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Stefan Thimme
01-29-17, 03:12 PM
With all respects to the community I'm glad to propose a conversion of Karle94's playable BB Richelieu for SH4 as AI unit for SH3.

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/5808/Fn53t6.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img923/6438/mnTZyk.jpg

Thanks to Karle94 for original model of the ship and to Isinchievici for French guns library for this unit.
Special thanks to VonDos for his help with testing of BBRichelieu when I faced problems with stability of my computer.

d\l link: http://www.mediafire.com/file/lcjko025xbbupm5/SH3_BBRichelieu.zip

Best regards,
Stefan

Kendras
01-30-17, 11:01 AM
Thank you very much for the conversion, happy that you finally managed to do it ! :up:

I think it is possible to convert her for SH3. I'm trying to convert another ship of Karle94 for SH3 - BB Richelieu. I faced a lot of problems but I think I'd have relevant experience to start conversion of BB King George V too if I'd be able to complete my work with BB Richelieu.

So, your next work should be about King G. V ... :D

There is a beautiful model here :


http://p3dm.ru/index.php?do=files&op=search&search_text=Silent%20Hunter%205%20Battle%20of%20th e%20Atlantic&cstart=1

http://p3dm.ru/uploads/download/boat/thumbs/1428610215_king-george-v-battleship_1.jpg


I already made a proposal about it :

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2454712&postcount=28

Stefan Thimme
01-30-17, 12:06 PM
Thank You very much for good words. To be frank I have already started work with BB KGV. It is not based on the model of SH5. I use model of Karle94 as basic.

But the release will be not soon due to the same reasons like in case with BB Richelieu.

Thank you very much for the conversion, happy that you finally managed to do it ! :up:



So, your next work should be about King G. V ... :D

There is a beautiful model here :


http://p3dm.ru/index.php?do=files&op=search&search_text=Silent%20Hunter%205%20Battle%20of%20th e%20Atlantic&cstart=1

http://p3dm.ru/uploads/download/boat/thumbs/1428610215_king-george-v-battleship_1.jpg


I already made a proposal about it :

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2454712&postcount=28

itadriver
01-30-17, 05:07 PM
Very good!!! 😀

gap
01-30-17, 05:34 PM
Another good conversion, well done Stefan, but how I wish to see those beauties AO-mapped! :D

If the original models had been released as SHIV units, they should have an ambient occlusion map already... :hmmm:

Stefan Thimme
01-30-17, 05:52 PM
Dear Mr. Gap,

This is original mod of Karle94.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/gz6fs5b8hi47h9d/Richelieu_V1.1.rar

Unfortunately it is all what I had starting conversion. In fact reworked dat. file from the old mod is used. Sim.file is used partially. All other files are new.

Another good conversion, well done Stefan, but how I wish to see those beauties AO-mapped! :D

If the original models had been released as SHIV units, they should have an ambient occlusion map already... :hmmm:

Stefan Thimme
02-05-17, 03:27 AM
BB Richelieu is released. Please see the post #1.

VonDos
02-05-17, 06:23 PM
Special thanks to VonDos for his help with testing of BBRichelieu when I faced problems with stability of my computer.

Stefan


Very nice unit mate! In my old and in my new PC :up:
Thanks!
:salute:

Kendras
02-05-17, 08:03 PM
Yes, I agree, even if she's not as detailed as the Strasbourg class battleship. Good job.

:Kaleun_Applaud:

Kendras
02-05-17, 10:47 PM
Mmh, it seems there is a problem about the size of the ship. I've created a single mission to compare the Richelieu with the Dunkerque :

http://i.imgur.com/rkhDGXk.png

In reality (Richelieu=248 meters --- Dunkerque=214 meters) :

http://i.imgur.com/xWYMkzm.gif

http://i.imgur.com/XZ2HyN5.png

Kendras
02-05-17, 11:09 PM
Here is a highly detailed model of the Richelieu battleship, but it is not free ... :(

https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/french-battleship-richelieu-3d-model/666223

Stefan Thimme
02-06-17, 10:42 AM
Dear Mr. Kendras,

Pls compare this BB Richelieu (248 m) with BB Bismark (251m) from SH3...

Stefan


Mmh, it seems there is a problem about the size of the ship. I've created a single mission to compare the Richelieu with the Dunkerque :



In reality (Richelieu=248 meters --- Dunkerque=214 meters) :

Kendras
02-06-17, 12:55 PM
Dear Mr. Kendras,

Pls compare this BB Richelieu (248 m) with BB Bismark (251m) from SH3...

Stefan

So, it appears that the Dunkerque is not modeled at the proper scale ! I've found more than 260 meters in length ! I have resized it to have 214 meters, but now, this is what we get :

http://i.imgur.com/NwfWu0b.png

All the sub-objects must be resized (around 80 % !) and replaced ! :k_confused:

What a nightmare ! :wah:

Stefan Thimme
02-06-17, 01:21 PM
I propose to remain BB Dunkerque as she is. She is very beautiful. It is one of the best models of Gerome 73 ever made as for me. But it is my opinion only. :Kaleun_Salute:

So, it appears that the Dunkerque is not modeled at the proper scale ! I've found more than 260 meters in length ! I have resized it to have 214 meters, but now, this is what we get :



All the sub-objects must be resized (around 80 % !) and replaced ! :k_confused:

What a nightmare ! :wah:

the_frog
02-07-17, 03:57 PM
Hello,

at the time when Gerome73 made the NBB Strasbourg, the biggest problem with creating new ships was to do the damage files (no easy-to-work-with-S3Ditor). Therefore, damage files of existing models where adopted, which means the models where scaled to that size. The Strasboug uses the damage file of the NBB Bismarck, thus, the model is of the size of the Bismarck.
Another exanple is NCA Zara, whichis scaled up to the size of NCA Hipper. In case of the County classes, the damage files of NBB Revenge was used, which explains problems with sinking those cruisers.

Probably, some peoples noticed when I presented pictures of NDD Malin, NBB Strasbourg was about the right size. That's because I re-scaled the model (also I re-equipped her).

Here's that re-scaled model, with all items required. Note, the files are only tested for my own private SH3 setup, which differes much from most big mods. The model, therefore, may not work perfectly in other mod soups. So, use at own risk:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/3lebawu1oxvl37u/NBB_Strasbourg_revised.7z

Cheers

Kendras
02-07-17, 04:31 PM
Hello,

at the time when Gerome73 made the NBB Strasbourg, the biggest problem with creating new ships was to do the damage files (no easy-to-work-with-S3Ditor). Therefore, damage files of existing models where adopted, which means the models where scaled to that size. The Strasboug uses the damage file of the NBB Bismarck, thus, the model is of the size of the Bismarck.
Another exanple is NCA Zara, whichis scaled up to the size of NCA Hipper. In case of the County classes, the damage files of NBB Revenge was used, which explains problems with sinking those cruisers.

Probably, some peoples noticed when I presented pictures of NDD Malin, NBB Strasbourg was about the right size. That's because I re-scaled the model (also I re-equipped her).

Here's that re-scaled model, with all items required. Note, the files are only tested for my own private SH3 setup, which differes much from most big mods. The model, therefore, may not work perfectly in other mod soups. So, use at own risk:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/3lebawu1oxvl37u/NBB_Strasbourg_revised.7z

Cheers

The frog .......... I'm speechless .....

thank you ....... http://www.smileysnetwork.com/respect/respect18.gif

VonDos
03-15-17, 11:35 AM
Hello,

Another exanple is NCA Zara, whichis scaled up to the size of NCA Hipper.

Cheers

Maybe do you re-scaled NCA Zara also? :hmmm::O:

the_frog
03-15-17, 05:46 PM
Maybe do you re-scaled NCA Zara also? :hmmm::O:

Maybe :03:

Kendras
03-23-17, 12:03 PM
And have you already modelled a Liberty ship ? That would be so cool ! :yep:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/Libertyship_linedrawing_en.jpg/1280px-Libertyship_linedrawing_en.jpg?1490288583259

the_frog
03-23-17, 03:35 PM
So, you do not like the SH3 version of the Liberty cargos? :D

Welll, consider to convert the SH4 model; it's a bit better. Or try to make use of the model that came with SH5; that one is almost correct :03:


And have you already modelled a Liberty ship ? That would be so cool ! :yep:

VonDos
03-23-17, 05:03 PM
A nice reworked liberty was released also by IAMBECOMELIFE, years ago:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom//showthread.php?t=141491

Kendras
03-23-17, 05:19 PM
I want the SH5 ships ! :wah:

the_frog
03-23-17, 06:47 PM
kendras, not so long ago I posted the link to the 3D models of all vessels in SH5. Download the Liberty cargo model and start placing it into the SH3 files. All 3D adjustment can be done with Wings3D (however, Blender and Meshlab are useful, too), Photoshop/Gimp, and the S3Ditor. No hex-editing required :03:

Kendras
03-23-17, 07:19 PM
... but ...

all models are somewhat distorted and need fine tuning of the meshes. I recently re-worked one of the models for private purposes and that was no fun ... :doh:

well ... :D

Kendras
03-23-17, 07:37 PM
Running windows XP, I can't download 3D Max, so I can't open the .max file attached ...