RAPIDI ED INVISILI-A ITALIAN CAMPAIGN

[ArditoCorsaro]

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RAPIDI ED INVISIBILI, PARTONO I SOMMERGIBILI
(Fast and Invisibles, run the submarines)
In Italy, the submarines have a "honour place" in the heart of every sailor, "rapidi ed invisibili, partono i sommergibili", fast and invisibles run the submarines say a famous song, that after the war became the "hymn of italian submarines", a national "myth", born in Italy possibly because the italian royal submarine fleet, was been the 3° major sub fleet before the war for number of ship (like 115 to 10 june 1940, and something like 50 others build during the war, without take subs build for other nations, like brasil, sweden, spain, etc), and because of all they, the majority never come back, giving to the memory the remember of men that rest in dark deep, that in spite of everything,(fortunes of war, and subs "moderns" but unsuitable for an "convoy war", being build for a "ambush war" against the "neighborhood", (like also russian do, having do many naval blueprints with italians) have do until the end their duty dying in hard and dangerous tasks. To they, to their sacrifice, we want devote this mod. (and possibly also to my grandpa, that his 18 birthday was 80 meters undersea bombed by 5 destroyers in the "Torricelli" engine room....red sea - june 1940).
Rapidi ed Invisibili, Fast and invisibles run the submarines like the song tell, then "stories of submarines".


The mod want beto 360° degree, from the atlantic base of bordeaux (betasom) to the mediterranean, to the red sea campaign (40-41), until far east missions (in monsun gruppe there was italian subs, and this will be our first move), even doing sure some missions in spanish civil war and maybe some "spy" misson in "ethiopian war of 35-36".
Our first step will be do an italian sub playable for operation monsun vanilla, then develop all the rest by this.
We search a 3d modeler for this, i'm trying to learn how use blender 3d, etc etc but we need ofc someone that know how do.
We have just a 3d model, but need some adjustment.
All the help will be welcome of course.
Then, ending, "Alfa Tau" commanders! (Alfa Tau=in italian navy messages, mean the sinking of a enemy ship, and was used also like a wish, for commanders before go in mission).

Thanks to Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt for suggests, and for the help with informations, and thanks also to Cybermat47 for have accepted to help ourselfs.

By: Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt

Possible playable submarines: PISANI class/MAMELI class/BALILLA class/submarine FIERAMOSCA/BRAGADIN class/BANDIERA class/SETTEMBRINI class/600 serie ARGONAUTA class/ARGO class/submarine MICCA/ARCHIMEDE class/600 serie SIRENA class/GLAUCO class/600 serie PERLA class/600 serie ADUA class/BRIN class/FOCA class/MARCONI class/MARCELLO class/600 serie PLATINO class/LUIZZI class/AMMIRAGLI class/BAJAMONTI class/TRITONE class/CB class/H class.

Possible playable surfice ships: RAMB class auxiliary cruiser/MAS 500 torpedo boat/Soldati class destroyer.

Start Dates:
1940:
june 10th 1940-actions in all mediterranean sea and red sea.
august 30th 1940-actions in west and central mediterranean sea and atlantic ocean.
october 28th 1940-action in east mediterranean.
november 13th 1940- actions in west and east mediterranean sea and red sea.
1941:
january 1st 1941-action in all mediterranean sea and altantic ocean.
february 10th 1941-actions in red sea and west mediterranean sea
march 27th 1941-actions in central and east mediterranean sea and atlantic ocean.
april 16th 1941-acions in central mediterranean sea.
may 15th 1941- action in west mediterranean sea.
july 20th 1941-actions in atlantic ocean.
december 19th 1941-actions in central and east mediterranean sea.
1942:
january 1st 1942-actions in atlantic ocan.
march 22th 1942-actions in cenral mediterranean sea.
june 16th 1942-action in west and east mediterranean
august 11th 1942-actions in central mediterranean sea and atlantic ocean.
november 30th 1942-action in atlantic ocean.
1943:
january 15th 1943-action in west mediterranean sea.
march 2nd 1943-action in central-east mediterranean sea.
june 10th 1943-action in central and east mediterranean sea and atlantic ocean.
august 17th 1943-action in cntral and west mediterranean sea.
other missions:
New Constructions october 2nd 1941
New Construction october 10th 1942
submarine training missions october 1940
submarine training missions january 1941
submarine training missions february 1942
submarine training missions january 1943

[jhapprich]

No offends, but did italian submarines actually ever sink an enemy vessel intentionally

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

These are all informations about the campaign.
Campaign operation:
MEDITERRANEAN SEA (from june 10th 1940 to sept. 8th 1943
WEST MEDITERRANEAN SEA
I GRUPSOM (subs assigned per class: Marcello/ Glauco/ 600 serie Perla/ Argo,600 serie Adua/ Micca/ Foca/ H.
home port: La Spezia
II GRUPSOM (subs assigned per class: MARCELLO/MARCONI/TRITONE (from april 1943)
home port: Neaples
III GRUPSOM (subs assigned per class: Pisani (until jan. 1942)/ 600 serie Adua.
home port: Messina
VII GRUPSOM (subs assigned per class: 600 serie Adua/600 serie Argonauta/ 600 serie Perla/600 serie Platino (from nov. 1941)/ Tritone (from oct 1942).
home port: Cagliari
VIII GRUPSOM (sub assigned per class: Bandiera (until april 1942)/ 600 serie Platino (from nov. 1941).
home port: Trapani (this group operated in central mediterranean sea too).
CENTRAL MEDITERRANEAN SEA
X GRUPSOM (sub assigned per class: Mameli/Bragadin.
home port: Augusta.
IV GRUPSOM (sub assigned per class: Luizzi, Settembrini, 600 serie Argonauta, 600 serie Adua/600 serie Perla/600 serie Sirena/ Foca/Bragadin/ Ammiragli/ squalo (from march 1941) /Tritone (from june 1943).
Home port: Taranto (this group operated in west med. too)
VI GRUPSOM (sub assigned per class: 600 serie Argonauta/600 serie Sirena.
home port: Tobruk (this group stopped its activity on late september 1942); this group operated in east mediterranean too.
EAST MEDITERRANEAN SEA
IX GRUPSOM (sub assigned per class: Brin/Balilla (until feb. 1942)/ 600 serie Sirena/ squalo (from march 1941).
home port: Brindisi
V GRUPSOM ( sub assigned per class:Squalo (until march 1941)/ Archimede, 600 serie Perla/ 600 serie Adua/ Foca/ 600 serie Sirena.
home port: Leros (dodecanese)
ATLANTIC OCEAN (from august 30th 1940 to sept. 8th 1943
XI GRUPSOM (sub assigned per class: Calvi/ Marconi/ Luizzi/Marcello/Argo/ Glauco/Brin/(from may 1941: Archimede/600 serie Perla/Ammiragli (from oct 1942).
home port: bordeaux (BETASOM)
RED SEA (from june 10th 1940 to march 1st 1941
GRUPSOM A.O.I.(sub assigned per class: Brin/Archimede/ 600 serie Perla.
home port: Massawa
SCHOOL GOUPS
XII SCHOOL_GROUP(from april 30th 1941 to sept. 1943)
(sub assigned per class: Bajamonti (ex yugoslavian Smeli) (from 1941), Pisani (from 1942), Balilla and Bandiera ( from april 1942)
home port: Pola
NEW CONSTRUCTIONS
Training missions for the submarines built during the war (600 serie Platino (1941) and Tritone (1942)
home port: La Spezia

[ArditoCorsaro]

No offends, but did italian submarines actually ever sink an enemy vessel intentionally

Ofc watch the atlantic base of betasom (italian subs have operated with germans in atlantic, also doenitz have say good things about they), watch the submarines: Tazzoli and Da Vinci , that was the best sub of axis after the u boot for tonnage sink (100000-120000), or also others (some italian commander was also awarded by germans with iron cross, knight cross etc)
the problem was that italian sub was build for a war against france for example (ambush war out ports, like russian or british sometimes) not for a convoy war. Later with some adjustment (a new german style conn tower, and other) was a little better for they operating.
The usually zone was south atlantic, where they obtain many successes, not like u boot ofc (u boot have tactics and other optimized for convoy war) but the two best sub of axis for tonnage sunk, after the germans, was italians.
If you search on google this submarines (Tazzoli and Da Vinci) and their commanders, can see.
(Carlo Fecia di Cossato of Tazzoli, Gazzana of Da Vinci, and some other like i sad have also knight cross, iron cross, etc etc and just doenitz have greet italian submarines sometime, saying that the problem was the sub, not the men).
Also the commander of Atlantis, when have supply the submarine perla, was good impressed, and also when was sink, it's go on the tazzoli, and when arrived in france, have congratulated with fecia di cossato.
Watch the submarines of Betasom, in atlantic base, watch the missions of submarine Scirè (commanded by junio valerio borghese later commander of X flotilla mas of italian social republic, maybe the only italian troop that have complete autonomy by german HQ after the armistice of 43, that have transported the midgets sub in gibiltar and alexandria bases sinking the queen elizabeth and valiant battleships, where the same british admiral have awarded the durand de la penne (one of the men of midget sub, that the british have copied in their "chariots", churcill on that mission say: "today 6 italians with economical weapons have changed the balance of war in the mediterranean." or the submarine ascianghi that when the war was lost, continue to enter in enemy ports like bougie (algeria) sinking ships...and other missions like this. watch this. or if you know some u boot survivor, ask to him.).
In total italian subs sink 700 000 tonnage of ships. few in front of u boot. but i have just explained the technical problems of subs.
More tonnage of russian, that have much more problems of italians (restricted areas full of mines, few ships, technical problems, etc) having sink more than 300 000 tonnage in all war.
Also in spanish civil war have sink some ships (britain and urss call italian sub in spain: pirates, because they was neutral but help franco, like germans too).
The Enrico Toti have sink also a british sub, the triad in a mortal fight, in night. usually was british (have information by ultra) to sink axis sub outside the port. but the toti have met casually in night the triad, and after a duel have sink.
The german submariners begin was skeptical on italian submarines, but later (especially when we begin to train with german in gotenhafen) have appreciated much they. (also doenitz like i sad have do this, more than one time).
http://www.comandosupremo.com/leonardo-da-vinci-submarine.html Watch this for example.
But this it's of italian font.
Then read also this: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=8823
A last thing: one of the last axis submarine to surrender was the italian sub torelli, that was fighting under japanese flag with italian japanese crew, and in august september of 45 have take down the last b 25 of war, and later was go to surrender. :D
Also the submarine of my grandpa (Torricelli, in east african colonies) have sink the destroyer : Karthoum. i think every british here can confirm this. (hit to a torpedo depot with deck guns, kartoum it's exploted later).
And the british commander have also congratulated with my grandpa commander after capturing it (without sub, autosink by the crew after being hit).

[jhapprich]

aha. thank you for that information, didn`t know that, even after reading bagnasco.
best regards

[ArditoCorsaro]

The problem was that much modern class of italian sub, the 600 serie (sub classes: argonauta, adua, sirena, acciaio, perla, etc) was coastal-medium range sub, of medium size, not good for atlantic. and in mediterranean, was not like atlantic. was a trap. with few target, etc etc but also there, something was sink. not too. but some yes. (some british cruiser, and other).
The ocean going sub, the most succesful at least, was of 35-36 building, but other was much modern (like the marcello class of 38, and the brin class of 38-39, and also other of 40-41 like the ammiragli class).

[ArditoCorsaro]

of nothing captain ;) if you can read also "rapidi ed invisibili storie di sommergibili" if you find a translated version. tell 12 stories of subs, from end of '800 until ww2, also an austrian sub in adriatic. there are much informations and stories on italian sub.

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

Possible playable submarines: PISANI class/MAMELI class/BALILLA class/BRAGADIN class/BANDIERA class/SETTEMBRINI class/600 serie ARGONAUTA class/ARGO class/submarine MICCA/ARCHIMEDE class/600 serie SIRENA class/GLAUCO class/600 serie PERLA class/600 serie ADUA class/BRIN class/FOCA class/MARCONI class/MARCELLO class/600 serie PLATINO class/LUIZZI class/AMMIRAGLI class/BAJAMONTI class/TRITONE class/CB class/H class.

Possible playable surfice ships: RAMB class auxiliary cruiser/MAS 500 torpedo boat/MS class torpedo boat (ex german and jugoslavian schnellboats) .

Start Dates:
1940:
june 10th 1940-actions in all mediterranean sea and red sea.
august 30th 1940-actions in west and central mediterranean sea and atlantic ocean.
october 28th 1940-action in east mediterranean.
november 13th 1940- actions in west and east mediterranean sea and red sea.
1941:
january 1st 1941-action in east mediterranean sea and altantic ocean.
february 10th 1941-actions in red sea and west mediterranean sea
march 27th 1941-actions in central and east mediterranean sea and atlantic ocean.
april 16th 1941-acions in central mediterranean sea.
may 15th 1941- action in west mediterranean sea.
july 20th 1941-actions in atlantic ocean and black sea.
december 19th 1941-actions in central and east mediterranean sea.
1942:
january 1st 1942-actions in atlantic ocan.
march 22th 1942-actions in cenral mediterranean sea.
june 16th 1942-action in west and east mediterranean and black sea.
august 11th 1942-actions in central mediterranean sea, atlantic ocean and black sea.
november 30th 1942-action in atlantic ocean.
1943:
january 15th 1943-action in west mediterranean sea.
march 2nd 1943-action in central-east mediterranean sea.
june 10th 1943-action in central and east mediterranean sea and atlantic ocean.
august 17th 1943-action in cntral and west mediterranean sea and black sea.
other missions:
New Constructions october 2nd 1941
New Construction october 10th 1942
submarine training missions october 1940
submarine training missions january 1941
submarine training missions february 1942
submarine training missions january 1943

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

BLACK SEA (june 5th 1941- august 30th 1943)
GRUPPO SOMM MAR NERO: submarines per class: CB class
IV sqadriglia MAS: MAS 500/
home port: Yalta or Costanta.
WEST MED.
I squadriglia MAS: MAS type 500/MS torpedo boat (ex yugoslavian topedo boat or ex Schnellboot type S-100) from april 1941
hime port: La Spezia
CENTRAL and EAST MED
III squadriglia MAS: MAS type 500/ MS torpedo boat ( (ex yugoslavian topedo boat or ex Schnellboot type S-100) from april 1941
home port: Taranto
Gruppo F.T.A: auxiliary cruiser RAMB III
home base: Bengazi/Taranto
RED SEA (june 10th 1940- february 22th 1941)
Gruppo F.T.A. A.O.I.: auxiliari cruiser RAMB II
INDIAN OCEAN (february 22th 1941-sepember 8th 1943
home port: Kobe (from march 21th 1941 to december 1st 1941)/Batavia (december 1st 1941-september 8th 1943)
submarine warfare after september 8th 1943
INDIAN OCEAN (september 10th 1943-march 20th 1945)
UIT SOMGRUP (submarines per class: Marconi/Marcello.
home port: Bordeaux (sept. 10th 1943)/ Singapore ( dec. 1943)

[cloadmcally]

So, so,soo exited for this mod, i would love to see some screenshots in the near future :)

Forza ragazzi! Sottomarini italiani per sempre! :salute:

[Cybermat47]

So, so,soo exited for this mod, i would love to see some screenshots in the near future :)

If Ardito is okay with it, I can post some pictures of how the captain's office is coming along :up:

[Admiral Halsey]

So currently we have an Italian campaign being worked on, a new megamod for the fleet boats and lastly IABL's Wolves of the Kaiser mod for WW1 subs. If all three get released around the same time i'm going to have a very busy couple of weekends after that.

[jhapprich]

so this has not become rapidly invisible afterall? great news!!!! still waiting for that submodel of yours, ardito!

[ArditoCorsaro]

Entschuldigung! Aber seit ich habe nicht antworten von letze meldung, ich wusste nicht wenn du wolltest noch hilfe uns oder nein. XD Ja ich sprache bisschen deutsche, ich habe lebe ein jahr in Bochum. Entschuldigung fur mein nicht gutt deutsch.
About progress, we have do something about intro and captain room, and now uniforms and menu are in build. soon i will post some screenshot.
Let me talk with Kapitain Oliver for the models. Und entschuldigung fur die
missverstandnis.

[ArditoCorsaro]

If Ardito is okay with it, I can post some pictures of how the captain's office is coming along :up:

Ofc! Go. :) I have mounted time ago it for test. Good Work. Very good :)

[jhapprich]

thanks for the info! i`d prefer you write in english, so everyone can read it and i understand your English better than your German.
happy hunting!

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

These are the weapons of the italian submarines of ww2:
TORPEDOES:
type 533mm /speed:50 kn /range: 4000 mt. (for submarines);
type 450mm M/speed: 42kn/ range:3000 mt (for submarines and MAS);
type 450mm A/ speed: 35kn/ range: 3000mt (for submarines and MAS);
type 24V/24M (ex french/yugoslavian torpedos)/ speed: 45kn/ range: 4000mt (for subamrines and MS torpedo boat) from 1941;
type G7e (ex german) from 1942.
DECK GUNS:
type 76/30 mm (100 rounds) (only for the H class submarine);
type 102/35 mm (150 rounds) old type;
type 120/45 mm (200 rounds) old type;
type 100/43 mm (230 round) new type;
type 100/47 mm (650 round) new type.
FLAK GUNS:
type 13,2 mm single (3200 rounds);
type 13,2 mm double (6400 round).

[ArditoCorsaro]

thanks for the info! i`d prefer you write in english, so everyone can read it and i understand your English better than your German.
happy hunting!
There is an american fleet boat, with a hull much similar to an italian class of sub. The porpoise class have a hull much similar to the Mameli class. and also the conning tower can be modified by the american tower.
And the medium size-coastal sub of series 600, platino class it's much similar to a 7c. just something to be modified.
There is some manner for do modifications to a porpoise for transform in a mameli? (i think for begin, just the conning tower and the stern of hull must be changed).

[ArditoCorsaro]

https://www.google.it/search?hl=it&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=657&q=silent+hunter+4+shchuka&oq=silent+hunter+4+shchuka&gs_l=img.3...792.4034.0.4224.23.14.0.9.9.0.139.138 8.10j4.14.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..6.17.1400.5bDbv9R LdK0#hl=it&tbm=isch&q=classe+mameli+&imgrc=9PXxA_oA_LUCQM%3Ahttps://www.google.it/search?hl=it&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=657&q=silent+hunter+4+shchuka&oq=silent+hunter+4+shchuka&gs_l=img.3...792.4034.0.4224.23.14.0.9.9.0.139.138 8.10j4.14.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..6.17.1400.5bDbv9R LdK0#hl=it&tbm=isch&q=classe+mameli+&imgrc=9PXxA_oA_LUCQM%3Ahttps://www.google.it/search?hl=it&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=657&q=silent+hunter+4+shchuka&oq=silent+hunter+4+shchuka&gs_l=img.3...792.4034.0.4224.23.14.0.9.9.0.139.138 8.10j4.14.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..6.17.1400.5bDbv9R LdK0#hl=it&tbm=isch&q=classe+mameli+&imgrc=9PXxA_oA_LUCQM%3A https://www.google.it/search?hl=it&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=657&q=silent+hunter+4+shchuka&oq=silent+hunter+4+shchuka&gs_l=img.3...792.4034.0.4224.23.14.0.9.9.0.139.138 8.10j4.14.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..6.17.1400.5bDbv9R LdK0#hl=it&tbm=isch&q=classe+mameli+&imgrc=0BSnJAdN4PKRjM%3A That's mameli blueprint i think.
https://www.google.it/search?hl=it&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=657&q=silent+hunter+4+shchuka&oq=silent+hunter+4+shchuka&gs_l=img.3...792.4034.0.4224.23.14.0.9.9.0.139.138 8.10j4.14.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..6.17.1400.5bDbv9R LdK0#hl=it&tbm=isch&q=us+porpoise+class+sub&imgrc=-48JmD7zEwze6M%3A
Have a similar hull.

That's the side. Was an old class of 1925.https://www.google.it/search?hl=it&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=657&q=silent+hunter+4+shchuka&oq=silent+hunter+4+shchuka&gs_l=img.3...792.4034.0.4224.23.14.0.9.9.0.139.138 8.10j4.14.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..6.17.1400.5bDbv9R LdK0#hl=it&tbm=isch&q=classe+mameli+&imgrc=0BSnJAdN4PKRjM%3A

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

MAMELI CLASS: 4 units (Goffredo di Mameli/Pier Capponi/Giovanni da Procida/Tito Speri)
Displacement:
- surface: 842,5 t
- deep: 1010 t
Sizes:
- length: 64,64 m
- width: 6,52 m
speed:
- max speed surface: 17,2 kn
- max speed deep: 7,7 kn
range:
- range in surface: 7.100 miles with 14 kn
- range in deep: 80 miles with 4 kn
Armamento:
- 4 bow torpedo tubes 6 torpedos (533 mm)
- 2 stern torpedo tubes, 4 torpedos (533 mm)
- 1 deck gun 102/35 mm (150 rounds)
- 2 single flak guns 13.2 (6000 rounds)
crew: 49 men
max deep: 100 m
for the blue print look this site: http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php?showtopic=25775

[ArditoCorsaro]

I HAD THINK TO DO ALSO SOME SIGNLE MISSION IN SPANISH CIVIL WAR. IF ANYONE CAN HELP OUR TEAM TO DO, IT'S WELCOME. I'M TRY TO LEARN TO USE THE MISSION EDITOR.
LIKE THE MISSION OF REGIO SOMMERGIBILE TORRICELLI (ROYAL SUBMARINE TORRICELLI), OUT CARTAGENA WHEN HAVE SINK THE CRUISER MIGUEL DE CERVANTES. OR THE MISSION OF THE SUBMARINE IRIDE WHEN HAVE TRY TO TORPEDO A BRITISH DESTROYER IN PATROL OUT SPANISH WATERS.
ops, sorry if i have write big. :)
About the mod, you guys can be sure that it will not dead. one of the first "total mod" of silent hunter, was an italian mod. for sh 2, "regia marina alfa tau". Was really good, but it's too old. So it's duty of my team do a new italian mod.
For begin, we have think to do an italian ocean going sub for u boot missions, (like i told, there was italian sub in operation monsun).
And later develop from that, all the rest.
For that i'm trying to do a ocean going sub, but i need someone that know how do a 3d model, for help me. me and oliver are trying to learn how use 3d programs, but it's not easy for beginners.
For the interiors of subs, i think we must use american fleet boat interiors. are much similar. later they will be modified a little (gauges, and other) for give a more "italian look", but for begin can go good a simple american interiors. american fleet boat have conning towers (before refits) very very much similar to italian subs. and also some hull (like the porpoise-mameli) it's similar. for that i've ask if we can modify the porpoise.
And we need a VII C. (like i just told to Jhapprich, in 42-43 doenitz ask some italian ocean going sub for the kriegsmarine, for use like transport sub, because our sub was much large. and like payback he give some 7-c u boot. so we need a 7c, with an italian skin (i can do that without problems) and italian uniforms and voice mod (there is a italian voice mod called "that's amore".) ofc.

[Cybermat47]

Here's a screenshot of the captain's office: http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/429320160979389582/E9411EA913AC5B1F3A23F878A25388288EBC94FC/

I haven't been able to do much work recently, thanks to school, but once all my assessments have been done, I'll be able to work on it until the next lot of assessments come along.

[ArditoCorsaro]

Very Good again cybermat! :)
Thank you!

[cloadmcally]

gran bel lavoro gente! :D
very nice job folkes, if you need any help at any level, I'm here!
I was thinking, are you planning on making italian voices?
Maybe if you like that Idea I could do something about it ;)
cheers
cload:salute:

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

Wow, that's a good start :up:
for the modders, these are some images of the sub weapons:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/it/9/95/Breda_mod.31.jpg
13.2 mm flak gun;
http://www.anb-online.it/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/2420.jpg
100/47 deck gun;
http://www.anb-online.it/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/2381.jpg
102/35 deck gun;
http://www.anb-online.it/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/2484.jpg
100/43 deck gun;
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/it/thumb/1/19/76-40_R.M._MDICAT.JPG/220px-76-40_R.M._MDICAT.JPG
76/30 deck gun.

[cloadmcally]

who are the persons wich are working in the project at the moment?:hmmm:
any way great job with the desk room:yeah:

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

now, we have Ardito that is making the uniforms and the sub texturers and Cybermat is making the capiain room and the manometers and probably Jhapprich will make some subs.

[cloadmcally]

perfect, good luck on the project guys:up:

[jhapprich]

sorry, i will not make subs for you. who told you that afterall?!? Ardito asked me to help making AI submarines and converting an EXISTING model for game usage, but some time later i understood he wanted me to make some boats from scratch. i do not have time for this. you have to learn how to do 3d models (as i had to...)

[ArditoCorsaro]

yes japprich, i think that's mean kapitain oliver :D i've just told to him, that later we must convert ai subs that even you can do. (that's i have in mind. ofc if you can, no problem :) ). Indeed to that, there is a italian ai sub in sh4. but i must ask permission. (and even must ask to they also for modify a little, for do more historical accurate) if they give me permission, i have think to give this model to you, for modify just a little the hull if you want to.

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

Sorry if I spoke out of turn :oops:

[cloadmcally]

Well, Hello there folkes :D
I'm happy to announce that i'll be taking part into the Project, i'll be the sonar man :har: , the guy wich deals with all the sounds in the mod to clear it out.
I am currently working on re-doing the voices of the crew and translating them to italian, at a better quality than the one presented in the mod that's amore, i'll upload just a couple of sounds tomorrow, so you guys can have a listen to 'em.
Happy hunting boys

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

Thancks for the help cloadmcally. :up:

[sidslotm]

Hi

Do you have a playable boat yet. I know the 600 is available, but it will need to be made player usable.

Interesting project.

Sid

[ArditoCorsaro]

Thank you sid.
The 600 it's avaiable but i'm trying to find a tutorial for make ai subs playable.
After that, we need in future (if we find a 3d modeler, meanwhile we are trying to learn) a ocean going sub (the 600 it's coastal medium size sub. employed in red sea and mediterranean) for u boot missions. But the 600 it's a good start.

[jhapprich]

Where can i get the files for the class 600 sub?

[ArditoCorsaro]

There are 2 600: one it's in we dive at dawn mod. it's by keltos i think. (kapitain oliver know better than me about the 600 maker).
I've ask permission to keltos, and i'm waiting answear.
Another 600 it's in sh3, playable, in gwx multiplayer expansion. (also here we must ask to makers for it).
I have the 600 for sh4, of keltos if you want give a look.
And i have also the 600 of grey wolves.
p.s.
but i've read just now on we dive at dawn topic, that keltos 600 it's "workable".

[jhapprich]

Alright maybe you could make a .zip archieve and send it to may email Account?

[ArditoCorsaro]

ofc. i have we dive at dawn mod, and 600 class sub, it's a "sub mod", or "add on", so i have in a zip pack. on i send to you.

[ArditoCorsaro]

send. I've send both the "mediterranean campaign" (sub campaign) where there is the main version of the adua, and the "add on" 1.1 where there is some fix for the position of gun i think.

[jhapprich]

Alright maybe you could make a .zip archieve and send it to may email Account?

[ArditoCorsaro]

I've send to your account. haven't you received?

[sidslotm]

Thank you sid.
The 600 it's avaiable but i'm trying to find a tutorial for make ai subs playable.
After that, we need in future (if we find a 3d modeler, meanwhile we are trying to learn) a ocean going sub (the 600 it's coastal medium size sub. employed in red sea and mediterranean) for u boot missions. But the 600 it's a good start.

As I see it, getting a boat afloat is priority one. Keltos wrote a tutorial on this I'm seem to remember. I checked my hard drives looking for it, but no luck as yet.

I suppose you could use a type VIIc to get you going.

I working on Meditarranian objectives right now, strange.

Sid

[ArditoCorsaro]

You're right sid.
Now i tell you a thing: in 1943, doenitz need some transport sub for send to far east.
Italian ocean going sub (based in bordeaux, france) was much big than u boots in size, and doenitz ask 10 italian fleet boat (becoming too old for patrol in atlantic, but good for transport missions.) and give 10 7c u boot to regia marina.
(the veterans crew of betasom (bordeaux), go to danzig and began to train on these 7c. they was ready for go in patrol but the armistice have block all. and the majority of the crew at the end, go to fight with X° flotilla mas, on midget subs in mediterranean, or in "marines" infantry.).
So regia marina had for a period some 7c. (And for example, platino sub class, of 600 series, was much similar to a 7c. but not only. also the tritone class, was much similar.).
So we need also a 7c. you're right.
p.s. Thank you!

[cloadmcally]

Hello everyone, :salute:
as promised here are a couple of sound samples that'll be in the final version of the mod. although, these sounds are very early WIP and even if i'm about a third of the way through the whole speech folder (I have many other files not quite yet ready but done) they are just at the beginning an can be modified with suggestions from the people!
Also the telegraph sounds are beeing adjusted with the telgraph set noise but that isn't yet in these files.
expect updates to this online folder of google drive soon!
cheers,
Cloadmcally

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8Wr8t5VBORyflE3V0tfbE1kbTN4djZ5eER XYUJYR1BwMVR5SUZGNmFSSFItc095WlgwS28&usp=sharing

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

WOW!!!!
:Kaleun_Applaud:

[ArditoCorsaro]

Very well! So we have a sound! :)

[cloadmcally]

yes, very much still WIP dough.
tomorrow I'll probably upload some other sounds too, especially the hydrophone contacts, as you saw i changed my files again even today!
nice evening everyone :)

[sidslotm]

I finally found the tutorial by Peabody on how to include a new ship or boat into sh4. But it's hard going, if get the Adua600 launched from La Spezia I'll let you know. Need a list of Italian bases 1940.

Getting a type VIIc launched is ok.

Sid

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

These are all informations about the campaign.
Campaign operation:
MEDITERRANEAN SEA (from june 10th 1940 to sept. 8th 1943
WEST MEDITERRANEAN SEA
I GRUPSOM (subs assigned per class: Marcello/ Glauco/ 600 serie Perla/ Argo,600 serie Adua/ Micca/ Foca/ H.
home port: La Spezia
II GRUPSOM (subs assigned per class: MARCELLO/MARCONI/TRITONE (from april 1943)
home port: Neaples
III GRUPSOM (subs assigned per class: Pisani (until jan. 1942)/ 600 serie Adua.
home port: Messina
VII GRUPSOM (subs assigned per class: 600 serie Adua/600 serie Argonauta/ 600 serie Perla/600 serie Platino (from nov. 1941)/ Tritone (from oct 1942).
home port: Cagliari
VIII GRUPSOM (sub assigned per class: Bandiera (until april 1942)/ 600 serie Platino (from nov. 1941).
home port: Trapani (this group operated in central mediterranean sea too).
CENTRAL MEDITERRANEAN SEA
X GRUPSOM (sub assigned per class: Mameli/Bragadin.
home port: Augusta.
IV GRUPSOM (sub assigned per class: Luizzi, Settembrini, 600 serie Argonauta, 600 serie Adua/600 serie Perla/600 serie Sirena/ Foca/Bragadin/ Ammiragli/ squalo (from march 1941) /Tritone (from june 1943).
Home port: Taranto (this group operated in west med. too)
VI GRUPSOM (sub assigned per class: 600 serie Argonauta/600 serie Sirena.
home port: Tobruk (this group stopped its activity on late september 1942); this group operated in east mediterranean too.
EAST MEDITERRANEAN SEA
IX GRUPSOM (sub assigned per class: Brin/Balilla (until feb. 1942)/ 600 serie Sirena/ squalo (from march 1941).
home port: Brindisi
V GRUPSOM ( sub assigned per class:Squalo (until march 1941)/ Archimede, 600 serie Perla/ 600 serie Adua/ Foca/ 600 serie Sirena.
home port: Leros (dodecanese)
ATLANTIC OCEAN (from august 30th 1940 to sept. 8th 1943
XI GRUPSOM (sub assigned per class: Calvi/ Marconi/ Luizzi/Marcello/Argo/ Glauco/Brin/(from may 1941: Archimede/600 serie Perla/Ammiragli (from oct 1942).
home port: bordeaux (BETASOM)
RED SEA (from june 10th 1940 to march 1st 1941
GRUPSOM A.O.I.(sub assigned per class: Brin/Archimede/ 600 serie Perla.
home port: Massawa
SCHOOL GOUPS
XII SCHOOL_GROUP(from april 30th 1941 to sept. 1943)
(sub assigned per class: Bajamonti, ex yugoslavian Smeli (from 1941), Pisani (from 1942), Balilla and Bandiera ( from april 1942)
home port: Pola
NEW CONSTRUCTIONS
Training missions for the submarines built during the war (600 serie Platino (1941) and Tritone (1942)
home port: La Spezia
These are all submarines' groups with all bases of the italian submarines

[sidslotm]

Ok thanks for that, I can add new bases no problem, but they will be under the German flag for now. Type 7c now launched from La Spezia pending new bases.

The Adua is not seaworthy right now, this is proving tricky, I may have restart this one, I'll let you know. Right now I'm keeping development stock as not to confuse myself, additional ships can be added later. Getting the Adua playable is highest priority. Any help here would be welcome.

Regards, Sid.

[ArditoCorsaro]

The regia marina have for some period some 7c. (middle war. when the subs began to miss too).
And the platino class of the 600 series, was much similar to a type 7.
very much.

[ArditoCorsaro]

p.s. for italian subs, it's better use american fleet boat interiors.
(italian sub was much large inside than u boots. so, for the coastal medium size 600 sub we can use s boat interiors. and for the ocean going medium and large size we can use the others.).

[cloadmcally]

I agree, but i hope we use this solution only for the beta, I am now learning a lot about 3d modelling, and once i'm done with the sound (about 40% through at the moment) I would be happy to remap the interior of our subs
(I'll pm you Ardito later for more details)

[sidslotm]

p.s. for italian subs, it's better use american fleet boat interiors.
(italian sub was much large inside than u boots. so, for the coastal medium size 600 sub we can use s boat interiors. and for the ocean going medium and large size we can use the others.).

Interesting, I will look into this.

My problem is, I'm not very strong in this area. I have had one go already and it didn't work, I will have another go this week.

Right I've moved across to campaign layers for the Med theatre of operations. I have so far kept everything stock as to aliminate as many possibilities of errors.

Updated patches can be added once a working model is up and sailing.

Good hunting Sid

New boats would be brilliant.

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

BLACK SEA (July 5th 1941- august 30th 1943)
GRUPPO SOMM MAR NERO: submarines per class: CB class
IV sqadriglia MAS: MAS 500/
home port: Yalta or Costanta.
WEST MED.
I squadriglia MAS: MAS type 500/MS torpedo boat (ex yugoslavian topedo boat or ex Schnellboot type S-100) from april 1941
hime port: La Spezia
CENTRAL and EAST MED
III squadriglia MAS: MAS type 500/ MS torpedo boat ( (ex yugoslavian topedo boat or ex Schnellboot type S-100) from april 1941
home port: Taranto
Gruppo F.T.A: auxiliary cruiser RAMB III
home base: Bengazi/Taranto
RED SEA (june 10th 1940- february 22th 1941)
Gruppo F.T.A. A.O.I.: auxiliari cruiser RAMB II
INDIAN OCEAN (february 22th 1941-sepember 8th 1943
home port: Kobe (from march 21th 1941 to december 1st 1941)/Batavia (december 1st 1941-september 8th 1943)
submarine warfare after september 8th 1943
INDIAN OCEAN (september 10th 1943-march 20th 1945)
UIT SOMGRUP (submarines per class: Marconi/Marcello.
home port: Bordeaux (sept. 10th 1943)/ Singapore ( dec. 1943)
For an eventually second patch for the mod, I thought tha we can use The MAS TB, the german and yugoslavian schnellboote and the Auxiliary cruisers RAMB class.

[ArditoCorsaro]

Cybermat it's doing the depth gauges, and other for "italianize" interiors. like have do the russians in soviet waters. (for the beta. later have give a russian look to a type ix interiors. it's very much hard redoing completely interiors.).

[sidslotm]

Hi

I've completed lots of Mediterranean campaign objectives but on running found them very boring. I decided to start again so I deleted them and made a start on a some ideas I have. Got the first one up and running this morning. :yeah: I'm going to try a expand this tomorrow and see if we cannot create more tension in the game play.

Good hunting. Sid

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

One thing sid, during the war (especially from the end of 1941)the italian submarines made a lot of spy missions on enemy harbors end transporting of material and spies.
(from June 10th 1940 to June 25th 1940 It subs were against France fleet,
from October 28th 1940 to April 23th 1941 it subs were against the Hellenic fleet
And from 6th to 17th April 1941 it subs were against Yugoslavian fleet) I hope that you will make some missions near that territories in that period.

[sidslotm]

Yes I totally agree with you Kapitain Oliver, I just purchased some info on the Med campaign and there lots more to think about than I first thought. Right now I have a working campaign from 2 ports with 3 missions that still need a bit of work. One is a spy mission :yeah::yeah: I'll do a bit more then post it too you to evaluate, pm me you email and I'll try to get it off next week.

Sid.

[sidslotm]

Hi

A few updates. A different type VIIc together is being used, it has a better interior and paint job, also a open hatch.

Launching from Brindisi now works. A new logo for the start using the text from this campaign heading. Still can't get Bordeaux objectives to start, I'm a little perplexed about this.

How you all doing.

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

That good news :up:
But, shame that bordeaux doesn't work; however good hunting captain :salute:

[sidslotm]

That good news :up:
But, shame that bordeaux doesn't work; however good hunting captain :salute:

Bordeaux is working now as are all bases.

Sid

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

Sid, I have some italian, yugoslavian, french and british ships for the mod; would you want them for add them in the campaign?

[sidslotm]

Sid, I have some italian, yugoslavian, french and british ships for the mod; would you want them for add them in the campaign?

V1.10 is more or less ready for testing, I'll send it as soon as I can.

I have added some Italian ships to place in the harbours and create local Mediterranian shipping traffic, but missing textures is now the issue.

I would say we will need more British warships, after all they are ones we will have to sink.

Sid

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

yes, this sounds good :up:

[cloadmcally]

And I believe that we would need some more battleships and/or destroyers docked in the harbours

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

sid, it is possible to change the name of the mod from "Regia Marina" to "Rapidi ed Invisibili" please?
An other thing, is arrived the Buhring's map?

[sidslotm]

sid, it is possible to change the name of the mod from "Regia Marina" to "Rapidi ed Invisibili" please?
An other thing, is arrived the Buhring's map?

Already done, it looks a lot better.

I will post you the update tomorrow. I'm still having problems with the patrol objectives and I can't find the reason.

[Rockin Robbins]

You know, it seems to me that this mod also should be stickied!

[cloadmcally]

It would be an honour and a pleasure for all of us :salute:

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

You know, it seems to me that this mod also should be stickied!
never feel right words :salute:

[ArditoCorsaro]

Cybermat have send to me his work. On Room, and other. but i can't upload. too big -.- i must send to you on mail guys. its' very very nice. need only some modifications. (few things)

[ArditoCorsaro]

tAbout the Adua, it will need some modification in future. to the 3d models. it's not very much realistic. if you guys go on sh2, on the mod "regia marina alfa tau", there are many 600 class sub. well, they are made very nice.
The adua of sh4, it's not very much realistic. so in future, we need to do some adjustment

[sidslotm]

A glitch with the type VIIc NNS UBoat.sim file I suspect. Depth holding qualities are not good.

Any ideas please.

I may have found a problem!

Flotillas.upc file will need amending, the first four objectives are wrong, change the line ObjectiveCode, "Patrol Mediterranian" to "Mediterranian" in the first four Objectives. The ObjectiveCode in Flotillas.upc must be the same as AllMatch in PatrolObjectives.cfg. Both these files are found in Data/UPCDataGE/UPCCampaignData.

Backup always Sid

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

Thanks sid :up:

[sidslotm]

Hi

I'm not altogether sure, but the steam version of SH4 may have issues with some mods.

Sid

[ArditoCorsaro]

Do you have a steam version sid? (me no.)

[sidslotm]

No I have a cd version with the UBoat addon.
That's why I struggle to understand your crashing.

I suggest returning to v1 and gradually transfering the files from v1.11 across until you find the problem file. I did notice that .sim file in submarines type 7c was different, but it all works here.

I had a break through on mission building this week that works very well.

Sid.

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

That sounds good :up

[flieslikeabrick]

Hey guys, i'm interested in the Italian submarine campaign, how is development going? Is there anything I can do to help?

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

Now we have a modder that is making the capitan office and an italian sub's interior and the it uniforms; an other that is making the campaign and an other that is making the italian sounds for the sub.
And, Sure, that you can help us :up:
tell us what you can do :salute:

[flieslikeabrick]

Now we have a modder that is making the capitan office and an italian sub's interior and the it uniforms; an other that is making the campaign and an other that is making the italian sounds for the sub.
And, Sure, that you can help us :up:
tell us what you can do :salute:

I have absolutely no artistic skills, and since you already have someone working on the campaign i'm not sure what else is needed. I can always try to break the game using the mod(I think this is called testing) when needed.

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

Ok :up:
If you want to help us in the campaign talk Sidstotm and if you want, can you help me with historical informations about French/Vichy French/Free French navies operations during ww2 in Atlantic Ocean and Med. Sea please? :D
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An important information for all people that saw this thread: Please vote this thread and write your opinions about the mod and please help us please: we need some modders that help us in the making of some ships or subs models or some that help me with historical informations about med campaign/red campaign/atlantic campaign and black campaign (1940-1943) or some that help sidslotm in the making of the campaign and single missions/patrols or cibermat47 in the making of the captain office or italian sub interiors and menus.
PLEASE HELP US
sorry for my bad english

[flieslikeabrick]

Ok :up:
If you want to help us in the campaign talk Sidstotm and if you want, can you help me with historical informations about French/Vichy French/Free French navies operations during ww2 in Atlantic Ocean and Med. Sea please? :D
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An important information for all people that saw this thread: Please vote this thread and write your opinions about the mod and please help us please: we need some modders that help us in the making of some ships or subs models or some that help me with historical informations about med campaign/red campaign/atlantic campaign and black campaign (1940-1943) or some that help sidslotm in the making of the campaign and single missions/patrols or cibermat47 in the making of the captain office or italian sub interiors and menus.
PLEASE HELP US
sorry for my bad english

Sure, I can help edit files for the campaign and get info on french naval operations(I guess most of this will be written in french and hey, I speak french) EDIT: I'm going to look at the starting operations(June 1940) when I get home tonight.

I'll PM Sidslotm and ask him what he needs help with.

[flieslikeabrick]

Ok, I have found some bits of information on the opening moves of the french navies on the mediterranean and of vichy naval actions through the war, i'll start to compile it and we'll be able to map the french navy's positions and actions on the theatre in a few weeks time.

EDIT AGAIN: Can someone send me both V1.0 and V1.11?

[cloadmcally]

just pm me i'll send them over to you :salute:

[sidslotm]

Hi all, had a bug in my stomach that laid me up a while. But ok now :rotfl2:

I have found the ctd problem, I'm going to try a correct it soon. I have now gone back to v1.0 , which works and start over.

If anyone is making patrol objectives, I have an new way of building the which can be shared, pm me and I can send you some files.

I got the Vittorio afloat this week, quite exciting. Need a cruiser now. The Vittorio needs a new paint job so match or look similar to the Soldarti. The Vittorio had camouflage paint job during ww2.

All the best Sid.

[flieslikeabrick]

Hi all, had a bug in my stomach that laid me up a while. But ok now :rotfl2:

I have found the ctd problem, I'm going to try a correct it soon. I have now gone back to v1.0 , which works and start over.

If anyone is making patrol objectives, I have an new way of building the which can be shared, pm me and I can send you some files.

I got the Vittorio afloat this week, quite exciting. Need a cruiser now. The Vittorio needs a new paint job so match or look similar to the Soldarti. The Vittorio had camouflage paint job during ww2.

All the best Sid.

Good to know you are ok.

I have fiddled with the files for a bit and could not get the V1.11 type VIIc to work, are you planning on using a different one or have you found the problem?

By the way, I have collected some information on French naval movements on the mediterranean and atlantic(relevant for BETASOM) and have a fun fact: I haven't been able to find an engagement between French ships and Italian submarines. Still, I'm going to note down any fleet movements that may be interesting.

[Cybermat47]

New career start screen :yeah:

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/398927845030263331/7065D72FFA7D0A6B8A8E6B658A8AFF8C8F3FFD13/

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

WOW!!!! this work is very beautiful :yeah: (I saw you used the paintings that I sent to you some times ago :D )
But can you change some things ? (can you change oberlaitant zur see in capitano di vascello- and can you add a "good hunt"after the message and can you change REGIA MARINA in Comando Supremo della Regia Marina, please)

[Cybermat47]

I'll get on it ASAP :salute:

[cloadmcally]

Very nice job cybermat! Really enjoy your work :D

[ArditoCorsaro]

Great Job cybermat! :D

[Cybermat47]

Italian player ranks inplemented, just need to find some more history about the Italian submarines to flesh out the descriptions.

I'm having some difficulty with the crew's ranks - would somebody be able to find a complete list of Regia Marina ranks with Kriegsmarine equivalents?

Also, what Italian sub types are we going to include? If I know this, I should be able to change the 'U-187' etc. to appropriate Italian sub names.

[BlockadeRunner]

Hi CyberMatt,

here is a great reference to use. Should have everything you need:

http://regiamarina.net/detail_text.asp?nid=138&lid=1

Let me know if you need anything, I am an Italian military historian

[cloadmcally]

hi cybermat, we haven't decided yet, we'll have for the adua for sure, and most of the similar classes.
Just PM Oliver and he'll give you the details.
as for the ranks I'll provide what I can ASAP

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

Also, what Italian sub types are we going to include? If I know this, I should be able to change the 'U-187' etc. to appropriate Italian sub names.
these are the name of all italian subs:
ADUA 600 CLASS: adua-axum-aradam-alagi-scirè-gondar-nighelli-asciani-durbo-tembien-lafolè-beilul-dagabur-dessie-ubi scebeli-uarshiek.
ARGONAUTA 600CLASS:argonauta-fisalia-jalea-medusa-serpente-salpa-jantina;
PISANI CLASS:vettor pisani-des geneys-marcantonio colonna-giovanti bausan;
Brin class:brin-galvani-guglielmotti-archimede-torricelli;
H class:H-1/H-8/H-6/H-4/H-2;
BALILLA CLASS:balilla-antonio scesa-domenico millelire-enrico toti;
TRITONE CLASS:tritone-grongo-flutto-marea-vortice-nautilo-spalide-gorgo-murena;
AMMIRAGLI CLASS:amm. saint bon-amm. cagni-amm. millo- amm. caracciolo;
BRAGADIN CLASS: marcantonio bragadin-filippo corridoni;
LUIZZI CLASS:console generale luizzi;capitano tarantini;reginaldo giuliani;alpino bagnolini;
CB CLASS: from CB-1 to CB-26;
BAJAMONTI CLASS (EX JUGOSLAVIAN SMELI):antonio bajamonti-francesco rismondo
MARCONI CLASS:guglielmo marconi-leonado da vinci-luigi torelli-michele bianchi-alessandro malaspina-maggiore baracca;
MARCELLO CLASS:marcello-dandolo-provana-barbarigo-moncenigo-nani-emo-morosini-comandante cappellini-comandante faà di bruno;
FOCA CLASS:foca-zoea-atropo;
PERLA 600CLASS:perla-gemma-berillo-diaspro-turchese-corallo-ambra-onice-malachite-iride;
MICCA CLASS: only one submarine (micca);
SIRENA 600CLASS:sirena-naiade-nereide-anfitrite-galatea-ondina-diamante-smeraldo-rubino-topazio-ametista-zaffiro;
ARCHIMEDE CLASS:galileo galilei-galileo ferraris;
ARGO CLASS:argo-valella;
SETTEMBRINI CLASS:luigi settembrini- ruggero settimo;
SQUALO CLASS:squalo-narvalo-delfino-tricheco;
BANDIERA CLASS:fratelli bandiera-luciano manara-santorre santarosa-ciro menotti;
GLAUCO CLASS:glauco-otaria;
PLATINO 600CLASS:platino-cobalto-nichelio-asteria-giada-granito-porfido-avorio-alabastro-bronzo-volframio-argento;
MAMELI CLASS:goffredo mameli-tito speri-pier capponi-giovanti da procida.

[sidslotm]

How's it all going, been a bit quiet💤 In here.

[Cybermat47]

How's it all going, been a bit quiet💤 In here.

I've done most of my assigned work, I just need to finish the crew names. I'll also be improving some of the modified textures.

I'd say that everyone else is busy with making the new subs.

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

in reality I can't make sub models, because I do not know how to use wings3d and/or blender and there aren't any modders that want or can help us.
Only the_frog has offered to help us, but he need the original submarines plans.
I'm searching for him that plans.
sorry for my bad english :oops:

[sidslotm]

Sounds good, I recon the hardest thing is creating new boats and ships. I modded the Tclass boat in WDAD to enable rear firing torpedoes, it works but is very difficult I have to say. All I actually did was reverse the forward firing torps and replace them back to front, but at least it works.

It may prove easier to manipulate the messes or copy and paste parts from one boat to another rather than attempt a new vessel.

All the best. Sid

[cloadmcally]

Hump. Did anyone say bump? I didn't that' s for sure :arrgh!: :har:
Anyyyway, I' ve got some Good news, I' m almost done with the sound for the mod, just need to implement the sounds in The game.
And I'm almost ready to take on 3d modelling.
I did a lot of excercises in order to learn blender so now I'm happy to start modelling some of the subs.
I'll update ASAP

[Rockin Robbins]

Good deal, cloadmcally! I'd love to see this mod completed!

[ArditoCorsaro]

verywell!

[cloadmcally]

As promised, here is a sneak peak of my work
http://i.imgur.com/2gCnXM8h.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cRwonuuh.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/4LlnrY2h.jpg
It' s just a preview of the conning tower of our Mameli Class Submarine, I' m working on the hull as well but I have quite a few problems with it..
Let me know what you think and where I did wrong.
I' ve just picked up blender so, any advice from you more experienced modders would be very helpful.
Cheers, Cload

[ArditoCorsaro]

WOW!!!!Verywell!:D:D:D

[keltos01]

Nice ! :up:

I have the Class 600 files somewhere.. ;) The japanese had obtained one at the end of the war after the surrender of Italy along with ? 2 german subs, so I originally intended to use it in our IJN campaign..

K

[cloadmcally]

good, if you find theme please send them to me :)

[keltos01]

pm me where to upload them

I have to check but that one isn't playable (yet) I might add it to the Jyunsen mod too

K

[cloadmcally]

Hi Keltos, sorry for the late response but I had a very busy day, you can upload the adua on google drive if you wish, well, actually , any hosting site'll do.
Cheers, Cload :)
(P.S. It says that you ran out of space for the PMs, you might want to look into that :O: )

[keltos01]

right.. inbox is full :D

http://s32.postimg.org/wpq8zykb9/600turm.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/403d3bgb5/full/)
hebergeur d images (http://postimage.org/index.php?lang=french)

http://s32.postimg.org/lq94v6pud/600.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/sgpm4md01/full/)
hebergeur d images (http://postimage.org/index.php?lang=french)

but.. I am working on cloning a sub (german side) so that we would eventually have a playable Adua Class.. it's gonna take a few days cause I don't have that much free time but we'll get there..

model was given/lent to me from the gwx 3.0 to use in the IJN campaign

K

[cloadmcally]

unfortunately, it's the model we already have, but we are not really sure either to convert it or just do a brand new one, thank you anyways

[keltos01]

I will make it playable if only to add it to the Jyunsen B mod.. you can always then use my files..

K

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

The 600 Adua class sub from Keltos01. It's far from finished, but now it's playable
http://s32.postimg.org/v11ygwzfp/20160503_203059.jpg

[keltos01]

:D:D
I would need six info on the reggia Marina torpedoes used during wwii so as to make an Italian torpedoes mod too
Regards

K

[cloadmcally]

Sure :)
I'm currently not at home but we'll provide 'em as soon as possibile :)

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

These are the weapons of the italian submarines of ww2:
TORPEDOES:
type 533mm /speed:50 kn /range: 4000 mt. (for submarines);
type 450mm M/speed: 42kn/ range:3000 mt (for submarines and MAS);
type 450mm A/ speed: 35kn/ range: 3000mt (for submarines and MAS);
type 24V/24M (ex french/yugoslavian torpedos)/ speed: 45kn/ range: 4000mt (for subamrines and MS torpedo boat) from 1941;
type G7e (ex german) from 1942.
DECK GUNS:
type 76/30 mm (100 rounds) (only for the H class submarine);
type 102/35 mm (150 rounds) old type;
type 120/45 mm (200 rounds) old type;
type 100/43 mm (230 round) new type;
type 100/47 mm (650 round) new type.
FLAK GUNS:
type 13,2 mm single (3200 rounds);
type 13,2 mm double (6400 round).
Keltos these are all information about Italian submarines weapons :salute:

[keltos01]

Thanks!
So they have the smaller ones in common with the French... interessante...
I should be able to get them from my surcouf mod ;)

K

[cloadmcally]

Good :D

[keltos01]

http://s20.postimg.org/wwrpff6xp/20160508_100123.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/eh78i0st5/full/)
image gratuite (http://postimage.org/index.php?lang=french)

http://s20.postimg.org/ev8khmcwt/20160508_100148.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/6cz4da6e1/full/)
photo libre (http://postimage.org/index.php?lang=french)

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

Wow :up:
Keltos, would you want any Adua's paint scheme?
And , if you can, can you make the 1940 conning tower version of the aqua class?
however these are the adua and in general all 600 classes' paint schemes:
this is the 1940 version:
http://www.tauromodel.it/immagini/Modelli/FotoD001.jpg
these are the version used from the end of 1941:
http://oi50.tinypic.com/2iup00l.jpg
http://www.tauromodel.it/immagini/Foto/D003D.gif
http://www.tauromodel.it/immagini/Foto/D015C.jpg
http://www.tauromodel.it/immagini/Foto/D003C.gif
the version that the sub already from the GWX mod
(and the most simple) http://www.anvo.it/entra_in_anvo/flotta/marina_militare/sommergibili/Tritone/Tritone_IMG/Sommergibile%20Tritone%2007.jpg

[ArditoCorsaro]

Oliver have you tried it? i saw no sailors onboard. maybe it's mine sh problem i dont know.

[keltos01]

The interior is a typ ix though maybe we should use a type II interior ftm?

Does anyone know why printscreen doesnt work with sh4 and windows 7 ?

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

Cybermat has made the interior for our subs; ask to him for them

[keltos01]

http://s20.postimg.org/o8mxqykt9/torremacchie.png (http://postimage.org/)
hebergement image (http://postimage.org/index.php?lang=french)

http://s20.postimg.org/jo0rc113x/adua102_macchie.png (http://postimg.org/image/s6a7gd7mh/full/)
herbergeur d image (http://postimage.org/index.php?lang=french)

[keltos01]

http://s20.postimg.org/o8mxqykt9/torremacchie.png (http://postimage.org/)
hebergement image (http://postimage.org/index.php?lang=french)

http://s20.postimg.org/jo0rc113x/adua102_macchie.png (http://postimg.org/image/s6a7gd7mh/full/)
herbergeur d image (http://postimage.org/index.php?lang=french)

Design copied from the original design

http://i63.tinypic.com/2pyxp28.jpg

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

Wow, very interesting, you are doing an excellent work keltos :up:
But can you add an anchor on the model and can you move the bow dive planes on the waterline.
like this:
http://www.anb-online.it/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/06252.jpg
(however in this image there is the 1940 conning tower version)

[keltos01]

http://i63.tinypic.com/qsp7ag.jpg

[cloadmcally]

that looks very nice!
If I may suggest a thing the nose should be slightly higher (maybe it's just an impression)
Cheers cload

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

cload, how it's going with the Mameli class?

[keltos01]

New version 1.03.02

http://i68.tinypic.com/20uwbi1.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/16mffc.jpg

[cloadmcally]

a little bit stuck at the moment :D :haha:

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

Wow, the Adua is impressive :up:
So, when you will finish this class, you can make the other 600 (obviously if you want and can)

[ArditoCorsaro]

Oliver i suggested to keltos to do wooden deck. like most 600 class had.

[keltos01]

I might get it wrong and just do a wooden boat ! :rotfl2:

[keltos01]

latest version done :

fixed torpedo tubes position and animations, etc..

still need to do : figure out why the texture with the camo doesn't show on the tower (gotta remember where it get the texture from) and maybe do some custom italian weapons ?

K

[keltos01]

http://s33.postimg.org/lhjk1xsin/20160525_001459.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/veukv004b/full/)


http://s33.postimg.org/jztyw0fbz/20160524_231553.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/bubwxur2z/full/)


http://s33.postimg.org/d1qtgcrkv/20160524_192108.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/5yiy0qm57/full/)
hebergeur image (http://postimage.org/index.php?lang=french)

version 1.05 available for download now in the subsim's download section

don't dive too deep !

you've been warned ! :arrgh!:

keltos

[keltos01]

http://s33.postimg.org/vuri4lie7/20160525_122220.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/jsw4ag95n/full/)


Blueprint on ;)

[keltos01]

Download version 1.06 :

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=4954

[auricom]

good luck with the mod - looking forward to it!

[keltos01]

http://s33.postimg.org/5bkwrensf/20160601_164710.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/wyxm5i8yz/full/)
heberger image (http://postimage.org/index.php?lang=french)

I re uploaded the same version, now the explosive power of the italian torpedoes is accurate !

download :

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=4961

[keltos01]

download :

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=4962


don't forget to fill the fore external torpedo reserve !

we're nearly there !!! and bow, do these italian torpedoe not do much damage !

get some IJN ones asap !

keltos

[keltos01]

http://s33.postimg.org/p2nkh63xb/20160603_130413.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/xxoerospn/full/)
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FInally ! i fixed the fore outside torpedo loadout, She's not carrying Maiali here (though I intend to make them like I made the Kaiten for the IJN mod) but now she has a complete loadout.

The sub's specs are as they were in RL, not the range of course otherwise you'd need to tank all over the Pacific Theater !

She has two types of historically accurate Regia Marina W torpedoes, though keep in mind that they are a bit on the weak side !

Italian 13.2 mm mod 31 AA guns, a heavy 3x25 mm IJN gun is available to be mounted on the deck too, she starts with a 37 mm AA there.

So some is accurate, the extra (3 bow 1 stern) reserves torpedoes intended for the game play.

I would like some feedback, I know she's really slow to go to PD as of now..

download version 1.11:

[url]http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=4963 (http://postimage.org/index.php?lang=french)

in any case, ENJOY !!

Keltos

[cloadmcally]

Nice work keltos! :)

[keltos01]

thanks !


I also play it using a mod I never released as it was intended for our campaign :

Real I-boot :

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=4964

gives you natural sinking mechanics for a range of allied ships :o

I played tonight, just love those weak torpedoes ! I'm at rougly 40000 T in one mission :D

[keltos01]

Italian W anw W veloce torpedo types of WWII

range and explosive power historically accurate

add last :

download :
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=4966


Enjoy !

Keltos

[BlockadeRunner]

I'm really confused. Is this for silent hunter 3 or 4? It's listed as a silent hunter 4 mod, but in your description says its for Gray Wolves 3.0 (which I thought was a mod for SH3?), and is Mediterranean theater so it makes more sense. Is this for SH4 or 3?

[keltos01]

I'm really confused. Is this for silent hunter 3 or 4? It's listed as a silent hunter 4 mod, but in your description says its for Gray Wolves 3.0 (which I thought was a mod for SH3?), and is Mediterranean theater so it makes more sense. Is this for SH4 or 3?


Hi Blokcaderunner !

The mod is intended as it is for SH4 version 1.5 (with uboot add on) as it adds the Adua class sub for the Monsun boats.

It doesn't change the missions, it just adds a sub and its torpedoes.

Hope this helps

K

[keltos01]

http://s32.postimg.org/e7ufjz6ut/sh4_2016_06_07_18_22_36_84.png (http://postimage.org/)
new blueprint taken from http://www.betasom.it/forum/index.php?showtopic=31956

New italian torpedoes : changed the . sim and . zon again, so more accurate explosive power and range

download :

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=4971

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

Wow, you are doing an excellent work with this submarine keltos :up:
But, we have a basic med missions from sidstolm; If you want use them now, talk with cloadmeccally.
greetings :salute
An other thing, can you make the 1940 version of the sub?

[keltos01]

Wow, you are doing an excellent work with this submarine keltos :up:
But, we have a basic med missions from sidstolm; If you want use them now, talk with cloadmeccally.
greetings :salute
An other thing, can you make the 1940 version of the sub?

What is the 1940 version ? if it's just a different tower, that's easier but I am without 3ds atm...

k

[ArditoCorsaro]

conn tower closed. like in blueprints. in future, can you modify just a little the bow, for do it "a squalo"? like in the adua photos. curvy and just a lot chubby.is more realistic. if you can ofc.

[keltos01]

This is the beta for the coming mod

download :

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=4972


Doing a second tower is possible, I just need to get my 3ds back on, and easier than a whole sub

@ArditoCorsaro : send me the blueprints if you have good ones
@cloadmeccally :can you send me the mission and flotilla/campaign files for the med , please ?
@Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt : thanks and yes I'll try ! I always liked to have more subs in a mod ;)


regards


Keltos

[Ekaton]

I wonder, will you include Italian voices in the game? If you are than it's going to be immersive as hell!

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

I wonder, will you include Italian voices in the game? If you are than it's going to be immersive as hell!
There will be italian voices when the mod will complete.
An other thing, keltos can you clean the message folder please, I can't send to you an important message

[keltos01]

There will be italian voices when the mod will complete.
An other thing, keltos can you clean the message folder please, I can't send to you an important message

done ! :D

[cloadmcally]

Yes, i'm currently in the process of importing the voices in the game.
Cheers, Cload

[keltos01]

And I'm having trouble making a new deck gun:/\\!!:/\\!!

I'll get there.. I want it to be a new gun so people could chose between them.. the muzzle speed of the Italian 100mm gun is quite good

[keltos01]

Adds the RL 100mm deck gun to the Adua

Adua Gun mod version 1.3

download :

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=4982

[Mmssaarco]

keep up the good work!:up:

[Aktungbby]

Mmssaarco!:Kaleun_Salute:

[keltos01]

real I boat v 1.2

should give you realistic sinking mechanics, I just hacked and slashed a bit

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=4996

install last or try with adua and gun last

[Jimbuna]

Welcome to SubSim Mmssaarco :sunny::sunny:

[Lt. Sven Thomsen]

Allora, che succede? Is this mod dead in the water or...?

[keltos01]

chi va piano va sano e va lontano !

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

Allora, che succede? Is this mod dead in the water or...?
Salve amico, the mod is not dead, it is temporarily asleep.
When the big modders will finish their own work, we will ask them to help us in our work.
Be patients my friends :up:
PS: sorry for my bad english

[FurphyForum]

Hey Gents, yeah ok necro'd from the dead, but where are we really at with this mod, at a guess, I suspect it was buried at sea?:dead: and it seems a shame if that's the case.

[FurphyForum]

Anybody still around that was working on this to give an answer?

[frostedflaker]

I discovered this mod by chance because I've become obsessed with Beneith the Med (https://www.gmtgames.com/p-697-beneath-the-med.aspx), the solitaire sub game from the designer of The Hunters, The Hunted and Silent Victory. While I could always scratch those itches by playing SH 3,5 and 4 respectively, there's nothing that comes close to Beneath the Med. Who knew Italian submarines were so varied! And numerous! and carried out so many types of patrols!

Really really incredible stuff. I know you are probably waiting for the Dark Waters and FOTRSU teams to have time to pitch in, which I believe the Japanese mod may be too, but I just wanted to let you know you have an avid and passionate supporter in me.

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

Hello folks:
first of all, thanks for your support and for the questions (here and by PMs) about the projet. At this point, I think that Rapidi ed Invisibili is disbanded (hopefully just temporarily). We have much of the source material and many surface units (and with VonDos now modelling Regia Marina's units for SH3, probably even more of them, but we need the permission obviously). However we lack of a prfossional modder who can model for us the submarines (actually not all of them as we wrote in the first page, cause the max subs number in SH4 is hardcoded); many of them are not active anymore and others are busy with other projects.
So guys the only thing I can say now is the project is now in a sort of hibernation, but I'm confident that one day it will wake up again and will be finished. :up:

If there is someone here who want to help, you can contact me by PM.

Greetings. :Kaleun_Salute:

[VonDos]

We have much of the source material and many surface units (and with VonDos now modelling Regia Marina's units for SH3, probably even more of them, but we need the permission obviously).

If you want, try to ask permission to VonDos.
Despite the reputation of being a bad bad guy, i'm pretty sure he'll authorize you to use some of his mediocre models, with right credits...

Best regards,
Vd

:D

[Kapitain Oliver Leinkraunt]

If you want, try to ask permission to VonDos.
Despite the reputation of being a bad bad guy, i'm pretty sure he'll authorize you to use some of his mediocre models, with right credits...

Best regards,
Vd

:D

It would be an honour to have your ships in this mod, if you'll authorize me to use them :salute:
In reality I was about to ask you if you would want help me by modelling the submarines too :D
(obviously you'll be credited for everything :Kaleun_Salute: )

[VonDos]

It would be an honour to have your ships in this mod, if you'll authorize me to use them :salute:
In reality I was about to ask you if you would want help me by modelling the submarines too :D
(obviously you'll be credited for everything :Kaleun_Salute: )

Modelling submarines is a task too hard for me, i guess, and i've a lot of work again to do. But fell free to use every ship you want from my shipyard. As said, just credits are required :up:

Best regards,
Vd