm:

We should stick to Rugby, we're generally better at that than football.:yeah:

Mike.

Then what a sublime drop kick that second goal was :haha:

:03:

[MGR1]

Pfft!:O: As I wrote I'm not a football fan so I declined to watch the match. In fact I don't watch any sport these days.

Mike.

[Jimbuna]

Pfft!:O: As I wrote I'm not a football fan so I declined to watch the match. In fact I don't watch any sport these days.

Mike.

You should be grateful your not a TOON fan then :)

[Moonlight]

Spain 0-0 Sweden
I predicted this result so I'm claiming this as another prediction right for me. :oops:
If Morata is all Spain has up front then they are in deep trouble, that tippy tappy football they play is not suited to a team that can't score, Morata needs to take another sport up, anything will do as long as it doesn't involve a net.

There's some big guns playing tomorrow so it's time to do a double prediction.

Hungary vs Portugal and France vs Germany.

Portugal have the best player in the world on display tomorrow and I'm sure he'll pull something out of the hat for Portugal.
The next game is a tricky one so I'm going for a draw, Germany have been playing like plonkers recently but they will be well up for this and will not want to lose against the old enemy France, I expect some fireworks to happen here and there but it will still finish a draw.

[mapuc]

Since I couldn't predict the outcome of Spain Vs Sweden I backed it up Betting 1X2. On the other hand I lost on the game between Poland and Slovakia I had Poland as winner. Scotland Vs the Czech I had 1X so even this match went out in the blue. Wonder if I will win something on my Bet13 coupon.

Predicting football result isn't really my game. In other words Luck seems very far away.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Dubravka played well in goal for Slovakia and Krafth was a late substitute so had very little if any influence on the game.

Looking forward to the two 'EU' giants blooding each other tonight but strangely enough, I don't see the French surrendering.

[mapuc]

The 3-0 goal made by Ronaldo was not only beautiful, but showed a perfect combination play between two to three players.

Another thing and here you may correct me.

Have there ever been a football tournament where we have been witness to THREE own goals after 14½ matches. I can't recall any.

Markus

[Catfish]

Well France won against Germany 1:0, and the one was an own goal.

But i am glad it was not 3:0, after the chances that France had.. at least we did not drown completely against the world champion :yep:

[Moonlight]

That was the worst German side I've ever seen, no motivation from the coach and the players looked as though they didn't want to be there, Joachim Löw has lost the dressing room. :doh:
What the hell has happened to the modern game, walking pace football, hardly any attempts to get past the opponent, players can't cross a ball and the skill level of these modern players is bang average. This tournament will be the last time I watch international football.

On the bright side, twinkle toes scored twice for Portugal. :haha:

Tomorrows games.

Turkey vs Wales
Italy vs Switzerland
Finland vs Russia

I have to pick one so I'm going for Italy, not because they're any good but they'll at least try to bleeding win.

[mapuc]

I think it was this own goal that made them "depressed" None of the team had this We-will-win-this-tournament-attitude.

Markus

[Skybird]

I only saw the own goal in the news, and do not blame Hummels, brown stuff happens, it was not his individual fault. These crazy things just can happen. No words needed, flip the next page, carry on.

I had not watched the match, the team bores me, Löw bores me, the whole show bores me, the system DFB, UEFA, FIFA bores me. One could say they lost me. From what I have red, I seem to have missed nothing, but the French seem to have not even shown all they are capable of, so they say.

So they also have to play Portugal, I read. It would not be surprising if the team once again goes home after the first round. Will I watch the match, or any other? No. My money is on France and Portugal in this group.

[Moonlight]

I can't take much more of this rubbish that's been on display, the legends of the past must be squirming in their wheelchairs.
I haven't seen a team that stands out yet who look as though they're going to win this tourney, is it me or is this the worst set of players to ever grace the international stage, the football skill of these muppets is practically non-existent. :o

[Jimbuna]

France outplayed Germany in every department which is hardly surprising considering current form.

Russia struggled to beat Finland by the one goal and Wales are halfway through the first half with neither team yet able to score.

I fancy Italy to win tonight.

[Skybird]

It has been clear since years that Löw and the DFB's system and hierarchies egoistically have overstayed their time, and that Löw has betrayed every progress that he once was responsible for having acchieved. But was the match really this bad (as I said, I have not watched it)? Puh...

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.faz.net/aktuell/sport/fussball-em/deutsches-team/bonjour-rumpelfussball-deutschland-unterliegt-frankreich-17392712.html?printPagedArticle%3Dtrue%23pageIndex _2

[Catfish]

They all should care less for their hair and tattoos, and better concentrate on playing :o

[Moonlight]

The Romans are marching triumphantly through Europe again, beware the Romans, what have the Romans ever done for us, they've injected some fizz into the competition and that's what's been missing. :yep:

Another 3-0 victory, they're not the most technically gifted players but that action man style of Mancini's team compensates for that deficiency.

[Moonlight]

Three more games today, so I'm going to predict all 3 of them. :D

Denmark vs Belgium
Ukraine vs North Macedonia
Netherlands vs Austria

Belgium, Ukraine and the Netherlands should all be the winners today, unless a disaster strikes again like it did for Spain. :O:

[Jimbuna]

Already looking like a two horse race between France and Germany but if they get drawn against each other before the final I'm yet to decide who the third team will be.

I'm also thinking England will achieve a semi final place at best.

[Jimbuna]

Denmark vs Belgium
Ukraine vs North Macedonia
Netherlands vs Austria

Belgium, Ukraine and the Netherlands should all be the winners today

SNAP!

[mapuc]

Some updates on The Danish football player Christian Eriksen.

It has been decided that he shall have a ICD-unit operated into his body.

This unit monitor his heart rhythm and will if there's a heart rhythm disorder it send a kind of signal.

It's a kind of a advanced Pacemaker.

Markus

[Moonlight]

Already looking like a two horse race between France and Germany but if they get drawn against each other before the final I'm yet to decide who the third team will be.

I'm also thinking England will achieve a semi final place at best.

Really?, no Italy, Belgium or Spain and the dark horses the Netherlands, me thinks there are 7 or 8 teams in with a shout if they take those bleeding shackles off and let rip. :O:

[Jimbuna]

Really?, no Italy, Belgium or Spain and the dark horses the Netherlands, me thinks there are 7 or 8 teams in with a shout if they take those bleeding shackles off and let rip. :O:

I meant to say 'France and Italy :/\\!!:oops:

[Jimbuna]

Some updates on The Danish football player Christian Eriksen.

It has been decided that he shall have a ICD-unit operated into his body.

This unit monitor his heart rhythm and will if there's a heart rhythm disorder it send a kind of signal.

It's a kind of a advanced Pacemaker.

Markus

Implantable Cardioverter Defibrillator and Denmark are leading Belgium 1-0 at half time.

[Moonlight]

All 3 predictions came good in the end, although there was some iffy defending and finishing by some of the teams.

3 games tomorrow but there's only 1 game that matters, who shall win, the Soggy Sporrans of Scotland or the Knee Benders of England, Oi, Scotland, give them a Glasgow kiss from me will ya. :O:

Croatia vs Czech Rep
Sweden vs Slovakia
England vs Scotland

I'll go for a Knee Bender win, if they don't get at least 3 goals against one of the worst teams at this tourney they should hang their heads in shame. :o

[mapuc]

I have used following bets on the 3 matches today.

Croatia - Czech Rep = 1X2(where I have made 1 as primary-The result I believe in X and 2 is backups)
Sweden - Slovakia = 1X(Where I have made X as primary)
England - Scotland = 1 (I think England will win this-Show the Scots who's boss)

Markus

[Moonlight]

Oh my god the Neanderthals of Scotland have descended on London, the kilt wearing piss heads are so bleeding deluded they think they're actually going to win this match. I've seen the Tartan Army on a three day piss up a long time ago and from what I've seen they haven't changed one bloody bit, I'm thinking these muppets along with their whisky sodden breath will go on the rampage after losing tonight.
Me thinks the cells will be full of Soggy Sporrans over the weekend, those coppers down their have no idea what these knob heads are capable of, lets hope they're too pissed to know they've lost, good luck London, you're going to need it. :o
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/15305259/scotland-fans-london-euro-2020-england-game/

Prediction, 1 riot and at least 90 arrests. :haha:

Edit.
WATCH WHERE EURO GOING Moment drunk Scotland fan is knocked down by motorbike after walking straight into traffic as Tartan Army hit London
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/15312370/scotland-england-euro-tartan-army-fan-crash-motorbike/

[Jimbuna]

No real surprises in yesterdays results then.

Today I only have an interest in the Sweden v Slovakia game because their is a TOON player in each side and the England v Scotland game for obvious reasons.

Having been involved in Tartan Army public disorder on numerous occasions I am confident the lads in blue from the south will have adequate countermeasures in place.

Hopefully we can take Scotland out of the euros just like we took em out of the EU :O:

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/43x8Ds3n/200247065-2883480025258351-6893827156974701562-n.jpg (https://postimg.cc/HrF45GXC)

[Moonlight]

Hopefully we can take Scotland out of the euros just like we took em out of the EU :O:

That quote is Epic. :haha:

[MGR1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32wDFCM7iSI
I'll leave it at that.:03:

Mike.

[Catfish]

https://i.postimg.cc/43x8Ds3n/200247065-2883480025258351-6893827156974701562-n.jpg (https://postimg.cc/HrF45GXC)
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^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWwv7PGumAA

:O:

Seriously in the first half England was not better than Scotland, but let's wait and see ..

edit: Well seems Croatia's next.

[Moonlight]

HaHaHa, the knee benders of England showed the world exactly what they're made of, they're a set of overpaid knee bending puffs, crikey, I nearly split my sides with laughter when I heard the result, never thought I'd say this but well done Scotland.

I don't think my ribs can take much more of this, it just shows you how bad they are when the Czechs got a draw against Croatia, never think you're going to win the tourney after one win against mediocre opposition. :haha:

[Catfish]

Croatia is actually quite good, but maybe some mediocre 'team' is able to spoil all the matches. Like the german one :D

[Moonlight]

^There last fifteen international results tells a different story, Croatia are a team in decline and they're on a downward spiral to mediocrity.

https://i.ibb.co/TcBTzHT/croatia.jpg (https://ibb.co/31yst0s)

[Skybird]

I red an opinion piece earlier, whose author argued, probably correctly, that the biggets loose ris the Germna team anyway. Becasue nboody fears the nGerman anymore. Their fighitn spirit. Their nimbus of beign a tournamen team becoming stronger and stronger in a tournament.

The Merkel principle - muddling through - has been brought into the sports by Löw. He overstayed his time. By many years. And in these years, he stuck to his old ideas that the others have copied and thne exceeded, and then he wodners that his thing doe snto work anymore.



I saw excerpts of the match against France by now. Holy Moly, it was shocking how eaisly their combative superathletes left the German younglings standing still on the field. How easily they just moved beyond them and left them behind. Wowh. And the body language, so totally different. "Me boss, you nothing."


Löwhas frozen the team in time 5-6 years ago. He froze himself. The DFB also froze. And its like this since years. The team physically simply is not up en par with athletics like many of the French showed.

[Jimbuna]

^ Germany and England both.

I still don't understand how we haven't conceded a goal in the last two games with our short armed T-Rex in goal.

[Moonlight]

We've got three games on TV today from the group of death, I'm going for a Spain win even though Alvaro Morata is bleeding useless, France will get another win but the third match is really tricky.
Can Germany be as bad as the first game and can Portugal score against them, France couldn't, I'm thinking Germany will draw the game today as they won't want to be humiliated by being knocked out in the first round.
That will give France 6 pts, Portugal 4 pts and Germany 1 pt, a win against Hungary from there next match could be enough. Remember, 4 pts could put them through to the next round.

Nicely worked out you dumbo, the only thing wrong with your predictions is you haven't focused on any unpredictable assets like Mr Twinkle Toes.
"Yes I know that, but he's not the force he was four years ago".
You bleeding idiot, he scored twice in his last match.
"STFU, I've made my decision and that's that".

As you can see these two teams, Portugal and Germany have given me a dilemma, well Twinkle Toes has, at 36 years old, can Ronaldo keep on running about like this before he collapse from exhaustion. I think they're going to sub him today after Half-Time if they want to progress through to the next round, if not he'll end up like Harry Kane who by all accounts is just as useless as Alvaro Morata is. :O:

Spain vs Poland
Hungary vs France
Portugal vs Germany

[Jimbuna]

Spain, France and Portugal for the win.

[Cyborg322]

You have to feel sorry for the England squad they have no time for training fitness and team talks, too busy doing TV advertisements. Apart from Phil Foden of course but he's not done any ads due to his bad haircut. I think the whole England team should bring back the "Mullet" maybe that would fix the problem. Some of the best England performances came with Mullet equipped squads

[Moonlight]

But the mullet is out of fashion, just like technical ability is for the England side. :O:

[Jimbuna]

Hungary holding France to a draw at half time....whatever next?

[Moonlight]

Hungary got a 1-1 draw with France, it's a funny old game this football malarkey, me thinks that France could be a bit overrated or just plain bleeding rubbish. Only 1 goal for France after 2 games and that's with supposedly the best front line at this tourney, never mind France at least England are more rubbish than you are. :haha:

[mapuc]

(wave with my right hand)Good bye any profit I would have made if France had won the game.

Markus

[MGR1]

I always find it amusing whenever England loses or draws against a lesser team - navel gazing and self flagellation inevitably follows.:timeout:

At the end of the day, it might be wise for the England support to always temper their expectations - there's nothing in the sporting manual that says England must always be victorous, regardless of the quality of the opposition.

Overconfidence has always been England's Achilles heel.:nope:

Mike.:hmmm:

[Catfish]

Germany 2:1, this time well deserved. More chances than goals and this time they really play.. short to first half only though.

[Moonlight]

Portugal score 3 times and are losing 2-1, you couldn't bloody make this crap up. :haha:

[Jimbuna]

I do believe there is a certain element of jockeying for position afoot.

[Catfish]

:o really did not expect this :woot::rock:

[Jimbuna]

Me neither but a good result nonetheless.

[Moonlight]

I always find it amusing whenever England loses or draws against a lesser team - navel gazing and self flagellation inevitably follows.:timeout:

At the end of the day, it might be wise for the England support to always temper their expectations - there's nothing in the sporting manual that says England must always be victorous, regardless of the quality of the opposition.

Overconfidence has always been England's Achilles heel.:nope:

Mike.:hmmm:

Well I'm glad I'm not one of those old boy, whenever an international football match involves England I always give the team grief, it's not because I have high expectations for them it's because the tossers think they're gods gift to football. :doh:

I'm thinking that France see Portugal as a threat that they can eliminate in the first round after that defeat to Germany today, me thinks their main striker Mbappé is playing like a currant and with Twinkle Toes on the pitch anything can happen, we should be in for a thriller. :haha:
As for Germany, they had to come good sooner or later and I wouldn't be surprised if the criticism they've had has geed them up to be one of the top contenders again.

[Skybird]

Hehe, had my pizza, cleaned the kitchen, then a minute ago, 5 minutes to 9 p.m. I sat down and switched on the TV to watch the German match - and learned that they had played early and that it already was over since one hour... :D

[Moonlight]

Spain 1-1 Poland, a well deserved draw for Spain today, :O: anything more would have been a travesty of justice, is it just me that finds Spain boring to watch?.

A win for Italy and Switzerland tomorrow.

Italy vs Wales
Switzerland vs Turkey

[Jimbuna]

Tis a shame both games begin at the same time but my choice of viewing has to be the minnows of Wales fighting against what must surely be an inevitable win for Italy. Perhaps a draw even.

The Swiss should overcome what has been a clearly disappointing Turkish side this competition.

[Moonlight]

NEED A LI-ON England team head to luxury pad to get pampered before Czech Republic clash after being booed off over 0-0 Scotland draw
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/15334324/england-team-luxury-pampered-czech-republic/

Observations of a plonker. :haha:

Is this just one of the reasons England's lacklustre performances are now inevitable, the team are hiding away at Tottenham Hotspur’s swanky Myddelton Lodge, these highly paid pampered poofters have every modern extravagance at their disposal, whatever happened to that old saying "Keep em lean, keep em mean?. :O:

Apart from that lodge bollocks, they've got a coach who makes that boring twat Steve Davis look and sound interesting, the FA and Southgate himself are in denial about him being out of his depth and the sooner he's got rid of the better. But we have a problem, the FA suits won't do that because "he's their man, he's their choice, he's our saviour", ****me, this attitude is what's wrong with the English game.

What's needed, (and it's needed it for over fifty years) is a top down purge of all the deadwood at the FA and I mean everyone, no exceptions, do what the Germans did and overhaul every bit of it, from schoolboy level upwards, It's going to take ten years or so, but at least when they go into an international tournament after it's all done they'll have a chance of winning the bleeding thing. :salute:

[Jimbuna]

Congratulations on Wales qualifying for the knockout rounds despite a 1-0 defeat and well played Switzerland in beating Turkey 3-1. I hope it is enough to make you one of the top two thirds to go through.

[Moonlight]

Switzerland just might have done enough to see them through to the next round but, it's going to be a close run thing.

[mapuc]

Got a text message from Danish Bet. Telling me that I had won appx 36$ I bet appx 32$. Could have been higher if I didn't miss on two matches.

Markus

[Moonlight]

Stick it all on Belgium and the Netherlands to win tonight, in fact if I were you I'd stick another $300 on top of that for a nice little earner. :D

[Catfish]

Got a text message from Danish Bet. Telling me that I had won appx 36$ I bet appx 32$. Could have been higher if I didn't miss on two matches. Markus
So small congrats but still..

And i agree with Moonlight, i would bet some moeny on The Netherlands .. not sure with Belgium, Finnland isn't bad. We can bet together (i'll invest 50 Euros) and if you win you pay the bill at Milliway's.. when we get there :D

[Jimbuna]

Belgium, Russia, Holland and Ukraine for the win tonight.

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/Hn7nK9Tk/202003684-10222239576872836-7009587015607144027-n.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Jimbuna]

As if we weren't in enough trouble as it is.

England's Ben Chilwell and Mason Mount have to self-isolate as a precaution after coming into close contact with Scotland's Billy Gilmour and could miss Tuesday's game with the Czech Republic.

The pair were seen interacting with Chelsea team-mate Gilmour after Friday's draw with Scotland at Wembley.

Gilmour has since tested positive for Covid-19 and will miss Scotland's final group game against Croatia on Tuesday.

"I can't say it isn't disruptive," said England boss Gareth Southgate.

Asked whether the pair would be available for Tuesday's game, Southgate added: "We don't know at the moment.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57560206

[Jimbuna]

Belgium, Russia, Holland and Ukraine for the win tonight.

Two games finished and I was correct on the Dutch prediction but Austria beat Ukraine.

[Catfish]

Denmark is way better than Russia up to now :)

[Moonlight]

The Netherlands and Belgium made it into the next round but Finland had their chances even though they were playing defensively and were hoping to nick a win.

Tomorrows games.
Croatia vs Scotland
Czech Rep vs England

I'm going for a win for Croatia and a draw for England tomorrow, we might just see the Knee Benders coming home early if things go awry. The Soggy Sporrans will need more than a bloody miracle tomorrow if you want my opinion, the pissheads could always level things up at half time by necking a bottle of whisky each. :O:

[Jimbuna]

Denmark is way better than Russia up to now :)

By a country mile Kai :yep:

[Jimbuna]

The Netherlands and Belgium made it into the next round but Finland had their chances even though they were playing defensively and were hoping to nick a win.

Tomorrows games.
Croatia vs Scotland
Czech Rep vs England

I'm going for a win for Croatia and a draw for England tomorrow, we might just see the Knee Benders coming home early if things go awry. The Soggy Sporrans will need more than a bloody miracle tomorrow if you want my opinion, the pissheads could always level things up at half time by necking a bottle of whisky each. :O:

England or 'Knee Benders' as you prefer to call them are already home and FYI have already qualified for the last sixteen as a consequence of last nights results.

I'm going Croatia and England for the win.

[Moonlight]

Crikey, what an anti climax that is, me thinks there'll be some foul play tonight with no one wanting to be winners of the group. A loss by the Czechs to England would be a godsend as they wouldn't end up playing a team from the group of death in the next round. Expect some boring football from them both tonight, and to spice things up a bit I think there'll be some comical defending and goalkeeping as well. :O:

[mapuc]

Throughout the day the radio channels has send sound clips from yesterdays football match between Denmark and Russia. It's like they already had won the trophy. Denmark seems to forget one very important thing. Belgium, Denmark should send a big thank you to them..It wouldn't have mattet if Denmark had won 15-0 if Finland had got 1 Point. Denmark did what it was expected they won and with so many goal that they became second-with help from Belgium.

Markus

[Moonlight]

Stick it all on Belgium and the Netherlands to win tonight, in fact if I were you I'd stick another $300 on top of that for a nice little earner. :D

So did you?, have you got so much cash flowing through your greasy little mitts that you don't have to bet ever again or did your bottle smash just like Russia's did?. :haha:
Belgium were fortunate yesterday but if they don't tighten that defence up they're going to come a cropper, I still think the Netherlands are the team to beat but even they've got a dodgy defence, it's not who scores most that's going to win this tourney it's who lets the most in at the other end that decides who the champions will be. :D

[Jimbuna]

It really shouldn't matter who you want to play because you have to beat every team your drawn against if you're going to be successful.

[mapuc]

Who among the players from Wales could make Denmark look foolish this Saturday evening. I know Bale is a great player and if he is in a good mood he could score a goal or two. But beside him who else is there.

Markus

[Catfish]

England looking good so far, just wonder what the referee is doing :doh:
edit: not his decisions, but he was often running right into the paths of players...

The second half was not so great, but England kept the pressure.
Maybe too much czech beer ..

[MGR1]

Croatia 3, Scotland 1.
That's that then. I can get some peace and quiet now.:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:
Mike.

[Moonlight]

Southgate has set the Knee Benders a tough task in their next match, I'm not going to wish them luck as they're going to need more than that to win this tourney.
I watched the Soggy Sporrans game and there was some awful defending from them, they need to focus on improving their football abilities because overall it was average to mediocre at best.

The group winners face a potentially tough last-16 game against the runners-up in Group F (France, Portugal, Germany or Hungary) at Wembley on Tuesday, 29 June (17:00).

The runners-up will meet the runners-up in Group E (Spain, Sweden, Poland or Slovakia) in Copenhagen on Monday (17:00).

Should the third-placed side progress from Group D, they will take on either the Group C winners in Budapest on Sunday (17:00), Belgium later the same day in Seville at 20:00 or the Group E winners in Glasgow on Tuesday (20:00).

[Moonlight]

Todays games.
Slovakia vs Spain
Sweden vs Poland
Germany vs Hungary
Portugal vs France

Some of these matches are a gamblers nightmare but as ever I'm going to pick two of them, Germany look a certainty so I'm not choosing that match but that Spain one is intriguing.

Edit, changed my mind on this game.
I'm selecting Spain even though that Morata is a useless pillock, and I'll choose France to send Twinkle Toes and his mob out of the tourney.
I'm selecting a bore draw instead as that Morata is a useless pillock, and I'll choose France to send Twinkle Toes and his mob out of the tourney.

I think I might regret both of those picks but I'll hopefully go down in a blaze of glory, if not, I'll be like the Soggy Sporrans and go out in a whimper. :haha:

[Jimbuna]

Croatia 3, Scotland 1.
That's that then. I can get some peace and quiet now.:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:
Mike.

I fully expect to be saying the same thing after the next game :)

[Jimbuna]

I've an interest in the Slovakia game just because Dubravka will be in goal and the other interest is finding out who we play next.

Whoever it is whether Germany, France, Portugal or Hungary, it will be a tough one.

[mapuc]

I support UEFA in this case.

Let football and other sport be a place where Politics and other society related issue is a no go.

Markus

[Moonlight]

What case is that then Markus as I don't know what you're referring to.

[mapuc]

What case is that then Markus as I don't know what you're referring to.

The Munich city council had decided to raise the rainbow flag on the Stadium-But UEFA said no to this.

UEFA has declined the Munich city council’s application to have its stadium filled with colours, saying it understands the intention behind the proposal but it “must decline this request” because of its political context.

https://www.euronews.com/2021/06/22/uefa-rejects-munich-request-for-rainbow-colours-for-germany-vs-hungary-match

Markus

[Skybird]

They should leave these kind of ideological crusades out of sports. I absolutely think so. Why is this stuff shoved down my throat while I want to wtach football...?

Just that UEFA is not the most honest of brokers when propagating this.

Right message but wrong messenger.


And for "ein Zeichen setzen", a German missionary hobby being turned into a mandatory civil duty, I recommend courses in grammar at the community college.

[Moonlight]

The western world is going down the pan fast, Knee Bending is not a political gesture as well then?, BLM are political so I wonder why the knee is not banned too.

[Skybird]

Let sports be sports again! Lets include the the audience! :D


https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/02/05/arts/05douglas-streaming/05douglas-streaming-mobileMasterAt3x.jpg

[mapuc]

The western world is going down the pan fast, Knee Bending is not a political gesture as well then?, BLM are political so I wonder why the knee is not banned too.

Even this Knee bending should be banned-it has nothing to do with fooball.

Yes even racism happens in Sport. But here the authorities has very effective weapons against this.

Here in Denmark- following happens if a supporter group makes racist against a player on the other team.
First their team lose the match.
Second(if it continues) Their team get a 30 points withdraw.
Third. Kicked down to a lower division.

They have to prove it.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

https://i.postimg.cc/CKRrjXwt/204354929-1648021075403137-3401699518738507498-n.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[Moonlight]

Who'd be a bleeding goalkeeper, :haha: the poor currant is going to be in for a lot of stick from the Slovak press, he should apply for Spanish citizenship as I don't think it would be refused.

[Skybird]

There I make up my mind to watch a game played by the Germans, my first match viewed this time - and then it's the gurgling and gagging that I feared. Creepy. And Löw still is there.

Die Hard, eh? And then this idiotic debate about rainbows. Germans... Even some of the players thought they must let the world now what they think about it. Should better focus on the teams performance instead. Wasting time you can if you master the sports easy-peezy and its no challenge for you anymore

Should have made another pizza in that time, that would have been time better spent. But I watched two matches in one. My first and my last match during this tournament.

[Jimbuna]

There I make up my mind to watch a game played by the Germans, my first match viewed this time - and then it's the gurgling and gagging that I feared. Creepy. And Löw still is there.

Die Hard, eh? And then this idiotic debate about rainbows. Germans... Even some of the players thought they must let the world now what they think about it. Should better focus on the teams performance instead. Wasting time you can if you master the sports easy-peezy and its no challenge for you anymore

Should have made another pizza in that time, that would have been time better spent. But I watched two matches in one. My first and my last match during this tournament.

You not going to watch your country against England next Tuesday then?

[Skybird]

Oh, I did not notice the pairing.

Lets put it this way. Maybe, if I do not make pizza, I will consider watching your country playing against Germany. :)
I cant help myself. I am really ticking against the German team this time, and it annoys me that they one more time again have just bumbled heir way through at the last minute and imo undeservedly. Maybe because Löw shamelessly overstayed his time, maybe because I do not like the players. Maybe I just cannot identify with this group this time. It just does not click, there is zero emotional connection between me and this team. None. No identification whatever on my side. And the whole ideological tamptam in Germany about rainbows and the messy situation with the DFB's fat cats, it all come sotgether. They pissed me off.

Possible that I am done with it forever.

I rather talk about pizza. :D

[Catfish]

Come on, no one loves Bayern-Muenchen unless their players are in an international competition. Well a few maybe ..

E.g. Leon Goretzka is very good i think. Problem in the last game with Hungary, the latter played like Germany did for two decades in the 20ieth century: "Standfußball". You can win with it, but you are boring everyone to death.

The german strategy worked well against a team like Portugal that wants to play instead of blocking all the time, but of course it should have adapted better. First hungarian goal in the first five minutes sure was a cold shower :haha:

[Jimbuna]

It all starts again tomorrow with Wales v Denmark and Italy v Austria

I'm hoping Wales will edge it but I'm not overly confident and I expect my choice for eventual competition winner, Italy will defeat the Austrians.

[Moonlight]

Todays games.
I think Denmark have the edge over Wales but they will not be an easy team to beat, Italy should win too, although I think Austria will also have their moments as well.
Wales vs Denmark
Italy vs Austria

[mapuc]

Every time the Danes or the Swedes meet other team in a tournament I always say-Expect the worst, but hope for the best.

If they lose I wouldn't be so sad and I'll be double so happy if they win.

I know Wales has Bale, but who else can make a bad day for the Danes ?

Markus

[Jimbuna]

I know Wales has Bale, but who else can make a bad day for the Danes ?

Markus

The referee and/or VAR :03:

[Jimbuna]

Into the second half now and Denmark have a 2-0 lead so I can't see any way back from Wales unless a miracle happens.

[mapuc]

4-0 :doh:
A result I did not expect.

Was expecting 1-0/0-1/2-1/1-2.

Denmark own the game had most of the momentum during the game.

Markus

[Catfish]

^ indeed, i did not think Wales would go under in such a way :o
But well done Denmark :)

No goal between Italy and Austria until the 90ieth minute. However Italy now scored two in the first half of the extra time.
And Italy won 2:1. Close call though.

[Jimbuna]

Two tight games tonight but I expect Holland to edge it against Czech Republic and Belgium to to the same against Portugal.

[mapuc]

Holland - Czech is the match I will watch with interest. Winner from this shall meet Denmark in the quarterfinal.

Most interesting match for me is England Vs Germany. Germany is and have always been my favorite team Holland come second.

Markus

[Moonlight]

Yep, Belgium and the Netherlands to go through to the next round as well.

I wonder if Twinkle Toes will achieve the international goal scoring record tonight?.
Portugal will go out with a bang tonight because the players are not very good defensively, the Germany game proved that, If it's an open game as I suspect it will be I expect Belgium and Portugal to put on the game of the tournament for us, where have I heard that before. :O:

[mapuc]

The Netherlands is out-I thought they would win this game against the Czechs

So first quarterfinal is Denmark-Czech Rep.

Later it's Belgium-Portogal-one of them shall meet Italy

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Aye, the Czechs totally outplayed the Dutch and were deserved winner.

England are the only team to beat them in the competition so far so I hoper that doesn't turn out to be an omen.

[mapuc]

^ It's in the final, where they would meet again if both team win rest of their matches.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

I really can't see either of them reaching the final but you never know I suppose.

[Skybird]

Der Spiegel writes:


The stunt the British government and the football association Uefa are currently pulling off in the UK can only be described as a bad joke. 22,000 fans watched Italy beating Austria at London's Wembley Stadium on Saturday. It should be twice as many tomorrow when England meets the German team in the European Championship round of 16. 60,000 spectators are planned for the final of the European Championship.

The number of new corona infections in Great Britain has risen to its highest level in more than four months. The authorities reported 18,270 new cases on Saturday, more than since February 5. The growth is extremely dynamic because of the more aggressive Delta variant. Compared to the Saturday of the previous week, the number of newly infected people almost doubled. And that although 32.2 million British people already have full vaccination protection, a good 60 percent of all adults.

Even if the spectators in the stadium should be vaccinated or tested - the signal effect of full stadiums is fatal in view of the infection situation in Great Britain. But the Uefa is mainly about the money - and maybe also about pretty pictures that are supposed to pretend football normality, which unfortunately does not yet exist. First, Uefa urged the British government to let as many spectators as possible into the stadium. Then the government even exceeds these expectations. This is nothing less than organized irresponsibility.

[Jimbuna]

^ Fully agree :yep:

[Jimbuna]

Belgium held on to beat Portugal and progress to the next round.

Tonight we see Croatia v Spain and France v Switzerland

I'm going for Spanish and French victories.

[Jimbuna]

Gareth Southgate has asked for the kick off on Tuesday to be delayed until 19:14 or 19:39 because then England might have a chance of beating the Germans ! :O:

[Moonlight]

After the capitulation of the Dutch yesterday I'm thinking I should take up predicting the bloody weather instead. Well done to the Czechs, a well deserved win.

Croatia vs Spain
France vs Switzerland

If Alvaro Morata is not playing I would go for Spain, he's one of the poorest excuses of a striker in this tourney, Croatia aren't much better either, I've tossed a coin and it's come up Croatia, so that's it then a bloody coin toss. :doh:

I've seen France play and I'm still not convinced they'll win this competition, I expect France to win this one though and that Olympic diver (Mbappe) to get a penalty awarded as a bonus.

[mapuc]

WHAT did I just see !?

Oh Man this must be this century's own goal

Markus

[Jimbuna]

ET 111 mins and Spain lead Croatia 5-3 quite entertaining.

[Jimbuna]

^ And so it ended. Watched it on my monitor because of personal commitments but off downstairs now to watch France v Switzerland on the big screen....probably an initial bore draw knowing my luck.

[Catfish]

Wow now those were two GAMES :up:, and the last still on .. :o

[mapuc]

but off downstairs now to watch France v Switzerland on the big screen....probably an initial bore draw knowing my luck.

Then I can inform you that the match was far from bored.

Markus

[Moonlight]

Had to go and visit someone in the hospital so I missed the Spain match and half of the France game as well, the second half of that match though was a bloody cracker, this tournament has come alive.

That loss to Switzerland has made my day, next up is the Knee Benders and if they suffer the same fate tomorrow I'll be ecstatic. :haha:

[Jimbuna]

Wow now those were two GAMES :up:, and the last still on .. :o

Then I can inform you that the match was far from bored.

Markus

Yep that second game was awesome viewing.

First game up tonight is obviously the most important so may the best team on the night win.

Sweden to beat Ukraine in the second game.

[Skybird]

German defence ministry plans to send a squadron of TUI bombers and drop some hundred tons of German tourist over Wembley. :D Due to the mandatory 14-days quarantine afterwards, its a Himmelfahrtskommando.

What they allow in total visitor numbers in Wembley, is abolute and total madness. its a superspreader event. Populism at its worst and most unscrupolous. Not many Germans are to be expected. DFB expects around 2000 at max, and had no ticket contingent to sell. No tourists are allowed in, only Germans who live in Ireland or England can enter the stadium.

[Catfish]

The german team will sneak in an hour before and reserve the best positions, by plastering Wembley with bath towels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzHihXOiNqk

[Skybird]

Amongts them both team's crew quarters and sideline benches.

[Moonlight]

The Towel Droppers against the Knee Benders, it's an interesting matchup this one, the Germans hit and miss team against a tired and misfiring England striker.
Nearly every time Germany start off slowly pundits start writing them off, I expect Germany to win this match and probably go on to win the tournament as well, as for England, they'll come back home and swan around like pillocks with their fancy tattoos and fancy hair styles, bloody muppets.

Sweden should just have the edge to win this one, I wouldn't be surprised if the Ukraine proved me wrong though.

England vs Germany
Sweden vs Ukraine

[mapuc]

There's no in-between when it comes to Germans play. Either they play awful and lose their match or they play well above average and then no other team can beat them.

I hope that they will play well above average tonight.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

The german team will sneak in an hour before and reserve the best positions, by plastering Wembley with bath towels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzHihXOiNqk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuIJqF8av6I

[mapuc]

Ok Jim you can start to make plans for what you shall have to eat when your national football team plays in the Semifinal.

I know Sweden-Even if they should, as predicted, win against Ukraine. They does not have what it takes to win against a team like England.
I'm 95 % Sure-It's always this unknown factor.

I can't speak for Ukraine-But I guess they will easier to meet than the Swedes.

Markus

[Catfish]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuIJqF8av6I
Hey it was me who posted this Carling blk Label first decades ago :haha::haha::up:

Both teams were not really good, German made more pressure first and had chances, but no luck. What few will forgive is the booing during the german anthem.
Congrats to the english team :)

[Skybird]

Ate during the first halftime watching it, and thought "So la la". Happily dozed off after the halftime break. Did not see it when the sky was falling, but dreamed of a squirrel sleeping on my lap. Vaccinations can be happiness, if properly timed. :)

P.S. Löw is over. We owe you for that, England. ;)
He had his time and merits, but he overstayed both, and way too long. If he wouldn't have, I wouldn't say anything bad about him. But the past couple of years were unforgivable.


After the world title 2014, the team made it into the semi-finals of the Euro 2016, and won the Confed Cup 2017 - at these tournaments it would have been right to leave the stage, to hand over the helm with a ship in good shape and thing sin order, still at the height of his career. You leave the party when it is going best, Yogi - hasn't nobody ever told you? The desaster 2018 should have marked the time when he should have understood and quit - and since he did not, when the DFB should have fired him. Now its 2021. Years to late. Years too late. And that is what will remain to be the most vivid memory of the era he formed: not the title 2014, not the triumph over Brazil - but the infamous end, and staying glued to his post for years longer.

[Cyborg322]

Good job England, deserved the win :Kaleun_Party:

[Skybird]

Oh, and one thing. Stop that stupid kneeling and political correct babbling thing, and concentrate on playing the ball. A sports club not minding to go to racist and homophobe Quatar, where construction workers have died in numbers and nobody cared, to play the next tournament there, has no credibility when "protesting" against these things as long as the protest costs no money. Its ludicrous. Its populist posing, and nothing more.


BTW, congrats to team England. :up:

[mapuc]

^ :salute:

Markus

[Skybird]

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.faz.net/aktuell/sport/fussball-em/deutsches-team/deutsches-em-aus-selbstbetrug-von-jogi-loew-und-dfb-fliegt-auf-17412888.html

[Moonlight]

Bah!, I wondered which German team was going to show up tonight, unfortunately it wasn't the Portugal game one, oh well time for a re-think from Germany I reckon.
I'm not surprised the Ukraine won as I knew they hadn't much to beat, the skill level from both matches was abysmal though, I missed about an hour of each game as it was bleeding awful to watch, both of the teams who got through need to improve to win this tourney. :doh:

[mapuc]

England will have an easier way to the semifinal than the other teams.

Was about to write that Ukraine does not have what it takes...Hmm do not forget Greece..no one well almost no one was expecting they would win the Euro 2000.

So the question is: Does Ukraine have what it takes can they beat England in the quarterfinal ??

Markus

[Skybird]

No mercy with Löw. And why, after at least 3 years of denying reality and fumbling around orientation-free? The nimbus of the Germans being a tournament team and is destroyed, and since several years already. Lets face it, they are not top class anymore. Not even second grade. Since years.

The DFB'S reaction?

https://www.tierwelt.ch/sites/default/files/styles/header_gallery_news/public/images/shutterstock_strauss.jpg?itok=ofHtb0wZ
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[Skybird]

FOCUS writes:

Bierhoff [the team manager, Skybird] sees no need for fundamental changes in the national team's supervisory staff. "All the players said how comfortable they felt here."

Good heavens - have mercy and let it rain brains, please...!!!! I just wait for this dumbazz saying "Macht nix, dabei sein ist was zählt." I cant stand this egoist dumb idiot. Just concerned about his own job - with a high income.

How comes that none of the players feel ashamed enough to step down...??

The self-betrayal of the past couple of years - they already are at continuing with it!

[Cyborg322]

Bah!, I wondered which German team was going to show up tonight, unfortunately it wasn't the Portugal game one, oh well time for a re-think from Germany I reckon.
I'm not surprised the Ukraine won as I knew they hadn't much to beat, the skill level from both matches was abysmal though, I missed about an hour of each game as it was bleeding awful to watch, both of the teams who got through need to improve to win this tourney. :doh:

Where do I start ? I disagree with most of that

* Germany playing the same squad as Portugal game would of made little or no difference. They had the players the skill the problem is elsewhere

* Ukraine won with the Swedes 1 man down it was 50/50 at best until then

* You are not going to get league type games from Knockout competitions especially with some of these ref decisions stifling the games.

* I saw some real passion in both last nights games something that has been missing in a lot of the other games. France is a good example of the opposite they thought they would just have to turn up to win.

* I've watched all the games so far I'm sure it will get even better as teams progress. To expect more in all instances is out of tune with the reality of knockout competitions

[Jimbuna]

Where do I start ? I disagree with most of that

* Germany playing the same squad as Portugal game would of made little or no difference. They had the players the skill the problem is elsewhere

* Ukraine won with the Swedes 1 man down it was 50/50 at best until then

* You are not going to get league type games from Knockout competitions especially with some of these ref decisions stifling the games.

* I saw some real passion in both last nights games something that has been missing in a lot of the other games. France is a good example of the opposite they thought they would just have to turn up to win.

* I've watched all the games so far I'm sure it will get even better as teams progress. To expect more in all instances is out of tune with the reality of knockout competitions

Pretty much agree with that,

For me it was a chance for England to stop the historical rot against Germany, having never knocked them out of a competition since 1966 and they did just that.

I was pleasantly surprised to see Pickford perform so well and saddened to see Kane pedestrian yet again, despite scoring.

The biggest positive for me was Grealish and he must be in the next starting eleven surely.

Ukraine, just like Germany, will be a tough game but if England can find that next upwards gear they have a great chance.

[Threadfin]

Low should have fallen on his sword following World Cup 2018. Of course he didn't and the DFB failed to act, so this is what they get. Self inflicted if you ask me.

I agree Grealish must start on the left, shift Sterling to the right and make Saka an impact substitute to test tiring defenders.

[Moonlight]

Where do I start ? I disagree with most of that

* Germany playing the same squad as Portugal game would of made little or no difference. They had the players the skill the problem is elsewhere

* Ukraine won with the Swedes 1 man down it was 50/50 at best until then

* You are not going to get league type games from Knockout competitions especially with some of these ref decisions stifling the games.

* I saw some real passion in both last nights games something that has been missing in a lot of the other games. France is a good example of the opposite they thought they would just have to turn up to win.

* I've watched all the games so far I'm sure it will get even better as teams progress. To expect more in all instances is out of tune with the reality of knockout competitions
I've watched a lot of games as well and the only teams I've seen with any technical ability at this tournament are Spain and Belgium, the modern game doesn't require much more than the over average footballer and that's not the tournaments fault it's modern coaching methods at fault.
If you watch the games again you'll see what I've been seeing, 90% of passes are safe passes either sideways or backwards. You keep enjoying this garbage they're serving up if you like it I won't knock you for it.

I'll use one example from the England vs Germany game, England have the ball near the German corner flag, 4 passes later it's in the England keepers possession, the awareness and skill level of these modern players is pathetic. :haha:

[Jimbuna]

I agree Grealish must start on the left, shift Sterling to the right and make Saka an impact substitute to test tiring defenders.

The one problem being Southgate who is inherently defensive biased and not in any way offensive minded.

[mapuc]

Here's a Danish Sportsjournalist view and ranking of the last eight team left in this Euro 2020 Tournament.

8. Ukraine
- It was a tough Tuesday night for the Ukrainians with extended playing time against Sweden. They are both worn out, and then they up against England.

- Ukraine is the worst team left. They have not impressed in any of their matches. Maybe a little in the first match against Holland in the group stage, but otherwise not.

7. Czech Rep.
- The Czechs was a bit lucky against the Netherlands in the round of 16 team, Where a dutch player received a red card. The Czechs have a good striker in Patrik Schick from Bayer Leverkusen, but otherwise they have to live on a strong collective. Here they are not as good as Denmark, and therefore they smoke out.

6.Switzerland
- It was impressive what Switzerland did the other day when they beat the French world champions. In that match, they were better than we have seen them in years.

- But I still think Spain will be a mouthful to big for them.
The Spaniards are finding the right gear, if they don't shoot themselves in the foot.

5. Denmark
- If you look at the other four teams, they are probably better than Denmark, even though Denmark is on the right track. I think we will win over the Czech Republic, but we will have a very difficult time at Wembley in front of 60,000 English spectators.

- It's the width of quality that we lack a little in relation to the top teams. I think we have shown that we can participate and our form curve is increasing. We have played extremely well in the last couple of games, but I unfortunately think England will be too big a mouthful.

4.Belgium
Belgium looked tired and worn out at the end of the match against Portugal. They have a lot of older players and then I think it could be a problem for them if they are going to miss both Eden Hazard and Kevin de Bruyne against Italy. Then it will be hard

Without these two stars, they will be missing some players who can decide that. They still have Romelu Lukaku, but I think the Italian collective is better.

3. Spain
- Spain can at times be one of the most impressive teams. They are insanely good in the pressure and with the ball, but they have two problems that they must have eliminated. They should not give the opponent stupid goals and then they should score on their chances.

- In terms of play, they are one of the best teams in the tournament. They have found the melody and they can get really dangerous.

2. Italy
- I was really happy that Italy won a victory (over Austria after extra time, ed.), Where they outplayed the opponent. This has benefited them that they have fought a victory. That’s why I think they’ll get to the finals.

1. England

- England becomes European champion.

- They have a fantastic wide team, especially offensively, and then the home court advantage is important. The home fans went completely crazy against Germany. It will be crucial. There will be virtually only Englishmen on the stands, almost 58,000 in a possible semi-final that goes grassat.

- It also means something that Kane started to scored (against Germany, ed.). If he starts scoring goals now, then it is a whole new resource for the English team.

- It's not because England have impressed, but they have not conceded goals yet. We know that it is crucial who has the most solid defensive. We also saw this at the European Championships in 2016.

My point.

I can't say who will lift the trophy Sunday evening on 11 July.

Markus

[Cyborg322]

the awareness and skill level of these modern players is pathetic. :haha: Bukayo Saka one of the best players I've seen for decades sharp aware skilled and overflowing with enthusiasm I could list loads more. Its the modern game the need to win sometimes at the expense of entertainment not modern players that's just silly

One of my all time favourite players is Paul Gascoigne brilliant in his day. Saka has a bit of his DNA + hes a smart kid only 19 more to come.


Markus thanks for that info England are now doomed

[MGR1]

Found this on Twitter after England's win:

From ‘overpaid woke neo-Marxist virtue signalling scum’ to national heroes. What a difference 94 minutes can make….
Mike.:O:

[Cyborg322]

Found this on Twitter after England's win:


Mike.:O:
what you on about ? they are still "overpaid woke neo-Marxist virtue signalling scum" after the win, that will not change unless they become outright winners

[Threadfin]

The one problem being Southgate who is inherently defensive biased and not in any way offensive minded.


I agree with that assessment, but it would take some mental gymnastics to see Saka as significantly more 'defensive' than Grealish wouldn't it? Saka has better recovery pace, but as to his positioning or defensive mindset and skills I'm thinking he's no better than Grealish off the ball.


Now if he recalls Milner back in to the squad... :)

[Cyborg322]

I agree with that assessment, but it would take some mental gymnastics to see Saka as significantly more 'defensive' than Grealish wouldn't it? Saka has better recovery pace, but as to his positioning or defensive mindset and skills I'm thinking he's no better than Grealish off the ball.


Now if he recalls Milner back in to the squad... :)

Fair comment. What they are equally good at is drawing defenders towards them freeing up Kane this at the expense of regular barging and ankle breakers . maybe why Grealish is held back 'till later on in game. I can see Saka becoming public enemy number 1 for opposing teams

[Threadfin]

Saka's raw. His physical skillset is fantastic, but Grealish has the vision and creativity to unlock defenses, which is not abundant in the England squad in my view. You need some of this against top opposition.


I think Saka's energy and pace would have more impact coming off the bench. But I'm not England manager now am i? :)

[Catfish]

England has a chance now, and i would really like them to win the EM after all this time (if just to break this psychological deadlock :03:)

Then Italy.. but looking at all who are gone, maybe a (presumed) outsider does it this time.

[Jimbuna]

As much as I'm an Englishman and a supporter of my country I'm going to stick with my original prediction which is Italy.

[Cyborg322]

booo :haha:

[Jimbuna]

Manure fan :O:

[mapuc]

I think in the Semifinal we will see.

England-Denmark
Spain-Italy/Belgium

I don't think Ukraine has what it takes to win against England.
I'm a little uncertain when it comes to Denmark their chances around 80-90%

Switzerland can they make another great match against Spain ?
Italy-Belgium-This is a though one. I think Italy will win this their chances 70-80%.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

First two quarter finals tonight.

Switzerland v Spain and Belgium v Italy

Anything can happen at this stage but I'm going for Spain and Italy to progress.

[Moonlight]

^That looks like the correct result on paper but that's not always been the case in this tourney.
Have Switzerland got any more heroics left in them, I'd say they're going to need more than that to beat a rejuvenated Spain team, if Spain quickened up in and around the final third they would win this tournament easily.

It's a bit of a puzzle with Belgium, when they're on form they can be devastating but they were on the backfoot for long periods against Portugal, I'm thinking their pretty football could be their undoing against the action men of Italy.

Switzerland v Spain
Belgium v Italy

[Cyborg322]

there is not a team in the whole tournament the can win this "easily"

[Catfish]

Unbelievable :o
Penalty ... 1:1

3:1 for Spain.. but really lucky. Switzerland held two but then ..

[Cyborg322]

Italy look like the team to beat solid performance, impressive, almost another extra timer tho

[mapuc]

It's going to be England - Italy in the final.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

I felt the pain for the Swiss but I did predict a Spanish win.

My pick for the overall winner Italy totally dismantled the world number one ranked team Belgium in what turned out to be a great game. It's just a pity one side had to lose.

Tonight we see the Czechs v Denmark and Ukraine v England.

My pick is Denmark and England to progress but the winning margin will be no more than one goal or perhaps even a penalty shootout.

[Jimbuna]

Italy look like the team to beat solid performance, impressive, almost another extra timer tho

Look who predicted Italy for the tournament winner first :smug:

[Moonlight]

Today is underdog day, well why not, most of the favourites have already been sent packing so why not these two as well, I'm sure there's still some surprises to come out of this tourney.
The biggest surprise will come in the Spain vs Italy match, yep, that useless bleeding moron Alvaro Morata will put his shooting boots on and bag himself a hattrick, bloody hell! what made me come up with that bloody rubbish. :o

Czech Rep vs Denmark
Ukraine vs England

[mapuc]

There are those who remember Denmark Czech 2004. Expert said it would be a tight fight-Denmark lost 3-0.

Hope it doesn't happen again.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

There are those who remember Denmark Czech 2004. Expert said it would be a tight fight-Denmark lost 3-0.

Hope it doesn't happen again.

Markus

I reckon Denmark will just have enough Markus.

[mapuc]

They had the momentum on several occasions but nevertheless they gave it away. Up to the first goal they had the momentum..then they gave it to the Czechs. Denmark scored a second goal and kept the momentum until end of first half. Denmark didn't take control directly in start of second half.

The positive is-Denmark won and will meet England in the Semifinal.
(It would be a big surprise if Ukraine beat England).

Some of my Danish friends say Denmark will win the semifinal.
I say..it will be the end station for Denmark. Denmark does not have what it takes to win against England on their home soil.
(Miracle have happened before)

Markus

[Catfish]

Well this is getting ridiculous :D

Congratulations, England wins 4:0. Well deserved and in a good mood!

[Skybird]

Does anyone know whether Jim has already stopped exstatically crying? :)

[Catfish]

^ I can still hear him, in Hannover

[mapuc]

Now we have the four team in the semifinal.

Spain-Italy I think Italy will fix this.

England - Denmark-Sorry Denmark but England is a few pint better.

So it will be Italy-England in the final.

Markus

[Cyborg322]

good job boys, outstanding

[Jimbuna]

I reckon Denmark will just have enough Markus.

Never doubt old Buna, Markus :03:

[Jimbuna]

Does anyone know whether Jim has already stopped exstatically crying? :)

^ I can still hear him, in Hannover

LOL :)

Thoroughly enjoyed it and was pleasantly surprised seeing as the wife actually watched it also.

I'm going Italy (my original choice for tournament winner) to beat Spain and England to beat Denmark.

[Cyborg322]

England have what it takes to win this but I'm not making any predictions. If England get past Denmark I can see the game v Italy being brutal, they are pros at antagonizing opposition. I bet the game v Spain is set to be niggly too.

https://media.giphy.com/media/5wG5eC7mhrQvEcNZfa/giphy.gif

[mapuc]

I predict both Semifinal will be a tight fight. I don't think there will be scored many goal in these two matches. Italy will win with 2-1 or 3-1. England will win with 1-0 or 2-1.

There's room for surprises-In the end it could be Spain-Denmark in the final-I doubt it though.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

England have what it takes to win this but I'm not making any predictions. If England get past Denmark I can see the game v Italy being brutal, they are pros at antagonizing opposition. I bet the game v Spain is set to be niggly too.

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This clip from Fridays Italian game against Belgium adequately sums them up for most people me thinks :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsHL7I76mWk

[Cyborg322]

the fake injury from now on called the "Immobilize" should of got a yellow card This kind of thing makes me really lose respect for some players. I can think of another with the initial N, Guess who ?

[mapuc]

Football is fun and should be consider as fun

The image of the supporter, who has not been identified, went viral after Germany suffered a 2 - 0 defeat to the Three Lions in the second round of Euro 2020.

https://news.sky.com/story/euro-2020-32-000-raised-for-crying-german-fan-who-suffered-online-abuse-12348557

Markus

[Cyborg322]

I've seen the camera homing in on very young kids broken hearted in several games so far that in itself I find uncomfortable I wish they did not keep doing this

[Jimbuna]

I've seen the camera homing in on very young kids broken hearted in several games so far that in itself I find uncomfortable I wish they did not keep doing this

Absolutely shameful and unforgiveable.

[Moonlight]

I've seen the camera homing in on very young kids broken hearted in several games so far that in itself I find uncomfortable I wish they did not keep doing this

Absolutely shameful and unforgiveable.

It teaches the kids a life long lesson that not everything they want to happen will happen.
This is why we have all this WOKE bollocks now, parents bringing them up and telling them that they're special, when they actually realise later in life that they're not that special they'll turn into little WOKE monsters just like their parents are.
Get a bleeding grip for Christ's sake. :o

[MGR1]

Don't be so quick to blame "Wokeness", Moonlight, it's not a catch all diagnosis for all of society's ill's.:timeout:

In this case it's a factor of what is right, and that which is wrong. Grown adults, no doubt mostly male, picking on a young foreign girl they've never met via the facelessness of social media is morally reprehensible. Trust me, I've grown up in a secular society still heavily influenced by the morality of the Calvinist (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvinism) Presbyterianism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presbyterianism) of the Church of Scotland (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Scotland). I have a fairly cast iron sense of right and wrong and this is wrong on so many levels.

Mike.

[Moonlight]

I just don't get this bloody nonsense at all, when children are growing up they have fall outs with other kids, the parents fall out over it and end up knocking 7 bells out of each other, later, the kids who fell out are all playing together again, it's called growing up.
That's life gentlemen, when the kid has an ice cream and watches a bit of TV it will all be forgotten about, maybe that crying child will teach parents not to put their kids in that position in the first place.

[Jimbuna]

Thank feck someone on here didn't share a patrol vehicle with me in the city of Newcastle :nope:

[Von Due]

This clip from Fridays Italian game against Belgium adequately sums them up for most people me thinks :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsHL7I76mWk

Years of training
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ0D8W7OvTg

[mapuc]

Friends I'm sorry for having linked to this story.

Yes it hurts in my heart when I see a young kid cry whatever the reason may be. Yes children has to learn a thing or two about life-But this is not exactly a thing you learn a 7 years old kid.

What I tried to show was that there are grown-ups who is acting extremely childish on socialmedia like twitter when it comes to football or some other sports.

They don't understand that football isn't a question about life or death, but is something you watch or take part of in a good mood.

(Wondering if I should ask Jim to remover every post including my former post and this one and then go back to discuss football)

Markus

[Moonlight]

Wow, all that garbage you've posted tells me that you've got some emotionally repressed childhood issues yourself matey, go and see a counsellor before they consume you.

[Catfish]

^ SPAM :doh:
I really should know but to whom do i report such? Jim? Neal?

Although the above is a good answer to Moonlight, maybe if we can make him talk to bots and spare us :O:

[Jimbuna]

I sometimes think it wiser to simply ignore whenever possible.

Back to the footie.

Italy for the win over Spain tonight.

[mapuc]

Italy will win due to their defence, which should be better than the Spain.

There will be a lot of gnashing of teeth among the Danes tomorrow-Almost everyone believe Denmark will win against England. This they wouldn't and in despair the Danes will be gnashing their teeth.

Of course it will be very positive if the Danes won, but I have to look at it realistic.

Markus

[Moonlight]

I'm not so sure about that defence thing old boy, I've yet to see Spain get their strikers to hit top form yet, but, if they do perform well they could make that Italian defence look as average as the other teams are.

[mapuc]

I'm not so sure about that defence thing old boy, I've yet to see Spain get their strikers to hit top form yet, but, if they do perform well they could make that Italian defence look as average as the other teams are.

I would say England has the best defence-No one has scored against them...yet.

Who's going to win tonight I don't know I only hope it will a great match.

Edit
It was a football expert who in a Swedish article wrote something with
Both team are strong in their offensive, who's going to win will be who has the best defence and here Italy are the strongest among these two team
End edit


Markus

[Moonlight]

Dear me Markus, England beat some 2nd rate teams like Croatia and the Czech Rep and couldn't muster a win against Scotland who was one of the worst teams at Euro 21. Germany and Ukraine followed in the knockout rounds, Christ man, England haven't played a decent team as yet, lets hope Denmark perform better than they are on paper.

[mapuc]

^ Expect the worse and hope for the best outcome is my motto when it comes to sport and our football or ice hockey team.

I truly expect it will be the end station for the Danish team tomorrow evening.
I do hope they will win.

They will, whoever win, put up a fight. It wouldn't be an easy walk-over for England that's for sure.

Markus

[Cyborg322]

Dear me Markus, England beat some 2nd rate teams like Croatia and the Czech Rep and couldn't muster a win against Scotland who was one of the worst teams at Euro 21. Germany and Ukraine followed in the knockout rounds, Christ man, England haven't played a decent team as yet, lets hope Denmark perform better than they are on paper.

Croatia Germany 2nd rate ? Denmark on paper what ? these are some of the highest FIFA ranked countries in the world > England are 4th just below Brazil. To get this far you cannot be 2nd rate. If England win your going to say Denmark are 2nd rate if they lose your going say I told you so, You can't possibly be wrong

Have ever considered commenting on teams good points instead of all this negativity ?

[Skybird]

That FIFA list is based on a collection of historic performances, longer than just the past few years. But on the pitch it is about what a team can do now, not what its predecessors have done years ago. The German team since a couple of years indeed is not just second class, but even third class, I say. The two terrible tournaments they have played in a row now is expression of that, the worst tournament rankings they have ever "accieved" in all their history. They play tame. Lame. Ineffective. Uninspired. Uncourageous. Housebroken. By the book that tells them what moves are allowed and what not. World 2014 does not count anymore. Confed 2017 doe snto count anymore. 2018 counts. 2021 counts. The lost years since 2017 is what counts.

Germany currently does not belong to the top group of international football teams. Because a team is not just a collection of club star individuals. The whole is more than the sum of its individual parts.

Again, this can be seen since several years, in case of the Germans. The political mess at and in the DFB, the personnel corruption around the DFB heads and also Oliver Bierhoff, also weigh heavily here. The rot starts at the top. In principle the whole DFB must be dismantled and rebuild from scratch. What happens there since years, and recently and this year, and around Bierhoff, is only just embarassing now.

[mapuc]

I don't like this penalty thing. Let the team play until a team has scored and then give the other team 15 minutes to score. Or do as in Ice hockey first goal in et = win.

Markus

[Moonlight]

They tried that with the golden goals and the silver goals, I don't think it was as exciting as penalties though or FIFA would still be using them.
My favourite player Alvaro Morata was the hero and villain tonight, I expect the Spanish press will give him more negativity than I would ever do, to be fair to him, he was only on the pitch a short time and yet his contribution was enormous. :yep:

[mapuc]

They tried that with the golden goals and the silver goals, I don't think it was as exciting as penalties though or FIFA would still be using them.
My favourite player Alvaro Morata was the hero and villain tonight, I expect the Spanish press will give him more negativity than I would ever do, to be fair to him, he was only on the pitch a short time and yet his contribution was enormous. :yep:

Some football fan presented an idea during the world cup in 2018-In the finals the shall be a penalty to both team each have five shot.

I like that idea have this penalty before a quarterfinal, semifinal or the final.

Markus

[Cyborg322]

That FIFA list is based on a collection of historic performances, longer than just the past few years. But on the pitch it is about what a team can do now, not what its predecessors have done years ago. The German team since a couple of years indeed is not just second class, but even third class, I say. The two terrible tournaments they have played in a row now is expression of that, the worst tournament rankings they have ever "accieved" in all their history. They play tame. Lame. Ineffective. Uninspired. Uncourageous. Housebroken. By the book that tells them what moves are allowed and what not. World 2014 does not count anymore. Confed 2017 doe snto count anymore. 2018 counts. 2021 counts. The lost years since 2017 is what counts.

Germany currently does not belong to the top group of international football teams. Because a team is not just a collection of club star individuals. The whole is more than the sum of its individual parts.

Again, this can be seen since several years, in case of the Germans. The political mess at and in the DFB, the personnel corruption around the DFB heads and also Oliver Bierhoff, also weigh heavily here. The rot starts at the top. In principle the whole DFB must be dismantled and rebuild from scratch. What happens there since years, and recently and this year, and around Bierhoff, is only just embarassing now.

Yeah ok fair comment about FIFA rankings I was trying to use them as a kind of yardstick rather than my personal opinion of the teams. When it comes to History you cannot even go from game to game to predict outcomes and form never mind years. I was reacting to the non stop barrage of insults to the England team and belittling of other teams. I will make a note to try harder to explain this in future

As far as Germany is concerned I think they are a good team badly managed but they did well against Portugal I'm sure if third class is entirely fair

Simon

[Jimbuna]

Italy for the win over Spain tonight.

Looks like I'm still on track but that was a close result.

England for the win tonight by a two goal margin.

Being a Geordie myself and seeing as how Pickford was originally a Mackem I reckon it will be interesting to see if 'little arms' continues with his recent spate of clean sheets....I genuinely hope so.

[Cyborg322]

Looks like I'm still on track but that was a close result.

England for the win tonight by a two goal margin.

Being a Geordie myself and seeing as how Pickford was originally a Mackem I reckon it will be interesting to see if 'little arms' continues with his recent spate of clean sheets....I genuinely hope so.

Talking about Geordies I reckon this is the best England team since the days of Shearer and Gascoigne. Spain v Italy was close could of gone either way I thought Spain had the upper hand in the second half but only by a whisker. Their poor record with penalties was their undoing yet again.

I really don't know how the England Denmark game will go I don't expect it to be an easy match. England appear to have hit good form at the right time they should win . It's going to be a very tactical game and both teams are highly motivated. Good Luck England !

https://media.giphy.com/media/rre0d55QjtR2svCJMG/giphy.gif

[Jimbuna]

^ The key performance needed in the Denmark side will most likely be that of Schmeichel, especially when you take into consideration the fact he's played against most of the England squad and probably knows how they 'tick'

[mapuc]

Should I be afraid ?

What if Denmark win tonight would I be consider a good friends among my English friends or will they put me on the ignore list ?

Look at it realistic England will win with 2-0/3-1.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

I wouldn't worry about being put an anybody's ignore list, I'd be far more concerned about me putting you in the brig :o




:O:

[mapuc]

I wouldn't worry about being put an anybody's ignore list, I'd be far more concerned about me putting you in the brig :o




:O:

:timeout: :D :har:

Markus

[Jimbuna]

:):03:

[Cyborg322]

:):03:

that is pretty damn funny :up:

[mapuc]

Can tell you I'm going to watch a good movie on Netflix instead, sorry does not have the nerve to see the match.

I will know the result afterward in one way or other.

If i'm been brigged then I know why..if Jim is in a very good mood then I know why.

Markus

[Cyborg322]

Can tell you I'm going to watch a good movie on Netflix instead, sorry does not have the nerve to see the match.

I will know the result afterward in one way or other.

If i'm been brigged then I know why..if Jim is in a very good mood then I know why.

Markus

Forget Netflix do what I do and get some extra duty underpants and don't worry coz .................. Oh don't rely on Jim he will probably throw you in the brig anyway just for a laugh, he's evil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DRyRNMDM2g

[Catfish]

It really seemed the referee wanted to extend the game until England got the second goal :03:

[mapuc]

As expected Denmark lost the semifinal and as said by Jim it will be
England - Italy in the final.

I think England will make it.

Markus

[Moonlight]

You lost to a dubious penalty decision from an Olympic diving champion Markus. :O:

[mapuc]

You lost to a dubious penalty decision from an Olympic diving champion Markus. :O:

I read about it in the news after the Extra time.
The keeper toke the penalty, but Kane was fast and made goal on the return.

Markus

[Cyborg322]

I read about it in the news after the Extra time.
The keeper toke the penalty, but Kane was fast and made goal on the return.

Markus

Tough game Markus, Denmark can be proud of that performance. Some of the officials decisions were questionable both ways round. I could say more but its late goodnight God bless

Simon

[Skybird]

Usually I would be with Italy in this final, but England is so long overdue - its time they score a title. I will clap hands for England this weekend.


Cant comment on the match today, I did not watch. It seems there was some disputed decision!?

[Skybird]

Just watched a video of the "foul". That was no penalty. The ref screwed up. Was no video evidence checking done in this case? Its superobvious.

[Cyborg322]

Just watched a video of the "foul". That was no penalty. The ref screwed up. Was no video evidence checking done in this case? Its superobvious.

Super obvious is the key word in your comment, VAR did its check and under the rules the was no clear and obvious error by the referee but they should have recommended that the ref should of reviewed the video evidence. Very early in the game I was more worried about the refs decisions than the threat from the Danes who performed heroically. to give the ref the benefit of the doubt I've seen a short clip of the incident from a reverse view ( roughly the refs view) and it does look like Sterling was brought down but goal side at best was not so obvious to me

In my opinion VAR got this wrong you see a lot in the English premier league. As far as the whole game goes England was the better team the Danes were struggling to contain England and looked tired were running out of ideas played their subs too early and made it difficult for themselves.

As someone who is very much up for fair play I'm glad England won. On reflection they were the better team but the manner they won I'm not so happy with. This highlights the pitfalls with VAR and this was not the only example of how its flawed in this competition

Simon

[Skybird]

I said superobvious, and I include video anaylsis in it, because that is what they have implemented it. I did not watch the match and do not comment much on the ref, I saw a small video from the German TV broadcast, and I thought "hu?". But then they showed the same scene from the other side of the action, and that si what the video ref must have seen as well - and then it was super-dooper-obvious.

If they implement video eviodence for football matches and then such decisions ike that are the result, they can dismantle it again, because then it is useless. That penalty should not have been with video analysis on.

I read the Danish internet is erupting with fire and lava. I can understand them. The match was stolen from them.

Again, I do not comment on the teams performances and on the ref's full match performanc , I have not seen it. But this penalty was what decided the match. And it should not have been given, there is no excuse for it. Video should have corrected it. Thats what they implemented it for.

Total system failure, maximum damage possible.


I also read that the English did not play too well? And that in that shape the Italians just will have a light breakfast with them?

[Cyborg322]

I think my assessment is fair and balanced and the general consonance was England performed way better. On the day one of the marked differences was the goal keepers. Apart from the Penalty Schmeichel performed well Pickford was uncharacteristically awful with multiple string on unforced errors. There was also a short period of panic in the England squad mid field in particular but they did recover and show they can come from behind. I'm sure lessons will be learned from this and there will be no "light breakfasts"

Simon

I've stumbled across this video, this is more of less my sentiments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZCMh5Ju3YM

[Cyborg322]

On a lighter note England sure wins the competition for best ( cover) song. Italy will have to beat this spirit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxiRvOp887c

[Skybird]

I stick to it, the VAR should have intervened.


I just saw a brief interview with a Bundesliga referee who said that the ref on the pitch stood in a good position, was close enough to the action and obviously was convinced to make the right call, and he had reason to believe that, yes. But the video assistant referee should and must have intervened under any circumstances, he should have pressed the alarm button. No pardon for that he did not do it.



The German ref in that interview also said that according to FIFA rules every ref on the pitch can at any time in every match demand the video monitor all by himself. But this just as a sidenote, its not relevant here.


My quarrel is with the VAR. Total fail!

[HunterICX]

Just another example of why I stopped watching & caring for football years ago.



Overpaid drama actors on the field and the manipulative nature of FiFa officials that never would allow 100% fair play. Because what's the point of all those systems if they're don't plan to use it on the most critical of cases like Penalties and fouls.


Give me the Rugby World Cup any day over this joke of a sport.

[Cyborg322]

Just another example of why I stopped watching & caring for football years ago.



Overpaid drama actors on the field and the manipulative nature of FiFa officials that never would allow 100% fair play. Because what's the point of all those systems if they're don't plan to use it on the most critical of cases like Penalties and fouls.


Give me the Rugby World Cup any day over this joke of a sport.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjea3cD5RJA


Well they did use the system and the system failed

Almost every sport has controversial ref decisions,boxing tennis rugby is no exception. There is no infallible solutions its an imperfect system in an imperfect world but the VAR system is the hardest to swallow the incident with Italian striker Immobile was far more blatantly obvious how could both the ref or the VAR miss that, Its a yellow card offence. If referees don't penalise fake dives and injuries more its not going to stop

[Jimbuna]

A well contested game that England shaded by the smallest of margins.

Great and valid comments above chaps with few if any I could disagree with.

My brief summary: Pickford (Englands real achilles heel) put in a performance reminiscent of many of his performances for his club in the Premier League, Schmeichel easily outperforming him.

Can't say much about VAR because I despise it, one day sun next day rain. Bring back good old fashioned human error like we had for many years prior. Problem being, the match officials aren't of good enough quality these days to sort out the theatrical cheats.

The final against Italy will be an even harder test than this but whilst I obviously want my country to win I am sticking with my original pick for the tournament (Italy)

My two biggest lowlights are the idiots who booed during the playing of the Danish national anthem and the even bigger idiot who shone a laser in Schmeichel's face as the penalty was taken.

The UEFA disciplinary committee are investigating both matters and whilst I can't see England being thrown out of the competition I envisage a heavy financial penalty coming.

Whatever the punishment, the fans involved are solely responsible.

[Moonlight]

Aye, it was a mistake for the VAR official not to get involved, but that's all it was, a genuine mistake, it was a penalty from where the ref viewed it from but from other angles it was not so clear cut, what's done is done and the result will not be changed however vocal the outcry is. :o

[mapuc]

I have to refrain from my last comment.

Seen some clips from yesterdays semifinal.

The only way England won was because of an own goal by Simon Kjær end a dubious penalty.

So I wonder if England has what it takes to win the trophy ?

I doubt it.

The free kick goal was a real beauty.

Markus

[Moonlight]

England are overrated and extremely boring to watch, I gave them fifteen minutes once in this tourney and then I turned it off. If Sterling is an Olympic diving champion then these Italians are Galactic champions, we could have a 3-3 draw with these two teams and the goals might all have been scored by penalties. :haha:

[Jimbuna]

I have to refrain from my last comment.

Seen some clips from yesterdays semifinal.

The only way England won was because of an own goal by Simon Kjær end a dubious penalty.

So I wonder if England has what it takes to win the trophy ?

I doubt it.

The free kick goal was a real beauty.

Markus

One problem being Markus there are many who viewed the game who are adamant that it wasn't a free kick.

[mapuc]

^ I only saw the free kick and the goal.

Furthermore some Dane(s) have started a signature collection they want UEFA to give Denmark a rematch

HA HA forget it will never happen. It's understanderble the Danes are frustrated

Markus