On Health

[Skybird]

I want to bring to your attention a blog that I just discovered when researcing somehting on iodine, and I found some excellent research and writing beign done there. The author is a Dr. Neville Wilson who else is an unknown to me, but that may be different for those of you living in the US, I don'T know.

https://drnevillewilson.com/

So far I took a deep read into his articles on iodine and on fats, and I want to bring these two to your attention. They both supplement what i already had learned before form two books on these matters which I would reocmmend as well, since they provide a comfortable and understandable access to the matter that even non-professionals can easily follow.



On FATS:

https://drnevillewilson.com/2017/07/14/the-presidential-advisory-on-saturated-fats-good-or-bad-advice/

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40276480-superfuel

https://discover.grasslandbeef.com/blog/this-fat-is-actually-worse-than-trans-fats/

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00108-019-00687-x



On IODINE:

https://drnevillewilson.com/2018/10/18/iodine-the-health-benefits/

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6399174-iodine

https://www.optimox.com/iodine-research

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afZg2jzHuCs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih6Kpzu2E74


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1Y8xXJBwDw



On SALT:

https://drnevillewilson.com/2014/08/27/salt-intake-harmful-or-healthy/

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/30555572-the-salt-fix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f8VAK-K1A0

You can read online. You can order a book and then read. You can watch and listen to a youtube film. What you cannot is - escape! :O:



On NITRATE and NITRITE:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.deutschlandfunkkultur.de/nitrat-das-neue-brainfood.993.de.html?dram:article_id%3D154545



On CHOLESTEROL:

A very interesting, fascinating explanation why the consummation of saturated fats lead to higher levels of LDL. It might be not so much a sign of a health issue, but a normal adaptation mechanism.

https://sciencenorway.no/cholesterol...ystery/1810159 (https://sciencenorway.no/cholesterol-fat-heart-attacks/new-model-could-explain-old-cholesterol-mystery/1810159)

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://kochketo.de/cholesterin-und-keto/

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://foodpunk.de/alles-ueber-cholesterin/



On OBESITY & DIABETES:


https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2738778&postcount=17

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.aerzteblatt.de/archiv/201673/Gegen-Diabetes-und-Adipositas-Dein-Freund-der-Ketonkoerper


https://www.dietdoctor.com/does-fasting-burn-muscle




On SWEETENERS:

https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2738884&postcount=18

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.aerzteblatt.de/archiv/203793/Zuckerersatz-und-Insulinresistenz-Suessstoffe-als-Stoffwechselrisiko

https://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/36/9/2530




On FASTING and INTERMITTEND FASTING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9Aw0P7GjHE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nJgHBbEgsE

https://www.dietdoctor.com/does-fasting-burn-muscle



On OMEGA 3:

https://link.springer.com/article/10...08-019-00687-x (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00108-019-00687-x)



On IMMUNITY:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdLrpl8TzAw



On WHEAT and all that:


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.apotheken-umschau.de/krankheiten-symptome/magen-und-darmerkrankungen/ati-sensitivitaet-was-ist-das-748581.html

https://www.amazon.com/-/de/dp/B07YFS6PTV/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3 %95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=detlef+shed+an&qid=161 9260014&s=books&sr=1-1-fkmr0



INSULINE METABOLIC SYNDROME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpNU72dny2s



On SOY:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://paleolifestyle.de/gesundheit/soja-ungesund/

[Jimbuna]

As healthy a lifestyle you lead as you see matters, you've still as much chance as anyone else walking the streets of getting run over by a bad driver :03:

[Skybird]

So make it part of your prophylaxis to make that driver eat unhealthy as long as there still is time! Then he is too dead on the day he wanted to roll over you. :D

[Skybird]

Effects of dietary fats on blood lipids: a review of direct comparison trials

OpenHeart/British Medical Journal BMJ

https://openheart.bmj.com/content/5/2/e000871

[Commander Wallace]

As healthy a lifestyle you lead as you see matters, you've still as much chance as anyone else walking the streets of getting run over by a bad driver :03:


Aren't you just a ray of sunshine or in this case, a ray of sunstroke. :03:


* Hides under the bed *


Great article, Sky. Thanks for listing the items you use in your kitchen. We got an air fryer a few years ago and haven't fried anything since. Before that, we might have fried foods maybe once or twice a year.

[Skybird]

So did I, I love the taste of frying oil on chicken wings, calamaris and pommes frites. But no more do I eat it, since I fully understood the rattail of issues with transfats, Omega-6 and all that.

Fats is a topic that really everybody should get some basic education on, like sugar, glucose, corn syrups. The problem is that the mainstream information and paradigms on this and other food topics - are wrong. And have been so since decades and even a century.

Problem also is that even many doctors and medical practitioners and food advisors do not know it.

Not easy. You need luck to get even started, and then a good instinct when plotting your new course for the first steps. Its easy to go wrong.

Today I red that the kernel of avocados, of which many say it also can be eaten and is oh so healthy and a miracle food like the fruit meat, in fact is so poisonous that in Mexico they grate and pulverize it, mix it with cheese and fat and put it out on the street - as mouse and rat poison. Bon Appetit.

[3catcircus]

Si did I, I love the taste of frying opil on chicken nwings, calamaris and pommes frites. But no more do I eat it, since I fully understood the rattail of issues with transfats, Omega-6 and all that.

Fats is a topic that really everybody should get some basic education on, like sugar, glucose, corny syrups. The problem is that the maoinstream ifnormation and paradigms on this and other food topics - are wrong. And have been so since decades and even a century.

Problem also is that even many doctors and medical practitioners and food advisors do not know it.

Not easy. You need luck to get even started, and then a good instinct when plotting your new coarse for the first steps. Its easy to go wrong.

Today I red that the kernel of avocados, of which many say it also can be eaten and is oh so healthy and a miracle food like the fruit meat, in fact is so poisonous that in Mexico they grate and pulverize it, mix it with cheese and fat and put it out on the street - as mouse and rat poison. Bon Appetit.

Re: avocado pits. *Any* fruit with a pit has a strong chance of the pit to contain poisonous substances. Avo pits contain persin and cyanide-producing compounds. But eating one isn't going to harm you. Your have to eat a lot. Pets and livestock, on the other hand, are likely to become poisoned and die.

[Eichhörnchen]

I got the book "The Salt Fix" on Skybird's recommendation and have also read about the benefits of iodine in the diet

Currently our sugar-free diet is still going well; I sweeten my tea and coffee with 'stevia' plant extract and Moira is also able to use this to produce sugar-free cakes and other confections

My wrinkles haven't disappeared yet though :06:

[Skybird]

I got the book "The Salt Fix" on Skybird's recommendation and have also read about the benefits of iodine in the diet

Currently our sugar-free diet is still going well; I sweeten my tea and coffee with 'stevia' plant extract and Moira is also able to use this to produce sugar-free cakes and other confections


Two notes.

I found Stevia to be something that needs to get used to, it has a strong own taste, whose intensity varies with different quality grades of the product.

If you find that to be a concern, too, I would encourage you to also test Ethylit. Google it, it is uncritical regarding any health concerns, and has a more natural taste like sugar, but a "cooling" taste to it. Its sweetness is 65-70% that of sugar, but practically zero calories (othger sweeteners all have calories, just5 not as many as sugar).



Xylit also is a good option, thogh Ethylit imo is even better.



The sweetener that is most closely to sugar imo is Aspartam, but it is being debated if and to what degree it is a health hazard, or not. Just saying, in taste and sweetness Aspartam is the best and I cannot differentiate it form sugar. I do not use it, however.

Second, iodine, I hope you do not just ran into the adventure with closed eyes. As I have said several times, taking Selenium together with it, is a must. Capsules usually have 200-220mcgr, whcih is okay. Daily dose not higher than 400 mcgr, please.

Also you should have checked your tyroid status, to be sure there is no organic deformation already present that indicates you already have problems there. Finally, please start with small doses, and slowly increase them over time. Maybe I exaggerated it, but I went by these steps, each of them taking 7-10 days: 200mcgr, 400 mcgr, 600mcgr, 900 mcgr, 1.2 mg, 1.5 mg, 3 mg, 6 mg, 12 mg, 19 mg. I then jumped to 38 mg for three months exactly, and felt some detoxification issues that I adressed wiht high doses of B2, B3 and Q10 - problem solved wihtin 12 hours, as if a button was pushed. I am now on 25 mg.

Expect your TSH being raised, and T3 and T4 maybe beign chnaged, too, and it will stay that way for quite some time. That is good, but your doctor may frown his eye brows and tell you it isn't. He most likely will be wrong then, it must be like that. It mreans youir NIS symporters ar ebeeing build and your brain has noticed that ther eis more idoine in yoru system now, so it must bring the symporters - the logistic network that disrtibute id9one in your body, in your iorgans, in your cells - into a functional state - it has spend the past decades in hibernaiton and is most likely in a poor state. That the body does this is indicated by higher productiuon of TSH. It must be so! It means" green lights". As long as you do not suffer from any other health issues at least.

Find a health practitioner who a.) knwos the way of the Iodine :) , and b.) who can arrange an iodine loading test. Not a simple iodine urine test, that has practically no information value, but an iodine loading test, or mayb eoyu clal it exretion test, I am not certain. You take 50 mg, and then see over 24 hours how much idone the body gives away again: the more you pee out again, the better your iodine status already is. Here in Germany, these tests still are not known by most doctors and labs. In the US it is by now clinical standard, I read.

Don'T want to alarm you, really, just want to make sure that although iodine is quite safe to use you you treat it with respect, not with just blindly seeking adventure. :salute:

Did you like the salt book? I am really curious to learn what people think of it, when they got the complete picture. Its a history lesson on quite some broken, corrupted science, isn't it.

[Eichhörnchen]

^ No I have no plans to take iodine... I was simply commenting that I've read about it. I haven't read the salt book yet; my wife usually reads these kinds of books first and passes on to me the important points. I will let you know what we think

Thanks for the info about alternatives to Stevia... I am very interested in trying Ethylit, although I do rather enjoy the licorice-like taste of Stevia

We avoid all conventional sweeteners because of the false signals they send to your body, which as I recall mistakenly perceives them as sugar and retains fat in reaction

[Skybird]

That is often claimed, but afaik unproven. And calories not present in your stomach cannot get metabolized.
A more realistic concern with sweeteners is that they may do damage to your guts microbiome. Xylit, Erythrit and Stevia do not belong to these. Guts are today understood to form two thirds of our immune system. High system relevance, I would say!

[Jimbuna]

I got the book "The Salt Fix" on Skybird's recommendation and have also read about the benefits of iodine in the diet

Currently our sugar-free diet is still going well; I sweeten my tea and coffee with 'stevia' plant extract and Moira is also able to use this to produce sugar-free cakes and other confections

My wrinkles haven't disappeared yet though :06:

The only true test of how successful your dietry intake is will be if your hair grows back :haha:

:03:

[Eichhörnchen]

I gave that idea up years ago

[Skybird]

The Historical Background of the Iodine Project (2005)

https://www.optimox.com/iodine-study-8


The goal of this manuscript is to have, under the same cover, an update on the Iodine Project which started five years ago; an exposé of the Wolff-Chaikoff forgery; and contributions from two clinicians with a combined experience with 4,000 patients using Lugol tablets within the range recommended by pre-World War II physicians. This range of daily intake of iodine is called orthoiodosupplementation because it is the amount of iodine required for whole body sufficiency based on an iodine/iodide loading test recently developed by the author (1) (https://www.optimox.com/iodine-study-8#1).
During the first half of the 20th century, almost every U.S. physician used Lugol solution for iodine supplementation in his/her practice for both hypo- and hyperthyroidism (1) (https://www.optimox.com/iodine-study-8#1), and for many other medical conditions (2) (https://www.optimox.com/iodine-study-8#2). In the old pharmacopeias, Lugol solution was called Liquor Iodi Compositus. The minimum dose called minim, was one drop containing 6.25 mg of elemental iodine, with 40% iodine and 60% iodide as the potassium salt. The recommended daily intake for iodine supplementation was 2 to 6 minims (drops) containing 12.5 to 37.5 mg elemental iodine. During the second half of the 20th century, iodophobic misinformation disseminated progressively and deceitfully among the medical profession resulted in a decreased use of Lugol, with iodized salt becoming the standard for iodine supplementation (1) (https://www.optimox.com/iodine-study-8#1). The bioavailable iodide from iodized salt is only 10% and the daily amount of iodide absorbed from iodized salt is 200 to 500 times less than the amount of iodine/iodide previously recommended by U.S. physicians. After World War II, U.S. physicians were educated early in their medical career to believe that inorganic non-radioactive forms of iodine were toxic. Adverse reactions to radiographic contrast media and other iodine-containing drugs were blamed on iodine. If a patient told his/her physician that he/she could not tolerate seafood, the physician told him/her that he/she was allergic to iodine.
Also, here are a series of papers and studies on Iodine, years 2002-2008. They can be downloaded as free PDFs from their site, I only give a content list below.

I add this link also to the first post in this thread, under "Iodine".

https://www.optimox.com/iodine-research



Abraham, G.E., Flechas, J.D., Hakala, J.C., Optimum Levels of Iodine for Greatest Mental and Physical Health. The Original Internist, 9:5-20, 2002

Abraham, G.E., Flechas, J.D., Hakala, J.C., Orthoiodosupplementation: Iodine Sufficiency Of The Whole Human Body. The Original Internist, 9:30-41,2002

Abraham, G.E., Flechas, J.D., Hakala, J.C., Measurement Of Urinary Iodide Levels By Ion-Selective Electrode: Improved Sensitivity And Specificity By Chromatography On An Ion-Exchange Resin.The Original Internist, 11(4):19-32,2004

Abraham, G.E.,The Wolff-Chaikoff Effect: Crying Wolf? The Original Internist, 12(3):112-118,2005

Abraham, G.E., The safe and effective implementation of orthoiodosupplementation in medical practice. The Original Internist, 11:17-36, 2004

Abraham, G.E., The concept of orthoiodosupplementation and its clinical implications. The Original Internist, 11(2):29-38, 2004

Abraham, G.E., Serum inorganic iodide levels following ingestion of a tablet form of Lugol solution: Evidence for an enterohepatic circulation of iodine. The Original Internist, 11(3):112-118, 2005

Abraham, G.E., The historical background of the iodine project. The Original Internist, 12(2):57-66, 2005

Brownstein, D., Clinical experience with inorganic, non-radioactive iodine/iodide. The Original Internist, 12(3):105-108, 2005

Flechas, J.D., Orthoiodosupplementation in a primary care practice. The Original Internist, 12(2):89-96, 2005.

Abraham, G.E., Brownstein, D., Evidence that the administration of Vitamin C improves a defective cellular transport mechanism for iodine: A case report. The Original Internist, 12(3):125-130, 2005

Abraham, G.E., Brownstein, D., Validation of the orthoiodosupplementation program: A Rebuttal of Dr. Gaby’s Editorial on iodine. The Original Internist, 12(4): 184-194, 2005

Abraham, G.E., Brownstein, D., Flechas, J.D., The saliva/serum iodide ratio as an index of sodium/iodide symporter efficiency. The Original Internist, 12(4): 152-156, 2005.

Abraham, G.E, MD., The History of Iodine in Medicine Part I: From Discovery to Essentiality.The Original Internist, 13: 29-36, Spring 2006

Abraham, G.E.,The History of Iodine in Medicine Part II: The Search for and the Discovery of Thyroid Hormones The Original Internist, 13: 67-70, June 2006

Abraham, G.E.,The History of Iodine in Medicine Part III: Thyroid Fixation and Medical Iodophobia. The Original Internist, 13: 71-78, June 2006

Abraham, G.E, MD, Roxanne C. Handal, BS & John C. Hakala, RPhA Simplified Procedure for the Measurement of Urine Iodide Levels by the Ion-Selective Electrode Assay in a Clinical Setting The Original Internist, Vol 13, No. 3, 125-135, September 2006

Abraham, G.E.,The Combined Measurement of the Four Stable Halides by the Ion-Selective Electrode Procedure Following Their Chromatographic Separation on a Strong Anion Exchanger Resin: Clinical Applications The Original Internist, 171-195, December 2006

Abraham, G.E, MD, and David Brownstein, MD, A Simple Procedure Combining The Evaluation of Whole Body Sufficiency for Iodine with The Efficiency of the Body To Utilize Peripherall Iodide: The Triple Test The Original Internist, Vol. 14, No. 1, 17-23, March 2007

Abraham, G.E, MD, The bioavailability of iodine applied to the skin The Original Internist, Vol. 15, No. 2, pg. 77-79, June 2008

The Iodine/Iodide Loading Test

Abraham, G.E., MD, The Importance of Bioactive Silicates in Human Health
For downloading and reading, click the site link I provided above.

The group around Abraham (+), Brownstein and Flechas are the practical founders of the neo iodine movement amongst American health practitioners, and since over two decades form the spearhead of combining lab stuying and practical experience that is being called the Iodine Project. They base on several tens of thousands of anonymous patient data records now, from laboratories from across all of the US. In result they practically reconnect to the tradition of healing with Iodine as was common until the time around WWII.

The defamation of Iodine however began already in the mid- late 20s, when in 1926 pharmaceutical producer Herring released the first artificial Tyroxin drug and immediately began to aggressively advertize for it. Part of that campaign of course was also the defamation of the much cheaper and more logical alternative and rival, Iodine. After WWII, the Soviet Union and its allies continued to use Iodine in clinical use and were the first to restart research on it again, the Americans came second and the Europeans last. But the Sovjets science done on Iodine was leading. Since this could not be admitted openly in the West, Cold War and rivalling systems and all that, and since one could not just say "Its Sovjet success, so it must be bad success becauses its the Sovjets", one instead reinforced attempts to defame Iodine and to bagatellize it, and by this: rendering the Sovjet success useless.

Tyroxin drugs since those times and until today year after year belong to the three most-sold drugs categories worldwide, I read. Which of course has nothing to do with why Iodine get demonised and med students do not get told much about it at university... Heck, I got the impression the even get told that it is toxic! Absurd. All halogenes like Flourid, Bromide and Chloride are extremely aggressive cellular toxines - and we allow them to be used in water and added to flour, medical drugs and what else. The only non-toxic halogene is Iodine - and this one gets demonised!? Big Food and Big Pharma lobbyism, I tell you.

Do not be angry at your doctor, he is not the one guilty for faulty curriculae and has learned what they demanded him to learn and learned not what they withheld from him. In a way, he is a victim.

But maybe tell him about such things, and if then he refuses to learn what he missed earlier, you maybe do not argue but better start looking for a new doctor.

Thats what I did. The new however is not really that much more in the knowing on these things than the old one, so maybe I need to look again.

Its your health, doctors are humans, training is deficitary (necessarily), and industrial lobby interests additionally poison the medical branch. So retake responsibility for yourself and your health. You only have this one body. Do not just blindly trust somebody with a PhD.

Not even me, without my PhD. :D

Read. Learn. Teach yourself.

If your doc does not like that, flee from him. Doctors are advisors only, and they owe it to you to be right in most of the questions you raise to them, and to continue to learn new things all their career long. If you find they aren't, then you are dealing with no good doctor. Find another one then. You owe them no blind loyalty.

[Skybird]

On NITRATE and NITRITE


I stumbled over the topic of nitrate durign my latest researchges on ketongenic diat and the socalled Paleo food trend. It seems to be another myth that since some years gets busted: that it is oh so dangerous to our health and that we should avoid it. Personally, I have never cared much for it. BTW, our salvia includes plenty of nitrate - multiple times a smiuch as we eat per day even if we consuke large ammounts of nitrate-including food products, salted and processed meat, bacon and the likes.



The following is by Udo Pollmer, a German food chemist and book author on (mostly) food, he also runs an according institute. He is known for his laconic comments and black-humoured, witty writing style, and often takes uncomfortable, unorthodox positions on topics.




Nitrate - the new brain food. From environmental toxin to therapeutic

By Udo Pollmer



Green salad didn't seem to be one of the favorite dishes of our columnist and food chemist Udo Pollmer. But now Saul seems to have become Paul. Because recently this vegetable is apparently "healthy" for him too. But hear for yourself.

In winter, fresh vegetables have a rather bad reputation. Vegetables are healthy, everyone knows, but with greenhouse goods there are bad nitrate spinners: too little sun - too much fertilizer. Nitrate is also said to promote the formation of carcinogenic nitrosamines in the body. However, especially in winter, our immune system does not need artificial fertilizers but “protective vitamins” and “valuable minerals”. Every child learns that today.

And now everything should be very, very different: It is precisely this “bad” nitrate that is developing into a superstar in medicine: the environmental toxin quietly turned into a sought-after therapeutic agent. It has long been known that the body fights pathogens with nitrate or nitrite.

For example, the more nitrite there is in saliva, the less often tooth decay occurs. And the nitrite, our oral flora forms from the nitrate. Vitamin C cannot hold a candle to nitrite: As a lozenge, the vitamin even attacks the teeth and our immune system cannot do much with it either. Recently, the nitrate has even been said to prevent diseases such as stroke and dementia. The background: our body not only forms nitrite from nitrate but also from it the messenger substance nitric oxide. Nitric oxide dilates the blood vessels and thus promotes blood circulation. The amazing thing is that the nitric oxide in the brain works specifically where the blood flow decreases and the supply of oxygen suffers. That's why nitrate lowers the risk of stroke and prevents dementia.

This is the first time that this has been verified directly in humans. And under realistic conditions: The test subjects had to eat products that were particularly rich in nitrates. This finally gives us a reasonable indication of why a slightly lower blood pressure was observed time and again in vegetable eaters. As previously speculated, it is not the potassium that is responsible for this, but the nitrate. This would finally rehabilitate the lettuce from the greenhouse - and for the sake of fairness also the other winter vegetables with their high nitrate levels, i.e. those that we have always been warned about.

So did the environmentalists slaughter the wrong pig by fighting nitrate in drinking water? Not necessarily. Because there have always been studies that have found negative effects in drinking water contaminated with nitrates. But the context is completely different. A lot of nitrate in the water is a sign of overfertilization. In the case of natural manure, it is full of faecal germs. Of course, all kinds of microbes slip through with the manure, namely viruses - and the more manure is distributed in the landscape, the greater the risk.

It is different with artificial fertilizers: it supplies nitrate, but it does not spread viruses. We know from the workers in fertilizer plants that the artificial fertilizer apparently has a completely different effect than is commonly feared. Several studies have dealt with the health status and life expectancy or mortality of people who had to inhale and swallow the nitrate dusts every day in the fertilizer stores. Apparently that didn't hurt them, on the contrary, their life expectancy was even higher than that of the rest of the population. So far you just couldn't explain it. Now we finally know why. Contrary to previous assumptions, nitrate in our food is even beneficial to the health of adults - as long as it comes from a hygienic source.

Enjoy the meal!
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[Skybird]

On CHOLESTEROL:


A very interesting, fascinating explanation why the consummation of saturated fats lead to higher levels of LDL. It might be not so much a sign of a health issue, but a normal adaptation mechanism.

https://sciencenorway.no/cholesterol-fat-heart-attacks/new-model-could-explain-old-cholesterol-mystery/1810159

The understanding of fats and cholesterol has seen a revolution in the last decade or even slightly longer. Food and pharma lobby bitterly fight and argue against it, but it is quite clear by now that the old belief that saturated fats are bad and unsaturated fats are better, can no longer be supported.

The Norwegian ecothrophologist authoring the article behind the link above, is just a very new look at it (and she has beside her witty brain also the good looks of herself to offer...). We also need to understand that cholesterol gets transported by LDL and HDL, from liver to organs, and back. Certain fats like coconut fat include very high levels of saturated fat acids, (90-96%), and correlate with rises in LDL. However, there are LDLs with small and with big particle sizes. The problem are the small ones, since these can penetrate into the walls of blood vessels, if these are already fractured or rough, for any reason. Then the small particles can start to clot and form atherosclerosis, possibly (it depends on so many other facotrs, on the ability to counter oxydation, the presence of other molecules and vitamines and nutrients and amino acids and so much more). The message here is that LDL is not just LDL. While coconut oil can correlate with a rise in LDL, it nevertheless has a health benefit, because it raises the LDL mostly by big particled LDL, while reducing small particled LDL, which is the dangerous one. So while you have a higher total LDL, you may nevertheless enjoy a lower level in small particled LDL, which in the end is a net gain in health effect.




After coconut oil got celebrated, since some years the food industry tries to defame it again, instead wants to sell their seed oils with claimed healthy unsaturated fats and their toxic levels of inflammatory Omega 6 (sunflower oil has a O6 : O3 ratio of 125:1 !!!) from their monumental monocultural farms that bring so much wanted profits (if not for the farmers, then at least for the food industry...). Don't believe everything they try to tell you to scare you and fearmonger you!

There are studies that the increased consummation of saturatedf fats can even extend the life of the elderly people and protect them to some degree against strokes and cardiovascular diseases (CVD).

What should be avoided, are trans fats, seed oils and Omega-6 oils, as well as any oil that is especially prone to fast oxidation (linseed oil!). Eat freshly shreddered linseeds and nuts completely instead of using just their oil. The O6 may still be in the comolkete seed/nut - but also plenty of antioxidants mother nature put into the nut and seed that keep O6 under control and in balance. In oils, you usually miss these antioxidants. Also, avoid refined oils, ald every oil sold in clear plastic bottle (light and UV means constant ongoing oxydation). Avoid oils that get won by using heat, and in plenty of light. Keep heat and oxydation out of the equation of creating oil, whereever possible.

[Skybird]

On OBESITY & DIABETES:


When I went to school, leaving school in the mid-80s, there were no fat kids. Today there are many fat kids, and some already have adult onset diabetes. Tendency growing. Fast.

The obesity wave started rolling in the 80s. That was when we slowly realised that still recommending refined white sugar maybe is not so good an idea. We started to avoid sugar, slowly, and started to turn to artificial high-chem sweeteners. And we started to become obese.

Sugar was not the only thing that changed. When I grew up, at home we had three meals a day, and rarely only was I allowed to snack inbetween. Sweets got strictly controlled by my Mom. I knew it to be like this with the parents of other kids as well. It was common, it was how parent used to run their "regime". Today, we snack all day long. Additionally to the main meals of the day. And obesity has turned into a pandemic overrolling the industrialised world. We have breakfast, on the way to work we have a bonbon maybe, in the office somebody switches on the caffee machine and guess what - somebody puts some cookies on the table. In the meeting we maybe have a piece of cake, the woke eco friends have a banana or apple instead, and then comes lunch. After that, this or that person may join colleagues in the cafeteria and have a coffee, probably with a cookie or a chocolte bar as dessert. Afternoon shift, more coffee maybe, ad an occasional toffee. And at home, what do we do? Having supper. And to the TV we go (many of us do not excercise, lets be honest), and what is a good film without some sweets or candies, popcorn or potatoe flips?

We eat all day long.

Our reaction to that obesity wave in many cases is a very infantile one: we start to babble about self-esteem and being proud of our (ugly fat) body, and we invest much time into convincing others of how great it feels to have this (ugly fat) body, and , in the end, convince mostly ourselves how well we feel in our (ugly fat) body, so that we must not lift our lower backs from he couch and start with getting something done about our beautifully ugly fat body. The health consequences of this ugly fatness we nevertheless will and must suffer in the future - but we ignore them as long as we do not feel the pain: non-alcoholic fatty liver, liver inflammation, liver hepathitis, diabetes-amputation-blindness-death, CVD, silent inflammations, auto-immune deseases.

How could it be that all this overwhelms Western societies, when we get so "well advised" by nutrition societies and state authorities to avoid sugar, to eat frequently and at rest, vegetable 5, 6 or 7 times a day, fruits 3, 4, 5 times a day, a balanced diet with "healthy plant oil" and no smoking and no alcohol? Its been recommended since 40 years. And thats the 40 years when the obesity wave arrived and started to flatten society and financially overwhelm health systems with ugly fat bodies.

Is the good advise by nutrition societies really that good an advise? Well, to put it this way: I avoid such nutrition societies and their advice like the most lethal of pleagues. I cannot even just laugh about them anynmore - I am furious about them. Due to their eating advice, but also for other reasons having to do with supplements and how they demonise them and mistake absolutely minimum doses as above-optimum and almost dangerous doses. It oversteps the thin red line to physical assault, like recommending to eat rat poison would.

What is wrong with having 5 portions of fruits per day and 5-7 portions of vegetable per day? Well. You eat. And eat. And eat. And eat. And eat. And eat. And eat. And eat. And eat. And eat.

You eat all day long. You layaway yourself from fruit to vegetable, from vegetable to fruit (if you would do that). More realistically, you layaway yourself from snack to snack. Unhealthy snacks, filled with plenty of bad oils and fats, and sugar. You add limonades and corn syrup-enriched liquids.

And almost every time you put something into your mouth, your create an insuline spike.

Artificial sweeteners do not save you. They may not rise your blood glucose level, they may not add calories to your metabolism, but they nevertheless trigger an insuline production spike. Worse, this spike can be higher than that of a similiar amount of sugar! I did not know this until just days ago. I did not like learning this. I do not drink lemonades, but I thought I do a little good deed when not using sugar but sweetner in my coffee. Damn!

Insuline is a hormone whose purpose is to press fructose into the liver and into the fat cells. Whenever insuline gets produced, you build fat - in the liver with its limited storage capacity (reach that limit and the liver starts to form "symptoms"), and into the body's fat cells.

It is a myth that you become fat due to eating more calories than you "burn", it also is a myth that you can loose weight by exercising. There are even studies showing that it does not work this way.

The problem is - insuline. This is at the heart of the problem of obesity and diabetes. The more often you eat, the more insuline spikes you have over the day. The more often your fat depots get fed. The more your general insuline level must rise, due to rising insuline restistance: more and more insuline is needed to still get all that fructose pushed into your overloaded fat cells.

And here you have the reason why fat is not your enemy, but your friend, good fats that have no trans fats and that have small or minor levels of inflammatory Omega 6 in them: fat does not create insuline spikes. Not on a level worth to be mentioned at least. By eating fat, you offer your body the other fuel that it can burn: beside glucose, it can burn fat. The liver forms ketones from it. Ketones can feed your cells' energy cycles, especially your brain cells, and they can pass the blood brain barrier. Many cells in the brain and elsewhere even have the ability to take certain fats directly and build the ketones themselves, by passing the liver and not needing it, this for example is true with many brain cells.

"Food light" products, with reduced fat contents, work as good as sweeteners, therefore: not at all. Plus they are inferior in taste.

Proteins and carbohydrates trigger insuline spikes, fat does not. Now you know why many diets limit carbs ("low carb"). Full grain bread often has a higher glycaemic index than refined sugar! Not even connecting to the health issues that can be caused by wheat itself, it must be said that full grain diet probably is not a good idea at all, at least if you want to loose weight, or have a diabetes issue.

Another good method to reduce insuline production is - to not eat at all. Fasting. There is nothing wrong with it, its a natural state in our evolution. There are many ways how to do it, personally I have become a fan of intermittend fasting. I did it for 12 months three years ago, I lost 14 kilograms in six months, and kept that level easily for another 6 months. Alsmost 92 kg before, almost 76 kg after.

Nowadays, I have just two meals a day, a late breakfast and a later lunch with a warm meal. I only eat in the time window of 12am to 8pm, and every second or third or fourth day, depends on how I feel, I even skip the breakfast, and reduce the lunch to something with low calories not above around 600, its the only thing I care to make a reasonable calory estimation for - elsewise I think counting calories is total bollocks.

A recent blood test I needed to do in preparation for the anesthesia during a planned jaw surgery showed me unwelcomed high levels of blood glucose, low levels of HDL, and a slightly elevated level of GPT (which is an indicator for the liver health, often meaning there are inflammated cells in the liver). All this together with my weight development of the past months and last year indicated to me what I already suspected in decembre, due to my again reached weight of 92 kg back then: that I likely had a non-alcoholic fatty liver, and was and maybe still am in a state of so-called pre-diabetes.

Already in Decembre I had started with intermittend fasting again. I already was busy with studying vitamines and minerals due to corona and immune system and all that, as you have noticed :) , but since a few weeks, since that blood test, have dived into diet and low carb as well, combining low carb and intermittend fasting with elements of ketogen diet, especially I had - already before - replaced bad fats with good fats, and pushed fish and Omega-3 oil up on my charts. I try to teach my body to depend less on carbohydrates, and more on fats as a major fuel. And I am successful, I am at 81 kg (that is 11 kg in 3 months), still dropping constantly, it goes faster than three years ago when I fasted without low carb and keto.

If there is one message one should really understand about why we become obese despite doing as we are advised and using light food products and sweeteners, than it is this: obesity and diabetes are caused by dysbalances in the insuline metabolism. You do not become obese so much by what you eat, but when you eat. And "When" means: by eating too often and keeping your insuline level high all day long.

Antidot: Keeping insuline low, and avoid as many spikes as you can. Thats why fatty diet, low carb work, as does fasting. Combine the fatty diet (low insuline and switching to fat instead of glucose burning) with intermittend or full days fasting (reducing the number of opportunities over the day when insuline goes up) is your way to go.

The combining of intermittend fasting and elements of keto and low carb I experimented with and stumbled over all by myself, without having a full model of understanding, I imagined more or less a rough orientation (which turned out to have been right on target and being in congruency with theory I now read), but a few days ago I finally also found a very competent author and expert who finally also gave me the full deal on theory and explanation that my intellectual mindset also craves for. I want to recommend him to you if you feel interested in these topics for any reason. His name is Jason Fung, he is a Canadian nephrologist who got interested into these topics twenty years ago and today usually gets announced as one of the world's leading experts on treating obesity and diabetes. Form yourself an impression of him, I provide links at the bottom for starters. There are several books by him, I recommend his two bestsellers "The Obesity Code" and "The Diabetes Code".

Read 2 minutes, his best advise:
https://www.dietdoctor.com/my-single-best-weight-loss-tip

Get an impression on the man in person:
https://www.dietdoctor.com/how-to-maximize-fat-burning

^ The video, lasting 4 minutes., Four minutes that have it all in them.

I like the man. He is smart, I find him sympathetic, and after two books that I consummed in two rushed readings I say he obviously knows his stuff inside out. Here is a doctor whom I trust!

I will not avoid forever carbs, wheat, pasta. I baked my bread over 25 years myself, i would not have done that if I would not LOVE the taste and smell of fresh, good bread. I know a thing or two about how to do a real good pizza dough (like none I can get in any restaurant here in my hometown). I LOVE spaghetti with two or three different sauces I use to prepare for them. I love boiled potatoe with herring in dill cream, and ibnly butter and salt on the potatoes. But I will for exmaple avoid noodles, potatoes as part of a lunch that has other main inredinets: give me the fish, the meat, the fat, the vegetable, the sauce - but keep rice, noodles, potatoes.

But my short time goal is to drop below 80kg, my medium time goal is to get into the med-70 range, and my long time goal is to get near or right on the mark of 70. Thats why I currently eat more fat than before, but not as much as I would like to: the fat I eat is the fat my body must not burn from his fat deposits (take this as an indication that "eat fatty!" does not mean to blindly consume fat in absurd quantities). Thats why I avoid carbs currently. Thats why I drink no alcohol, no carb-including alcoho-free white beer, no pasta. Its not forever, but for some more months. Once I reached my target weight, I will eat carbs again, but at limited amounts and with time pauses between them, days. I will eat even more fat. I will allow myself an occasional Bailey's again. Life is too short to pass on all the good things always and forever.

Because last but not least: EATING SHOULD BE PLEASURABLE AND FUN AND SHOULD GIVE SATISFACTION IN TASTE AND SMELL!

This together with the massively improved nutrition status that i started to implement last year, results in many health benefits, loss of minor physical symptoms, and greater mental and emotional stability of mine. I feel so good like I have not since - well, since as long as I can remember. Very long time, I mean.

I had to change my doc, however, the old one was too unwilling to learn new, and strictly limited himself to what he learned at university long time ago, and what the DEG, the German Nutrition Society, says. The new one is not more educated, but a bit more open to listen to new stuff. Thats okay, I see doctors not as people making decisions in my place, but only as advisors. And I must not accept every advice if it does not make sense to me or cannot be reasonably explained.

Listen to your doctor - but never blindly trust one. They too are just humans, you know.

[Skybird]

Addendum: On SWEETENERS:


In the post before I mentioned that sweeteners were found to nevertheless trigger an insuline reaction although they may do not rise blood sugar/glucose.

Comparable claims I have red many times before, and it never made sense to me. It still does not, and thats why I researched it today after having red in a believable source recently that sweeteners can trigger an insuline spike up to 20% higher than normal sugar. I googled for it. Two hours long. And I did not find a convincing evidence for this claim. If there is evidence, then it still waits for me somewhere out there. Where is Mulder when you need him.

This is a confusing situation, and I think its worthy and necessary to shed some light on the situation of the debate. I do not like the picture I see.

What angers me is that when you look for biochemical arguments against sweeteners, you literally always sooner rather than later get confronted with criticism based on not chemical, physiological facts, but psychological and ecological arguments. They all get systematically mixed into just one argument, without any differentation: that sweetners are bad, should not be used, and implying that enjoying sweet taste is a sin in general, we better do not use neither sugar nor sweeteners. I am so sick and tired of this pleasure-hostile reeducation! While the changing of your diet changes your taste preferences a bit over time (due to TASTE, not due to feeling a duty of any kind), and consumming salt can reduce your craving for sweetness for sure on the brain-neurological level, and your appetite chnages as well (which is hormone-controlled and even can set up its own, hormone-dependent time tables: you feel an appetite because it is that time of the day and although you even are not hungry, because that hormone gets produced when the timer beeps), lets face it: a basic appetite for sweetness remains in many of us, always, if not in form of "sweetness intense", then at least as an additional ingredient helping to make something else you drink or eat more pleasurable a taste experience: coffee for example, tea. I love coffee - but never black, black it is an ineditable, bitter, suspicious brew to me, It makes me almost vomitting that bad it is, I add milk and some mild sweetnes to actually change it into somethign extremely! enjoyable. For the same reason, historically this is why Espresso traditionally gets served and enjoyed with lots and lots of sugar. The drink stems from the times when after WWII the factory workers in Italy had neither time nor money to waste precious money on expensive good coffee, they wanted a coffeine kick, and it had to be fast and affordable. The quality of the coffee used for cheap Espresso (a fast brew costing less time to prepare and to drink), was accordingly: it was a bitter, terrible brew, and it needed lots of sugar to turn into something eatable. Cheap coffee beans = bad coffee. Trivial!

Sweeteners are not all the same. Some get more metabolistically digested and chemically processed in your guts than others, thats why most of them differ in the dose at which they already produce diarrhea, the differences can be many factors. They also differ greatly in sweeteness intensity and own taste, some have very strict, strong own taste (Stevia) that even limit their usability, others are more neutral and less offensive in own taste, can even taste like sugar (I personally find the controversial Aspartam so convincing that I cannot reliably differentiate it from sugar, but I do almost never use it anyway).

Now, insuline. I have not found anything describing how sweeteners chemically or metabolistically trigger an insuline reaction while not causing a rise in blood sugar. Please note: some products that have sweetners in them, do cause insuline reactions, to varying degrees. You may even have a written warning on the bottle or box. Usually it is less intense than from sugars exclusively used. Since some sweetners are not completely free from calories, and/or get digested differently in the upper guts - and because additional agents are beign used that for themselves DO cause insuline spikes.

I think this is what the source of the quoted claim ("some sweetners can cause insuline spikes up to 20% higher than those from sugar") has allowed itself to get confused over: talking of sweetners as a pure agent while in fact referring to ready-to-eat products or liquids that include sweetners AND other agents.

Please note: mixtures of different sweeteners, mostly used in ready-to-eat products like lemonades for exmaple, can include different agents to add sweetness, and such an added agent for example can be fructose. In light lemondes, it can form up to 1% of the liquid's volume. That is something that definitely triggers an insuline reaction. Heck, its fructose, or corn syrups, so what else would you expect? But this does not mean that you get the same when adding for example Xylit - without any fructose. Xylit and Erythrit do not cause any raise in blood sugar, period. And hence I strongly assume they do not cause any insuline reaction at all. I found no evidence and no hint for that. If you know better, I would be thankful for letting me know, I really would like to know these things for certain.



Sometimes it is claimed that the brain realising the taste '"sweet", by this stimulus alone already creates insuline reaction. I cannot find anythign confirming this, however!? As long as this circumstance does not change, I rate this as unproven claim, and therefore: myth.


What is being done by routine by propagators of the anti-sweet-movement, to give the whole crowd a name to call them by, is this: they take psychological arguments on motivation and behaviour and imply these are like are hard-coded metabolistic reactions and processes on the bio-chemical level. But this is wrong - though a factor worth to be considered!

People can - and often do! - believe "Oh, this is a cola light, I saved calories, I have some calories free to eat somethign additional" and they throw in another chocolate bar, or they drink another bottle of it carelessly, ignoring or not knowing that it indeed includes not just a calory-neutral sweetner, but also 1% of fructose. And here you get an insuline reaction for sure - with a "light" product of which you wrongly assume it does not make you thick. It does, a tiny little bit per bottle. But that must not be the wrong of the pure sweetner itself...!

So the argument is that because people can be motivated to eat more because they drank a diet coke, products with artificial sweetners (without fructose or anything!) make people thick and fat and so should be avoided. Wouldn't it be better to educate people on the facts better and more honestly so to change their motivation this way? I personally take great anger from this deceptive and cheap argumentation. And until I do not get shown by evidence (!) that my reasoning is wrong on the chemical and metabolistical level, I insist on that taking sweetners is better than taking sugar as long as you take care not to throw in more other bad stoff due to using sweetners. So, I will continue to enjoy my coffee with a mild dose of sweetner in it (I do not want to have sweet coffee, but mild tasting coffee instead of bitter coffee, that ammount and not more sweetnes in it I want, same for condensed milk or cream), without feeling it as ecothrophologically sinful.

Another abstruse argument mistaken for chemical reality comes from the ecological direction. It is said that sweeteners are bad because they are indeed NEVER natural food, but always are chemically highly-processed agents from the lab. That is absolutely true, even for Stevia (and especially for that one), also for others that have a better reputation like many other sweetners, namely Xylit and Erythrit. They are food lab - like so much artificial stuff you can buy in the bio-market for vegans. Much of that is high tech food and anything but "natural". And often it is low in nutrients, causing deficits whichwho form patterns by which doctors can identify vegans and vegetarians, vegans and vegetarians, too different degrees, often (though not always) need to supplement nutrients like vitamines and minerals. There are many chemically highly processed food nobody cares to call out: plant oils, refined salt, margarine... And I say each of these is more dangerous than sweetners.

Also, an environmentalist argument in formed, due to the chemical processing of sweetners, quoting the energy needed to be invested, and chemical agents used in the process of chemically cracking up molecules, filtering and so forth. Well that is like with avocados. Avocados often get criticised for being transported over long distances, and they need plenty of water to be farmed. That are facts, yes. But these are facts for themselves the consumer should decide on by the standards by which his own personal word view ticks, they are no chemical, nutrition-relevant arguments. Avocados are not dangerous to your health just because they take long travels and need lots of water! They are VERY healthy for sure!

Here you again have the case that chemically hard-coded metabolistic arguments and non-related arguments get both mixed together and taken as one. Such intellectual sluggishness makes me wild! And often missionising drive and ideology is behind it - what makes me even wilder.

A word on Aspartam. It would be my preferred sweetner, because its sweetness is equal to that of sugar, you therefore can dose it like sugar, and I cannot differentiate the taste of it from the taste of sugar, no other sweetner to me tastes as natural and as much the same like sugar. However, I am only human, too, and I irrationally allowed to get scared by the argument that always is being used against it, although you only have an animal experiment with unclear results in its defence, and no human-researched hard evidence. A rat is a rat, and a man is a man, I reject to conclude from the the one on the other, it does not work, and I saw it not working in relation to according conclusions made in the reading on salt, fat, and acrylamide, too. A rat is no human. A chimp is no human. Chimps can digest cellulose, we cannot. As just one exmaple, the list of exmaple is open-ended.

"Aspartam causes cancer." Thats the one claim against Aspartam. More precise: it is claimed to cause cancer in rats, but it has not been really proven in those experiments. Said the American food authorities.

The other claim is indeed a chemical fact, and I learned about it already in physiology class at university. Aspartam includes phenylalanin, and there are people with so-called (German) phenylketonurie who are well advised to avoid phenylalanin, which has a very neurotoxical effect on them. The prevalence for this desease is 1 in 8000 (0.125%), and Aspartam-including products thus must have a warning on their packages that the product includes a phenylalanin source. For comparison, in Europe 0.3-8% of kids and 0.3-3% of adults are affected by any forms of food allergies. The Americans allowed Aspartam in the years from the early 80s to the early 90s for different food product groups, and since the mid-90s without any restrictions, and in the EU the product is allowed wihtout restrictions since 1990. The original patent has fallen, the most known marketing name is NutraSweet, but there are now many other companies offering it, too.

Personally, I am surprised by my own hesitation to use it more, I only use it on Belgian waffles a bit, since it can be dosed like ordinary powder sugar: one tea spoon of this and one tea spoon of that both taste the same and add the same quantity of sweetness. The rat claim is just a claim and never got proven and rats are not humans anyway, and the thing with phenylalanin is relevant for just every 8000th consumer. We have many diabetics that shoudl avoid sugar more or less. Does this make an argument to ban sugar from all and everything? People with peanut allergy - should peanuts be banned from the shelves? Other people having metabolic issues that prevents them from eating this and that - should these foods be banned in general?

Paracelsus said something like that the dose makes the poison, and there can even be individual doses for different people. Its like that with sugar and sweetners as well. People's organisms react differently to both, and can tolerate different doses of these. They all become toxic if you reach excessive doses. What a surprise!

In the late 80s/early 90s the Swedes panicked everybody by claimign that acrylamide causes cancer. What they did not say immediately is that they fed their poor rats - not humans! - with amounts of it that equalled up to several dozens and I think even a hundred times the animals' own body weight. Well, if I eat lets say 600 pounds of acrylamide, I assume I too would then prefer to lay still on the ground and being dead. - This is one of my most favourite examples of how absurd the nutrition debate is often led. In roughly the first decade of this century they tried to replicate the Swedish "findings", and so they amounted almost one thousand studies worldwide! And not one was able to replicate the Swedish findings: not one in almost one thousand! Even worse, more than half of these studies found all the same correlation: a correlation between acrylamid-avoiding eating behaviour, and prevalences to form various sorts of cancer. The more acrylamide-avoiding people were, the more often they got cancer! (This does not mean that acrylamide is an antidot to cancer, it most likely means that the lifestyle acrylamide-aware people are living by makes them prone to cancer: limiting food and nutrients for example) This study meanhwile has been withdrawn, is no longer being referred to, and the scandal is that it even was published in the first, this tells a lot about the lack of quality in the science magazine'S reviewing. Neverthless, until today we get warned to not fry our fries too hot and that we should reduce heat in deep fryers to 175° and you know what. Once the nonsens is out of the bottle, its hard to squeeze it back in. Personally, I do not care for acrylamide one bit. We are evolutionary adapted to it, because our ancestors roasted meat over open fire since - since how many thousands of years...?

I bring this example to illustrate from a different angle that not every claim against sweetners should be uncritically believed. Food sciences often base on only observation studies that do not allow causal linking, like correlations do not allow, too, and this is an inherent and unfortunately omni-present weakness of the whole academic branch of ecothrophology.

All I want to reach with stating this is: dont stop thinking yourself, be modest with whatever our eat, and practice healthy scepticism: do allow to get convinced, but do not allow to get convinced for free and without solid argument. Always scrutinze what is being claimed.



Edit:


P.S. The following is a release by the German "Süssstoff Verband e.V.", a lobby group for producers of sweeteners, so what they say better gets taken with some caution. Still - ah well, form your own opinion.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://suessstoff-verband.info/suessstoff-wissen/haeufige-irrtuemer/suessstoffe-regen-den-appetit-an-und-lassen-den-insulinspiegel-steigen/

Recent studies on cell cultures and laboratory animals have shown that there is a stimulus from the taste receptors to certain hormone-producing cells in the digestive tract. Theoretically, these cells could promote insulin release. Numerous clinical studies with volunteers have shown, however, that this stimulus is so minimal that it ultimately has no effect on either blood sugar or insulin levels.

[Skybird]

Added content:

on Fats:

https://discover.grasslandbeef.com/blog/this-fat-is-actually-worse-than-trans-fats/

Why to be on your guard against Linolic Acid (LA) and Omega 6, and what oxidization and HDL and LDL have to do with it.

Avoid O6. Beef up your O3. Big particle LDL must not be much of a worry, but small mparticle LDL should, since it oxidizes easier. The first seemk to not help in forming atherosclerosis, the latter does. Additional information is needed to assess your cholesterol status, just the total HDL and LDL levels tell you almost nothing.

[Skybird]

Added this:

on Fats / Omega 3:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00108-019-00687-x


The author prof. von Shacky and his companion prof. Harris are amiognst the world'S leading researchers on Omega 3 and close topics. Von Schacky is cardiologist in Munich. The two formed the world'S biggets database on patient data and fatty acid profiles and founded their own company Omega,metrix, which offers the clnical standard for the so-called HS-Omega3-fatty acid analysis, they do some things different than other labs. I had my own fat acid analysis one month ago done in their lab. Theire method seems to have reference character in the US, and slowly finds acceptance by clincial practtioners in germany, too. But I cocldude that as an outsider only.



The paper has to be trnaslated if you are not capable to read it in German. It covers some of the very basic thigns about von Schacky's findings,. illustrating why you cannot just recomend a dose of daily intake for Omega 3 fatty acid accordng to age and wight, the range of doifefrence in efficiency at which individuals digest and resorp it, is incredidbly high: 13x21x10 factors. Here is the reason why many recent studies seem to conclude that Omega 3 is overestimated and doe snot do that much of goods for you as was hyoped in the3 years before - these studies all base on wrong assunptions and ignore some very essential needed truths about it. If oyu do not pay attention to them, the traditonal reocmemndaitosn necessarily mjust fail and lead to a recomemndation "to not waste your money". Which simply is lackign knoweldge, and nonsense.



I am very happy to have managed to get my own fatty acid profile into the best shape possible, better the values practically cannot get. :up:




Abstract

Background

Confusion reigns about omega‑3 fatty acids and their effects. Scientific investigations did not appear to clarify the issue. Guidelines and regulatory authorities contradict each other.

Objective

This article provides clarity by considering not intake but levels of eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA) and docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) in erythrocytes as a percentage of all fatty acids measured (omega‑3 index).

Current data

The largest database of all methods of fatty acid analyses has been generated with the standardized HS-Omega‑3 Index® (Omegametrix, Martinsried, Deutschland). The omega‑3 index assesses the in EPA+DHA status of a person, has a minimum of 2%, a maximum of 20%, and is optimal between 8% and 11%. In many western countries but not in Japan or South Korea, mean levels are suboptimal. Suboptimal levels correlate with increased total mortality, sudden cardiac death, fatal and non-fatal myocardial infarction, other cardiovascular diseases, cognitive impairment, major depression, premature birth and other health issues. Interventional studies on surrogate and intermediary parameters demonstrated many positive effects, correlating with the omega‑3 index when measured. Due to issues in methodology that became apparent from the perspective of the omega‑3 index many, even large interventional trials with clinical endpoints were not positive, which is reflected in pertinent meta-analyses. In contrast, interventional trials without issues in methodology the clinical endpoints mentioned were reduced.

Conclusion

All humans have levels of EPA+DHA that if methodologically correctly assessed in erythrocytes, are optimal between 8% and 11%. Deficits can cause serious health issues that can be prevented by optimal levels.

[Skybird]

On FASTING and INTERMITTEND FASTING


I have seen many of his shorter interviews, podcasts and lectures, but I found this to be the most suitable as an introduction to both the idea of fasting, and the man (to get an impression og him). I know it is a bit longer, one hour or so, but if yo are into these thigns or wondered about it before and did not dare or whatever, this might be what was needed to convince you.


I do much of that myself, and sinc elogner time now. It works. Its easy. You get used to it. Combine fastign with a carbohydrate reduced diet, replace your unhealthy with good eating fats, slash out refined sugar and do not snack between meals. Keep insuline spikes rare in numbers and low in amplitude. Then you are on a good way to improving your health.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9Aw0P7GjHE

[Skybird]

"When you're a kid, you think adults have their shlt together, when you're an adult, you realize no one has their shlt together...." - Dr. Fung on the qualification of doctors who went through just the drilling program of ordinary medical studies at university.


Another brilliant presentation by Dr. Fung. I can only wonder on how many thousands of people'S lives he has had a positive, healing, life-saving influence on by not just sitting in his office and talking to those who find their way to him, but being so engaged in spreading the message as actively as he can. He has the empiry behind him, and his explanatiosn just make bloody strwight, consistent sense. Theory meets empiry, and they get happily married and have many kids.

The industry must hate this man. There is no money in what he recommends.

Fasting as a therapeutic option

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nJgHBbEgsE


Dr. Jason Fung, MD, is a nephrologist and expert in the use of intermittent fasting and low-carbohydrate diets for the treatment of Type 2 diabetes. In this presentation, delivered on Aug. 2, 2018, at the 2018 CrossFit Health Conference in Madison, Wisconsin, Fung shares his first-hand experiences with “The Mess” and discusses how he shifted his research and medical practices as a result of those experiences.

Fung’s objectives for his presentation include: 1. Understanding why long-term weight loss is so difficult. 2. Introducing the concept of therapeutic fasting. 3. Understanding some myths and misunderstandings associated with the fasting process. He recalls treating obese and diabetic patients with traditional methods, which included what he characterizes as poor dietary recommendations and a slurry of drugs. He explains, “It became obvious that I’m just sort of holding their hand until they get their heart attack, until they get dialysis, until they go blind, until we chop their feet off.” “It’s really sad to realize that the profession that you’ve chosen is not really helping people,” he says. This realization compelled him to diagnose the problems associated with traditional care and seek alternative treatment methods for his patients.

Fung historicizes what he calls “the modern eating pattern,” which emerged in 1977 in the U.S. with the development of the Dietary Guidelines for Americans. He notes the 1977 guidelines led to the consumption of more grains and sugars, which in turn led to people “eating often, eating late, and eating all the time.” Incidences of obesity and Type 2 diabetes reached epidemic levels, and the most common treatments long have been drug interventions. Unfortunately, the prevailing non-pharmaceutical prescription — to eat less and move more — has a 99.9% failure rate.

Fung observes that popular wisdom tells us to blame the patient and assume he or she did not adhere to the prescription. He claims a basic understanding of metabolism suggests otherwise, however. Fung explains why a significant reduction in caloric intake leads to a decrease in basal metabolism. This biological inevitability is ignored by the proponents of the “calories in, calories out” fallacy, he observes. He also explains why intermittent fasting is an effective alternative to traditional treatments for obesity and diabetes. The modern eating pattern keeps our insulin levels high all the time as we eat over long durations, and when insulin remains high all the time, Fung explains, our bodies store food energy as fat, and we remain hungry. Intermittent fasting, on the other hand, allows insulin levels to drop, which puts us in burning mode rather than storing mode. Fung claims his recommendations are so effective that patients no longer need to say, “Oh wow, I have to go see my doctor to see what pill I need,” or, “I need to go see my doctor to see if he needs to stick a stent in me.” Instead, Fung explains, “We’re giving you the power to take back your own health, because you’re not gonna get it from anywhere else.”

[Skybird]

From the Deutsches Ärzteblatt:

"What is important to the proponents of such a low-carb diet is to reduce the increased insulin production. Hallberg finds strong words for this, she calls type 2 diabetes “carbohydrate poisoning” and insulin resistance “carbohydrate intolerance”. As soon as you recognize the carbohydrates as triggers for insulin production, the metabolic consequences are completely new. "Basically, we now see the insulin resistance of the organs no longer as the cause of the high insulin levels in type 2 diabetes, but vice versa as their consequence," explains Dr. Kerstin Kempf is turning away from the traditional approach to interpretation. "Ultimately, the body's cells protect themselves from too much sugar, which is forced upon them by ever higher insulin levels,"said the head of the study center at the West German Diabetes and Health Center in Düsseldorf."

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.aerzteblatt.de/archiv/201673/Gegen-Diabetes-und-Adipositas-Dein-Freund-der-Ketonkoerper

This makes all so terribly much sense. Its no new knowldge, thouzgh, but in principle it is very very very old knowledge. Dr. Fung makes this clear as well.

[Skybird]

On IMMUNITY:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdLrpl8TzAw

I currently have the book in reading again (after a longer interruption), necessarily in English, still no German translation. Good one.

[Skybird]

More on SWEETENERS:

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.aerzteblatt.de/archiv/203793/Zuckerersatz-und-Insulinresistenz-Suessstoffe-als-Stoffwechselrisiko

I came across this text from the Deutsches Ärzteblatt, summarising some studies that I have not further explored, but some of the mentioned details, namely the relevance of the guts for indirectly helping to trigger an insuline resistence, had some alarm lights flashing up on my desk. Plus the relevance of certain sweeteners reducing the diversity of the microbiome in the guts. But especially the possibility of insuline resistence being helped to get boosted by sweeteners, what somewhat counters the reason why you would consume them in the first, has me in an raised state of attention-paying, where before I was always relatively relaxed. I expressed in the first post on sweeteners that I am relaxed about that "alarmism" and could not imagine how it should be true. Maybe I must change my view on that topic very substantially. Which would be bad news, of course.

I really would like to see research results on to what degree the insuline production caused by refined sugar equals, is higher or is lower than that caused by various kinds of sweeteners. Dr. Fung mentioned that some seem to trigger higher insuline reaction than white sugar, but did not further elaborate that at the text position where he wrote it in a book.


Dr. med. Kristina Rother criticizes the fact that for a long time the discussion about the safety of a sweetener was largely based on cancer risk and teratogenicity. The sweetener expert, who comes from Germany, is doing research at the renowned US National Institutes of Health (NIH) in Washington and now sees the problem of sweeteners elsewhere: "We also have to talk about metabolic safety." In her opinion, there is clear evidence that that artificial sweeteners can promote insulin resistance. In fact, overweight subjects showed signs of insulin resistance after being given a drink containing sucralose, as measured in the oral glucose tolerance test ( 5th (https://z2ealwz4ajbi6yudkwqrwvy3fq-ac4c6men2g7xr2a-www-aerzteblatt-de.translate.goog/archiv/203793/lit.asp?id=203793#nr5)). This was confirmed again in a recently published randomized control study in healthy people of normal weight ( 6 (https://z2ealwz4ajbi6yudkwqrwvy3fq-ac4c6men2g7xr2a-www-aerzteblatt-de.translate.goog/archiv/203793/lit.asp?id=203793#nr6) ). Dr. med. Stefan Kabisch, doctor and researcher at the German Institute for Nutritional Research in Potsdam, is skeptical: “The new study is certainly an important aspect, but not yet proof.” For Rother, however, the matter is clear: “The connection between sucralose and insulin resistance is practically proven. ”She is of the opinion that this also applies to other sweeteners such as saccharin and acesulfame-K.



Edit: P.S.

Found something. And I do not like what I read.

https://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/36/9/2530

In the conclusions they describe in how far their study is different from earlier such studies which came to opposing results. This study here was done with obese black Americans, while before most such studies were done with non-obese Caucasians. Both race and obesity status are relevant differences in the body's metabolism and physiology, not drmatic, but such differences are real (for exmaple there is medications that help white people, but would almost kill an African, Africans need for the same purpose a different drug, that has nothing to do with "latent racism", but just is reality). Still, something tells me that there nevertheless is something very relevant in this study that points beyond just obese black Americans.


Why is it that the good tasting things so often are unhealthy, and the healthy things so often are less tasty? Its mean. The devil must have made things so.

[Skybird]

On WHEAT (ATI sensitivity, gluten & hidden general food allergy, cealiac desease etc.):


You may have noticed over the past couple of years that this issue has won increasing attention both in the public as well as in the medical community. In Germany, up to 30% of the population claim or is being - mostly wrongly - diagnosed with gluten intolerance. In fact, just 1% of the population actually has this problem.



Gluten-intolerance probably does not even exist as an independent desaease, but is a comftoable alibi diagnosis to hide that one doe snot really know what goes on. More likely is that it is an ndication for a general food allergy, or should be seen as singled-oput smyptom of ATI intolerance. Which is something different that coeliac desease again.


The author of the book I link to, is a global leading expert on these issues, Prof. Detlef Schuppan, he runs specialised on the topic ambulances in Mainz, Germany, and Harvard, USA, maintains scientific research projects in both locations, and teaches at both unversities, in Mainz, and at the Medical School Harvard. The book is slim, but demanding a bit, released by an established academic publisher, Springer Verlag. It goes a bit deeper into the medical and and biochemical, molecular basics, I found it quite demanding, and red it twice, therefore. On the other hand this is the only really profound book on the topic of wheat and according food allergies and ATI intolerance that nevertheless also is accessible for the common public, while still being very profound. There are many "en vogue" books on wheat, and many of them are quite populistic, lurid. This is the one book I recommend. And it is written by a leading expert with reputation beyond doubt and decades of experience, so what else to ask for.

https://www.amazon.com/-/de/dp/B07YFS6PTV/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3 %95%C3%91&dchild=1&keywords=detlef+shed+an&qid=1619260014&s=books&sr=1-1-fkmr0

As a - shallow - introduction, this text from a customer newsletter relased by the German pharmacies. I have not read beyond the above book on this topic, and so do not want to post too much commenting here by myself, i leave it to this "flyer". Being shallow it neverthless is not wrong. And is on the author of the above book.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.apotheken-umschau.de/krankheiten-symptome/magen-und-darmerkrankungen/ati-sensitivitaet-was-ist-das-748581.html


My personal consequences:
since I have lowered simple carb consumption anyway, of course I also had to slash down carbs from pasta, potatoes and cereals, grain, wheat, and so I eat far less bread, and on many days not at all. However, I like and love the taste of fresh bread (and pasta), and completely banning them would kill my compliance in record time. Sometimes a 70% effort gets you much farther than a 100% effort.



A trick that seems to work well for me is to no longer use potatoes and noodles as part of an ordinary lunch, but only when these are the main dish: either spaghetti, or boiled potatoes with butter and salt and a herring. That way you eat them once in a while and then even a bit more, but you do that only rarely (or how often in a week do you have pasta and boiled potatoes? I have pasta maybe every tend ays or so, and bopiled potatoes not more than once a month) That way I nevertheless consume much less of both, but still can enjoy them from time to time.

[Skybird]

Myth Busting: Does Fasting burn Muscle?

This is a very popular myth, even my old doctor (changed him earlier this year) told me that bollocks, amongst some other nonsense.

Take note of the links in the text that lead you to some dedicated studies on the matter.

And no, fasting DOES NOT burn muscle or weaken you. Quite the opposite. Maybe you do not turn into a muscular Schwarzenegger, but you become more energetic, enduring, physically lasting.

https://www.dietdoctor.com/does-fasting-burn-muscle

Beginners who find it hard to keep it, can ease it a bit by allowing a fatty coffee (but not as fatty as a bullet proof coffee) once per day, say 1-2 table spoons of cream 30+%. If that is what maintains your compliance, its worth the price ( I could not drink black, bitter coffee, not for my life). No sugar and no sweeteners, however, both trigger the insuline. Coffee and fat does not. Take salt, lots of water, consider supplementing vitamines and minerals, if you are concerned by that. It should not play a role if you fast only 2-3 days and maybe not even as often as I do (3-4 days in a row, then 4-5 eating days, plus daily intermittend fasting 17/7).

The food industry does not want you to fast. They cannot sell food to a person that does not eat. Instead they tell you you shoudl eat "frequently", and often, spreading over the whole day, or you should eat their wonderful "light" products, or special food designed to help you loosing weight. You could as well believe in the stork bringing the babies! I read nonsense like having 5 or better 6, no: even up to 9 small meals with vegetable and (fructose enriched) fruits, the magazines and daily press are full of this drivel - that borders physical assault, and recommending dangerous health hazards as a healthy cure! And from insuline spike to insuline spike your journey goes that way...

[Skybird]

On SUGAR, METABOLIC SYNDROME, CANCER


And there is scientific and legal causation in these. Thats why currently lawsuits against food companies run well and successfully.

I say: corn syrup, and worse: HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) should be rated as a national health hazard, and be banned from sale and production. Its a much more prominent killer than any of the criminalised drugs like cocaine or meth or heroine.

The worst sugar-sweetener you could use, is fructose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpNU72dny2s

Insuline leads to insuline resistence leads to metabolic syndrome leads to fattness leads to cancer (and many other illnesses).

Wanna live healthier? Eat stuff and eat in intervals that keep your insuline down. Plain logic. Insuline spikes at lower frequency, and - not as relevant - lower amplitudes. But the frequency - how often we eat over the day - that is the key.

Dont eat all the time, all day long. Once a day, connected to social circumstances, is enough! You have one hour of enjoying a meal with family or friends, and then 23 hours for your insuline normalising again (2-5 hours) and fat being burned (the longer the more). Man has lived with such conditions for millenia and millenia - and still is here! While obesity is a relatively new symptom in our evolution, measured in a small number of decades only. And it kills in scores.

[Skybird]

To know about all these things and others, regarding your food, and your doctors, and the way the food industry interferes with and finances health paradigms - this is the modern incarnation of the very old pricniple of surivval of the fittest. Remember: the industry does not want you to live healthy and eat less and rarely. Because you then do not buy their stuff.

Get fit. Learn, take your health's fate in your own hands. Do not blindly trust your doctors and the institutions, nor your family's habits and traditions. Question them.



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[Skybird]

On SOY:


https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://paleolifestyle.de/gesundheit/soja-ungesund/

This nicely sums up why I have come to avoid soy (since years already) although I liked Tofu roasted in the pan after being marinaded for some hours in soy sauce, roasted sesam oil and sherry. I also avoid meat "surrogates" made of soy. Only soy sauce is something i cannot do without in my kitchen, ketjap manis is somehting i cannot do without and cannot replace. But then, it is heavily fermented soy beans, so that is a bit of a difference than natural soy beans (same for Natto (grim taste and consistence, I happily skip it) and other Japanese fermented soy foods, fermentation really changes things, same for fermented milk products). We Westerners live under this impression that Japanese eat Tofu all day long, but they don'T, I knew Japanese people, and they had it rarely and said it is not common to eat often - and if so, then only in context of certain meals helping with Tofu's "fallout".

I also remind of that originally soy beans were not farmed for human consumption but as animal fodder. (Comparable to canola/rap originally getting produced to win lamp oil and ingredients for soap prduction exclusively, usiong it to feed humans came later, it was originally not farmed in huge quantities for human consumption).

Eat meat of god fat quality. Omega 6 and transfats are to be avoided. The concerns about saturated fats are no longer supportable, forget it, like we learned to forget about food cholesterol raising blood cholesterol - it doesn't. The surrogates made of soy imo never came even close to the taste and consistency of meat, not to mention that their nutrient mix is completely different. We should stop to talk of "meat surrogates", so far there are none, that simple the truth is. Like there is no surrogate for cow milk (I do not mean to say you should drink plenty of cow milk, you probably shouldn'T, but in cheese and curd and cream, milk gets processed, if it should taste well, you cannot avoid milk for this). Cereal-water mixes are no milk, do not taste like milk, and if you want to cook with them or put them in your coffee you immediately realise they also do not behave like milk. Try to cook a pudding with them, but don'T be too disappointed with the result!
All this babbling about "alternatives" in the end is just lame excuses for promoting a certain ideology and worldview.

Always watch out for, ask for, check for the quality and type of included fats and oils. I find that when I do that, 9 out of 10 "alternative" food surrogates immediately land in the waste bin. Spend more, east less, eat quality, gain health. To me that rates as just industrially processed food, often with included health hazard.

[Catfish]

^ all quite interesting.

Vitamin D update though - have been taking very high doses of Vitamin D, around 10,000/week for more than a year. Talking to several doctors (one of the MHH Hannover) they advised to immedately reduce the quantity now. Vitamin D is not harmless in a way that you can take as much as you want – it is not only about Calcium levels.

It is better to get the blood levels, stage up the D-level until the fat reservoirs are filled up with Vit. D again, and then stop.
Also better to take Vitamin D in the winter, since UV radiation during summer boosts the Vit. D level and can lead (together with pills) to an overdosage with resulting kidney insufficiency, and even failure.

Vitamin D is "good for you", but do not use too high doses over time, it can indeed lead to kidney failure and the need for regular dialysis.

[Skybird]

Catfish, traditional doctors raised by the classic, industry-influenced paradigm at university all warn of how dangerous supplements are in general. The food and pharmaceutical industry pay over 95% of all medical studies underttaken! There lobbyists are in politics, media and educaiton, and they influence massively the training curriculae at unversities. That is as classical a conflict of interests as "classical" can mean.

I said a lot about Vit-D in the past 12 months, and all what I said I quote from academic, medical, practioner sources, nothing of it has grown on my own intellectual property. In the Wuhan virus thread I mentioned it repeatedly as well. I have three thick books just on vitamine D on my shelves now, two of them by the Einstein of Vitamine D research, Michael Hollick, he is the driving force behind it since 50 years.

Thate doctors who warned you, most likely told you BS, due to his own limited understanding of it (nutrition and prevention play almost no role in studying medicine at university). Especialyl in germany,l the generla atottude ion nutrient supplementation is extrneely phobic, and oriented towards mininmalist doses that do not even cover the minimum biological needs. Endless German concerns, concerns, and more concerns. If you really want to blow up in anger, just read the garbage released be the DGE(German Food Association), it really gets me fuming nowadays. Dubious, obscure, suspicious, I would even call it almost criminal, but its Am erican counterpart is not any better, what they still publish on "healthy"fats and limiting salt and grains and cereals, kills people by the many thousands every year via karciovascular deseased, hypertension, strokes, obesity, and diabetes. THEY MAKE PEOPLE ILL.

At 10.000 iE of Vit-D daily, and assuming you are blessed with non-ill organs, you must not fear problems. There are still the old myths floating around sometimes, namely the risk of hypercalcemia, and yes, Vitamine D can effect other variables as well in the metabolism, in the blood fats, the glucose metabolism. Heck, what else to expect, it is a bloody steroid-hormone, it is of omnipotent relevance! I have written so often now on why taking higher doses and why these still are safe to take, that I do not repeat it all another time here once again. I have linked to videos by Dr. Serheult (last tiem he was asked he said he takes 5 or 6 thousand units although living in some sunshine place: he had low calcidiol levels nevertehless, he said) and I think I listed some others in the Wuhan thread. I gave a head-up on this book (in German): https://www.amazon.de/Vitamin-Heilkraft-Sonnenvitamins-Michael-September/dp/B0161TNQYK/ref=sr_1_3?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3 %91&dchild=1&keywords=Michael+Hollick+Vitamin+D&qid=1620737155&s=books&sr=1-3-spell. The authors are not just any unknowns from outer space, they are luminaries in their branches. Hollick was the Big Bang of Vitamine D research in modern time.Severla of the key discoveries sinc the 780s, have been booked by him and his team.


I just say this (again): the body is prepared by nature to handle 20.000 IE per day. taking more is safe, but most likely useless (costs more money for nothing). A growing risk is not to be expected below up to 40.000 IE per day over any months, or as one-time-doses of 100-150 thousand IE in one day (fully reversible symptoms in case of the latter). Vitamine D must be combined with Magnesium, the storage form of it that you swallow in a pill or produce via the sun can metabolically not be used, must be activated before that, and for that Magnesium is a must. Vitamine K2 helps additionally, but is, at these doses, not really essential. Its maximum dose beyond which K2 turns poisonous is still not knowm, but the ylooked very high already, and did not yet find the limit, so you risk nothing there except a few pennies. It helps to keepo the Calcium mint he biones, and get Calcium in the blood transported into the bones (and teeth). But it is not the only but essential actor for this.

And I also say this: if you want to be safe, then do not speculate, but measure. A Vitamine-D test can be asked for easily, can even be ordered for use at home, at the doc it costs around 25-30 Euros. My dentist offers it as well, that relevant he considers good Calcidiol levels! Wer wissen will, muß messen. . Many Vitamine-D doctors say they want Calcidiol levels of at least 40-60 ngr/ml, and your daily dose to reach that depends on your ammount of body fattness, and metabolic rate. I have taken since long time 10,000-15,000 IE per day, on average 12500 over the past 6 months or so, and this March, as I reported in the Wuhan thread I think, I had a robust Calcidiol level of 73 ng/ml, which is a bombastically good value: it is above the mere academically wanted minimums of 40-60, and still significantly below threat levels that according to some sources are starting to become a valid concern from 100 on, others say 120 or even 150.

If your doctor tells you taking 10.000 IE per day is a rik for you but he does not give you a valid diagnosis for any health conditions of yours that organically put you at risk, then do like I did early this year: say him farewell and find yourselfelf a new doctor. Dogmatical defenders of outdated paradigms and business lobbies designed to protect the profit interests of industry, are not a benefit for your health. ;) Doctors are only humans, you know. They can err, and they can not know something. Absolutely possible.

Avoid Calcidiol levels of 30 or deeper at all cost. They should be seen as very serious health risks.

I aimed at 70-80, and with 73 I landed right on the mark: 12500 IE per day, metabolically usable Magnesium ca. 800 mg, Vit-K2 200 mcgr, I am male, age 54, 177cm, weight back then was 87 kg (slightly overweight at that time, now am at 76 and falling :) ), abdominal girth 104 cm (back then). This gives you an idea.

I do not worry about calcidiol levels up to 80-90, at worse I produce expensive urine. The body by nature is made to handle 20.000 IE per day, this is established knoweldge and verified in practice, and this is what correpspnds with the Calcidiol levels in primtive tribes beign exposed to high-UV light all day long while walkign around almost naked. I probably reduce to 10000 any time soon, due to my no longer existent fat reserves.

Never forget one thing: if you are healthy, the industry cannot make economic profit from you. And vitamines and minerals cannot be patented, cannot be used to make fortunes with. They want to sell expensive drugs with long lists of health risks and side effects. At your expense.

Dont worry, dont be so easily intimidated. Use your reason, get some education on the matter, and then add 1 and 1 together.

Nutrition, food, nutrients, supplementation is a wide field. University and medical paradigms do not even get close to adequatly reflect their relevance. Prevention and healing and maintaining health is not high on the agenda, the big money lies in endlessly treating symptoms only - while leaving the causes untouched. That maintains the customer base. ;)



Check your Calcidiol level once a year. Thats how I do it now. He who wants to know, must measure.

[Skybird]

Heck, I just realised you did not write "10000 units per day", but "10000 units PER WEEK".

:haha:

What the hell are you even worrying about...??? 1500 IE per day - That is nothing!

P.S. Fauci, when asked said he takes 5000 per day. The German DGE, idiots that they are, still stick to 800 per day (I thoguht they had raised it to 2000 meanwhile...) : and since your dose, catfish, is twice as much than that, your doctor believes in the official recommendationsand takes them as ultimate truth because they are precious always trustworthy official recommendations and so must be right. And so he hits your alarm button.

Do not believe him. (I say this assuming there are no inherent health conditinsn or deseases in your system that indeed could recommend limiting several nutrients. cancer patients for exmapelk wpould nto nwant to take all nutrient that strengthen cell health, since they woudl also strenghten cancers vcells when taking them).

Get up and have a Calcidiol test in your blood serum. If you have less than 60 ng/ml, raise your daily dose.


Vitmaine D doe snot directla affect the kidney, only indirectly via the calcium in a hypercalcem ia. So, if you think you are sufferinbg from Vitamine D intoxication :D, then you would need to have extrenely, very extremely high elvels, anmd then it wpould affect your calcium metabolsim becasue then the Vitmaine D would extract much more calciuum form the food you digest. So an altenative is - and I have that form adoctor, not just my imagination - check not or not only you Calcidiol level, but your calcium level as well. Its cheap. If you calcium is fine, then there is no chance that Vitamine D affects your kidneys negatively (kidney stones, kidney inflammation).



Down the street where i live there is a man who won the lottery last summer. I heard he takes Vitamine D. Other people get kidney problems, and also took Vitamine D. - So...?

The health system is not about healt, but making money. Healthy people are a n annoyance for that task.

[Skybird]

Catfish,

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30294301/

Note that they say quite the same like I do. They assume, as I did, a vitamine D toxicity (VDT) from levels of 150 ngr/ml of Calcidiol in serum upwards, that is far, far above what I recommend as safe.

I bet money on that with 10,000 IE in seven days you are a lightyear away form such levels. You cannot reach that levels this way. Not even with my daily dose, I take your weekly dose in one day! Its just not possible if your organs work normally and you are not ill.

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vitamin-d-side-effects#The-bottom-line

The whole text is kind of vague in describing what levels the studies they refer to have been run with. Still, I tend to not disagree with them that much. They are just not precise enough, imo.


Although a vitamin D level of 30 ngr/ml (75 nmol/l) is typically considered adequate, the Vitamin D Council recommends maintaining levels of 40–80 ng/ml (100–200 nmol/l) and states that anything over 100 ng/ml (250 nmol/l) may be harmful.40-80, there you have it again, I said 60-80, and probably even safe until 100-150.

Levels below 30 ngr/ml are dangerously low. Below 20 you are in need of immediate health measures to get your calcidiol up. In case of a Covid 19 infeciton, your risks would be multiplied by many factors below 30 ngr/ml. So why just jangign aroudn at minimums? Have some reserves, build some more. Why wanting just 40 if you can have 80?

I do not deny that it becomes toxic from some level on, and I rated it to be the case from exceeding daily doses of 40,000 IE (they say even 50,000 IE) over severla months, or a single once-in-a-lifetime dose of over 100-150 thousand. However, there are therapeutical protocols in clinical context using up to 500 thousand IE, and more! Everything becomes toxic if you take too much, think of Paracelsus. Even O2. Even H2O. The question is where to set these treshhold levels. Conventional medical paradigms set it way too low - as with practially every micronutrient. All vitamines and minerals and trace elements they mention - they always, always always seem to systrmatcally underdose them by factors, apparently in a bid to keep you from taking them at all, and if you do, then at least in non-therapeuticla doses so low that they will not help you from benefitting them. Many studies on Omega 3 recently were done, and were it was hailed some years ago, since some years they all suddenly mysteriously claim: it doe snot work, save your money, Omega 3 does niothiugn for you. It is mysteriously only as long as you do not look up the studies. I did with some of these. The doses by which Omega 3 from low levels was papmperd upwards, were hilariously lowl while confoudnign variable like mutliple times as high O,mega 6 slevekls were left uncontrolled, unaltered. If you have lets say 20 tinmes miore Omega 6 than Omega 3, and then add 5% of Omega 3 consumption to your diat and leave the Omega 6 were they are - then you MUST find that it makes no difference and that Om,ega 3 "doie snot anything for you". Its wanted methodolocial bull to keep peopopel from caring for this issue,. They should buy precious healthy plant oils from corn, soy, and sunflower instead! Their Omega-6 levels will kill you over the years, slowly, but until then you serve as a productive financial source of money income for the industry running those monumental monocultures... Doesnt this add a valuable meaning to your life? :)

They spread fear by exaggerating the risks. Do not fall for that !

Be sick, pay much money for meds, and be a financially fertile and economically valuable patient. That is what the real name of the game is. Healthy you are of no economical use for the industry.

Edit:
There are quite some books helping you to get cured form your belief your doctor i8s infallible. This is one I happen to know. The author - is a doctor himself. He is not right with everything - hear hear! - but with most what he writes there. His comments on fibres however I would take with a grain of salt. I see fibres as disputed battleground, the debate is still open.



https://www.amazon.com/Lies-My-Doctor-Told-Second/dp/162860378X

[Skybird]

From the American Amazon shop:


https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/716iK8iGr-L._AC_SL1500_.jpg


:D Look at the dose. 50,000 I.E. :haha:


Indeed, in the US, Netherlands, the UK, Vitamine D is freely sold at doses of up to 50,000 I.E. per pill. No prescription needed. To my knowledge, problems and scandals have not been reported with using such doses. As I said, however, I think taking higher doses than 20,000 per day only creates expensive urine, the body apparently is made tometabolize 20,000 per day - but not more. Beyond that level, a negative feedback loop gets activated that reduces Vitamine D production in the skin dramatically - and kills equal ammounts of Vitmaine D in existing fatcell reserves. As I see it you have no benefits from taking more than 20,000 per day (if you have no health conditions needing severla hundred thosuand units to actually get at least a small benefit from taking Vit-D.
This is a Swiss doctor specialising in Vitamine D high dose therapy in clinical contexts, I know a bit about him in a different context as well, I trust him. Its in German, sorry. Maybe subtitles and auto-translation does the job, I have not checked it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPnbW-nR-IM

The highest dose i can find at German amazon, is 20,000. I have a remaining stock of these, from my flooding phase last year. Will consume them over the next winter.

[Skybird]

On Cholesterol and Carbohydrate Reduction:




https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://kochketo.de/cholesterin-und-keto/

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://foodpunk.de/alles-ueber-cholesterin/

Things are a bit different than just "high cholesterol cloggs your arteries". From some age on, higher cholesterol levels are even associated with smaller risks for death, whereas low levels that were considered "healthy " until some years ago seem to increase the risk for certain types of cancer and heart attacks.

If you want to check with your doctor, do not be satisfied with just learning total cholesterol levels, but ask for a specialised analysis of how your LDL is composed: how much small density LDL (sdLDL) and oxidated LDL (oxLDL) do you have (you want them to be low), and how is your HDL level (you want it to be rather high)? Big larticle LDL is not so much a cocnern, and that is what usually gets raised by cionsuming keto fatty diats and MCTs. sdLDL and oxLDL are the more relevant data.


Worth to remember: if you fast, or eat keto style and thus more healthy fats/oils, your LDL MUST rise, and it is wanted, because all the fat and lipids and keton bodies must get transported from the liver to the parts of the body where they are needed. Thats what the LDL does, whereas HDL works the other way around, collecting unused components and transporting them back to the liver for recycling. Think of it like christmas time. People raise the amounts of parcels due to the gifts and presents they sent, and so the mail and logistics services are more present with their vans on the street, they even do additonal shifts: you see more vans on the streets. Its just logical.

[Skybird]

Hope for celiac desease patients:


https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2032441


In Germany, around 1 in 100 is affected. Just years ago, it were 1 in 500. A new generation of technical encymes used in industrial bread-baking, helping to reduce the fermentation times and thus not doing the job anymore that fermentation (and that means necessarily: time) is meant to do, has entered the industrial baking factories. I see at least a timely correlation with the increase in numbers of people being affected by celiac desease (and claimed Gluten sensitivity, which however is over-diagnosed by a factor of around 30) and digestive problems after having eaten such bread. These encymes are so incredibly potent that they must be dosed with a precision in the range of 1-2 mg per 1 ton of flour. Imagine what they do in your body if they are not properly mixed and evenly distributed, but reach your system accidentally in an even just marginally concentrated form.

Many people do not know that EVERY consummation of wheat leads to inflammatory events in the guts, every single bite of wheat. Its just that in the healthy person and with wheat in a properly treated form (long fermentation), these inflammations usually stay below a treshhold level (above which we indeed would notice them in form of pain in the guts).

Eat less cereals. I eat a loaf of bread, am done with it after 2 or 3 days - and then do not eat any bread for the coming 10 days or so. I love the taste of good, fresh bread, I will not completely abandon it therefore - but I have reduced the consummation levels, its no longer a daily food of mine (even more reocmmended sinc I aolos eat pizza... :) ). And if you do, eat cereals in a fermented form, and that means: longer fermentation times (doughs!) is better than short ones. Industry bread I would avoid, ready baking mixtures from the supermarket shelves for home baking I would avoid as well.



Thats one of the two reasons why I let my pizza doughs rest for 2-3 days (the other is improved elasticity and consistency of the dough, and a bit more of arome and a reduction of yeast and its unwanted taste). Its also the reason why after 3, 4 years of laziness I am moving back to baking my bread myself (which I did for over 25 years already, almost 30 years). I do not tolerate the baker's bread too well. Oh, it tastes good, some of them at least, but since I eat them, I have again and again ininflammatory events in my guts, pain that lasts for 1-3 days. When I do not eat this short-time-fermented bread, which happens a lot over the past 12+ months, I have no problems at all. And its not the gluten. I use lots of gluten for my own baking, since it improves the dough when I grind my own flour freshly: bread or pizza, you cannot get an elastic, soft, juicy dough without gluten). I use a household bread baking machine where you put in the ingredients and the rest does the machine. The problem is that its programmes has the bread ready 4-5 hours later - super short fermentation time, that means. Therefore, I interrupt the process, I let it work the dough and mix it for the initial 20 minutes or so - and then switch the machine off. I come back to it 18-24 hours later, and then activate directly the baking program. 25 hours this way, 4-5 hours the automatic program's way. Go figure.


In the old days, the use of sour dough was right about this: long fermentation times, and having the chemical agents and molecules by which the grain defends itself against its enemies eating it (us), getting neutrlaised. Toda,y this tiem is not invested anykore sinstea dhighly aggressiove encymes get used to skip it, and these encymes enter your system. Bon appetite, dont complain.

[Skybird]

Blaming those extra pounds on a slowing metabolism as you age? Not so fast.
A new international study counters the common belief that our metabolism inevitably declines during our adult lives. Well, not until we’re in our 60s, anyway.
Researchers found that metabolism peaks around age 1, when babies burn calories 50 percent faster than adults, and then gradually declines roughly 3 percent a year until around age 20. From there, metabolism plateaus until about age 60, when it starts to slowly decline again, by less than 1 percent annually, according to findings published Thursday in the journal Science.





https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/metabolism-adulthood-does-not-slow-commonly-believed-study-finds-n1276650


https://science.sciencemag.org/content/373/6556/808

[Skybird]

A prominent health issue: Cancer.

I just finished the latest book by Dr. Jason Fung, and it was probably the best I have red on the topic so far. British Amazon thus has it at 4.8 of 5.0 stars with over 700 filed reviews. Its really a very good view with a very reasonable though kind of "unusual" perspective. His arguments are, as always, solid and convincing. I give the link. Its available in German, too.

Good to learn that there are reallyreally good doctors out there as well.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Cancer-Code-Revolutionary-Understanding-Medical/dp/B08GSQKJ5B/ref=sr_1_2?crid=DSP3FB3JAC86&dchild=1&keywords=jason+fung+cancer&qid=1635103108&sprefix=jason+fung+cancer%2Caps%2C66&sr=8-2

[Skybird]

A 40 minute give-and-take dialogue on the need and worth of nutrition supplements, between a former German radiologist and hospital chief physician who now specialises in preventive medicine and nutrition medicine, and a high-profile research pharmacologist. Its in German, sorry, you can see to what degree Youtube's English translation subtitles (in the options) do helpful magic for you.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=falBpoTw2zs

[Skybird]

10 minute lecture by Dr. Brownstein:

Does Iodine Cause, Worsen, Treat or Improve Autoimmune Thyroid


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih6Kpzu2E74

[Skybird]

Today's Ioday.:D
Some more on Iodine again. The text has many aspects covered, some historical facts (you would not believe how high doses before WW2 were, used as daily standards!).


Interesting especially are the readers' comments at the bottom, becasue many, the majority of comments there seem to come from practicing doctors.





https://drprevent.com/iodine-its-a-biggie/

[Skybird]

OMEGA 6

Do you think you have 200 seconds of your precious time free? Then see this. It explains wonderfully brief and compact why I called and still call seed oils poisonous and health hazards and unsuited for human consumation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV-1KbopjaA

heck, how much I owe to this man. All what I know about salt and fats and oils and fatty acids , I first learned from him. And my health says Thankyousir!

Note: oils from seeds, and fresh seeds are not the same, since fresh seeds include many plant sterols, flavonoids, secondary things, and so many more antioxidants and additonal things that the oil does not have. Also,oils oxidate, from oxygene, light, pressure, heat. If you think about taking oil from flaxseed - don't, but instead take a teaspoon of flaxseeds and crush them fresh in a mixer and eat them and swallow them with one or two sips of water, coffee, or in your yogurt or whatever. Same is true for sunflower seeds and the likes. Never the oils, alway prefer the full seeds, freshly crushed.


What to use for cooking, frying in the pan, you ask? Coconut oil. Butter ghee. For low temperature cooking: certain types of olive oils extra vergine are suitable for that, too, but you have to search them out, not every olive oil extra vergine can deal with the heat, the manufacturer usually advertises with the ability of the oil to deal higher temperatures, since most olive oils extra vergine cannot. Never use refined olive oils. If you like the taste: lard (Schweineschmalz), tallow (Rindertalg).


Note: coconut oil looses its coconut flavor when getting heated up, it becomes neutral in taste! No need to fear the strong taste of coconut.


And this man, unknown to me until today: could seed oils be the primary cause of civilizational deseases? Yes, you bet!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kGnfXXIKZM

[Skybird]

SALT


And my other "hero", Dr. Jason Fung, on low salt diets, or better: the strong and unfortunately very influential publication bias. I am not shy on salt - and my cardiovascular variables went from "drug-supported" to "healthy". I had reduced my hypertension meds over the last years and almost reduced them - and since three weeks I am completely off - with normal blood pressure slightly below 120/80 and heart rate at rest down from 110+ for most of my life to now below 70! That was an 18 month process. My old doc, but the new one alike, find it hard to believe. But its real, and its results that hold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIwhVshA1Nk

So much, so very much speaks against the salt-hypertension theory, and this is known since decades. We have seen many nutrition paradigms come and go over the past 100 years, some of them got busted and revealed as wrong myths, but some still stay strong in place, unfortunately the low salt regime is one of them. But I call it one of the worst, even criminal nutrition policies ever, having done serious health damage to millions and millions over millions in the past decades, and having caused unimaginable financial costs in the health sector. And they still preach this lethal nonsense because some academics' great ego cannot stand to admit that for decades they have preached the wrong truths - or that they were bought by the industry.

The book you want to read is "The Salt Fix" by James DiNicolantonio. Until then: let the salt shaker dance on your table as you pleases! use a smuch as you find tasty. Feel no guilt. There are many wrongs in modern industrialised highly processed food products: bad fats, sugar, white flour and high carbo hydraztes - the salt content is none fo them. Its not about the salt - but the bad stuff you eat your salt with!

P.S. Most people seem to prefer, by mere taste, a daily dose around 7-16 grams of salt per day. But before we had refrigerators, people ate up to 80, 100, 120 grams of salt per day, in some places in North America and Europe up to 200 grams! And we have no historic reports about this having caused any form of "pandemic" cardiovascular problems. People had to drink more, and that was all! A healthy kidney is made for and is capable of processing several hundred times as much salt as modern man eats today, that is absolutely no problem! ;) When refrigertos started their conquest of the households and electricty became widely distrubuted, salt consumation came down - and simultaneously the rate of cardiovascular desaeas and hypertzensioon went up, and steeply so! Why? Because the new tool in the kitchen allowed new eating habits and new food products. The cooling came in, the salt (from the brining) went out, the cardiovascular deaseases went up like a ballon.

Its not the salt - its what you eat the salt with!

I also say this: if you save on salt, you always pay a price in your health. The body reacts to it by reducing blood volume, the water then goes from the blood into the tissue, the periphery vascular tone increases, the heart has to work harder to get the now more viscous blood circulating through the now narrower blood vessels - your heart rate goes up, the heart has to pump heavier and more often. I saw it in my own life. I am down from unhealthy HR 110+ at rest for most of my life down to now very relaxed and healthy 70 and below. And that effect set in on the very same day I started to eat much more salt, the reaction followed within 10 hours or so! Having two eggs rolled in 6-7 grams of salt now is part of my late breakfast - additionally to the salt I eat over the day. Thats what I actually eat two eggs for - to get the extra dose of salt into my body.

[Skybird]

Depression, thyroid and iodine

7 minutes of insight. See this as a heads-up on that mental and mood problems and psychological issues not necessarily must or should be "tackled" by psychopharmaceuticals and heavily abused anti-depressants, but then also not only by endless talking therapoies and behavioural therapies, but - food, and nutrition. If I would still work as a ps<chologist today, I would not be a psychologist and therapist anymore, but most likely as a general counselor (to avoid legal probelksm with the law and health insurrances) with a strong focus also on nutrition (and Buddhist models of the human mind and consciousness). In New Zealand they have a "mental asylum" were they seem to treat patients not so much with drugs and medications, but with nutrition and supplements, and I do not talk just about neurosis and bad moods, but schizophrenia and worse. That is fascinating and amazing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1Y8xXJBwDw

[Skybird]

Health Wars in US schools. This one made me chuckle.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/06/healthier-school-menus-pose-challenges-at-some-schools/432201/

Compare to this translated essay:

https://www-faz-net.translate.goog/aktuell/stil/essen-trinken/ernaehrung-als-kriegsschauplatz-der-ernaehrungspsychologe-erklaert-15872819-p3.html?printPagedArticle=true&_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp#pageIndex_2

Everything with reason, and eye measure, please. Too much ideology is in the the game, too much incompetently handled pseudoscience and method abuse. Too many nutrition myths that already are debunked and still get held up - or got replaced by new myths not any less erratic.

As with other convenient topics, climate for example, health and nutrition nowadays too often get abused for ideological reasons, displaying one's own world view and determination to impose it on others, and enforcing social and civilizational change and replacement of social order, a new form of class conflict, by making ecology and nutrition weapons that get swung in the war against those who stick to the "old order".

Last time I was in a "Bio-Supermarkt" over here, was short after New Years Eve, I wanted a certain salt, and I quickly regretted to have gone there again. The typical audience often is easy to recognise, but the vegetable on display was shabby, old, and withered. To compensate for it, it was expensive.:LOL: No way I waste money or time on such stuff. But those who buy it often push their proudly swinged chest like a polished harness when they go to pay, and there they then stand with that poor looking strunk of withered leek and hold it as if it were the sword Excalibur.

Absurd.

Some basic things should be known about food. Some endlessly repeated myths and lies should be objected to as often as they get repeated. But many now turn it into a religion, a form by which they express what they consider their core identity, their group context. Psychologically, that leads to camp-building and polarization, sectarianism. And regarding eating, it leads to loss of enjoyment, taste, and - health.

[Skybird]

Medcram'S Dr. Seheult on a new and bomb-proof study showing that Vitmaine-D (and to lesser degree Omega 3) helps to significantly redcue auto-immune diseases of various kind.



This is not specifically on Covid-19, but several different serious autoimmune diseases.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezuyfGLph4Q

A very solid study design, very solid methodology, and high "n."

The conclusions on the positive effects sound not like much (although they are anything but small), but I want to remind of that the study used still very low doses of Vitamine D (2000 IU) and Omega 3 (1 gr) only, whereas many experts for both would say that the real therapeutical relevance starts at 4-6 thousand IU Vit-D and 2-3 gr EPA+DHA. I am very confident that higher doses than those they used would have shown a much higher effect over time, especially in case of Vit-D, because we know that the number of genes Vitamine D can activate and switch for the positive, does not rise just linear with increasing of doses but exponentially.

Also, both nutrients are interacting heavily with other nutrition supply status that they depend on to work best,. and depend on for resorbation. Apparently the study unfortunatey, like I see so often in ecotrophology, did not pay attention to this, so the nutrients supply status of the almost 29000 participants is unknown. Considering that these days the nutrition standard is not good, I absolutely would expect that if the other nutrients would have been optimized to interact best with the given Vit-D and Omega 3 doses, even these given low doses would have shown even better effects. Thats a theory I claim, but I think its a very well founded, reaosnable consideration thta almost recommends itself.

Nutrients of maximum interest for this study would have been Omega-6 status, Arachidon status, Magnesium, Calcium, Vitamine C, Vitamine A, and parat hormone (not a nutrient but an importan index) Then this good and solid study would have been even better.

The study I did not read, I trusted in Dr. Seheult to have summarized it correctly. Doing such things is the bread and butter of his lectures, isn't it.

[Rockstar]

Most likely already posted but I haven't researched any previous posts.

Anyway, something I've recently run across that when taking Vitamin D3 is too combine it with K2 Mk7. Usually sold together, the K2 is supposed to reduce calcification buildup in the arteries.

[Skybird]

Indeed, I often have mentioned it. Taking Vit-D should best be understood as taking a trio of D3, K2 and Magnesium.

D3 increases the efficiency by which calcium gets extracted from the food in the guts, from the calcium in the food a bigger share gets absorbed by the body if there is a good supply with D3, than there is calcium absorbed when D3 if deficitary.

The calcium then is in the blood.

So that the calcium does not stay in the blood, where it should not be, it needs to be transported into the bones and teeth, and must be kept there. This is where K2 comes in, it is like a taxi that picks calcium guests up in the streets (blood vessels) and drives them to into their hotesl: the bones and teeth. Calcium finds that it is where it wants to be, leaves the taxi and everybody is happy.

This is however only relevant if you take really high doses of Vit-D. The common doses of 1000-5000 IU, and probably even more, are not producing that much calcium in the blood that K2 is an urgency and that you should worry about your calcium. That is pretty much a consensus amongst Vit-D experts.

Usually, magnesium is more relevant for most people, because 40% or more of Western people are Magnesium-deficient anyway, and without Magnesium Vit-D in its storage form - inside fat-tissue - cannot be activated by he body, it is like gold inside a safe for which you have no key or code. Magnesium is needed to turn the storage form of Vit-D into the metabolically active and usable form.

It is strongly assumed, and also reasonable, that osteoporosis is caused by a change in metabolism that gets either caused or at least further worstened by K2-deficiency. Then the calcium is no longer being held in the bones, where it belongs. And where should it go to from there? Can only go into the bloodstream. Calcium in blood thus goes up high. Which is the reason why many old women die of it (most osteoporis diagnoses are given to female patients). But they do not die of osteoporosis, but from arterosclerosis: calcification of blood vessels. Dont tell me that this does not make an awsome lot of sense. :03: Osteoproris maybe does not indicate a calcium deficit, maybe there is enough or almost enough calcium in the body - its just not situated where it belongs!

Thats why nowadays a doctor who still tells his patients with osteoporosis that they need calcium injections or evervescent tablets, in principle commits a grave medical malpractice. At least with no other, significant health issues messing up the formula. Thats why we see no advertising for calcium tablets anymore, since many years already. That has killed people in the past, that simple it is!

Vit-D's relevance for transporting calcium from the bloodstream into the bone, is misunderstood by very many doctors who claim that it is what Vit-D does. Thats not really correct, its relevance for the transportation is very minor, the transport is K2'srelevance, not Vit-Ds so much. Vit-D increases the absorbation rate of calcium from the food: thats what it predominantly does with regards to calcium.

The danger of calcium problems is used a very lot to demonise the supplementation of Vit-D and to bring peoplel away from it, not to mention: making peopel so afraid that they do not use therapeutically relevant doses.

Under ideal natural conditions, the human body, its skin, can produce 20 thousand IU of Vit-D in the skin if fully exposed to sunlight with a UV-index higher than 3 (thats a physical precondition you do not get around: no UV higher than 3: no Vit-D production worth to be mentioned, period). When that ammount per day has been reached, the production rate gets dramatically reduced by the body, very dramatically, so it seems to be a natural limit set at 20,000 IE. Thus I would conclude that it makes, for a normal and healthy person, no sense to consume higher doses than these 20,000 per day. But even 40,000 per day over many months has been shown to not be health-damaging in any perceivable way (no previously existent health issues assumed). Its just that you probably waste your money then. It biologically seems to make no sense to go this high.

I consume 2x 5000 IE Vit-D per day, plus 2x 200mcgr K2 and 2x 800mg Magnesium. My last test was in autumn lastr year, I had a level of then 82 ngr/ml. Strong! Good! But not too high!

There is a lot of fear-mongering being done by health officials and lobbyists, and many doctors simply never have been taught this when they studied.

True is, however, that pills neither can (nor should!) replace exposition to sunlight, for that has other additional health benefits as well (interferon production in mitochondria due to infrared in sunlight, for example), nor should pills repalce eating healthy. They talk of supplements, not of replacements or surrogates - and for a reason that is! ;) A little excercise also is part of the formula (though I must admit that I have become a sinner regarding this).

Important to understand is just this: most vitamines and minerals you can no longer get in the sufficient ammounts by natural fresh food and fresh air and sunlight anymore. Our foods, even organically risen, simply is not good enough anymore, our famrign soils are depleted, our new genetic creaitons leave to be desired, and many of us do not get the needed skin exposition to the needed UV levels anymore, even less so when using sunblockers to help against skin cancer. You need to find a workign balance there. And mind you, a good supply with Vit-D has anti-carcinogenic prophylactic effects and supports the immunity functions of your body. Myself, I use no sunblocker in summer anymore as long as I do not go on days-long bicycle tours, else I just wear thin shirts with long sleeves, thicker trousers, and a hat. I use some head-work and avoid walking too long in the sun, that simple. Sunblockers? Only very rarely, when i cannot avoid exposition over hours. Sunblockers also block your skin's Vit-D production.


edit:
You are right with your mentioning of K2-MK7, there are many chemical forms of K2, and most of them cannot be made use of by the human body, a few get absorbed by very low rate, the by far most efficient way to consume K2 is that K2 that comes in the form of "MK-7 all trans". I explained earlier in this thread what that means. You want K2, not K1 (even this gets messed up by doctors not rarely), and you want your K2 as MK7 all trans. K1 can be added, but its releavnce in the cintext discusse dhere, is very, very limited. K1 does other things better.


https://www.amazon.de/Vitamin-D-Die-Heilkraft-Sonnenvitamins/dp/3804738753/ref=sr_1_4?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3 %91&crid=SB7JF5FXM3EB&keywords=Vitamine+D+buch&qid=1673637468&sprefix=vitamin+d+buch%2Caps%2C89&sr=8-4

https://www.amazon.de/Osteoporose-Folge-fehlerhafter-Ern%C3%A4hrung-Lebensweise/dp/3939865141/ref=sr_1_4?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3 %91&crid=37E2YNN7NKVYC&keywords=osteoporose&qid=1673637432&sprefix=osteoporose%2Caps%2C79&sr=8-4

[Rockstar]

Another supplement I’ve been taking is 500mg of Niacin Vitamin B3 with Flush.

Supposed to be good for helping to reduce blood pressure. FYI for the fellas, you will eventually build a tolerance to the hot flashes within the week. :)



As for Vitamin D I’ve also read it assists with cognitive function.

[Skybird]

At our age even doctors recommend that ALL actors of the Vit-B complex should be supplemented by both genders. Vit-B is known to be an age-dependant emerging deficit, and it effects EVERYBODY, its an aging symptom. That is common medical advice even beyond the supplementers' community. :03:


Niacin is also available as "flush-free". :03:


Beside its usually described medical benefits, it also can support the adaptation to increasing doses of iodine (B2 as well), and can prepare for the the detoxification reaction that many people misunderstand to be "iodine intolerance" (which for organic - and essential!!! - iodine does not exist and cannot exist. Radioactive iodine isotopes obviously are something very different).

[Rockstar]

At our age even doctors recommend that ALL actors of the Vit-B complex should be supplemented by both genders. Vit-B is known to be an age-dependant emerging deficit, and it effects EVERYBODY, its an aging symptom. That is common medical advice even beyond the supplementers' community. :03:
Niacin is also available as "flush-free". :03:

The information I’ve read it’s a nicotinic acid which causes the flush and it’s that acid which is supposed to help reduce cholesterol levels. While no-flush niacin works as other B vitamins to promote energy metabolism it has not been shown very well to have an effect on cholesterol levels.

But as always check with your doctor and make yourself aware of the side effects. They’re always pros and cons to everything we shove in our pie-hole. :salute:

[Skybird]

As for Vitamin D I’ve also read it assists with cognitive function.
Well, its no vitamine, but a steroid homrmne. That means as a hormone it is practically omnipresent. Only few molecules and elements are participating in so many metabolic function, like Vit-D.

With age comes a declining energy support of neural cells in the brain. Amiognst othger pathsm, Vit-D apporeoahces the issue here by helping the cells to consume energy in form of certain fats instead of carbo hydrates. It is assume dand research ic done on the thesis that severla forms of mentla disoerders like shizophrenia could be understood as brain cells starving to death due to insufficient energy intake. Deficits like Pakronson and Alzheimer also may have asscoiated links to this understanding fo neurons "starving". Vit-D also seems to affect the regeneration of myelin sheds along neurons.



I think the idea that Vit-D is associated to cognitive performance is a prmsijn g theory that is worth to be researched deeper. Such research is alsraedy done. the results are limited in range and scope, how they get interpreted so far seems to depend ore on the background of the interpreter than the quality of the data, it seems. But I do know that cognitive functionings in Alzheimer patients can be reactivated to certain degrees - as long as the neurons were just close to "neural starvation" death and not indeed alreayd dead - by letting the consume signfiocant amounts of MCT oils and coconut fat/oil. If Vitamine D can be reliably proven to play a role in reuglating the absorbation of such nutrients by neurons, then its relevance for the regulation of cognitive fuctions is practically proven.



But all this I just copy from the backbench of my memory, I snapped it up, red it somewhere, its none of the items I am mainly interested in regarding Vit-D, so do not read too much into what I say here. But I agree with a professor whose lecture I listened to some time ago and who said he would bet a large amount of money that the pharmaceutical industry would not be able to come up with an active substance from its laboratory in the next 15 to 20 years that would even come close to the versatility and relevance of vitamin D for countless metabolic processes in the human body. It's not a magic bullet - but it's a real jack-of-all-trades and hard to overestimate. - I believe the same applies to a high omega-3 consumption and strict omega-6 avoidance, a high (!!) salt consumption, and iodine+selenium. Sugar I think must not even be mentioned anymore to be a problem, everybody should know it by now. The lesser, the better. The idea is: insuline-spike-avoiding eating habits.

[Skybird]

The information I’ve read it’s a nicotinic acid which causes the flush and it’s that acid which is supposed to help reduce cholesterol levels. While no-flush niacin works as other B vitamins to promote energy metabolism it has not been shown very well to have an effect on cholesterol levels.

But as always check with your doctor and make yourself aware of the side effects. They’re always pros and cons to everything we shove in our pie-hole. :salute:
One never stops learning, this was new to me. Luckily I can report that when I took very high doses of B2 and B3 for 3 months when I started to go deep into Iodine, that I suffered no flush at all. Never, despite significantly high doses (for 3 months only).

Pills that dont kill make you tougher! :haha:

[Skybird]

How the Americna way of life makes peope fat and lets them die younger, in a nutshell. What the author misses in his list is the relevance of sugar, sweeteners, fructose and glucose, soft drinks, and HFCR (high fructose corn syrup, the worst of all sweet stuff).

https://www.nzz.ch/international/fettleibigkeit-in-den-usa-amerikanischer-lebensstil-macht-dick-ld.1721041?_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_sl=auto

[Rockstar]

How the Americna way of life makes peope fat and lets them die younger, in a nutshell. What the author misses in his list is the relevance of sugar, sweeteners, fructose and glucose, soft drinks, and HFCR (high fructose corn syrup, the worst of all sweet stuff).

https://www.nzz.ch/international/fettleibigkeit-in-den-usa-amerikanischer-lebensstil-macht-dick-ld.1721041?_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_sl=auto

One thing about inflation is that it may actually help the American diet. To counter rising prices and help keep them stable companies started shrinking (shrink-flation) the amount of food per serving.

My nephew travels to Europe extensively he told me your food servings at restaurants and stores are normally much smaller than we are served over here. But thanks to inflation we’re getting closer :03:

[Skybird]

One thing about inflation is that it may actually help the American diet. To counter rising prices and help keep them stable companies started shrinking (shrink-flation) the amount of food per serving.

No, it is quite established knowledge that the diet is worse in nutritional value when being poor. You cannot afford better foods then, the crap food is the affordable, cheap food. Also, low income correlates with low education and thus lacking understanding what healthy and what lousy food is. That is the case in every global society where Western food habits have arrived, and you also see it in people who were raised healthily outside the West and then migrated into the West. Especially well-documented is the link between a rise in Western civilizational desease in Japanese who first migrate from Japan (very healthy) to Hawai, and then to the continental US . Certain types of cardiovascular and cancer deaseases they have not or almost not when they were in Japan. After some years in the West, their illness rates have started to rise and reach the same average like the native American population. Further in-depth research has been done on the effects of low versus high carb diet in the West and Asian countries, and in case of Japan the impact of high consumation of "plant oil (West) versus high consummation of fish-and maritime food related fats (Japan) while avoiding plant oil, and then again more research was done related to high iodine intake (Japan) and deficitary iodine intake (America).

Modern Western industrially high-processed food simply is garbage that gets dumped not into the bin where it belongs, but people'S stomach, where it certainly does not belong. People may be well- (in fact over-) supplied with carbohydrates, but are in deficitary supply of nutrients and in oversupply of toxic food components, namely not fat, but sugar/carbohydrates.

And although there is no real consensus what exactly defines so-called mediterranean diet which is considered to be very healthy and is associated with low rates of cardiovascular deseases and diabetes and high age, all the variations of definitions have some things in common, amognst them beign avoiding sugars and too much carbohydrates (pasta, bread), consuming much olive oil and maritime food, fish, only few (sweet) fruits but plenty of vegetables. Also, avoiding industrial plant oils. I see the value of it more in what it avoids than what it suggests to eat.

My biggest points to consider, are these:
- plenty of Omega 3- oil and reducing every practically available source of Omega-6, which exlcudes all plant oils, and I mean avoiding them ALL. You still will consume some Omega.6, and if it is some, then it is oka,y becasue some Omega-6 we essntially need for sure. Just not in relations ot Omega 3 exceeding a ration of 3:1 or so. Most Westsern people have ratios in the range form 15:1 to 35-50:1...!!! That is like rust in your health. It corrodes you.
- controlling carbohydrates - you simply do not really need any, they are not essential. You can live perfectly healthy without any carbohydrates at all. The body just rpefers them for quiock energy-making, but you can as well gain energy from keton-bodies the body makes form good fats. You can healthily live without sugars. But not without fats.
- healthy fats instead: organic butter, organic gee, MCT oils and coconut oi, olive oil extra vergine and of good quality, fishoil, organically raised animal fats.
- not turning vegan and not even vegetarian, but keeping meat consummation modest. Non-red meat preferred, but must not be completely avoided.
- plenty of fish and sea fruit.
- cutting down on everything sweet. I know its hard to avoid chocolate and the likes completely, but at last: cut it down in quantity. I do not avoid it completely, but I have really cut down on it.
- NO SNACKS, at leasts dramatically cut down on sweets.
- Bread not every day, alcohol not every day. If wheat bread, then bread with long dough rising time, else soar dough bread.
- see what it does for you to avoid wheat. Human digestion simply is not amde to digest wheat and related seeds, period. There is no way around this finding. Humans simply are not made to digest ATI, it ALWAYS causes inflammation, in EVERYBODY. A healthy person must not realise it, a weakened person will. Ilove self_baked pizza and bread. But I have reduced it. Bread only every third or forth day. And then either pizza or bread, not both. I also cut down on pasta, which I also love. Hirs eis a new star in my food scheme, and I really like it, its not just duty, but I enjoy it.
- NO SMOKING. Nicotine and added chemical agents NEVER do any good for you. Never.
- Vegetable, fresh.
- Avoid industrially processed convenience food, at least cut down on it in quantity.
- Cut down on cow milk products. I liked pure milk, but for drinking it pure I do not get it anymore, only for purpose-bound use when cooking.
- Avoid milk-replacement drinks.
- Avoid non-fermented soy. The topic is a battleground currently, I know I know - but I have chosen my side against soy. I only do use soy sauce, and would consider fermented soy. And I do no like Miso or Natto, so I do not eat soy at all anymore.
- AVOID "LIGHT" products, and fat reduced products. Its not only nonsense but even counterproductive. And it tastes less. Better watch out for good fat quality in your food. DO NOT AVOID FAT, BUT SORT FATS AND OILS, eat the good ones without bad consience, do away the bad ones. You can loose weight while eatiung good fats, you must not avoid them. You get fat and obese from carbohydrates, not so much from fat. Of course, everything can be exaggerated, even fats, so use your brain a bit - you have it for a purpose.
- NO SOFT DRINKS, no cereals flakes, corn syrups, any stuff of that categories.
- do supplement, learn about it.
- Drink enough water, but ignore calls to exessively drink. Only elderly people and small children have no reliable feeling for thirst and best drink "according to time table".
- Do not exaggerate it with protein. Not avoid it, but not pushing it either.
- Steroids and such things for "sporty people" are NOT considered food supplements! Vitamines and minerals and essential trace elements are.
- Get enough sleep.
- Enjoy life.
- Keep sorrow and anger at bay.
- consider intermittend fasting.

You can ignore:
- salt content, its irrelevant and the low-salt-less-cardiovascular probloems thesis simply is wrong, has been proven wrong, and in fatc is one of the worst cases of data and study forging in the histor yof medicine. That still the opposite is claimed by "heallth authorities" and "experts", is a scandal, if not a cirme. There is NO NEED to cut down salt, that is drivel spread since decades, but the long time does not make it less a drivel. Shake that salt shaker as much as you pleases. DO NOT AVOID salt, you damage yourself that way. Eat as much as you like. If you like it a lot, no problem. Sugar is a problem. Too much omega-6 is a problem. Too much carbohydrates is a problem. SALT IS NOT.
- calls to pedantically avoid ANY alcohol. But do you really need it every day, and drink yourself under the table once a week? Modesty is the virtue here. Enjoy. But dont get drunk.
- warnings of coffeine.
- calls for eating more sweetfruits (contains fructose)

There is so much missionising being done now, so much cult that it all gets turned into, so much zealous pedantery and call for self-optimization. To hell with these people. And much of that is again just a new form of money-making. Or is a simpe new mode/vogue.

Practice modesty with consuming the unhealthy things that nevertheless make fun (sweets). Avoiding those that simply accumlate health hazards over the years (Omega-6 fatty acids). Avoiding fanatism (ideologically founded vegetarianism, veganism). Do more of the good stuff: fish, vegetable, Omega-3, salt, good fats, certain supplements.

And a simple, compass: avoid high insuline spikes and also many insuline spikes. Eat less, and eat less often. Dont eat all day long. Try just one or two main meals instead of three meals plus half a dozen snack times.

Do not eat by habit or becasue "it is the time". If you are not hungry or have no appetite, then simply dont eat.

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But also this:

If you do not enjoy your life, what use then is in having a long life...?

Have fun, whatever fun means for you as long as it is not at the cost of others. And that relates to eating, enjoying food and taste and accept your appetite. Rejoice.

Modesty for president!

[Jimbohere]

My biggest points to consider, are these:
- plenty of Omega 3- oil and reducing every practically available source of Omega-6, which exlcudes all plant oils, and I mean avoiding them ALL. You still will consume some Omega.6, and if it is some, then it is oka,y becasue some Omega-6 we essntially need for sure. Just not in relations ot Omega 3 exceeding a ration of 3:1 or so. Most Westsern people have ratios in the range form 15:1 to 35-50:1...!!! That is like rust in your health. It corrodes you.
- controlling carbohydrates - you simply do not really need any, they are not essential. You can live perfectly healthy without any carbohydrates at all. The body just rpefers them for quiock energy-making, but you can as well gain energy from keton-bodies the body makes form good fats. You can healthily live without sugars. But not without fats.
- healthy fats instead: organic butter, organic gee, MCT oils and coconut oi, olive oil extra vergine and of good quality, fishoil, organically raised animal fats.
- not turning vegan and not even vegetarian, but keeping meat consummation modest. Non-red meat preferred, but must not be completely avoided.
- plenty of fish and sea fruit.
Completely agree on your list. Fully cutting carbs is not that great though, at least for average Joe. But controlling is necessary: a lot of people have insanely imbalanced diet, something like 70% carbs, 10% protein and 20% fat. As long as you do your ratios right(something like 35% protein, 35% carb, 30% fat) you should be good in general. But people really suck at counting their percentages most of the time and end up overeating on carbs and undereating on protein/fats.

[Skybird]

Carbs should be cut down, but I see zero need to also have them at any minimum of 30 or 35%. Cut them down as much as you wish. If not eating bread every day and have a strict control on sweets, softdrinks and snacking, maybe also cutting down on additons to the warm meal of the da ylike pasdta, potatoes, rice, then that alreeady would be very good. No harm in havign all energy comign from fat only, none from carbs. It sjust that a zero carb reigme is hard to sustain, you have to give up too many tasty temptations. That's what made me leaving pretty keto-based status after one and a half year. Result was that I gained 3-4 kilos again, after having lost 15 kg before.



But dont eat often, stop eatign if you are not hungry anymore, do not eat by habit or according to timetable. Do not eat all day long, meals and snacks counted. I uusally cut it to two eatig n time sa day, a ver yloight breakfast at nooon, and a warm mela in early evening. Any desire for chocolate I cramp into the hours near these two time points, so that I have slightly higher insuline on these times, but only two insuline spikes over the day. If there were just one rule allowed , the n nti would be: eat in an insuline-controlling way: Fewer spikes with lower amplitudes. Eat less often. Eat less on the occasion. But do not allow hunger or overwhelming appetite for taste. The first brings you into an emergency metabolic state and you eat less and gain weight nevertheless, the second consumes your longtime compliance until its zero again. Try to cover as much of your energy needs by fats and oils, not by carbs, as your mentality and appetite allows. Do not give in to just every minor desire. And: no treats and rewards, two days starving, rewarding sweet excess on the third. Thats nonsense!

[mapuc]

I grew up with following saying

Eat like an emperor in the morning.
Eat like a Prince in the afternoon
Eat like a poor in the evening.

And eat variated from the food pyramid.

Markus

[Skybird]

I grew up with following saying

Eat like an emperor in the morning.
Eat like a Prince in the afternoon
Eat like a poor in the evening.

And eat variated from the food pyramid.

Markus
You better don't.

Especially not that food pyramid, its prioritizing plenty of what is not good at all.

Good: Vegetables. Fish. A little amount of organically raised meat: little, but regularly. The mentioned fats. Eggs. Nuts, seeds. Hirse. Oats. USE SUPPLEMENTS, but not repalkcing food with them, but as a n addiiton: hence the name: supplementation. Get enough salt - plenty, if you like it and feel like it. Drink not less than 1.5l, if you are thirsty and have appetite for it: more. Do not drink according to timetable: listen to myour body, he lest you nwo when he wanst water. If you take lots of salt, drink more accordingly, that simple it is. Not drinking enogun but tkaing lots of salt is potentially unhealthy over time.

Salt is not the problem, it never was. Sugar is the problem.

A very few fruits only (too much fructose on board).

Cut down potatoes, rice, noodles, bread, wheat, rye, barley, transfats, industrially produced fats (margarine, plant seed oils), milk, soy, sugar and sweets, "stuff that has a barcode on it", industrially processed food, fast food, convenient food, softdrinks, glucose and fructose syrups and HFCS.

Diabetes comes from insuline-resistence. Insuline resistence comes from having too many insuline spikes, and too huge such spikes. Diabetes Type 2 in the very most cases CAN BE CURED. :03: Fat does not make you fat. Carbs do, sugars do. Carbs are sugar, sugar is carbs. Carbs and sugar make you fat. Not (good) fat. Inflammatory fatty acids will make you ill over the years: silent inflammations, chronic deseases, problems with the immune system, maybe even cancer. Avoid them (Omega 6).

Cut down on carbs. Eat less often, and not so much, but do not feel hunger or appetite. Don'T snack. Dont eat alld ay long. Dont travel from one snack or meal to the next all day long.

Tip: if you feel a craving for sweets, instead out a big grian of salt in your mouth. The reward mechnism in the brain for sweetness, saltiness and hard drugs are one and the same.

We do not live in the meideval anymore, we do not do that ehjavy pohysiucal work anymore, do not wear ehavy armour and do not work on the field with bvare ahnds all day long. We must not have their ammounts of calories every day. Most of us SIT all day long. Do you fill your car's tank every day by habit, even if not having diorven anyhwere meanwhile? Gasoline spills over every time, sooner or later your place goes up in flames.



My sins are three: again too many snacks (I love good chocolate and nougat), and too little vegetable, probably too little exercising. The price I pay: after having dropped from 92 to 77kg and staying there for one year, I then got weak again and was less strict, I paid the price and gained 4-5 kg over one year again. This comes from that. It sucks, but thats how it is. I jmkust not have illusions or excuses, I knwo what is happenign and why.

Like a smoker. :arrgh!:

[Jimbuna]

You better don't.

Especially not that food pyramid, its prioritizing plenty of what is not good at all.

Good: Vegetables. Fish. A little amount of organically raised meat: little, but regularly. The mentioned fats. Eggs. Nuts, seeds. Hirse. Oats. USE SUPPLEMENTS, but not repalkcing food with them, but as a n addiiton: hence the name: supplementation. Get enough salt - plenty, if you like it and feel like it. Drink not less than 1.5l, if you are thirsty and have appetite for it: more. Do not drink according to timetable: listen to myour body, he lest you nwo when he wanst water. If you take lots of salt, drink more accordingly, that simple it is. Not drinking enogun but tkaing lots of salt is potentially unhealthy over time.

Salt is not the problem, it never was. Sugar is the problem.

A very few fruits only (too much fructose on board).

Cut down potatoes, rice, noodles, bread, wheat, rye, barley, transfats, industrially produced fats (margarine, plant seed oils), milk, soy, sugar and sweets, "stuff that has a barcode on it", industrially processed food, fast food, convenient food, softdrinks, glucose and fructose syrups and HFCS.

Diabetes comes from insuline-resistence. Insuline resistence comes from having too many insuline spikes, and too huge such spikes. Diabetes Type 2 in the very most cases CAN BE CURED. :03: Fat does not make you fat. Carbs do, sugars do. Carbs are sugar, sugar is carbs. Carbs and sugar make you fat. Not (good) fat. Inflammatory fatty acids will make you ill over the years: silent inflammations, chronic deseases, problems with the immune system, maybe even cancer. Avoid them (Omega 6).

Cut down on carbs. Eat less often, and not so much, but do not feel hunger or appetite. Don'T snack. Dont eat alld ay long. Dont travel from one snack or meal to the next all day long.

Tip: if you feel a craving for sweets, instead out a big grian of salt in your mouth. The reward mechnism in the brain for sweetness, saltiness and hard drugs are one and the same.

We do not live in the meideval anymore, we do not do that ehjavy pohysiucal work anymore, do not wear ehavy armour and do not work on the field with bvare ahnds all day long. We must not have their ammounts of calories every day. Most of us SIT all day long. Do you fill your car's tank every day by habit, even if not having diorven anyhwere meanwhile? Gasoline spills over every time, sooner or later your place goes up in flames.



My sins are three: again too many snacks (I love good chocolate and nougat), and too little vegetable, probably too little exercising. The price I pay: after having dropped from 92 to 77kg and staying there for one year, I then got weak again and was less strict, I paid the price and gained 4-5 kg over one year again. This comes from that. It sucks, but thats how it is. I jmkust not have illusions or excuses, I knwo what is happenign and why.

Like a smoker. :arrgh!:

Try curry, you seldom see a fat Indian :)

[Skybird]

I absolutely LOVE sharwood Corry Powder, mostly use di the midl sweeter one, but sometimes the hot verison, too. I stockpoile it in signficant quantities.

German brands for Curry powder are for the bin. Taste bland, flat and listless like sawdust mixed with grated dry cardboard. Sharwood's is the best I know, I love that stuff.

Curry must not be hot, it is so rich in flavours and fruitness that if it is too hot it blinds the tongue and you cannot enjoy the many aromes anymore. Thats why I prefer the mild one.

When it comes to stimulating fat burning and bile activity, there are better remedies anyway. Milk thistle, dandelion, turmeric, pepperin, various bioflavanoids, vegetable stenols, bitter substances, bitter herbs. Modern civilizational food in generla has way too few bitter substances, but we need them, we really benefit from them.


BTW, in India you have regional pandemics of obesity, it is linked to regions where the supply of bad fats and oils as well as using plenty of wheat and crops is high. I red about it in deNicolantonio's book on fats, but I would need to look it up again, I do not recall the details out of the blue. But fact is India has indeed a very massive and still growing problem with obesity and follow-on heath conditions. It just escapes the eye of journalists since it mostly affects regions that are not that prominently present on TV. The villains are plant seed oils, and wheat.

Thats why I say: avoid plant seed oils completely, all of them, and cut down carbs as much as you feel you can "sacrifice" over time without killing your compliance. Carb-stuff is tasty, that is the rub, isn't it, giving it up is not all that easy. So dont give it up, but cut it down significantly. Have carb-freee days, or complete fastening days. Its not as difficult as it sounds. And no, you do not start to digest your own muscles that way, that is nonsense. Oh boy, doctors of the world, please get back to your senses. I recommend Dr. Fung's lectures on this matter. He just rolls his eyes when he is beign told or asked for stuff like this. Its in this thread, somewhere above this post, early last year I think.

[Jimbuna]

I don't make make curries from scratch any more, mainly because of the wife complaining of the aroma left in the house after boiling large quantities of onions and frying the different spices etc. (funnily enough, curry powder was never an ingredient used that often).

These days I either purchase a takeaway or buy them ready made.

The day before yesterday I purchased the Sharwood one at ASDA and the one on the right from Aldi.

https://i.postimg.cc/G3jW2ybm/thumbnail-IMG-3916.jpg (https://postimages.org/)

[mapuc]

Oh how could I forget that Skybird is right when a spice is to hot it paralyse your taste on your tongue.

I'll never forget the dish I ordered at this restaurant in our Subsim meet in the Netherlands.

Markus

[Jimbuna]

Always have a tomato at the ready (as told my by my old Indian chef)

[Skybird]

Absolutely stunning data! Phenomenal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqzaKro5Bt0

The risk reductions reported in this meta analysis are absolutely awesome.

This is a ver ybig story, at leats it should be, and it should be so sinc eman years becasue I know its not the firts time the foudn such stunning results regarding Vitamine D.

We have a pandemic running in the western world - and everywhere in the world where Western food habits, and especially American food habits with its excessive consummation of sugars, corn syrups, fructose, high-fructose-corn-syrup (HFCS) and so forth dominate people's eating.

And making me giggling again: these studies found no raise in hypercalcemia, no rais ein kidney stones. These are the two oiverkill arugments many doctors still make against prescribing or privately using Vit-D. I called that bollocks three years ago, and it was bollocks already before, and it is still bollocks today. You need to EXCESSIVELY overdose, and over longer times, several months, to have at least the chance to produce these side effects. America, India are terrible palces for diabetes, its expldiouing ther,e and millions do not even know they have it and slide deeper and deeper into it doing all kind of severew damnages to their bodies and organ systems.

YOU SHALL NOT TRUST YOUR DOCTOR BLINDLY.

YOU SHALL NOT TRUST YOU GOVERNMENT'S HEALTH OFFICIALS AT ALL.

Listen what they tell you, but then weigh it, do some research on it yourself, use your brain. Be aware of to what degree big pharama interests and food industry lobbbyism are interfering with policy making and curriculum-forming for university students. On this issue, and many others, governments completely fail us all, and we, the people, pay for it with our health, and shortened life expectancy, and deaths. It gets worse today now that even eco and climate aguments are used to tlel people how to misfeed themselves and run into certain nutritional deficits stemming from a food pratcice that rules out certain things for "the higher cause". Krank werden fürs Klima! could become a German slogan.

Its capital crime at work, plain and simple. Conspiracy to not only protect the profits of the food and pharma corporations, but to even boost them further. At the cost of our health. The little doctor down your street must not even be a guilty one, he just practices what he has been taught when he was a student and had no choice. He is just a human, his day has just 24 hours, and his job maybe did not show up to be like he expected it to become. Also, he is entangled in a network of procedures and rules by the law makers and health insurers that do not leave him too many freedoms.

At risk is your health and life expectancy. Whether you follow the doctor's advice or not - the consequences good or bad will always be lived by you, by nobody else, and certainyl not by the doctor.

Listen, but do not blindly trust into just everything just because he is a doctor. Check. Question. Research yourself.


I have a whole long list of medical topics now already ion whcih I would refuse to just blindly obey the official recommendations and practices and drug advices. Onc you start to do your won research on such things you soon find that it doe snto stop again and that the list of dubious contrsdictiosna nd questionable assumptions becomes longer and longer. First its alarming, then it becomes scary.



There is no reason and no excuse for just blindly trusting.


I learned that at the latest during the Covid pandemic and the way they cheated on it. One of the biggest fraudulent schemes ever in the history of medicine. It took me some time. But in the end I got there.

[Skybird]

"Was haben die ganzen Kochrezepte in meinem Thread zu suchen...???"
:Kaleun_Mad:













:rotfl2:

[Skybird]

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Food/2-lunchables-approved-national-school-lunch-program-served/story?id=97853957


They really seem to hate healthy kids and people if they officially approve this as school food.



:roll:

[Skybird]

Just discovered this channel. Good man, apparently. I forgive his self-advertoizing at the end of his videos. I see no interest conflicts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ctDyQDIWAc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7gDIshc-S0



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XuGx0i5pvo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XuGx0i5pvo)

[Gerald]

https://youtube.com/shorts/gdzGa7euh7g?feature=share
Delicious 😋

[Skybird]

And one thing that was part of my "plan" since long time, but that I have doubled in eating rate: eggs. Over the past 12 months or so i have become a specialist for doing scrambled eggs in various ways (although my favourite version still is a very basic and simple one). Eggs are yummy! I have 3-4 a day.



https://youtu.be/ymt_S3jDXgk


https://youtu.be/YbfzC2fNcyg

[Gerald]

How much cost eggs those days in Germany here is the price 8€/24?

[Skybird]

It depends on the quality class. From 1.80 (factory farming) to 6.00 Euros (pasture raised) per 10 eggs. I try to buy organic when I can and keep the price below 4 Euros. In town these organic eggs ("Bio-Eier" in German) cost more than in supermarkets in smaller villages around. The cost difference can be up to 40% or so. I absolutely avoid eggs from caged chicken/factory farming.


Egg prices have gone steeply up in past 12 months.


People understimate the quality difference that comes from the food the hens eat. Not only is the egg hull thicker with healthier hens, but you get a positve change in several nutrient contents, Omega 3 for example. Animals are best fed with natural stuff they would find and eat all by themselves if they would live alone in the wild. Like salmon should not be fed with soy and wheat, hens should not be fed with soy either. I avoid factory farming when i can, means: as long as it is financially affordable. My price tolerance however has limits. I counerbalance the hgihers costs also by the fact that I do not spend money on many things that in many households are quite common to be eaten and to be had. Softdrinks for example.

[Gerald]

Reasonably and logical explanation and I strongly support this context.

[em2nought]

I've been paying much closer attention to the salt and sugar content of products I buy lately.

I've found that I can substitute Greek yogurt for most creamy things like mayo, sour cream, or cream cheese. I can doctor it up with some dill or chives.

Trying to increase my intake of foods with potassium such as avocado, sweet potato, banana.

Inflation has reduced my meat intake, and upped my bean intake. :D

[Skybird]

To check sugar content, is a good.
To check the salt content is completely unfounded and not needed. Better check for the salt quality, that it is no fluoridated salt, but is preferably natural rock salt (unlikely with industrially processed "MREs"). The myth that salt raises blood pressure and makes you ill, is exactly that: a myth. And it has killed millions.

Also iodine in salt is useless if the salt is put into boiling water, or is heated up elsewise: the iodine then immediately disappears in a puff of invisible smoke. Its way too low quantities in iodinated salt anyway. Iodine should be consumed, but there is no argument that is convincing to think you can do with iodine salt alone. So avoid these processed industrially cleaned and refined salts like iodine salt, but stick with sea salt or better: rock salt, which is sea salt from the very first ocean there was, a sea salt without modern microplastic. :). It contains a lot of additional minerals. Thats why salts indeed can taste differently. I have four different kinds of salt in the kitchen! And I mostly enjoy them pure. That way, I do not eat crackers and peanut flips anymore with all that bad quality fat in them which make them so unhealthy.

The German term is Steinsalz and I just translate it as rock salt, I think the English term is different however, I always forget it.

Just no (expensive) Himalaya salt, please. Big hocus pocus that often does not even come from the Himalaya, and has often high levels of flouride in them too often. Its an esoterically-founded rip-off. And not rarely you risk to also consume a dose of quick silver, lead, heavy metals and other goodies like that with it. It simply is bad, dirty, overpriced salt. Avoid!

Avoiding industrially processed food means you can control the quality of the salt you have in your meals. Quality control: good idea. Quantity control: not necessary, simply let your taste lead you. Take as much salt as you want. - Assuming there are no other existing health conditions in play. Blood pressure is no argument with salt. Thats a modern myth.

Truth is: many people simply eat too less salt!

Its the same like with oils and fats. One must not avoid them, but one must check for good quality and avoid all those industrially processed plant seed oils, trans fats, hardened fats. Seed oils are inflammatory Omega-6-bombs, sunflower oil for exmaple tastes dleciious, but it has a ratipo of O6 to O3 that is in the range of 125:1 to 130:1. Rape seed oil: still 25:1 to 30:1. Corn oil, popular in the US: 50:1. Thistle seed oil borders an assassination attempt: 150:1! And the word bomb you can take literally. Hands off these oils, they are poisonous!

The global pandemic of obesity and Diabetes you can see everywhere where Western food regimes with use of plenty of these seed oils, high carbohydrate intake (including but not limited to sweet sugar, and special focus too on wheat products: pasta, bread etc.) take over. What does Mediterranean diat lack? Carbohydrates. Seed oils. Sugars. Milk and cream. Very rare use: pasta. Some bread. What does it use? Vegetables. Fatty fish and sea fruit. Olive oil, and plenty of it! Eggs. Moderate meat consumption, much less than many think.

If eating normally, fat does not make you fat - carbohydrates do.

[Jimbuna]

Egg prices have gone steeply up in past 12 months.




Along with probably every other foodstuff :o

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKNMtLcEN1k



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmRH6sv9rnA

[Skybird]

The often - and often intentionally - misunderstood Monosodium Glutamate:

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/msg-changing-views-cmd/index.html

To the best knowledge I collected about MSG I say it is harmless and China restaurant syndrome does not exist, not in context of a reference to MSG. However, original Chinese food can contain ingreidnts and comnp0entnet snot used in Wetsenr cuisines and thus being exotic and Western digestive systems not being used to them, sauces, soy- related products , and certain mushrooms and rare vegetables on my mind. I can absolutely imagine that some of these may cause malaise, nausea or similar symptoms.MSG cannot and does not.

When we talk about glutamate, we mean glutamic acid (L-glutamic acid) and its salts. Glutamic acid is a non-essential amino acid that is a building block for proteins in nature and is therefore found in all living things. Our bodies also produce glutamic acid, where it performs a variety of functions, including acting as a messenger. Protein foods such as soya, yeast, cheese and tomatoes naturally contain glutamic acid. It is either bound to proteins or is free.

I come to use it frequently, mainly for meat and fish and dishes that are fried hot. One word of cautioning, tough: the temptation to overdose it due to the fine taste it gives, is high - but resist! I found to have a limit and if I exceed that limit, I may suffer a brief and sudden episode of diarrhoe, not different from eating too much salt in one rush or using too much soy sauce in one meal or too much oil of any kind. Too much is too much, and anything can become too much if you overdose it. So there is no sensational revelation about the danger of MSG in this, it just is like with any other thing you eat. Too much is too much.

I would not want to miss MSG in my cuisine. I do not care for MSG values on food labels. Like salt content, MSG content is not relevant for my health. Sugar content, quality of oil/fat, carbohydrate content and a huge variety of other chemical supplements added in the lab - that are relevant things one should watch out for. For salt and MSG values I do not care.

[Rockstar]

Speaking of mental health…

Corporations have already figured out how to create hits of dopamine through vertical scrolls, bright colors, sugary foods etc. Look at how much time we spend on our phones

https://youtu.be/QuL3wlodJC8

[Skybird]

Intelligent design? I wonder if it is really intelligent what they are doing.

And wasn't balde Runner meant to be a scifi movie only?

One thing is clear. The "elites" are closer than ever to indeed create themselves the obedient electorate that they so much want.

They are now creating artificial wombs, btw. Women as mothers will not be needed anymore. Babies will be in vitro-created "tank-borns".

[Skybird]

On Vitamin K2


In the past month I rediscovered the meaning of the word "underestimating".
I often mentioned in context with Vitamin D that taking it should be seen as a triade of taking D, Magnesia, and K2. But in the vitamin D "scene", in recent two years there has been a creeping raise in awareness of the relevance of K2, which before was seen just as a deputy for Vitamin D: Magnesium acitvates fat-cell-stored Vitamin D into a metabolically usable/active format, D then takes more calcium into the blood from the food in the guts, K2 brings it from the bloodstream into the bones, end of story. For me, this understanding saw a revolutionising in the past couple of weeks, due to reading a book I stumbled over, “Vitamin K2 and the Calcium Paradox” by Dr. Kate Rheaume-Bleue from Canada.


Even without any of these [previously discussed] health concerns, another very compelling factor points to the strong probability that you are K2 deficient: according to recent research, most people are. A 2007 study revealed that the majority of “apparently healthy” individuals have substantial levels under-carboxylated osteocalcin and matrix gla protein (MGP), caused by vitamin K2 deficiency. In other words, most people do not have adequate vitamin K2 levels to fully activate the proteins needed for optimal bone and heart health. If you can be K2 deficient and apparently healthy, then what’s the big deal? Based on the most current understanding of how and why we grow old, the triage theory of aging, undetected vitamin K2 deficiency now will take its toll later in life. Poor vitamin K2 status must be regarded as a serious risk factor for increased postmenopausal bone loss, artery calcification, diabetes, end-stage kidney disease and aging itself.

I have moved K2 since then much morte central into my focus and pushed it to near the top ranks of my nutrients priority list. HJowever, its not to be understood as "take A and B and forget the rest, they are not imprtantr", its always about interactions of many factors, thats why I tell everbyody asking "Do not supplement just this and that, but supplement in full range and width". For exmaple Vitmains D and A are mutally interlinked, somewhat, and if you take big doerses of D and too small doses of A, you can suffer earlier from toxicity of Vtimain D, however the same Vitamine D toxicity symptoms may raise their head if you have too much Vitamine D. And what both do for your bones if both vitamins are present in healthy balance, they cna only do if you have a good supply of K2 as well. And Magnesium plays into this as well. And Zinc. And Bor. You see - its never one or two supplements alone that do the trick. Go all the way, only then you can see all the sights and viewing points.

I very strongly recommend this book, since it touches on a mechanism that is utmost profound for our health and wellbeing, and it gives a great overview over the 70 year history of activator-X, as it was formerly known as, and its importance for a healthy diet cannot be overestimated. A very significant share of civilizational deases are due to malnutrition, especially in context with teeth problems, osteoporosis, arterosclerosis, cardiovascular health issues, strokes, diabetes, etc. I mean I had it on radar after understanding the relation between Vitamine D and K2, but somehow I missed to think it to the real very end and understanding of the conclusions to the full and extremely existential ends. This book has changed it.

The following is a review and overview on the book. I do not know the author of that text, its just what I could find on reviews on the book.

https://lauraschoenfeldrd.com/book-review-vitamin-k2-and-the-calcium-paradox/

A brief summary of the key message:

So, what exactly is the role of K2 in the body? As Rheaume-Bleue explains in a nutshell, “Vitamin K2 funnels calcium into bones to strengthen mineral density and fight fractures while it prevents and even removes dangerous arterial calcification” (p. 4). But what does this mean in the context of the body? And how does K2 affect calcium regulation? Vitamin K2 activates, through carboxylation, a protein called osteocalcin, which attracts calcium into bones and teeth. K2 also activates matrix GLA proteins (MGPs), which remove calcium out of the soft tissues like arteries (p. 12). These K2-dependent proteins are essential for moving calcium around the body, and are regulated by the body’s levels of vitamins A and D. Therefore, when K2 is deficient, not only does bone mineral density suffer, but the calcium plaque that arises in atherosclerosis is inevitable. Your arteries literally begin to turn into fully formed bone tissue, marrow and all (p. 17). Yikes… sounds like this vitamin K2 thing is pretty important.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrGhiS52FUs
For those cautious people with raised eyebrows: I believe that everything becomes poisonous if it is too much. They searched for the toxicity treshhold level of K2, and the stood on teir toes and stretched their arms and fingers over their heads to feel the ceiling, but they did not reach any. No doubt there is a ceiling, but i tell you, it is really damn high, and I am confident to claim that you are most likely find it impossible to overdose K2 and suffer toxic setback symptoms of any kind. No case for that has been described in literature! Thats why I was not hesitent to triple the dose of K2 I took so far. (Interesting side-effect: doing so has almost doubled my tolerance level for Magnesia, and I conclude this again has probably raised my efficiency rate of making use of my stored Vitamine-D reserves). Why I do such "extreme" :) things? Because I red so very often now about food comparisons back then and now, that our modern food, even if claimed to be "organic/Bio", has a content of nutrients that is, four, six, eight and even ten factors below what our ancestors used to eat in food quality (not necessarily quantity!) lets say a thousand years ago. I also cannot rule out completely that my gut health already has suffered and thus absorption of nutrients does not work as well anymore as it should be, reducing further my intake quota of nutrients, and I also consider the deficits I help to raise by still commiting some bad deeds :) relating my eating habits and stuff I eat though I know I shouldn't, and not eating enough of that stuff I know I should eat more of. Well. 50% of 100 is more than 100% of nothing. Thats clever rationalising... LOL

Read that book by Kate Rheaume-Bleue. Its worth its weight in gold. Its available already in many languagesm and was publishe din 2012. Sometimes the structure is a bit on the wild side, means: there is room for improvement in this regard, but she packs an incredible ammount of documented info into a format that laymen can understand and enjoy to read, while not loosing the academically founded fundament , I would claim that everybody can benefit from K2 in our modern malnutritioned world. We eat plenty of calories. But we do not eat sufficient ammounts of nutrients. We are starving while being fed up. A calcium-dysbalance - which K2 is very much about - effects practically every civilizational desease that plagues modern man: bones, cardiovascular system, plaques, diabetes...

If you deal with osteoporosis, insuline resistence, artery plaques, cardiovascular risks and coronary heart desease, consider this book a mandatory reading.

Sad truth is that not just a few doctors are out there who still give calcium carelessly easily, and still mistake the role of Vitamine D and K2 in the Calcium cycle, and still mistake the different role of K1 and K2 and think its all the same. Sad, but true. Be warned. Many doctors have K2 not even on their radar. It should not be so, but it is so with quite some of them.

[Skybird]

On the "Microbiome"


From the NZZ:
When I talk to someone about a disease, it usually doesn't take long before the microbiome comes into play. "I'm sure it has something to do with the microbiome," says the other person, revealing himself to be a well-read contemporary. Because the media are full of it. Whether it's Alzheimer's, heart attacks or rheumatism - everything seems to be somehow related to the bacteria and fungi in our bodies: the microbiome, in other words.

And that is probably not wrong. Just as most things are somehow related to sleep. With stress. Nutrition. Metabolism. The psyche. Medicine speaks of non-specific effects. Which means as much as: We don't really understand the connection.

This is also true of the microbiome - and how it keeps us healthy or makes us ill. This makes good research all the more important. In recent years, research on this topic has boomed. The result is a flood of scientific and journalistic articles. As is often the case with fashionable topics, everyone copies from everyone else, hoping that the facts in the other article will already be correct.

This leads to errors being repeated until they become part of the scientific literature - and no one questions them anymore. No one? In the case of microbiome reporting, two British scientists who are themselves doing research on the microbiome took the trouble to check a few of the most common claims for their truth content. In the process, they came across ten "facts" that they debunked as myths and misconceptions in the scientific journal Nature Microbiology.

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https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-023-01426-7



Conclusions

The microbiome field is broad, and there are many other controversial topics that might also have been included here. However, knowledge is still evolving on many of these; consequently, we have largely focused on concepts where we believe there is a strong evidence base for rejecting myths and misconceptions. Although some of the points above may seem trivial, we argue that the accuracy of details such as these matters. If we are consistently repeating falsehoods about minor details, can our accuracy be relied upon when covering more important matters? We hope that, by illustrating just a few examples of microbiome myths and misconceptions, we can draw increased attention to the potential problems of over-simplification and insufficient critical assessment in the microbiome literature.
Given the many potential health impacts, the huge amount of funding and the keen public interest in microbiomes, rejection of unfounded assertions is crucial if we wish to avoid expending finite resources researching unproductive avenues and undermining public confidence in our conclusions.

[Skybird]

Food from hell? - Fastfood

https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/experts/von-mcdonalds-bis-burger-king-ernaehrungsforscher-raeumt-mit-fast-food-mythen-auf_id_202783771.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Ah, comfortable to see this relaxed practice of plain reason. The branch of ecotrophology usually is intoxicated with hype and hysteria and very bad scientific methodological standards, and that ideologists use health as well as climate as strawman alibis to demand that their ideological worldview should be enforced politically, and that they think have the right to enforce their eating rules on all others does not make it any better.

Sometimes I have a Yum-Yum craving for Pommes Frites with mayonaise. Point is this happens just every couple of weeks, if not months. same with burgers, I have nowaday one or two a year, and then do them myself. Pizza I have more often :D, but then its not just any cheap frozen pizza, but selfmade. Pure neapolitan pizza, plain and simpe. Hot bread with a spread.

Eat different things and not always the same every day. Avoid sugar, corn syrups, soft drinks (now this is the only rule in ecotrophology where there can be no doubt on anymore).Have meat and fish regularly, as well as only few fruits, but frequent vegetable. Check if you can go without your daily dose of white flour products (bread, pasta) , have them occasionally only, not every day. Cut down on your carbohydrates (including sweets), but down't massacre yourself, your compliance will fade the faster the stricter the regime your try to maintain. Ignore demands to reduce your salt, eat as much salt as you like and your body demands, the low salt regiment is a very dangerous, in the end: lethal nutrition myth that still is propagated ground the world, but its wrong and dioes immense harm to millions of people). Have bitter herbs and vinegar daily, these two tastes have almost disappeared from many modern household cuisine, and that is not good. Spices are not only tasty, they often also are healthy. Nothing wrong with having a moderate hotness in your spice selection as well, just dont exaggerate it. Be very choosey in your selections of fats and oils, avoid plant seed oils compeletly and always, also margarine and transfats. But have plenty of oil and fat per day, best in a range of different ones: olive oil, fish oil, pastured gee and butter, cocos oil, animal fats. Be reminded of thaat there is still plenty of mythology in the game when it comes to animals and saturated fats, mostly pushed nowadays by vegatarians and vegans. Its hair-raising what I sometimes read on this topic.

We are not herbivores, and we are not carnivores. We are opportunists, omnivores. We - tremendously - benefit from the consummation of fish and sea fruit and meat. Respect that, its our biology and our nature. Ideology shall have no rights here. Nor a stupid WHO thsat cklaims on the grounds of dubious and badly-made "studies" that "eating meat creates cancer". Total bull. The dose makes the poison. Are there still any poor fools out there who actually listen to these criminally clueless WHO idiots? Actually, they are obscure power politicians that to 85% are financed by dubious private billionaires with their own business agendas for controlling the globe.

Fastfood - food from hell? No. Just dont eat it all the time, but just occaisonally, and I bet most will be fine if not already being adipose or diabetic.

Supplement vitamines (especially plenty of both D and K2, also some A with which caution nevertheles smuist be prsatciced, I think,a nd plenty of C, Bo complex. Minerals (especially plenty of magnesium, and more zinc than they usually tell you), trace agents (selenium, iodione, never the latter without the first, but then drive the dose upwards). Fish oil/Omega 3. Supplement width and in depth. This advice always is valid, no matter what you eat and if you think yor eat healthy or not - do supplement. Most doctors do not know this stuff well, its not part of the studies they learned at university, its kept out of the curriculae, the industry has its hand in there, since it wants to sell its stuff to ill people. You need to gain some base knowledge on all this yourself. Mainstream medicine still is, all in all, very very wrong on this topic. Some doctors know this stuff, feel like a lottery winner if you found one. Expect most doctors still not to know it. The situation is changing, but onyl slowly. Recent new WHO power policy enforcements will feed back badly on this sooner or later, I fear.

[Jimbuna]

CURRY IS KING

[Skybird]

CURRY IS KING
:up:

Currently baking together a Goulasch. Without curry, though...

[Jimbuna]

:up:

Currently baking together a Goulasch. Without curry, though...

The more beef the better :salute:

[Skybird]

A crime story


I can only link you to this excerpt here, paste and copy is not possible, call up this book at Amazon and then open up the reading example page. In that, scroll around one third down and go to the image with the dog and the crippled human legs (reads "Dog with rickets") , that is when the index at the bottom says you have red around 33%, and then read to approximately 56% of the excerpt. You want especially the list with years and FDA attempts.

https://www.amazon.de/Miraculous-Prevention-Diseases-Doctors-Learned-ebook/dp/B07ZBP8QZZ?asin=B07ZBP8QZZ&revisionId=f847573f&format=1&depth=1

What you read is a brief history of the development of hospitasl number sin the US in the last century, and what the consummation rate of Vitamin D had to do with its ups and downs. You also read a - long - list of attempts by the FDA to criminalise the consummation of healthy and therapeutically efficient doses of Vitamin D in an attempt to prevent Vitamin D from sale, or preventing it to be sold without prescription and in minimal doses that do almost nothing, in an attempt to fill hospitals with ill people again so that the financial income situation of these houses was not in danger anymore and the pharmaceutical industry would sell more of its expensive and more profitable "cures" (which in the end are poisons with a long list of side effects).

Its depressing, the criminal energy and the contempt for health and life of millions and millions of people, which is expressed in these criminal machinations, is breathtaking, and murderous. We see a similar behavior again in connection with the machinations around the billion dollar business with the Corona vaccinations. I described the pattenr before in cotnext with the demonzation of iodine in favour of much more expensive synthetic Tyroxin.

I just red this book because it was recommended to me. My thoughts: the author is famous for having undergone a selfmanaged Vitamin-D high dose therapy for self-treatment (with doses that made even me dizzy from reading), and having had a claimed spectacular health success with it, about which he wrote his first book that turned into a huge bestseller. This book here now is - well, there is the form and there ist the content. The content is, as far as I can judge, very good and correct, but unfortunately, the man writes in a very sensationalist and blatant manner and does not meet the formal standards that I actually expect from such a book. Nevertheless, in case of doubt, the content outweighs the amateurish format, and it is not the first time that I have been struck by American authors with this form of authorship, with which they also advertise themselves. What he says, however, is rhetorically attackable by his "boorish behavior", and to allow that, because one wants to write flippantly to entertain the readers, is unwise and scares off many, no doubt, with that he does his cause no favor. Now I know the stuff from before and from other sources and can therefore assess the credibility of his statements. So, he is right, flippant or not. My aim is to draw attention to the machinations of Big Pharma, and the selected text excerpt serves this purpose well. You remember that at the beginning of Corona 2020 I cursed that the German Greens had nothing better to do than to try again to get Brussels to strictly and oppressively regulate all nutritional supplements in Europe on a transnational basis (like they also want to command us all what to eat and what not, this totalitarian scum). Brussels said they just had other things to do, but in truth these machinations have continued in the background, and a new "initiative" to ban the sale of vitamins and minerals or limit them to therapeutically ineffective dosages is already well underway. Pig gang. At the same time, the Greens absolutely want homeopathic superstition to continue to be health insurrance cash benefits, claiming that it has been "scientifically proven" :haha: . It is a ####! I read that in the U.S.A. the sales packages for homeopathic snake waters and esoteric pills, like cigarettes, must be provided with warning notes, which point to their content ineffectiveness.

I hope the Americans torpedoe this EU coup in total. Not the FDA, which is as corrupt and criminal und unscrupolous as the German DGE or ARB, but this pro consumer organisation the excerpt mentions.

For leaving, understand that the same criminal lobbyists conducting these assaults on public health and life expectancy of milliosn and milliosn of people, for profit reasons of big pharma, are the same who massively influence and even formulate the laws affecting health policies, and also decisevly influence the content of university curriculae that determine what medicine students must learn and what not. And then decide whether blind trust in the system and regulators and in doctors is really justified.

When cash money is gone, a ban of such supplements is among the things the state can enforce with the pushing of a button. Halleluja! Paying with card is so cool, is so sexy, makes you being "in"! Become the servant of the month if behaving obedient and servile enough!

[Skybird]

11 Principles perfect food advice!



Vegans and vegetarians must hate this. LOL

https://www.westonaprice.org/11-principles-overview/

I have really nothing to complain about or to relativize. How often does that happen...? :)
I cureently read Weston Price's ground-breaking book from 1939, Nutrition and Physical Degenaration. Donnerwetter...! This will make it on my list of most relevant reads. Thanks to Rheume-Bleue for bringing this to my attention. I more and more learn what a perfectly criminal mafia the food and pharmaceutical industry is. I am not shy anymore to put it like this: they slaughter us.

[Skybird]

Antibiotics - the best option is not to use them if at all possible

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20230825-do-antibiotics-really-wipe-out-your-gut-bacteria


If at all possible (which may not always be the case, to be honest here): avoid. And even if it starts dripping out of people's ears: increase your fighting chances drastically by boosting the immunology of your body with nutrients-rich food and supplementation: there is the quartett of Vitamine D and K2 and Magnesium and Vitamin A, there is Zinc, there is vitamine C, there is Iodine (and lots of it). There is the sunlight giving you (if the light is right...) more vitamine D, interferon, melatonin. There is balancing excessive Omega 6 versus deficient Omega 3 levels. There is Ubiquinol to boost mitochondrias' production of cell fuel ATP.

You cannot reach the required and by vitamin experts recommended levels by eating good foods and organic foods alone. Believe it and live with it - or ignore it at your own loss.

Antibiotics often get prescribed comfortably, sometimes due to laziness, or by habit. This is all so totally wrong. They should be seen as a means of last ressort: but then go all in, and dont step out too early. But as long as the scenario is not this desperate, try to live without them. The evolutionary process has formed for us some splendid means and tools. That we still are here proves that they worked.

And to quote a German well-known expert for Vitamin-D: "No pharmaceutical laboratory in the world will develop a substance in the coming years that even comes close to the qualities of vitamin D." (Prof. J. Spitz: Vitamin D - Wenn es um Leben und Tod geht, 2nd edition, 2022").

Also, we have started to form a way of living that alienates us from the environment that formed us, in which we need to live and to which we are adapted, and without whose many stimuli and natural forces and powers and influences we cannot healthily exist even if we try hard to make ourselves believe by using technology alone we can evade these dependencies, like by magic. We cannot. We will pay a price with our health and life expectancy. thats also one reason why I am quite sceptical these days on the prospect of long-timed space travelling, or living on Moon or Mars. Terranic nature influences us by many of nature's rythms and physical variables, in ways that we have just started to realise as vital factors for our wellbeing.

I am not saying you never need antibiotics. But their overuse as of today is excessive. And for that we all pay a price.

[Jimbuna]

No mention of Vitamin B1

[ReallyDedPoet]

I am not saying you never need antibiotics. But their overuse as of today is excessive. And for that we all pay a price.

Hospital waiting rooms are full of people that if they would just stay home, rest, eat and drink what
they can and need to (food and drink related to healing ), we would all be better off for sure.

[Skybird]

Vitamin K2. Fermented food. Good Germs.

https://youtu.be/qt1OoCX3_0Y?si=kzM7VG1HQ_wAsWDf


High doses of K2 have shown in studies that K2 can not only stop calcification in blood vessels, but can reduce existing calcium plaque by up to 42%. And that was a value reached because the study reached the end of its practice time - it may have been more if they had carried on.
I am not convinced by his recommended dose, however, he says 100 mcgr per 10,000 IU of vitamins D. I say you can safely increase that dose by factors - K2 has no known toxicity and in therapy its being used at doses of up to several milligrams.

[Skybird]

More on K2, calcium, artery plaque. If you are too lazy to read the book by Rheaume-Bleue I recommended above, this is your chance to intake its essence in 15 minutes.
These dat are utmost relevant for everybody's health. many doctors still do not know it, its unforgivable. It damages people's health.
Never supplement calcium and never accept doctors order to do if he cannot give very good and straightforward reason for it. Instead: vitamin D3, K2, A, magnesium, bor, zinc.

https://youtu.be/D_UJaEZe9gg?si=q23mQbhpBGLk8kVw


Edit: more of it. It's so very important.


https://youtu.be/z3njgh2nFRk?si=qF4-amYlyb4Rd9bE

[Skybird]

Oh dear, I have just discovered this man today and already love him, he confirms everything I tried to get across in this thread over the months, he seems to have read the same books like me! :yeah: I will systematically consume all his material - just not everything at once... :)


https://youtu.be/gVsxe9v72C0?si=u_HbmIsASfln1UBl

[Skybird]

On EGGS

Most of my breakfasts consist of 2 scrambled eggs in butter or gee with lots of salt, then fatty cheese, sometimes bacon. I buy 10 organic eggs for 4-5 Euros, while I could buy 10 conventional eggs for as low as 1,29 Euros. And here is why:

https://youtu.be/sMuBY5QpEjI?feature=shared

Edit: Maybe I should have more. And why not, I like eggs, as long as I don't get stared at by two eyes and a beak when I open them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--Rx7EZyC7s

[Skybird]

On STATINS

Terrible nutrient assassin. They are one of the most profitable category of drugs and make the pharma industry very happy. But slowly, very slowly some doctors get suspicious of them. And that is good, just happens not fast enough.

Why I dont prescribe statins for high LDL cholesterol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rymCw1ED5tk


If you take a statin, do these 7 things rioght now!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnS49pMNTww

Statin side effects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgEv-tOAY8M

Do statins actually work?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TypwmEuP4U4


(^ around minute 6: they show the old trick is in action again: focussing the public on relative risk reduction value to sell a new drug, while the real valid info is in the absolute risk reduction value and may show all too ofgten anything but impressive efficiency. I see it since 3 years over and over and over again when I read on oecotrophology, studies from that branch, and discussions. Its underhanded and wants to mislead people.)

Statins are also associated with early dementia and neural degeneration, often become visible first in bad memory, and there is a link to diabetes, as the suggestion of hyperinsuline already implied.

I talked my father into not taking them, mentally he enjoyed benefits from that (he had one mi,d stroke). He is 79.

I think the motto must be: careful with statins, avoid if possible at all, and if you take them, massively (!!) supplement.

[Skybird]

7 HEALTHY FOODS

Would you have expected Hamburgers here? Well, just not any hamburger.

https://youtu.be/BGwb8_hbzUM?si=b3sFJ5NATGmU9zIy

[Skybird]

US and EU food regulations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0iq-7PbOEw


ESPECIALLY bromides are a big health concern.

Anyway, the filthy EU is preparing a legislation for all states, expected in 3-5 years. Their goal is to ban all vitamin, mineral and nutrient supplements under the pretext of wanting to prevent harmful maximum dosages for the benefit of the oh so beloved EU citizens, and to enforce maximum levels that are therapeutically ineffective. They are supported by a rich army of pharmaceutical lobbyists and industry-affiliated "researchers" who know exactly who is lining their pockets, as well as state regulatory bodies that have been infiltrated by lobbyists for years, and state structures trapped in inertia that mercilessly subordinate everything to business as usual and thus to the hoped-for preservation of the health care system. And - homeopaths, who want to get rid of a hated market competitor in the sale of their ineffective hocus-pocus remedies (in the USA, packages must be provided with warnings about the ineffectiveness of the remedies, similar to cigarettes), but at the same time they are not only working for their own profit but also for the profit of the pharmaceutical industry, for which the non-patentable and disease-preventing supplements has been a thorn in the side for decades, and against which they regularly try to take action with fake study offensives, a lot of media propaganda, and court actions as well as influencing the legislative procedures in the individual states. It looks like these criminals are now achieving their goal.

Furthermore, doctors are to be subject to treatment regulations that more or less prohibit them from prescribing vitamins or minerals or trace elements in therapeutically effective doses. They shall rather prescribe "effective" and "safe" drugs, because more money is made with these (you can look up the yearly profit revenue of the pharma industry yourself, you'll be shocked, maybe). This loophole should also be closed for people who want to avoid, by their own responsibility, to be made ill on, because only ill people or those who think they are, willingly buy the products of the manufacturing pharmaceutical industry: drugs with the most severe side effects, with often questionable benefits and often severe health disadvantages and risks to health and life. If, however, it is to be the industry (at least that is the plan) that is allowed to make the regulations for physicians regarding dosage specifications for vitamins and treatment prescriptions, then it is crystal clear what this leads to: highest restriction, and ineffective dosages as the permitted maximum. And the pigs from the EU seem to wave this through. Scumbags. They trample on lives and healths of half a billion people.

Once again, the German restriction wishes in particular stand out, in no other European country are the legally permitted maximum amounts already set so insanely low, as here. Only the fact that the EU-wide mutual "recognition principle" applies, according to which means in dosages that are allowed in at least one other EU country must also be available in Germany, allows me, for example, to purchase vitamin D in a maximum of 20,000 I.U. per pill (in the U.S. there are 50,000) - according to German law it may actually be a maximum of only 1000 I.U.: a child's dose. The dosages for other vitamins are sometimes even more catastrophic.


https://www.klartext-nahrungsergaenzung.de/sites/default/files/2021-04/Hoechstmengen_Europa_April%202021.pdf


The dosages are too low in all countries, much too low. But Germany once again excels when it comes to restrictions. As is actually always the case.

Healthy people are bad for business. Unfortunately, healthy people have no lobby. The citizen is supposed to be sick, clueless and stupid. And those who are not sick are made sick. No system deviants, profit trumps all.



:arrgh!:


Edit. I currently read this (German edition of it), winner of the British Medical Association's Annual Book Award


https://d1b14unh5d6w7g.cloudfront.net/1846198844.01.S001.JUMBOXXX.jpg?Expires=1694211246&Signature=NZ3lZyTanKyAvkUiSotdsrCe0lP-WJVi-pAXvF-1OxmX96m1yPa9vOanR7JnG0VZd7ONKMiLLJ~fsP6CEHVPfLPdr oICmFci4PsVfjsR~eU9TqeSrgiftIXXrCkGfx26ZacgkrfJgsd lYGiPsnkoAp8bXG0OOWsba1MfTPAIi4g_&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIUO27P366FGALUMQ


https://www.amazon.co.uk/Deadly-Medicines-Organised-Crime-Healthcare/dp/1846198844/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1HB1PS6LJQTE2&keywords=gotzsche&qid=1694124833&sprefix=gotzsche%2Caps%2C75&sr=8-1&asin=1846198844&revisionId=&format=4&depth=1


They have taken over the system, from within and from outside. Now they are out to kill any survivors.




Edit 2:


Huxley - Brave New World, anyone?

[Skybird]

Why 10,000 IUs of vitamin D ?

https://youtu.be/11qN7GUuoy0?si=Nb1zhM-vo-rrlR33


Risks?

https://youtu.be/Hjlu-jIY9Ao?si=FwE_D-U2ttVCbcN0

[Skybird]

CARNIVORE DIET EXPLAINED

It is so satisfying to listen to somebody's step by step argumentation and realising that it makes just an awesome lot of sense.

Shifting myself into that direction, too. Maybe my body wanted to tell me something when staying g this disinterested in vegetables throughout my life?
He mentions studies that show that zero fibre is good. One must add however that the number of such studies is extremely low.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfBlM3HfHKs


In general I think too many "experts" out there tend to think they know exactly what our ancestors ate ten and twenty and fourty thousand years ago and how they fared with that and liked it or not liked it. That a millions miliutant vegans want to enforc eon others their deicient and low fun diat on all others doe snot make it better. Ther arugmen that the world must be fed and that we have tio accepot sacifices (in halth) therefore, form bad diet, I do not subscirbe to eitherk becasue I reject reospnsi8blity for 8+ bn peopl on this planet and babies being made like crazy right in afric and other places wehrew they can afford hiuge families the least. Why should I accept rspsn sibloitxy for the fate of a fmaily that ahs nothiugn better to do than to make 15 babies? Honestly said - and I violate many imperial demands that we should and must tick exclusively altruistic all day long - : I do not care one bit for them.

Projections show that until 2050 the produciton of food must be raised by 60%, globally. Guess what that means for food quaslity.


I predict a steep rise of inflammatory deseases, autoimmune diseases, T2D, CVD, obesity and cancer throughout the world everywhere - Caused by vital nutrients defiency, sensitivity to wheat, and carb excesses.



If God had wanted us to graze, He would have put horns on us and put us out to pasture. :arrgh!: It cannot be immoral to eat according to our biological-medical needs, as they reflect our nature. But we owe to the animals we eat that until we slaughter them we treat them well. And we owe it to them and oursleves that we feed them well, according to their biological-medical needs. Soy beans and grains and other garbage food usually is not part of that nature of theirs. It ruins their fat quality as well. The fat that we then eat... Thats why I by now exlcusibeöly buy patrzued mil produzcts and eggs, even if they cost a little bit more. With meat its more difficult, it costs min imum 4 times as much, and then upwards. I accept compromises here. Make me a lottery winner, and I won't anymore.

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/aIg43S5QCIM?si=gK89AptU-QeDzyop

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/jfQypTGt2qc?si=SBThoWHgTnvJGlbb


I cook with coconut oil, pastures ghee and butter, bacon, and olive oil. I like coconut oil, always have it in my coffee, I love it. If you heat it in the pan, it loose the coconut flavour and becomes neutral in taste. In coffee I especially love the taste - to a degree that I do not drink coffee without it anymore.


Trying is believing!

[Skybird]

I have to grin all the time. :)


https://youtu.be/fDqL3boEm7U?si=-gBkTJBtCEzDV5ux

[Skybird]

Sweet Sweetness

When I started this Thread, I had a posting on sweeteners, which was pretty much confused and clueless. I want to correct that with this link, which does an excellent job in listing the surprisingly many sweeteners there are. Myself, I have come back to use sugar for the most, and limit its use as much as I can. I use Aspartam only for Belgian waffles and pancakes with lemon juice, and how often do you have that? Sinners day, once every two months or so...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcnGmKi3xms

[Skybird]

Tja... I just repeat two things. 1. Don't trust your doctor blindly. 2. The pharma industry is your worst enemy.

it's highly unethical, it's highly immoral, but it's not illegal.Well - welcome at the scene of the crime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT18fL9OopQ


If you signed in for studying at Tafts, I would consider to change that for another place. :) Somebody has them deep in his pockets.

[Skybird]

Plants are trying to kill you.

After his arguments you see the topic of eating veggies with other eyes.

https://youtu.be/j1cqNDDG4aA?si=-FazSyBCmZyiIO0R

[Skybird]

WHO censorship more and more gets enforced, deviating, well founded arguments get increasingly suppressed. Since some months already I got the impression that videos on the health and diet topics I am interested in, disappear, go amiss. John Campbell got warned and censored by YouTube already, and now this guy shares his fate.
The industrial political profit complex has started to carry out its threats against the health and wellbeing of people. And the EU and the US currently work on the legal groundwork to ban all alternatives to pharmaceutical heavy drugs to prevent people from escaping from the profit grindig of the pharmaceutical industry that has obviously many many decision makers in its pockets. At all our cost in health and life expectancy.

https://youtu.be/ETonDtzkETw?si=RnOxtnmC1Gb1OxpS

In this context listen in again what the man tells about this BS scoring system done at Taft University where he graduated. It's oscene. They put the nutritional value of kellogs fruit loops over eggs and meat. At 00:01:30. I mentiion this exmaple becasue ti shows especially obviously where the jopurney is going. When people's health is up agaunst priofiut itnerests, people loose, when it is up to the profiteers to decide. I also remind of the piece in the March edition 2022 of the BMJ which I have linked several times since then in the Wuhan thread, "The illusion of evidence-based medicine".


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT18fL9OopQ

[Skybird]

I know ken berry since three years or so, I like what he says by content, and I like the straight way he Puts it. He is a medical practitioner, i have red his book Lies my doctor told me. Chaffee I just recently discovered, a US neurosurgeon that has had a Saturn-V like Start to the top ranks of my appreciation list. I have ordered his book.


https://youtu.be/xzy3RtjJHFg?si=-MbdvHfzlGe3Ftpl

[Skybird]

This is a remarkable 90 minutes documentary on the obesity pandemic, and how not and how to tackle it. Very good.


We dont seem to grasp the very real threat to ourselves and our love dones (...), the largely preventable deaths of three to four hundred thousand people who die every year from disease caused by the diet they eat every day, is about one hundred 9-11s (a year), essentially the same as one 9-11 every three days yera in, year out, with no end in sight.


https://youtu.be/7Y_1fiN-1SI?si=dSqHqu6ibGU8_0ZN

[Skybird]

Most of the foods we eat today, just until recently did not exist. How can somebody the claim they are oh so healthy to us?


https://youtu.be/6vwdQx-b_bg?si=bI0TO27h7PvG2EXg

[Skybird]

Another new name I stumbled over.


"The goal is to not eat while your body is feeding you." Brilliantly put.


https://youtu.be/9DLWzpWogsU?si=MbJgtY2_dsC4Va1-

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/oLrhvM-AXmE?si=xdtnkYb83DdNtRXB

[Skybird]

Yum yum BACON

https://youtu.be/sZiHxSzs3F8?si=huB02WvdvfSLkuCK


Yumyum! Any questions?

[Skybird]

There is a - very good - little booklet in circulation by Dr. Anthony Chaffee, "Why we are carnivores and how plants try to kill you". Its an Amazon-released book and contains only four edited transcirpts of four of Chaffee's most famous and comprehensive podcasts. If you listen to these, you do not need the book. But I find it helpful for reference, since it costs not all that much anyway. The four chapters link to the following four videos.



"Why we are carnivores"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-WUb3mJEso


"Carnivore for Beginners. How to start a carnivore diet"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8ns1j28vhc



"Plants are trying to kill you!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mbf5DYYXZsc



"The hard fact about cancer and diet. (With Prof. Thomas Seyfried)"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ebPZP9hBPA

[Skybird]

Seed Oil Apocalypse


A passionate and excellently researched presentation of the cases against omega 6 and industrially processed oils. Don't eat this shjt. Its industrial poison.



https://youtu.be/7kGnfXXIKZM?si=gNFtrwEiPwTE_Y0U

Avoid at all Cost.

[Skybird]

How much carbs is too much?

Bad news, folks - practically almost anything.


This might be the best presentation of issues with sugar that I have so far heard and seen. Straight, no-nonsense, well-founded and researched,yet accessible. Very recommended.


The internet can be marvellous. As one commentor on that video puts it: "Internet medicine appears to be years ahead of conventinal medicine. In the case of carbohydrate effects I'd say 20 years ahead."
So I guess, but cll it even 20-30 years. Its often said it takes one generation for a medical dogma to change.

Which means they have one reason more to censor free internet, like they increasingly do. Always under claimed best intentions, of course.


https://youtu.be/e2g-OW-NZcY?si=J5ayzs22-oP_vgIH


"Inside the mitochondria (food) is about science. Outside the cells food has become about politics, money, and emotion. That's nonscience."

[Skybird]

The American Heart Association was called into life by Proctor&Gamble when they came up with Crisco...?
That explains a lot of the criminal drivel the AHA tells the people, dont you think?


We have a comparable isue with the DGE, The German Nutrition Association. They tell people an awsome lot of bull to keep them away from gettign healthy and not needing to buy expensive pharmaceutical drugs anymore.


DONT TRUST CLIMED OFFICIAL AUTHORITIES. DONT TRUST ANY DOCTOR JUST FOLLOWING THEIR SCHMES AND ORDERS. tHEY WILL GET YOU SUFFERING AND SHORTEN YOUR LIFE EXPECTANCY. dRASTICALLY.


https://youtu.be/Q2UnOryQiIY?si=zT8gCOA0IcVOCqWd


when you heard her comments on the restaurants in the last quarter of the video, you will never easily say bon appetit in a such a place again. Myself, I avoid restaurants since years, and even more so with economic worries they have and that force them to make "compromises" in their kitchen cooking. I also have become EXTREMELY choosey with the fats I eat.

[Catfish]

Interesting, but modern Margarine does not have solidified oils, it uses unhardened oils :hmmm:
https://schrotundkorn.de/essen/margarine

[Rockstar]

One of my favorite salads is wilted lettuce. A head of lettuce, chopped bacon, onion, and a little heavy cream, vinegar, and bacon grease. After watching the last video I don’t feel guilty now for enjoying it so much.

[Skybird]

One of my favorite salads is wilted lettuce. A head of lettuce, chopped bacon, onion, and a little heavy cream, vinegar, and bacon grease. After watching the last video I don’t feel guilty now for enjoying it so much.
Leave out the lettuce and it becomes really healthy! :03:


:D

[Rockstar]

What, no lettuce? I gotta have my rabbit food.

[Skybird]

However, if going carnivore or Keto, of course you can exaggerate the total ammount of fats you consume. You tend to eat more fat in the conversion phase at the begining when you teach your body to remember what ketosis is or that fat actually can be used as a source of energy - most organs and tissues in the body DO NOT need carbs for energy production, only a very few, a very very few need glucose indeed (and its not the brain). That little glucose needed then can be provided by the liver, it must not be eaten, so: still no carbs needed.

After this phase, you gotta cut down on the fat bombs a bit, else - you gain in weight while believing you eat healthy and all that fat is good for you. It is, but evertyhing can be exaggerated. You then can for example start to cut back on the additional fat you maybe put on top of that fatty piece of juicy fish or steak, and maybe you do not want anymore to put that extra large dose of cream into your coffee, and add that extra slice of fatty cheese. However, I would always make sure the meat I buy is fatty, not lean (thats why I do not buy filet). Eat when you have appetite and are slightly hungry, the hunger is what is to be avoided, and when the feeling is good again nd the food does not taste as delicous anymore as at the beginning of your eating, this is probably a good opportunity to simply stop eating. Natural, eh?

Keep things simple, dont overdo the clever food managment. Have some simple prinicples reflecting the idea of it all, and these rules then follow. Just cut extremely short the carbs, always, and avoid industry oils and fats. Nobody needs carbs, really nobody. We lived for most of our species' existence without carbs. We are made for not needing carbs. They damage us. That simple.

The more urgent your doc insists you should eat carbs a bit and fruits and veggies and cereals, the more urgent it is that you leave him behind and find a better one. Dont try to convince him or her or try to fight, just do not come back once you have left on your last visit. He either cannot know it better since he did not grow beyond what the industry-lobbied curriculum at university told him, or the industry has him in its pockets.

Day 11 of my Carnivore experiment. I love it! I must acept longer ways to get the meat I need and want, some supermarkets do not even offer meat in pieces anymore, only ground beef and pork.

Yesterday, I got a little weak and made rum in the fidge by - eating a Turkish flatbread. I roated it. I put my beloved nougatcreme on it, piece by piece I bit it off and enjoyed the atste and chew on it - and then spit it out. :haha: Serious. The chemical taste signals of sweetness may have triggered an insuline reaction nevertheless, but I expect it to be lower and also the bad fliur and carbs do not end up in my stocmach. What is not there, cannot be metabolized.

I do not plan to repeat this, I wanted to clear some room and did not want to throw it away "unenjoyed".

However, in egenerla ma sweet tooth has become smaller. When it calls for sugar, it gets some salt instead. The appetite for other things I like, pasta, pizza, is surprisngly low now, is declining. I observed that already two years ago when I was on keto for the better part of that year. I must, however, really cut back on that new beer, Grevensteiner. Its a heavier, naturally cloudy, very delicous landbeer, dark and "full". I am still too scared to check for the carbs content, but I am certain even one bottle is off limits. That summer is over and temps drop a bit will help me.


BTW, my weight is in free fall. :yeah: And I suffered just one day from what could have been "keto flu".

Dammit, this is a Borg weapon! Resistence is futile.
https://i.postimg.cc/PJQ4djwK/grevensteiner.png (https://postimages.org/)

[Skybird]

What, no lettuce? I gotta have my rabbit food.
Sure, go ahead, eat your rabbit. :O:

[Catfish]

^ ^ Reminds me of this caféteria feeding experiment :)

[Skybird]

Vitamin C, the elephant in the room

On this topic, corrupt politicians and industry lobbyists have been united in eternal coitus for many decades. There would be so much to report, maybe I will write a longer essay just about it, but that would be a full-length task. Everything that proves the effectiveness of vitamin C, in literally thousands and tens of thousands of studies and many individual case reports, is mercilessly suppressed, hushed up and ignored by pharmaindustry and politics and conventional medicine. We know many, many cases, in which a hospital preferred to let a patient die, although his relatives demanded a high-dose vitamin C therapy, and it was refused, while elsewhere patients with comparable symptoms received just that vitamin C intravenously in high dose and practically within hours, sometimes within a few days completely healed. After two such demonstrations in New Zealand in 2010 or 2012, the FDA in the USA banned the use of the corresponding Vitamin C preparation, and shortly thereafter the ban on even producing it followed. The pharmaceutical lobby obtained a ban on the sale of vitamin C in the USA (i.e. what the EU is now planning for ALL vitamin and mineral supplements, and especially for vitamin C and D), I believe sometime in the early 1980s, but there was so much resistance to this that the ban was overturned and instead a federal law was established which prohibits such bans and incentives. Since then, three dozen or more lawsuits have been filed by the pharmaceutical industry, and with the help of corrupt Congressmen and corrupt Senators, initiatives have been introduced to overturn this law and instead ban vitamin sales in the U.S. (as well as Australia banning the sale of boron shortly after a doctor demonstrated that this dirt-cheap commonplace remedy massively improved patients' bone health in conjunction with calcium metabolism, vitamin D and K2).

It is an inhuman crime, which goes not metaphorically but literally over corpses. These machinations kill tens and hundreds of thousands every year and plunge millions into illness, suffering, pain and financial ruin, not to mention the shortening of life spans.

A crime against mankind. A crime against humanity. Murderous profit greed. And a huge conspiracy to hide it from the people. Brainwashed doctors (university curriculae), hospitals (business interests), politicians (cluelessness and corruption) and pharma lobbyists (corruption), they all sleep in the same bed together.

Studies are available, as with vitamin D. Tens of thousands of them. This is all known for decades - and it is mercilessly held under seal and lock, is concealed. The profit interests of the pharmaceutical industry are above everything, above everything in the world. And above everyone.

Introducing two videos with Thomas E. Levy, one of the world's most prominent vitamin C researchers (who was sanctioned by the government during Covid for curing Covid patients with a successful vitamin C-based treatment approach and foregoing the expensive drugs of the industry - that's just not right!) Two of his books are entitled "Primal Panacea" and "Curing the Uncurable", and are both available in German. Reading them is hard to bear, because you get a hint of the true extent of the crime that corrupt governments and the pharmaceutical industry are committing against all of us. Levy paid the orice for his convictions, has been massively attacked and ridiculed. He refused to fall silent.

This gives a deep insight into the biochemistry behind the function of vitamin C and why it is so omnipotential. Considering that this is quite theoretical and , well, biochemistry, it does a good job to explain all this in an accessible format that the layman can understand. And boy, is that awesome stuff. Incredible!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vyQaKewB6Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnl_euYq8yY


The guts has a limited tolerance for Vitamin C in most of its formats, we have lost to make vitamin C in our bodies, but we ionc ehad this aibliy, like many mammals and boirds still can. They use to spike their production in case of illness or injury by two digit factors and produce up to 20, 30 grams (!) per day then. Humans should have minimum 6 grams (!) on a day in their blood, but achievign that with food or supplements is practically impossible, thats why in case of emergency interventions injection is the method of choice (but almost abnned in many hposital and Er rooms, and if not then the vitamin C is not available there). Humans suffered form a genetic accident there that depleted them of the ability to form it in our bodies liek so many other mammals can.

I used to have one knife-tip of ascorbin acid rhwn I studied and later on, that was the dose I could tolerate without needing to hurry to the restroom, however, when i got the flu, a virus infection or something, that toolerate dose wen tup to up to a third of the usual cans they sell ascorbinacid in and that contain susally 100gr ! Means where I usually tolarted maybe 2gr or so, I suddenly tolerated up to 30 gr or so. Now does this tell a message...?!

However,m we canhelp our intestines by using liospmal vitmain C. This is Vitmain C "packed" into a lipid that helps it to freely travel throuzgh the gut'S walls and the bloodvessels and the into the cells. It reduces tolerance obstacles by factors and drmataivc laly raises the amount of vitamin C available to the body. Levy writes in Primnal Panacea this: that 1000 mgr of liposomal Vitamine C translates into 3000-4000 mgr usual ascorbinacid powder, 2000 mgr liposomal Vit C is like 8000 to 10000 mgr of powder, and 3000 mgr liposomal vit C is like 12000 to 18000 mgr of powder.

I have three such capsules per day. Like Linus Pauling, who by now is fully rehabilitated after they they tried to destroy his reputation, he also took 18000, but that wa snot my orientation. Its best to distribute any consumption of Vit C in any form over severla small doses over the day.

I word of respect and praise and thanks to every doctor out there who resists to all this!

You want to eat healthy regarding Vit C ? Forget it, you cannot, you only get a tiny tiny fraction of what the optimal dose for you per day would be. Mind you, we lost the ability to make Vit C in our bodies, but that is describe dot have been a geneticla "accident", no evolutinary design. It should not be like it is now. Now we have to live with this loss.

In my experience, all doctors I ever were to in all my life and to whom I mentioned Vitamin C were completely ignorrant to Vitamin C and just mildy smiled. Condescension pure. I'm very angry about this arrogance. Even my dentist who is Vitamin-D friendly - does not want to hear anything about Vitmain C. Its hilarious - and at the people's (dramatic) health cost.

When the doc tells you we need studies first and we do not know - he either is lying, or he is uneducated. We have the studies. Thousands and thousands. Since decades. We do know. Its just that he does not know - or pretends to not know. Get another doctor. We do not need to wait for further evidence, its all there, since a very long time.

I really fear what the EU together with pharma lobby and the Greens wants to do in bans on all these vitamine supplements. I fear the worst. We will know in 3-5 years. The Greens are in it becasue their ideological bias, health shall only come from eating green leaves and being vegan, and using homeopathics. They claim to fight against the hiuge profit interests of the supplement pricuers, but what huhge profits in Europoe at least, Germany? If there were huge profits in it, the pharma industry already would have hijacked the market completely. But you cannot - yet - establish copyrights on nutrients, there are no price fixings and thus no huge profit margins possible.

[Skybird]

The Health Industry lies to you

10 Minutes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQYqeFzXP28

[mapuc]

My Motto:

"It's not the question about how long you have lived, but how you have lived"

Markus

[Skybird]

Mine too, somewhat. However, genetically we are hardwired to have a life expectancy of - 120 - one two zero - years.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTS2fd3kE9I


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Day 12 of my carniovore experiment. More and more I no longer want a breakfast of eggs and cheese and bacon anymore, just coffee and some cream. I use to have that at 11 or 12 a.m. The warm meal of the day is around 7 p.m. Always a steak, and then some changing addings like patties, chicken breast, today it was a pan of ground beef with gyros seasoning. Carnivore is becoming a habit, and I truly enjoy it this way. Its a subjective statement so you must not believe it, but it seems to me that this new diet regiment also feeds back on my mental state, I seem to get calmer, more grounded, my blood pressure drops a bit further. Former playful interests moved into the backgroudn, I feel more desire and the energy for learning new stuff. I read books all day long if I do not go out and kwiggle like a crazy. Strangely, absolutely no interest in my beloved nougat. I also stopped sweetening yogurt and coffee (mildy). Weight drops, slowly, but apparently constantly, I try to count out simple days-to-day changes in the water metabolism.

And the taste of beef does not get boring. But I want to start experimenting with more - compliant - toppings to add some variety there. My beloved Ketjap Manis unfortunately is a No Go due to its high sugar content. The gyros spice was a good idea. Will mix that with cream next time.


I feel stronger, though I am certain that physically I am not, I feel (even ore) self-relient, I think its more a changed attitude of mine. This all may transform from a diet into a lifestyle. And maybe that is good. I'll see.


At next full moon I plan to test the new wings that grow on my back, and I am increasingly attracted by night activities. I also noticed that my teeth and nails are growing. I feel they want to be brought to adequate use.

[mapuc]

It would be an equation no one can solve

Does a person live longer, if this person is happy and eat what s/he like most ?
Or
Does a person live longer, if this person eat healthy food ?

Of course if a person live on fast food every day-Their life would be very short.

I say it is a balance of what you eat. I eat fast food-Mostly Pommers every 3-4 month apart.

Markus

[Skybird]

The only questions are two:
does one live an enjoyable life while one lives; and

does one have the cognitive and physical fitness to care for oneself, still.

And in the end, that again is just one question. My goal is to live autonomous and more enjoyably than sad or angry, that is what that health trip of mine is about. I am not about extending life, but extending life quality and health.

That is also due to past serious and mysterious, never correctly diagnosed health issues I once had with my neural system that caused severe pain attacks and apparent neural degeneration for which they had no answer and idea. I usually do not talk about this. I never got a fitting diagnosis. I lived for many years with the expectancy that I would not reach statistical average life expectancy of white males, and they told me that at the time and day I now write this I maybe already would not even be here anymore.

Maybe I will die earlier than others, nobody knows what happens next. Point is I have none of this neurological problems anymore, and I do not think about it anymore. Maybe 100% happiness is more than just the absence of pain and misery, but the absence of these two in itself nevertheless is a big Go-go! :yeah:

This is also part of the explanation for why my trust in doctors is so limited.

[Skybird]

WHO censorship more and more gets enforced, deviating, well founded arguments get increasingly suppressed. Since some months already I got the impression that videos on the health and diet topics I am interested in, disappear, go amiss. John Campbell got warned and censored by YouTube already, and now this guy shares his fate.
The industrial political profit complex has started to carry out its threats against the health and wellbeing of people. And the EU and the US currently work on the legal groundwork to ban all alternatives to pharmaceutical heavy drugs to prevent people from escaping from the profit grindig of the pharmaceutical industry that has obviously many many decision makers in its pockets. At all our cost in health and life expectancy.

https://youtu.be/ETonDtzkETw?si=RnOxtnmC1Gb1OxpS

In this context listen in again what the man tells about this BS scoring system done at Taft University where he graduated. It's oscene. They put the nutritional value of kellogs fruit loops over eggs and meat. At 00:01:30. I mentiion this exmaple becasue ti shows especially obviously where the jopurney is going. When people's health is up agaunst priofiut itnerests, people loose, when it is up to the profiteers to decide. I also remind of the piece in the March edition 2022 of the BMJ which I have linked several times since then in the Wuhan thread, "The illusion of evidence based medicine."


https://youtu.be/_4eOpZOLTDo?si=mhjIKLH5TLpWNHSz


They want you sick to buy their crap drugs and dirt as food. All this is intentional, the lies on "healthy" carbs and harmless drugs and censorship of internet to prevent people getting the information and the banning of real food and real cures. They want you sick, weak, helpless and servile - and then throw you into the grinder to make as much coins of you as they can.
When you poison people, push them inti desease and illness by the many millions, cause costs for the common wealth in the range of three digit billions, counting all secondary and follow on costs as well, and bring people to a drastic shortening of their life expectancy, then this simply is mass poisoning and mass murder, plain and simple.

[Skybird]

Wheat

Einkorn, an old wheat strain: 14 chromosomes. Modern wheat: 42 chromosomes, plus artifically increased loads of plant-inherent pesticides an d phytines. Go figure why people react with bowel problems, autoimmune and chronic desease to it. Our guts simply is not made to digest this, and it still has not figuredout how todo it. Will take us some more tens if not hundreds of thousands of years.

https://youtu.be/J3l_gQFFNqM?si=zY5rEFdd9csdIJrS


The to-go-to book on grain and wheat deseases is this. The author teached in Mainz and Harvard, runs wordwide uniqpe special ambulance for just these in both places, and is seen as one of the globally leding top experts on the matter. For laymen the book is a bit demanding at times, but it can be done, also, it does not compare to a Tolstoi novel in size. I read it two times in a row, however, to complete my understanding of it.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YFS6PTV/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=C2MYGRO18CGT&keywords=schuppan&qid=1695470539&sprefix=schuppan%2Caps%2C212&sr=8-1

[Skybird]

I did not know that Kellogs was memeber of the adventist church, promoted the garden-of-eden diet and from that fundament had veganism starting into the world. Religion was not on my mind when thinking about food problems today. I should have known it better, hostile that I am to rligion anyway.

They tried to silence this guy, they investigated and tried to persecute him. Thankfully he is a damn bloody stubborn guy. We need desperately more fighters of his stubborness.
About the hidden underhanded influences that are brought upon us by the Industrie. And only because Mr. Kellogs was member of a fricking relgious cult. [strahlkotzen ein, unbegrenzt]
From 00:15:30 on, its a crime story, and if you think of it, its frightening.

if not to say: terifying. This cult practically ownsa the cereal and soy industry of the world, and thinks that if all man has becom vegan this will then cause Christ' return.

We are in a very deep heap of global poo. Religous crusaders joining arms with proft -greedy predators. I did not know this background of all this, and who does anyway. I am in shock. Kellogs, you freaking idiot shall be cursed for all times to come.

Whenever I run into cultist religion, it ends ugly, just every single damn time.


https://youtu.be/8e1hoIFzn4Y?si=62WxlkAiou2FyepA


Day 13, the Steak with normal cream plus Dill and Gyros spice. It was all melting on my tongue - A revelation!

[Skybird]

I can just highly recommend and urge to read this story and take note of it. It affects you whether you want it or not, and effects us all. To our worse. It should frighten you becaue it tells a story about powerpoltics of the most malicous sort I have ever seen or heard of. Alone that the Adventist church and the Coca Cola, despite their very different interests, become allies in a crusade to submit all world to veganism and now hjave decisive influence on the medical and food regiments aroudn the world, should make you feel frightened.

Vested Interests and Religious Ideology have created our dietary Rule-Books


https://isupportgary.com/articles/the-plant-based-diet-is-vegan



Religious Ideology, with an anti-meat agenda, and the Corporate Food Industry have formed an alliance over the last 80 years to create our low-fat/high-carb 'Plant-based' dietary and health guidelines.
This unlikely partnership is becoming stronger than ever and manipulating health education on every level to the tune of 'Exercise is Medicine™' and 'Lifestyle Medicine' with a cereal/grain/soy bias and an anti-meat, anti-dairy agenda.
The introduction of the terms 'Exercise is Medicine™', 'Lifestyle Medicine' and a 'Plant-based diet' have not evolved. They have been deliberately inserted into our health vocabulary, allowing 'prescriptions' to be written by health professionals encouraging people to 'move more' and 'eat less... meat'.

The Corporate Food Industry has been health-washing the 'Exercise is Medicine™' and 'Lifestyle Medicine' mantra to allow discretionary foods and sugary drinks to be part of an active and balanced lifestyle, placing the blame for poor health outcomes on an energy imbalance - too many ‘Calories In’ and not enough exercise for ‘Calories Out’.

(...)
'Lifestyle Medicine (https://record.adventistchurch.com/2018/02/20/churchs-goal-to-be-world-leader-in-lifestyle-medicine/)' on the other hand, is based on the Ideology of the Seventh-day Adventist Church including the 1863 Health Reform visions of their Prophetess and the subsequent Church doctrine around the (vegan) Garden of Eden diet for Salvation.
It is important to clarify right at the beginning of this article that the 19th Century Adventist 'anti-meat' message was never about saving animals from harm, nor was it about climate change. Meat was considered a toxic stimulant that corrupted moral values and led not only men, but women and children to the act of 'Self-Vice'. Meat was considered a stimulant equally, if not more harmful, than alcohol and tobacco ... but more on that later.
(...)
If you do not know the Adventist history, and perhaps even if you do, I recommend you make a cup of tea/coffee and settle in for a long read as I explain how Religious Ideology created the processed cereal and soy industry's and the Temperance Movement​ created the perfect environment for the sugar industry to become the solution to alcohol.

Have Aussie GP's become Medical Evangelists for the Seventh-day Adventist Church?


https://isupportgary.com/articles/aussie-gps-medical-evangelists-for-sda-church

[Skybird]

Biden-Harris Administration endorses Adventist dietary beliefs for ALL Americans

https://isupportgary.com/articles/biden-harris-administration-endorses-adventist-dietary-beliefs-for-all-americans



Ellen G White taught it was the duty of “God’s Chosen ‘remnant’ Church” to actively engage in public-health education to warn others of the physical dangers of eating flesh meat and violating the Laws of Nature, authored by God himself.
Medical Evangelism (https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/30.2330?hl=medical+evangelism&ss=eyJ0b3RhbCI6MjAzLCJwYXJhbXMiOnsicXVlcnkiOiJtZWR pY2FsIGV2YW5nZWxpc20iLCJ0eXBlIjoiYmFzaWMiLCJsYW5nI joiZW4iLCJsaW1pdCI6MjB9LCJpbmRleCI6MTl9#2332) is considered the Right Arm (https://www.adventistworld.org/how-adventist-medical-missionary-work-protects-the-mission-of-the-church/) of the Seventh-day Adventist Church and their Health Reform (https://www.andrews.edu/~jmoon/Documents/GSEM_534/Class_outline/09.pdf) message ‘The Entering Wedge (https://digitalcommons.andrews.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1730&context=dmin)’ to open hearts and minds to their version of the Gospel, and to hasten the return of Christ (https://www.amenaustralia.org/).
The belief that 'fruit, nuts, and seeds' are the ‘sinless’ God-Appointed diet for man to attain 'character perfection' disregards Genesis 9:3, where God made a Covenant with Noah: -“Everything that lives and moves will be food for you; just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you all things.” It disregards the books of Leviticus and Deuteronomy from the First Testament, which describe the slaughter process of animals, listing 'clean' and 'unclean' foods. It completely disregards the entire Second Testament of the Bible, where Mark, Chapter 7, Verses 18-20 explains that "what goes into a man cannot defile him; because it goes to the stomach, not the heart".

The Seventh-day Adventist Church’s 'Health Reform' beliefs also disregard ancestral diets which included animal proteins and fats, and evolutionary hunter-gathering.
Dietary teachings that allow the Church to profit from the sales of 'health food' (https://isupportgary.com/articles/alternative-meat-news-or-advertorial) made in their 20+ Global Food Industries - to take the place of 'flesh-meat, eggs, milk, and butter'.

ACLM - Medical Evangelism


The American College of Lifestyle Medicine (ACLM), founded in 2003 on the Loma Linda University campus as the Christian Association of Lifestyle Medicine (https://isupportgary.com/articles/coca-cola-and-lifestyle-medicine-an-uncomfortable-partnership) (CALM), has become the perfect vehicle to ‘reach the cities (https://www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/1977/02/keys-to-city-evangelism)’ and share the Seventh-day Adventist version of the Gospel using ‘Medical Evangelism’.
Is this what will be taught as “healthy” for everyone… ‘a whole-food, plant-predominant eating pattern’devoid of animal proteins and fats? A one-size-fits-all?


Where is the transparency for those who do not ascribe to the dietary teachings of the Seventh-day Adventist Church?


Georgia Ede MD makes the point (https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/blog/diagnosis-diet/201901/eat-lancets-plant-based-planet-10-things-you-need-know); - "A vegan diet is nutritionally deficient in the following nutrients; -Vitamin B12, Retinol, Vitamin D, Vitamin K, Sodium, Potassium, Calcium, Iron, and Omega-3 essential fatty acids. The consequences are likely to be lifelong and cause poorer health outcomes, especially for children and adolescent girls, who have begun menarche."
"An important consideration is that grains, beans, nuts, and seeds - the staple foods of plant-based diets - contain phytate; a mineral magnet that substantially interferes with the absorption of essential minerals like zinc, calcium, iron, and magnesium, and oxalates; mineral-binding compounds found in a wide variety of plant foods that interfere with iron absorption."
Is this what will be taught as “healthy” for children… ACLM's 'whole-food, plant-predominant eating pattern’ devoid of animal proteins and fats?

[Skybird]

Alaaaarm! Panic...! Read Meat causes inflammations - NOT! Drama! Madness! Doomsday tomorrow!

I believe by now that scientifc standards have been deliberately destroyed so much that one should not call it science anymore, but opportunistically driven hear-say. This true for medicine as well, and here especailly for ecotrophology, the carricature of "science" of food and nutrition. I think half of the work done is not worth to be flushed down with your poo in the loo, your garbage simply is to good for that.


I stumbled over that meta-analysis before, but never found it again. Its worth to be taken note of. The only idiots who react with inflammation to red meat are missionsing vegans and militant vegetarian. Beyond this group, there is no evidence whatever for a link between red meat and inflammations.


https://youtu.be/t07DSzDMN4s?si=zNfFMHaSzQu1floM

[Skybird]

The Uphill Battle

https://youtu.be/maE7YRve_kY?si=uqVrrpS_tyXZ5WZG


Its always the same few names of the same few people showing up - globally - when investigating who is propagating toxic food and wants to block research and clarification and tries to intimdate critics, character-assassinating them, economically ruining them, corrupting free science and corrupting policy-making processes, and pushing a toxic food regime on people. Since a hundred years.

Their victims count by the millions and millions.

[Skybird]

LDL Cholesterol, Statins and then some more

https://youtu.be/pEFPx97-Ws8?si=qFM0_VL1KHBnVcA_

[Skybird]

A nrando find, a list with oxalate content of various food. Quite extensively. From the UCI Kidneystone Centre.



You want to keep oxalates in you food low.


https://ucikidneystonecenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Oxalate-Content-of-Foods.pdf

[Skybird]

Nebulising hydrogene peroxide:


https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2886084&postcount=11313

[Skybird]

Red light reducing glocuse levels and improving mitochondrial health

One of the most relevant single topics in health that I learned about in recent years: mitochondria.
I support them with 2x200mg of Ubiquinol (reduced Q10) per day. Bad news here: its expensive. I occasionally took red light baths, though not due to knwingthsi stuff so well, but simply it feels very well. The lamp sits on my office desk, and when I do some PC stuff, it sometimes on for a while, lighting my face and hands and lower arms.

Try it! It really gives a nice, good feeling additional to the medical benefits described in the video.


https://youtu.be/6Win49aeh8A?si=DhkvzIsRRmtvGQLm

[Skybird]

Even earlier than I feared, it starts, the EU has started to issue the list of future banned supplements and herbal remedies and the Germans are once again enthusiastically the first to start implementing it. I thoght it woudl take another 3-5 years, so it was written somewhere. To my surprise, the first to be hit are the alternative practitioners, who complain that some plant-based remedies, some of which are very important in daily practice, are no longer available. Suspiciously, however, Big Pharma is already providing substitute drugs that are not herbal but artificial, partly addictive and, like all medical drugs, more or less strongly side-effect-ridden. Its so good to have these bastards taking care of that we do not harm ourselves. Getting harmed by a professional is always better, since he has the expertise to do so.

Of course, the EU says that this is only for our protection. Who believes it is a complete idiot. The crime syndicate of the pharmaceutical-political complex seems to have prevailed all-embracing. I fear the very worst in the coming weeks and months.

For those supplements that are important to me, I have already done some research on the British Amazon site. The container sizes often are much smaller, and more expensive, and the dosages are usually lower. The situation in Germany is better (still, as long as it still lasts). This is going to be laborious, more expensive, and the question is how closely customs will look.

Thanks dirty EU, now I have one more personal reason to hate your guts. Not that I would have needed another reason for that.



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I have completed day 19 of my carnivore experiment, which was initially scheduled for 30 days. I feel great about it, and eat every evening with an appetite and enthusiasm I haven't felt in many, many years. I now LOVE my meals, and fully focus on them - no TV, no music, just me and my meat. :D No trace of weariness. The morning scrambled eggs with bacon and cheese is now mostly not done, at most the bacon I fry, as a candy snack without candy, just the pot of coffee with cream, unsweetened, is obligatory, I need no coffeine kick (and do nto feel it), but I like the smell and taste. No problems during the day. Surprisingly, no craving at all after the weaned tastes of nougat, bread, pasta, etc. This is very different now than about two years ago when I did a just under year of relaxed, not too fanatical keto. I think that is because you eat more different things with Keto than with Carnivore diet: although daily also about meat, but not so much, but mainly vegetables. This may be a reason for remembering blocked out pleasures and then to starve, also I always experienced vegetables meals since all my life as extremely unsatisfying and have afterwards the need to reward me - so: craving for what is forbidden but one would like to eat. My evening carnage leaves me completely satisfied, I don't need or want anything else, and this feeling lasts the whole night and the following day. No craving for anything. Fat layers on the face and limbs have decreased significantly, unfortunately not yet so much on the belly, but a little bit already.

I enjoy that my shopping has become so incredibly easy, that's great! I also spend much less time in doing kitchen work.

And to make this clear, I am not really "fat", just very mildly overweighted, currently 82 kg at 177cm, BMI 26. Over two years ago I was at 92 kg, and then dropped in 6 months to 77, keto-style. If in one year I end up in the low 70s, I would be satisfied. I have no urgent health needs, I have time.

Subjective self-perception is: I feel real great. I have already decided to extend this experiment to 90 days at least. But honestly said: I think I stay with this new way, and make it not a diet, by a lifestyle. It just ticks all my boxes. And if I have not mentioned it :) : I do not like vegetables anyway, generally speaking. Never did.

[Skybird]

Very threatening, sinister, fascist.


https://youtu.be/UScNk39xUTk?si=O84F-kqVQDJvVnVU

[Skybird]

Is sugar addictive?

(in a nutshell if you do not want to watch the video, the answer is Yes. :) )

https://youtu.be/VBmvvP53818?si=Zrpg9DWfwh9Qith3


The sugar industry in the US makes up for just 2% of the agricultural and food industry in the US - but pays a third of all the donations from that sector to polticians.


https://youtu.be/f_gkkgAr3DU?si=uQUS7VVY7_HHNoUR

[mapuc]

It's interesting to read about your Meat diet and reading about the battle between Illustrated Science and our Vegan organisation.

I.S had an article where it said that meat was important for our health and this Vegan organisation is saying the article is sooo wrong.

Markus

[Skybird]

It's interesting to read about your Meat diet and reading about the battle between Illustrated Science and our Vegan organisation.

I.S had an article where it said that meat was important for our health and this Vegan organisation is saying the article is sooo wrong.

Markus
If you eat only meat, you get all nutrients your body needs, if you only eat plants and grains, you stay deficient, there are nutrients that you need but plants and fungi do not give you. If you eat only meat (fish), you may get some of these nutrients like Vitamine C or A in small amounts only (yes, meat gives you both), but the fans of Carnivore diet argue that the whole metabolism of a pure carnivore changes (by self observation I can confirm that by tendency at least) and then needs less of these nutrients than an omnivore, which makes sense since an omnivore/herbivore eats plenty of botanic toxins his body then must try to cope with, for which much of these nutrients are consumed, and still our "adaptation" to this unwise food is inadequate. Also, anti-nutirents in plants serve like a magnet for the body's stored nutrients and minerals, and deplete the body of these. This effect is not present if you avoid plants. This is what it is about: plants are poisonous for us, in many different ways. They contain

- 1 million of plant-made pesticides,
- a three digit range of active carcinogens,
- anti nutrients as described,
- fibre (which not for no reason in German are called "Ballaststoffe": ballast stuff),
- phytines,
- phytates,
- oxalates,
- tannins,
- hormone dispruptors,
- goitrogens,
- light-sensitivity enhancing toxins,
- general toxins,
- nightshades,
- lectines.

None of that is good for us, none of that we have the anatomical, metabolical, digestion-related means to deal with. Its species-inadequate food. Our body from head to toe identifies us as a non-herbivore, and as a carnivore. We eat this nature's wonderful and admirable huge arsenal of chemical weapons day in day out, and then wonder why we get immense autoimmune problems? Nutrient defiencies? Inflammations? Bowel troubles? And the rat tail of follow-up health problems from these?

Dont be angry at the plants. They want to get eaten as much as you or I. :03:

On fibre, some plant eaters considering themselves ahead of the veg-crowd argue the fibre is not eaten for us, our metabolism, but is the food needed for the microbiom in the guts, because that feast on fibre. However, that microbiome changes dramatically when you stop eating pants and only eat meat and fish, it is then made of bacteria that do not need and cannot make use of fibre. In other words and hear the message: YOU DO NOT NEED FIBRE if you eat a species-adequate diet that reflects our carnivore nature. In fact, fibre does damage to our guts, exhaust it due to the overtime work it must do, and then you wonder why you have pain and cramps and form diverticles and inflammations in the intestines. Really...?

This was day 20 of my experiment . Preparation of the meal in the kitchen has become a routine that now runs automatic. Shopping has become so comfortable, and easy, and I save so much time. I still have work to do, however: I must lower my beer consumption, however, it feels great, but is too high. No, I am not an alcoholic, and I am NEVER drunk, but in summer it can get 4 icecold bottles (0.5l, both alc-free white bear and alcoholic beer), its not about the "dangers of alcohol" for me - its about the carbs in it. I hope with falling temperature my appetite for it wanes, and I can stick more easily to water. Or my body plays tricks on me, it cant get the sweets (absolutely no sweetness from chcolate and sugar since three weeks, zero, rien, nada, not even in my coffee) , so it takes the alcohol and the carbs from the beer as compensation, and makes me craving for these .

While I think of that last statement, it acually makes an awesome lot of sense, I realise. In the brain, the neural structures rewarding us with pleasure if we take sweetnees, salt and heavy drugs - are one and the same structure, not three different ones. Thats why it is dangerous if a baby gets born with the Mum not having taken in enough salt : the baby starts into life with a very sensitve salt sensor then, and that can also make it more prone for becoming diabetic from taking too much sweet stuff, and even can become addicted to heavy drugs. They showed some years ago in a statistical metaanalysis that this indeed is the case, salt-deficient babies have a higher probability later in life to crave for sweet taste and drugs and thus getting problems with that. Thats why in Germany doctors are called by law for mandatorily telling expecting women that they must raise their salt intake. But almost no doc does it, they are intimidated by the salt-blood-pressure thesis (which is totally wrong).

On a sidenote, like with salt: same with iodine, moms give all the few iodine reserves of theirs to the baby short before delivery and afterwards are "empty", and literally totally empty of iodine. Cases of sudden death short after delivery might be related to this. Expecting women should drastically increase their intake of salt and iodine, for these reasons. In some Asian places, after giving birth they immediately get a soup that is loaded with plenty of salt and seafruits and kelp with fantastic doses of iodine.

[Skybird]

Published Research on Carnivore, Ketogenic and Carbohydrate-restricted Diets

https://youtu.be/pdxFW3PVNhg?si=k9Gcf28lLYco7-J9


The hard science of your metabolism in keto, carnivore and carbs

https://youtu.be/zj6m-17lt-w?si=IwOajKfnvE9s-iHT


Very different to the garden-of-eden diet propagators and missionising vegans and vegetarians (and not few of them indeed do not leave others alone but want to missionise them), I do not want to take CHOICE away from anybody, vegan or low carb or carnivore. Do what pleases you. But I want people to gain a bit of education on what they opt for, and what it means and what it does.The choice they make I will leave to them. Really, very different to what "they" want to do to people like me: we should be depleted of choices, and should be enforced to do like "they" want it. Mostly by systematically eliminating alternative options to their views and ways, and make it impossible to go an alternative route to their decisions on what is best for us, in their limited view. Thats what religous sects do: they allow only their own wordview and recipe for salvation, and they suppress any other.

Leaving people the choice - that is what it is about. And the medical establishment, the industry, the governments, the adventist sectarian background lobby want to take choice away from us, and make alternatives unaffordable for everybody.

[Skybird]

What happens when Vitamin-D gets overdosed by a factor of 4000 (!) ?

Not much, and nothign that was irreversible. This has happened in Tukrey 2013/14, a manufacturer had an error in his production and babies in hopsital got overdosed with ill-made vitamine D preperations that overdosed the wanted dose by factor 4000.


Sorry, this video is in GERMAN only. You can use translator subtitles, the man speaks slow. Raimund von Heldern is a medical doctor and the most profound Vitamin D expert of German tongue. He released studies together with Prof. Grant from the US who is an academic heavyweight for this matter, and he was the first author worldwide who many years ago described a consistent, comprehensive vitamin-D deficit syndrome and it specific symptoms. He knows his stuff, I mean.


https://youtu.be/aSvmUA26pfQ?si=WahZFPFyjtU6yP3n

[Skybird]

The Corruption of Nutritional and Medical Guidelines

Asked Goldman-Sachs: "Is actually curing people a sustainable business model?" And the answer was: "No. Curing is great, but you dont create return customers that way."
(00:31:00 ff)


These guidelnes are not just wrong, but they are intentionally corrupt. Even though Coca cola alone spends 11 times the amount of money on nutritional research than the NIH annually, its not just the big food companies behind it. Behind it from the beginning, and even founding some of the largest Big Food companies like Kellogg's and Sanitarium Foods, lies another entity who has influenced the guidelines, the WHO, the McGovern report, and even the curriculum of nutritionists and lifestyle medicine doctors. Thats my new best friend, the Adventist Church, crash-born into existence by Ellen G. White at the turn of the 19th to 20 century. The result is a totalitarian global mission to enforce veganism for the beliefs a religous minority sect that battles listfulness and sexual drive and thinks Christ will return to Earth when all humans eat vegan, that has established its influence deep inside US governments since decades and in international institutions, bypassing and thus eroding democratic legitimation, and making people sick and ill and shortening their life expectancy by the guillotine of so-called civiliational deseases. This sect teams up with big food industries and their poisonous crap food as well as the murderous profit greed of Big Pharma, corrupting science and medicine and not only making people ill, but helping to make sure they stay ill, forever.

He nicley wraps it all up in one speech, and then some Q&A.

Stop allowing to get fooled, guys. Take back responsibility for our own life and your own health. Internet medicine on prevention, nutrition and curing the cause instead of just doctoring on the symptoms and make money wih that, is many, many, many years ahead of what most practicing doctors know. And then there are even those doctors who carry their ego on golden plates before them and demand everybody they pass to fall on their knees and bow their heads. - There are many reasons why over the past years I have become so extremly mistrusting doctors in general, and its not just due to Covid. By far not.


We have no health systems, we have sickness systems, and the system itself feasts royally on our illbeing und does what it can that things stay like that.

https://youtu.be/qRmQb0LDd2s?si=F_nrgyYDbEfrN59I

[Skybird]

And off I go into the fourth week of my carnivore experience. I bite into the bitter apple now and also scratch coffee and both beers, with and without alcohol, from the card. Only sparkling water. Im not happy with this, but I want to see if the effect especially on weight is as big as they often claim. It could very well be so, so...


Today I hate myself... :D

[Jimbuna]

It must be the boredom :)

Tonights meal is an Indian Chicken and Mushroom Curry ably accompanied by a football match on tv and beer and rum and pep.

[Skybird]

CANCER

or: When stupidity becomes pandemic.

Seyfried is a world-leading expert on this explanation model for cancer, and I think two things: its revolutionary and thus a threat to the establishment and its power, ego and money interests, and he is so very very very very right. Not so much genetic predisposition. Cancer is a metabolic desease.

But all research and development is being done on grounds of the genetical hypothesis, and real big money is beign invested in a bid to see even bigger profits form it one day. Guess what this means? Everybody and everything resists to alternative better explanation models.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN58tZ6dspA

It also once again reiterates the enormous importance of a good mitochondria health. A top priority in my book since three years.

[Skybird]

The pattern is being repeated all over the world.


https://youtu.be/N9QD9Nf4YH8?si=g7XYOXohp7oPK4hr

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/cyhGRZVzbag?si=fHHSyG5_2WUgo1VX

[Skybird]

Day 24, if I am not mistaken. I am still not tired of my meat plate in the evening, I have ribeye and entrecote in turns, and mostly two patties. Going without coffee is easy physiologically, since I never needed nor felt the chaffeine kick, but I miss the taste. Without beer is a bit less pleasurable, though, and thats why I deiceded to cheat here, got a new brand, which is very low in carbs, only less than 1.5 gr per 100ml, so I stay below the limit of 10 gr per day rule. In a week I will be through with this "experiment" of 30 days, but as I already said, I will stick with this anyway, I like it. I enjoy the meals so intensely like not since many, many years. Got myself a new pan, an grill pan (with "stripes"), cast iron, I could swear it gets hotter for some reason, the meat on the first two tries was no longer mediuam rare, but well done - with same oven settings and same timing. Need to reduce the time with this pan. The patties I leave in the pan a bit longer, since it is ground beef.
Weight dropped below the 80 kg mark today. :yeah: For dropping weight, this method definetly works, slowly, but constantly. But its not that alone. I feel better, and seem to need less sleep. Also, it does something psychological, making me fell more - hard to say. Truly woken up. Grounded, confident, calmer. Not sleepwalking through the day.

[Skybird]

A genocidal syndicate named FDA/Big Pharma
Surpressing a cure for cancer since 40 years. (Also supressing the truth about vitamin C. Surpressing the truth about vitamin D. And so much more.)


I did not know this story, until I red about it in a book by Thomas E. Levy, Primal Panacea (2011). I was shocked. Thje aftermath iof this echos until today and still kills scores of patneonts, because the FDA wills the needless death of thousands of patients every year to protects the profit interests of Big Pharma that has completely corrupted it.

I can only reocmmend to make yourself familiar with this case (if you are American and of advanced age maybe you remember it from your time of havign been a young adult), it hammers hoime a scaring message still valid today, if not even more so today. While I type this, the eU mulls fzurtehr stseps tpo comeplete this conspiracy, and the US must have already signed more laws since Obama'S first law and that he and the US is obligated to sign under the imperial rule of the Codex Elementarius. Its meant to turn if not all of us then at least most of us into slaughtering cattle for the pharmaceutical industry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_7LZ8GLerI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBAU7zZY164

Homepage

https://www.burzynskimovie.com/

This is not a goodnight story.

If you have not the time, then ypu at least should read this, an excerpt from Levy's book that tells Burcynskis story on just 4-5 pages. Its a free ebook online book viewer.

pages 75-80

https://pdfcoffee.com/primal-panacea-thomas-e-levy-md-jdpdf-pdf-free.html

and while you are at it, this - pages 14-17 - illustrates how the system stomps with its feet on your health and life.

[The page numbers relate to the small viewer window on the left side, not the text on the right side.]


This is no conspiration theory and no nutjob story. This is real.


It snot just the USA, and not just the FDA. Other nation's medical boards and food associations and nutrition associations and medical associations are of the same evil, wicked breed. Totally corrupted, the whole system is designed now to allow corruption being pushed the the possible maximum. This cancer drove its claws deep into the whole world. Everyday politics with their soap opera content and scandals and party rivalry are just panem et circensis to distract the people from what is really going on. And most people buy it, swallow it, and totally believe in it. But its a fabricated reality only, like the drug dream of a junkey, and thus irrelevant. The figures appearing in this hallucination are not the real dealers and their masters controlliung them form behind the scenes.

Year after year, millions of patients suffer serious complications and side effects from the drugs they are given. Every year, hundreds of thousands of patients die from these drugs - not from their illnesses! -Whether or not they are dosed and administered correctly and according to instructions. Insiders say the number of those who die from complications caused by improper administration is at least twice as high. For decades, a nutritional doctrine has been propagated that does exactly the opposite of what it promises. For decades, people have been poisoned by it downright and suddenly, they are pushed into pain, suffering, financial misery, social exclusion, until they finally got brought to an unnecessarily premature death. In view of such blatant numbers of victims, one can only speak of genocide. What else could it be called...? A "crime"? No. Mass murder it is, in order to enrich oneself at it.

And those at the top - they know it. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

[Skybird]

Censorship

https://youtu.be/C1IjOHUYqMw?si=ZXubApDhKIwKqOlK

Needlessly to say: it's not just the

US, but it's everywhere where the Western junk food Regime is in Rule.
These predatory companies and religous ideologists need to be brought down - else they will bring down us.
The vaccine conspiracy, the latent changes at the WHO, the pushing of veganism, food corporate interests - its not different things, it all belongs together, is all details of one and the same plot against mankind.

[Skybird]

Are you smarter than your doc?

Personally I think that on Topics of Food and nutrition the internet and social platforms as I formation sources have left classic medicine behind by 2 to 3 decades.
Not to mention the criminal energy and malicious intention of our enemy, the food and pharma industry.

I strongly recommend the book by Dr Ken Berry, Lies my doctor told me LIN (http://https://www.amazon.com/dp/162860378X/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=9PNVPU3VLQ0P&keywords=Ken+berry&qid=1696619721&sprefix=ken+berry%2Caps%2C211&sr=8-3)K (http://https://www.amazon.com/dp/162860378X/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=9PNVPU3VLQ0P&keywords=Ken+berry&qid=1696619721&sprefix=ken+berry%2Caps%2C211&sr=8-3)


https://youtu.be/sNz2gWqL0Ng?si=s7nWRFuuSTUT7yos

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRmQb0LDd2s

TIMESTAMPS:


00:02:50: Meat has always provided essential nutrients in the human diet,

00:07:00 Dietetics association of Australia (DAA) are highly compromised,

00:13:20 Seventh Day Adventist ideology underlies plant-based movement,

00:18:00 Seventh Day Adventists own plant-based food companies

00:24:45 The DAA attempted character assassination of orthopaedic surgeon Dr Gary Fettke for successfully treating his diabetic patients with low carb,

00:29:42 Majority of nutritional research is funded by industry and is highly conflicted,

00:32:30 Carnivore is a human species
appropriate diet,

00:44:10 End of talk, Q&A begins

[mapuc]

I remember you had mentioned something about salt and how much one could take without hazarding ones life.

Found this article-Who says one should limit its salt intake to a min.

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/salt-reduction

Markus

[Skybird]

^ WHO. Compromised. Don'T weaste your time with them, they are "deep industry". 85% of their budget comes from corporates and prvate trusts and foundations. Have you nothign learned frome their recent power grab?

They are criminal and deeply anti-humanity. Phjarmsa lobby, cereals and grain and sugar and food lobby, and the 7trh day Adventists (which control most of these grain and cereals and soy industries).

I find a video on salt (again).

Edit: that was fast, two of my faourite health professionals on youtuber, of the one i have three books, of the other half a dozen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f8VAK-K1A0


DiNicolantonio wrote a whole book about salt, "The Salt Fix". I can only recommend it. Cleans up the many lies about it.Salt'SA hkistor yof the past 100 years read slike a criome storyx and a pllti thriller. It seems the whole food business is a crime story and a religious crusade. Read the reviews on British or US Amazon, both rate it 4.6.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Salt-Fix-Experts-Wrong-Eating/dp/0349417385/ref=sr_1_1?crid=24HL950CG7FN3&keywords=the+salt+fix&qid=1696879014&sprefix=the+salt+fix%2Caps%2C80&sr=8-1


For my own part, since I boosted my salt intake to huge load, for the first time in my life my heartr ate dropped to nromal levels. It was insane (at rest 110 and higher, for almost all my life and already in my youth. Now it is in the range of 65-75 - without exercising effects.)


The salt-blood pressure hypothesis is wrong. As simple sa that: WRONG. Has never been proven right. Was proven repeatedly to be wrong. Add it to the many lies they told us about food in the past century or so. Eggs. Butter. Meat and fat. Margarine. Crisco. Sugar. Carbs. Fruits. Glucose. Plant seed oils. Will you please stop listening to these liars, finally? Its another crime story about money, donations to universities, prestige, career, reputation. And the sugar industry.



The WHO's agenda is corrupt, corrupt corrupt. I cant say it any more clearly. In the future, if the WHO gets its way, I and anybody risk legal punishment saying that this frankly.

[mapuc]

^ Toke my time to watch your video all 37 minutes.

I'm really confused.

Here is what I know-It's important to keep a balance of salt in your body.
This balance depends on how much you weight and how much you exercise.
(If I remember correctly, that is)

Markus

[Skybird]

Assuming you have no health conditions affecting your kidneys:

your kidneys can excrete several hundred times as much salt as modern man eats nowdays, that is what evolution has made it for (has to do with the animals going from the oceans onto the land), that is easy exercise and absolutely no problem.

We know that before electricity, food was conserved, amongst several methods, by placing it into salt. Due to that and by knowledge from written historic witness accouts, people in Europe, North America, parts of Asia, consumed 100, 120, 140 - up to 200 grams of salt per day. TWO HUNDRED! ;) I assume they drank alot and did not consume it all in one rush. But still - up to 200 gr. That is verified, wriotten records by doctors, chefs, private diaries, etc.

After world war 2, when salt consumption was already lower than in times before, it dropped further with the spread of refrigerators. While the consumed salt levels dropped, the rate of cardiovascular problems and high blood pressure climbed.

There are many countries, so-called salt paradoxe - where people eat extremely salty, with South Korea often listed as the leader, but you could also list Japan, France, Belgium, and others. In South Korea, they have one of the lowest rate of cardiovascular health problems, hypertension and CHD. (coronary heart desease). In the west, people got frenzy over salt and reduce it like crazy - and heart deseases, cardiovascular problem and hypertension explode.

Why is that? Its not the salt, but its what the salt is eaten with. ;)
Healthy fermented vegetables, fatty sea fish, kelp, fresh vegetables in Korea - pizza, fast food, French fries and standard American diet (SAD) in the West. Does the penny drop now?

Its like with the mediterranean diet, I am convinced now that its health benefits are not so much due to what it includes, but more due to what it does exclude (or cuts short): carbs, namely. White flour. Sugar.

65-70% of mankind does not react with significant changes in blood pressure BP when changign their salt regime. Then there are those 15-20% confounders: you reduce their salt, and they go up with the BP. Around 10-15% only react like the salt-hypertension hypothesis predicted, you give them less salt, and their BP goes down. But by what levels? Around 1.5 to 3 mmHg, that is statistically not significant, a random deviation.

What do you pay for with this insignificant "achievement"? Very severe health consequences. The salt in your blood is one of the most vital variables in your body, the body has a VERY close eye on it. If there is too little salt, the body reduces the total ammount of fluid in the blood, reducing its volume and by that the relative share of salt in it rises again. But the blood becomes thicker this way, and the fluid must go somewhere - and it goes into the cells surrounding the bloodvessels, these cells become bigger and hard, pressing against the blood vessel and reducing its diameter. This is called the peripheral resistance of blood vessel. So you have a thicker blood that must go through blood vessels with reduced diameter, that means there is more resistence to he movement of the blood, and so the heart must work harder, and it must beat faster - your heart rate goes up. Now do this a couple of years and imagine if that can be healthy...?! The heart wears our earlier, that simple it is.

How we get lied to and betrayed and how corrupted scientists and politicians and lobbyists try to hide the truth from us and for what reasons, you can read in that book by deNicolantonio, which is cheap to have usually, he has a full chapter of some 40 pages just about the history of salt in the past 100 years. Its a polit thriller and a crime story, and it show maximum dispise for human health and human life - once again, like these people do so very often. Its one of the big health scandals, if not health crimes of the modern era, and most people do not even know about it, not even doctors - they get lied to at university, too, and thinking of these lies as knowledge they spread these lies themselves then, unknowingly and often even with good intentions. This Dr. Ken berry M.D., whom I really like by his style and direct talking, has written ione book, Lies My Doctor Told Me, which I can recommend, and also done one or two videos just about these sort of problems, uninformed doctors. Needless to say, the establishment and medical boards are not really befriended with him.

James diNicolantonio is a research cardiologist and pharmacologist. He has written several books on diet and nutrients and health optimisation, and published over 300 studies and research papers (that is enormous, this guy is not old), and was or still is a senior editor for "Open Heart" which is a specialised sub-publication of the British Medical Journal BMJ. Before his critics just call him exotic and wrong, they better make sure they have themselves what it takes to compete with his qualifications. He promotes Keto diet and supplementations, but without any pushing messianic attitude, which I find sympathetic. Same for Dr. Berry, he first was in his own words "morbidly fat", then became a Keto guy, then moved to carnivore diet.

My other "heroes of health" at youtube are Dr. Jason Fung, a Canadian nepohrologist (fasting, low carb, Keto, obesity, insuline resistence, diabetes), and Dr. Anthony Chaffee, an American neurosurgeon currently practicing in Australia (plant-free diet and carnivore diet). Finally, Dr. Lustig, who is as funny as his name implies (lustig is German for funny), and who is also about much of all this, and namely again the whole issue of insuline resistence and diabetes. I just started to go into the videos by already mentioned Dr. Gary Fettke whom so far I only heard and saw and red in context with his battle against the Australian medical board and his wife's revelations about the 7th Day Adventist Church. I wish I had a doctor like one of these. But I haven't, the last one I just fired. Fortunately, I almost never need one anymore.

The curriculae, the paradigm of medicine, the authority boards and regulators, the diet associations - they all are totally corrupted by now by Big Pharma, the cereals and grain and sugar industry, the food industry. And who owns most of the soy and grains and cereal industry? In the end, the 7th Day Adventist Church that wants to enforce global veganism to kill sexual lust and by doing so bringing Jesus back onto Earth. A madman's LSD dream of the century! Philip Dick couldn't have written it any better.

[Skybird]

Tomorrow will be day 30 of my carnivore challenge. I did it, yeah! :Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:Well, it was not really a challenge, but pure joy. I stick with it, as I already said. I lost 5 kg in weight - FIVE in four weeks! I am below 80 now. I found out that I can easily skip coffee if I allow the very low carb intake from "Caro Kaffee" we call it over here, a surrogate coffee made of barley, rye and chicory, with cream. I am not fanatic about these things, but all in all I must hold the course on low carbs, and no veggies (easy for me, I am no friend of veggies anyway, never was), and no fruits, no cereal products, of course. Spieces and herbs I do accept. I also found a replacment for the high calory beers, Jever light, which has only 1.5 gr of carbs per 100 ml, I can live with the mild taste, actually its quite good, though very light in taste. These are small compromises I accept in order to keep motivation alive and compliance not fading.

But tomorrow I will celebrate, with a portion of Gulasch (self made and very good, two portions left in the fridge), with salted boilt potatoes (first exception in 30 days, so what), and a bottle of the good and fully Grevensteiner Landbier! :Kaleun_Cheers: :Kaleun_Applaud:
Oh, and to my surprise, I have left my sweet tooth. I have not tasted anything sweet since 30 days, nothing, zero, rien, nada. And now I do not even care for it anymore. Biggerthanbig super-good!

I do not count calories. I do not start eating before I feel hungry. I stop eating when that feeling is gone. Keep it simpel, natureboy - it IS that simple!

In general I feel lighter, not just when climbing the stairs, but also in my head, in my mind. I need less sleep, I wake earlier in the morning, and usually rise - that is a premier in all my life, I was always a Morning Grumpy. But I still stay up until 2, 3 a.m. Sometimes I sleep just 4-5 hours now, and feel fine with it. Incredible!

I need to change trousers, my current ones are too wide again. :) I just slipped into the green zone (24.9) on the BMI again. Not that I give too much for the BMI, belly and hip fat is more important.

I now always have meat worth over 200 coins stored in the fridge. I will stick with eating lots of meat t as long as the criminal scum in Berlin and Brussel stills allows it. In the end, that is clear, they want to force everbyody on a vegan diet, on that we cannot have illusions. Except if they get stopped by active resistence. But the campaigning against meat and dairy is intense, and especially here in Germany. I fear the worst. Dairy products, I eat cheese, butter and ghee, all from pastured milk. I get off yoghurt, though, even though it was organic and unsweetend. I realised that I do not need it to feel full, and that I only ate it as a replacement for snacks.

I maintain a 16-8 to 17-7 intermittend fasting scheme. Breakfast consisting of bacon, two eggs and cheese I sometimes have, sometimes not, depending on how I feel that late morning.

[mapuc]

< Thank you for your in-deep answer.

Made me a little wiser.

I think I get enough salt on daily basis.

Markus

[Skybird]

I just corrected the many typos. :)



Salt: just go by taste, not by artificial limitations. There is absolutely ZERO reason to reduce salt as long as you have not really according health issues. Most people are fine, by taste, with 5-6 grams per day, optimal would be 12-17.



I think the WHO sees it as its job to kill people to help bringing global population down,a dne leading the rest into a regime of control and dependency. I really started to think this way. Even more so since the Adventists and the Club of Rome members are heavily engaged in the WHO now. Every nation sane by mind should immediately cancel membership. 85% of the funding for the WHO comes from undeclared private sources.

Adding this to the topic on Dr. Berry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHRUAVJX9L8

[Skybird]

SALT again

Practical advice in ten minutes.
Note that when he starts with the graph, he speak no longer of salt, but sodium. The factor is 2.54,, you gotta multiply. 1 gram of sodium means 2.54 grams of salt.



https://youtu.be/hzpqZrIlctI?si=mOK_G8m9gK4gGCB3


I measure every morning exactly 10 grams of salt. I take care to consume this up until I go to bed. It is a minimum, equaling 4 grams of sodium. Consuming more than that is always welcomed. I sometimes simply drink it, with sweet water afterwards.

[Skybird]

One also learns from listening to the experience that others made with this and that. The comments are worth to read. There are so many former vegans in the carnivore community, they got ill and ended up with seeing the need of a change.


https://youtu.be/Llmbzr9nPZU?si=oFyO0lh3oemtMVGO


I had my 30 days jubilee of carnivore today, abd as I said yesterday, I celebrated it with what to 50% was a sin day. Gulasch with boilt potatoes, hm, yummy yummy! "Fat" landbeer. I am strict, but not fanatical.

[Skybird]

People do not seem to like what the fascist WHO is trying to take away from them - choice - , people seem to not like being sold as lab arts to big pharma. Movements like this alliance for natural health that he mentions, maybe are the last chnace to still catch the runaway train, though I am a bit pessimistic. Consider to support them.



https://youtu.be/QxQdJUWdcW8?si=v7jXU9XgQwqhwgUt

[Rockstar]

Tomorrow will be day 30 of my carnivore challenge. I did it, yeah! :Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:Well, it was not really a challenge, but pure joy. I stick with it, as I already said. I lost 5 kg in weight - FIVE in four weeks! I am below 80 now. I found out that I can easily skip coffee if I allow the very low carb intake from "Caro Kaffee" we call it over here, a surrogate coffee made of barley, rye and chicory, with cream. I am not fanatic about these things, but all in all I must hold the course on low carbs, and no veggies (easy for me, I am no friend of veggies anyway, never was), and no fruits, no cereal products, of course. Spieces and herbs I do accept. I also found a replacment for the high calory beers, Jever light, which has only 1.5 gr of carbs per 100 ml, I can live with the mild taste, actually its quite good, though very light in taste. These are small compromises I accept in order to keep motivation alive and compliance not fading.

But tomorrow I will celebrate, with a portion of Gulasch (self made and very good, two portions left in the fridge), with salted boilt potatoes (first exception in 30 days, so what), and a bottle of the good and fully Grevensteiner Landbier! :Kaleun_Cheers: :Kaleun_Applaud:
Oh, and to my surprise, I have left my sweet tooth. I have not tasted anything sweet since 30 days, nothing, zero, rien, nada. And now I do not even care for it anymore. Biggerthanbig super-good!

I do not count calories. I do not start eating before I feel hungry. I stop eating when that feeling is gone. Keep it simpel, natureboy - it IS that simple!

In general I feel lighter, not just when climbing the stairs, but also in my head, in my mind. I need less sleep, I wake earlier in the morning, and usually rise - that is a premier in all my life, I was always a Morning Grumpy. But I still stay up until 2, 3 a.m. Sometimes I sleep just 4-5 hours now, and feel fine with it. Incredible!

I need to change trousers, my current ones are too wide again. :) I just slipped into the green zone (24.9) on the BMI again. Not that I give too much for the BMI, belly and hip fat is more important.

I now always have meat worth over 200 coins stored in the fridge. I will stick with eating lots of meat t as long as the criminal scum in Berlin and Brussel stills allows it. In the end, that is clear, they want to force everbyody on a vegan diet, on that we cannot have illusions. Except if they get stopped by active resistence. But the campaigning against meat and dairy is intense, and especially here in Germany. I fear the worst. Dairy products, I eat cheese, butter and ghee, all from pastured milk. I get off yoghurt, though, even though it was organic and unsweetend. I realised that I do not need it to feel full, and that I only ate it as a replacement for snacks.

I maintain a 16-8 to 17-7 intermittend fasting scheme. Breakfast consisting of bacon, two eggs and cheese I sometimes have, sometimes not, depending on how I feel that late morning.


Congratulations!

https://i.postimg.cc/htN7ZYHY/IMG-2924.jpg

[Skybird]

Does the American Diabetes Association hate diabetics?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4cXwq_MQaE

[Skybird]

"Keto beats the crap out of DASH"

A study's details.


Printable full study here: https://www.annfammed.org/content/21/3/256#sec-10


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZtsLQgUE9s

[Skybird]

Its always worth to listen to Prof. Bikman.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSHAmK-0duM&t=616s

[Skybird]

The usual suspects again try to demnize red meat. This time the claim is not that it causes cancer (wrong), but that it causes diabetes. The bringer of the terrible news is, as so often, once again Harvard, a frontfighter in the battle for a mandatory global vegan diet. I realyl wonder what their backgorund financing looks like and who pays them most donations. I have a clear suspicion...

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/19/health/red-meat-type-2-diabetes-risk-study-wellness/index.html

Well (followed by a long, loiud sigh...). I wnated to stop reaidng already when they said Nurses Health Study, I know that study, and it has many, many methodiligcla issue, it gets quoted time and again because it boast with big numbers of particating people, but thats not all that makes a good study.

What they essentially do is reframing past data, and distorting it a little so that it matches contemporary agendas.

Oh, and if you have not alreasdy guessed it, a diet basing on plenty of red meat does for most of us (except maybe the I assume genetical exception that Prof. Bikman mentioned) does not push us into diabetes, but prevents diabetes or is a way out of diabetes.

The danger in these shady scientific pseudo works is that politicians pick them up, take them as serious science and enforce veganism on people on grounds of this propandistically mutilated sort of "science".

Science is dead, I more and more often think these days. And the WHO currently tries to formally bury science once and for all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEzAvos1jak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGGcAmxyRR0

[Skybird]

https://rumble.com/v3ouwry-who-threat.html
The WHO establishes a totalitarian, inhumane global dystopic regime, for the total power and total control of a few shady actors consisting of private foundations, industry lobbies, and in the end: the US government which has initiated this malicou initiative and btw end of the day has absolute influence on said (american) industrial lobbies and said (american) private foundation. With both in return forming and heavily influencing the US government.

Corporate interest merges with governing power. Thats fascism in its purest form.
https://rumble.com/v3ouwry-who-threat.html

[Skybird]

Sweeteners again, two minutes.

Two, three years ago I did not know much about these and in my first post on them I messed around a bit, knowing that backwards from today on :) . I meanwhile had another post on them correcting it somewhat, but I want to point out a small section in the recent video I liked to, and here 00:41:30 on, where Prof. Bikman talks about sweeteners and their differing effects on insuline raise.
He lists Stevia (which I do not like at all, no matter the price and quality class - there are huge differences) and - Aspartam as two examples for sweeteners that are confirmed to not raise any insuline at all. That I like to hear, for the - now very - few times I do not want to pass on a mild sweetness, because Aspartam is of the same taste like sugar ( I know no other sweetner being that similiar to the taste of sugar) and can be dosed like sugar on a 1:1 basis, speaking of the volume of powder on your teaspoon: the same little heap of sugar and Aspartam will proivde almost exaclty the same amount of totla sweetness, you can thus does it by eye like normal sugar. Its my by far preferred choice, if needing to use sweetners. The old claim that Aspartamt causes cancer has been rejected and falsified so often now that even the official investigations into the matter has been stopped already many years ago, its simply a myth by ideolgical crusaders who today tryx to keep the myth alive because they think they must teach all humans to disapprove sweetness in general. And it certainly is no bad idea to get yourself "unused" to sweetness again, like I have done now since weeks, and I do not miss it, but this morning i had my first real coffee (no surrogate) with cream and a very mild dose of sweetness in it again, and man, did it taste delicous! As Prof. Bikman says, the point is to not get carried away and the sweetness in your mouth leading you - by behaviour - to follow-on consumption of this and that that without that sweetness your brain would not have gotten triggered to make you eat additonally to your normal eating habit without sweetness. Now this is the relevant thing here because many people demonising sweetners as well, like sugar, argue that they will make your fat as well (well, those who rais einsuline can potentially do that, but you cannot judge all sweeteners by the same standard), and leaving it to that statement it sounds as if there is a metabolic, biochemical link nevertheless between consuming a sweetner not raising insuline, and gaining weight. But in fact in case of sweetners not raising insuline - and only these! - that simply is not true, we are talking about behaviour control instead, or in other words: its a psychological thing we must be aware of.

Unfortunately, the past campaigns against Aspartam turned Germany into a tabula rasa regarding Aspartam (="Canderel"). In the past I had to order if from the UK, at leats now I can order it from German traders, in Germany - in local stores and supermarkets you will ask for it in vein, also in drugstores, which is ridiculous. It also is a bit more costly than the standard pill-formed sweeteners to be found, but then not as expensive as Stevia and some others.

Message here is: Aspartam is not as bad as most other sweetners, but a.) keep it on a short line, so that you b.) do not loose behavioral eating control as a consequence of the sweetness on your tongue, do not start to eat more than you would have without using a sweetner, and especially do not allow to get carried over to eating other, more sweet stuff, like frutis and candies. If you can maintain this selfcontrol, all is good and nothing speaks against occasionally using a bit of it.

Still, stay away from softdrinks even if they base on Aspartam, its too easy with these to loose said control, and you flush too much of everything bad into your stomach within just seconds - for that we have toilets, so spare your mouth and intestines. Softdrinks NEVER are a good idea, so are fruit juices (I would even include veggie smoothies and the likes). Also, softdrinks often include other bad things as well, not just sweetness, phosphoric acid in Coca Cola being the most famous one. Soft drinks simply NEVER are good.

00:41:30 - 00:43:40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSHAmK-0duM


Immediately after that 2 minutes section they talk about caffeine, if you are interested. In brief: if consumed in moderate amount: all clear, from a ketogenic standpont.

[Skybird]

The vegan media crusade continues.

The ridicule he heaps on this study is well deserved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdYrTW8Kikk


This is a rolling crusade to ban the eating of meat and promote veganism. Sooner or later it will be turned into legislation, mandatory for everybody. The prices of meat will be pushed upwards so that it becomes unaffordable. The German Greens already say that this is what they want to do: making meat unaffordable.

[Skybird]

After having gotten persecuted, mobbed and threatened for five years they haven't lost their sense of humour. :Kaleun_Cheers:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3saP9RNJrw




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYADVBw08LA

[Skybird]

https://youtube.com/shorts/z8BLA8HTrTk?si=Ed-QCYTH5jLMHYDj

[Skybird]

When vegan diet kills, hurts babies, children. How ana that then be called a "healthy" diet...?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b8Osg5MbfE&t=85s

"Devastating logic with total clarity", said one viewer in the comments. He's right.


And then the man's dry sense of humour. Well - Australia. Match. :)

[Skybird]

Australian dietary guideleines have skipped any upper limits on the consummtion of sodium/sal, due to lack of sciontific evidence for that there are benefits in limtiing salt/sodium. If you are always thirsty, must drink urinate a lot, this is often a sign for that you are too low on salt, I know thta since Doc diNicolantonio's lectures on salt already. You drank a lot and drink more, but no fluids containing the amount of soium your body wants, thats why it keepos sendign signals to keep on with drinlking, maybe the coin finally is falling and cleverly you start giving the body what it really wants: sodium. Also, you cannot keep those fluids you drink if you have insufficient sodium levels, btw.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCJ2FoXbHYo


Many doctors still help to spread the myth that there are significant, valid links between high blood pressure and sodium (that is simply outstandingly wrong), and many food advisers still teach people the self-destruction plan of keeping salt intake to the absolute minimums, and even less. What you achieve by that is stress on your heart by raising peripheral resistence in your blood vessels: your heart rate goes up. Your blood pressure is unlikely to change significantly. Over the years, this increased heart rate cannot be good, the heart works in overdrive mode 24/7. Go figure. I tell this by experience, I had this problem for most of my life - until just the past 3 years when I finally cured it. Also, a heart rate of 110+ at rest feels not good, i can tell you. Healthy people have that when they warm up for exercising.

And for the smarties out there who tell people they should aim at not eating salt at all: from a certain deficit amount on that simply ends lethal, always - period.

We get told so much shjt about food and nutrition. Practically everything the health authorities of the nations and international organisations tell us, is a lie, everything. The science of ecotrophology is, in my current opinion, not science at all - it is simply nothing but blatant charlatanism. Dubious questionaires beign filled by memories covering often months and even years, isolated observations, both then getting linked to this or that health topic, and the causal connection is either subtly implied, or explicitly assumed and asserted. Charlatanism - and a big incompetence for correctly applying statistical and scientific basic methodology. :nope:


Day 48 of being a Carnivore myself. :Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:With ease and biggest eating pleasure imaginable! No restrictions for salt in place in my kitchen.

[Rockstar]

I made ghee from unsalted butter today. :D

[Skybird]

I made ghee from unsalted butter today. :D
You can add salt afterwards! :O: I am lazy myself and buy ghee as well as butter. Irish company Kerrygold is a favourite, due to them using pastured milk, also for their ceddar and butter cheese. Delicous.

[Skybird]

https://youtube.com/shorts/WQ9oVHusWjA?si=eXZqJ7f4RQE3Rkob

[Skybird]

The corrupt history of the food pyramid.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOgH9LDwBzY

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLj2Qu4SuNQ

[Skybird]

His personal story could be an eye-opener - if you are willing to listen.

"Have you ever seen a piece of meat in your stool?" I dont want to ruin your appetite, but - let that simple question sink in. Its anything but shallow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijRdbpGXWdw

And this video below starts with Dr. Weston Price, an extremely relevant figure in Vitamine K2 (he called it factor X) and nutrition research - good researchg, not the lies we are getting fed by the corrupt system all around us. His primary work is "Nutrition and Physical Degeneration". If you want to seriously dive into this matter I am talking about so much in this thread, there is no way around this man and this book. The cpyright for this book goes back to 1939 - not before 2020 the first German translation was made available: solid defence for 80 years by the enemy team, the food and pharmaceutical lobbies. Just that they did not score points, but lives destroyed. This video is very entertainingly presented, more like a documentary than a usual Youtube podcast video, and a tour de force through all aspects of the matter. Well done!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpxgZGnEF7E


BTW, former vegans form a very big subgroup - maybe even the biggest subgroup - amongst the can rovore communities. I lost trakc on how often i red comments or forum posts were they showed up and admitted that they ran into so evere helth problems that they could not stay vegan anymore. Becoming carnivore healed their issues.



Myself, I was vegetarian for a couple of years in my twenties, for - nowadays I would admit: misled - ethical reasons, but before and afterwards I was omnivore, and believed also in freshly prepared mueslis, whole grains and all that. I ate veggies, though never liked them too much. Salads I avoided most of my time. I miss nothing of that. Nothing.

[Skybird]

The greed. The crime. The horror.



https://www-achgut-com.translate.goog/artikel/eu_waermt_affenpocken_auf_und_biontech_freut_sich? _x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/yxePUAU8C8A?feature=share


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oT49CBCmLZU?feature=share

[Skybird]

60 days of carnivore life! :yeah:


Deer and wild boar have been added to the food list, its the season for it. To my surprise these are cheaper than beef. The meat has filet quality, but is too lean, I need to add plenty of bacon to the meal. The good thing is that wild meat is free of pharmaceuticals and antibiotics. The taste - well, I like both, some people don't. The only one meat I am not interested in, is pork.



I said that I have extended the 30 days test to 90 days, but that is irrelevant already, for me its clear that this is now extended to "unlimited". I stay with it, I love it.


I also had liver by now, twice, with onions, and I tried to copy the way my Mum did it, and I think I succeeded in that, but I have lost the taste for it, while when I was a boy we had liver occasionally, and back the I liked it. Other organ meat like heart or - worse - kidney and lungs or - most obscure - stuff like brain - I understand the nutrients density in it, but I cannot make myself tolerating the taste of it, i just dont like such stuff. I also dont like processing such stuff in the kitchen. So - no organ meat except rare meals with beef liver, supplementation instead.



A supermarket over here has increased the quantity of Argentine ribeyes they get once a week, due to this strange steep spike in sales on Mondays caused by - me (when I buy 7-10 in one rush if I get them). So now I am also stimulating the economy. :D Dont they say Germany is the sick man of europe again? Red meat heals! :haha:

[Skybird]

On the evil influence the Seventh Day Adventist Church has on dietary guidelines, international food and health politics, science corruption, and the health detoriation and shortening of life expectancy of hundreds of millions of people all over the world. The danger they pose to people can hardly be overestimated.



https://6xc.medium.com/adventism-and-dietary-guidelines-7306cd503130

[em2nought]

I really need to get that packet of liver out of the freezer and make some liver & onions like my mom used to make. Yum! I definitely haven't lost the taste for it. :up:

[Skybird]

Highly processed red meat - risk of cancer? :haha: I say "Fraudulent corrupted science"!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmS4aMvKcWY


https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/13/10/3601/htm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ygs2j0v0sU

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MM62kXYBaE


I onc eheard in a lecture that somnewhere in New Zealand they have a psychiatric hospital where they heal thweir patient wioth depression, schizophrenia dsn more, by using not pdsyahcotherpay and pharfamceiutckal drugs ( a swamp...), but exclusively with nutrition and supplementation therapy. And form severla German lectures I learned that one cna understand neurodegnerative didease asd well as psychiatric conditions as inflammations of the brain, again being caused malnutrition and lack of vitamines and minerals. And when I studied psyhcology ion the nineties we ha done professor who tried to cautiously prepare us for the truth of that as psychologists are professiuonal needs in therapy are maybe revealed as not needed since various mental health conditions are responsive to chemical intervention and - supplements intervention, not so much to talking and behaviour training. Precondition for such models being true is that mental status must have a material/chemical equivalent in the neurolgical status, in the hardware. And I think that is the case.

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/HWB_0NHSRbw?si=B-dqo0OeVMS5ORQW

[Skybird]

Glyphosate

https://www-achgut-com.translate.goog/artikel/kein_eu_verbot_von_glyphosat?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp


More ideology. Little science. Even science fraud.

[Skybird]

I completed my new to-go-to book about debunking the myths about unhealthy animal fats and healthy plant seed oils that have assaulted the food regimens around the world and caused a global pandemic of obesity, diabetes and coronary heart disease from the US and Cenntral Latin America over Europe and the Middle East to India, China and much of the Far East. Whereever SAD, the Standard American Diet, raises its ugly, candy-sweet head, it causes - in the end: murderous - troubles and deaster for populations' health levels. Its by Nina Teichholz (think I earlier linked a video of her), and was 8-9 years ago the top of the NYT bestseller list. A compelling read, exposing the criminal energy behind all that fraudulent science as well as erratic science that forgets too often about its intrinsic problems like publication biases, and other factors corrupting science. "The method of science is the method of bold conjectures and ingenious and severe attempts to refute them", wrote science philosopher Karl Popper. Since 3-4 years I am now diving deeper and deeper into the field of ecotrophology and according medicine, but what I see there is that some of the most profound and basic principles of scientific methodology get - mostly intentionally - violated over and over again (or just take Covid vaccine and policy justification, for that matter...). Industrial profit greed and 7th-Day-Adventist sectarianism add to the overall mess.



Science is in deep, deep troubles - and not just since Coiivid, but it already started decades earlier. The worrying fact is that science and politics conspire to propagate politically wanted goals because politics also gets fundamentally corrupted by corporate interest - and beyond that gets mainly run by stupid amateurs not knowing nothing about anything.

The Big Fat Surprise - Why Butter, Meat & Cheese Belong in a Healthy Diet, by Nina Teichholz, Simon&Schuster 2014, ~480 p.


https://i.postimg.cc/3R3TmNtM/81-Ndxyb-Lu6-L-SL1500.jpg (https://postimg.cc/67bgNWsz)

[Skybird]

Today or tomorrow is the day - 90 Days Carnivore Challenge!
https://i.postimg.cc/1tfHGRdR/Passed.png

:yeah:

Yum yum. I have not only lost several kilos in weight and feel excellent, but also turned into a meat expert and steak specialist. :salute:

[Jimbuna]

Have a curry ya bloody heathen :O:

[Skybird]

^ And why would I not? I would only sort out the veggies (especially pineapple, I hate it, and not just on pizza), and I also wave goodbye to rice. Actually I love the taste of good curry spice and also like the dish of same name, and tikka masala. :03:

[Jimbuna]

Tikka Masala is a girlies dish, you need a Madras or a Vindaloo :)

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/LKRThei-Tm0?si=25htYbxen70oM8En

[Skybird]

4 days after I had finished the 90 days, I decided to do an experiment for another week, a counter-test. From December 11th to yesterday I put the Carnivore Diet on hold, and went back to eating as before: bread for breakfast, coffee, 1-2 full beers with dinner, pasta, pizza, potatoes, vegetables (without any desire...), in short: I ate as before, but kept the snacks short, but I snacked. I didn't have any soft drinks, not even before. One piece of marzipan a day, the size of my thumb, or a bar of chocolate, not more. Meat once in these 7 days, minced meat as spaghetti bolognese, nothing else. No cream, butter as I wanted it on bread, olive oil again. Bananas, apples, kiwi, one of each of the three per day.

I feel much worse. My head is working slowly, my reflexes have suffered badly, I'm sluggish, even on my feet, I notice it when I play table tennis. I can only concentrate for a short time and with much more effort, whereas in the last three months I was completely clear and focused, and on some days I didn't know where to put my energy. I've gained 4 kilos in 7 days, but it feels like 14 kg when I climb stairs and the joints in my toes hurt. My sense of balance on the bike has suffered. I'm sleepy during the day but don't sleep so well at night. During the 90 days I only needed 5 hours sleep and slept well. I am listless.

You often hear that carnivores feel crappy if they allow even one Sinner'S Day every few weeks, so crappy that they decide it's not worth it. The massive increase in carbs to about what is recommended to us as healthy, even necessary - honestly feels like downright poisoning, like a detriment, in contrast to 90 days on a carnivore diet. The vegetables are repulsive, more so than before the 90 days (I never liked veggies much anyway already before, but now I am really "horrified" by them :D ).

It's interesting to experience this so clearly for myself, so I don't regret this experiment, but now it's over and I'm returning to the carnivore style. On Christmas Night'S Sunday I'll have our family raclette, because it's a tradition, potatoes with lots of fatty cheese, otherwise: just get the ****ing carbs out quickly.

I ate 8 eggs tonight and a huge mountain of fatty cheese. I felt better straight away afterwards, mentally. I felt much more satisfied and balanced, I mean on a psychic level. I just dont want that old eatig n stuff anymore, and both my body and soul signal clearly they do not want it either anymore and its not good for us. I guess I'll have steak for breakfast tomorrow and again in the evening.

And my digestion was no longer good either, lots of volume, everything was greasy and it also stank badly, 1-2 times a day. I had mild intestinal cramps for two days, a slight inflammation like I used to have when I had bread from the bakery. What carnivore experts say is true: crap in: crap out. During the 90 days I had to climb on the porcellaine throne only every couple of days, it didn't stink and was so little in volume that I could have carried it away with a single spoon. So, again, a huge difference here, too.

I'll get back to you when all the symptoms have returned to normal, as to report how long it took.

I'm tempted to just smack the next dietician or doctor who gives me the usual dietary advice that is so mainstream, without further comment. How can we be told so much stupid crap...? :arrgh!:

[Gerald]

Good read. I consider myself to get into that to 100 percent. Did you take vitamin supplement as before :hmmm:.

[Skybird]

Good read. I consider myself to get into that to 100 percent. Did you take vitamin supplement as before .
Not as before, I leave some out now, mainly plant-based supplements I took to help with digestive processes and fat metabolism (fatty liver ope ning issues).

The logic behind ongoing supplementation is that
a.) we are today exposed to toxines that centuries ago did not exist in our food and environment (at least not in these modern concentrations), and did not hack away at our health and genes, and
b.) even grass-fed animals would eat grass growing on our exploited soils and therefore they are probably lacking the ammounts of nutrients that in previous times they may have had, and therefore this decline may be reflected in the metabolism of the animals as well, and their fat quality. Not to mention that in the West most cattle is fed with grain, corn, and soy dirt. Which all is not species-adequate food for them. Grass is. Corn and soy is not. And the difference shows in the fatty acid quality and balance.Feed them crap, and see the omega 6 levels rising steeply and the omega.3 levels declining.


Of the relevance of the latter argument of mine I am not absolutely sure, of the first I am. I mean the fatty acid things is real, but to what degree it is true and affects our health I am not certain about, its about the total ammounts of omega 6 and 3, and this question is being debated.However, even grain fed beef is healthy, but you may want to supplemrnt Omega 3. Dr. Berry and Dr. Chaffee do somewhat disagree on other supplementations and say carnivores need less vitamins in general and must not supplement, but I go with these two arguments I made, especially the first one. How toxines can affect metabolic cycles of nutrients I learned with the iodine metabolism which can heavily suffer from intoxication with other halogenes, blocking iodine from docking to cells or getting inside cells, getting transported in the body. Also, a third reason is that we know from trials and studies as well as anecdotes, since decades, that certain vitamins , namely C and D, have almost miraculous powers if you take them in real heavy doses that to recommend the pharmaceutical money makers would prefer to throw you into prison for. This is the reason why in the 80s there was a short period why in the US the public selling of vitamine C was prohibited. It threatened the profits of the industry. Public pressure reversed that in parts but I think vitamin C still can be had only in ridiculously low doses so that it is difficult if not impossible to get it in therapeutically useful doses. At least it was like that for some time after the prohibition ended. And until today many hospitals' adminstrations have prohibited it in most ERs to be held ready for infusions! Thats is not a scandal, that is a cynical crime in my book. Health concerns have absolutely nothing to do with it! THERE IS NO MONEY IN VITAMIN C ...!!! That is the reason they suppress vitamin C. Its also a lie that there are no studies and no academical papers on it. If you use Pub Med, you will see - I last counted late summer, early autumn - that there are 89,000 entries on vitamin C, reaching back to the early 40s! - I take 3x or even 4x 1000mg liposomale vitamin C, which has many advantages over normal vitamine c powder - that dose of 3000 mg liposomale vitamin C equals 8000-12000 of normal vitamine C (and stays much longer in the blood, and avoids all the digestive problems).

So, to finally nail your question, I now take vitamin A (5,000 IU), all vitamin Bs (various solid doses), liposomale Vitamin C (4x 1,000 mg), Vitamine D (20,000 IU), gamma and delta Tocotrienole (vitamin Es these are), vitamine K2 (1,000 mcgr), boron (12mg, aims at the bones, many do not have it on their radar), zinc (25-50 mgr), magnesium (3x 650 mgr, a third of that only bio-available, plus so-called magnesium-oil on the legs' skin, which is magnesium-salt dissolved in water, this way I avoid the digestive system being too irritated by all that magnesium) , selenium (300 mcgr), iodine (12 mg , in the form of Lugol), ubiquinol (400 mg, not to mistake with ubiquinon), 15ml fish oil that gives me 5.2 gr of omega 3 (EPA, DHA, DPA), plenty of salt (!). Over the winter season with people all around sneezing in my neck, I also take NAC and quercetine. - I havent had a flu or cold since several years. Before, all my life, i had them 6-8 times a year! I also phased out my blood pressure drugs which I took for almost 15 years. I do not need them anymore!

I eat no more veggies, no fruits, almost never grain-based products like bread, noodles, pizza dough. I love pizza and bread, its a loss. The rest is not. Note carnivore diet is not only good due to what it gives you (all you need, essntiually), but also due to what it prevents you to eat, namely plant toxines and carbohydrates and plant seed oils.

I suffered for 25 years from a mysterious nervous desease that never got correctly diagnosed, and meant coming and going phases of pain of the likes as if you had hot water in your veins and arteries, or heating wires in your limbs. Really, not nice. They told me I would probably die early due to neurological degeneration, and I believed it for many years, but they had no clue what it was, and played guessing games: All that - is gone. GONE. I had pains for many years of my life, serious pains. Since 3-4 years no more. Since I started all this.

Over the corona years I became a much healthier man! LOL - Oh the irony.

Its the inner doctor that heals. Our bodies have the library of functions that we summarise under the title "immune system", to deal with germs and infections and intoxications, since millenia. The ancient Greek healers said: "Thy food shall be thy medicine". I know now what made me so miserable: too many calories, too few nutrients. I was severely malnourished. Keep crap out, at least limit it strictly. Get good stuff in that is adequate food for our species. We are carnivores, and we can show that biochemically, evolutionary-biologically, metabolically, anatomically, anthropologically. We may show the behaviour of opportunistic omnivores, but we are by physical nature and essence and we remain to be carnivores, since at least 2 million years, probably twice as long if not longer. With the beginning of farming, settling down and eating grain and vegetables, the physical degeneration of our bodies began, we lost hbeioght, strength, physis, endurance, immunology, and our jaw bones shrunk. The next time you see teenagers with braces, you might think about all this. And maybe get the classical book by Weston Price: Nutrition and Physical Degeneration.

[Gerald]

My vitamin is vegetable capsel and are pretty good considering the fact I'm not currently going in to meatstyle". After Xmas day's I will start up. Now is a question concern if the vitamin capsel is to avoid due to my future intake?

[Skybird]

Certainly not for the reason you mention.

I could give endless details, but in fact I just would repeat myself. I have written and mentioned all I could say many times in this thread. Read it backwards, from "now " to "back then", I now know more than KI did 3 years ago, maybe I alered some info, details, for example I had to correct my initial post on artifical sweeteners, and also have risen my dose for vitamin D several times. Take my newer comments before the older.

I assume by vitamine pill you mean a mutli vitmiane poill, Consider to take nutrients in individual preparations. A solid fail-safe minimum basis would include vitamine B complex, C liposomale), D3, K2, Zinc, Magnesium, Selenium, Iodine, Omega 3.

Avoid plant seed oils, fructose, glucose, margarine, transfats, cereals, fruits, and at least limit veggies. Keep carbs low. No soft drinks. No unfermented milk. No bread, if you can avoid it.

Eggs are fantastic, good also is butter, gee, bacon, cheese, fatty meat, fatty fish, cheese, cream.

Saturated fat does not make people fat or ill. Carbohydrates do. Push the sliders in your favour, accoridng to myour choice and motivation. The more positive slider movement,s the better for you.

Our modenr diet rukles are just aroudn a hunbdred yera sold, and sicne aorudn a hundred years civilizaitonal deseases started to become pandemic. Before, people ate like I mentioned, and they were much healthier, and lean.

Our modern diet rules are WRONG. The doctors tell us lies - and Kelloggs and Coca Cola anyway.

Dont be afraid of salt or cholesterol, saturated fats and animal fats.

Be afraid of statins and refined sugar, HFCS and oat drinks, soy and nutrient deficient veganism and vegetarianism.

We do not need carbs. Period. The little glucose the body indeed needs - is produced by the liver, production-on-demand.

Overdosing protein is theoretically possible, but practically almost never happans as long as you are not a bodybuilder eating white powders for silly reasons.

Fats are essential, we need them, we burn them, we live by them.

If we eat only plants, we stay deficitary, and do not get all we essentially need for survival. Supplementation is mandatory if you want to live. 17 out of 20 vegans even then cannot avoid getting seriously sick to a degree that they must give up.

Meat does provide us with everything we need. Not always at opötimal levels, thogh, I suspect, but: its all there. Suzpoplenetian is not mandatory, but optional.

How can they call a vegan diet that leaves us with the mandatory need to supplement - a "healthy, species-adequate diet"...? Obviously it cannot be that, else we would not need to supplement not only for optimizing our statusk but for merely surviving. Meat, fish, aniaml products do give us all we need. It is our species-adequate, natural diet. AND WE ARE FULLY ADAPTED TO IT.

We are not adapted to eat grains (ATI sensitivity: affects every living human on Earth), veggies (deficitary, and gives us toxines to which we react with deseases, cancer and allergies), fruits (more toxines, and an overdose of fructose). And it shows! Insuline resistence drives obesity drives vulnerability for the full broadside of civilizational deseases. Follow the official diet guidelines by the government authorities. I guarantee you its only a question of time until most of you get ill from it. These guideline smean it well, but not wiht you. They mean it well with the cereals industry, Big Pharma, the agriculture lobby owning the big monocultures, the sugar lobby...

Stop complying. Claim back your responsibility for yourself. That is moral behaviour. Only sheep and cattle walk on all four.

[Gerald]

Yes it's a Multi M but not Omega in it.

+B-Vitamin in a separate cap
+Magnesium 3×800
+D-Vitamin 5K
It's a start.

[Skybird]

Yes it's a Multi M but not Omega in it.

+B-Vitamin in a separate cap
+Magnesium 3×800
+D-Vitamin 5K
It's a start.
And not a bad one!

You take a solid dose of vit D together with a very solid dose of Magnesium, which is needed to activate vit D. Consider to double the vit D dose over the winter months. I would recommend to you to also take vit K2-MK7 (all trans), these three are a trio that belong together, K2 collects calcium in the blood that vit D helps to assimilate in higher ammounts from your food, but calcium should not stay in the blood. K2 activates osteocalcine and GLA proteine that bring calcium from the blood (and from plaques) into the bones and teeth (vit D does NOT do that). D-K2-Mg are three musketeers that should not be separated!

Check your vit D pills, there is a good chance that they already have included K2 in it, many preparations add K2 to their D3 formula. If not, buy some, its cheap. 360 caps á 200mcgr for 12-15 coins. 200mcgr K2 per 5000 IE vit D, that is my rule of thumb. K2's toxicity treshhold is very high, they searched for it and didnt find any, that high it is. Its a good help to prevent osteoporosis.

Linus Pauling is fully rehabilitated by now. Beside vit D, vit C is another "wonder pill" that they try to defame at all cost - because they know it is so effective that it could become a threat to profit interests. It does not hold out for long in the blood stream, so must either be taken in small doses over the whole day, which complicates life sinc eit also affects your guts, or it is taken as liposomale vitamin C, which bypasses all troubles in the gut, and keeps it in the blood for many hours longer. The case for liposomale forms of vit C is a very strong one, I absolutely recommend it over normal ascorbin acid things. It costs more, but is FAR more effective and aovid guts troubles, and stays longer in the blood, for hours and hours. 1gr of liposomale vit-C compares to the efficiency of 2-3 gr of normal vit C, 2 gr of liposomale vit C compares to 4-6 gr of vitamine C, and 3 gr of liposomale compares to 8-12 gr of normal vit-C, so the relation is not linear, but exponential. Plus not guts troubles. Plus longer station time in the blood.

Taking Omega 3 also means: avoid Omega 6. We nevertheless take in a good dose of 6 anyway, we almost cannot avoid it and we even need some, just not at the suicidal ratios to Omega 3 as is common in the Western food regimen: 10:1 to up to 35:1, in some smaller regions and populations even exceeding 50:1. It should be around 1:1 to 2:1. Doses of EPA and DHA reaching 3 gr per day is a very solid mark, a bit more might even be better. Do not take capsules with fish oil, buy bottled fish oil (krill oil is even more expensive). Good fish oil products are expensive. The by far best I found, is a German product, name is Omega 3 Zone. 15ml daily intake provides over 5 gr of EPA, DHA and some DPA. The bottle lasts for 33 days this way, but costs 50 coins, 45 in abonement. I prefer the Ginger-Lemon taste, the others are not bad either. DO NOT HEAT, that goes without saying.

Zinc you also should add. Its cheap. It accumulates, means if you take too much too long, it becomes toxic. The effects are reversible, but take some weeks to up to some months to fully disappear again. 25 or 50 mg should be safe, in case of an infection even 75 to 100mg - but not for longer than 10-14 days!

Its difficult, like with all these pills and capsules, to provide a dose that works according to "one size fits all". People and their metabolisms are different. The one maybe needs not more than 25mg Zinc, the other is such that he needs to triple that dose to have the same benefit as the first one. Without precise blood work one cannot know, and even blood work is no silver bullet, has limitations that the doctor usually does not tell you, its just a snapshot of that one moment, on that one morning, in that one metabolic status you were in: and this status can be very different on two mornings without brealfast and point 7 a.m. Next morning your body may be set up quite differently. In case of Omega 3, the range of needed doses by different people can vary by factors in the range of low and medium hundreds! My reference is the research done by Prof. von Schacky, a German cardiologist. His lab is one of the leading in the world for Omega 3 research and index marking. If one uses fish oil, one really should do an Omega 3 index after 6 months plus a fatty acid analysis, its the only way to really know whether one does it right with Omega 3 intak eor maybe already has started to waste money - as I said, good fish oil is expensive. Investing into an Omega 3 index therefore pays off. After 6 months, and then again after 6 months. Omega 3 levels in the metabolic system change slowly.

Most doctors will not tell you about all this, thats the big desaster here, and will even warn you of it, trying to brign you into compoliance with the official diet advices. Which surely make people ill.

Magnesium you already have, and a good dose. Mg deficiency is widespread, 40-60% of Westenr populations are affected, bioavailability of preparations is ranging from one quarter to one third of the taken Mg volume. Problem is, like with vitamin C, that the intake cannot be just pushed upwards, sooner or later the guts revolt. Alternative is using magnesium oil, which in fact is no oil but Magnesium salt in water, it gets applicated on the skin and bypasses the guts. Good against leg cramps, since it can get applicated close to the "action centre". Skin feels like covered with dry sweat, after 15-20 minutes you want to wash it off.

If vit-D doses get raised, Mg should be raised, too, since acitvation of vit D consumes Magnesium in significant quantity.

C. D3. K2. Mg. Zn. Omega 3. Full spectrum vit B. Thats a profound basis especially for boosting the immune system in the infectious time of the year!

I would recommend to also add to that basics list: iodine, and then selenium is mandatory, else the iodine can run you into serious troubles. Selenium is no option if supplementing iodine - it is a must, since selenium deficiency is the rule. Selenium is very interestign in other regards as well, it has long been overlooked, we just started to understand how important it really is. Regarding iodine, selenium is needed to make gluthateionperoxidase GPO, which counters the forming of hydrogenperoxide inside cells as consequence from iodide (the salt of iodine) entering cells and getting reduced to iodine again. Iodine levels take time, 6-12 months, some up to 2 years, to be brought back into shape. Its not wrong to have levels checked via 24 hours urine excretion test according to Dr Abrams and Brownstein, thats the only form of testing for iodine levels that makes sense, a blood sample or a single urine sample make little sense and tell surprisingly little about whether you have sufficient iodine or not: it tells you only whether you consummed iodine in the last couple of hours, but nothing on the quality of the dose and your general status. Thyroid hormones checked via blood work allow a meaningful picture only if all 6 values instead of just the usual 2 or 3 values around T3, T4 get scanned and considered, many doctors do this simply wrong, ignore such bdoctors. The other 4 values are not to be ignored!!! Regarding doses, different people may need different doses in the range of 12-80 mgr of iodine, according to Dr. Brownstein. He says most of his patients that after a therapeutical "flooding" phase take maintenance doses ranging mostly between 12 and 50 mgr. I long time took 36, then 24, now 12. That equals 2 drops of Lugol 5%.


In Japan, they consume, depending on the region they live in, between 4 gr and 13 gr of iodine per day: fatty sea fish, sea weed and all that. The 13 gr value sometimes is debated and critizised, but Brownstein and Abrams both insist(ed) on that they repeatedly counterchecked with the Japanese health officials on that statistical value and repeatedly got confirmation from the Japanese authorities that the value is correct. Now, compare that to the WHO recommendation of miserable 150-220 mcgr. ! Many deseases and cancer forms associated with iodine deficiency and that are pandemic in the West - are rare and almost exotic in Japan. When Japanese move to the West, namely the US, and they get exposed to US diet, the prevalence of such deseases amongst them starts to steeply climb within just a few years. Two reasons for that: the adding of plant seed oil (high Omega 6, amongst other issues) to the diet - and the deficiency in iodine.

Selenium turns toxic from certain doses on, literature usually mentions 400mcgr as safe maximum daily dose. Preparations usually have 200 mcgr per pill, and with 200 or 300 mcgr per day you are most likely safe. I say "most likely" because I base on the assumption you have no pre-existing health conditions. "He who wants to know for sure, must measure", is good advice, however. You do everything at your own risk. Even following the doc's advice is at your own risk, in case he is wrong. So, do not just believe me - find information and educate yourself!

Iodine is one of the more complex topics amongst nutrients. Before embarking on iodine I would strongly recommend to get some education on it (that most doctors will not provide you with and even warn against). Else you end up causing a thyreoiditis or especially Hashimoto syndrome that to prevent was your intention when starting to take iodine. I dont want to scare people off from iodine, I even recommend to consider iodine, but I also say: if doing it, then take care you do it right. Health practitioners who are open-minded for supplementation and especially iodine, are rare, at least in my part of the world, if you found such a person, consider him a precious ressource and dont let him go again. I have fired two of my former doctors in four years, plus two more doctors of my parents!

Heck, many doctors and/or their assistants do not even take the needed time to correctly measure blood pressure... I bet many people get set on blood pressure drugs without sufficient reason.

Oh, there is a reason, for a moment I forgot. Profit interests.

A tip: Ubiquinol, that is the so-called reduced form of Coencyme Q10, and is not to be mistaken with the much cheaper Ubiquinon (the unreduced form of Q10, which is much harder to get metabolized). Its expensive, but helps, amongst others in boosting ATP production in the cells' mitochondria. And that makes itsel felt, I tellm you! In the first days you can feel a mild euohoria form it, like havign had a mild drinkm, not being drunk, but s very little bit tipsy. It feels good! Unforunately the body adapts and then filters this sesnation out, sort of. - Mitochondrial medicine imo is one of the coming big things in medicine, and rightly so.

Make sure your vit B complex is indeed a complete one, and then consider to take it twice a day. Dont worry the dosage, if it is prescription-free then the doses are such that you find it hard to overdose them ever.

[Gerald]

Yeah it's a jungle in marketplace to get the customer the "right service" and yes economic and business is a must and crucial at least from the stockholders perspective.

Swedish text,

Links from my supplier to come:https://www.svensktkosttillskott.se/core-vitamins-man?da=14-23

https://www.svensktkosttillskott.se/core-b-complex?da=14-46
https://www.svensktkosttillskott.se/core-magnesium-citrat?da=14-46
https://www.svensktkosttillskott.se/core-vitamin-d3-5000-ie-plus?da=14-23

[Skybird]

The B complex looks alright and comparable to the drugs we have over here, only small differences. If you ever consider to go after iodine however you may want to consider separate preparations to boost B3 and B6, it helps detoxification that may be an issue if you start bwith iodine: when it is about to get rid of the other halogens poisening your body and blocking iodine out. The B12 content could be higher if you approach higher age. - I would take 3, maybe 4 of these B pills. But thats me.

The Magnesium is fine. You said you take 3 of these. Good, if your guts play ball: stick with it.

The Multi-Vit.: its comfortable but I always recommend to supplement all thes e lements individually, for two reasons: first, you can dose them all individually, second, some nutrients compepte for the same secondary agents the body must invest to assimilate them, if you take these nutrients together, you reduce both their availability. Usually its not dangerous, just uneconomic. In worst case the content of one nutrient may get completely neutralised.

2500 mcgr Vitamin A is around 8330 IUs . Thats fine, it must not get more, probably, myself I stick with 5000. Safe limit in literature often marked at 10-12 thousand, but that may not be engraved in stone, the debate rages.

25 mcgr Vit D is 1000 IE. Thats is way too little. 5000 is my minimum recommendation. 10000 would be better.

Vitamine E, now that is a complicated topic. There is a band of 8 brothers who together form "vitamin E". These are called isomers. Think of them as the seven notes of the for example c major scale - you need them all to form a melody, just having one or two does not allow you to do much. Their names are alpha, beta gamma delta tocopherol, and alpha, beta gamma, delta tocotrinols. Some of these isomers are better behaved than the others. The bully in the block unfortunately is alpha tocopherol, and it is the one the industry can build in huge quantity and extremely cheaply, thats why it is so popular as servign as a "vitamin E supplement": small ivnrestment, huge profit return. Unfortunately it is dangerous. First, frequent consumpation of alpha tocopherol raises the likelihood of having life expectancy shortened, especially amongst males. Second, its presence has a severe suppressing effect on the other seven isomers, and if its volume content is beyond 25 or 30% of all included vitamin e isomers, it completely neutralises all the others's positive effects. Unfortunately, as I said, the industry loves to pump alpha tocopherol out, and these levels in a mix of isomers thus are easily reached if the other isomers are present. The vitamine E solution in this capsule to me is an absolute No-Go. But thats me. Alpha tocopherol already is in many things, added as an antioxidant, then I do not want to artificially supplement it. For improved heart and cardiovascular health, focus instead on something that excludes or minimises this isomer, and that maximises gamma and delta tocotrinol instead, these are the two you really want most. They usually can be had in form of so called DMT3-oils. The one I use has 96% of the two wanted isomers, only 4% of the other six, including alpha tocopherol. Unfortunately this is one of the most expensive supplements around. The bottom line of this message: avoid further supplementation of alpha tocopherol - chnaces are you already get more than enough via other industrial food.

Vit-C: way too little. Waaayyyyy too little.

Vit-K. They dont say whether it is K1 or K2, and if K2, which one: there are 14 or 18 different ones (called MK1-MK14), all of them in two "symmetrical" conditions (called cis and trans). K1 and K2 have two very different foci, the K1 focusses on blood coagulation, K2 mainly is about the calcium metabolism. You want in precise terminology this: K2-MK7 all-trans. Not MK4. Not K1. Not "K" - that could be just about anything, K1, K2, a mix, even K3.

Iodine content is waaayyyyy too low.

Zinc and Selenium could be a bit more, but okay, they do it this way...

On the plant-based ingredients I am obviously out, as a carnivore. My guts microbiome is completely different by now. Note to you: if you indeed go carnivore, expect a few weeks of guts troubles when the biome in your guts gets exchanged. Bacteria living of fibre go out, bacteria needed for digesting meat and fat go in. Your guts relearns to work with fat, and to extract that plenty of fluids withotu fibre beign around. You MUST eat fatty if you eat carnivore - you do not want lean meat!!! Still everything can be overdone or underdone, so here. Your liver produces a certain quantity of bile per day, no matter what and when and how much you eat, it gets stored in the gallbladder, the latter does not produce bile, it just stores it. This bile must suffice over the day, and whether it does or not depends on whether you had too much, too little or optimal fat input in your food. You also will see an effect from the fluid absorbtion in the guts being changed from fibre-heavy diet to meat, the guts must adapt to it. All this affects whether you have thick and hard or loose and greasy stool. most people changing to carnivore have the latter, the transition phase can last from 10 to 40 days, it depends on the individual. In any case it is important to eat a good amount of salt. They scaremonger us with salt and say we should avoid it. No, we shouldnt, we should embrace it, the low salt regimen has killed probably so many peopel like only few other modern medicine myths have. But we also should drink, and not according to timetables and numbers, but thirst. If you eat more salt, you will likely feel more thirst - so allow to drink more! Life can be so simple. Use that salt shaker according to your taste, have no bad conscience, and have a bottle on the table. With salt, I am varying between 8 and 15 gr per day. Taste, you know.

We do not need fibre as carnivores, we even cannot digest them. They cause our guts to work overtime, and only bacteria feed on them - we do not. It even causes us health problems.If the guts must work overtime all time long because you do not stop pushing crap into it that it must push out again, then it suffers from breakdowns, gets worn out, is exhausted.

Whether living bacteria cultures can survive the HCl bath in the stomach and still live when reaching the guts, is hotly debated and unclear. I side with the camp that says No, most likely not, but we may be shown wrong one day. Until then I eat yogurt because I like the taste and consistence, not for health reasons. I think when it reaches my guts then everything that once lived in it already is dead. So, I do not care for probiotics, living bacteria cultures and the likes, even more so if they serve the needs of a herbivore's biome. I care more about animal nutrients like creatin, carnosin, carnitin... and protein of a quality that only animal protein provides, and that you can never get from plants in this bioavailable quality. Proteins are needed to form amino acids. Be deficitary in protein and you are deficitary in amino acids. And that can and will have severe health consequences.

P.S.

The Vit D: your capsules seem to not include K2. Take two of those pills in winter, one or two in summer, and you should be fine with vit D, but get a separate K2-MK7 preparation and take 200 mcgr per 5000IEs of Vit D. More is better, helps to decalcify your plaques. - Oh yes, plaques can be build back by GLA protein and osteocalcin. They showed that in a clinical trial. When 41 or 42% of the calcium in the plaques had disappeared , they broke off the trial. Either they had a fixed time table already before, or the trial became too successful, threatening the sales of expensive drugs and therapies against arterosclerosis. - You most likely cannot overdose K2. ;). Its like blowing out a running candle. If you would have let it burn on, it would most likely have burnt down all the way...

[Gerald]

Thanks. D vitamin I take regulary 5k in October to April in these North hemisphere. But since you brought up K-Vitamin I have no clue more than I have read about that however I have eaten leaf so that will compansete...

[Skybird]

Thanks. D vitamin I take regulary 5k in October to April in these North hemisphere. But since you brought up K-Vitamin I have no clue more than I have read about that however I have eaten leaf so that will compansete...
No, no and no, leafs do not provide K2, only K1, and that is a huge difference. Only animal food sources can provide K2. K2 and K1 are not the same, as I described somewhere above, even if some vegetarians continue to claim that. It simply is wrong. To remind of it: K1 is about blood coagulation in the main, whilke K2 is about the nclacium in your blood that may get boosted by the Vit D intake.

And while I am at it, halflife and bioavailabiliuty of K2 Mk-2, sometime still sold, is very low and disadvantegous, thats why taking Mk7 is so much better.

In nordic countries you can safelyx assume that you will not suffer if taking vitamin D in summer as well. :) When our ancestors moved from the equator region to the poles, they lost pigments, becasue the ability of their skin to make vit D suffered the further they went north or south, ,due to weaker sunlight. Thats why you northerners are so pale and white skinned. Still, it is not enough. Ypou can even show that the yearly disirbutiuon of flu and cold pandem ics are linked to the exposure to sunlight in various places and the UV radiation level reached. That reaches as far as to changing death rates, in relation to sun energy levels in a giovne region.

Of course its your decision. I stick with my tip: 5000 in summer, 10000 in winter. The daily limit of the skin to make vit D under most ideal conditions, is around 20,000 IE. I take that as a hint from mother nature that we are able to deal with such volumes safely. Beyond that, further production steeply declines, so then taking more pills beyond 20,000 IEs probably only produces expensive urine.



Nothing wrong with having a calcidiol-in-serum level of 100 ngr/ml (after corona trsditoinalists said it shoud, be just 40-60, then you are fine. Well, you are safe, but further benefit can be had for a penny or two, so: why not? Even a bit more than 100 most likely will not become dangerous. The motto with vit D and C really is: MORE IS MORE. Its not always and with everything like this. But here it is the case.




How does kidney function react to high vitamin D levels?
How does serum calcium react to rising vitamin D levels?


These questions are analyzed here using scientific graphics. There is even a poisoning study from Turkey. Here, children were observed who were given 4000 times the dose of vitamin D over a longer period of time because a preparation was produced incorrectly: Intoxication.


The results of the Turkish study show that a problematic increase in calcium and creatinine levels occurred from around 300 nanograms/milliliter. Conversely, this means that vitamin D levels below 300 were fortunately still without problems for children.


It is also reassuring to learn that all the children's laboratory values have returned to normal. So there was not a single child who was permanently damaged. This is remarkable in view of the fact that vitamin D levels of up to almost 1000 nanograms/milliliter were achieved.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSvmUA26pfQ

[Gerald]

It appears that my wallet have to expand. 🤔 Now have this gone to an high level of experience in my mind. Increase my already high intake of egg will do the trick.🧑‍🎄

[Skybird]

Eggs are always good. On random days I have 6 or 8 eggs, scrmabled eggs at mild tmeprature, with plentky really plenty of butter and only a little bit of salt, then constantly scrambling, putting ever new layers of egg on each other, not formign any crust or brown parts. Then when it is done, fat buttercheese on top of it. Oh does that taste well, the butter alone! I have half a dozen ways of doing scrambled eggs. This is the simpliest - and maybe best.

If you must choose and prioritize: 1. real food trumps over industrially processed food, 2. real food before supplementation. I mean they are not called supplements for no reason, they are not called "food replacements". But quality food it should be then: plenty of meat and fish, butter (!), eggs -absolutely nothing wrong with that.

I would only always supplement a solid dose of vitamins D and C and K2, plus Zinc and Magnesium.

Avoid known sources of Omega 6, and transfats, and glucose and fructose.

With this advice alone you dramatically push the sliders in your favour! :up:

Tip: ground beef /cheaper than ribeye steaks/entrecote), and here: beef burger patties (cheaper, and usually fattier than loose ground beef). Avoid lean steaks. Steaks must be fatty. Beef fat is delicous. Different to pork fat, which I cannot stand. I dont have pork in general, its not my taste.


Wild game, if you hunt, is fine although it is not fat, but lean. But it has no antibiotics and other medical drugs used in lifestock farming. Thats the big plus with wild game meat.

[Gerald]

Eggs are always good. On random days I have 6 or 8 eggs, scrmabled eggs at mild tmeprature, with plentky really plenty of butter and only a little bit of salt, then constantly scrambling, putting ever new layers of egg on each other, not formign any crust or brown parts. Then when it is done, fat buttercheese on top of it. Oh does that taste well, the butter alone! I have half a dozen ways of doing scrambled eggs. This is the simpliest - and maybe best.

If you must choose and prioritize: 1. real food trumps over industrially processed food, 2. real food before supplementation. I mean they are not called supplements for no reason, they are not called "food replacements". But quality food it should be then: plenty of meat and fish, butter (!), eggs -absolutely nothing wrong with that.

I would only always supplement a solid dose of vitamins D and C and K2, plus Zinc and Magnesium.

Avoid known sources of Omega 6, and transfats, and glucose and fructose.

With this advice alone you dramatically push the sliders in your favour! :up:

Tip: ground beef /cheaper than ribeye steaks/entrecote), and here: beef burger patties (cheaper, and usually fattier than loose ground beef). Avoid lean steaks. Steaks must be fatty. Beef fat is delicous. Different to pork fat, which I cannot stand. I dont have pork in general, its not my taste.


Wild game, if you hunt, is fine although it is not fat, but lean. But it has no antibiotics and other medical drugs used in lifestock farming. Thats the big plus with wild game meat. Thanks for your advice.:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

[Skybird]

Wowh, someone is talking tachless here. And he calls a spade a spade: Mass murder. This video touches on health issues almost in passing and after the first 40%, around time mark 07:50, focuses much more on the political global efforts to fix people, to get rich from the poison they are sold, and then to make money again by selling soothing remedies that of course do not cure, because they want people to stay sick so that they can continue to make money from them. Diabetes at 10, high blood pressure in their mid-25s, a lifelong drug user - it doesn't get any better than that! And all the side effects that their pills and injections demand! More drugs to sell them!

An oligarchic-neofeudal new world order that is in fact quite old.

A dictatorship of the few vampire lords who feed off all the many of their subjects.

I think just like him, I just didn't expect to see someone saying it so clearly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDzdjHucWOg

[Skybird]

"When it comes to just the care and feeding of the average human walking the streets, the little training that we got was atrocious, and so there's that excuse and I think that is partly a reason for doctors being awful nutrition advisors, but I also think its partly excuse as well, because the word 'doctor', if I'm not misinformed, kind of means 'teacher' in Greek, and so everybody who is going to be a good teacher - which every doctor should aspire to be - by definition you got to have to be a good student, and if you are indeed a student of human health, which I think every doctor should be or strive to be, you should be a student, you should be curious (...) Its like doctors have lost all their curiosity, and I think a whole lot of just regular guys just dont realize how much medicine has changed over the last decades for sure, and even just since 2020."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-TSdYi8fpY

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SF4wJgedww


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rukiJ9NJYCQ

[Skybird]

Eating eggs will kill you.

Not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H7ZGIDmuIw

These corrupt wannabe "scientists", who are willing to serve manipulative lies to people for money, with the sole aim of bringing them into compliance with ideologically contaminated nutritional selfdamaging paradigms so that someone else can make money from the deficiency diseases they create, are really the very worst. Scum. They belong in prison because they are inciting self-harming behavior. Every propagation of the vegan diet is ultimately just that: a guide to self-harming behavior.

I eat 2-4 eggs per day, depending on my appetite for it.

This constant propagation of not eatign animal protein and animal food and only go vegan, serves the policy of the 7th Day Adventist Church lobby that - with its "Garden Eden diet", which is their name for pure veganism - is dominating the US government's health and nutrition policy sicne many decades, and since that is so influential it is being heard world-wide, unfortunately, it also serves the interests of the farming and cereals industry lobbies. The latter massively invests in - pharmaceutical companies with a strong focus on producing diabetes and obesity medication - what a coincidence! An unbelievable coincidence...!

Millions and dozens and hundreds of millions are being talked into getting fat, getting sick, suffering pain and illness, suffering work and social consequences, suffering financial troubles, loosing their health, and ultimately experience a shortenening their life expectancy.

Is there a bigger crime imaginable? Compared to the scale of that, criminalised drug trade is the far minor offence.

I am absolutely getting enraged about the vegan and food mafia. And the ignorrance of so many people just buying their lies. And the corrupt "scientists" :haha: opening their hands for gold and then spitting out endlessly the always same lies and man-harming propaganda . Its not just a scandal, it is a crime against humanity. It damages hundreds of millions. It causes financial damages to the state worth two and three digits billions and billions in dollars and euros every year as well.

They all belong behind bars for life. The scale of their crime is hard to be overestimated.

[Eichhörnchen]

Knowing what we do about eggs in the diet, i.e. that the cholesterol you consume when eating them has no bearing on the amount contained in in your blood - since it's burned up & digested just the same as everything else you've eaten - doesn't this also hold true for all these yogurt pots supposedly full of "friendly" gut bacteria? Aren't these things just a cynical deception? My mother-in-law swallows vast quantities of the stuff thinking it's good for her and won't be told. Does it have ANY benefits?

[mapuc]

Trying to remember where I read a science article about eggs and Cholesterol affect on people.

If I remember correctly the examine showed that it was a huge different.
While there was an increase of a certain type of Cholesterol on some of the test group, there wasn't any increase on others in the test group.

Think they ate 3-5 eggs per day during this test period.

Markus

[Gerald]

60 or more eggs can easily go down in a months I love those white in mixed dishes!

[Skybird]

Cholesterol from eggs may lead to higher cholesterole in the blood or not (studies are divided, maybe it dpeends on who pays for what study), BUT that does not automatically translate into raised cholesterol-calcium plaque in the arteries. But dropping cholesterol levels are associated with higher mortality rates - let that sink in! ;) Cholesterol is a very very important ingredient for building neurons and the brain matter, the brain is much made of cholesterol. Cholesterol is a taxi agent that lets fat board the taxi, it gets driven either from the liver to the organs and cells, or from the organs back to the liver (HDL and LDL), and the more fat you eat, the more cholesterol you have, the more LDL and HDL ou have. Low cholesterol also is associated with degenerative disease like Alzheimer, dementia, maybe Parkinson.

You want a balanced HDL-LDL ratio, and low triglycerides - if that is the case both, then I simply do not care for LDL levels.

Note that LDL is not LDL. There is huge particle LDL, small particle LDL, oxydated LDL, in sequence of growing danger. Large particle LDL is probably not even a risk factor for anythign at all. The better LDL you get from animal-based fats and fatty acids, the more dangerous ones from plant-based fatty acids.

HDL/LDL is unlikely to cause deseases, but it can contribute to their forming out, if other causes trigger these deseases.

Plaque is formed by, for example, high blood pressure leading to micro ruptures of the blood vessels wall tissue. In these scratches, LDL then can accumulate (the smaller the LDL particle, the easier, thats why the small one is more dangeorus than the big one), and since it is kind of like a glue, it then collects calcium from the blood and this growing layer of calcium then causes plaque. Means: control your blood pressure, keep calcium in the blood low, and the cholesterol does not come negatively into play.
You control calcium by taking generous doses of K2, several times as much as the usually recommended 200 mcgr, I take 1600 per day, native tribes and populations in natural reserves are known to have intakes per day of 3000-4000 if they follow a canrivore diet. And they have healthy teeth, big jawbones, and fantastic bones - and usually no plaque, also cardiovascular problems are often pratrcially unknown, so is insuline resistence and cancer. Blood pressure can be lowered only by usually 7-15 points maximum by drugs, something that many people do not know. The rest of BP control must be done via weight loss, healthy eating, real food.

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Yogurt and living bacteria, i have my doubts there, too, and I buy and eat it (buying it without sugar or sweetener) because I like it, not because I think its especially healthy regarding bacteria cultures. Yogurt is fermented milk, has little milk sugar, means the lactose in it gets constantly degraded by the bacteria in it, and it gives you nutrients like calcium. I only check that it is made from organic, grass-fed milk, like I check for butter, gee and cheese and cream as well: less antibiotics, growth hormones and a much better ratio between Omega 6 and omega 3. I drink no unfermented milk. The bacteria in yogurt must pass through the HCL acid bath in the stomach and theoretically should get killed there already, and if it ends up in the guts it should already be as dead as evertyhing else that gets moved into the guts. Also, the bacteria strains in yogurt may be present in the guts, too, but the immune cells nevertheless should recognise that those in the yoghurt - if they were still alive after the HCL bath - may be the same family, nevertheless stem from a different origin than those inside the body, and so the immune cells should go after them and kill them. If the bacteria are of value, then that is while the yogurt is still in the glass and they reduce the lactose in it all hours long.

However, note that the topic of bacteria and yogurt is still debated and that views vary wildy. I may be proven wrong in the future, that is possible. Right now, AFAIK neither side has a smoking gun argument pro or against yogurt bacteria survivng the HCL bath. Just do your own yogurt with organic milk or buy organic milk yogurt without sugar, sweetener and artifical aromes. If you think you cannot live without greeting your sweet tooth, sweeten it yourself with Aspartam, since Aspartam does not cause an insuline reaction - Most sweeteners do! :03:
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Its much nonsense, like fibre ands guts health. Fibre is NOT healthy for the guts, but means additional stress, it leads over the years to an overworking guts, and diverticolitis and the likes. We do not have the secum needed to digest fibre, where our ancestors once had it we only have the appendix where our evolution cut it off and spit it out, so to speak - thats why we even can not digest plants fibre and plants, and so only certain plant-eating bacteria can make use of fibre for themselves. If we do not eat plants, we do not have these bacteria, and so do not need fibre. Fibre does not work like a cleaning brush in a pipe, as some sometimes try to tell people, that is total nonsense. The German word for fibre is Ballaststoffe - ballast stuff - and I tink that describes it best. Its ballast, waste, unneeded stuff, and it stresses your guts, forces it to work overtime day in day out to get rid of all the useless garbage you push into it . And then you wonder why you start to get problems with your digestion over the time of your life...?

Eggs and cholesterol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_ccNIPcFbc

Dont forget to have fun. The more fanatical your diet regime, the deeper your fall. You must find a balance that works best for you. However, when switching, a strict regime for a transition time is recommended, and probably also is a must. For me that was the first keto experience I had two years ago, and now again the 90 days carnivor challenge. I am still carnivore, but allow an occasional, mild "violation" of the rules. Just meat, salt and water for the rest of my life does not cut it for me. Switching to carnivore is easier if you already have keto experience.

Dont buy industrially processed stuff. Buy real food. Avoid these: plant seed oils (very, very very bad, all of them), obviously sugar, wheat-based products, glucose and fructose stuff: syrups, HFCS, soft drinks, fruits; diet drinks and smoothies, all kinds of light/lite products, margarines of all sorts, deep fried and fast food. Buy food articles that contain just one ingredient. If there is a sticker and a bar code and a long list of ingredients and E-code numbers - avoid it. Keep carbs on a very, very short line: we do not need carbohydrates, they are not essential, nor recommendable. They just promise great profits for the industry.

Life is not fair. What is great in taste, what we like, often is doing harm. What does not, may not be as interesting in taste. Life sucks.

[Eichhörnchen]

^ Thanks, Marc - It's my wife Moira who wanted to learn more about this and she actually suggested that I ask you :) so she will be reading your post shortly

[Skybird]

;)

I suggest she checks out the youtube channels by Dr. Ken Berry, Dr. Eric Berg and Dr. Sten Ekberg then. Also Dr. Jason Fung. They did and do incredible valuable work.

For pure carnivore diet, Dr. Anthony Chaffee's channel is a must. Also Dr. Shawn Baker.

I also recommend Dr. Berry's book "Lies my doctor told me" for a start, which has the additional benefit of being extremely accessible. The Amazon customer's feedback to that book speaks volumes. Its a great, simple but well-founded entrance into the matters.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lies-My-Doctor-Told-Me/dp/B07Y2VG9ZS/ref=sr_1_1?crid=267OG8AR98DDI&keywords=ken+berry&qid=1706711082&sprefix=ken+berry%2Caps%2C215&sr=8-1


btw: Hi, Moira! ;)

[Skybird]

I bet not many have this on their awareness list. But it is quite dangerous - and almost omnipresent. I fight an eternal battle with it, too: in form of beer. We do not talk about sugar, and not about alcohol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zaVRd4sNpM&t=1s


When I think about it I must admit that it is really quite "difficult", or better: limiting for your choices of variable tastes, to eat healthy. If you really would want to excessively eat "healthy only" food, you are indeed pretty much limited to just fish, meat, eggs, salt and water. I admit I dont see that I could ever become this "extreme". But there even is a name for it: only red meat, salt and water is called lion's diet for sure.

He mentions that the ominous substance is in beer. That is correct, and is true also for german beer that is brewed according to the German purity order. But keep in mind that alcohol-free beer has even more content of this substance, than usual beer. ;) I admit I was not aware of that, too, until recently. Now I have a new problem... :-?


The German purity order for beer has one advantage, still. It bans an awfully long list of E-coded chemical agents, sweeteners and sugars from being put into beer, and many other artificial additives as well. It was not meant to be like that, but indeed was meant as an order to not put rightout dirt, feces, blood and toxic stuff (we talk about the 16th century) into it. Much of the exotic flavours you get from non-German beers often are the result of simply, adding chemical agents. The idnustr yover here says this is the reaoisn why German beer is increasingly popular outside Germany (while in Germany the consummuation rates are dropping). But this excursion just as a sidenote. The morlöa by the end of the day is: if you want to lose weight, contor,my pour weight, you have no other choice, you miust abandon beer, no matter whether it is full beer, alcohol-free beer, or light beer. Of these three, acohol free beer is the worst (!!!, due to the maximum of content of this ominous substance), and (German) light beer does the least evil - but good it is not.



Yeah, I know, sometimes life sucks. I feel it, too, believe me.

[mapuc]

This thread is about health and food.

Found this interesting food historical article via a Danish newspaper.

Early human hunter-gatherers ate mostly plants and vegetables, according to archeological findings that undermine the commonly held view that our ancestors lived on a high protein, meat-heavy diet.

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024/jan/24/hunter-gatherers-were-mostly-gatherers-says-archaeologist

Markus

[Eichhörnchen]

@ Marc

I just went and checked our beer and it contains nothing from Dr Berg's naughty list. It's "Rheinbacher Pilsner 0%" and we buy this from Aldi for our boy, so he doesn't end up like me

It's beginning to feel like we can't safely eat anything now, but surely Dr Berg's diets are always going to be a luxury (maybe not the right word) most of us have neither the time, willpower or money to adhere to. He's a bit of a genius in his field for sure (I watched his piece about Apple Cider Vinegar the other day) but for most people I'd guess these eating regimes will not survive the first contact with real life?

PS - Moira's been busy today but does intend to read your previous post asap :)

[Skybird]

@Eichhörnchen,
Yes, its difficult if needing to stick with what the supermarket usually offers. And its even worse since it is not a sif the stuff does not taste - it often does taste.
Also, they make meat more and more expensive to bring people away from it without being accused of having banned it, and the EU wants to do like this with all animal foodsd and animal prpotein: milk, eggs, chicken, pork - everything animal protein should ebcome unaffordable. Thats why I do not buy organic meat, it costs twice as much than beef from conventional lifestock - and more. And they wan tto make it even much more expensive. At the same time schools and kidnergardenm morer and mroe enforce veganism. The kids must grow, their brains and nerovus systems still develope - and thes ebastards have nothignb better to do than to cut down nutrients that are essential for brain developement. I already know now how this will end, the costs will become visible in elss than a generation, and even already are ovvious in form of many psychological and cognitive disorder that spread in our young generations like a pandemic.

We have these wonderful big farming monocultures and oil seeds, you know, and the agricultural lobby wants to make sure that their stuff gets bought by people. These agricultural companies and cereal industries often are proxies of or are linked to the 7th Day Adventist Church, like Kellogs and Graham are, for example. And this sect wants to enforce all people turning vegan, eatoing the garden Eden diet as they call it - they work since 100 years to get there, and bidne nwo has made their goal official health policy in the US, the dietariuan guidelines are fully reflecting their demands now. They also have bought themselves in at the WHO. So, health arguments meet ideolgocial-sectarian conspiracy. Its like a Philip K. Dick novel.

On critical food items, however, some things are worse than others, and when it comes to sweetening, this is true twice and three times. At the very top of the red list is high fructose corn syrup, and maltodextrin, followed by the others. Refined white sugar is not worst! Its very bad, absolutely, but a few things are even worse than it. HFCS. Maltodextrin. Glucose corn syrup. And this stuff is in practically everything these days - everything.

Also, ingredients that are not exceeding certain vol% of a given package content - must not be declared. A loophole that the industry massively abuses and that the politicians have granted them, like they often do. Tell the voters that you regulated something as demanded, and allow the regulated party to nevertheless escape.

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@Markus,

the biggest empire known in history were the Huns/Mongoles. They were strong, fearful people from the Asian steppes and formed the biggest territory any empire ever accumulated. They were fearsome, strong, very resistent to weklanes and desease, and as warriors they were feared and stronger and tougher than the men of the people they haunted and conquered. They lived of meat from their horses, blood of their horses, and milk of their horses.

When Thomas Jefferson met Indian chieftains once, and this is documented, he exclaimed afterwards, full of enthusiasm, how huge these men would have been, towering over him by one or one and a half head lengths, he couldn't get his head around it. Now Jefferosn himself was a damn tall fellow, he would have been a baskertball star today before he became president. The white settlers also reported that the Indian men were still hunting buffalo with the young men at the age of 90, 100 and beyond, and that many of them lived to be around 120.

In recent years, most anthropologists have stopped the narration that our ancestors prospered when agricultural farming was invented and introduced. Instead it is clear that tribes living a harsh life in desert-like, infertile regions that allowed no farming, were tough and phyisclaly strong, and needed to move around since they depended on animal lifestock they ate and had learned to herd. You can see very often in history on all continents, that where such animal-eating people "collided" with people that had moved to eating cultivated plants that allowed them to live a stationary life, the attackers often were tougher, stronger and the better warriors. The yha dbetter pshyaicla stamina. The plant eaters over time suffered form physicla degewnration. Their body height shrunk. The jawbones shrunk, they had bad teeth that did not find enough space anymore (like with so many modern people today). They got easier sick. They wre not as strong anymore. Heck, even brain size shrunk over the past 6000-12000 years, we have lost around 12-15% of the brain size our ancestors before that time had.

A famous field study from almost 100 years ago (I think 1931) compares the Massai to their direct neighbours, the Kikuju. Its a textbook study of such high exemplary value that it often gets quoted. Both tribes lived in the same habitat, so environmental factors did not explain any pohysi8cla differences between them. But their dietary habits did: the Massaid lived of the meat, blood and milk of their cows and buffalo, the Kikuju were vegetarian.

The Massai of that time were very high, tall people, muscular, tough, feared warriors with great endurance and stamina. They got rarely sick. The Kikuju were grown much smaller, had smalle rheads, were of lesser physical power, stamina, endurance, and tooth problems and faulty tooth positioning in the jaw bone were frequent. They got easier and more often sick, too.

They now did that archeological work in that place the article your link describes. Well, that is one place in this whole wide world, and we know not wiyh the people who lived mtheir ate what they ate. Maybe they had no other choice, no animal food was available. However, that Southamerican indians lived of Quinoa and Amaranth, whcih ahs its benefiots in nutrient content, but we do not know HOW wlel the ylive dof it, hwo their dogestion was, for exmaple. We do nto know if they volunteered for it, or lacked alternatives, had no lifestock. Considering the size of their empires, lackign animals to eat might have been a problem. We do know however that they were small in body height than the ordinary European person back then or today.

Note that there is a strong ideological publication bias nowadays in all media to write about how healthy and good and how climate-friendly and how animal friendly vegetarian food is. Its a propaganda war goign on. You read almost never in these media about the nurtient deficiency, the toxic nature of plant seed oils (which get sold to us as espoecialyl halthy...). I rea dmany warnigns of eggs. Eggs! That is hiolarious, but some years ago Taft university rled that the nutriotnal vlaue of candy-saweet breakfats cereals by Kellos were multiple times healthier than eating an egg and a slice of meat! Can one take that serious anymore? We now get frightned that red meat causes cancers (BS, btw.), and the Harvard university is especially infamous now for time and again supporting the war against eating animal protein.

The EU now tells us we should get used to eating cultivated insects. I could write a long essay on why that is not really a good idea both regarding health and energy consumption, this idea is as foolish as it sounds on first hear.

All this gets firther pushed by the eU under the claim of fightign agaunst CO2 and in the name iof its green deal policies. While the UN says the food production must get inbcrwased by 50-60% until 2050, the EU wants to reduce famrignb ground in Europe - while 30-40% of the potnetiually famrign ground in the whikew world is not beig cuktivate dbecasue it is unaccessibke for mahcienry of more prmjtive menas fo farming. why do we not sow grass, put cows and buffalo on it, and let nature do its thing? That woudl be the most natural food production imaginable. We have done it for thousands of years. Same in Europe where spoils are depleted and almost sterilized. We could renew the soils - by allowing grass and cattle taking care of it. Take just a few years. But no... That is against the inetrests of the cereals lobby. the agricultrurla lobby. The wowener of the mbiog monocultzurss that are such a big damage. The oil seeds indiustry. The sugar industry.

They want you to buy that bad stuff so that you get fat and sick. And they want you to then buy their drugs. And the systenm wants you to need hospital treatment. In other words: everybody expects you to generate him profits - at your own cost. The looser in all this is you. You loose in health. In life quality. In labour chances. In income. In social life quality.

And in the end: in life expectancy. The meanign of your life is: to generate them endless profits all your existence long.

https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/The-matrix-Morhpeus-Human-battery-Machines-run-on-human-power-1.jpg


I cannot explain the specific details, but I read that somethign with the telomeres in our genes (that shorten a bit with every celluar replication round and trigger apoptosis once a critical lenght has been reached) allowed biologists to conclude from them the natural life expectncy that humans could enjoyif all goes well: its around 120 years. And there we recall what I said about the Northameircna Indians, that the ylived up to 120 years,a dn went on bufalo hunt with 100 years, so obvipously they did nto sit in a wheelchair the last 50 years of these 120 years. THEY HUNTED BUFFALO.



And how do we end these days? Dementia. Atrophy. Diabetes and obesity. And we get hit even long before halftime of these 120 years.


Or they oput us into a caretaking home, an d they feed us "food" wirth 1,20 a day, and then we wonder why people in there are so hopelessly depleted in essential micro and macro nutrioents and trace elements so that every little virus casts an extinction verdict - becasue the oi ndustry wnats to seel drugs until the coffin instead of having the elderlxy beignimmunsied by raising their Vitamine D levels beyond 50 ngr/ml - with a vitamine pill worth less than 2.5 cents per day.



Mass murder. Genocide.


If you feel betrayed for your life now, you should ask questions then, dont you think? For exmaple what is it that makes the difference between them Indians who got 120 years old, and us?

Less toxines in the environment, maybe.

Or more appropriate food.

[Skybird]

My old friend, the D-vitamin...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAfVC4l5uZ0


Slowly it becomes common knowledge, even if the industry and its political minions try to suppress it.


Also take a solid dosis of Magnesium, a solid dosis of K2 , and - wonder oh wonder, I thought I would not see it happening - they now also start to quote Zinc in context with Vit D , so take Zinc as well, and if your daily dosis of Vitamin D is not above 40,000 IU or that high bolus dosis you took did not exceed 100,000 to 150,000 IE, you are with highest probability SAFE. Let no doctor or politician tell you something differernt as long as they cannot specify a dedicated diagnosis for a health problem you have that forbids taking Vitamin D in these doses. If you do not have any contradicting health conditions, a daily dosis beyond 20,000 however is most likely in vain, and a waste of it. Normally the body stops producing beyond this daily limit, which means: a.) the body is prepared to handle around 20,000 IE per day, and b.) the body seems to not make beneficial use of any more than that.

[mapuc]

I made a little research on this D-vitamine thing.

I asked google if it a person can get to much of D-vitamine

Here's the answer
(translated from Danish)

The symptoms of too much vitamin D are manifested by too much calcium/lime being transported into the blood. It can cause nausea, headache and constipation. If you have overdosed on vitamin D in very large quantities for a very long time, it can cause kidney stones

Then I asked what is the daily dosis:

You must not consume more than the recommended dose of vitamin D daily, i.e. between 5-20 micrograms depending on your age and behavior in and around the sun. Side effects from overdose are only seen in practice with too high a dose of dietary supplements (typically over 100 micrograms per day)

Which I find somewhat wrong-My doctor told me to buy D3 Vitamine 35 microgram.

Markus

[Skybird]

^ Drivel. What do you expect if you ask such a question to Google? The search results are manipulated, btw, Google gets paid for pushing search results up and down on the list with results. He who pays the most, gets listed on top.

There is also a general publication bias in favour of industry-lobbied conventional paradigm-compliant results. And it is right these paradigms that I so heavily criticise in this thread, dont I.

I also gave plenty and plenty of video links where doctors and scientists shredder these biased, industry-friendly paradigms. They base for the most on simply fraudulent science. Industry-financed fraudulent science.

Or go back to the Covid thread, Jim keeps on uodatign the vidoe list by Dr. John Campbell.

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I say it again: toxicity with Vitamine D is something you can safely ignore if staying below a daily dose of 40,000 or a bolus dosis of 100,000 to 150,000. And even then it is fully reversable if it woudl be reached. 10-20 thosuzand poer day, together with K2, Magneisum, Zinc? Perfectly fine.

Some weeks ago I linked to a video where they by mistake gave hundreds of babies in Turkey 3000 times as much Vitamine D as was recommended, its somewhere earlier in this thread. What happened? Nothing. A value went up, a value went down,a nd that wa sit, end of story. These horror stories on kidney stones and destroying your kidneys and livers and all that - they are myth-busted nonsense stories that have been debunked many, many times already. But the industry and its political allies want to bring people away from taking Vitamine D, or C, or anything, the EU even works on effectively prohibiting it (kindly advised from "experts" from Big Pharma and Big Agriculture), so that people get and stay ill and buy expensive drugs from Big Pharma and buy corns and crops and carb stuff and sugar from the food indusrtry. They want you to get fat and ill - dig it! When you are healthy, they can make no money out of you! The ymake money by selling your junk food that makes you ill, and then they make money by selling you drugs to "treat" that illness they broguht upon you! They porevent oyu from eating helathy stuff - species adequete food - by demonsiing it as climate killer and ethical crime, and this they do in overkill dosis due to their dominance in public media and official policy making. The lies get endlessly repeated, no matter what evidence is being given to counter them, until people believe it. Or alternatives to their ways get outright legally banned. They control education. They contorl university. They control and corrupt "science". Thgey privatize scinritic debate, by that they porevent scientific disucssion and the scinetific methodology. They prevent the endless search fir truth, but delcare the search as fulfilled and ended -a dnthem being the guardians of that final penultimat truth . That claim alone is the total antithesis to the very essence of how science works!

heck, in the 80s in the US they even banned the sale of Vitamine C for some time, for this reason! And until today many US hospitals have forbidden their ERs to store vitamine C as ready infusions for emeergencies, they should instead use expensive Big Pharma drugs that create profit both for the hospitall and the industry. How inhumane are such practices...?

Its organised crime, and corrupt politics and heavy industry lobbying conspire against the common good - and the individual'S health interests.

They want you ill and sick, will you finally get it! They dont want you to eat natural healthy food adequate for our species - they want you to eat their mass-produced dirt so that they can make money with your resulting suffering! Agricultural and parma industry: They are drug dealers.

As an introduction, read "Primal Panacea" by Thomas Levy, 2011, and "The Big Fat Surprise" by Nina Teichholz, 2012.

Link 1 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Primal-Panacea-Thomas-Levy/dp/0983772800/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1VY04Y0HOKTXR&keywords=primal+panacea+dr+thomas+levy&qid=1707153068&sprefix=primal+panacea%2Caps%2C78&sr=8-1)
Link 2 (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Big-Fat-Surprise-butter-healthy/dp/192522810X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1A7RA5XJAQ7YL&keywords=big+fat+surprise&qid=1707153388&sprefix=big+fat+surprise%2Caps%2C77&sr=8-1)

Both books are serious crime stories, documenting international crime on a scale that is beyond most people's imagination. Its frightening, sicne their power is almost undisputed. And so many corrupt officials and profiteers can instead argue that the crime lies in that these heretic books even exist.

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryT2Z3DA95E

[Skybird]

Three quick shots en passant, to make your day. :D

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_3SLWyF29H0?feature=share


https://youtube.com/shorts/aRlI4GfD6eU?feature=shared


https://youtube.com/shorts/UrPUvNsrpfg?feature=shared

[Skybird]

She is a hero of investigative health journalism. Her book was a bomb.

https://youtu.be/hzQAHITIUhg?si=8IqBy3Tq_o2OkrbB

[Skybird]

Creative reasoning. I learned quite a lot that was new to me.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuWk_VkAs3g


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R0f1I0xxlE

[Skybird]

Power for people. :D



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MadME9vtStU

[Skybird]

:wah: But I love my French-pressed coffee!


He says that tis better to filter coffee, the small particles from the grinded beans in the filter help to filter out these diterpenes, they will no longer keep "good" cholesterol HDL from rising and will no longer push triglycerides up.


Well. Should I believe this: the griunded beam powder beign able to filter out particles the size of molecules?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6thxv-ndu0


Throw some iron nails into the coffeepot. If they swim on top, the coffee's done.

[Gerald]

I never got stuck with coffee like that and beside to much hunting for unhealthy stimulans it have to be balans in digestion that's way I let my machine take care of that..😊

[Skybird]

I neither need nor feel the caffeine kick, I like coffee with a very mild sweetness and some cream or condensed milk for the taste of this mix. But only earlier in the day - from early afternoon on I like it not, as if the taste had been changed, but I may have a - this time very sweet - espresso in the late afternoon or early evening ( I stay up long into the night anyway). So, to me its all about craving for the taste, not about "need".

But its undeniably true that coffee has a strong physiological effect in digestion. I would reocmmend to not have meds or supps with coffee, it can speed up their passage through the digestive system to a degree where they really lose efficiency, also, you lose plenty of salt, you gotta replace that salt. Also, I never have coffee on empty stomach, the effect of castor oil could not be more devastating.

Originally, caffeine is a highly potent neurotoxin that plants use to fight off bugs. In other words, caffeine is a pesticide. Bug sucks it in with the plants' tasty juices, and then its brain get chemically grilled and bug drops dead. Seen this way, it is perfectly logical to not drink coffee (or tea). And this is just regarding caffeine - there are many, many more toxins in it, too. Or as Dr. Chaffee always says: "Plants are trying to kill you!"

Similar things could be said about legumes, beans... Thats why you usually gotta cook the #### out of it (or roast the coffee beans) to make it a bit better digestable. Completely non-toxic this all never gets, probably. Human-sprayed pesticides are the least of your concerns in this chemical cocktail plants attack you with to make you stop eating them.

Eating this over decades of your life most likely has cumulative effects that one day result in you getting some interesting diagnosis from your Doc, for auto-immune deaseases, inflammatory deseases, hormonal dysbalances... Its no wonder, by your plant-eating diet you set your body under decades-long chemical attack.

[Gerald]

Since 60 days in a row with carnivore diet it feels good and in fact a natural way to live and just wondering why I didn't start this before 🤔. On coffee ☕ I like only 2 time at day before I buy bean and mixed from various shop and that was to perfect in the long run so I go back to let a touch from my fingers choose what to do. :🙄

[Skybird]

You - carnivore...? Welcome to the club! Give eggs and butter some love, too. LOL

[Gerald]

Thanks! I admit it was a bit hard from scratch but after awhile it became clear.👍

[Skybird]

When many doctors still claim that there are no studies, and that we must wait for studies done, this borders a criminal assault.



I checked the medical databsae pubmed again on vitamin d. It lists over 104,000 entries, dating back to 1922.



But "we need more studies." "We do not know." "We must wait for the data."



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLUoX4YEjqk


Same lies are being told on vitamin c, which in the 80s even was prohibited to sell in the US for a period of time, and after that for a long time was allowed only to be sold in therapeutically irrellevant doses. I just checked pubmed on vitmain c again, too, and every time I do that, every couple of months, the number has grown by a few hundred and sometimes even low thousands. Pubmed lists over 76,000 entries for studies on vitamin c, studies dating back to as far as 1921. You find more than 10,000 more if you add "ascorbin acid" as a search term.



Number of researches they also show per year, in a graph. Vitman D research saw almost an explosion in research activity in the past 15 -20 years, steeply climbing from year to year , while research done on vitamin C saw a coinstant climb in yearly studies sinc eth elat 70, with a plateau on high niveau form 2013-2017, and the startiugn ti climb evry year since again.


"We do not know."


"We need more data."


"Its unfounded claims."


When you hear your doctor telling you such BS - grab your coat and run.

[Skybird]

Short and clear.



https://youtube.com/shorts/CTcc1X9WSJ4?si=j1xAP-VBUrX-JRPv


https://youtube.com/shorts/a7U9nGpoOM8?si=NS4pqlkl-qu-4yob

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrO3ws1ypUY


He is wrong however where he says in the beginning that sources of vitamin K2 are dark leafy greens. That is not correct enough to generalise it like this. K1 you get from vegetable sources, whereas K2 is from animal sources and fermented foods, especially - yummy-yummy - Natto :doh:. K1 and K2 are not similar, K1 is mostly associated with blood coagulation (thats where the name vitamin K comes from: from the German word "Koagulation", since it were Germans discovering this link), whereas K2 is associated with the hydroxilation (for practical terms means: activation) of GLA proteine and osteocalcine, which both are busy with bringing calcium from the bloodstream and from plaque into the teeth and bones.
I find it difficult to believe that so many "doctators" mix K1 and K2 together and do not seem to know how different they indeed are. There is no meaning and no sense in treating K1 and K2 together as if they were the same.

Far beyond "anecdotal".



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuOn_0WTKYs

I missed this one. Two of my "heroes, Dr. Ken Berry has the "iodine pope" :) Dr. David Brownstein. I follow the recommendations of Brownstein since years now.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oix26uuBfZg

[Skybird]

"Fixing Medicine". What he pours out in stories and facts is unbelievable. His lectures are always crystal clear, logical, wellfounded, you hear somebody talking who really did and understood his homework. He deserves applaus, respect, attention. That he also has a sense of humour, is an additional benefit.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDq3HHExpnY