REQ - Permission for use a guns library

[VonDos]

Hi everyone!
While finally testing RM Aquila new carrier, i've readed original project's specifications about guns:

MAIN --> 8 × 135 mm (5.3 in)/45 cal guns
SECONDARY --> 12 × 65 mm (2.56 in)/64 cal guns
A\A --> 132 × 20 mm (0.79 in)/65 cal

At moment ingame model use as secondary guns 4.0 in. single from standard guns library. Powerfull. Too powerfull in place of a 65mm cannon.

I've searched into my library folder a more "historical" or similar gun, i've found "76mmRSingle" from gunsVaa_Liliput.dat, i think from "Vaa_Liliput"
I've searched this member but i can find he, for ask permission to use his guns in final release. Does anyone know how to contact him for ask?
Naturally if ok for him, i'll give credits :yeah:

http://s32.postimg.org/az4a8ytdh/guns.jpg

[Sailor Steve]

I can't find an user by that name or any name close to it. Where did you get the file from?

[gap]

@ VonDos

Bitts and railings on the lower deck are black rather than metal-gray. Did you make them like this on purpose or what is going on with their texture? :hmm2:

[gap]

135 mm/45 (5.3") Models 1937 and 1938 (http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNIT_53-45_m1938.htm)
65 mm/64 (2.56") Model 1939 (http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNIT_65mm-64_m1939.htm)
20 mm/65 Models 1935, 1939 and 1940 (Breda) (http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNIT_20mm-65.htm)

The 20mm guns were in a uncommon sextuple-mount configuration. I would be curious to see how they looked like :hmm2:

[Anvar1061]

I can't find an user by that name or any name close to it. Where did you get the file from?
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1014688&postcount=1

[s7rikeback]

I can't find an user by that name or any name close to it. Where did you get the file from?

VonDos

denis 469 seems to be your best point of contact..

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom//showpost.php?p=461732&postcount=4

regards,
s7rikeback

[VonDos]

Thanks everyone! PM sent to Denis_469, waiting for..

@gap, yes, i've painted them black :rotfl2: in this "detailed" pic they looks bad, but if you see the entire unit from a "normal" distance the effect is really good :up:

I think sextuple-mount configuration was just a project version, never realized (ingame i've used a quadruple more generic a\a)

[Fahnenbohn]

Were there really so many A/A guns ???

[Sailor Steve]

Were there really so many A/A guns ???
British Illustrious class carriers had 16 x 4.5" guns, 48 x 2pdr and 40 x 20mm.

American Essex class carriers carried 12 x 5" guns, 72 x 40mm and 52 , 20mm.

They had a bit of protection.

[VonDos]

Japanese Shinano had:

8 × twin 12.7 cm Type 89 dual-purpose guns
35 × triple 25 mm Type 96 AA guns
12 × 28 – 12 cm (4.7 in) AA rocket launchers

O_O


ps @ gap

Bitts will be repainted in dark gray.. i see they're good =)

[gap]

Bitts will be repainted in dark gray.. i see they're good =)

Whatever you think looks better :up:
I asked about bitts and railings not because I didn't like their current colour, but because I thought they could be missing their texture :03:

About the guns, if I find good pictures, with my time I might model the Italian 65 mm/cal 64 gun, and possibly the 135 mm/cal 45, if they are not featured in any of the SH games yet.

[VonDos]

Hi gap =) i'm not an expert in mod library models \ guns, but post if you want the pics, they can be really interesting!

BTW, Vaa allow me to use gunsVaa_Liliput library =) so release is really near!

[mikey117us]

Also Gap is it possible to think of Modeling Single and Twin 12.7mm Breda SAFAT Heavy AA Machine Guns? The Twin SAFAT was also mounted on Turm VIIC/1 in 23 and 29 Flottillas in the Med, Real U-Boat Mod! They expanded and lenghthened the Wintergartens to give extra AA Defenses and mounted these built under license By Pre-War Agreement Browning M2 .50 caliber MGs Breda Manufactured. Breda also Sold Permission to the Japanese to build them as Aircraft Armaments and Vessel AA.

[Jeff-Groves]

BTW, Vaa allow me to use gunsVaa_Liliput library =) so release is really near!

Be aware that GWX 3 uses his Guns files already.
:03:

[VonDos]

Hi Jeff!
I think files are same, shouldn't be a problem to overwrite them with JSGME or manually :up: (tested on my SH3+GWX3+a lot of mods)

[gap]

Hi gap =) i'm not an expert in mod library models \ guns, but post if you want the pics, they can be really interesting!

BTW, Vaa allow me to use gunsVaa_Liliput library =) so release is really near!

Also Gap is it possible to think of Modeling Single and Twin 12.7mm Breda SAFAT Heavy AA Machine Guns?

Any gun is possible as far as a good set of pictures (photographs of decent resolution showing the gun from different angles) or, even better, techical drawings of it are available.

Talking about Italian big caliber guns, in general they fired heavier shells than their British counterparts and they had a longer range, but they had an higher dispersion and a lower rate of fire. Also, the Italians were missing the sophisticated fire direction control devices that allied naval vessels were equipped with from middle war, thus lacking their precision. Where needed, it would be nice equipping Italian warships added so far to the game with their proper guns, modelled to resemble their real counterparts both in appearance and performance. :)

[Anvar1061]

I have two different files gunsVaa_Liliput
http://uploads.ru/NDTdz.jpg

[VonDos]

@Anvar1061 Mine come from GWX 3.0. What is the other? There's something more inside? Are they compatible?

[Anvar1061]

@Anvar1061 Mine come from GWX 3.0. What is the other? There's something more inside? Are they compatible?

I don't known
http://uploads.ru/NDTdz.jpg

[VonDos]

I don't known
http://uploads.ru/NDTdz.jpg

The second one, made in 2010, appear to be bigger 2200 k in place of 1800; i think this can be a successive version.
Please can you send me the library or link, for test?
I think release the newest version should solve every problem :sunny:
Ps there are 2 versions also for LightsVaa_Liliput?

[Jeff-Groves]

If the Guns you need are in the first version why would you toss in the over head of the larger version?

[VonDos]

If the Guns you need are in the first version why would you toss in the over head of the larger version?

Mmm first version is ok, and contain all i need. But if someone has the second, and while installing my mod he overwrite the secon with first, maybe he can lost something required in others mod.

A solution maybe can be:

- if you have Vaa library files (no matter if first or second version) download only ship files
- if you don't have Vaa library files, download them also now.

Could this be a good idea? :sunny:

[Anvar1061]

I send you a PM PS. You can find in my game .

[VonDos]

Thanks a lot! I'll test as soon as possible!
Best regards,
Vd

ps 2010 lights library appear to be the same as 2007 version.
2010 guns library appear to include also a pair of big weapons and somethnig like a rangefinder. All previous guns are included... :yeah:
I'll test if overwriting old version with new something will change :D

[VonDos]

Tested now; all appear to be ok :up: also with other units who use library
Best regards,
Vd

[Aquelarrefox]

hi. Stupid question. newest version, modifiqued the data for same guns in previus version?

[VonDos]

hi. Stupid question. newest version, modifiqued the data for same guns in previus version?

Not so stupid question, really.
I've verifyed and parameters for some guns into different version, and they're just the same thing.
Only interesting thing i've found, "Ru37mmSingle" has been renamed "37RuSingle" in new version..