On Health

[Skybird]

Damn libido. You eat the flesh, you think of the flesh. :haha:


https://youtube.com/shorts/DaNTDz-u9ng?feature=shared

[Skybird]

In the near future, they will put you in chains and pull you before a court if your fridge looks like this.

https://youtube.com/shorts/mjC83PrMMxE?feature=shared

Here in my place I would not even know where to buy meat in formats like that. 7 of 8 butchers have shut down in town, most supermarkets have reduced or already abandoned meat or plan to do so, and it gets so expensive intentionally that nobody can afford it anymore.

A drugged population is a sick population is a weak population is a population easier to control is a popuation that is easier to milk coins from.

Its threatening.

They want us all to eat dirt and spend much money of severe drugs that make us addicted junkeys. We should eat insect flour. Undigestable plants filled with chemical toxines, carcinogenes, pesticides (build by plants mind you) and a dozen further categories of toxines and anti-nutrients that make us ill, and probably cause the great lion's share of modern civilizational deseases that hautn the world everywhere where Western diet rules have taken over. They have a million of rotten, foul excuses for their dirty deeds. And they are all lies. There is probably no other issue in the last 100 years where people have been so fundamentally lied to and manipulated as the claims about 'nutritious' plant-based diets and veganism and vegetarianism.

I just learned that even the much hailed "mediterranean diet" and the often claimed benefit of olive oil - are constructed myths. Yes, they used poliv eoil in acnient times. But not for eatinglk they did not eat it - but for bidy cleaning. They poiled thmsleves with it, and then sacratched the oils film of their skin again with a sharp blad,e comoaravle to a razor. THAT IS what olive oil was used for in ancient Greece and Rome! And the "mediterranean diet" ä- bases on food habit exlcusively in parts of Crete and some small regions in southern Italy. Spoain, france, the rest of Italy and Greece, the Adratic states, Turkey, the Middle, East North Africa - the VERY DIFFERENT diets from all these regions are not reflected in the "mediterranean diet". They constructed this myth, in the 70s. And with assistance from advertizing experts. Mediterranean diet is an urban-mythological construct.

Dont be surprised - I mean even Santa Claus is just a Coca-Cola man.

[Skybird]

Cancel Cuisine: A roast is more than a lump of fiber

An article recently appeared on Achgut.com about the supply of artificial meat and artificial milk to humanity. Do we really want this? I don't want it and I have good reasons. A rebuttal.

On the way back from a vacation in Provence, we recently stopped at the chateau of French friends on the Rhone, diagonally opposite a nuclear power plant that reliably supplies the patron's heat pump with cheap electricity. The landlady, a passionate cook, served us for lunch - in France the "dejeuner" is still the most important meal of the day - a post-Easter roast lamb, a wonderfully juicy, tender and aromatic piece of meat, three hours together in a heavy Le Creuset roaster cooked in the shell with chestnuts and garlic. Plus a pumpkin gratin gratinated with Comté cheese and fresh baguette. A dish from the Ardèche, French home cooking par excellence based on the best farm produce.

A few days earlier we had visited the covered market in Nimes, also a revelation of French food culture. And on every corner of this beautiful, gourmet country between the Rhone, the Southern Alps and the Mediterranean there is an oil mill where you can buy the famous southern French olive oil, which is difficult to obtain in Germany. The best is said to come from Nyons, where it has its own appellation contrôlée for the famous black Tanche olive. Not to forget the countless wineries, the small farms where you can buy fresh goat cheese, the first asparagus and fresh strawberries.

And in every larger town there is a market at least once a week where local producers offer their goods and where you can't get enough of it. With each visit, the supply that is transported home by car grows. The most important reason why I don't like traveling by plane. There is only enough space in the suitcase for at most a single bottle of olive oil and if it bursts and leaks as a result of rough handling at the airport, that would be a very unpleasant mishap.

If, under the spell of these impressions, you read an article that recently appeared on Axis (Meat and milk without animals? Don't dismiss it straight away!), the message formulated there seems a bit bizarre. The report advocates artificial meat and artificial milk from the bioreactor and declares traditional, rural agriculture to be phased out. After reading the headline, I initially just read the comments, as I always do when I prefer not to notice an article. I am committed to repressing things that are not good for me, even if psychologists think that is wrong. And yes, I also own up to my neuroses.

But then I read the report. One of the most important theses of the article: Synthetically produced meat is real meat and should therefore be treated and valued equally. “If the stuff from the bioreactor tastes like a steak, looks like a steak, feels and smells like a steak, then there is no rational argument not to accept it as a steak.” The same applies to artificially produced milk.

The fact that the German dairy company Hochland is among the investors in the Israeli artificial milk company Remilk says nothing and will not deprive the “Black Forest farmer” of her sleep. The former meat product producer Rügenwalder Mühle also made a lot of noise about its vegan substitute products and advertised it with sayings like “Gender is like sausage without meat”, but sales have recently plummeted. Apparently the woke strategy didn't work.

What I have so far consumed as a plant-based vegan meat substitute, for testing reasons and with great reluctance, had nothing remotely to do with meat or with the products that people tried to imitate with a lot of chemicals. I haven't tasted synthetic meat from the bioreactor yet. Such “meat” already exists, and it may be that at some point it will be possible to grow clumps of fiber that resemble meat in texture and taste at reasonable cost and in marketable quantities.

But a nice roast (see above) is much more than just a lump of fiber. It is a complex interplay of the genetic makeup of each animal, which is also the result of centuries of breeding efforts, its lifestyle, food and, if one considers the example of Japanese Kobe cattle (in whose stables classical music is sometimes played), the direct attention from the respective animal owners in the socio-cultural context of a long tradition. Does anyone believe that the textural and taste diversity cannot only be ignored?

We eat due to biochemical need. Not due to ideology, politics and religion, but due to the fact that our metabolism is the deciding factor that rules what is healthy and good for us and what not. What happens inside cells and in the metabolical context, is biochemistry. What happens outside of cells and the metabolism, is ideology and power politics to gain control over people. Every species has its species-adequate diet that supports its health and fostering. Violate this diet, and this species gets ill, and shortens its life span. That simple and factual it is. Zero room for ideology and politics.

Meat consist of such an enormous diversity of different molecule classes, of vitamins, minerals, trace elements, fatty acids of very specific and different qualities, different tissues, complex molecules forming further structures, that it is so far impossible to copy even just one single sort of meat on a 1:1 basis in the lab. The nutrient density and nutrient mix is different from real meat. Take cattle, and feed it with (species-adequate) grass, take the same cattle and feed it with (species-inadequate) soy and corn, and you get very different mixture of fatty acids in its fat cells and milk. If already the diet with oen and the same animal makes a material, health-deciding difference, how can one dare to think one can recreate the complexity of the essence of meat in the lab...??? And thats why I have changed my mind. In earlier years I would have said I would be willing to try lab meat. But I now say: no, never. Give me our species-adequate diet. The original - not the broken, corrupted copy.

If it were simply looks and nthat w elike the taste, then even a marcipane potatoe or marcipane steak made by famous company Niederegger would be a "potatoe", would be "meat". Obviously nobody eats a marcipane steak praliné and claims he is eating meat. Why would you claim that oat milk or soy milk is "milk" then? That lab meat is "meat"? Its part of the defition and meaning of the terms "meat" and "milk" that both are of animal origin. Real, living animal origin.

Reality stands in the way of modern revolutionists trying to replace everything. Thats why they want to claim dominance over redefining terms and meaning of words and terminology, and want to alter reality perception, even want to enforce that everybody has to comply with their new relabelings, and if he does not, he gets sanctioned, economically destroyed, even criminalised. Want to control the people? Control the language before anything else. Its about deconstructing reality, to take away from people every possibility to orientate themselves, to stand on a solid basis to make their own conclusions and choices and decisions. Control the language, then you can label even dirt as somehting healthy to eat. Orwell had so much to say about this topic alone: the importance of controlling language.

If it is completely man-made - dont eat it. If it is highyl industrially processed, dont eat it. If it is an artificially created copy of something from nature - dont eat it. You get the idea. We are biochemical carnivores, and pragmatic omnivores. We should stay with the first alone, if we can. Its better for our health, and life expectancy.

[Gerald]

I have a small setback from cheesecake BUT a very small ��.. back on track tomorrow.:D

[Skybird]

You must swell in hell , no doubt. :D

[Gerald]

You must swell in hell , no doubt. :D 😂 😂 😂

[Skybird]

About insuline, fat cells and metabolic health.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAIQCrKjhp0&t=1923s

[Skybird]

Keeping people away from eating meat keeps this population docile and subjugated. Because it is a weakened population unfit to fight.



https://youtube.com/shorts/ZQIZWVQLILs?si=Wmf0Rm_05441NVLW

[em2nought]

Tried some kombucha tea this week, man that stuff tastes positively medicinal. Ack! Won't be buying any of that again. Might try making a drink with a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar instead, and drinking thru a straw so I don't ruin the enamel on my teeth. :D

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAd1DalGeDo

[Skybird]

"If you have healthy mitochondria, you cannot get cancer."

Bold statement. But he has a point.

https://youtube.com/shorts/WFVpvM86EfE?feature=shared

They dont want you to know such things. There is no profit to make from healthy people.

Avoid plant seed oils, sugars (all carbs are sugars). Take good quality Q10 Ubiquinol, the more expensive but much more bioavailable form of (reduced) Q10 that is. Not Ubiquinon - but Ubiquinol. If it is not expensive, be suspicous. Since half year or so the internet market in Germany at least gets flooded with suspicously low-priced claimed over-dosed Ubiquinol, costing just a tenth of the brands known before ( if standardizing the doses). Be suspicous of that, I dont trust these offers, I at least believe to know that the production of it IS expensive, you cannot help it. The market for supplements in parts is seriously messed up. Always check for the production location (not just a sales office) being in Germany, EU, US. Then they must comply with their according laws and standards.

[Skybird]

Very relevant, far beyond the field of medicine and Big Pharma.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFsgWyxzvXI

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/wis_eiMA_sQ?si=ROL_KOATX_BBchsN

[Gerald]

Interesting perspective 🤔

[Skybird]

Interesting perspective ��
They tried to suppress the sale of vitamine C in the US. Of Boron in Australia. The EU and the WHO try to put a lock on the availability of supplements in therapeutically effective dosis alltogether.

They frequently run campaigns against Omega 3. Vitamine D. Salt. Red Meat anyway. They scare monger and raise fear campaigns. They lie. They endlessly repeat the lies, over and over and over again. For years. For decades. They know they are lying, they know what they tell are lies, they know they invented their lies with a clear intention and purpose - they keep on lying nevertheless, and keep their info proving they are lying locked away. They corrupt science to prevent critical analysis getting known. They corrupt science to turn it into propaganda, to add credibility to their lies. The destroy scientific disicussion and replace it with manipulated and obligatory consent. Resistence to that is under social and more and more often: legal penalty.

The biggest financier of "alternative veggie meat" startups and lab meat companies is not the agricultural lobby as one might imagine - but Big Pharma.

THEY WANT US SICK. They make us sick and earn money with that. They keep us sick and make more money with that. They actively lure us away from knowledge and information on how to regain health, to earn more money from us. And frequently they try to even legally forbid it that we seek and act for our health ourselves, self-responsibly. They abuse us. They ruin us.

They are criminal, cynical, murderous scumbags. And they kill - in masses and masses.

The whole academical branch of ecotrophology was founded by the 7th Day Adventist Church, thats why it is infested with extreme, radical veganism since all beginning on. The American food and health policies and the Health and Food Associations since over one hundred years are fundamentally influenced and ursurped and taken over by the Adventists. The recent dietary guidelines (and their versions before) now officially recommended in the US - are the whole Adventist curriculum of the Garden Eden diet (=veganism). And much of the world follows the American "authorities". The majority of the wheat production in the world is controlled by Adventist proxy companies. Most of the soy production in the world is controlled by Adventist proxies. And they get their marketing done for them by Coca Cola, since almost two decades now. The whole concept of modern "lifestyle medicine" - is an Adventist invention, a propaganda campaign. And they ruin the youth from its youth years on.

Big Pharma. Agricultural corporations. Cereal corporations. Sugar companies. Plant seed oil producers. Soy producers. Corn producers. Coca Cola. Religious sectarians. All united to wage war on mankind with the goal to subjugate everybody and make profit of them and destroy their health and well being and to shorten their life expectancy - for profit.

Lifestock. Thats what we are for them.


We should treat then like we treat drug cartel bosses. Just that drug cartels dont have their reach.

[Gerald]

"Be happy 😁 to our company..https://youtu.be/U0YkPnwoYyE?si=hz0E8j1Fr5dYBgBw

[Skybird]

Ah, a film from before the galactic empire. :D

[Rockstar]

https://youtu.be/MrQnIIcv6NI?feature=shared

[Skybird]

A summary of an utmost excellent book, the summary written by the author herself.


https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/features/the-science-of-saturated-fat-a-big-fat-surprise-about-nutrition-9692121.html


Should be mandatory reading for every doctor and student of medicine. Its unbelievable what 50 years old lying crap they are still being taught on this topic.

[mapuc]

D-Vitamin once again

- The groundbreaking thing is that the effect goes through the intestinal microflora and then through the immune system and affects the risk of cancer. We already knew about the immune system part. The fact that it passes through the bacterial composition of the intestine is new.

https://ekstrabladet-dk.translate.goog/nyheder/samfund/forskning-viser-sammenhaeng-mellem-d-vitamin-og-risiko-for-kraeft/10210993?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Markus

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMahgg9tVUc

[Skybird]

Cancer is no genetic desease, but a metabolic dysfunction.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwhRskOPwVk&t=166s

[Skybird]

The sun is not just about vitamin D.
I mentioned infrared and interferon production in the past. Dr. Mason has far more lots to say about sunlight.


His conclusion on the study mentioned at 14th minute you better take with several big rocks of salt however. 800 IE are severely underdosed and do not even comply with in many western countries laws to obligatorilu supply small children in the first 18 to 24 months with 1500 to 2000 IU of vitamin D. So that there is no effect shown in that study is absolutely no surprise. His following mentioning of meta analysis also must be seen critically, since he does not mention the doses of vitamin d the included studies worked with. I know from reading about all this since years that the vast majority of such studies, especially on vitamin d and c, usually work with therapeutically inefficient or low efficient doses. I take 20000 in 7 dark months of the year and 10000 in the bright months - and not for no reason.


Supplementing nutrients get often discredited by doing studies with so low doses that no therapeutically effect is shown - guaranteed. This is not to say Dr. Masons intend was like that. I give him the benefit of doubt on this.


https://youtu.be/Kvh4D_osFXs?si=RYjbvhjtaKa0wqYJ

[Skybird]

Still watching, Rockstar? :salute:

https://youtu.be/rlM9apL8W5o?si=DPnzH5jqYLzRmmZ6

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/cUkAjIl5JrE?si=fd8njBL_eSy5EUkP

[Skybird]

Treating autoimmune desease with treatment they try to almost ban.


https://youtube.com/shorts/aOAdo-Hb0eY?si=kSPDS84s69sppx7X

They want you sick, weak and depending.

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This is why I never eat filet steak, and dont buy chicken anymore althougb I like it: opprotein is not enoguh, you need the fat as well, you want fatty meat, not lean meat. Thats why for me Entrecote/Ribeye beast filet any time and why I have ground beef and additionally fat-enriched burger patties frequently (also, I like ground beef, too).

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[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/sGG-A80Tl5g?si=dbA71UKtejLsIqIU

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1kyubykrvA


Bon appetit.



Reminds of Crisco: a product well-known and much used in the US since the middle of the first half of past century as a butter replacement, but now since decades already been forgottehn again thank God. Originally the - content, to out it this way, of Cricso is basing on a lubricant developed by German and Austrian engineers to be used in U-Boats.


And rape seed oil. Originally never intended for human consumption, it was produced as a basis for producing lamp pil and - soap.



The promotiion of the oh so healthy Meditarranean diet and olive oil - a hoax, almost, the result of a marketing campaign from the early 70s on, to protect the culturla good of olive oil proctuon in Italy and Greece. No real evidence for or aga8mnst anything her,e not even a consensus in what Meditaranean diet is. What thy claim iot is, bases of a few hunbdred male idnsoduavl'S diet on Crete, and a small population in a few regions of Southern Italy, and the statiscla anylsis leaves ppenty ot be diesire, to put it very poiltely and very mildly. - All to be nicely readin Nina Teichholz' formidable book The Big Fat Surprise. There she even elaborates on that they even faked traslation of Homer to "quote" him on that in the Ancient era people in the Mediterranean area actually consummed olive oil. The didn't, it was used as a skin soap agent and skin creme instead. Nobody ate it. The only thing that makes Mediterranean diet, no matter how you actually want to define it, indeed healthier than other food regiments is that it drastically cuts down sugars.

We should do like our grandparents did. Use only fats that at room temperature are solid, and do stem from animals then automatically, and are not industrially processed at all. Help me - how long was human evolution lasting so far so that formed and designed us and our current biochemistry...? To consume plant seed oils is an absolutely new and evolutionary untested stupdidty that is around since not even 150 years so far. Biologically we are not adapted to that after this ridiculously short ammount of time at all. I win a lot of beef tallow when I fry ground beef, and patties. I collect it in a cup and put it in the fridge. That and butter and ghee and occasionally Coconut oil. thats the only stuff I use now. I have even sorted out my beloved roasted sesam seed oil - it oxidates quickly like all liquid oils, one cannot help it. A compromise I accept regarding omega-3 fish oil. I cannot eat fish every day. And capsules may not oxidize, but you do not know, since you cannot smell the content, whether it is done and over already or not. So you must accept it in bottles, stored int he fridge. Ideally we would get all our needed O3s from eating the right stuff, but regarding the wanated quantity that is pragmatically not possible for most of us. Thus I accept a hopefully small evil to win a much bigger gain.

[Gerald]

https://youtu.be/ZvhYfEVNvSY?si=OA4wtEdfK2n5rvvl

[Skybird]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-68989964


It would be interesting to know about the total quantities of toxins found. Its not as if Western food authorities are beyond doubt. I mean this whole thread is full of doubt.

[Gerald]

I wasn't up to species in my previous meat/life style but if you look closer to what custom service have to deal with..
🤔

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/aD7y03rDmFE?si=vR3ASdx233ntMiwp

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/U5ZRzqZQcBc?si=On1FzeyNYBsVlV2W
The WHO works hard for this happening in every other country of the world, too.


The problem in India is the vegetarian/vegan diet, and the use of plant seed oils.


The WHO gangsters currently have revived their campaign against the use of salt, too. Murderous scum they are, bringing dozens of millions to an early death every year.

[Oubaas]

Years ago, I read a book that contained the reminisces of an old cardiologist. He said that despite his long career in cardiology, he had never seen a case of heart disease until 1928.

The book pointed out that two things had happened a few years earlier. Margarine was introduced, and sugar went from being a scarce, expensive luxury item to being inexpensive and commonly available.

I would add to that the fact that the need for physical exertion was beginning to taper off as a necessity of life.

I met a guy who had just had a triple bypass one time. He was forty-two, two years younger than me at the time. Despite being two days older than dirt, I still have a clean bill of health from the cardiologist.

I spent my life prior to retirement in the military. I remember one year I had my annual physical exam, and I asked the doctor how I was doing. He told me, "You're in the kind of shape that I would expect to see in an Olympic athlete."

So if you exercise and don't eat garbage, it seems that you stay pretty healthy, and it serves you well far into old age. I'm still out and about doing chores here on my ranch. I've had younger people help with things and they were out of breath and needed a rest while I was still fresh and ready to go. And I was working harder.

Your health is like a computer. Garbage in, garbage out.

:Kaleun_Cheers:

[Skybird]

Yep , all that ^is correct, AFAIK. Plant seed oils, carbohydrate intoxication, animal fat and protein avoidance, plant toxine consummation in huge quantity, salt avoidance, excessive addicaiton to sugars (plural, there are many forms of sweet sugars, and many are much worse than simple refined white sugar). The situaiton in India is not surprising at all, and is known how it unfolds since many years now.

Western modern food regiment is an attempt of mass slaughtering mankind early and making big profit from this deed. Its industrialized genocide by poisoning.

Two to three generations ago, not longer, our people knew better what and what not to eat, and how to make a healthy meal, and diabetes 2 and adipositas in little kids and osteoporosis in early 30s people were practically unknown. A cancer epidemic like is the case now, skyrocketing allergies, spiking inflammatoryx and chrinic deseases were also on minor levels, so were hormonal dysbalances and chronic diseases. A hundred yeas ago, students nmot rarely had to travel half across a whole country or even continent to see an old patient with CVD or heart attack or stroke.

The industry bosses behidn this know it. THEY KNOW IT. They are amongst the worst criminals in the history of mankind. And now they make the WHO their tool for world dictatorship.

LINKS:

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Nina Teichholz: The Big Fat Surprise. (https://www.amazon.com/-/de/dp/1451624433/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_de_DE=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3 %91&crid=111WU30W2BIJI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.rRrqci7xCXLoSpjKDXYM7Hx86HQxFK1O-MGD9WRnI0-qtG72VsT6XpMSTJQafHBmXReZJudOmSDSsBGae4csTXeEzxuZF nokxQEMkxKUPl35EzTg13vjeGoxf_6ZzIMM42_oYd3NBac9RWa 7g2WlW0oCZPzg2suIdQl8fEKFnB49sCHQUF4ub6GZMKXO69M5a B7wbX-r5TEJmvo36v9lopCKpl9Lv-Jz_JbnLMEVP34.qe1s4vxzfd5sUCaaLTOA7kL9LV18duesKRD6 UcDnBc0&dib_tag=se&keywords=the+big+fat+surprise&qid=1716321604&s=books&sprefix=the+big+fat+surprise%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C855&sr=1-1)

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[Oubaas]

Being an American Indian, I avoid sugar, corn syrup, and all that stuff, and I'm careful about what kind of carbohydrates I eat. Type 2 diabetes is waiting in the wings if I get carried away with what I eat. I try to limit total sugar intake to 100 grams or less per day.

My Dad came down with type 2 diabetes. But he was a stubborn old bear, and he reformed his diet and started getting more exercise and he beat it. He was actually medically confirmed to no longer be diabetic.

So it is possible to turn your health around, even later in life.

:Kaleun_Salute:

[Skybird]

Being an American Indian, I avoid sugar, corn syrup, and all that stuff, and I'm careful about what kind of carbohydrates I eat. Type 2 diabetes is waiting in the wings if I get carried away with what I eat. I try to limit total sugar intake to 100 grams or less per day.


Carbs are sugars, sugars are carbs. Two names, one thing. There are no good carbs. The less, the better. Best is: none, means: if we have sufficient red meat, fish, animal protein and fat available, (we essentially need both, if we eat only lean meat (inclduing chicken etc), we can suffer from nitrogen intoxication sooner or later, and derail our kidneys seriously, thats why I avoid lean filet and lean meats in general, and if I find the ground beef I bought too lean, I add butter or tallow to the dish). In Germany, ground beef sold over the counter usually isn ver ylean, while pre-packed ground beef you pick from the supermarket fridge usually has more fat since fat is considered to be a cheap filler and meat-replacer, its getting looked down on). I prefer it fattier. I read and hear that in the US you almost get no no-lite milk products anymore, its all fat-reduced. Ignoring for a moment that I avoid unfermented milk products in general, I wonder wjhats wrong with people'S tngue,s for lite milk prooiczts taste - well, bad at best, awful more commonly. This habit of selling only lite products unfortunately gets propagated more and more in German stores, too. Terrible.

Daily intake of 100 gr of hidden of defined white sugar? Wowh, that is 11-14 cubes of refined sugar. Very very much, in my book.

But I understand that life still must be injoyable. I sin myself, too, occasionally. And often regret it afterwards when I derailed my digestion, so I learn the hard way to sin less and lesser. Bread, pasta, pans full of veggies I cannot eat anymore without getting mild cramps or turning "liquid". I am completely problem-free if eating only meats, fat. And the good thing is: I lost my preference for the attse of pasta and the likes. I simply dont like it that much at all anymore, and certainly not as much anyore as I did before.



What I find hard to bypass competely is the taste of certain types of nougat chocolate, (carb-reduced) beer, and coffee with condensed mik and a clear taste of - nevertheless mild - sweetness. I try to follow rules, however: in winter not more than one and in summer not more than two bottles of beer, a limited ammount of nougat not more often than once per week, and for the coffee I use Aspartam, one of the lesser evils in the world of sweeteners. Just one mug of coffee per day, in the late morning. Later the day i dont like the taste of it anymore anyway, its strange, my preference for the taste of it has a clear timetable that came all by itself and has nothing to do with needing caffeine. I dont need caffeine, I do not even feel it. I sometimes use cream in the coffee, but by taste I prefer condensed milk, 10% fat. I dirnk no more malts , and a Bailey only every couple of weeks. The taste for wine I have lost completely. Never no sweet drinks, soft drinks, never.


P.S. I took your self-description as American Indian as a reference to being a native American, but if you meant you are an Asian Indian from India living in the US, then my remark on Indian tribes in the prairie of course was - misleading... :D Has somebody ever taken revenge on Columbus for creating this mess? LOL

[Oubaas]

Native American. Northeastern woodland type.

:Kaleun_Cheers:

[Skybird]

Four Youtube Shorts. Diet and autism.

https://youtube.com/shorts/GbPzLbnHj6M?feature=shared

https://youtube.com/shorts/Et6cgSgieuk?feature=shared

https://youtube.com/shorts/T1FgZVuaGp4?feature=shared

https://youtube.com/shorts/CB7Hw61pL4c?feature=shared

[Skybird]

Native American. Northeastern woodland type.

:Kaleun_Cheers:
You mean - pigmentation like this...?


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/US_Woodland_pattern.svg/220px-US_Woodland_pattern.svg.png

:D

[Rockstar]

Native American. Northeastern woodland type.

:Kaleun_Cheers:

Know any Lakota speakers? Trying figure out what heck gawama means. Saw the name written down as such in several census from the late 1880’s

[Oubaas]

You mean - pigmentation like this...?


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/79/US_Woodland_pattern.svg/220px-US_Woodland_pattern.svg.png

:D

Only during my military career.

[Oubaas]

Know any Lakota speakers? Trying figure out what heck gawama means. Saw the name written down as such in several census from the late 1880’s

No, sorry. I know a few words in the Mohawk language, but no Lakota. My family left the reservation the year the Titanic sunk and never looked back. They got jobs, started businesses, and did pretty well. I was raised very mainstream American, and spent my adult life in the military. These days, I'm retired and have a small ranch.

There are quite a few websites on the Lakota language. You might be able to dig around on Google and come up with something.

:Kaleun_Cheers:

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/udqNIZuzOc8?si=N45biYikx4fJDaz2

[Skybird]

One of the best lectures I have so far seen from him. 70 minutes of knowledge, experience and healthy reason.



https://youtu.be/DIRQh4STa6A?si=ka-w9NQ3EsyX_AAD

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0OUs92nOWs

[Skybird]

https://youtube.com/shorts/blqHuxlNAeI?si=aePugsECZV96Xos-

And they sell this shyt as healthy... 🤣 avoid...avoid...avoid
Avoid all plant seed oils. ALL.

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/C549o6jrqEw?si=zvbFijl5hW_PyoKn

https://youtu.be/NsCTHtj2aEI?si=keSWTwuLUrmdtQAa

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NYJNOYUCgg

[Skybird]

Big Food and Big Pharma are manifestations of organized crime.



Maryland Health Board shuts down study on ketogenic diet therapy of schizohrenia.


Ketogenic diet originally was designed to assist in treatment of epilepsy. I referred in the past to that in New Zealand there is an institute where they treat schizophrenia, major depressions and other psychic heavy weight deseases and syndroms without drugs or psychotherapy but exclusively with supplementing and diet.



Big threat to profit interests of Big Pharma and Big Carbs and Big Food. So they send their dark legions to crack down on the revolt once again.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzPlQ6dJwe8

[Skybird]

https://isupportgary.com/articles/the-plant-based-diet-is-vegan



Religious Ideology, with an anti-meat agenda, and the Corporate Food Industry have formed an alliance over the last 80 years to create our low-fat/high-carb 'Plant-based' dietary and health guidelines.
This unlikely partnership is becoming stronger than ever and manipulating health education on every level to the tune of 'Exercise is Medicine™' and 'Lifestyle Medicine' with a cereal/grain/soy bias and an anti-meat, anti-dairy agenda.
The introduction of the terms 'Exercise is Medicine™', 'Lifestyle Medicine' and a 'Plant-based diet' have not evolved. They have been deliberately inserted into our health vocabulary, allowing 'prescriptions' to be written by health professionals encouraging people to 'move more' and 'eat less... meat'.

https://isupportgary.com/uploads/articles/the-plant-based-diet-is-vegan/_large/18443/Active-balanced-lifestyle.png

The Corporate Food Industry has been health-washing the 'Exercise is Medicine™' and 'Lifestyle Medicine' mantra to allow discretionary foods and sugary drinks to be part of an active and balanced lifestyle, placing the blame for poor health outcomes on an energy imbalance - too many ‘Calories In’ and not enough exercise for ‘Calories Out’.
[...]

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/i4jfBoOXNs8?si=5LDEeobx2yoSBV3s

[mapuc]

Here's an infographic video on what happen inside us, when we eat sugar or stuff filled with sugar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8Q03G3R0E8

Markus

[Skybird]

Carbohydrates = Sugar.
Sugar = Carbohydrates.
Fruits, veggies, starch: all results in/gets broken up into sugars (Glucose and Fructose).

Worse than Glucose and Fructose is High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS).

There is no difference with brown sugar, bio sugar, honey, maple syrup, and whate else the organic food industry tries to sell as sugars that are less harmful. They aren't. It always comes down to glucose and fructose, no matter how you twist, turn and bend it. And when yiu have thes ein your blood, the body must make insulionbe, and if you have insuline in your blood, you cant go into ketosis, you cant burn fat, so that fat gets stored in the fat cells instead, so does the fructose, and fatter is what you get. Fat eaten together with sugar: very bad idea. Thats why cream cake is so "lethal" fopr your weight and figure. ;)

Sweeteners. Some have more calories than sugar, some have none. For both categories, there are sweeteners known causing a higher or a lower or practically no insuline reaction. To what degree the mere perception of the taste "sweet" triggers the brain into calling an alarm in the body that it should get ready to digest incoming sugars and by this "workaround" an insuline reaction is started, is still debated and not really clear. The frontlines are quite hardened over this topic, diet ideology plays a lot into the arguments people make pro and contra sweeteners. Its very mined terrain. You have been warned.

The appetite argument I do not accept, I prefer to keep psychology and/or habit, and biochemical causation separate. Mysself, i do not feel more appetite and eat more when eating something sweet. Many people make this argument however, using it to tell people they should ban sweetness completely from their diet for this reason, that even nil-calory and nil-insuline sweeteners make people fat becasue the taste of sweetness makes them eat more, like salty food makes oyu want to drink becasue you are thirsty. The salt story is true, the sweetness story I dont buy that easily, it contradicts my experience. A glass of coke does not make me want to drink more coke or eat more. The only trigger working like this in me, is thirst-related. I eat salty, I get thirsty.

The worst glycaemic reaction, btw, you get not from sugars, but - beer. If you want to lose weight, you must give up beer, completely, sorry. Even carb-reduced beer, it triggers less glycaemication, but still does so.


Carbohydrates are not needed to live healthy. The few instances in the body where indeed glucose is needed, do not justify to eat carbs, because the body can make the needed (low) amount of glucose himself, it must not get externally delivered at all.



Wetsenr diet advice is nto focussed on health benefits, but priofit benefits for the industry. They want you to eat useless cellulose (=fibre) and cabrohydrates en masse and plant seed oils and vegetables and dairy because they produce all this cheap and en masse, and so want to sell it. That you ge till form it and then buy therapies and medications makes it even better, for first they make profit by makign you ill, then they maske profit from selling you snake oil and pills and injections. Snd then they make a third profit from treating the side effects from the snake oils and pills and injections. Its a win-win-win situation for them, and it is even for potlics, and nobody wants to change it for that reason.



The only thing one must know about the health system is that the health system is about many things - just not about health. Healthy people are the dystopian sky-falling vision in this systemt hat it rreies to rpevent at all cost. By far at worst it must be in the US.

[Skybird]

Healthy people are customers that dont return.
Yes, this video might very well get him into trouble.
But he is right.

https://youtu.be/K_C3RIudfFw?si=UbIoNAC8wmOXuutK

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/MuVMHPuXWAQ?si=POvbW-91HWORWk_s

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/-QUcoBKor9w?si=Ct_KcZ5araq3TUs7

[Gerald]

Very enjoyable video uphere Marc!

[Skybird]

:haha: :har:
https://youtu.be/GGJ0yUIqvW4?si=Kqz1ICdSQlST6m8-

[Skybird]

Next time your stubborn Doc endlessly tries to focus on LDL and cholesterol and wants to talk you into accepting a Statin, you may want to confront him with this new study.

https://openheart.bmj.com/content/8/2/e001680

https://i.postimg.cc/ZqfpXrKV/Unbenannt.png (https://postimages.org/)

The high risk factors in the above table are all diet-related. The come from the propagated Westzern idea of a balanced diet that ocndlues all comßionents, focusses on palnts, and is depicted as the usual classic food pyramide.

To me the food pyramides have become graphics showing how to damage yourself in the best and most efficient way.

I learned this from the last years: when your triglycerides are normal and in the green range, and your HDL is not too low, then you can safely almost ignore high LDL levels, even the more so the more you are on a fatty ketogenic or carnivore diet (and excludindg scenarios in which you also must take into account an own individual specific health condition that sets you apart from the statistical "normal").

Also consider that statins' benefits are severely under doubt already, and are measured in lifespan extensions in the range of just 2-4 days over many years (in other words they are statistically not significant and thus are random noise) - paid for with tremendous side effects reducing your health, namely the much feared brain fog, cognitive and mental degeneration, and others.

More and more responsible doctors categorically reject to prescribe statins.

Statins are a major money maker for Big Pharma.

Now add 1 and 1 together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNW-w-dt284

[Rockstar]

Oh thank god for science :har:

Honestly I like a little sweetness in life but it comes from fruit. But this is really getting ridiculous.


Forget Cutting Sugar—New Tech Makes It Healthier Instead

Scientists are experimenting with enzymes that turn sugar to fiber in the gut, microscopic sponges to soak up sugar, and more

https://www.wsj.com/science/biology/healthier-sugar-fiber-enzyme-harvard-scientists-a8bb2dce

By Jesse NewmanFollow
July 31, 2024 at 10:00 am ET

A guilt-free chocolate bar, full of sugar, could someday land at a supermarket near you.

The chocolate would look and taste normal, and contain the same amount of sugar. But an enzyme, encased in an edible substance and added to the bar, would reduce how much sugar is absorbed into the bloodstream, and even turn it into a fiber that is good for your gut.

The product is the brainchild of scientists at Harvard University’s Wyss Institute for Biologically Inspired Engineering. In 2018, Kraft Heinz tapped the scientists to help develop a sugar substitute that would enable the food giant to cut the sweetener from its food without losing its benefits. The scientists had a different idea—save the sugar but devise a way to make it healthier.

“The problem is not the sugar itself,” says Sam Inverso, director of business development partnerships at the Wyss Institute. “The problem is that we eat too much sugar.”

The sugar-to-fiber enzyme is among the latest technologies dreamed up to deal with America’s sugar habit without ditching sugar itself. Another fix involves a drink mix containing microscopic sponges that soak up sugar in the stomach at mealtime. Even researchers still working to reduce sugar are peddling new technologies, like individual sugar crystals modified to dissolve more quickly in the mouth, making food taste sweeter.

Some sugar occurs naturally in our foods, like fruit and dairy products. But much of it is added by manufacturers to processed food and drinks, such as cereal and soda. U.S. regulators in recent years have begun cracking down on added sugar, in 2016 requiring food and beverage makers to disclose on nutrition labels how much sugar has been added to products. Regulators this year put limits on added sugar in school meals and are weighing a requirement that food high in substances like sugar must say so on the front of their packaging.

“Sugar is the new tobacco,” says Steve Young, managing partner at private-equity firm Manna Tree Partners, which invests in food companies.

Food and beverage companies are ramping up work on new products with little to no added sugar—and trying to reduce it in existing ones—as consumers grow more aware of its ubiquity, including in unexpected foods like salad dressing and condiments, Young says.

Artificial sweeteners such as aspartame, the key ingredient in Diet Coke, came into vogue years ago as a fix for calorie-conscious consumers, but scrutiny over their safety has dented their popularity. More recently, some food companies have sought to replace sugar with natural ingredients like stevia and monk fruit, which are so sweet that they can add flavor without contributing calories.

But slashing sugar has run into roadblocks. Sugar does more than just sweeten food. It acts as a preservative, while adding texture, bulk and, often, a caramel color when heated. Alternative sweeteners can come with an aftertaste, and some substitutes don’t work because their intensity means they are needed in smaller quantities, to the point of making the food itself smaller. “If you were to take the sugar out of a brownie, you don’t have much left,” Young says.

Reducing sugar often requires retooling decades-old recipes, and substitutes can entail higher costs, regulatory hurdles or consumer backlash.

Kraft Heinz, for instance, has pledged to cut 60 million pounds of sugar from its products by 2025. The company in 2022 launched a major renovation of its juice drink, Capri Sun, cutting sugar across its original varieties by an average of 40% and swapping in monk fruit instead. Many consumers didn’t like the change, and sales of the product weakened. The company is now adding back in some sugar.

Enter the Wyss Institute’s plan to lessen sugar’s harmful effects. Its enzyme, used by plants to create stalks, is encased in spherical nanoparticles—tiny mesh-like cages made of pectin that allow the enzyme to be added to food without being activated until it reaches the intestine. Once there, a change in pH causes the cage to expand, freeing the enzyme to float through its holes and start converting sugar to fiber.

The Wyss Institute’s goal for its enzyme product was to reduce the sugar absorbed from food by 30%, though it has the potential to remove even more than that, Inverso says.

The enzyme’s ability to turn sugar into fiber is also key, as most Americans don’t get nearly enough fiber in their diet, says Adama Sesay, a senior engineer at the Wyss Institute who worked on the project.

After initial funding, Kraft Heinz is no longer financing the project. The Wyss Institute is now licensing the technology to a company to help bring its enzyme product to market, a process that entails additional testing and work to secure regulatory approval. Inverso says that the aim is for the product to be available to U.S. food manufacturers within the next two years, and that other encapsulated enzymes could follow: products that reduce lactose absorption after drinking milk, or cut gluten after eating bread.

For now the enzyme works better in solid food than in a liquid. Producing it in large quantities and at low cost is still a ways off—currently it’s 100 times more expensive than raw sugar, Inverso says.

Kraft Heinz is evaluating possible applications for the enzyme, though it won’t have ownership or exclusive rights to it, according to John Topinka, an R&D lead at the company who spearheaded the collaboration with the Wyss Institute. The enzyme could be game-changing, he says, because it avoids one of the biggest challenges that comes with many alternative sweeteners: the need to significantly tweak the tried-and-true recipes behind iconic food brands.

https://i.ibb.co/vq203Mf/IMG-0270.jpg
Monch Monch drink mix contains fibrous, microscopic sponges designed to soak up sugar once it reaches the stomach and prevent it from reaching the bloodstream. PHOTO: MONCH MONCH

Other companies are trying similar methods. San Francisco-based startup Biolumen recently launched a product called Monch Monch, a drink mix made of fibrous, microscopic sponges designed to soak up sugar and prevent it from reaching the bloodstream. At mealtime consumers can blend a teaspoon of Monch Monch, which has no taste, smell or color, into drinks from water to wine. Once it has reached the stomach, the sponges start to swell and sequester sugar, reducing its burden on the body, says Dr. Robert Lustig, Biolumen’s co-founder and chief medical officer.

Biolumen is still studying what ultimately happens to the sequestered sugar, Lustig says, adding that it is either chewed up by bacteria in the intestine, carried from the body in stools, or a little bit of both.

One gram of Monch Monch can sequester six grams of sugar, says Lustig, a neuroendocrinologist who for years has sounded alarms about added sugars. The product, introduced as a dietary supplement, can also be used as a food ingredient under a Food and Drug Administration principle known as “generally recognized as safe.” Packets of Monch Monch are available for purchase online, and Biolumen says it is in talks with U.S. food manufacturers it declined to name about its use in other products.

Some people have raised concerns that the mix could cause gastrointestinal side effects like bloating or diarrhea, but clinical trials have shown no such issues, Lustig says. Biolumen underwrote two double-blind, placebo-controlled trials, carried out in India and Australia.

Similar concerns prompted a backlash years ago against the fat substitute Olestra, used in some of PepsiCo’s Frito-Lay chips. PepsiCo says those products have been discontinued, and it no longer uses the ingredient. Biolumen says its product works differently from Olestra. The Wyss Institute consulted with a gastroenterologist to determine how its enzyme product would affect digestion, Harvard’s Inverso says, adding that the product won’t create enough fiber to cause issues.

Jerold Mande, an adjunct professor of nutrition at Harvard who isn’t part of the sugar research, says he is for all using technology in food, but that the U.S. doesn’t have a sufficient system for ensuring the safety of many such products. “There are a lot that come in as dietary supplements,” says Mande, a former official at FDA and the Agriculture Department. “They’re essentially unregulated.”

Food companies are betting on other solutions for now. Cereal startup Magic Spoon uses allulose, a natural sugar found in figs and raisins that is growing in popularity, helped by FDA guidance that allows it to be excluded from sugar or added-sugar totals on nutrition labels. Ingredient company Tate & Lyle, which makes allulose from corn kernels, says the sweetener tastes like sugar and adds bulk and caramel color, but passes through the body without being metabolized.

https://i.ibb.co/fCx2QqV/IMG-0271.jpg
Incredo is a sugar that has been physically altered to taste sweeter, enabling manufacturers to use less sugar in products. PHOTO: INCREDO


The company says allulose is 70% as sweet as table sugar—or sucrose—making it a more direct sugar replacement compared with high-intensity sweeteners that can be up to 600 times as sweet.

Chicago-based Blommer Chocolate recently launched a line of reduced-sugar chocolate and confectionery products made with Incredo, a sugar that has been physically altered to taste sweeter using a mineral carrier that dissolves faster in saliva and targets the sweet-taste receptors on the tongue. Incredo’s use enables manufacturers to use up to 50% less sugar, the company says.

The best option for reducing the health toll of sugar? Nick Fereday, executive director of food and consumer trends for agricultural lender Rabobank, suggests eating less: “In food, we tend to look for complex solutions when there’s a simple one.”

[Skybird]

^ I wonder what all of a sudden is wrong with the diet our ancestors have eaten for hundreds of thousands if not millions of years - meat. :06:



What they design in the lab for eating is just self-supporting evasive action, usually ending in "dietsaster".



The whole theory of bacteria in the gut that are fed with fiber is stupid. Nobody has yet been able to prove what else these bacteria are supposed to be good for - apart from cracking those fibers that are only supposed to be stuffed "up there" because of them. If that were all there was to it, we could do without these bacteria and therefore wouldn't need fiber (which, like all cellulose, we can't digest at all).


We dont need fibre. Its not good for us. Quite the opposite is true: its bad for us.



So now they want to do the same with "sweetness". I'll say what it's most likely to be: nonsense, probably with health side effects.


Adapt to eat less sweetness in general. Become less addicted to sweetness. Remember that starch and cereals and all that - also is sugar, or gets turned into sugars . Even if you delete all taste of sweetnees from your diet, you nevertheless jave a high sugar intake into your system as long as you still eat corn, wheat, bread, pasta, fruits, veggies.



Hence the soogan: "go zero carb." I say: at least keep them on a very, very, very short line.

[Skybird]

https://youtube.com/shorts/GhyTOPghYjI?si=dY5WBlCgn5CKvklo

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wwrj7R4I5bE

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/nQhgT_h90Ms?si=cC8NERqDYbh7t3oc

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/8Gfvrsr4ll0?si=QcQsq6qrs1xzxRnD

[Exocet25fr]

Beeuurk.....!:doh:

Fortunatly in France we have a lot of Snails !:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_GsYj78r20

[Skybird]

I always wondered why people must eat really everything and anything, just because it fits the size of their throat. :06:

The EU has already allowed quantities of insect "flour" being mixed into processed foods. It must not even necessarily be declared on the label. These a.h. want to enforce it onto you with or against your willingness. They really work all day long just to make you hate them without inhibitions or bad conscience.

I think its also a part of the general display of decadence in our falling civilization. The Roman cuisine never was famous and the toilets were usually right beside the kitchen a nd the smells and odors could nicely mix, due to the fact that cooking had such a low reputation in Roman civilization. At the end of its time historians describe that the eating and cooking habits in Rome further degenerated into an unappetizing mess. Not by need and food shortage - but decadence. As well as a rampant - last but not least: sexual - licentiousness that we see being displayed today, too.

Well. It was great while it lasted, but we are beyond "over" already.

[Gerald]

Dystopian ahead, https://youtu.be/kQQ6wNfkcmc?si=yRXib6g2pscIXDMR

[Exocet25fr]

Disordered eating: Orthorexia

https://www.aol.com/lifestyle/happens-clean-eating-goes-too-100000555.html

[Skybird]

Disordered eating: Orthorexia

https://www.aol.com/lifestyle/happens-clean-eating-goes-too-100000555.html
I wonder whether climate conformal and PETA conformal eating falls under their definition? What I call "totalitarian veganism" certainly does, since the psychological self abuse is obvious and can even be scientifically tracked.

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAysFxUaoBo

[mapuc]

It all depended on where our ancestor lived. Those who lived near the sea ate mostly fish from the sea/ocean and fruits. Those who lived inland ate fruit and meat.

Markus

[Skybird]

What fruits? ;) They may have had berries occasionally, and when dom these appear? Late summer, autumn - before winter, that means. These wild berries were more soar than sweet, but contained a little sugar nevertheless. That sugar triggered an insuline reaction that transported the sugar into the fat depposits, forn the winter. So - it made sense, helping them to survive by storing a little extra of energy in their fat tissue.

The berries back then were not like the berries we know today. Most fruits of today were not existent either. And the same goes for the vegetables of the modern present.

And already back then - most plants were toxic for humans, including the overwhelming majority of berries! Which still is the case today. The big lion's share of berries globally known in botany, are toxic for us. And by toxic I mean: lethal. Fruits are very specialised for very certain species only with which the plant exists in a kind of symbiosis, so that the animal spreads the seeds. Fruits are not meant to be eaten by just anyybody, but only by a small handful of very specific animal species for which the plant has designed these fruits and to which the animal's metabolism is adapted. Cooperation between total specialists.

Us poor humans are practically always excluded! ;) :O:

[mapuc]

I do not disagree with you-I toke it from my memory. I read in a Danish book series where I got number 1 and 8 I think it was, in Christmas gift from my uncle. The first book was about the first humans in Denmark and it was said that those who lived around lakes or sea ate mostly fish and fruits-I'm pretty sure fruits was mentioned in the book. People who lived inland where hunters and ate meat they had caught and even they should have been eating fruits

To find out what our ancestor ate then the historian had examined ancient midges and what they contained.

(Book number 8 covered Danish history from 1936-1945, which is an another story)

Edit
I made a search and found this information

During the Paleolithic and Mesolithic eras, the Stone Age diet consisted primarily of raw meat and organs, fish, nuts, seeds, and berries. Paleolithic and Mesolithic people were hunter-gatherers that migrated along with animal herds to sustain their survival.
End edit

Markus

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/mLwxkaH0u6Q?si=ikf3cGaleRNNFuZt

[Skybird]

Stay away from nutrionists.
https://youtu.be/vxZ7KtKpHlw?si=pgeRF3dRv2jsFd8Y

[Exocet25fr]

https://www.vaccinestoday.eu/stories/european-vaccination-card-will-be-piloted-in-five-countries/

[Skybird]

https://www.vaccinestoday.eu/stories/european-vaccination-card-will-be-piloted-in-five-countries/
Another view on it.

https://www-tichyseinblick-de.translate.goog/meinungen/die-rueckkehr-des-impfpasses-kennen-sie-euvabeco/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de (https://www-tichyseinblick-de.translate.goog/meinungen/die-rueckkehr-des-impfpasses-kennen-sie-euvabeco/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de)

Click on "Ich unterstütze bereits", its free - just a pseudo paywall.

Anything but "harmless". And probably part of the WHO political agenda to enforce a world government on all nations, democratically unelected, unlegitimized and in the end: totalitarian.



Learning from China means: learning how to govern by force and subjugation that leaves no way out.

[mapuc]

We have discussed this in our Wuhan thread and I say the same here-What can an ordinary deadly person like me do about it ?

Not much when it comes to it-Try to affect my politician to go against WHO's wishes is worthless a huge majority are pro-WHO and would gladly give them the control over Denmarks health care.

Markus

[Skybird]

We have discussed this in our Wuhan thread and I say the same here-What can an ordinary deadly person like me do about it ?

Not much when it comes to it-Try to affect my politician to go against WHO's wishes is worthless a huge majority are pro-WHO and would gladly give them the control over Denmarks health care.

Markus
I have learned my lesson from the Covid policy, where I terribly erred, allowed to get misled by propaganda. I will never acept mRNA vaccines of any sort, nor will obey vaccination orders again. I almost killed my father by bitterly pressured him into getting a jab, that was lesson enough. Stupid if you get it wrong once. Criminal if you do it again.

Before Covid, mRNA technolgy was refused to get licensed for over ten years due to its inherent enormous risks and dangers, but now they act as if that was never the case, because there is hope for a multi-hundreds-of-billions dollar goldrush. The health of people means nothing to that in comparison. But the implicit risks of mRNA still are the same as they always were, the problems it ncludes so far are unimaginable to ever get solved. mRNA technology must be banned. Its dangerous effects cannot be controlled, they just cannot be controlled - its "jab and pray".

[mapuc]

I have learned my lesson from the Covid policy, where I terribly erred, allowed to get misled by propaganda. I will never acept mRNA vaccines of any sort, nor will obey vaccination orders again. I almost killed my father by bitterly pressured him into getting a jab, that was lesson enough. Stupid if you get it wrong once. Criminal if you do it again.

Before Covid, mRNA technolgy was refused to get licensed for over ten years due to its inherent enormous risks and dangers, but now they act as if that was never the case, because there is hope for a multi-hundreds-of-billions dollar goldrush. The health of people means nothing to that in comparison. But the implicit risks of mRNA still are the same as they always were, the problems it ncludes so far are unimaginable to ever get solved. mRNA technology must be banned. Its dangerous effects cannot be controlled, they just cannot be controlled - its "jab and pray".


As you wrote
"because there is hope for a multi-hundreds-of-billions dollars goldrush"

This is why it will not be stopped. Do not think our politicians will make laws against this mRNA. They are most likely being paid by lobby controlled by different medical companies.

I foresee a future where you will lose your democratic rights and your income if you refuse to take a mRNA shots against some pandemic disease

Markus

[Skybird]

As you wrote
"because there is hope for a multi-hundreds-of-billions dollars goldrush"

This is why it will not be stopped. Do not think our politicians will make laws against this mRNA. They are most likely being paid by lobby controlled by different medical companies.

I foresee a future where you will lose your democratic rights and your income if you refuse to take a mRNA shots against some pandemic disease

Markus
You are right. I expect the same, and in fact they aleady work on it. The WHO pandemic treaty is one such example.

The EU absolutely wants to establish the same social scoring and technological control mechanisms like in China. Absolutely. All they aim for is to not getting called out for wanting and introducing it.

Its a nightmare unfolding before our eyes. And everybody applauds and smiles.

[Skybird]

:har: No vegan activists on MY ship...!

https://youtu.be/_h52TwTi0g8?si=9KVOt65_AL0iSEO1

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/MyyqGERCTJs?si=2EO63XIh-th3ML8C

[mapuc]

When I saw this article I had to post it here, 'cause I know you're on a carnivore diet. So what's you take on this study ?


Eating an anti-inflammatory diet of whole grains, fruits and vegetables instead of an inflammatory diet focused on red and processed meats and ultra processed foods, such as sugary cereals, sodas, fries and ice cream, lowered the risk of dementia by 31%, a new study found.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/13/health/anti-inflammatory-diet-dementia-wellness/index.html

Markus

[Skybird]

CNN. Just "another study".

Next. :yawn:

Such propaganda is being sold day in, day out. Red meat causes cancer. Wrong. Saturated fats make your blood vessel and heart go burst. Wrong. "Light" products are better for your health than natural fatty products. Wrong. Low salt is healthy. Wrong. A "balanced" plant-based diet is so healthy. Wrong. Cereals and sugar for breakfast is so much healthier than having a slice of meat and an egg. Wrong. Butter clogs your arteries. Wrong. Eggs drive your cholesterine into armageddon mode. Wrong. High LDL kills you. Wrong. Unsaturated fats from palnt seed oils are so much better than saturated fats from animals. Wrong. Oat "milk" drinks are harmless and healthy, wrong. Tofu is harmless for your hormones. Wrong. Proteine from plants is as good as proteine from animals. Wrong. B12 is the only vitamin that vegans must supplement. Wrong. Plant-based K1 and animal-based (mostly) K2 is the same, so the plant K1 can replace the animal K2. Wrong. Veggies and fruits hold no levels of natural toxines that must worry you. Wrong. We need fibre. Wrong. Brussel Sprouts are healthy for you. Wrong. So are almonds. Wrong. A glass of water with lemon juice per day strenghtens your immune system. Wrong. Margerine is better than butter. Wrong.

Should I continue? I could plaster your wall with it, if you want me to.

Such "studies" are no studies. They are ADVERTS to make you buying their stuff. "Them" is Big Food, is Big Farming, is Big Sugar. Calling it propaganda might be closer to the truth.

Personally, I rate 19 out of 20 - if not more - ecotrophological studies as of the same value like horoscopes and the teaching of homeopathy. You gain more wisdom and advice when reading tea leafs in your teacup.

What a carnivore of course would never do. Tea. Leafs. Got it?

I am with Vader on all this. :D No vegans on my ship, please. :har:

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/HTFkEyotHE8?si=uwBD2TVoAhVIXxGH

One of the very few things I miss from pre-carnivore times. I love fresh bread, I baked mine myself for almost 30 years, then got too lazy. But bread from the baker often gave me cramps and - apparently inflammatory - pain in the guts, this never happened with selfbaked bread. Bakers in germany are in decline, though, lacking trainees and the absolutely ruinous energy costs force more and more to shut down. Only big industry bakeries and chains with their inferior industrially processed breads will survive this.


German bread culture was a global leader, in no other country there was such an unimaginable diversity of breads and recipees, German bread culture is on the UN world heritage list - now we let it go extinct, same way we kill our car industry, our arts and culture, history, and so many other things as well.


If you wnat good bread, bake it oyurself, startzing with selecting your grain and grinding it yourself. And give it TIME. TIME, TIME, TIME. Sour dough is best. I admit , white dough tastes nice, but sour dough is so much less unhealthy. Its about fermentation neutralising much of what makes grains toxic and inflammatory for us. When industry bakera add enzymes to shorten the time the dough must rest to go up, they acchieve right the opposite effect. You want a dough that had plently, plenty of time break up critical molecules. You cannot bypass this with adding artifical enzymesm the dough pops uo like popcorn, but is a pest for your guts. EVERYBODY in the world, without exception, no matter race, gender, age, is ATI sensitive.

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/WO7iisgt77Y?si=tHpaik5H_0mJGZOk

[Skybird]

The CULT of veganism.
https://youtu.be/ku47Wp3VGbE?si=IOaR0hj9WS_OlEMC
"Vegans say they love animals. Except the human ones."

[Skybird]

lil crash course on agricultural 101

https://youtu.be/_tDMcoC4TSM?si=JjOjsvzA4HSj6Et1

[Skybird]

when will people finally gegin to be so worried and afraid of these malicous plans that they will start fighting back and also force their politicians to resist?

https://youtu.be/AQKhSufsWaY?si=BVYRCN5XFCKK2S-O

[Skybird]

:har:
Everybody knows that having a colon is plain stupid. Here is how easily getting rid of it.
https://youtu.be/I2eGgOhL558?si=wSnXtVvU5Jy9nyj4

[Rockstar]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FdblSO3WQAQ7t9w.jpg


Fluoride in water shown to lower IQ in children in landmark study
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AUGUST 22, 2024
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MIKE CAMPBELL

https://archive.ph/BdqK7

A landmark U.S. government report has revealed a concerning link between fluoride levels in drinking water and lower IQ scores in children, at levels just 0.1 mg above the maximum that Health Canada recommends.

Conducted by the National Toxicology Program (NTP), the study found that children exposed to fluoride concentrations more than 1.5 milligrams of fluoride per litre had notably lower cognitive performance, estimated to be 2 – 5 IQ points lower than average.
“Since fluoride is such an important topic to the public and to public health officials, it was imperative that we made every effort to get the science right,” said Rick Woychik, director of the National Toxicology Program.

The 324-page paper stated that additional research is required and did not draw any conclusions regarding the hazards associated with reduced fluoride levels. The potential harm that excessive fluoride levels could cause to adults wasn’t addressed in the study, either.
Health Canada has long maintained that water fluoridation is a safe and effective public health measure for preventing tooth decay, recommending an optimal fluoride concentration of 0.7 milligrams per liter.

The agency advises that concentrations should not exceed 1.5 milligrams per liter to avoid adverse health effects, including dental fluorosis.

However, the NTP report’s findings suggest that even levels near this upper limit may pose risks to cognitive development.

Fluoride reduces dental decay by about 25%, but the tradeoff could prompt a reassessment of water fluoridation practices, particularly in areas where fluoride levels approach or exceed the recommended limits.

[Skybird]

^ Yes. I had done a longer reply with more detials, but accidentally deleted it when blindly hammering the wrong key (as so often...) . But yes, Flouride (also in toothpaste and mouth washings) shoukd be avoided. Bromide in wheat flour, tap water, bread, foods, medical drugs as well, for that matter.


Flourine is highly toxic industrial waste. And a very potent cytotoxine. And fluorine is the most reactive agent known in the periodic table. If you have fkouride - fliruine plus one electron) in your body, you cannot be sore at all that one or mor eof the many metabolical processes in your body reduces flouride to flourine, and you do not want to have that, just believe it. Plus fluoride passes through the oral mucosa into the bloodstream. I have banned it form my toothpaste and mouth washings years ago.


And no, its not that your teeth do not get hard when you have no flouride. Thats an advertising trick.



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Anyhow. Diversity: do we need it? No.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V6OSO05uWs

[mapuc]

Marc regarding your post #343 on this page
The video is not quiet right. I have two relatives with colostomy. My Brother-in-law and one of my Little Sisters. The first got colostomy by Cancer and my little sister got it, due to doctors mishaps when they were operating her in her stomach.

I made a search to find out which was the most common reason to why people get a colostomy.

According to the ostomy association COPA, the most common reason for having a colostomy is colon cancer. It can also be caused by pouches (diverticules) on the intestine, radiation damage, inflammatory conditions or congenital malformations.

Markus

[Skybird]

Marc regarding your post #343 on this page
The video is not quiet right. I have two relatives with colostomy. My Brother-in-law and one of my Little Sisters. The first got colostomy by Cancer and my little sister got it, due to doctors mishaps when they were operating her in her stomach.

I made a search to find out which was the most common reason to why people get a colostomy.

Markus
The guy was ironic.

Which is very remarkable, because he has had colostomy and lives with a bag himself. :03:

Making ironic jokes about it and his own fate in order to wake up people, tells me something about him. If somebody has a right to mock people with colostomy bags, than it is him.

My father's mother had it, too, btw.

Diet have lots to do with it. There are populations who practically do not know the civilizational deseases us Westerners and our clever diet ideas are haunted by. Thats why these civilizational deseases sometimes get called "the deseases of the white man."

Fibre is cellulose, for all practical relevance. We cannot digest fibre, not one bit, we have zero use for and benefit from it. None. Animals specialised for digesting it, often having a second stomach, can use it, they turn cellulose into saturated (!) fatty acids, and these then fuel their metabolism. The cow does not live of grass. It lives of fats - saturad fatty acids, that is. Like us other mammals, and carnivores. Biochmeistry ina ction. Turning fibre into saturated fatty acids to make metabolic fuel of it.

Fibre is waste for us humans. It forces our guts to work over-hours, "exhausting" it and leading to gas-building from rotting (and if we are unlucky: inflammation), because plant material rots and forms gas, meat does not. Thats why canrivores do not fart, or fart signficantly less. Also farts smell differently, and do not stink as lethal. Once adapted to carnivore diet (which I admit can both be tricky and a bit time-consuming), the poop also does not stink as intense anymore. But stuff garbage and fibre into your guts endlessly, and the guts will start to signal to you sooner or later that it is exhausted, that enough is enough - by forming diverticulitis, for example.

Add the many toxines you eat when eating plants, many of them being carcinogens. I do not talk of man-made sprayed pesticides, I talk of the natural arsenal of chemical weapons plants have for self-defence and for protecting their seeds. Add to this the heavy eating of many carbohydrates/=sugar, which directly feed cancer cells, are a fuel for cancer cell growth, a fertilizer. Cancer loves carbohydrates.

And many more "civilizational diet factors".

And you know what? If we let animals not adapted to eating plants nevertheless eat plants, they suddenly suffer from the same civilizational AND HUMAN deseases that we suffer from - and that these animals in fre nature practically never form out. Obesity. Insuline resistence. Diabetes. Inflammations. Autoimmune diseases. CVD. Thats why in zoos you have these signs on the cages "Do not feed the animals." if you feed them the food that is not specific for their species and to which they are adapted by evolutonary processes, they get ill. And die early. In fact veterinaries report since years that this is what happens to many dogs and cats, both are 100% carnivores, but their owners keep giving them treats, and the canned food they get fed saves money by replacing meat with jelly, sauce, veggies and oat flakes. Cats and dogs do not need nor react well to veggies and grains - they do not need this stuff. What they need is - meat. Raw meat. Fat, and occasional organ meat.

[mapuc]

Thank you for your in-deep explanation I am confused, 'cause I have always learned to prevent things like cancer in the colon, a diet consisting Fibre is important.

My cat use to take a trip into natures fastfood restaurant and get her a mouse or a bird she does this one to two times per week.

Markus

[Skybird]

Thank you for your in-deep explanation I am confused, 'cause I have always learned to prevent things like cancer in the colon, a diet consisting Fibre is important.

Tnats the same industry telling us that carbs are impoasnt, that we shoukd have three meal a day, five poritons of fruits and seven portions of veggies, that we should ntio eat butter but plant seed oils, that eggs clogg the arteries, red meat causes cancer, and so firth anbd forth anbd forth.


Grains, veggies, fruits, corn for syrup, plant oil seeds get produced in big monoclutures and amassed in the hands of a few superbig corporaitosn who want to maximsew tgeir profits. They want to sell their satuff, and thats why they tell us lies about how good that stuff is for us.



We get brainwashed since WW2.



I vcan understand your confusion. When I red Dr. Ken Berry's "Lies my doctor told me" - superb entry reading -, I foudn in it a whole chapter about fibre - and that we do not need it, that it even is not good for us. And like you I first did not beleive it and said to myself that the good doctor may have been right with the other topics in the other chapters, but with this he obviously went over the top and down again, this must have been nonsens, right? I mean everbyody knows that Muesli is so healthy of us, right? "Cereals"...?



But when I further investigated this in the following months, I ran into a barrage of so convincing arguments that I finally could no logner reject it,. Also becasue of my won exmaple. I never had guts problems from bread and grain, only form veggies, but I baked my bread myself until I was around 50 years old, and I grinded the grain to flour myself. When i got lazy and stopped baking myself, i bought - tasty - bread form the baker, and soon found that their bread, all their breads, often gave me pains in the colon, and a feeling of inflammation, and plenty of gas, too. Ironically, white bread, said to be the uhealthiest, caused the owets problem, followed by long-runnign sour dough bread. But full-corn bread? Nothing but worries. Why is this? white bread inb Germany is mad eof just the starch of the corn, all other parts of the corn are extracted and do nti get used. Bot these oarts, namely the skin, are where not onoly minerlas and vitmains are housing, but also the pant'S defsnive toxines and other chneical agents not good for us. You get the full dose of these when eating full-corn bread or full corn Muesli.


Sour dough bread does not use yeast but sour dough to le the dough come up, but it needs more time than with yeast, so fermentation processes have much mroe time to break down critical molecules irrtating to you guts. Thats why sour dough is healthier - or less unhealthy, to be precise -, than full corn bread baked with yeast. For similar reasons pizza dough works best when using only smallest quantities of yeast, but lettign the dough go up for two or three days instead of putting in several grams to dry yeast and lettign the dough go up just for three hours or so (I used around one tenth of a gram for half a kilogram of flour, but let the dough go up in the refrigerator, for 48 hours...) . The pizza dough that goes up over many hours and days, is much, much more digestable. I had guts issues with frozen pizzas from the supermarket, their dough is not made with yeast, but bvakugn soda, and no fermanetaion worth the name take spalce at all, the industry wants these pizzas and industry bread getting produced as fast as possible, time is money. The shorter the dough time: the unhealthier. Also, I never had issues with Turkish white flour pita bread, and thingbs like Sylter Brot that are known for the long dough working times. But the full corn bread everybody says is so healthy? Nothign but troubles, if from the baker. The problem there also is the inclduing of encymes to speed up the working times. The more encymes, the less fermentation.



I also assume that age has grown a certain inherent sensitivity to grains. But in pricniple we all are, always sensitive to ATIs in grains, consuming grains ALWAYS causes an iflammator yreaciton in thr guts, always, usually we are just healthy enough that we must not take note of it.



I used a bread baking machine (by Panasonic, the best there are). But I used to interrupted the process after the initial mixing of the dough most of the time, and then redstarted many hours later with baking. Bread and Pizza Neapolitana are the only two things that I really miss from pre-carnivore time. There are no replacements for these worth to waste time with.

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/NdQfUJRY6SQ?si=mIyigVsiGPYtuCMB

[Skybird]

coca cola spends 11 times more in research than the NIS.

https://youtube.com/shorts/qFFsC7jw-go?si=RstvvOEVMK_e9xOc

[Skybird]

Big business buys up science, and science is to be had in a sale, for smile prices.

Four years ago, Harvard released a study on carnivore diet and hailed and praised it for its great health benefits and let little doubt on that this is a very good and physiologically healthy way to eat, with with enormous health effects.

But just four years later, in 2024, it released another study on canrivore this tiem condeming it, dramatically warning of it, and calling out doom and desaster over it.

What has happened in these four years.

Well, the sale went on. The corruption ofg science is almost completed. Big Food is triumphing. And they managed to make people seriously believe that highly processed food stands on the same quality level like natural food, even more, is the better food since it is cleverly optimized food.

I thoght about this corruptioin last night, and did nto get sleep, becasue I imagiend to be young again, just having left school where I woudl have been substantially indoctrinated with leftextreme ideology already, wokism, gender indiotism, anti-semitic mobbing, climate hysteria, climate-compliant plant-eating (qand klets ignire that bvegansim is not even climnate-complkiant). I would be lets say 18, 19 years old. I would need to find a way into and through my now adult life ahead, job, self-financing, depending on in which country I live I would in a few years struggle with crushing debts from university courses, and so forth.

How would I ever have a chance to learn about healthy eating, and how I would ruin my health by eating like I came to now in the first 18 years of my life?

These industrial gangster syndicates as "ohilantropists" and mutli-billionäirers dtellign us to eat insects, plants, dirt, and their underhanded lobbying activities and infiltration and undermining of international institutions, are worse than cancer. And a threat to all mankind.

I am still convinced that the scientific methodlogy is th ebest tool ti imnporve our lives, for all. It sjust that ther eis no free, uncorruoted sience dione anymore. It allowed to get bought up, it now is totally corruoted. I can underdtand when people say that science cannot be trusted anymore. A scienc ein this totally raoed and absued state indeed is no science at all. It is manipulation, agitation and propaganda. And I absolktuely dispise and hate those who allowed themsleves to get corruote - for "fame" and "money". May they drop dead in place right now, weere ever they are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NyUmQfhgNg&list=WL&index=18

[Skybird]

In addition to the above, this video. It's about why 1 in 5 physicians in the US have quitted their jobs. Not because of burnouts and work overload, but because of frustration and demoralization.

Where the US already is, we will be in the future. Our glorious leaders pave the ways to see this becomign true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CxGhEuXcG8&list=WL&index=19&t=274s

While we sit and watch this video, in Brussel they mull to ban all healthy foods and food supplements to make it impossiblo for you and everybody to escape from this diabolic system.

This is what they want us to be in their profit matrix:

https://www.maxim.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/morpheus-battery-matrix.jpg

No sign of human dignity or freedom.

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/QOBmOWmvgXw?si=-xdPVWQGJRUdYj06

[Skybird]

welcome in my thread, dr Campbell! :D

https://youtu.be/JHFtCGkvRZA?si=nzDmreFolnlZI7dQ

[Gerald]

Since you brought up possibility to get balance in cocking I did an upgrade to airfryer early summer and this was for me very good consider meat/. 😅

[AVGWarhawk]

Don't ignore your prostate. Get a PSA test every year. :Kaleun_Salute:

[Skybird]

I have a cast iron pan on my e-stove all the time, I do not clean it much at all, and once a week I clean the stove. This is where my daily steak is made in, 2x60 secs, 2x90 secs or 2x120 secs, depending on how thick it is. I do it raw to medium-raw, in plenty of tallow. A second, smaller pan for the second meat of the day, may it be burger patties, may it be some pieces from lamb, all in all 200-250 gr. Thats the same small pan I use in the morning for making - st very mild heat only - 3 egg-omelette with butter, salt and some sliced Irish cheese on top for taste. I am not pedantical anti-cheese like some carnivores are, its a compromise I accept for having a bit more diversity in taste. I also use cream, sometimes even condensed milk, in coffee, I like the explicit taste of condensed milk for coffee. It adds a unique note.

I have gotten away from fish, however, I have lost the taste for it, for the time being at least, after in past years I ate plenty of fish. Beef is preferred, always. Soemtimes when thinking of juicy medium-raw, rosy to red beef over the day, I start to slobber...

So, in the late morning a mug of coffee, plenty of cream, very mild sweetness. Three eggs, plenty of butter, rich load of salt, some cheese, two slies of air-dried ham. When I am not hungry at all, no eggs, no ham, no cheese, just coffee. Supplements, reduced in diversity, but generously dosed per item. Omega 3 oil.

In the early evening a ~ 300gr fatty Entrecote, Ribeye or - rarely - Rumpsteak with plenty of salt and herbal butter, plus 1-2 pieces of additional meat, may it be lamb or burger patties (fatty ground beef), again with plenty of salt, and then feta sheep cheese and Boursin, thats a fresh cheese with onion, tastes fantastic on any sort of meat, or rolled up in ham. Again, certain choosen supplements and Omega 3 oil. I have ice-cold low carb beer for this, usually. Not ideal, I know, but doing this longterm I dont pull the screws too tight and risk to give up early, I allow some compromise to support my longterm tolerance. Once or twice a week, I hav just 600gr of ground beef and an Asian style sauce based on Ketjap Manis, Sherryh and Chilli powder, so the Indonesiam soy sauce adds quite some carbs (since it is just soy sauce with sugar). A compromise: I like this dish, and I want to have some change.

Over the day, both water and sparkling water.

Supermarket shopping has become so easy! :yeah: I save some money and lots of time by not buying veggies and fruits and all the other supermarket stuff, but for meat pay a bit more than that money saved, so in total it is a moderate rise in living costs but not dramatic. I must pass on grass-fed beef, however, its unaffordable when eating it every day. Pushing meat costs upwards is the method to force people into veganism - so that farming corprorations and investors inbto "alternate meat" can make rich prifits with their bad stuff, and with sellign drugs to treat the consequences.

I have lost the love for pasta, once a favourite of mine. Honestly said, I cant stand pasta annyore. I wonder how I ever got it down my throat.

Once a month I have either a certain bread, Sylter Brot its called over here, very salty and crusty and delicous, and usually I pay a price by getting digestive problems for a day or so, but the fantastic taste lures me into this compromise every couple of weeks, i just love the taste of fresh, good bread. But my digestion and guts do not like bread anymore. I somtimes miss my beloved self-made pizza neapolitana. If I suffered one real big loss from changing my diet, than its regarding not eating pizza.

I had to give up cacao, I have become extremely intolerant for milk. I do not think about fruits, i always was at best neutral on fruits. I am glad that I got rid of salad and veggies, I never liked them. A relief to have dumped them! Potatoes, namely fried potatoes, I sometimes miss a bit, but not much.

Strange thing is, I never, never get enough of beef. I can and do eat it every day. I could not do that with pig, I am no pig eater anyway, I dont like pig fat, it gives me shivers of disgust. Beef fat however I could eat pure, with a spoon if needed. Tallow, yummy! I wondered that many years ago I was criticising to fry pommes frites in tallow like the Belgians to. I must have been a bit mad back then...

Although being German, I have no close love affair with Bratwurst. Once or twic a year, at best. No ketchup, its a terrible sugar and additives bomb.

I have not been ill in any way since I started to supplement in 2020. I ended needing blood pressure meds. I lost over 20 kg, and gained 8 kg, and hold that weight (still a bit too much mon the belly due to that damn beer, but much better than before). I feel fantastic since I started carnivore one year ago. I eat with great appetite and lust again - something I lost over the years before. I fired two docs over these years, and have none currently.



When you eat lots of meat, make sure you also eat lots of fat. You dont want lean meat, you want fatty meat. Lean filet in my book is a low quality meat! Else you may have too high protein intake, which can give problems. Protein needs to be balanced versus fat.

[Skybird]

Don't ignore your prostate. Get a PSA test every year. :Kaleun_Salute:
The usefulness of that can by argued. And it gets argued over for sure increasingly. A PSA value alone is - well, not much. But it is, like so many screening procedures they advertize today, a big business...

Get educated on and then supplement iodine. There is a reason why prostate enlargement and cancer is almost unknown in countries where the Western diet regime is not relevant. Prostate problems are a civilizational disease, and that means: they are a diet problem. Like almost all Western/civilizational/white man diseases.

[AVGWarhawk]

The usefulness of thta can ba argued. And it gets argued over for sure increasingly. It is, like so many screening procedures, a big business...


Get educated on and then supplement iodine. There is a reason why prostate enlargement and cancer is almost unknown in countries where the Western diet regime is not relevant. Prostate problems are a civilizational disease, and that means: they are a diet problem. Like almost all Western/civilizational/white man diseases.

No, no it can't be argued. My PSA is as high as a 70 year old man. I'm 59. I have been in 3 time for a biopsy. I do in fact have prostate cancer. The PSA test lead me to seek a urologist. Do not forego yearly physicals. :03:

[Skybird]

Then you already have an established health condition, and then I indeed do not object to any further diagnosis tools, because I am not qualified to do so.

I was referring to the fact that we have a big industry now that lives of telling people to endlessly run from this to that screening for early recognition of mostly cancers. May it be skin cancer, may it be female breast cancer, may it be male prostate cancer, may it be colon cancer. And for all these screening methods in the past years first a few then a growing number of doctors have raised doubts on their usefulness, and also pointing out that we have more and more an over-treating in the meaning of that patients are made mad and afraid while in fact their "cancer" indeed often may never have caused problems, while the tretamenet of a "diagbosed" probklem also often causes harms and sideffects that are kept under the carpet usually.


A few month ago I heard a lecture by a German expert who has written a whole book about this, and he said that he by now in principle advises people NOT to do screenings, because too many people get overtreated, suffer from side-effects, the total number of patient benefitting is too marginal compared to the damage done from overtreatment, sideffects from treatments can even weigh heavier than the "benefit" of the treatment itself, and he concluded that the only screening that he could somewhat recommend were that for colon cancer - not because it is especially helpful or statistically relevant, but because here the chance to suffer from damages in the treatment of polypes - snipping them off during the screening - is relatively low.

Believe me, he had some stunning numbers and statistics that really make you raise the eyebrows about what the screening inbustry tells us all the time. Its business. BIG business. Like everything in "health" politics these days. Its not about health. Its about money.

I tried to find it again, but could not find it, it was a 30 minute monologue during a moderated stage forum. When he was done, the others did not know what to say anymore. I did not know him, so I even do not remember the name anymore. Too bad.

Doctors advice men to test PSA frequently, even if they have no symptoms and no health complaints. But doing so even without a cause is indeed increasingly criticised, and it is the reason why in Germany health insurrances do not regularly pay for it if there is no initial suspicion justifying to do it, AFAIK. PSA values alone can be misleading.


You already have a confirmed health problem, you say, that is something different then, and on that I cannot comment.


I would advice to check out the benefit of iodine, however. In societies where they eat plenty of iodine food and at least still have plenty of non-Western diet, breast and prostate cancer are practically unknown. Asian regions on my mind, namely Japan. I have red that prostate enlargements have even been shown to dissappear again when going into iodine supplementation. However, iodine is a bit complex a topic, as I often have said. Never take it without taking selenium as well, its like Vitamine D plus K2 plus Magnesium, it should always go hand in hand. Iodine and Selenium belong together when supplementing. Else there is a real chance to cause damage by an autoimmune reaction, leading to thyroidites ("Hashimoto"). And even if it would end in that - you still would need iodine like you still need oxygene when suffering from pneumonia. I know that some doctors think of prostate problems as a symptom for iodine deficiency .

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/NtRXLGp5jDY?si=wygYOZbp9pMadHOc

Big Food is a 3.2 trillion dollars market.

Big Pharma is a 1.27 trillion market.

None of the two want you healthy.

These are the two enemies that everybody is threatened by.

https://youtu.be/ggTtCBvF98c?si=uI4MOEnwaUckTeEz

https://youtu.be/IWKOY3nd9fI?si=4DSHGIRnfgkbsQ0b

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNk02Ku9ZRo

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/kDC9NZo8Lqw?si=Kehi9WvjfAiFi9aS

[Skybird]

its for over two years that i mention mitochondrial medicine as the coming big topic in medical science.

sunlight. uvb for vitamine d production, infrared for interferone and melatonin production.

https://youtu.be/SXfOtQkHlig?si=EsBH6drtCyLRJqnz

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/WgoixKhPaMY?si=EiR8NZNMssCI0_-b

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/CUZxExTzR_0?si=jsfwWZ6FCBfT8oQ4

[Jimbuna]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i0mPrR9mWo

[Skybird]

he co-founded this as a non profit alternative to the corrupted existing diabetes associations.

https://youtu.be/tPX_dvZDCls?si=8twuwyM6CwsEDu_k

[Skybird]

Oatmeal...? "slow released sugar. Some people say Its not as bad as Lucky Charmes, because its a 'complex carbohydrate'. It is less bad. That does not make it good."

https://youtube.com/shorts/YRhRJWzP3rM?si=kcTa85SD4diJDpW9

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/9QyQmL-mlV0?si=XLPSRzFTUo00HeL-

[Skybird]

carnivore on a lower end budget.
https://youtu.be/7ucwXstr0M4?si=SYp-1mpVNGYkccp2
its wayyy better than any ultraprocessed food, pasta, bread, veggies, oatmeal, cereals...

[Jimbuna]

Love a hot dog in a bun with onions and tomato ketchup :yeah:

[Skybird]

Both the EU and the UN have worded explicite declarations and plans that include that nutrition and diet is now exclusively seen as a function of supporting planetary climate. This means the biochemical necessities of healthy and species-adequate diet have been explicitly eradicated. They are intentionally ignored, and not ignoring them by for example insisting on meat consumption not only is already now heavily socially sanctioned, but gets increasingly criminalised and will be politically suppressed and persecuted, whole nations with meat production will get sanctioned and threatened with trade wars and boycots if they do not comply. In the brave new world man eats not because of biochemical and metabolical need, but because of ideological command. Ideology trumps biology. Like with gender madness.

This is a crime against humanity that lets even the Covid vaccine policies pale in comparison.

It also will not help to improve soil quality, but will speed up the annihilation of the little remaining "quality" there still is, and that already now is practically non-existent due to the overkill done every ear with the great floods of fertilizers and pesticides. Its niot fertile famrland anymore, is sterile dirt, nothing else. You need plenty of fertilizers to make something grow on it, and with every cycle, you make things worse. And thios of course doe snot mean that what grows on it is fully naturally rich in nutrients anymore. It isnt. Its just a pale shadow of what it once may have been, decades and centuries ago.

Want to feed the people healthily and improve soil? Ask nature herself how to do it, she knows it better than any hedgefond, Christian cult, financial investor, industrial lobbyist, fanatical ideologist.

Hint: cows, buffalo, cattle dont eat corn, oil seeds and soy, they eat GRASS. Just that, simple GRASS.

Look at Australia: where they want to preserve the few fertile soils they have, they run lifestock and cattle on it. Where you just have farming, soil depletes and gets further eroded by sun and wind.

Then the lies told about water wasted for lifestock. They count rain into that, by that multiplying the claimed water investment needed for lifestock by a factor around 20-25. While the rain would fall anyway, no matter on what sort of ground: concrete, field or meadow. Lying a.h. they are, manipulative, cheating, underhanded.

You must not waste fertile ground for producing "food" like soy, corn and and oil seeds for cattle, if these animals do not depend on them anyway, and in fact are designed to eat - GRASS. No cow is desoigned to eat soy or wheat or corn. Simply grass. But there is no money in that, while rich profits are made with producing all that corn and soy and other toxic dirt. Thery hide this by claiming environmental and philantropic reasons, but that all is just lies. And most people buy it, willingly, since they want something to positively believe in. And since we in the West have stopped to beoeif in God and dismantled our cultural traditrions an drleiugous heritage, we now beloeive inbtio the surrogate, we believe in "left" and "gender justice" and "eco". The devil is inside the house, and oh look - he is green.

Turn all farmland into meadows. Put cattle on it, not too much, not too few. If in need for more cattle: turn even more farmland into meadows. Then let nature do its way. She does it this way since millions of years.



Heck, even chicken are not healthy if exclusively eating plant based, they need to have their dose of animal protein from bugs and larvas.


They are committing the biggest crime in the history of mankind with their clever policies. And it will cost hundreds of millions if not billions their health, well-being and full natural life expectancy.

We live in a dictatorship of money-hungry, unscrupulous poisoners. The scale of their now planned crime borders planetary genocide. And they make profits from that, thats why they do it.

The younger ones cannot know all this, they got indoctrinated from the first day they made their first steps into the Kindergarden ( a garden is a place where you farm something, right...). But this does not make them any less dangerous and menacing to us all, since they were turned into uneducated, pre-programmed willing drones pushing the crusade for veganism.

Yes, you get it right: I hated Kindergarden when I was small. I am thankful that my parents never forced me to go there if I did not wish to do so. :03: Damn collectivism training, it only makes you dull and socially submissive in your head. :O:

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/KAvemcgLa-8?si=g4NADHlGilGCPIki

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/ffLVYlg714M?si=sAscwi70K1CtF-fG

I learned meanwhile that he talked bollocks in the past, too. But where he is right, he is right.

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvq-GG5MWVE

[Rockstar]

FYI The ketogenic diet is a high-fat, adequate-protein, low-carbohydrate diet


Original Research Animal-based ketogenic diet puts severe anorexia nervosa into multi-year remission: A case series Nicholas G. Norwitz, Michelle Hurn, Fernando Espi Forcen

https://journalofmetabolichealth.org/index.php/jmh/article/view/84

Journal of Metabolic Health | Vol 6, No 1 | a84 | DOI: https://doi.org/10.4102/jir.v6i1.84 | © 2023 Nicholas G. Norwitz, Michelle Hurn, Fernando Espi Forcen | This work is licensed under CC Attribution 4.0
Submitted: 31 March 2023 | Published: 14 June 2023

About the author(s)
Nicholas G. Norwitz, Harvard Medical School, Harvard University, Boston; and Department of Psychiatry, Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston, United States
Michelle Hurn, Society of Metabolic Health Practitioners, Vancouver, United States
Fernando Espi Forcen, Harvard Medical School, Harvard University, Boston; and Department of Psychiatry, Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston, United States

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Abstract
Background: Anorexia nervosa is a devastating condition that increases risk of death over five-fold and is associated with a high rate of relapse. Considering the growing field of metabolic psychiatry, anorexia can be framed as a ‘metabolic-psychiatric’ condition that may benefit from treatment with metabolic health interventions with neuromodulatory properties. Ketogenic diets, very low carbohydrate high-fat diets, are one such neuromodulatory intervention with a long history of use in epilepsy and more recently in other systemic, neurological and mental health conditions.
Aim: To describe clinical cases that highlight the potential of ketogenic diets in the treatment of anorexia and the need for further research.
Setting: Patient interviews were conducted via telemedicine.
Methods: Medical interviews and chart reviews were conducted with three patients with severe anorexia. Written informed consent was provided by all participants.
Results: Patients with anorexia, body mass index (BMI) nadirs of 10.7 kg/m2, 13.0 kg/m2 and 11.8kg/m2 and refractory to standard of care therapy, each achieved remission of between 1–5 years to date on a high-fat animal-based ketogenic diet. Patients exhibited not only improvements in weight, with weight gain of over 20 kg each, but also diminution of anxiety and overall enhanced mental well-being.
Conclusion: These cases suggest a ketogenic diet may be useful for some patients with anorexia. Further research is needed.
Contribution: This case series is the first to document treatment of anorexia with unimodal ketogenic diet intervention and raises provocative questions about the role of this neuromodulatory dietary treatment for patients with anorexia, as well as the neurometabolic nature of the disease itself.

Keywords
animal-based diet; anorexia nervosa; carnivore diet; eating disorder; ketogenic diet; mental health.

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[Skybird]

Ketogenic diet is beneficial for many health issues, last but not least it was formally developed and "callibrated" to tackle Epilepsy. And it does.

Moving for a carnivore diet is easier if before that you are in a ketogenic diet regime for some time. The fat adaptation of the body works faster and smoother, digestive issues that can be a problem in the first 2-6 weeks are not as intense as they may have been without keto first.

For me, ketogenic diet and intermittend fasting where the two foresteps to go full carnivore last year. I did not plan it that way, it just happened to be be the sequence in which I learned about these things. Having those experiences also helps to deal better with carb cravings once you moved carnivore.

Keto is good if you want not, for the time being, going full carnivore.

Everything that cracks down on the total amount of carbohydrates consummed is positive. The less carbs, the better. We need carbs as much as we need fibre - not at all. The very few glucose the body indeed needs in some, in very few metabolic functions, the liver produces itself - you must not externally add it. That way you have exactly as much glucose in your system as indeed is needed - and not more. The liver produces "on demand". Leave this perfection to itself, you cannot make it any better.

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/BFEKYHJIr0Y?si=mledvmWm0301WbIU

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1N6QCUb3HU



No, no it can't be argued. My PSA is as high as a 70 year old man. I'm 59. I have been in 3 time for a biopsy. I do in fact have prostate cancer. The PSA test lead me to seek a urologist. Do not forego yearly physicals. :03:


The material I referred to in my earlier reply to you I did not find again, but I had a link to this ten year old talkshow appearance by a German doctor who had released a book back then on early screening and mortality. They found - and that was the actual status of science in 2015 - that while these screening procedures produced plenty of patients violating artificially announced laboratoy treshhold levels, the total mortality in various early screening groups had not dropped at all.



You will need to switch on subtitles and auto translation.



Its a big business, I tell you. Thats the predominant reason why early screening gets propagated so intensely.



In fact the life expectancy of moden contemporary Western man has not climbed, but dropped. Compared to for example the Victorian age. Thats is a big offence for our modenr ego. Aren't we benefitting from the most modern food regiment and medical treatment ever available in human history...? Many say it ha sbeen the other way around, but what is beign displayed in this staement is a lackign underdtanbdinf of statistical effects and averages, as Dr. Chaffee pointed out in a recent video. Infant mortality wa shigher, but when you made it beyond the early vulnerable years you had better chances than today to grow old. If you average these two groups, it gives the impression that people died younger on average. It was th eother way aorund. You then would need to look at the reasons for child mortality being higher than today, and differences between the living conditions - and diets - of adults today and back then.

[Skybird]

TWo minutes.

https://youtu.be/tczHbURyGVI?si=Mr9m3o-MGtD_Cms4

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/1T32lvqRiyI?si=qEYGEGMfzVa0k5FF

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/q-SPM2chedI?si=JvhMpEaUJddgVoK4

[Skybird]

Germany: Young people eat more meat again. Veganism remains at an almost invisible low, vegetarianism also is low.


Nevertheless militant vegan minorities remain to stay incredibly noisy, their ideas on what totalitarian measures to accept to force others into veganism are really frightening.And on ylutube you cna find more and more infleuncer videos of former vegans who were so bad in their health in the end that they had to give up and turned flexitarian and even carnivore.


https://www-faz-net.translate.goog/aktuell/wirtschaft/fleisch-bleibt-beliebt-die-gewuenschte-ernaehrungswende-bleibt-aus-110005045.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Thats a stark contrast to how the industry adverts and industry propaganda try to give an impression. Which holds a lesson on how high high profit interests are at stake if they push so much money into spilling out this propaganda.

It also shows that polls, interviews and questionaires have tight limits in their conclusion value. People tend to serve their answers according to social expectations when you stick a microphone into their face. Thats old news - but is often ignored.

[Rockstar]

You don’t live in a Democracy. Politicians, Government & Regulatory Agencies are fully captured by Big Money & Corporations which is why Diabetes, Autism, Obesity & all types of Chronic Illnesses are at an all time high.

Our food is poisoned for profit & Pharma profits off our illness.

Watch this & be prepared to be enraged & outraged , it’s way worse than you ever imagined:

—————

Dr. Casey Means: “I learned virtually nothing at Stanford Medical School about the tens of thousands of scientific papers that elucidate the root causes of why American health is plummeting.”

“I did not learn that for each additional serving of ultra-processed food we eat, early mortality increases by 18%.

This now makes up 67% of the foods our kids are eating. I took zero nutrition courses in medical school.

I didn’t learn that 82% of independently-funded studies show harm from processed food, while 93% of industry-sponsored studies reflect no harm.

I didn’t learn that 95% of the people who created the recent USDA food guidelines for America had significant conflicts of interest with the food industry.

I did not learn that one billion pounds of synthetic pesticides are being sprayed on our foods every single year. 99% of the farmland in the United States is sprayed with synthetic pesticides, many from China and Germany, and these invisible, tasteless chemicals are strongly linked to autism, ADHD, sex hormone disruption, thyroid disease, sperm dysfunction, Alzheimer’s, dementia, birth defects, cancer, obesity, liver dysfunction, female infertility and more.

I did not learn that the eight billion tons of plastic that have been produced just in the last 100 years … are being broken down into microplastics that are now filling our food, our water, and we are now even inhaling them in our air, and that very recent research … tells us that now about 0.5% of our brains by weight are plastic.

I didn’t learn that there are more than 80,000 toxins that have entered our food, water, air, and homes by industry, many of which are banned in Europe, and they are known to alter our gene expression, alter our microbiome composition and the lining of our gut, and disrupt our hormones.

I didn’t learn that heavy metals like aluminum and lead are present in our food, our baby formula, personal care products, our soil, and many of the mandated medications like vaccines, and that these metals are neurotoxic and inflammatory.

I didn’t learn that the average American walks a paltry 3,500 steps per day even though we know, based on science and top journals, that simply walking 7,000 steps a day slashes by 40-60% our risk of Alzheimer’s, dementia, type 2 diabetes, cancer, and obesity.

I certainly did not learn that medical error and medications are the third-leading cause of death in the US.

I didn’t learn that just five nights of sleep deprivation can induce full-blown pre-diabetes. I learned nothing about sleep, and we’re getting about 20% less sleep on average than we were 100 years ago.

I didn’t learn that American children are getting less time outdoors now than a maximum security prisoner, and on average, adults spend 93% of their time indoors, even though we know from the science that separation from sunlight destroys our circadian biology, and circadian biology dictated our cellular biology.

I didn’t learn that professional organizations that we get out practice guidelines from, like the American Diabetes Association and the American Academy of Pediatrics, have taken tens of millions of dollars from Coke, Cadbury, processed food companies and vaccine manufacturers like Moderna.

I didn’t learn that if you address these root causes that all lead to metabolic dysfunction and help patients change their food and lifestyle patterns … we could reverse the chronic disease crisis in America, save millions of lives and trillions of dollars in healthcare costs per year.

This is a spiritual crisis. We are choosing death over life, we are choosing darkness over light.

We need a return to courage. We need a return to common sense and intuition. We need a return to awe for the sheer miraculousness of our lives.

We need all hands on deck.”

Source: Sen. Ron Johnson’s Roundtable on “American Health and Nutrition: A Second Opinion”

https://youtu.be/QqcszAISzQM

[Skybird]

^



Well, I tried over the past years to direct attention to some of those points mentioned above ^ .

The propaganda apparatus unfortunately works strong and all steam ahead. Two posts above I posted news on the German report on nutrition and that especially young people now eat slightly more meat than in previous years. Just minutes ago I watched a daily news magazine on TV, Heute Journal, a known actor of reeducation, politically correct censorship and brandmarking unwanted opinion, and they "reported" on the very same governmental report - and claimed it says exactly the opposite, that people all went more vegan, that vegetarian is very much liked, and that meat is eaten less.

Last year in late summer there were brief reports about three town festivals in Southern Germany. I red on them in newspapers. On all three occasions it was pointed out that the vegetarian and vegan foods offered were very much welcomed and well appreciated and that practically all people preferred to eat vegan and vegetarian and that it was very popular.

What these clever Dicks did not say is that in all three towns the city administration (All were green-red) had banned meat trucks from offering traditional meat dishes like Bratwurst, Hähnchen, Schaschlik or Kebap. Selling meat snacks and dishes was prohibited. And then in the "news" they sold the fact that those who ate something due to the prohibition of meat necessarily ate vegetarian and vegan (in lack of alternatives) - were an evidence that meat was not liked anymore. People's choice on these festivities was not voluntarily, however. It was enforced.

Thats not just hilarious and lying. That is underhanded and pure propagandistic reeducation and manipulation.

The will of the Big Food, Big Agriculture and Big Pharma lobbies as well as the concerned political and green circles to cheat and to lie knows no limits.

[mapuc]

I grew up in a home where our food was made from scratch and I learned by my mom to make my own food from scratch*

*Scratch means you make food from minced beef, onion a.s.o. with spices of your choice.

Markus

[Skybird]

^

Well, I tried over the past years to direct attention to some of those points mentioned above ^ .

The propaganda apparatus unfortunately works strong and all steam ahead. Two posts above I posted news on the German report on nutrition and that especially young people now eat slightly more meat than in previous years. Just minutes ago I watched a daily news magazine on TV, Heute Journal, a known actor of reeducation, politically correct censorship and brandmarking unwanted opinion, and they "reported" on the very same governmental report - and claimed it says exactly the opposite, that people all went more vegan, that vegetarian is very much liked, and that meat is eaten less.

Last year in late summer there were brief reports about three town festivals in Southern Germany. I red on them in newspapers. On all three occasions it was pointed out that the vegetarian and vegan foods offered were very much welcomed and well appreciated and that practically all people preferred to eat vegan and vegetarian and that it was very popular.

What these clever Dicks did not say is that in all three towns the city administration (All were green-red) had banned meat trucks from offering traditional meat dishes like Bratwurst, Hähnchen, Schaschlik or Kebap. Selling meat snacks and dishes was prohibited. And then in the "news" they sold the fact that those who ate something due to the prohibition of meat necessarily ate vegetarian and vegan (in lack of alternatives) - were an evidence that meat was not liked anymore. People's choice on these festivities was not voluntarily, however. It was enforced.

Thats not just hilarious and lying. That is underhanded and pure propagandistic reeducation and manipulation.

The will of the Big Food, Big Agriculture and Big Pharma lobbies as well as the concerned political and green circles to cheat and to lie knows no limits.

Social media and things like Youtube will get targetted next, in fact already are under fire. Not just on climate things and "hate speech" and "Islamiophobia" - but politically correct eating as well.

Doctors do not learn on nutrition and prevention, its not part of the medical curriculum at university.

Medical associations, most of them (almnost all) in the US, are private associations, not state-funded or state-run, and they were founded or were given financial starting aid by industry lobbies and the 7th Day Adventist Church proxies. The latter has fundamentally influenced the dietarian Guidelines that are so influential far beyond the US. These sectarians have not ursurped or infiltrated these institutions - they practically founded them. Which means they practially are these institutes. Loma Linda "University" is a special case, spilling out a biblical flood of "studies" meant to prove that vegetarian and vegan is so healthy for us. You must be member of their sect to attend this "university". Truth is its not a university for free scientific research, but an ideological-religous Management Training Centre. Their food paradigm bases on the grounds of that lust is evil and that consuming meat creates lust and that therefore plants must be eaten to replace meat and so to suppress this lust. Thats why Kellogs (an adventist) experirmented and created his cereals (cornflakes), and why they make them so attractive by sugarcoating them. Desire for health has nothing to do with it, animal protection has nothing to do with it, their diet reocmmendations KILL, slowly, but thats what they do. Its anti-erotic religous ideology. Internally they also believe that if they make all people eeating vegan, this would then reopen the Garden Eden on Earth and God then would sent Jesus back on Earth to walk as a living entity amongst us mortals again. What is known as vegan diet today - as an ideology for the masses is an Adventist invention, and they call it the Garden Eden Diet.

I remind just of this: in the 12 thousand years since the agricultural revolution, male brains shrunk by 7%, female brains shrunk by 17%, body heights shrunk by 6 inches (15cm), physical stamina declined, muscle mass declined, immune strength and resilience to phyiscla diseases degenerated. The degnerative effects form bad food sets in within a human's life time, even within just generation, even within a couple of years.

I again refer to Weston Price: Nutrition and Physical Degeneration, 1937. This book is not as old as it seems. It is completely up to date and now more actual than ever before. It should be mandatory lecture for students of medicine and diet. The industry will forever try to prevent this happening. Since 2020 there is a German translation, too. Finally.

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/MxeugC5yxFw?si=EJU3IiFRp292_jvs

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/Om4pEWnOTL8?si=OUKdqp_5BxLHqsWV

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/KeASZWvm40M?si=tQElmrCyqmWTEjNs

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/JNxZiBTWxSU?si=YKpysi2ND9rbNkTT

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/Om4pEWnOTL8?si=OUKdqp_5BxLHqsWV

https://youtu.be/v7D_t3RW3M4?si=QHI0F4BW4FXFhGuA

[Skybird]

Wowh, thats a first. A women got healed of her Diabetes type 1 (yes, type one, not two). The chosen method was transplantation of reprogrammed stem cells.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03129-3


Diabetes type 2 is a diet-caused hormonal dysbalance caused by carbohydrate intoxification that derails the metabolism, it can be reversed by changing diet from glucose burning to fat burning (ketogenic diets). Diabetes type 1 however has a genetic causation and its symptoms can be influenced but so far not healed by diet changes, and it commands taking insuline. Type 1 diabetes shortens life expectancy by on average 10-15% (untreated, diabetes 2 leads to a miserable death in the long run, too).

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/jlksNruG8CU?si=tixKPvHEJktVutdh

[Skybird]

:Kaleun_Applaud:
https://youtu.be/3URB_xxsi-w?si=HkDYMv_uvVlNcj6i

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/TTcwFZnJvbE?si=e7dFSsnIaP3Xfa3w

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/bInNV6aWMEA?si=c1sQZ0UWixpOFgt6

[Skybird]

Nothing special, really, but everyday business-as-usual in international health crime politics. A little German interlude, and our showpiece Babble-Olaf once again in the middle of it.

You can only dispise these corrupt gangsters. Hang them higher!

https://www-focus-de.translate.goog/politik/interne-dokumente-zeigen-bundesregierung-soll-gesetz-auf-wunsch-von-us-pharmakonzern-angepasst-haben_id_260387396.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/live/v7R0vW2vQFM?si=4EykXXasNFOJuY0B

[Skybird]

Utmost worrying.
https://youtu.be/3BMhtqDyufw?si=7vObDlBFR9YJxhbq

[Skybird]

https://youtube.com/shorts/S1rMtBVkrcA?si=fVUsrE1aH5RLKYID

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/hVXFzcks1Fk?si=O714yLXWT1yhk8kz

[vanjast]

I would caution everyone about these charlaton 'on-line medical' advisers.
Do your 'so called research' before intaking chemicals.

Always remember YOU know what's best for YOU.
Don't let these 'snake-oil' salespeople advise you on what's best for you.

Always say 'NO', take your time.. and work it out.
The last 5 years have proven this 'theory' 100%
:up:

[Skybird]

I would caution everyone about these charlaton 'on-line medical' advisers.
Do your 'so called research' before intaking chemicals.

Always remember YOU know what's best for YOU.
Don't let these 'snake-oil' salespeople advise you on what's best for you.

Always say 'NO', take your time.. and work it out.
The last 5 years have proven this 'theory' 100%
:up:
Follow your own advice, work it out. Check the background of those whom you generally discredit and defame here. These are no nobodies and no fools living in the woods in some godforsaken province of the world. And they all are hostile to the industry-driven medical establishment.



Doctores Chaffee, Berry, Dhand, diNicolantonio, Fettke have no selling agenda, none of them is associated with a company or his own product line. Men you warn off are in masses on YT, but these are none of them. Do your research, their reputation is beyond doubt.


And yes, OF COURSE they are beyond "the system". And the system is Big Pharma and Big Carbs and Big Food. The system is your enemy.

[Skybird]

Wise is the man who suspects malice here.
https://youtu.be/JCZGhfSxk5I?si=-52bgdv7Pk3x5C09

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/6YiXUSOa0Wg?si=byxzJ__6k4h9VC5J

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/n4h135SBebc?si=Cd02WSu5DmBpRD6T

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/ZUJ4VuR1iEc?si=8ZM0lEX3hbQ0sXlX

[Gorpet]

Look, Germany is in NATO, Why run around thinking about the future ?
And health. ?

[Skybird]

I recommend you cut off your head. When its loose you can bury it way, way deeper in the sand than you could when it is still attached to your neck. ;)

[Gerald]

And now to something completely different..
Meat eaters come at Christmas, but we don't offer meat Do you think there will be an outcry against them? They know very well that we are vegetarians and that we do not accept meat at our house. So they can't have ham, sausage or herring and all that stuff. Everyone knew about it when they agreed to come, but now I can't help but wonder how they will react in practice..Christmas ham, yes please!:Kaleun_Applaud:

[Skybird]

Your house, your party, your bill - your rules.



Personally, if I were invited I would nuke you from orbit, its the only way to be safe. :D

[Gorpet]

I recommend you cut off your head. When its loose you can bury it way, way deeper in the sand than you could when it is still attached to your neck. ;)

LOL,:up:

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/ZGEWoPmvPJY?si=Krz1PdNtteKDa1Kz

[Skybird]

Cruel Vegetarians. In German.

https://youtu.be/uHplGaJioMo?si=rDcORTVxSLrpI-ga

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/d98U8C9T5h4?si=W2uxPzuK6KicF0Fs

[Exocet25fr]

https://youtu.be/6vjXORSuyD4

[Gerald]

https://youtu.be/d98U8C9T5h4? He arrsi=W2uxPzuK6KicF0Fs (https://youtu.be/d98U8C9T5h4?si=W2uxPzuK6KicF0Fs)
It looks like he's on the payroll!:hmmm:

[Gerald]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/r8bXebGwTyw




https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-4mG8hcthqM





https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ilHIFR2VRH0

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/r8bXebGwTyw

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-4mG8hcthqM

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ilHIFR2VRH0
way to go, though i tend to be more forging forxmas dinner, we have our usual raclette. An exception from my rules, its family tradition.

[mapuc]

Wonder if one should take all these warning serious ?

To some, it certainly sounds like something close to the perfect diet plan: Lots of meat and zero vegetables.

But two experts are now warning against the so-called carnivore diet, which, according to the Norwegian media outlet VG, is currently trending.

The Carnivore diet - also known as the meat-eating diet - in its purest form involves consuming only animal products. Fluids are consumed exclusively in the form of water.

https://ekstrabladet-dk.translate.goog/forbrug/sundhed/eksperter-advarer-mod-trend-diaet/10485510?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Markus

[Skybird]

^ No.

Its another one of their frequent campaigns rolled out.

You should eat not heathily, but you should eat to fulfill ideological agendas and infantile delusions, and maximse someboy else's, the industry's profits. You pay with your health and life expectancy.

Shoot a bullet through your head, thats faster and less painfull.

Really, Markus, this thread is full with links I set up to namely Dr. Berry and Dr. Chaffee and Dr. Baker, you will not easily find more well-versed experts on these things easily. Some clueless ink pisser for some newspaper is not on par with them. But the paper he scribbles for may get adverts orders from Big Food and Big Pharma, who knows.

[mapuc]

^ No.

Its another one of their frequent campaigns rolled out.

You should eat not heathily, but you should eat to fulfill ideological agendas and infantile delusions, and maximse someboy else's, the industry's profits. You pay with your health and life expectancy.

Shoot a bullet through your head, thats faster and less painfull.

Really, Markus, this thread is full with links I set up to namely Dr. Berry and Dr. Chaffee and Dr. Baker, you will not easily find more well-versed experts on these things easily. Some clueless ink pisser for some newspaper is not on par with them. But the paper he scribbles for may get adverts orders from Big Food and Big Pharma, who knows.

I know you have Marc
I just came to think of your health thread when I read the article and I knew I had to post it here.

Markus

[Skybird]

Well, I put my trust in these three when it is about Carnivore and/or Keto diet. And I say this: I, my health, owe them a very lot. Cant say that about the doctors I met in person in my life.

https://www.youtube.com/@KenDBerryMD/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@anthonychaffeemd/videos

https://www.youtube.com/@ShawnBakerMD/videos

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/_YnofTeU204?si=4HfD9BQC9W8FLre7

[Skybird]

When you figure out that this is an image of the healthiest food you can eat, all of your health problems start to improve... - Dr. Ken Berry MD

https://yt3.ggpht.com/8oV-W7mMKeYrbxXu6LYDRuoU1FVcljSV-VNlfQgHuSEuaeTxwtVphZ_bG9i5Oc3DFR3jBvxuqHs91uk=s80 0-rw-nd-v1

http://youtube.com/post/Ugkx97xyAhSuY2YJ-6jlsiBpHr5-2KJ2kldZ?si=1VC5vHPh77vVK9Yb

[Jimbuna]

I flushed something similar in looks to that down the toilet this morning :D

[Skybird]

Carb addict, eh? The fate of the junkie is a miserable one... :03:

Hm, crispy bacon, egg, yolk, ground beef it seems, and then - cheese, or more yolk? Probably fried in butter, and only salt added.... yum-yum.

And no dental plaque and no bleeding gums two hours later. :yeah: I dont get that from protein and fat only. Get it only when having carbs, even only small amounts.

[Jimbuna]

Well despite all that I'm having a chicken and mushroom vindaloo tonight :)

[Skybird]

Did you know that all mushrooms (and nuts) undergo no further grinding or digestive processing beyond the grinder in your teeth? :D No kidding. The state you swallow them in, is the state in which they stay, pass through, and go out again. More or less. :03:

Bon Appetit. :haha: And remember to chew very well.

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/drarteSE2DU?si=2TrX52pf_Ul8ZCoE

[Jimbuna]

Did you know that all mushrooms (and nuts) undergo no further grinding or digestive processing beyond the grinder in your teeth? :D No kidding. The state you swallow them in, is the state in which they stay, pass through, and go out again. More or less. :03:

Bon Appetit. :haha: And remember to chew very well.

I'm surprised you didn't add sweetcorn to the list :)

[Skybird]

Sweetcorn mostly consists of starch (=gets broken up into sugar), and this gets very readily digested for sure. Its the outer husk which is made of cellulose which poses a problem, because humans cannot digest cellulose.


I liked to eat corn kernels in butter, but have stopped doing so long before turning carnivore, since it often gave me digestive pain. More frequently than after eating industry bread.

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/J_7BMavLHV8?si=1B9hLmwiYOnWsNx3

[Skybird]

i love this guy, he sings my song! :D

https://youtube.com/shorts/ldFMMeel2g4?si=nedDhzSzwbwGAjkn

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/bhesb9nR5ic?si=gYHPUbxzvcW2HByy

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/BV7TA4WQYAQ?si=961IbGB0jvkKax1_

[Raf1394]

I don't believe everything those experts say.

Its very simple, people eat to much and move to little.
A healthy way of living is simple. no smoking, no alcohol. eat less meat, more fruit and vegetables.In general move more (just walking is enough)

People always think they have to eat a lot. But that is not true.
i never see any of those experts staying ''eat less''
its better to eat one apple and one carrot then eating a whole menu of Mcdonalds...

i don't believe in having three meals a day is needed. Some people eat more during the dinner, then me the entire day.
When i was in the army, i was eating those organised 3 meals a day. Even while doing sports, i become fat.
Now sometimes i just eat one meal a day. and i feel great. Never been sick my entire life. I believe its in the genes, every human is different.
Its the same thing with poor or average people who did hard labor and smoked, and they eventually reached the age of 100. Then you got rich celebrities or those royalties that didn't even reach the age of 40 and already got cancer? (while they have the best healthcare)

A healthy lifestyle is important. But i believe a good percentage of our health is based on your genes.

[Skybird]

I don't believe everything those experts say.

Its very simple, people eat to much and move to little.
A healthy way of living is simple. no smoking, no alcohol. eat less meat, more fruit and vegetables.In general move more (just walking is enough)
That simple it is not, and on veggies and fruits I must strictly object. Its unwanted fibres and carbohydrates=sugars, the content in micro and macro nutrients is much overestimated and got further degraded over the past 100 years by factors up to 8-9 due to the sterilization and destruction of fertile grounds, and the bioavailabilty of those limited amounts of nutrients gets further reduced by active anti-nutrients in plants. But our metabolism is biochemically defined, and this definition says: predominant input please animal protein, animal fat. And its like that since several million years of biological evolution. It has been shown very clearly that the physical degeneration of man started immediately when man started to settle down and started agricultural farming 12.000 years ago. There was no delay!

People always think they have to eat a lot. But that is not true.
i never see any of those experts staying ''eat less''Then you have no cared to listen closer. They say that all the time. Ketonegic diet, carnivore and intermittend fasting are about that. The criticism of snack options being omnipresent is often voiced, and so is in many of the videos I linked.

its better to eat one apple and one carrot then eating a whole menu of Mcdonalds...I would prefer eggs and butter, but avoiding fast food is part of the remedy, absolutely.


i don't believe in having three meals a day is needed. Some people eat more during the dinner, then me the entire day.I agree there, three meals is not needed. And mind you, nutrition experts of the mainstream want you to eat even more, 5 servings of fruits, 7 servings of veggies, two servings of full corn, for example. All this thinking is no dietary or health-related thinkling, but in the end is about selling: selling the inferior content in the supermarket.

When i was in the army, i was eating those organised 3 meals a day. Even while doing sports, i become fat.Left to this description alone, this is of anecdotal value only. It depends on WHAT you were eating, and drinking (soft and energy drinks on my mind), and wether seed oils were consumed or not. And of course how much is being eaten, yes. Even a carnivore can gain weight if he exaggerates it with the fat intake. Thats why it is recommended to leave fat intake to the content of the meat you eat, but not add more fat for exmaple in the form of cheese, or cream in the coffee (which I both do, I admit, due to variation of taste).

One thing to make it clear, carnivore is no weight loss diet, it is a weight optimization diet. It happens to a lot of people, me included, that you lose weight fast, and then gain some weight again - and in this case this is not the often quoted jojo-effect, but is due to changes in the metabolism. With the jojo, you would gain weight without limit, until you are where you started - and then often even exceed that value! I regained around one third of what I lost before - and since then stay stabile. Thats the big difference.

Now sometimes i just eat one meal a day. and i feel great. Never been sick my entire life. I believe its in the genes, every human is different.Yes, we are individuals, but there are profound biochemical and genetic design characteristics that we nevertheless share and that are unquestionable for every human being. I was sick a lot in my life, flus, coughs, seasonal virus things, every couple of weeks, for most of my life. It ended when I started to supplement, I got off my blood pressure meds when I started to alter diet (ketogenic) and I feel fantastic since I am a 90% carnivore :). I have not been ill, I cannot get ill anymore since 5, 6 years. Before that I was ill every 4-5 weeks. All my life! I was told for many years, and kept in fear that I would die early due to some mysterious neurological complication they even could not precisely identify. A story over! I am free of symptoms and pains, since years! Especially this is something I find hard to forgive the "doctors". Telling people they must die and keeping them in worry for years and years. For nothing.

Its the same thing with poor or average people who did hard labor and smoked, and they eventually reached the age of 100. Then you got rich celebrities or those royalties that didn't even reach the age of 40 and already got cancer? (while they have the best healthcare)I get what you want to point out, but I would be more cautious in wording it this way, it simplifies a complex matter.

A healthy lifestyle is important. But i believe a good percentage of our health is based on your genes.Yes to both. I mentioned the 7th Day Adventist Church before, they are strictly vegan, many o nthem at least. They are indeed healthier on average than the average US populatipon on SAD. They sell veganism (they call it Garden Eden diet) by this correlation. However, they share the same biochemical basics with the rest of mankind, and so one can say that they are not healthier due to their diet, but due to other facts. And these are: they dont smoke. They dont take drugs. They dont drink alcohol. They indeed exercise more than others. They take less medications. And probably - this is my assumption - they dont eat all day long, from snack to snack. They are healthier not due to their diet, but despite their diet (because veganism is an instruction set for damaging yourself, its simply not a proper human diet, because it is not even near to complete, thats why statistically 17 in 20 US Americans and Candians must give up veganism on average after 5-6 years: they have then so serious health conditions - when when supplementing! - that they cannot stick to it any longer). If you follow to 100% a strictly vegan diet, YOU DIE, every time, that simple it is. Thus it CANNOT be the species-adequate proper human diet.


I eat within an 8 hour window. Close to noon I may have - or may have not - an omlette of three eggs with inlaying fatty pure cheese without any unneeded chemical ingredients (melting salts and the likes). Maybe two slices of bacon or ham. Always a mug of coffee with cream and a VERY MILD sweetness (black coffee makes me almost puking). And around 7 p.m. I start to fry myself some fatty beef, always a steak (Entrecote, almost the same like RibEye, both are fatty), depending on the size I may add one or two burger patties or a piece of lamb. Fish and chicken have disappeared from my card all by themselves. I use salt, no more black pepper (it stopped all by itself), I vary taste by using or not using herbal butter, Irish butter cheese, fresh feta cheese, or a fresh cheese with garlic arome (utmost delicous, Boursin is the brand name). I mostly have a carb-reduced beer with it: 8gr per half a litre.

My health and weight benefitted tremendously, as I often have described.

Golden rules as I see them:

- avoid plant seed oils (use tallow, butter or ghee, coconut oil, olive oil or avocado oil instead. Myself I get along with tallow and butter alone)
- avoid soft and energy drinks
- say farewell to the belief that cereals, corn flakes, veggies or fruits are healthy for us
- say farewell to the belief that we need fibre
- dratsically cut down or even delete bread, dough for pizza, potatoe, rice, pasta
- reduce or cut refined sugar, sweeteners, delete HFCS and other corn syprupo swetteneing sutff, honey, and all that sweet stuff. Sugar is sugar. Glucose is glucose, fructose is fructose.
- Avoid soy, lentils, nuts
- Repeat when I say: "fat does not make you fat, but carbohydrates make you fat". :)
- avoid "lite" and fat-reduced products.
- eat salt to your liking, do not artificially reduce it, if you are attracted by the taste of it, get it
- understand that cereals and corn products (bread) mostly are starch. In other words: sugar. They all drive insuline. Fat does not, proteine almost not.
- avoid stuff containing maltrose, maltrodextrine
- avoid industrially processed food
- avoid snacking
- dont trust mainstream doctors blindly
- eat as much as you feel attracted by the taste of your meat. Stop eating when that feeling and taste fade out. Thats how animals do it.
- have a 16-18 hour fast per day
- use the stairs, not the lift
- dont use the car for every little something
- if you can get yourself to it: exercise muscle training
- drink when you are thirsty. Dont drink becase the timetable says its time to do so. Beyond that, dont care more for it, they are making a religion of drinking these days. Its about business again! Our body knows it better. Several million years of evolution know it better than any "expert". Trust your body, listen to it. Drink when you want, dont if you dont want.

- supplement according to my usual recomendations, especially high doses of Vitamine D, Magnesium (in various forms, not necessarily MG oxide), K2-MK7, Zinc; then Iodine and Selenium; then liposomal Vitamin-C; a good Omega-3 source (either regular fatty sea fish or a daily fish oil, but always bottled and never encapsuled); and my secret tip: reduced coenzyme Q10, thats the more expensive form of it named Ubiquinol (not Ubiquinon, its bioavailability is very inferior in comparison!)

Omega-3 and Ubiquinol are the two misdoers who really drive the costs, they are expensive. For myself I decided that it is worth it for me. Everybody must make his own decision. My choice must not be yours.

Dying we must one day anyway. The only question is how we must live until then: in pain, weak, depending and miserably, or - better. I try to avoid suffering and later dependency. Not necessarily to extend my life.

[Raf1394]

Thanks for explanation Skybird. :Kaleun_Salute:

One point i want to go back too. Is that its sounds funny but you got people who really are focused on what they eat. And some people just don't care and eat everything there is. And sometimes (its still a minority) the guy who eats everything is sometimes healthier then the one who checks the food...


I think every human is really different. And your body adapts to the situation.
same with sickness. Some people do a lot of desk work. They go outside in the rain, they get sick or get a cold...
Construction workers for example who always work outside in the rain. Don't often get a cold.

Same story with Covid/Corona outbreak. I had people around me, that were infected with the Covid. They got cured. And they got reinfected a second and even a third time... I was in touch with those people who had Covid. And i never had any kind of Covid...

I do believe at some point i got infected by Covid. But i think i didn't had the symptoms.

[Skybird]

You forget one factor nobody can avoid: age. Metabolic variables change over a life. I weighed 72 kg until I was mid-30 or so, but it all was muscle and sinew, I did martial arts, combat training and such stuff. I gained weight (up to a max of 93 kg, without having changed my diet and snacking back then, from late 30s on. So, my body could compensate the sins I committed in eating too many sweets when I was young, it now cant any longer. Granted, i also do much less sports. Other changes come with age, too, for exmaple with around 60 years or so the skin only has around 20-25% of its former capacity left to make vitamine D from sunlight. Insuline production changes, other hormonal balances change, but with age we usually loose in potential and capacity of organ functions. We better learn about that a bit, and adapt. Avoiding the sins of our youths when your bodies were more forgiving, spounds like a good idea.



I lost weight from around 93 to 76 kg, and then gained to around 83, 84 kg, where I am stable since longer time now.



BTW, I am neither fanatic nor do I have a festish on food, eating habits and such. I simply find the matter interesting, and I keep on informing myself, for scientific fascination last but not least. I do the things I describe, but I am not fanatical about it, nor messianic, in fact I occasionally do sin, and probably more than I should. In this way I am not so much on a mission but practice a hobby. :) Angry i only become when I see that politcal and social powers want to turn all people into vegetarians or vegans by increasingly denying alternatives to veganism and reducing the availabilty of meat and lifestock and want culling of cows and so forth, calling that climate friendly and CO2-reduction. Its a lie. A giant, brutal lie. And it harms the health of hundreds of millions of people, pushes them into physical and social and financial suffering, isolation, and in the end shortens their life expectancy and makes them dying ealrier than they must. Thats mass murder. And thats where I stop smiling.


On Covid, it si quite clear where the vorus hit the worst: where it met immune.-derpressed populations, Caretaking homes. Diabetics. Obese. I bet money on that if people were better supplied with vitmian D levels and where less insuline-resistent (diabetes, obesity), things would have gone much differently. And much less profitable for Biontec, Pfizer and Moderna. The virus only was strong because the population it hit was weak.



Its the same old story. Follow the money.


You may see why I give immune system optimization (not nessecarily strenghtening: an overshooting immune system can kill us and it killed many Ciovid victims) a rtop priority in eatiugn and supplementing. Its about a well balanced immune system. That is nature's reply to new virusses since millions of years.

[Skybird]

https://youtube.com/shorts/-ptm5akbv8I?si=LVuO9yDWCKc98faA

[Skybird]

:arrgh!:
Putting kids on statins. :dead: Prophylactically. Are you gangsters crazy...??

https://youtube.com/shorts/uLsG4YeSKpI?si=hLjCRQUqeek0xB7G

[Skybird]

When we talk health, then we talk also: diet, food, eating. And we must consider current status and future trends in food production, therefore. It does and will effect our health.

I did another fun experiment with ChatGPT. And so that I do not get accused of naive believership again like the last time: I see ChatGPT neither as intelligent nor as a level of special expertise in itself. It is a clever interface for a search engine that does not provide you just links to original material (as long as you do not ask for these links at least), but that analyses and summarises the content of the linked websites, and compares them and forms them all up in one textual output format that is convenient to consume. A "meta level of the output format", so to speak. It does not make the content better or worse in quality, it just depends on the links it found and analysed. One should keep this in mind. It is not objectively better than somehtign else, but is subjectively basing on the links it found - and the bias of the coders who programmed its algorithms by which it weighs and interpretes the websites behind the links it found. So: manipulation in the background is possible. Google Search does so all the time, btw.

If one keeps these thinds on mind, one can have good fun, even good practical use from using these tools. Thats what they are: tools. No intelligent, self-aware beings. Its easy to demonstrate how easy they can be manipulated by suggestive questions, for example.

With this now out of the way, lets start with my questions and the results. I did it in German, of course.

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Question: Könntest Du alle obigen Antworten von Dir für mich übersetzen und auf Englisch ausgeben?

ChatGPT: Certainly! Below is the translation of all my previous responses into English:




Question: 1. What were the global annual revenues for the pharmaceutical and food industries in 2023 and 2024?

1. Annual Revenues of the Global Pharmaceutical and Food Industries in 2023 and 2024

Pharmaceutical Industry: In 2023, global revenues from the pharmaceutical industry were estimated to be around $1.5 to $1.6 trillion. Revenues are expected to increase in the coming years, especially with the rise of innovations in areas such as biotechnology, personalized medicine, and oncology.
Projections for 2024 suggest a similar revenue range, with a potential increase to $1.7 trillion, depending on market factors and the approval of new medications.
Food Industry: The food industry is much larger than the pharmaceutical industry. In 2023, global food industry revenues were estimated to be around $8 to $9 trillion. This includes all segments, from packaged foods to fresh foods, beverages, and ready meals.
For 2024, continued growth is expected, with revenues likely exceeding $9 trillion, driven by rising global consumption and growing demand for functional foods and sustainable products.
Summary of Estimated Revenues:


Pharmaceutical Industry (2023-2024): $1.5 to $1.7 trillion per year.
Food Industry (2023-2024): $8 to $9 trillion per year.

These figures may vary depending on sources and different market conditions, but they provide a good overview of the scale of both industries.



Question: 2. What were the revenues for the agricultural sector and carbohydrate-centered food production in 2023 and 2024?

2. Revenues for the Agricultural and Carbohydrate-Centered Food Segments in 2023 and 2024

Agricultural Sector: The agricultural sector, including the production of both plant-based and animal-based raw materials, is a crucial part of the global food industry. In 2023, global revenues from agriculture (including all agricultural products) were estimated at around $3 to $4 trillion. This includes the production of grains, fruits, vegetables, sugar, oilseeds, and livestock.
For 2024, a slight increase in revenues is expected, depending on harvest yields, climate events, and global demand. The agricultural sector also includes the impact of inputs such as fertilizers and pesticides.
Carbohydrate-Centered Foods: The production of carbohydrate-centered foods (mainly starchy products like wheat, corn, rice, potatoes, and products like bread, pasta, and sweets) is a major part of food production. Carbohydrates are a key component of the diet for many people worldwide, especially in developing countries.
In 2023, revenues from the production of carbohydrates and carbohydrate-rich foods were estimated at around $2.5 to $3 trillion, with the majority of this coming from major grain crops (wheat, corn, rice) and their processing into finished products.
Projections for 2024 indicate continued growth in this market, likely pushing revenues to over $3 trillion, driven by increased demand for processed foods and convenience meals.
Summary of Estimates:


Agricultural Sector (2023-2024): $3 to $4 trillion per year (including all agricultural products).
Carbohydrate-Centered Foods (2023-2024): Approximately $2.5 to $3 trillion per year.

These figures encompass the entire value chain, from agriculture to processing and distribution. The exact segmentation can vary depending on how the markets are analyzed.





Question: 3. What is the development of the global beef and "red meat" production market (e.g., cattle, beef)? What are the trends in this market segment?

3. Livestock Production, Specifically "Red Meat" (Beef, Cattle, etc.): Market Development and Trends

Global Revenues in Red Meat Production: The production of red meat, particularly in the beef and cattle sectors, represents a significant portion of the global food industry. Red meat production includes both fresh meat and processed products such as sausages and ready-to-eat foods. In 2023, revenues from red meat production were estimated at around $1.2 to $1.4 trillion. For 2024, similar revenues are expected, with slight growth potentially driven by price adjustments and increased demand in certain regions.
Main Trends and Market Development in Red Meat:


Rising Demand in Emerging Markets:

Countries like China, India, and Brazil are seeing increasing demand for meat products due to rising incomes, urbanization, and the adoption of Western eating habits. Beef and pork are particularly popular in these countries. The growing middle class is driving the demand for animal products.


Sustainability and Environmental Concerns:

There is a growing trend towards sustainability due to the environmental costs associated with meat production, especially red meat. Beef production is particularly controversial due to its high resource consumption (feed, water) and methane emissions from cattle. This has led to an increase in demand for plant-based alternatives (e.g., plant-based burgers and meat substitutes).
In Western markets, like Europe and North America, red meat consumption is gradually declining in favor of plant-based alternatives or more flexible diets (e.g., flexitarianism). The trend is shifting towards “less but better” meat consumption.


Price Volatility and Supply Chain Issues:

Meat production is affected by fluctuations in feed prices, energy costs, and global supply chain disruptions. These factors can lead to price increases, which may dampen consumption in some markets, though it can be offset by rising incomes in others.
The COVID-19 pandemic and natural disasters have disrupted meat production in various regions, leading to short-term price spikes and supply shortages.


Increasing Regulation:

In many countries, there is increasing regulation in the areas of animal welfare and meat production. This is particularly true for industrial-scale meat production and processing, which can raise production costs and lead to changes in the market structure.


New Sources of Meat:

Another growing trend is the development of cultured (cell-based) meat, produced through biotechnological methods. This new technology could eventually capture part of the red meat market by offering an environmentally friendly alternative to traditionally raised meat. However, this is still an emerging market that will develop in the coming years.



Projections and Outlook: The red meat market is expected to remain stable over the next few years, with growth driven by rising demand in emerging markets. At the same time, consumption is expected to moderate in developed countries due to increased interest in plant-based alternatives.


For 2024, revenues in the global red meat market are projected to be approximately $1.3 to $1.5 trillion annually, depending on regional demand fluctuations and price adjustments.
Long-term, the market could face slower growth due to the rise of plant-based and cultured meat alternatives.

Summary:


Revenue (Red Meat, 2023-2024): $1.2 to $1.4 trillion per year.
Development Trends:

Growing demand in emerging markets.
Declining consumption in developed countries in favor of plant-based alternatives and flexitarian diets.
Sustainability concerns and environmental impact, particularly for beef.
Potential growth of cultured meat and new meat technologies.







Question 4. What is the global land area available for grazing livestock and fertile agricultural land?

4. Global Land Area for Grazing and Agricultural Land with Fertile Soil

Grazing Land for Livestock: The global area of land used for grazing livestock is still extensive, but it has not expanded indefinitely and has been declining in some regions. This is due to factors such as competition from other land uses and a shift towards more intensive farming methods that require less land for grazing.


Global Trends in Grazing Land: As of 2023, global grazing land is estimated at around 3.5 to 4 billion hectares. This represents a significant portion of total agricultural land (around 25-30% of global land area).
Trends:

In regions like North America, Australia, and Latin America, grazing land has remained relatively stable or slightly increased. In countries like Brazil, livestock farming has significantly expanded, leading to an increase in grazing land, particularly in the Amazon and other tropical areas where forests are cleared for pasture.
In other regions, such as Europe and North America, grazing land has decreased in recent decades as agriculture has shifted to more intensive livestock farming that requires less grazing land.
Sustainability and Land Use: The pressure on grazing land is mitigated by more sustainable practices such as rotational grazing and agroforestry, which allow for more efficient use of land and better soil management.


Future Outlook: The area of grazing land could continue to grow in some regions, especially in countries with rising demand for meat and in developing regions that are intensifying agricultural production. However, the competition for land from other uses, such as crop agriculture or ecosystem conservation, will increase. Climate change could also affect these lands, impacting their productivity.

Agricultural Land with Fertile Soil: Fertile agricultural land is the backbone of global food production. This land is crucial not only for growing food but also for cultivating animal feed and industrial crops.


Global Trends in Fertile Agricultural Land: In 2023, the global area of agricultural land suitable for crop cultivation was approximately 1.5 to 1.6 billion hectares. This area has remained relatively stable in recent decades, although there are significant regional differences.
Trends:

In developed countries, agricultural land has generally remained stable or decreased slightly. Intensive farming, the use of technology, and the introduction of high-yield crop varieties have led to more efficient use of available agricultural land.
In developing countries, particularly in Africa and South America, there is increasing pressure on agricultural land as farming expands to meet the growing population. This has led to an increase in agricultural land use, but often at the cost of natural ecosystems, leading to environmental degradation and soil depletion.
Climate change is negatively impacting fertile agricultural land in many regions due to extreme weather events such as droughts, floods, and rising temperatures. These changes affect both land availability and soil fertility, posing risks to crop yields.


Sustainability and Innovations: There is growing effort to improve the use of agricultural land and make it more sustainable through precision agriculture, agroforestry, and resilience strategies like the development of drought-resistant or high-yield crops.
Future Outlook: In the coming years, crop production on agricultural land is likely to intensify, driven by the increasing pressure on agricultural resources such as water and land. At the same time, there will be a shift towards more sustainable production methods that balance agricultural expansion with environmental preservation.

Summary:


Grazing Land for Livestock:

Estimated at around 3.5 to 4 billion hectares globally, with a stable trend in some regions and slight growth in emerging markets.
Growing demand for grazing land, particularly in South America and Africa, but increasing pressure from sustainability initiatives and climate change.


Agricultural Land with Fertile Soil:

Approximately 1.5 to 1.6 billion hectares globally.
Stable in developed countries, growing in emerging markets.
Environmental concerns and climate change could impact the availability and fertility of these lands.



Overall, the future development of both grazing and agricultural lands will be shaped by political, economic, and ecological factors. The balance between agricultural expansion and ecological challenges will be crucial for the long-term use of these lands.



Question: Könntest Du alle obigen Antworten von Dir für mich übersetzen und auf Englisch ausgeben?

ChatGPT: Certainly! Below is the translation of all my previous responses into English:

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Lets assume the numbers hit within the range. Then we talk about billions and billions in revenues - higher revenues than I knew until just now, I had the correct number for pharmaceutical production, but the numbers I believed to know about the food production revenues were factors 3 too low.

Such numbers are first and foremost one thing - a motive.

Keep them on mind when assessing political acting and decision making, and law and deal making in these areas!

Compared to these numbers and the interests they represent, your individual health interests is worth - exactly nothing.

Be on your guard.

[mapuc]

It's incredible how far out they reach.

Skybird and I have been discussing extreme diets like Carnivore, KETO and other diets.

Now my feed on FB is filled with group proposal and stuff to buy and not to forget videos.

Markus

[Skybird]

What a beautiful brilliant mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICWW2amezLE

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/985-CoXKpaE?si=WlHrBCBWgoFTZb1m

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax0SIbxgqDw


As user "lotti 9856" says:
"I agree on the problem but every regenerative farmer will tell you exactly why this is happening. Soil is dead. Food is grown with NPK today and soil has lost its microbiology and organic matter. Minerals are very particular if you add too much of one you inhibit the uptake of another. When a farmer plants a seed they add fert directly with the seed. This means it establishes its relationship with the fertilizer and not with all the microbes it needs and today they are also no longer there because they have been starved. You can breed plants all you like but if you ignore the microbes it's not going to change anything."
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My words exactly.

Also, you cannot feed 8 billion people with regenerative farming, there simply is not enough fertile soil for that in the world if you want to farm organic/regenerative, it has clearly been demonstrated and calculated. Not even considering that from a physiological-metabolic, biochemical perspective we should not eat plant but meat based.

Convert all the monocultures into pastures and put cattle on them, not too many in one place, so that they can be moved regularly. Cattle eat grass, something falls out at the back, which slowly transforms the soil over the course of the years. That's how you regenerate the land over 30 yeras or so, that's how you have healthy food. That's how natur has been doing it for millions of years. Does anyone doubt its success? Do we seriously believe that we actually know better after a few years of greed and know-it-all attitude and claim to power...? Nature knows it better. Nature is in us. Lets start listening to it.


Hundreds of foods and additives that are being allowed in the US are banned in other countries. HUNDREDS. Beyond that, there are still many that are lobbied for everywhere, flouride in toothpaste on my mind as a prime example, or corn.based sweeteners and HFCS.


They feed the people like cattle, like slaves. Thats no food. Thats "Mundstopfmasse" (mouth-stuffing mass).

[mapuc]

Here is another good reason to why you should eat double dosis D-vitamin

https://www-mandesiden-dk.translate.goog/livsstil/forskning-vitamin-d-kan-omdanne-fedt-til-muskel/?_x_tr_sl=da&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=da&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Markus

[Skybird]

^ Sounds believable to me, Vitamin-D is more a steroid hormon than a vitamin, and hence it triggers hunbdreds if not thousands of effects all over the place, in the entire body and its sub-systems. Question to me would be to what degree the building of muscle by vitamin-D is exercise-depending, like you cannot make good use of protein you eat if you do not do power-exercising. They seem to imply that the hormone level has much to do with in how far vitamin D helps building muslces.



As they say themselves, more research is needed on this. But it sounds promising.


Heard it (muscle building) for the first time ever - and I have red books and books on vitamin D! :) I knew about the relevance for calcium metabolism and its intricacies, and thus: bones, however. Of course I knew, its a long since known fact.

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om_I_83jKrM

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/4jWYSZnK8pg?si=Sb6uJR69zHD_puFi

[Skybird]

Just as an illustration and example, and keep in mind that people are different and that their individual health status and metabolism is different too.


Did a new Calcidiol (Vit-D) bloodtest, and got the result today. 86 ngr/ml. This is after a very long time of consuming 20,000 IU Vit-D per day. I aim at levels between 80 and 100. I am satisfied.


Before that, I consumed just 10,000 IUs per day, and the blood tests showed values in the range from 70-75.


So doubling the consumed dosis did not at all double the results in the blood test. By far not.


Just saying, because some people may think doubling the dosis on these high levels already would trigger danger, risk and drama. It doesn't.


My calcium was normal, too, and my parat hormone was low as well. No problems at all from raised calcium and no risk for kidney health that means in combination.



The naked body's skin, under ideal sun conditions with UV index higher than 3 , makes around 20,000 IUs of Vit D per 24 hours in a young person. The old may both take much longer time, and may also reach only a fraction of the young one's maximum level, due to the old skin containing much less 7-Dehydrocholesterol that is the necessary basic stuff needed to be transformed by UV radiation into previtamin D. Above 60, you can expect to make just a quarter or less of what your body could transform when you were 20. Thats why solid supplementation even in summer makes sense for the elder. :03:


Personally I do not care anymore for reduced doses in summer, and taking more in winter. I take 20,000 all year long. Keep it simple.



Dont be intimidated by higher doses of vitamin D. :03: Personally I would not worry at blood levels as high as 150 ngr/ml. Whether you have an additional benefit from that, is something different. I doubt it.



Take it with robust doses of K2 and Magnesium, and also Zinc. Dont exaggerate it wioth Zinc. 50 is enough if your metabilsim doe snot specifiuclaly needs more. Without bloodwork control I would not go above 50 for longer than two weeks or so.

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/USrmdQxRylM?si=WHdHy1YMLKBHW2bJ

I would add a tenth tip to his list of nine, isometric exercising. This video explains why .

https://youtu.be/-w8EIUpQkG0?si=s28GdFcr6DCgw0H4

[Skybird]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95mhn0ry2LY


On a sidenote, its unbelievable how many conflicting video content on gout is available at YT. Just want you to know that I know this is so, and that I have not picked this video at random only. As so often, to me what he says makes an awesome lot of sense, even if he swims against the waves (as usual...). I trust him.

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/xQV6-bAYrxA?si=5PLHfinMD-3FgieA

[Skybird]

he speaks my thoughts.

https://youtu.be/FiYFpY4UfyY?si=X6ZBKYHuE7-zw6hs

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/QAv6Z4fPuzk?si=m7s9Ig5342WTD51Y

[Skybird]

No raw egg white! :03:

https://youtu.be/p35kxUcePTg?si=cPTwV597NG0eiGdn

[Skybird]

Facts that show humans are carnivores.

https://youtu.be/gWhUZB8Mwdw?si=pw0kP0GWY-jqHMM7

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/tM4zR1MnLGY?si=fnoQS-4asnoqNkIN

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/5qBGL3uRgl4?si=p5WHBwWxIXpXz6jf

[Skybird]

A new, healthy food pyramid.

https://youtu.be/sbcgu3GgmrE?si=Nu8d07TERpb9aAYp

[Skybird]

A new, healthy food pyramid.

https://youtu.be/sbcgu3GgmrE?si=Nu8d07TERpb9aAYp

perfecting a system of addiction for profit.

https://youtu.be/YIy9CacQeHs?si=xC8JfZpVEBM-IbHM

[Skybird]

https://youtu.be/dZ7Hz6QQCOM?si=C6bbe4CHwVV2tcFL

[mapuc]

Going to read more about this C15:0

https://www.iflscience.com/the-longevity-nutrient-with-a-surprising-origin-story-78766

Markus