Playable YAMATO !

[Kendras]

So, let's begin the adventure ! :arrgh!:

What is ready so far (just about the unit) :

The Steel Dragon of the Sea :/\\k:

http://i.imgur.com/pComNQe.png

[Kendras]

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UPDATES :

Next goals (w. i. p.) :

- to correct the appearance (size and shape) of the 5inch AA guns.
- (if possible, i need the 3D models) to add new detailed crew (officers) on the bridges.
- to add navigation devices.
- to check the navigation behaviour of the ship (acceleration, turn).
- to add an "iron sight" with a strong zoom, some marks to help for accurate fire depending on speed/distance of the target, and a high distance scale (30 km) for the playable 18inch gun.
- (if possible) to improve the forward hull aspect with detailed plans (not easy to do, I would need some sections plans).

- to create some single and multiplayer missions with this playable Yamato of course !

:shucks:

[Niume]

Awesome. Maybe later you could create like Playable Tirpitz

[Kendras]

Awesome. Maybe later you could create like Playable Tirpitz

There is already a playable Bismarck-class battleship in WSM v3.0.

[itadriver]

Very good!!!
If you want I can make yamato playable.

[Kendras]

Very good!!!
If you want I can make yamato playable.

Thank you for the answer. :)

Is it possible to add a new submarine type, instead of replacing one of the existing submarines by the Yamato ?

[itadriver]

No. yamato will be a ixd2

[Kendras]

But do you think it is possible ? :hmm2:

[Victor Schutze]

What would be cool is a Typhoon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFw-RHbtnek
:Kaleun_Wink:

[Kendras]

Hi itadriver.

Last tweaks about guns' placements and guns' 3D models finished. All verifications done.

Check your PMs. I let this baby into your hands. Take care about her, she has needed a lot of work from me.

Good luck !

:salute:

[itadriver]

oops... :k_rofl: It is really for japanese.

https://s11.postimg.org/ynevh3ykj/SH3_Img_16_2_2017_20_44_7_110.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/m8s3gs727/)

https://s11.postimg.org/oemebaair/SH3_Img_16_2_2017_20_45_42_653.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/jsqa2xozj/)

[itadriver]

this is the best solution, I think

https://s18.postimg.org/uqnrlzj09/SH3_Img_16_2_2017_21_30_41_10.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/bybwiemlx/)

https://s18.postimg.org/w6za44lx5/SH3_Img_16_2_2017_21_31_23_687.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/urxpfektx/)

https://s18.postimg.org/8u18lm5tl/SH3_Img_16_2_2017_21_32_19_590.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/9jk0xz6d1/)

[TheGreatElector]

Isn't this the yamato model from IJNWSM2.0 for silent hunter 3? it's a rare mod with playable japanese ships. It can't be found but i still have it downloaded if anyone want models from it, there nice.

[Kendras]

oops... It is really for japanese.

:haha: This is the command room. You can see it in the film :

http://i.imgur.com/qMgGJYt.png

http://i.imgur.com/sm2SQTr.png

this is the best solution, I think.

I would prefer all the lookouts on the bridge, like this :

http://i.imgur.com/lJ3qiwY.png

http://i.imgur.com/FsfOivf.png

http://i.imgur.com/7qnO8df.png

About the guns' interface, I don't know if it wouldn't be better to give access to manual (player) fire only for the AA guns, as it will be difficult to fire on targets that are + 25 km away without the help of range finders ... :D

Isn't this the yamato model from IJNWSM2.0 for silent hunter 3? it's a rare mod with playable japanese ships.

No, I've found the model in LSH 3, where there are :
- BB Yamato
- BB Fuso
- CA Maya
- CA Tone
- CL Kuma
- CL Naka
- CV Shokaku
- CVE Akitsu
- CVS Chitose
- DD Asashio
- DD Mutsuki
- DE Akikaze

It can't be found but i still have you downloaded if anyone want models from it, there nice.

:o Really ? Yes, I would like to try this mod ! Even if I'm pretty sure that the Yamato is not as good as mine ! :smug: Maybe I'm wrong ? :hmm2:

[Kendras]

oops... It is really for japanese.

I've found a good detailed plan :

http://i.imgur.com/5CrfPWe.jpg

[itadriver]

:
I would prefer all the lookouts on the bridge, like this :
:

Ok. No problem

[itadriver]

:

About the guns' interface, I don't know if it wouldn't be better to give access to manual (player) fire only for the AA guns, as it will be difficult to fire on targets that are + 25 km away without the help of range finders ... :D


Deck gun and aa guns ;)


Compartments, zones, radar, hydrophone, radio and deck gun are ready.
Now the other guns.

[Kendras]

Deck gun and aa guns ;)


Compartments, zones, radar, hydrophone, radio and deck gun are ready.
Now the other guns.

Did you change the .zon file ?

:eek:

[itadriver]

Yes. You need a sub.zon not a bb.zon

[Kendras]

Yes. You need a sub.zon not a bb.zon

I mean : did you change the number, configuration and types of the zones ?

[Kendras]

http://i.imgur.com/1VkMvHY.png

[itadriver]

Zones.cfg: no changes
Yamato.zon: reworked as a sub

[Kendras]

My (bad) work on the upper command deck :

http://i.imgur.com/oEYWqiy.png

Here are some (not very well) remodelled lookouts, and optics from the destroyer Le Fantasque (the_frog's creation) to have an idea about the scale.

My final goal is to fit all the decks with navigation devices. I think the_frog is an expert in doing this. So, I'm kindly asking to him if he wants to help me in that matter ? That would be fantastic ! :yep:

http://i.imgur.com/8r6o3XA.png

This plan will help a lot :

http://i.imgur.com/5CrfPWe.jpg

[Victor Schutze]

:Kaleun_Thumbs_Up:

[itadriver]

https://s4.postimg.org/r5ir4ro4t/SH3_Img_18_2_2017_22_7_3_434.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/n95f8s355/)

https://s4.postimg.org/57maaz94d/SH3_Img_18_2_2017_22_8_28_195.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/w5g7cptrd/)

[Kendras]

Yeah, not bad. The characters seem a bit tall ... :hmmm: Mine on the pic above are 1,8 meters ! Ah, maybe this is because I might have changed the height of the floor (don't remember). But now the command room has a higher ceiling.

I think the speed dial should be changed to show the max speed : 27 kts.

[itadriver]

Yeah, not bad. The characters seem a bit tall ... .

Yes

I think the speed dial should be changed to show the max speed : 27 kts.

I dont know how to do .....

[Kendras]

Yeah, not bad. The characters seem a bit tall ... :hmmm: Mine on the pic above are 1,8 meters ! Ah, maybe this is because I might have changed the height of the floor (don't remember).

I remember now ! I leveled up the floor. So your characters are ... twice too much tall !

Let's put them in the boiler room as clandestine passengers ! (this is a Japanese ship by the way !)

:k_rofl:

[the_frog]

Hello Kendras,

consider to use a texture with the those French binoculars you placed on the roof of the compass platform. Note, Yamato had the binoculars not on roof of the compass platform but inside (see the picture you posted).

I did several years ago a small facelift to the NBB_Yamato and I am happy with that. I rarely join the Monsoon operation, and so, I do not have much opportunities to meet those juggernauts. Well, I am not so sad about that; I think the Yamatos are among the most gracelss ships ever built :yep:

Also, I am not interested in playable ships. I am happy with submarines :salute:

Cheers

[Kendras]

Hello Kendras,

consider to use a texture with the those French binoculars you placed on the roof of the compass platform. Note, Yamato had the binoculars not on roof of the compass platform but inside (see the picture you posted).

I did several years ago a small facelift to the NBB_Yamato and I am happy with that. I rarely join the Monsoon operation, and so, I do not have much opportunities to meet those juggernauts. Well, I am not so sad about that; I think the Yamatos are among the most gracelss ships ever built :yep:

Also, I am not interested in playable ships. I am happy with submarines :salute:

Cheers

What kind of facelift ? Do you remember ?

[the_frog]

What kind of facelift ? Do you remember ?


I adjusted the colours of the texture and some positions of some 3D objects, did a texture re-mapping of the horizontal surface (less wood, more steel), and tried to create a more complete AA loadout (including some adjustments in the *.sim file).

A brief picture from the museum:

https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/f5ac/ngc9zoxzx4r4cro6g.jpg

The underwater body of the hull, especially aft, is not well modelled (=wrong). I didn't touch that ...

[Kendras]

I adjusted the colours of the texture and some positions of some 3D objects, did a texture re-mapping of the horizontal surface (less wood, more steel), and tried to create a more complete AA loadout (including some adjustments in the *.sim file).

:o Incredible.

I'm searching for new models of 5 inch AA guns. Could you lend them for my mod ? :) I'm not skilled to create them myself. :oops:

http://i.imgur.com/M7XCxPZ.png

Also, I am not interested in playable ships. I am happy with submarines.

I will release this ship as standard (non playable) unit too.

[the_frog]

The original model of the 12.7 cm mounts in the upper positions is (as the Yamato model) from SH4. It has been converted long ago. The model of the amoured mounts in lower positions was done in a rough way, with no plans at hand.

Here's all the stuff I did on IJN equipment; most models are just re-worked SH4 models:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ijj2a7qiarzt17b/guns_IJN.7z

[Kendras]

The original model of the 12.7 cm mounts in the upper positions is (as the Yamato model) from SH4. It has been converted long ago. The model of the amoured mounts in lower positions was done in a rough way, with no plans at hand.

Here's all the stuff I did on IJN equipment; most models are just re-worked SH4 models:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/ijj2a7qiarzt17b/guns_IJN.7z

Thank you very much dear friend ! Your help is very precious to me !

[Kendras]

So, I compared with plans and pictures.

http://i.imgur.com/IYpXylx.png

I resized the 5 inch AA gun with the shield at 150 % of yours. Then, I remodelled the whole thing. I have one little problem : I need to change the connection of some vertices, but I don't know how to do, and the model needs to be a little remapped with the texture.

http://i.imgur.com/LcOS7ti.png

Here are the reworked models : I WILL SEND YOU THE FILES LATER, MY MEDIAFIRE PAGE IS BUGGING ....

[Kendras]

Here are the reworked models : I WILL SEND YOU THE FILES LATER, MY MEDIAFIRE PAGE IS BUGGING ....

PM sent to you.

:salute:

[Kendras]

I remember now ! I leveled up the floor. So your characters are ... twice too much tall !

That's impossible. I've compared the size of an U-Boot's crew and my lookout, they have the same size ! :hmmm:

http://i.imgur.com/y7FRQCj.png

[itadriver]

WSM3.1IJN. There is a great "Yamato-late" (sorry kendras... better than yours) and the library with all its guns.

[Kendras]

WSM3.1IJN. There is a great "Yamato-late" (sorry kendras... better than yours) and the library with all its guns.

I'm impatient to see that. Could you send me a D/L link please ?

:Kaleun_Salute:

[Kendras]

Ah ! I've found the mod on Maik's server.

Well, I'm very disappointed ! :(

All the textures and 3D models (battleship and guns) are even WORSE than BEFORE I started to improve the things ! :nope: IMHO, my work is far better and accurate.

I'm not insulting anyone, just saying what I think about a precise mod. Sure, Chinese U-47 must be a talented guy, and I thank him to have done so much work. But his work about this precise ship is definitely not at all for my taste.

Now, if you don't want to continue this mod, well, I think I will be able to do it alone. I only have to understand how to build a playable surface ship.

For now, I will just release the ship as AI ship, when improvments about guns and crew are finished.

All the best !

:salute:

[itadriver]

Keep calm my friend :)
I never told you that I dont want to make playable your yamato.

PS
If you open .dat file you will see that it's the same ship model. (Read the author) ;)

[Kendras]

Keep calm my friend

I'm cool. :|\\

If you open .dat file you will see that it's the same ship model. (Read the author) ;)

Yes, I know. But the hull has been reworked at the front part (and I don't like how it looks now), the textures are ugly, some guns have been removed, the guns 3D models are also bad, etc. etc. I don't see what you prefer in this mod compared to mine ?

[itadriver]

I think she will be ready very soon ;)
(2/3 days)

[Kendras]

I think she will be ready very soon ;)
(2/3 days)

Excellent news ! :yeah:

About the playable 18inch gun, can you make the second (middle) turret playable ?

Could you send me the files by PM only ? I have made other modifications/improvments in the .dat and .sim files and I would not like to release the ship before these improvments are done. Of course, full credits will be given for your job.

Thank you ! :salute:

[Kendras]

Also see second post to read what I have to do before final release.

[ThaFr0ggy]

Will this be compatible with any of the mega mods?

[Kendras]

Will this be compatible with any of the mega mods?

I don't know, but I don't think so. Itadriver can answer this question better than.

[Kendras]

Hey itadriver !

I've just realized that it's bad that Yamato replaces the type IXD2. Because I plan to create multiplayer missions with Yamato and IXD2 submarines, which will be American submarines (played by human players) attacking the Japanese (including the human Yamato of course !).

It would be better to make Yamato a type IIA !

Can you do that ?

[Kendras]

... american submarines (played by human players) attacking the Japanese (including the human Yamato of course !).

Just I wonder how to create and "spawn" a new dialogue sound : "Torpedo spotted on starboard Herr Kaleun" ! :har:

[itadriver]

Hey itadriver !

I've just realized that it's bad that Yamato replaces the type IXD2. Because I plan to create multiplayer missions with Yamato and IXD2 submarines, which will be American submarines (played by human players) attacking the Japanese (including the human Yamato of course !).

It would be better to make Yamato a type IIA !

Can you do that ?

Try as IXD2. If there is no problem we can change into an V++ or IX+ but not into a II+

https://s32.postimg.org/58rpextqd/SH3_Img_23_2_2017_23_55_39_181.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/awy05ty2p/)

https://s32.postimg.org/phf30nt1h/SH3_Img_23_2_2017_23_55_56_617.jpg (https://postimg.org/image/ie77l1nlt/)

[itadriver]

Will this be compatible with any of the mega mods?

Now is just for stock SH3.
I will make it compatible with WAc5.0

[Kendras]

http://i.imgur.com/EdjRfZP.png

http://i.imgur.com/hm9VwR6.png

http://i.imgur.com/DyrEp2g.png

I will comment further.

:Kaleun_Salute:

[Kendras]

My first questions :

- can we choose what gun is playable on the ship ? (ex : I would like to play the second main turret and the first 6inch triple turret) (and I would like to play two 25mm turrets (one on each board) and not the 5in turret)

- also, can we have more than one main gun (node M01) ? it's hard to shoot with the 6 inch triple turret without any iron sight !

- how to put starshells on the 5in guns ?

- did you change any guns nodes (.dat or .sim file) ?

[itadriver]

6.1 inc and 25mm playable is possible.
No. Just one M1 (but 6.1 is a Sgun so we can have 6.1 and also 18inch)
Starshell, I will try.
Guns: as you can see there is a new "yamato_guns.dat/zon";.
Same modifications also in Ixd2 node guns.

[Kendras]

How does the game recognize that this is the first 18inch turret which is playable ? All 18inch turrets have the same name in IXD2.dat (=M01)....

No. Just one M1 (but 6.1 is a Sgun so we can have 6.1 and also 18inch)

The problem is that it's impossible to be accurate without an ironsight on the 6in turret. So, my idea is to make the 6in the main playable gun. Long distance fire is too hard without specific optic devices, so let the AI fire with the 18inch turrets.

[Kendras]

I have a huge problem. I can't assign the crew to the main and AA guns ! Do you know where does this problem come from ???

http://i.imgur.com/OKP92Lt.png

Please help !

[itadriver]

If you open the dat file of the yamato guns, in library folder, you can see that inside aa guns there is a 'soclu' that is referred to an other gun. Do you have this gun in guns.dat?

[Kendras]

If you open the dat file of the yamato guns, in library folder, you can see that inside aa guns there is a 'soclu' that is referred to an other gun. Do you have this gun in guns.dat?

Thank you for the answer. Yes, I noticed it : "DMY_Soclu_20mmTwin_UFlak_High". What is it ?

There isn't such a node in the 6.1inch gun. Is it normal ?

[itadriver]

Sorry in gunssub.dat not in guns.dat.
I'm tring to remember, i'm not in front of my pc. I will check later.

[Kendras]

OK. I re-installed SH3 and the problem is solved.

Now, I don't understand why the 5in AA gun without shield and the 25mm gun without shield are not playable ... ?

:hmmm:

[itadriver]

Read pm ;)

[Kendras]

Another problem ! No ammunition at start of mission in the 25mm turret gun ... I changed the basic.cfg but then I set your parameters again, but I've probably missed something ... but what ? :hmmm:

http://i.imgur.com/NbuMfuf.png

:k_confused:

[itadriver]

You must not touch basic.😀😀😀😀