[REL/WIP] US Battleflags/Conning Tower Emblems [Archive]

vickers03

05-07-21, 08:03 AM

this mod adds conning tower emblems with killflags and wardroom battleflags (fleetboat interior) which can be easily activated with jsgme.
the first set includes all historic emblems and battleflags for the
Narwhal and S-Class.
to activate look up your boat name/number and copy the corresponding folder into your MODS folder and activate.
same with the killflags.

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=5868

works with any mods and doesn't affect your sub skin.

*update 7.7.21*
- next set GATO added (20)

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads/sh4img@2021-05-06_12.36.25_921_9fk.jpg

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads/sh4img@2021-05-07_13.01.50_644_154.jpg

propbeanie

05-07-21, 09:10 AM

Oh my gosh! You beat me to it! lol :arrgh!: - excellent! Bravo! More more more - where's my bic lighter? We need an encore!!! :salute:

Captain Dave

05-07-21, 10:09 AM

Will these be from the old BattleFlags US website?
https://web.archive.org/web/20161119142312/http://battleflags.us/submarines/index.php

https://web.archive.org/web/20161119203032/http://battleflags.us/submarines/Balao/

vickers03

05-07-21, 03:51 PM

Will these be from the old BattleFlags US website?
https://web.archive.org/web/20161119...ines/index.php (https://web.archive.org/web/20161119142312/http://battleflags.us/submarines/index.php)

https://web.archive.org/web/20161119...marines/Balao/ (https://web.archive.org/web/20161119203032/http://battleflags.us/submarines/Balao/)

are they still available somewhere? i would need to convert them
but this would make it much easier!

fitzcarraldo

05-07-21, 06:22 PM

Many thanks! Pig Boats deserves it! :Kaleun_Applaud:

Fitzcarraldo :Kaleun_Salute:

Captain Dave

05-08-21, 10:17 AM

PM sent.

vickers03

05-11-21, 02:49 PM

update 11.5.21
- Porpoise, Salmon Class added

flaminus

05-15-21, 07:58 AM

Fantastic mod! Really improving of the immersion and gameplay!:Kaleun_Salute:

I suggest that the kill marks should be presented only one side on conning tower.:hmmm:

vickers03

05-15-21, 11:59 AM

I suggest that the kill marks should be presented only one side on conning tower.
ah ok, would be more realistic then.

propbeanie

05-15-21, 12:05 PM

Uh... port or starboard? Captain's discretioin? Naval regs?

Mad Mardigan

05-15-21, 03:21 PM

Ahoy, all.. :Kaleun_Cheers:

Did a bit of digging & came across this bit of info:

The origin of the submarine battle flag in World War II is a matter of some speculation, because before 1942, U.S. submarines did not own or display them. During late 1942 or early 1943, however, it became customary for a broom to be tied to the shears of a submarine returning from a successful patrol, indicating that it had made a "clean sweep" or sunk everything possible. In 1944, pennants were added to the brooms to indicate the number of kills. A Japanese flag denoted each ship sunk, with a solid orange circle on a white background for merchant ships and a rising sun for warships. Occasionally, these flags were also painted on the conning tower. This spontaneous and informal practice soon evolved into the creation of larger, more elaborate pennants, which included the submarine's particular insignia, often borrowed from a crewmember's "Submarine Jacket." This emblem was sewn into the pennant, along with symbols denoting additional kills and distinctive accomplishments, as sort of a "living history" of the sub's career. During 1944, Disney Studios, already involved in designing military insignia for both the United States and its allies (as these two websites show: www.atissuejournal.com/2010/08/10/wwii-military-logos-by-disney/ and www.atissuejournal.com/2010/08/10/wwii-military-logos-by-disney/ ), also designed submarine insignia. In all, the studio designed more than 30 fish insignia, which were assigned to submarines.

From the site I gleaned this info from.. 1 of the pic's, as best as I can tell.. it looks to have the battle flag & subsequent ship's sunk (battle kill's) emblazoned on the port side of the tower.

Of course, that is just 1 pic I found.. ( found here: http://www.dutchsubmarines.com/boats/images/submarines/uss_cod_bridge_small.jpg ) & is not entirely indicative of that locality, as being the agreed upon area for them to be displayed with all subs. It could well be, that that area was where that particular sub's Capt. & crew chose to display theirs... :yep:

M. M.

:Kaleun_Salute:

post edit :

For those that may want to read up on that, themselves, that info, can be found here:

https://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/us%5Env~ss.html

flaminus

05-15-21, 10:19 PM

The Swordfish's (SS-193) crew pose with the boat's battleflag of 27 sinkings, 1944.(http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08193.htm)
https://i.postimg.cc/X7DVM92D/0819328.jpg

Conning tower shot of the Flying Fish (SS-229), in Pearl Harbor, most likely mid to late July of 1945. Her Ships emblem is resting on the deck leaning against the conning tower.(http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08229.htm)
https://i.postimg.cc/Gm8bb9V3/0822917.jpg

Kill tags on port board as historical photo shows. TMO mod also placed a plane for kill makrs on port side.

vickers03

05-17-21, 10:28 AM

update 17.5.21
- Sargo, Tambor Class added
- killflags now on port side only

flaminus

05-18-21, 11:58 PM

Cool :up:
Looking forward to next update(too many gato :D)

Btw, the positons of salmon/sargo kill flag had better to be moved downwards a little, to avoid the navigation lights.
https://i.postimg.cc/63fjGFhV/sk.jpg

Anthor issue:
FotRSU uses "conning_gato_02" instead of "conning_tambor_02" in "UnitParts7Tambor.upc" file, so flags&kills will not be effective for those tambor subs with medwar conning tower. However, if we edit the "UnitParts7Tambor.upc" to restore the conning_tambor_02, it will cause texture problem.(using your 4k skin mod as well). Maybe the "NSS_TamborTower_O01~04.dds" files have some problem.
https://i.postimg.cc/g2q1hMHK/tambor02.png

vickers03

05-19-21, 01:31 AM

However, if we edit the "UnitParts7Tambor.upc" to restore the conning_tambor_02, it will cause texture problem.(using your 4k skin mod as well). Maybe the "NSS_TamborTower_O01~04.dds" files have some problem.
did you check to edit the texture path too:

ExternalLinkName3D= data/objects/Conning_Gato_02
HullTextureNameOverride=data/Submarine/NSS_Tambor/NSS_Tambor_T01.tga
HullLightmapTextureNameOverride=data/Submarine/NSS_Tambor/NSS_Tambor_O01.tga

flaminus

05-19-21, 01:59 AM

these textures refer to "hull", not conning tower. no need to edit.

later I use conning tower texture files from stock game to overwrite current ones, then both flags and tower are properly displyed.

if you overwrite all of the tambor tower files with upscaled stock ones in 4k skin mod, it can be fixed.

vickers03

05-19-21, 06:52 AM

if you overwrite all of the tambor tower files with upscaled stock ones in 4k skin mod, it can be fixed. all fixed in the 4k mod now, thanks for pointing out.
they only had the lightmap for Tambor Conning 2 wrong in FOTRSU 1.46
maybe thats the reason they switched to the Gato tower:hmmm:

flaminus

05-19-21, 07:16 AM

they only had the lightmap for Tambor Conning 2 wrong in FOTRSU 1.46
maybe thats the reason they switched to the Gato tower:hmmm:
Yes that's what I'm thinking about.

Thanks for the update.
:Kaleun_Cheers::Kaleun_Salute:

propbeanie

05-19-21, 08:47 AM

Be aware that we have been attempting to use the correct conns on all of the boats. It is not understood why the files were the way they were, and it wasn't until a few months ago when we went to put proper gear on several of the boats (the Tambor is not the only one using the Gato_02 conn) that the swap was discovered. This was further compounded with the Salmon Sargo combo using different conns, as found by flaminus (https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2744474#post2744474). There are a few issues with that conn also with the occlusion, but not nearly as visible. It had already been discovered prreviously that the TamborTower 02 occlusion maps were definitely "off" in FotRSU, almost like they had been shrunk - but to serve what purpose? We are currently testing all the changes, and we'll have to send vickers03 a preview of the next release because this will affect most all of his mods. There are massive changes to the Tench and another sub, which might be difficult to deal with. :salute:

fitzcarraldo

05-19-21, 08:48 AM

update 17.5.21
- Sargo, Tambor Class added
- killflags now on port side only

Many thanks!

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

Arlo

05-19-21, 03:42 PM

Did a lil battle flag research on the interwebs (and we know how accurate and trustworthy that is).

Battle flags were often changed/updated (of course, since the record can change between patrols).

My collection, so far:

https://i.imgur.com/xGkSSKK.png
USS Aspro 309

https://i.imgur.com/NX5BUf9.png
USS Atule 403

https://i.imgur.com/B8wqULJ.png
USS Balao 285

https://i.imgur.com/5AP0wmL.png
USS Bang 385

https://i.imgur.com/Znf51ib.png
USS Barb 220

https://i.imgur.com/ML4nY6o.png
USS Baya 318

https://i.imgur.com/IJ6Hef1.png
USS Bergall 320

https://i.imgur.com/Hv4A0NA.png
USS Besugo 321

https://i.imgur.com/fvfEK73.png
USS Blackfin 322

https://i.imgur.com/eNZL0Yh.png
USS Blenny 324

https://i.imgur.com/OvAwDmf.png
USS Bluegill 242

https://i.imgur.com/vligBFQ.png
USS Bowfin 287

https://i.imgur.com/ZuWh05z.png
USS Bream 243

https://i.imgur.com/wGfdf38.png
USS Cabrilla 288

https://i.imgur.com/wL4THvu.png
USS Cero 225

https://i.imgur.com/qmiti7J.png
USS Cobia 245

https://i.imgur.com/cll6GhE.png
USS Cod 234

https://i.imgur.com/SPznJEz.png
USS Croaker 246

https://i.imgur.com/EL9EObm.png
USS Drum 228

https://i.imgur.com/QdNBcAg.png
USS Finback 230

https://i.imgur.com/UWfYPIK.png
USS Flasher 249

https://i.imgur.com/0Q9XLT3.png
USS Flying Fish 229

https://i.imgur.com/aedxKDS.png
USS Grouper 214

https://i.imgur.com/RQ0tO9r.png
USS Growler 215

https://i.imgur.com/p9GcK0Q.png
USS Gunnel 253

https://i.imgur.com/pV1sSXJ.png
USS Haddock 231

https://i.imgur.com/kszxSka.png
USS Hake 256

https://i.imgur.com/bCvoE6x.png
USS Hammerhead 364

https://i.imgur.com/C6YXeG9.png
USS Harder 257

https://i.imgur.com/Q25t1TB.png
USS Icefish 367

Arlo

05-19-21, 03:44 PM

https://i.imgur.com/28BckfA.png
USS Jack 259

https://i.imgur.com/PKb9wsD.png
USS Pampanito 383

https://i.imgur.com/KulRYrM.png
USS Pargo 264

https://i.imgur.com/0eWhnqQ.png
USS Permit 178

https://i.imgur.com/xu4WRZy.png
USS Peto 265

https://i.imgur.com/Bdgyfjy.png
USS Picuda 382

https://i.imgur.com/dj56Byk.png
USS Pintado 387

https://i.imgur.com/b6NWUxp.png
USS Pogy 266

https://i.imgur.com/KdVJhEc.png
USS Puffer 268

https://i.imgur.com/4dOF36e.png
USS Queenfish 393

https://i.imgur.com/ERhuIxv.png
USS Rasher 269

https://i.imgur.com/pV8K0FO.png
USS Ray 271

https://i.imgur.com/THlM9qY.png
USS Razorback 394

https://i.imgur.com/8NQEtPR.png
USS Redfish 395

https://i.imgur.com/Mlm8AAl.png
USS Rock 274

https://i.imgur.com/dlZGo3D.png
USS Ronquil 396

https://i.imgur.com/5zncm70.png
USS Sawfish 276

https://i.imgur.com/B4ZP7Dp.png
USS Scabbardfish 397

https://i.imgur.com/XXCovT1.png
USS Sculpin 191

https://i.imgur.com/QyXGS5Q.png
USS Seacat 399

https://i.imgur.com/5elA92C.png
USS Seadog 401

https://i.imgur.com/kBzNh93.png
USS Seafox 402

https://i.imgur.com/AX0tEoC.png
USS Sea Lion 315

https://i.imgur.com/bRqUqOB.png
USS Sea Poacher 406

https://i.imgur.com/u6YCuJT.png
USS Sea Robin 407

https://i.imgur.com/BtI2okT.png
USS Segundo 398

https://i.imgur.com/3UXubjl.png
USS Sennet 408

https://i.imgur.com/njuHPwT.png
USS Skate 305

https://i.imgur.com/uC5FV3i.png
USS Skipjack 184

https://i.imgur.com/zE9yUv7.png
USS Snook 279

Arlo

05-19-21, 03:45 PM

https://i.imgur.com/ROATw3Z.png
USS Spadefish 411

https://i.imgur.com/zvQqadx.png
USS Spot 413

https://i.imgur.com/2pOnUH6.png
USS Swordfish 193

vickers03

05-19-21, 04:13 PM

Did a lil battle flag research on the interwebs (and we know how accurate and trustworthy that is).

Battle flags were often changed/updated (of course, since the record can change between patrols).

My collection, so far:

thanks Arlo! awesome collection. i'm trying to recreate the look of
the well known battleflags and this helps alot!:up:

Arlo

05-19-21, 04:56 PM

thanks Arlo! awesome collection. i'm trying to recreate the look of
the well known battleflags and this helps alot!:up:

You're more than welcome, sir. Researching one thing helps to make one more curious about others.

Found another:

https://secureservercdn.net/45.40.145.151/lvp.132.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Trepang-Battle-Flag-2006.064.001.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Trepang_(SS-412)

Arlo

05-19-21, 05:08 PM

Wahoo's 'pirate flag.' I love both the simplicity and ingenuity.

https://i.imgur.com/qRoDVwx.png

vickers03

05-20-21, 06:46 AM

update 20.5.21
- Gar Class added
- fixed some killflags going through nav lights

Arlo

05-20-21, 09:09 AM

update 20.5.21
- Gar Class added
- fixed some killflags going through nav lights

Sounds great. I wish I had your talent and patience. :Kaleun_Salute:

Arlo

05-20-21, 09:14 AM

https://franksfisherman.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/USS-Sailfish-L_clipped_rev_1-300x300.jpeg
USS Sailfish SS 192

vickers03

05-23-21, 06:17 PM

update 24.5.21
- Gato Class first set (13) added
- fixed some conning emblems much too bright

Arlo

05-23-21, 08:49 PM

Keep up the good work. :Kaleun_Salute::Kaleun_Cheers:

vickers03

05-31-21, 08:50 AM

update 31.5.21
- first set BALAO added (10)

fitzcarraldo

05-31-21, 10:29 AM

update 31.5.21
- first set BALAO added (10)

Many rhanks! Downloading....

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

Mad Mardigan

05-31-21, 12:19 PM

update 31.5.21
- first set BALAO added (10)

Just redownloaded the mod & unzipped it...

&... :timeout: am not seeing Balao, in the line up after unzipping, vickers03, ol' chap... :06: :o :doh: :hmmm:

What I am seeing is, the following line up listed in the folder:

Gar, Gato, Narwhal, Porpoise, S class,, Salmon, Sargo, Tambor & finally... ship sunk count battleflag. That's it... No Balao in the line up there.

if needed, can do up a snap shot of the folder & post it in reply, vickers03... just wanted to let ya know. Not upset, just a tad confused... is all. :yep:

vickers03

05-31-21, 01:46 PM

ohhh:k_confused:
file got renamed in mediafire, all ok now!

Mad Mardigan

05-31-21, 02:29 PM

ohhh:k_confused:
file got renamed in mediafire, all ok now!

Which 1... so I can go in & edit the appropriate folder, vickers03.? :hmmm:

post edit :
Never mind.. just dumped the previous download & all, then redownloaded the zip.... all good, thanks. :yep:

Arlo

05-31-21, 04:49 PM

fitzcarraldo

05-31-21, 05:13 PM

ohhh:k_confused:
file got renamed in mediafire, all ok now!

OK! Many thanks!

Requesting: Gato-class USS Silversides - SS-236 will be in the next update?

Best regards.

Fitzcarraldo :Kaleun_Salute:

fitzcarraldo

05-31-21, 06:06 PM

Well, this has caused me to once again uninstall TMO (my mainstay) and reload FOTRSU+interiors+whichever class boat I want my really cool markings on (and yes, I'm not being facetious - I think this is really cool). But ... FOTRSU takes so long to load up, I think I'll take a nap (my other mainstay). :) :salute:

Unfortunately it also ends up screwing up my shortcut start and even my open folder manually start every time and that'll take me a couple of days to sort. Erg. Yes, I deleted the SH4 folder before I started the MOD changeout. :(

With these heavy mods you need - ever - uninstall your SH4 and reinstall all. Another option is MultiSH4 and you will have two installations of SH4. But deactivate TMO with JSGME and reactivate FOTRSU is not recommended....JSGME is not perfect.

Also, I don't have more load time with FOTRSU than TMO. The museum, yes, is heavy in FOTRSU, but both TMO and FOTRSU load in similar times.

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

Arlo

05-31-21, 06:14 PM

With these heavy mods you need - ever - uninstall your SH4 and reinstall all. Another option is MultiSH4 and you will have two installations of SH4. But deactivate TMO with JSGME and reactivate FOTRSU is not recommended....JSGME is not perfect.

Also, I don't have more load time with FOTRSU than TMO. The museum, yes, is heavy in FOTRSU, but both TMO and FOTRSU load in similar times.

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

LOL. I just started a thread about this. You, unfortunately, confirm my suspicions ... but I guess that's a good thing in the long run. Thank you.:salute:

vickers03

06-01-21, 12:36 AM

Arlo, this mod works with all mods, even stock!
of course wardroom battleflag will only show up in fleetboat interior.

Arlo

06-01-21, 11:29 AM

Good to know, V. I still wanna see the interior prettiness. Thank you for it. :Kaleun_Salute:

vickers03

06-03-21, 12:30 PM

Kal_Maximus_U669

06-03-21, 01:25 PM

thank you for your excellent work vickers
you going to find me can be annoying .. but the victories marching .. warships .. i find a little too new .. the color too new .. the wardrooms are nice as well as the emblems too; Do you plan to create the aviation victories? Greetings and good luck in the projects ...:Kaleun_Cheers::Kaleun_Salute:

flaminus

06-03-21, 08:50 PM

update 3.6.21
- next set GATO (10) added
- some famous battleflags now work as they should

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads/growler_bf_vIx.jpg

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads/halibut_bf_s0h.jpg

This mod is really a "revolutionary" improvement of the gameplay!:Kaleun_Applaud::Kaleun_Salute:

Torpedo

06-04-21, 03:50 AM

Hi vickers03 you did an outstanding work!
I ask you three questions:
- killflags appear only at port side and not starboard? (the GATO_CONNING_emblem is on both sides)
- are sampans and tugsboats to be considered as sunken merchant ships to manually update killflags?
- the files "SHIP_SUNK ..." what are they and where can they be seen?
- Can the killflags be automatically updated in the future, I don't mean in the open sea, but at least when you return to the base?
My submarine is a Gatoclass - Gato and I don't see the number but I believe it is number 212 and the activated MOD is FOTRSU 1.46.

:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up: Torpedo

vickers03

06-04-21, 04:11 AM

I ask you three questions: FIVE:D

- killflags appear only at port side and not starboard? (the GATO_CONNING_emblem is on both sides) YES

- are sampans and tugsboats to be considered as sunken merchant ships to manually update killflags? YOUR DECISION

- the files "SHIP_SUNK ..." what are they and where can they be seen? KILLFLAGS

- Can the killflags be automatically updated in the future, I don't mean in the open sea, but at least when you return to the base? NO

My submarine is a Gatoclass - Gato and I don't see the number but I believe it is number 212 and the activated MOD is FOTRSU 1.46.
USS GATO SS-212 IS IN THE FOLDER

vickers03

06-04-21, 04:21 AM

your JSGME should look like this:

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads/battleflags%20jsgme_3RY.jpg

Torpedo

06-04-21, 04:49 AM

your JSGME should look like this:

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads/battleflags%20jsgme_3RY.jpg

Thanks vickers3!
everything is fine!

:Kaleun_Cheers: Torpedo

fitzcarraldo

06-04-21, 07:22 AM

update 3.6.21
- next set GATO (10) added
- some famous battleflags now work as they should

Many thanks! Awesome work. Silversides for me....:Kaleun_Applaud:

Best regards.

Fitzcarraldo :Kaleun_Salute:

Arlo

06-04-21, 10:19 AM

https://i.imgur.com/67yb392.png

I'm afraid I still need more detail. I don't know how to make the right example and left example rectify. I unzip the zips into the MOD folder, as usual, and I don't get what Torp gets when he activates his. What folder am I supposed to select? Am I supposed to be unzipping into that folder and not MODS?

vickers03

06-04-21, 01:28 PM

I'm afraid I still need more detail. I don't know how to make the right example and left example rectify. I unzip the zips into the MOD folder, as usual, and I don't get what Torp gets when he activates his. What folder am I supposed to select? Am I supposed to be unzipping into that folder and not MODS?
first unzip everything in a complete different folder (not MODS). then go into the (select_folder) and copy the one you need into your MODS folder so that it looks like in the pic.

Arlo

06-04-21, 02:56 PM

Ah, I'm learning. (He can be taught!)

https://i.imgur.com/EMnJlIS.png
So, I've got my BF displayed in the wardroom (happy dance).

https://i.imgur.com/pWci9hj.png
https://i.imgur.com/CRkur2d.png

Nothing displays on the port or starboard exterior. Guessing either I screwed that up, it's not yet available or historically this boat didn't display there.

Thank you, though. This is pretty damned cool. :)

[edit] P.S. did a little digging online. This is Tambor at her decommissioning:
https://blalock.lancedean.com/pics/ss198_usstambor.jpg

vickers03

06-04-21, 04:37 PM

Nothing displays on the port or starboard exterior. Guessing either I screwed that up, it's not yet available or historically this boat didn't display there.that's a FOTRSU problem (they are working on it), the Tambor uses a Gato tower so you can't see the emblem. This can be fixed by using my FOTRSU subskins in 4k mod https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=249390 or
Flaminus' patch for FOTRSU 1.46 https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=249492

Arlo

06-04-21, 06:42 PM

that's a FOTRSU problem (they are working on it), the Tambor uses a Gato tower so you can't see the emblem. This can be fixed by using my FOTRSU subskins in 4k mod https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=249390 or
Flaminus' patch for FOTRSU 1.46 https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=249492

If I kept up better when it comes to monitoring the threads I woulda known that. ;) As it is, I'm thrilled my crew has a battle flag to keep score on. Does wonders for morale (they'll have 4 more merchants to tack on if I don't score any more on this patrol.) :)

Arlo

06-05-21, 02:39 PM

https://i.imgur.com/UPSqv0d.png

Aug. 15, 1942 - Tambor returns to Brisbane from her 1st patrol. Sunk 1 destroyer, 6 merchants and 4 small craft (2 large Sampans, 1 fishing boat, 1 crab boat).

30,729 tons.

Awarded participation trophy.

https://i.imgur.com/u600nV8.png

https://i.imgur.com/UnYuJgF.png

I'm guessing because I'm playing at 80% game difficulty (no manual targeting and stabilize view not disabled).

I did take the liberty of modifying my battle flag screenshot (I added four smaller merchant flags for the small craft and a star denoting one patrol).

Yes, this does add an element for immersion. :D

Arlo

06-05-21, 04:53 PM

Decided to give Flaminus' addition a try. Starting Lcdr. T.E.Sting's career over. Drew the 'Terrible T.'

https://i.imgur.com/PeI00Wt.png

https://i.imgur.com/IL30E1l.png

https://i.imgur.com/mIFfyEH.png

This game just keeps getting better and better (thanks to the talented and dedicated members of this community). :up::D

vickers03

06-05-21, 04:57 PM

I did take the liberty of modifying by battle flag screenshot (I added four smaller merchant flags for the small craft and a star denoting one patrol).
nice! i think patrol stars should be in the mod:hmmm:

Bubblehead1980

06-05-21, 05:28 PM

Curious if there is one for the Drum SS -228 yet?

vickers03

06-13-21, 07:26 AM

*update 13.6.21*
- TENCH Class added
- TENCH Class optional sharkmouth added

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads/sh4_tench_sharkmouth_yZS.jpg

Mad Mardigan

06-13-21, 10:38 AM

*update 13.6.21*
- TENCH Class added
- TENCH Class optional sharkmouth added

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads/sh4_tench_sharkmouth_yZS.jpg

Nice... I know there is a USS Stingray one (done based off the sub in the movie, Down Periscope... *Balao class skin*) love the look of the sub skin... just not 100% crazy about the menu alterations, though. Not sure what would all need to be drop kicked out, leaving the mod still useable though... :o :oops: :timeout: :doh: or how to make sure that it was able to be used with any mod set, like... FotRS or TMO or RSRD... so... just gonna by pass that 1 in particular. :yep:

With the skin for the Tench, would love to use that Shark's mouth 1... but am not sure if all the bugs & kinks of the Tench have been fully ironed out yet, or not... :hmmm: :hmmm: :hmmm:

I know I saw something about there still being issues with it, but... BUT... I do admit that was a bit back, that I recall seeing that mentioned. haven't seen anything to indicate that the issues were worked on or fixed fully... if they can be. I know that some issues despite a modders best efforts, won't be able to be 100% fully resolved... all that can be done is to mitigate them, as best as can be. :yep:

M. M.

:Kaleun_Salute:

Kal_Maximus_U669

06-13-21, 05:36 PM

yes I fear an error of the Mad mardigan water spray has reasons :yep::yep: ... it seems:up:
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2021/24/1/1623623752-sh4img-2021-06-14-00-27-49-857.png :Kaleun_Salute:

propbeanie

06-14-21, 07:34 AM

Kal_Maximus_U669

06-14-21, 02:56 PM

The Tench is like the Balao, and not just in FotRSU, but anytime you get the boat too early, it trashes the game, due to so many aspects of the sub not being available, including an active home port, as WH4K found (I think it was him) because he got the boat in March instead of late August...

Yes I must admit that I cheated ... by starting a campaign to obtain the class tench in order to try this skin.
ah yes I had to think of the 4k skins which could pose problem I believe that to obtain this effect so much to seek .... it must be an integral part of the skin. Besides, the skin that I tried a while ago was built like this ... but I remember more exactly ... I would have to research
but it seems to me to have already seen this work .. is I even have to have it in my modding archives anyway I find it strange that it breaks the game ... thank you propbeanie for these details ... so my test is n not valid ... vickers won't yell at me :har: respect greetings to both of you :Kaleun_Cheers:

propbeanie

06-14-21, 05:01 PM

For a Tench test, just do a January 1945 or March 1945 start, and you should be able to see it just fine. The Balao would be a Fall of 1943, but I don't think I put one of those in... :hmmm: - or do a Single Mission after their effective dates...

Mad Mardigan

06-15-21, 05:44 PM

Ahoy, all... :Kaleun_Cheers:

After 2 patrols, of which on the 2nd was able to finally bag some targets.. My boat (USS Spearfish - SS-190) is able to proudly add & display her accomplishments...

http://snipboard.io/KOaHQg.jpg

4 merchie's & 3 warships (destroyer escorts, but warships none the less :03:).

Will need to see of grabbing the latest update for the mod... but will do so shortly.

Of note, any plans to round out the kill flags.. as I noticed there were some... gaps as to the number of kills, or would additionals need to be looked at for us users to fill in the gaps as with the Capt.'s quarters (editing them as was advised/recommended)with the interior mod, vickers03.. just asking... as I am curious to know what your thoughts are on that. :hmmm: :yep:

Am loving the ability to add a touch of color to our boats with the hard work you put in with this mod & want it known that I do appreciate it very much... :yep: :up: :salute:

Thanks for your efforts on this, vickers03.

M. M.

:Kaleun_Salute:

vickers03

06-16-21, 06:14 AM

Of note, any plans to round out the kill flags.. as I noticed there were some... gaps as to the number of kills, or would additionals need to be looked at for us users to fill in the gaps as with the Capt.'s quarters (editing them as was advised/recommended)with the interior mod, vickers03.. just asking... as I am curious to know what your thoughts are on that. :hmmm:
i'm not sure what you mean?

Kal_Maximus_U669

06-16-21, 09:22 AM

flaminus

06-16-21, 10:24 AM

Madmartigan & flaminius; did you test USS Torsk? ...:-j

it seems good for my Torsk~
https://i.postimg.cc/Jnjd7z1m/SH4-Img-2021-06-16-23-13.jpg

Kal_Maximus_U669

06-16-21, 10:36 AM

[QUOTE=flaminus;2752864]it seems good for my Torsk~

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2752421&postcount=62
everything else works except the noze splash
you don't have this type of problem? so tonight fresh install:damn::damn::damn::Kaleun_Sick:

Mad Mardigan

06-16-21, 10:49 AM

i'm not sure what you mean?

Ok, will see of making this part clearer.. even on rereading it Myself, I can see where it might lead to confusion & for that, My apologizes vickers03. :oops: :yep:

Ok, with the Capt.'s quarters name tag (found in the interior mod you also did), you gave info on how to go about editing that texture item... editing or rounding out this mod was where that was in reference to...

As it is, after 8 kill selection in the ships sunk folder, it jumps up from 8 to 12.. with no 9, 10, 11 in between those. Just as that is there between kills 8-12, it is also repeated yet again with a jump from 12-16 & again 16-20 & finally 20-24.

Of course, I do know & understand that, at some point in time, as a skipper, that there will be a transit from 1 sub, to another.

So, with not having 9, 10, 11, kill flags, as well as 13, 14, 15... 17, 18, 19... & finally 21, 22, 23.. would the use of the editing you outlined in the interior mod, be doable in the interim to fill in those missing kill count flags... or is it better to wait for you with a future update that includes them.? :hmmm:

(Am hoping for the latter as being done, cause I will admit... with doing the editing on the Capt.'s name plate in the interior mod... I got it done, but.. it wasn't easy...:yep: I am, Myself, more of a user of mods than a tinkerer of files & such.. think of Me as more of a... willing crash test dummy, if ya will.

If it helps advance & make things better, I'm more than happy to deal with goofs, errors, things going wrong, knowing that all of it is for a greater good... making something good, even better, vickers03 bud :up: :salute: :shucks:)

Hope this helps for better clarity on what I was asking here... :yep:

M. M.

:Kaleun_Salute:

flaminus

06-16-21, 10:55 AM

I thought you meant the emblem problem.

And yes i have the splash problem, too. it would be normal without shark mouth~

Mad Mardigan

06-16-21, 10:58 AM

hy ... propbeanie:Kaleun_Cheers: I tried everything you told me .. nothing worked with USS Torsk ... I can't see:ping::ping: .... with Redfin; Kraken; Camotri; no problem!!!:yep:
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2021/24/3/1623854161-images.jpg
The Redfin has a great career ... I know very little about the history of American submarines ... but it looks really fascinating to me once again I don't regret taking an interest in this kind of game.:subsim:
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2021/24/3/1623853117-uss-redfin.png
Camotri (this one does not seem realistic to me but gives it diversity)
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2021/24/3/1623853150-tench-camotri.png
Kraken
http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2021/24/3/1623853132-uss-kraken.png
Madmartigan & flaminius; did you test USS Torsk? ...:-j

Ahoy, Kal_Maximus_U669... :Kaleun_Cheers:

With My post about the Tench, that was with what I knew of as it pertained to older info... of which I admit, I haven't kept up with in regards to issues that were found with that sub. :yep:

Which was partly what I was trying to find out, was if those issues had been resolved, or mitigated to a minimum at least.

As It goes, I haven't really tried doing a career with a Tench, preferring instead to start from jump street & work My way up. :hmmm: Call Me, old fashioned , if you will, in starting from the bottom & clawing my way to the top.

I know I could well jump the line but... that pesky belief system kicks My aft quarters & says... what do you think you're doing, get back to the end of the line & progress like you know you should... :haha: :D

So, I haven't tested out the Torsk, sorry... :oops:

warmest regards, Kal_Maximus_U669 :Kaleun_Cheers:

M. M.

:Kaleun_Salute:

Kal_Maximus_U669

06-16-21, 11:02 AM

I thought you meant the emblem problem.

And yes i have the splash problem, too. it would be normal without shark mouth~

good very well that avoids the reinstall :D:D
I think that for this to work perfectly, the nose art must be .. complete skins ... without the victorys no emblems :yep::Kaleun_Salute:

Kal_Maximus_U669

06-16-21, 11:16 AM

Ahoy, Kal_Maximus_U669... :Kaleun_Cheers:

With My post about the Tench, that was with what I knew of as it pertained to older info... of which I admit, I haven't kept up with in regards to issues that were found with that sub. :yep:

Which was partly what I was trying to find out, was if those issues had been resolved, or mitigated to a minimum at least.

As It goes, I haven't really tried doing a career with a Tench, preferring instead to start from jump street & work My way up. :hmmm: Call Me, old fashioned , if you will, in starting from the bottom & clawing my way to the top.

I know I could well jump the line but... that pesky belief system kicks My aft quarters & says... what do you think you're doing, get back to the end of the line & progress like you know you should... :haha: :D

So, I haven't tested out the Torsk, sorry... :oops:

warmest regards, Kal_Maximus_U669 :Kaleun_Cheers:

M. M.

:Kaleun_Salute:

hy Mardigan:Kaleun_Cheers: you are right "there is no point in running, you have to start on time":en haut: ... we know the problem .. so he just has to solve it ... once again this skin must be built in one piece j I'm almost sure ... and these problems will be resolved !!!! Greetings & respect are the key words here. :Kaleun_Cheers::Kaleun_Cheers::Kaleun_Salute:

vickers03

06-16-21, 01:05 PM

As it is, after 8 kill selection in the ships sunk folder, it jumps up from 8 to 12.. with no 9, 10, 11 in between those. Just as that is there between kills 8-12, it is also repeated yet again with a jump from 12-16 & again 16-20 & finally 20-24.
Ahh thats what you mean lol, this was done on purpose because it was too much work doing
all these steps..i have so many projects now going so this will not be done in the near future, sorry.

propbeanie

06-16-21, 01:22 PM

... and we've got more work coming your way!!! lol :yeah:

Mad Mardigan

06-16-21, 01:30 PM

Ahh thats what you mean lol, this was done on purpose because it was too much work doing
all these steps..i have so many projects now going so this will not be done in the near future, sorry.

Ok, no worries... I can understand that, on having a lot of 'irons' in the fire, as it were... :yep:

So, bearing on that, would personal editing such as you outlined with the name plate in the interior mod, work here with regards to the kill flags, by chance... :hmmm:

I know it took a bit of doing to get the name plate done.. but, I am willing to give it a shot if that would work here with the kill flags. :shucks:

M. M.

:Kaleun_Salute: