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An MIT professor has said he believes it's "more likely than not" that we are living in some kind of simulated universe, given that we ourselves are not far away from being capable of creating hyper-realistic simulations ourselves.
https://www.iflscience.com/technology/were-more-likely-than-not-living-in-a-computer-simulation-mit-professor-suggests/?fbclid=IwAR3YGegjvW2EP5KQFZ5T7JqDBBb-t93EOaLMVBvRBm2Lc13162lBZY9eGoQ
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Sailor Steve
11-24-19, 02:36 PM
A lot of people have said that a lot of times in the past. At this point in time the real question is, how would you know? We are already trapped inside our own minds, with no way of truly understanding what others are thinking. With that in mind I don't see how it really matters.
Skybird
11-24-19, 02:46 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation
http://themindunleashed.com/2015/02/time-never-never-will.html
The eye cannot watch itself. Zen understands this better than many academics nowadays. My question would be: what is it that thinks: "eye"? Does it start and does it end somewhere, this thing sombody (who?) names "eye"? Can "eye" and "watching" be separated? Is there this separation betwee3n subject and object, thing and process?
Maybe we should not say "we have eyes". Maybe we should say "we are the watching itself".
What is it that watches, then?
Steve are correct it have ben discussed before and if so, what can we do about it
It also made gave a little smile-´cause I was thinking.
There are people who can't stand some of our politicians and if we truly live in a simulated world, then perhaps those people may think:
Why did those programmer put those politicians into the equation
I also like Skybird's approach on this subject.
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Rockstar
11-24-19, 07:41 PM
not sure one can say the programmer placed politicians into the equation. I think what was programmed into the system is vast number of possibilities available for us to choose from (cause and effect) that can produce politicians.
The law of causation is the philosophy of science. I think you will find most major religions will agree with such philosophy too.
Each of us is responsible for the choices we make.
Aktungbby
11-24-19, 09:17 PM
With that in mind I don't see how it really matters.PRECISELY! Each existence is a punishment for the previous existence and so it goes for all eternity. Occasionally, I've been an amoeba; which considerably reduces stress levels....:timeout:
Spoken like a true single cell organism... :03: :D
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Aktungbby
11-25-19, 02:22 AM
^WELL OF COURSE U CAN RELATE....U WERE 'MY BETTER HALF' WHEN WE SPLIT!!:O:https://66.media.tumblr.com/9d200b2473e3710a4c10f30b54e22a6c/tumblr_n34304qXpi1sjwwzso1_500.gifv (http://teded.tumblr.com/post/81201587211/cell-division-is-an-intricate-chemical-dance-that)https://i.pinimg.com/474x/8e/fe/7e/8efe7e004612c998f8ac67e072941424--humor-científico-math-humor.jpg
Catfish
11-25-19, 02:22 AM
PRECISELY! Each existence is a punishment for the previous existence and so it goes for all eternity. Occasionally, I've been an amoeba; which considerably reduces stress levels....:timeout:
Only when you believe in Hinduism. It is of course a good regulator against people behaving too badly, when they know what's waiting for them in their next life.
Jesus, on the other hand, forgives all in evangelical belief, hell is reserved for catholics.
ikalugin
11-25-19, 04:28 AM
Roman catholics are not quite heretics I guess.
Jimbuna
11-25-19, 05:34 AM
There is only one true answer/explanation...
BREXIT
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There is only one true answer/explanation...
BREXIT
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Brexit !? Isn't this a part of the reality in the Quantum Mechanics ?
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Santini
11-25-19, 12:47 PM
It's all fun and games until we work out an FTL solution and they power down the simulation to trawl the logs.
Another aspect on this thing called reality is
our perception on reality
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This is a dream so there. :O:
Jimbuna
11-26-19, 10:30 AM
Another aspect on this thing called reality is
our perception on reality
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Perception acts as a lens through which we view reality. Our perceptions influence how we focus on, process, remember, interpret, understand, synthesize, decide about, and act on reality. In doing so, our tendency is to assume that how we perceive reality is an accurate representation of what reality truly is.
Skybird
11-26-19, 11:25 AM
I would prefer not to call it a representation of reality, but a working model that serves our needs to be provided with a functioning habitat that allows us the illusion we can influence it, master it, and be masters of our future and fate. Because if that illusion collapses, deep existential despair and mental and emotional breakdown can be the consequence. We are not made to accept living in chaos that any second can wipe us out. But that is how the universe seems to be. The illusion of an order, a meaning, of things making sense and we being able to influence them, is vital for us, even if it is just an illusion. Accepting that nature doe snot care one bit for us, for Earth, for life, leaves us no peace of mind. We need to beleive in a higher principle. Thus, our model-forming of reality, cleverly thought out so that all parts in it work together and form a logical, functional, interacting and convincing fallacy.
Santini
11-26-19, 11:51 AM
I accept it.
Anything else is hubris, you might as well believe in a big invisible man in the sky that shaped humanity in his image and cares about who wins the super bowl xD
Intelligent have also a lot to do with our perception of this reality.
I'm convinced it has
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Talking about Quantum Mechanics and it's view on reality
We know that our understanding of reality is pretty biased. Our senses, our cultures, and our knowledge shape how we see the world. And if you think that science will always give you objective reality, you might want to reconsider.
https://www.iflscience.com/physics/quantum-experiment-sees-two-versions-of-reality-existing-at-the-same-time/?fbclid=IwAR0boXm4mE6PHepbRBORQmqtUhEU2uGQYhKLRtuO t-7CwqPGD4WlQsyaoMU
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2 things we dont really understand, how we perceive reality and where our conciousness comes from, no wonder they are having trouble teaching that to AI.
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