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mapuc
03-06-21, 04:14 PM
What is life ?
Which parameters shall be met to define life ?

Here I'm thinking in physical and mental term.

Does it need to have a psychological part to be defined as life ?
(Had a hard time to get this right.)

Does it need to be physical to be defined as life ?

Markus
3catcircus
03-06-21, 04:28 PM
What is life ?
Which parameters shall be met to define life ?

Here I'm thinking in physical and mental term.

Does it need to have a psychological part to be defined as life ?
(Had a hard time to get this right.)

Does it need to be physical to be defined as life ?

Markus
Interesting question. In light of the past year, is a virus living or not? Is someone stuck in a nursing home and not allowed to have friends or family visit living or just going through the motions?
Jeff-Groves
03-06-21, 04:36 PM
In a physical term? Life is a Bitch then you die.
In a mental term? Life is a Bitch then you Marry one and await death with open arms!
Catfish
03-06-21, 05:01 PM
By human definition life does not have to have a "psychological" part. Funghi, plants, salps, conodonts.. or let's say not in a human sense.
Does it have to be physical, maybe by human definition, yes. But not from external view or perception. Is light physical, or are magnetic fields?
It is all about definitions..
mapuc
03-06-21, 05:20 PM
Came to think of another dilemma regarding definition life.

A robot(build to look like a human) evolve a self-consciousness

Can this be consider to be a life ?

Markus
Catfish
03-06-21, 05:31 PM
I think there is no generally acknowledged definition of life by humanity
Schizo
03-06-21, 05:47 PM
The definition of life is something that can grow, reproduce and learn naturally.

Plants in general don't really 'learn' but they do adapt which is why plants can classify as life. Machines can not be considered life. Machines cannot grow or reproduce naturally. They have to be upgraded or manufactured. The whole "self-aware" theory is manufactured, not biological so the argument stating that a machine has become self-aware and is now 'alive' is misinterpreted.
Randomizer
03-06-21, 08:07 PM
Forty-Two.

The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy)
Jeff-Groves
03-06-21, 08:36 PM
But 42 is the answer to the Question no one knows!
:o
August
03-07-21, 11:48 AM
It's funny. Man rejects the concept of God but then piteously searches for the meaning of life. Kinda like the guy who throws away his paddle then complains of being Up The Creek without one. :)


Life is what you make of it. My motto is to not sit around contemplating the meaning of life but go out and live it before it passes me by.
Jeff-Groves
03-07-21, 11:50 AM
^ That right there!
:salute:
Jimbuna
03-07-21, 01:57 PM
In a physical term? Life is a Bitch then you die.
In a mental term? Life is a Bitch then you Marry one and await death with open arms!

:haha:
Jeff-Groves
03-07-21, 02:09 PM
Don't tell Nancy I posted THAT!
:o
Jimbuna
03-07-21, 02:16 PM
I was going to post " I bet Nancy Lady is out shopping" :)
Jeff-Groves
03-07-21, 02:20 PM
She is out with friends.
And she would know I was talking about the Ex-Wives.
:haha:

I hope!
:hmmm:
Skybird
03-07-21, 05:31 PM
Life is energy/matter that tries to find ways to recognize itself, with energy and matter being just two different physical states of one and the same thing. Energy temporarily condenses to matter, allowing form and movement, both of which define us, other life forms, dead forms, anything. Its only borrowed, it needs to be given back sooner or later. Through our eyes, the senses of evertyhign living, the universe looks at itself and percieves itself, in the whatever unique ways of the material form chosen.

Its as if somethign does all this because of like an eye needs to look into a mirror to see itself. The reflected image is not real, however, but tells something about something that is not the image.

When I have a good day, I tend to think that whats it all about is is that the universe tries to become aware of itself. On a less good day, I think in terms of Big Rip, and maximum entropy and heat-death of the universe.
Schizo
03-08-21, 05:58 PM
When I have a good day, I tend to think that whats it all about is is that the universe tries to become aware of itself. On a less good day, I think in terms of Big Rip, and maximum entropy and heat-death of the universe.

Big Rip is not going to happen. If the belief that the Universe is accelerating it's expansion it is most likely because more matter is being absorbed into the Universe. The origins of this new matter is most likely from the starting point of The Big Bang, or what I like to believe, the entrance to the black hole we are living in. :doh:
Onkel Neal
03-09-21, 11:21 AM
Life is what you make of it. My motto is to not sit around contemplating the meaning of life but go out and live it before it passes me by.

Yes, life is a challenge, I try to balance living for the moment with being ready for unexpected changes. It's crazy but if you get really sick or if someone you care about dies suddenly, it certainly puts a change on things and tilts the scale more toward living it while you can.
Aktungbby
03-09-21, 01:54 PM
Well, between floods, freezing, Covid pandemics, et al; I'd stay off motorcycles for awhile just to avoid burnin' the candle at both ends BBY! Ie: when I was trukkin in my late 20's, I avoided my muchbeloved rental Cessnas...and in 3 days I'll enjoy my socially-distanced 70th anniversary on this overpopulated mudball...:O: