New to SHIII

[THEBERBSTER]

I have just received the Encore version of SH3 that is updated to v1.4b and is Starforce free.
When installed will the game play automatically on Windows 7, or should I change the .exe to Windows XP Service Pack 2?
Also does it need to be run as an administrator?

[ReallyDedPoet]

Hi there :salute:

See this great thread:Here (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=212323)

Have fun with the old girl, she has lots of life in her yet :yep:

[Capt. Morgan]

On my Win7 box, SH3 plays fine in native mode (no compatibility mode required), and does not need to be run as administrator. Just do not install it in the Program Files directory as Win7 enforces special security policies for everything in that directory, which are problematical for SH3.

Oh, and "Welcome to SHIII, you will always find someone here to help you":up:

[Merc8ninE]

Hi there :salute:

See this great thread:Here (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=212323)

Have fun with the old girl, she has lots of life in her yet :yep:

That will be handy for me too. Thank you. :salute:

[THEBERBSTER]

With the Encore version of SH3 when I got the option to browse and change the default installation path it would not allow me to make my change and came up with an installation error.

I wanted D:\Games\Ubisoft\Silent HunterIII but it would only allow me to install in C:\Ubisoft\Program files (x86)\Ubisoft\Silent HunterIII

Luckily both my C and D drives are both SSD's

GWX v3.0 installed ok but I notice it installs an older version of JSGME.

Thanks for the welcome.

If the game is as good as the manual shows I can see why after all these years why it has such a cult following.

Peter

[ReallyDedPoet]

If the game is as good as the manual shows I can see why after all these years why it has such a cult following.

Peter

And has a ton of great mods :yep:

I'll get back to SH4 and 5 but with the new computer want to try some of the stuff I could not use before.

[HW3]

I wanted D:\Games\Ubisoft\Silent HunterIII but it would only allow me to install in C:\Ubisoft\Program files (x86)\Ubisoft\Silent HunterIII

Did you try installing as administrator, or just as user?

[THEBERBSTER]

I am an administrator, but I am not sure how I would be able to change the installation to make it an administrator installation.

The only opportunity you have to change the installation is when the default path is shown.

You are given the opportunity to browse and change the path.

Changing the path from the default path then shows a windows installation error.

It is only by accepting the default path that the installation completes successfully.

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi guys

Well I have taken your advice and gone for it and installed SH3 Commander and some of the GWX mods that came with it.

I have down loaded but not yet installed the GWX Cfg files for SH3 Commander easy installer.

This is because I was reading the SH3 Commander manual and it states “you must have run Silent Hunter III at least once in order to set up your Silent Hunter III data files.”

Does that mean I now need to disable the GWX mods?

While I am an experienced gamer on SH4 and SH5 I know nothing about SH3 apart from what I am reading in the game manuals.

Could someone explain to me what I need to do next please?

Also I would like to be able to get some practical experience using the tutorials that came with SH3 even though I will have SH3 Commander installed?

Can I do that?

Peter

[Pisces]

In Windows explorer looking at the contents of the DVD drive, if you right click on the Setup.exe executable you should see the option "Run as Administrator".

Even if your user account is part of the Administrator group, it may not always be able perform all actions without restrictions. Sometimes you need to tell the OS that you are "putting your administrative cap on" so to say, to do something. Or else it can still consider you as a normal user.

I remember having been in this situation where I was not allowed to specify an alternate install location (greyed out). But cannot remember how I resolved it. But I'm sure I did somehow. Best bet is it is the above way.

[Sailor Steve]

Well I have taken your advice and gone for it and installed SH3 Commander and some of the GWX mods that came with it.
I'm confused here. To the best of my knowledge Commander doesn't come with GWX or any other mods. It is a stand-alone program that works outside the game.

I have down loaded but not yet installed the GWX Cfg files for SH3 Commander easy installer.

This is because I was reading the SH3 Commander manual and it states “you must have run Silent Hunter III at least once in order to set up your Silent Hunter III data files.”
This is because Commander can't "see" an install that doesn't exist. If you've already run SH3 once then you should be good to go. The Cfg files can be installed to Commander at any time. They mainly add some extra ships to the the files so Commander can read them.

Does that mean I now need to disable the GWX mods?
No. Commander allows you to control different functions, but it does so from its own program, and other mods don't affect its operation. Likewise Commander doesn't affect any other mods except the few that are listed within its own pages, and they are all controlled through Commander by selecting a box to click.

Could someone explain to me what I need to do next please?
With Commander and the Cfg files intalled you should be good to go. Just launch the game through Commander and it will tell you what to do. Also, clicking the '?' on Commander's main page will bring up the User Guide, which will explain everything.

Also I would like to be able to get some practical experience using the tutorials that came with SH3 even though I will have SH3 Commander installed?

Can I do that?
Absolutely. Commander has no effect on the tutorials at all. GWX, on the other hand, does. The Flak lesson specifically is much harder. On the other hand you don't have to pass anything but the Navigation class. In stock SH3 you are awarded a little extra renown for passing each class, until it adds up to 1500. With GWX you get the full 1500 renown for passing any one class. The rest are just for your enjoyment and education.

None of this has anything to do with SH3 Commander. :sunny:

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi Steve

Thanks for your reply and sorry to confuse you.

I meant that I installed some of the mods from GWX.

I have now installed the GWX Cfg files for SH3 Commander

I have not run SH3 at all yet.

This was the instruction.

“you must have run Silent Hunter III at least once in order to set up your Silent Hunter III data files.”

As I have no data files.

Do I run the SH3.exe and not the Commander and start a new career to create these data files?

Peter

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi Pisces

I take your point, so you are saying change the SH3Autorun.exe to run as administrator from the dvd list.

Do you think that this change will now allow me to choose the install path without getting a windows installation error?

If you were in my position would you uninstall everything and start again?

Peter

[Pisces]

Hi Pisces

I take your point, so you are saying change the SH3Autorun.exe to run as administrator from the dvd list.

Do you think that this change will now allow me to choose the install path without getting a windows installation error?

If you were in my position would you uninstall everything and start again?

PeterYes, I would try to get the game installed in some other place than Program Files (whatever), before you get into a modded game. Better do it now before you are well invested into a campaign. I am not 100% that this is the solution. But can't hurt to try.

What exact windows installation error are you getting? Upto now I only understood that the option was greyed out for you. Please be precise in what you experience when installing the game.

Another quirk that I remember the Silent Hunter 3 installer suffering from is the pressence of a space in the folder name. Apparently the space in Program Files is no problem. But between "Silent" and "Hunter" was for me. Try concattenating those words.

[Sailor Steve]

Do I run the SH3.exe and not the Commander and start a new career to create these data files?
Just for fun I would try starting it with Commander right off the bat. If it doesn't work it will just say it couldn't find any files and refuse to run. If that happens it won't hurt anything and you can start it again directly from SH3. Or you can just run SH3 by itself and play a training scenario or a single mission, and you'll be good to go.

[THEBERBSTER]

Uninstalled all 3 items ok.

Ran ccleaner + registry cleaner and then rebooted.

When the dvd loaded I changed all the applications to run as administrators.

Installation process as follows.

Setup will install Silent Hunter III in the following folder.

To install to this folder click next.

To install to a different folder click Browse and select another folder.

Destination folder.

C:\Program (x86)\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter III

The error occurs immediately you press the Browse button.

Error message.

Install Driver Module has stopped working.

A problem caused the program to stop working correctly.

Install shield 1628 failed to complete installation.

So it looks like I have no choice in the matter than to re-install in the default destination.

Peter

[Pisces]

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Destination folder.

C:\Ubisoft\Program (x86)\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter III

The error occurs immediately you press the Browse button.And you did not have the posibility to edit the path manually? In some application installers you can edit the text by hand and not having to browse to a specific folder.

Well, if the path starts with the folder "Ubisoft" instead of "Program Files (x86)" then it's no problem anyway. (only now I notice this :oops: ) Windows only cares about the real C:\Program Files (x86) folders. I guess it is ok afterall

[THEBERBSTER]

Hi Pisces

My mistake typing error should be

C:\Program (x86)\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter III

I have amended my original post.

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[THEBERBSTER]

The Encore version will not let you make any changes to the path.

Will only install in the default installation.

When you click on the browse key you get an install error number.

As I have not run this Encore game yet I am now also wondering as Encore is a Canadian production whether it will recognise a QWERTY keyboard.

I have been reading old Subsim postings regarding the Dvd disc ESS632.

Dvd's that are Black and White are supposed to be SF free and version 1.4b

Dvd's that are Black and Silver have SF.

I have had a reply back from an Ebay seller who has a Black and White dvd
so have bought it and will delve in to its properties when it arrives.

[THEBERBSTER]

Just received my SH3 dvd today from an Ebay seller.

I sent questions through Ebay to about 8 sellers to make sure I got the right dvd.

As previously discussed on other posts and a big thank you for that valuable information stating that the Black Bottom and White Top is the later SF free and version v1.4

The File Version is 8.2.160.0

Product Version 1.4.0000

Date Modified 18/08/2006

Unlike the Encore version this will allow you to install anywhere.