WAC5.0 update

[HanSolo78]

Hi guys!

I plan to update the WAC and want to know what mods this update should have?
What ideas do you have?

Regards
Han

[torpille]

hello Han ,
with Front End included , more simply.......

[HanSolo78]

Just auf short list what is planned:

-FM interior for type VII
-FM interior for type IX (ported from type VII)
-Tommy_99 interior Type II
-NEW Tommy_99 Type II engine room
-FrontEnd included and matched to WAC
-Frozen harbours from veers
-Wide Screen Mod
-Enigma machine (usable)
-Commando Radio messages encrypted with enigma Codes
-Improved museum
-Wolfpack matched campaign
-New units
-extended challenge Mod

There is still much to do... I also have more ideas like destructive buildings but time is limited.

[jaxa]

I wanna see those mods in GWX too.
It's a pity that GWX Team have gone and nobody develop this project now.
I want another HanSolo for GWX :)

[torpille]

Just auf short list what is planned:

-FM interior for type VII
-FM interior for type IX (ported from type VII)
-Tommy_99 interior Type II
-NEW Tommy_99 Type II engine room
-FrontEnd included and matched to WAC
-Frozen harbours from veers
-Wide Screen Mod
-Enigma machine (usable)
-Commando Radio messages encrypted with enigma Codes
-Improved museum
-Wolfpack matched campaign
-New units
-extended challenge Mod

There is still much to do... I also have more ideas like destructive buildings but time is limited.
magnifique !:subsim:

[KapitanFrank]

destructive buildings? :hmmm: what does that imply? what does it mean? :o

[fitzcarraldo]

Just auf short list what is planned:

-FM interior for type VII
-FM interior for type IX (ported from type VII)
-Tommy_99 interior Type II
-NEW Tommy_99 Type II engine room
-FrontEnd included and matched to WAC
-Frozen harbours from veers
-Wide Screen Mod
-Enigma machine (usable)
-Commando Radio messages encrypted with enigma Codes
-Improved museum
-Wolfpack matched campaign
-New units
-extended challenge Mod

There is still much to do... I also have more ideas like destructive buildings but time is limited.

I like to see in WAC 5 an special version of the new (WIP) MaGUI U BOOT HAHD. Please contact Makman for that :up:

Also, there is a lot of ships with scripts by Wreford Brown. Nice to see the ships and planes included in the new version.

What about the Wise&Kovall Type VII and Type IX new models (they are better than SH5)? Contact Wise to that :up: Please!

New Lorient port mod is a must have for Type IX boats in Flotilla 2.

All the best!

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[Stahlsarg-Tobi]

Hi Han!

Geile Idee!
Das freut mich!
-Perhaps a small update for the Commander?
-H.sie's Implentments for WAC?(i'm a bit to "Faul"!)for manually changing...Stiebler Implentments,too?
-Ziczacing Layers For Vessels and Convois? (they are all to easy to find!)
-Raising or lowering speed of ships when sighting Uboats or Torpedos?(Besserer Ausweichkurs),
-More (or better the most) Marchants armed with guns also at the beginning and the earlier wartime?(Churchill gave a order to arm all the marchants to avoid surface attaks of U-Boats!just after war starts!) Or did they hit themselves,especially in Convois?
-More allied Planes with the correct range?(Better modelling of the gap in the Atlantic in way the war goes because i do'nt remember being attacted
by planes out of the coastel waters,but this is perhaps my Problem,never played a campaign after 1943.
-The Convois are'nt big enough because I read in books that Convois containing more than40 or 60 marchants;in SH3 I never see a convoi with more than 20-24 ships!

Is someting of this possible because of limitations of hardcoded or the system requierements?

Thank You for the big work at this game to all modders!!!

Geetings!:)

[HanSolo78]

destructive buildings? :hmmm: what does that imply? what does it mean? :o

Only an idea. Could be used for special operations, was my thought.
'destroy ... research Station..etc.'
But will surely not be in this update.

@fitzcarraldo

Maybe Ma GUI. Did not compare the WS Mods until now. Only worked on the new interiors.
What so you mean with these scripted ships?
New Lorient I have to see... Cause WAC4.1 was already released with many new realistic ports.
New 3d models from wise.. I also have to see. What are the improvements to wac4.1 models?

@stahlsarg-tobi
Zickzacking convoys with changing speed are already included in wac.
Better escape AI is maybe hardcoded.. Maybe stiebler or h.sie can solve this
Atlantic gap is a good idea.
Bigger convoys is possible. But will definately ne cpu intensive.
Have to look what convoy sizes are in WAC now.

[fitzcarraldo]

Only an idea. Could be used for special operations, was my thought.
'destroy ... research Station..etc.'

Some Drumbeat boats shelled oil refineries in Venezuela coast and Aruba (not many destruction, BTW). Interesting sites for destructive buildings.

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[Magic1111]

As I wrote on german marinesims forum:

All the MODS from Aces, like

- super turms
- crew stands on deck
- Advanced bunker

Anvarts MODS:

- Radar Antenna ("Funkpeilrahmen") up/down
- FuMo 30 up/down

[fitzcarraldo]

As I wrote on german marinesims forum:

All the MODS from Aces, like

- super turms
- crew stands on deck
- Advanced bunker

Anvarts MODS:

- Radar Antenna ("Funkpeilrahmen") up/down
- FuMo 30 up/down

I buy your idea.:up:

But...Aces never did a compatible Super Turms for FM Interiors 2. Only work with FM Interior 1.0.

Regards.

Fitzcarraldo :up:

[Fahnenbohn]

Hi guys!

I plan to update the WAC and want to know what mods this update should have?
What ideas do you have?

Regards
Han

You're not serious ?! WAC 4.1 is just perfect ! :up: Maybe a 4.2 version with new mods ...

Regards

F.

[Ahnenerbe]

HanSolo78, there is an opportunity to do something related to Neu-Schwabenland? It would be interesting...........

[Magic1111]

But...Aces never did a compatible Super Turms for FM Interiors 2. Only work with FM Interior 1.0.


Hmm, but what have "Turms" (= outside the Boat) to do with Interior (= inside the boat)? :hmmm:

Maybe it is only the cameras.dat that must made compatible, should be not a big problem! :03:

[fitzcarraldo]

Hmm, but what have "Turms" (= outside the Boat) to do with Interior (= inside the boat)? :hmmm:

Maybe it is only the cameras.dat that must made compatible, should be not a big problem! :03:

No. Remember Aces adds some stuff in the conning tower interior when the boat dives (machine guns, helmets, etc). This changes the interiors. If you use Aces Super Turms and Interiors v2, you will have some problems. No CTD, but some graphics elements will be missed. With Interiors v1 Aces did the Aces Compatibility...etc mod.

Also need, of course, an adjust of cameras.dat.

All the best.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[fitzcarraldo]

HanSolo78, there is an opportunity to do something related to Neu-Schwabenland? It would be interesting...........

Welcome back Ahnenerbe! Some UFOs in SH3??? Also V2 rockets flying to New York!!! (of course, they never arrived) :rock:

BTW, I sent you a PM some time ago. I sent you another PM. Please, read it!

Best regards.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[Anvar1061]

HanSolo78, there is an opportunity to do something related to Neu-Schwabenland? It would be interesting...........
Welcome back Ahnenerbe! Some UFOs in SH3??? Also V2 rockets flying to New York!!! (of course, they never arrived)


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[avers]

have the V16B1 patch kit all set up and all we have to do is open the options selector.

[Jeff-Groves]

have the V16B1 patch kit all set up and all we have to do is open the options selector.
Waiting for BL!TZKR!EG in 5, 4, 3, 2,
:haha:

[avers]

Waiting for BL!TZKR!EG in 5, 4, 3, 2,
:haha:

Why? What's he gonna do? what is he gonna say? Should I hide?:o

[Jeff-Groves]

No. But you opened the door to another "S3F already does this" post.
:har:

[Fahnenbohn]

Waiting for BL!TZKR!EG in 5, 4, 3, 2,
:haha:

:DL :ping:

[HanSolo78]

So.. all in all... there is a demand in eye candy mods?

-Wise Uboats
-Aces improvements (bunkers, Tuns, Crew on deck)
-volumetric clouds

Btw, do Wise Uboats have exhaust smoke and waterstreams?

[Fahnenbohn]

Hey HanSolo78 !

If you want to improve visual aspects, it would be so great to change waterstreams on U-Boots : i find them to small and too transparent. They would be much nicer if they were as on this picture :

http://nsm08.casimages.com/img/2015/08/04//15080407291418069013487371.jpg (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=15080407291418069013487371.jpg)

[Stahlsarg-Tobi]

Hi!
Eye-candy is even good,but:
More guns on Marchants? Especially single marchants! This would be great because it avoids to much surface attaks on marchants,for my opinion I'm not a pocket-battleship:)! Even Churchill forced this in !939.Pehaps it's possible to raise the speed of ships being haunted by subs with a better course to avoid torpedo inpacts? Such a vessel would send a radio massage too,so some help will arrive in some case...planes or destroyers.
The game is really good now,but i think there can be more violence against U-Boats even at the beginning of war.Remember there were lost a lot of subs even when the war starts(more than in WWI).
Also remember there were grid points convois getting support groups from iceland and planes should be able to patrol so far away of their bases as their range is,not only in coastel waters.
I missed this in all the mods I tasted,perhaps it's my desire because I'm not able to reach the later years,only late-1942.
Is the neutral shipping for the allies there now,unilluminated?
Perhaps you could put more music in the grammophone?
And you think it's possible to put more ships in convois?
I think my computer will eat this in the moment!

Thank you for asking what users think!

Tobi:salute:

[HanSolo78]

Hey HanSolo78 !

If you want to improve visual aspects, it would be so great to change waterstreams on U-Boots : i find them to small and too transparent. They would be much nicer if they were as on this picture :

http://nsm08.casimages.com/img/2015/08/04//15080407291418069013487371.jpg (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=15080407291418069013487371.jpg)

Very good idea! Especially on storms and Bad weather I think.

[Jeff-Groves]

And I plug your work with a little of my humor and your panties go in a bind?

Don't worry. I'll never suggest your work again.
:nope:

Maybe I'll check to be sure it's not TO Intrusive?
Seeing as you do search ones drives.
You may also want to check the rules.
"Private Messages are private."
Stating I did not answer could be considered violating that rule if the rule is applied properly.
You've gotten away with a lot of stuff in the last year or so.
Maybe someone will finally put the hammer to you if things go evenly.
If they decide I get hammered? Can't really say I care much.
It would only prove what I'm seeing is correct.

[avers]

Hi guys!

I plan to update the WAC and want to know what mods this update should have?
What ideas do you have?

Regards
Han

I am very glad to see you will be updating this mod, especially sense the new LSH3 wasn't all I was hoping for. I think u should include ultimate air and sea mod by wrefred brown.

[HanSolo78]

I am very glad to see you will be updating this mod, especially sense the new LSH3 wasn't all I was hoping for. I think u should include ultimate air and sea mod by wrefred brown.
Do you have a link?


@Jeff &Blitzkrieg

PLZ no further private stuff here.
It disturbs this topic and... we are no women here who struggle and keep trash talking. Solve your problems like men!!

[Jimbuna]

Cool heads everyone....you are both better than that.

Besides, England regained The Ashes today and I'm trying to savour the moment :sunny:

[fitzcarraldo]

Do you have a link?


@Jeff &Blitzkrieg

PLZ no further private stuff here.
It disturbs this topic and... we are no women here who struggle and keep trash talking. Solve your problems like men!!

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=179398&highlight=scripted+ships&page=30

Wreford Brown scripted ships.

Best regards.

Fitzcarraldo :salute:

[avers]

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=206493

WB's USAM mod.

also can you include a widescreen mod? idk which one would be compatible.

[areo16]

Waiting for BL!TZKR!EG in 5, 4, 3, 2,
:haha:

No. But you opened the door to another "S3F already does this" post.
:har:

And I plug your work with a little of my humor and your panties go in a bind?

Don't worry. I'll never suggest your work again.
:nope:

Maybe I'll check to be sure it's not TO Intrusive?
Seeing as you do search ones drives.
You may also want to check the rules.
"Private Messages are private."
Stating I did not answer could be considered violating that rule if the rule is applied properly.
You've gotten away with a lot of stuff in the last year or so.
Maybe someone will finally put the hammer to you if things go evenly.
If they decide I get hammered? Can't really say I care much.
It would only prove what I'm seeing is correct.


What the hell's your problem privateer?

No one really gives a damn if you'll suggest his work, or not.:nope:

And, conspiracy theories are bad for the soul! :up:

EDIT:

Oh, and please don't suggest or support my work either. I don't want your name associated with my projects in any way shape or form. I don't like the bad press.

Thanks!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I've already appealed for calm and civilty. Use the correct christian name in future without attempting to use another in an insulting context.
Jimbuna

[HanSolo78]

Updated the possible features:

-FM interior for type VII
-FM interior for type IX (ported from type VII)
-Tommy_99 interior Type II
-NEW Tommy_99 Type II engine room
-FrontEnd included and matched to WAC
-Frozen harbours from veers
-Wide Screen Mod
-Enigma machine (usable)
-Commando Radio messages encrypted with enigma Codes
-Improved museum
-Wolfpack matched campaign
-New units
-extended challenge Mod (more armed merchants)
-atlantic gap
-more big convoys
-aces superturms
-aces improved wac pens
-aces crew on deck
-wise new 3d sub models
-volumetric clouds
-improved waterstreams in storm
-Airtorpedo mod
- new sub skins

Changes possible!

[Fahnenbohn]

Updated the possible features:

-FM interior for type VII
-FM interior for type IX (ported from type VII)
-Tommy_99 interior Type II
-NEW Tommy_99 Type II engine room
-FrontEnd included and matched to WAC
-Frozen harbours from veers
-Wide Screen Mod
-Enigma machine (usable)
-Commando Radio messages encrypted with enigma Codes
-Improved museum
-Wolfpack matched campaign
-New units
-extended challenge Mod (more armed merchants)
-atlantic gap
-more big convoys
-aces superturms
-aces improved wac pens
-aces crew on deck
-wise new 3d sub models
-volumetric clouds
-improved waterstreams in storm
-Airtorpedo mod
- new sub skins

Changes possible!

Could I suggest you something HanSolo ? I think you shouldn't add mods which have already been released by other people, unless it's necessary, for compatibility problems with WAC 5.0. And even for compatibility problems, you may just explain how to edit the concerned files, and not join them in WAC 5.0.

I'm especially thinking at wise new 3d sub models, which are huge files to download, and maybe not everyone would like to have (although it's a great addition, sure).

Add only real NEW things !

F.

[HanSolo78]

Could I suggest you something HanSolo ? I think you shouldn't add mods which have already been released by other people, unless it's necessary, for compatibility problems with WAC 5.0. And even for compatibility problems, you may just explain how to edit the concerned files, and not join them in WAC 5.0.

I'm especially thinking at wise new 3d sub models, which are huge files to download, and maybe not everyone would like to have (although it's a great addition, sure).

Add only real NEW things !

F.

Many of these great "old" mods which are not included in WAC do need necessary changes which I have to make so that they "run" with WAC.
Also some WAC features might be lost if some of these mods are activated, this I don´t want to happen.
Many people don't have the knowledge to make these changes.
So I will include these mods, sorry.

[Fahnenbohn]

Many of these great "old" mods which are not included in WAC do need necessary changes which I have to made so that they "run" with WAC.
Also some WAC features might be lost if some of these mods are activated, this I don´t want to happen.
Many people don't have the knowledge to make these changes.


OK, I understand.

[areo16]

Is Tommy_99 still working on the Type II engine room?
:hmmm:

[HanSolo78]

Is Tommy_99 still working on the Type II engine room?
:hmmm:

No, he just gave me his work, which was made for SH4.. I converted the file to SH3 and added some small things.

Why?

[Magic1111]

Updated the possible features:

-FM interior for type VII
-FM interior for type IX (ported from type VII)
-Tommy_99 interior Type II
-NEW Tommy_99 Type II engine room
-FrontEnd included and matched to WAC
-Frozen harbours from veers
-Wide Screen Mod
-Enigma machine (usable)
-Commando Radio messages encrypted with enigma Codes
-Improved museum
-Wolfpack matched campaign
-New units
-extended challenge Mod (more armed merchants)
-atlantic gap
-more big convoys
-aces superturms
-aces improved wac pens
-aces crew on deck
-wise new 3d sub models
-volumetric clouds
-improved waterstreams in storm
-Airtorpedo mod
- new sub skins

Changes possible!

Wonderful Han, MANY MANY thx in forward!!! :woot::up:

[areo16]

No, he just gave me his work, which was made for SH4.. I converted the file to SH3 and added some small things.

Why?

Good to hear. I thought it was abandoned.

Did you look at the Type II engine room partly done by a novice a few years back?

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=201398

Also:
I tried to export the models and textures from SH5 for the type 7 using a GR2 extractor for aft torpedo an electric engines. I'm not a modeller, but a programmer, so I didn't get to far, except being able to get the models in SH3. The textures and (shading or lighting "AO") textures that accompany the regular textures I couldn't get to work right. I'm sure you've tried this already.

Have you had any luck extracting the GR2 aft torpedo room and electric engine room for the type 7 from sH5?

If you know how to do this, it would be awesome to share some info. Get some community help here. A tutorial would be awesome.

[HanSolo78]

@aero16

Sorry, never knew of this first attempt porting the engine room already in the thread you posted. I have not been very active the last months.

With SH5 stuff porting to SH3 I have not tried yet. Maybe some day... ;)

You did try that? And also got the model to work except the textures? That is a beginng!

[Jeff-Groves]

Good to hear. I thought it was abandoned.

I tried to export the models and textures from SH5 for the type 7 using a GR2 extractor for aft torpedo an electric engines. I'm not a modeller, but a programmer, so I didn't get to far, except being able to get the models in SH3. The textures and (shading or lighting "AO") textures that accompany the regular textures I couldn't get to work right. I'm sure you've tried this already.

Have you had any luck extracting the GR2 aft torpedo room and electric engine room for the type 7 from sH5?

If you know how to do this, it would be awesome to share some info. Get some community help here. A tutorial would be awesome.

TDW has a tool that may work. It's in the SH5 threads. It only exports 1 mesh at a time last I looked at it.
The only other tool that can extract both the standard texture mapping and the AO mapping is kind of a black bag thing. (RAD Games was not happy about it)
It extracts ALL the meshes in a GR2 file in one shot.

[areo16]

TDW has a tool that may work. It's in the SH5 threads. It only exports 1 mesh at a time last I looked at it.
The only other tool that can extract both the standard texture mapping and the AO mapping is kind of a black bag thing. (RAD Games was not happy about it)
It extracts ALL the meshes in a GR2 file in one shot.

I'm familiar with the black bag thing, but from my experience it doesn't export the texture files along with the obj file. GR2 editor does. Am I missing something? But exporting 1 mesh at a time (1 .obj file) isn't necessarily a bad thing. Keep the .obj smaller and easier to structure and control. How do you extract the uv2 files from the black bag exports if they don't have an AO uv2 .obj file? they just export 1 object file.

I posted here my problem with getting uv2 mapping into S3D with SH5 models:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2336751&postcount=348

[areo16]

@aero16

Sorry, never knew of this first attempt porting the engine room already in the thread you posted. I have not been very active the last months.

With SH5 stuff porting to SH3 I have not tried yet. Maybe some day... ;)

You did try that? And also got the model to work except the textures? That is a beginng!

It is a beginning. I just have issue with .uv2 mapping is all. If I can import that into S3D, then everything else should be within my sphere of knowledge. I'd love a complete VII interior!

[Fahnenbohn]

Hey, HanSolo !

I know this is a minor improvement, but I have replaced correctly all the Type VII-C zones, using some authentic german plans. Thus, there are much more realistic damage depending on the position of the depth charges' explosions.

If you are interested, i may share my work with you.

Regards

F.

[HanSolo78]

Sounds interesting but I may not gave enough resources to complete everything myself. Want you make these changes for other uboats also?

[Fahnenbohn]

Want you make these changes for other uboats also?

Mmmhh... that was not my first intention for the near future. That was just a (successful) test. But if I have enough time, I'll inform you.

[Myxale]

Could you include the Seabed Repair mod http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=957. (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=957)

It adds the Keel-Zone to the Zonefile. And it worked really well with GWX.:hmm2:

[HanSolo78]

I have to look but should be no problem, I think.

[Jimbuna]

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