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C-Wolf
01-21-18, 05:40 PM
Lots of good info and reference material here for anyone interested:

Project 941 Akula (NATO Typhoon): http://imgur.com/a/xi3P3

Project 971 Shchuka-B (NATO Akula): http://imgur.com/a/pZCb0

Project 705 Lira (NATO Alpha):http://imgur.com/a/WyJ20

Russian Escape Capsule (Great Idea!) http://englishrussia.com/2014/11/10/russian-nuclear-submarine-emergency-module/

Older Russian SSBNs:

http://barrakuda63.livejournal.com/208063.html
http://drugoi.livejournal.com/3442784.html

CCC

Bubblehead Nuke
01-21-18, 07:50 PM
Absolutely Stunning Find.

:Kaleun_Salute:

MR. Wood
01-21-18, 08:34 PM
Holy Sheet damn nice find never knew the Alfa had a escape pod guess Tom Clancy didn't either :Kaleun_Salute::Kaleun_Cheers:

EnjoyableSTIG
01-21-18, 10:45 PM
Dat Schuka tho...


Seriously, these are some nice links! :Kaleun_Applaud:

FPSchazly
01-22-18, 11:28 AM
Holy Sheet damn nice find never knew the Alfa had a escape pod guess Tom Clancy didn't either :Kaleun_Salute::Kaleun_Cheers:

Yes, indeedy. The Soviets/Russians became very determined to have their boats support crew survivability in the form of escape pods, double hulls, etc.

The author's conclusion at the end of the Typhoon series was interesting. He states the Russian subs by the end of the Cold War had become at least equal to and maybe superior to American boats (in not all but a good chunk of categories). Knee jerk reaction was, of course, :timeout: but I think it seems plausible. The Russians had gotten to that point, but had spent themselves to oblivion with Typhoon and Oscar, as the author also pointed out. Basically, an unsustainable, mighty surge in technology. IMO, the author's conclusion lines up with the, at the time, seemingly super-sub specifications for the Seawolf (and the tremendous associated cost).

ikalugin
01-22-18, 01:23 PM
There are a lot of points where I would disagree with Vepr, but it is nice to see the Soviet equipment being covered in english language media.

p.s. it is amusing how and by whom Vepr is cited here though.

Mob1us0ne
01-22-18, 04:31 PM
Those images are amazing! And I’ve only gotten halfway through the Typhoon set!!!!

ikalugin
01-23-18, 01:22 AM
Yes, indeedy. The Soviets/Russians became very determined to have their boats support crew survivability in the form of escape pods, double hulls, etc.

The author's conclusion at the end of the Typhoon series was interesting. He states the Russian subs by the end of the Cold War had become at least equal to and maybe superior to American boats (in not all but a good chunk of categories). Knee jerk reaction was, of course, :timeout: but I think it seems plausible. The Russians had gotten to that point, but had spent themselves to oblivion with Typhoon and Oscar, as the author also pointed out. Basically, an unsustainable, mighty surge in technology. IMO, the author's conclusion lines up with the, at the time, seemingly super-sub specifications for the Seawolf (and the tremendous associated cost).
Typhoon was just plain silly, especially considering how Borei-I was desighned around Bark.

Noise reduction wise the desighns were driven by requirements - pre pr.671RT (V-II) the requirements were such that machinery noise was not viewed as significant.
You can clearly see the shift from around pr.671RT times in requirements for the specific new desighns and in other documents, such as "recomendations for desighning low noise submarines 71" and then in the whole VAKh series (68-74-80 for the later game relevant subs) of requirements for submarine equipment.

Another interesting story is about how pr.971 (Akula) came to be. The "cheaper pr.945 (Sierra-I)" was indeed a thing, but it was a thing later. Nor was it a true successor to pr.671RTM (Victor-III) as evolutionary imrpovements of the later were built in paralel to the 3rd gen SSNs and some of those are still in service.
The true origins of the pr.971 (Akula) are in two other desighns - pr.991 low noise sub (was being desighned 1970-1973) and pr.657-pr.958 (Igla-Afalina) C4ISR sub (from 1967, the project morphed a lot, was originally intended to operate with "interceptor" subs that later came to be as pr.705 as a counter to Polaris threat, but with growth in range of SLBMs the idea to have a two component system died, with the C4ISR desighn evolving into a dedicated SSBN hunter-killer). In fact pr.971 (Akula) was originally pushed as a split off from the pr.657-pr.958 (Igla-Afalina) and in the early form looked fairly simmilar to it:
http://militaryrussia.ru/i/284/273/pI4qh.jpg
(early pr.971 depicted above, note the bow, towed and flank array type and placement)
but that all changed with the new requirements for armament and so on.

Model of the (late) Afalina desighn:
http://archive.attaches.forums.a0z.ru/17/cd/17cdfdcb15907e3dfa59f71358cfcfe4.jpg

Capt Jack Harkness
01-25-18, 09:41 PM
Beautiful shots of the Akula screws.

Overkill
01-25-18, 10:03 PM
https://i.imgur.com/jEs5zYN.jpg

:hmmm: Somebody didn't have a level to use when the were put'n it together? :doh:

ikalugin
01-26-18, 10:24 AM
I would suggest using spoiler tags.

Overkill
01-26-18, 10:41 AM
I would suggest using spoiler tags.

My apologies... such a big boat I had trouble getting it to fit inside the spoiler tag. Fortunately the uneven deck actually helped wedge it there.