Help with LSH install

[Darthlucky]

Whenever I try to install I get the following message when I'm at the part to select where the downloaded files go
"You have selected this path:
C:\ProgramFiles (x86)\Ubisoft\SilentHunterIII\

SH3 must not be installed in this path!
Please install SH3 anywhere else!

Spaces are not allowed in file names or paths.

What do I do?

[Darthlucky]

I've got GWX 3.0 and it runs fine, I can't get this to work. Do I need to do a new uninstall/install of SH3?

[Sailor Steve]

With recent editions of Windows they decided that Program Files is for their use only. Some programs work inside it just fine, others not so much. Whether you have some things working in Program Files, it's still better to install the game in its own folder somewhere else on the drive.

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi Darthlucky

Just make a new folder on your C drive and install it there.

Peter

[Darthlucky]

Ok, I'll do a new install of SH3 in it's own folder, I keep getting something about not having the SH3.exe if I put LSH in it's own folder with no SH3 files

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi Darthlucky

You download to that folder and then extract the contents to it.
It is very important that you find the PDF installation information 2015 and follow the instructions precisely.

Peter

[Darthlucky]

Well, now I'm boned. I uninstalled SH3, to put it into it's own folder...now when I go to play it, I get an error message saying it can't run on my laptop, one that it was already on. I'm going to have to buy it from steam and go that route. I'm so aggravated.

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi Darthlucky

You have a problem left over from your un-install.
Downloading another version is more than likely to show up the same problem.
Uninstall again.
Check your control panel and go to Programs and Features and see if SH3 is still there.
Check your folders and see if there is anything left over, JSGME SH3 Commander etc.
Delete any relevant folders.
Did you run a registry cleaner and then reboot your system before re-installing again?
Post #70 How To Use The Free Registry Cleaner Ccleaner (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2202382&postcount=70)

Never install in the program (x86) folder

Peter

[GT182]

If you installed SH3 in , lets say, Games folder you made, go back and open up that folder after the uninstall. I bet there's a data folder or .dat file still in there. Just delete it and you should be good to install SH3 again.

[Darthlucky]

Ok, here goes nothing. I'm trying to do a reinstall. If this doesn't work, if I were to buy the game from Steam, I'd have the same issues? I did own two versions of SH3, one I got close to when it came out, another I bought in 2012, both were new. The older box is bigger and thicker than the newer one, could that also be an issue?

[SquareSteelBar]

If the reinstallation will fail again -> try this (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2313836#post2313836).

Close all other applications and run it as admin. Be patient - it may last some minutes.
After this an automatic reboot will be done. Then do the reinstallation of SH3 and don't forget to change the default installation path.

[Darthlucky]

Nope, same issue. Tried the registry cleaner, went through all the program files to see if anything was there. It keeps saying the game won't work with the verson of windows that I have. Is it really as simple as buying a newer copy of the game, woyld that help? This is my favorite game, and I waited YEARS to get a computer/laptop that would play it and now I've ruined it. Ugh :dead:

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi Darthlucky

From the installation instructions page 2.
Laptop players
: Older or recent budget laptops with integrated / onboard GPU are not suited for LSH3 Edition 2015.

Peter

[Darthlucky]

I bought the laptop in 2012, it's a HP and it's not a budget one. The issue I'm having now isn't with LSH. It's with SH3. I uninstalled it, then reinstalled it...now I can't even play vanilla SH3. I keep getting a weird error message.

[SquareSteelBar]

...the game won't work with the verson of windows that I have...What version is it?

Did yo really try the tool mentioned in post #11?

[SquareSteelBar]

... I keep getting a weird error message.Do a screenshot and post it here, please.

[Darthlucky]

I didn't see that post, I'll try it

[Darthlucky]

It's an HP Pavillion, I got it in 2012 when I was in AIT at Ft.Lee. I'm assuming it's windows 7, vanilla SH3 and GWX 3.0 ran like a dream, as did SH4, which I still have on it. SH5 ran slow unless I lowered the graphic settings.

[Darthlucky]

I can't post a screen shot right now, but here is the text of the message
"This application can be launched with a release version of Microsoft Windows 95 OSR2.1/98ME/NT4.0/2000/XP/ Server 2003 Only"

THen I have two options to click either "information" or "ok

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi Dartlucky

I do not know that much about the technical side of computers.
To me it looks like from your error message it is looking for a compatibility mode?

Regarding the LSH3-2015 gpu situation this might be down to where a lot of systems have integrated graphics.

LSH3-2015 is a big mega mod, I have a 4gig gpu and I can go from 60 to 600 fps depending on what is happening.
Expanding the map right out really lowers the frame rate quite considerably.

Peter

[Darthlucky]

I'm not worried about LSH running slow, I'm just trying to get my original SH3 running at this point. I did buy two separate copies, one is in a thick case, one is in a slim case. To the best of my knowledge, only the big case (original purchase) has a CD key, the slim one didn't. Are there different retail versions of SH3? Is it just the older, first run disks that have this issue

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi Darthlucky

It is important when purchasing discs that you get a Starforce Free Version.

The dvd you are looking for will be showing ESS632.

The Starforce Free Version will be Black at the Bottom and White at the Top.

A typical File Version showing in Properties is 8.2.160.0

Product Version 1.4.0000

Date modified 18/08/2006

Do not be misled by the silver band at the top of the Dvd case that says Games in white letters which is irrelevant.

The Starforce Version will be Black at the Bottom and Silver at the Top.

These have a Product Version showing in Properties of 1.00.0000

This version does not have the latest patch and has copy write protection.

Peter

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi Darthlucky

We will assume that your dvd is Starforce free.
When you load the dvd in the drive exit from the installer.
Go to your dvd drive number on the laptop and open it.
You should be able to see the install application.
Right click on it and see if it will give you the option to run as administrator.
Even if you cannot run it as administrator you can still run it from there.

IIRC you do not have to register or use a CD key.
I think a box comes up and you click on "never" IIRC.

Check that your program (x86) folder does not contain anything SH3.

Never load the game to the program (x86) folder as games are usually 32 bit programs they will always look for that folder to install in.

I am still confused as you can see why you have previously run SH3 and now you are having this difficulty.
I can see no logical reason why the basic SH3 installation will not work unless you still have some left overs somewhere on your laptop that have not been removed.

You could also try using the Windows Search function and enter some logical search words/names and see if it turns anything up.

Getting desperate now, running out of ideas.

Peter

[SquareSteelBar]

...Is it just the older, first run disks that have this issue...Don't use the older DVD with CD key, it includes StarForce copy protection which is not compatible to Win7, 8 ,8.1, 10.

Use only the younger disk without CD key! There's no StarForce in it.
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If there's still a failed installation from the older DVD of SH3 on your computer do the folowing:

- delete completely the whole installation directory of SH3
- close all other applications
- run that tool (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2313836&postcount=1) as admin
- after the reboot install SH3 from the younger DVD [not into default installation folder!]

[Darthlucky]

It looks like the issue is just the fact that I have the older DVD, hopefully I can find the newer one...else Jeff Bezos gets more of my money :wah:

[Darthlucky]

When you say it will be black at the bottom and silver at the top for the StarForce version, do you mean the case or the DVD

[blackswan40]

Hi there Darthlucky I have a spare copy of SH3 all ready patched to 1.4 no starforce protection & once installed you don't need the SH3 DVD Disc in your drive just pm me your home addres & ill ship it out to you Kapitan
AT SUBSIM THE PRIDE RUNS DEEP & WE LOOK AFTER OUR OWN

Regards blackswan40 Salute

:Kaleun_Salute:

[Darthlucky]

I'm going to dig around my parents house, look for that second DVD that I'd bought, if not, like I said in my PM, I'll get a copy on amazon that has SH2&3 double cd. Thank you again for you offer. The community here is amazing, if only the fundraiser had gone on for one more day....didn't get paid till this morning :wah:

[SquareSteelBar]

I'm going to dig around my parents house, look for that second DVD that I'd bought...If you don't find it you don't absolutely need to buy another one.

Look here:

How to play Silent Hunter III without the DVD in the DVD Drive (Starforce free) (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1234315&postcount=1)
One hint: follow precisely what Uncle Neal wrote there! Particularly not to launch the game before all steps are done. Therefore you've to remove some checkmarks at the end of installations.

When you're done with that procedure burn the entire content of the SH3 installation folder to a blank DVD. You can use it as file backup and as a virgin base for further big mods.
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[THEBERBSTER]

Hi Darthlucky

The answer to your question > dvd
The case is irrelevant.

The double version you mention.
This sounds like the new Canadian Encore version sold from the U.S.A. containing both SHII and SHIII.

I believe there is a problem with this as my experience with it is that although it allows you to browse your system it will still only allow it to install in the program (x86) folder on the C drive, nowhere else.
When you try to load somewhere else or a different drive it comes up with an error code.

Peter

[Darthlucky]

I'm not buying the double pack, don't feel like waiting till mid November for it to arrive lol. The download from Amazon should work right? Or steam?

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi Darthlucky

There is a Revival version of SH3 on Ebay for £2.57 with free delivery.

Unbeatable value.

Peter

[Sjizzle]

I'm not buying the double pack, don't feel like waiting till mid November for it to arrive lol. The download from Amazon should work right? Or steam?

amazon download version works very well also :D

[Darthlucky]

HUZZAH! The amazon download works....now to see if LSH will work when I download it.

[Darthlucky]

IT WORKS! AN ANGEL HAS IT'S WINGS! Thank you all for your help and support.

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi Darthlucky

Great news, I thought at one point a name change might be on the horizon.:sunny:

I hope you enjoy it as much as I am.:up:

Peter