Glorious Great Game - a PoN MP AAR

[HunterICX]

This is a Pride of Nations MP AAR with the following Glorious leaders

Oberon - Glorious Tommy of Great Britain
Raptor1 - Glorious Mustachio of France
Task Force - Glorious President of 'Murica
HunterICX - Glorious Hothead of Prussia
Betonov - Glorious Destroyer of Empires

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January 1850

The Silly road to Unification

Prussia in Jan 1850
http://i.imgur.com/9zjQk39.jpg?1http://i.imgur.com/vlXt16k.jpg?1

It's time to open up the possibility for talks to become a stronger nation within Europe to secure our interests and that of our allies.


First two candidates are Holstein and Sachsen, regarding Holstein we hope the Danes do not interfere.

http://i.imgur.com/3VOdumH.jpg?1

Another crucial thing important for our nation is to build a strong economy
and now that needs some work.

http://i.imgur.com/sltOIBe.jpg?1

[Oberon]

Glorious Great Game? Typical continentals, can't get anything right, it's just "The Great Game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Game)" you frivolous idiot, go back to school...oh wait, you're Prussia, you don't have any. :O:

http://www.friesian.com/history/britania.jpg

So, the Glorious British Empire, still basking in its glory after thoroughly defeating France in the Napoleonic war and subduing some rather excitable Indians in the North-West Frontier in the Second Anglo-Sikh war, has a lot on its plate to take in. Africa is quiet, but tensions are still high, India is rebellious but co-operative, and Burma, still smarting over the Treaty of Yandabo is looking for revenge...if it can somehow get the funds to finance it.

http://www.mcvuk.com/cimages/73aa549b69d5c0d84bff0f23b74121cb.jpg
According to google, the bad guy in Farcry4 is the king of Burma, make of that what you will...

The early days of January 1850 see not a great deal of business, the foundations for a new coal mine are lain in Birmingham, and the export of coal and tea to other countries have further regulations imposed upon them. The Prime Minister is heard to utter the words "matter of prime importance to the survival of the United Kingdom" prefacing the word 'tea'.
A natural expedition is sent into deepest darkest India, it takes with it a mobile tea set to spread tea and tiffin to the restless natives, whilst the expedition will probably never be seen again, but it is hoped that the tea will calm the natives down and civilised them, thus bringing them in line with the Empire.

http://i.imgur.com/kTh1zUF.jpg?1
Major-General Henry Godwin, commander of the Burma Frontier force, with a tenuous hold on Rangoon.

However, Indian and British newspapers alike carry word of naval movements from the Mediterranean, Pacific and Indian theatres, and the redeployment of the 1st Brigade of Royal Marines, a Royal Engineers Corps and Sappers and Miners Corps to Portsmouth. The government has not confirmed the possibility of war, but has refused to rule it out.

http://www.ozanne.co.uk/sites/default/files/pictures/hibernia_001_0.jpg
HMS Hibernia, flagship of the Mediterranean fleet, commanded by Admiral William Parker, leaving Malta

Finally, a strange letter smelling of Garlic and written in an incomprehensible language arrived, thrown on a rock across the channel, our greatest scientists have failed to decipher it, so the decision is made to just smile and nod and pretend we understand what those curious creatures in Paris are doing.

[HunterICX]

Glorious Great Game? Typical continentals, can't get anything right, it's just "The Great Game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Game)" you frivolous idiot, go back to school...oh wait, you're Prussia, you don't have any. :O:

I was perfectly aware of that you silly Tommy, but we're not here to have just a great game....it has to be Glorious! like Prussia!

[Oberon]

I was perfectly aware of that you silly Tommy, but we're not here to have just a great game....it has to be Glorious! like Prussia!

Glorious Prussia? Last time I checked you were still smarting from your spanking from the Danes! :O: (in fact, technically in Jan 1850, you're still at war with them, but under a truce signed in July 1849...but then again technically Rangoon shouldn't be under my control until 1852... :dead:)

[Task Force]

Ill try to make sure I get everything right next week, just haven't had the time to do it this one.

[Betonov]

God I love this game.
Too bad I got overwhelmed playing it :wah:
Curse you real life

Gott verdamnt, I should be Austria Hungary :hmmm:

[HunterICX]

Glorious Prussia? Last time I checked you were still smarting from your spanking from the Danes! :O: (in fact, technically in Jan 1850, you're still at war with them, but under a truce signed in July 1849...but then again technically Rangoon shouldn't be under my control until 1852... :dead:)

I played Vicky II so I know what I'm doing as Prussia, now go play in your overseas backyard and don't pay that much attention to me. :O:

Ill try to make sure I get everything right next week, just haven't had the time to do it this one.

The GC are 1650 Turns so your delay isn't going to do it as we made clear that if the turns aren't delivered to Raptor withing 48h the turn will proceed with/without your entry unless one is out on holiday or something else we'll have a break. iirc the AI is disabled so nothing will change in your country (construction, unit movement and trade etc).

We should however organize an evening or during the day in the weekend like Saturday/Sunday afternoon where we do a more turns in a row to get somewhere. Thoughts on that?

[HunterICX]

God I love this game.
Too bad I got overwhelmed playing it :wah:
Curse you real life

Gott verdamnt, I should be Austria Hungary :hmmm:

Well to be fair all of us still are overwhelmed by it, so we kinda learn now on the go but I'm pretty sure we'll burn our own nations to the ground eventually.

I played the tutorials to get a understanding of the mere basics of it and play a single player GBR game to experiment and learn as well.

We just did like 2 turns, I'm not sure if it's possible for Raptor to extract a player file for the Nation of Austria midst of a running campaign so you can hop in if not well if you wish to join us to stomp about in the Balkans if the others agree with it as well we just do a quick restart as in the first turn nothing much has been done or changed if the others don't mind it as well.

The only requirement is that you submit your turn within 48 hours before the turn will proceed with or without your entry because if we don't it won't get anywhere.

But the first question to you is do you want to join us in this Glorious Great Game and be the one whos challenge it is to rip the Europe's Grim Reapers balls off?
(also it's quite lonely in Central Europe)

[Betonov]

But the first question to you is do you want to join us in this Glorious Great Game and be the one whos challenge it is to rip the Europe's Grim Reapers balls off?
(also it's quite lonely in Central Europe)

No no, please, continue.
I don't have a copy and my paycheck still hasn't arrived so I cannot purchase it (legally). It might take a week before I can join.

If the game is still on in 2 weeks and I can join in-game as Austria, then I shall reconsider :03:

[HunterICX]

Fair enough :)

Well Raptor wasn't sure he could or if it's even possible but if it is the door is open if you wish to join.:yep:

[Betonov]

Until then:

freelance advisor/spy/shadow government looking for work :)

[Oberon]

I played Vicky II so I know what I'm doing as Prussia, now go play in your overseas backyard and don't pay that much attention to me. :O:

:hmmm::hmmm:

http://replygif.net/i/263.gif

[Oberon]

We should however organize an evening or during the day in the weekend like Saturday/Sunday afternoon where we do a more turns in a row to get somewhere. Thoughts on that?

I'm down with this, Sunday evening would probably be best, from about 21:00GMT onwards? :hmmm:

[Raptor1]

It should be possible for me to put up the turn file for any of the other playable nations at any point in the game, so if anyone else wants to join then say so.

As for a specific day for playing more turns, I'm not sure if that's practical since everybody would have to be available to actively play at the time. It could be done in theory but on Sunday I could only really be there until 20:00 or from about ~22:00-23:00 GMT (I hope I got the time zones right on that) since I'm usually playing with the 53rd at that time. Saturday evening would be best for me, I think.

In any case, I hope the game can continue at a steady rate of one turn per day for now.

[Betonov]

Excellent, as soon as payday arrives, expect the Habsburgs running the Empire again

[Oberon]

Slow and steady wins the race as they say. :yep: Right, let's see what Burma is doing now... :/\\!!

[Raptor1]

The French Republic under the direction of the Glorious Mustache of Louis-Napoléon Bonaparte is, as always, peaceful and industrious.

http://a4.files.biography.com/image/upload/c_fill,g_face,h_300,q_80,w_300/MTE5NDg0MDU1MDgzMjU1MzEx.jpg

All factories are in full production, and we hope the new coal mining facilities in Nivernais shall prove useful to the future expansion of the French Nav...err, economy. Yes, that's it. Wine, steel and other goods are currently available for totally reasonable prices.

There is little activity of note on the colonial front, where French enlightenment is steadily being brought to the savages of Africa and elsewhere. French merchants have been sent to Algeria and Morocco to bring prosperity to the region. In other news, steam warships of the French Navy under the command of Contre-Amiral Edouart Bouet-Willaumez have been spotted sailing along the shores of El Rif.

http://i.imgur.com/7y85Lda.jpg

We assure you that the purpose of this sightseeing expedition is merely to appreciate the beauty of the Moroccan coast and not, as some possibly over-zealous rumours might have you believe, an attempt by the French Republic to incite a war.

[Oberon]

http://www.victorianlondon.org/professions/newsvendors.gif

The beginning of Feburary opens with word of Lord Palmerston throwing a brick through the window of his residence as he receives word that Prussia has begun agitating in Holstein and Sachsen in support of German unification. He is thought to have muttered "It's almost as if they want the Danes to cook their wursts again." under his breath as he downed his sixth glass of scotch of the morning.

Meanwhile, nearby the Prime Minister has been leafing through the extensive documentation of 'How to run a nation in PoN':

http://lowres-picturecabinet.com.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/115/main/6/350042.jpg

And decided that it would probably be a good idea to stop the British economy from following the Ottoman Empire into terminal velocity.

http://i.imgur.com/qUu1nrI.jpg?1

http://www.silverdoctors.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/bitcoin-gone.jpg

So, fresh out of ideas, we looked to the American newspapers for inspiration:

http://www.frumforum.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/beck-gold.png

Well then...there's only one thing for it...
In Portsmouth factories begin churning out the latest weapon in the British arsenal:

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110523171457/villains/images/5/59/Stinky_Pete_the_Prospector.jpg


Meanwhile, the larder in Buckingham Palace has run out of German grade sausages, so a diplomat is dispatched to Hannover to fetch some more.

The British fleets slowly move their way into position, hampered only by the fact that they are made of wood and the sea is made of iron. The Mediterrainean fleet passes a French fleet looking very suspicious off the coast of Spain.

http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rmhttp/schools/primaryhistory/images/ancient_greeks/sea_and_ships/g_fragment_of_the_hull_froma_greek_trading_vessel. jpg
What the Mediterranean fleet will probably look like by the time it reaches Portsmouth.

Random effects were thrown at the colonies, noticing France's 'Merchant spam' a similar tactic was thrown at South Africa in the hope that it will do something (probably provoke an uprising).

[Oberon]

So...the economy...

http://i.imgur.com/PtPAzet.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/CZ9elnT.jpg

*sigh*

Back to studying the economics of PoN:

http://www.meljoncodex.com/images/massive_book_new.jpg

[Raptor1]

All that Merchant Spam costs a lot of moolahs to set up, maybe you've run out and couldn't afford buying resources or something like that?

I'm actually rather surprised my economy doesn't seem to have gone into the abyss yet, as it usually does as soon as I start playing this (or anything else that actually features economics). Maybe it's waiting so that my downfall will happen at the most catastrophic time...

[Oberon]

All I know is that I'm haemorraging funds at quite the pace and seemingly have no immediate way to retrieve them. I have prospectors coming online to go find some glod but until then...well...

Welcome to Argentina. :rock:

[HunterICX]

A foul smell is in the air

February 1850
http://i.imgur.com/CfvwD2i.jpg?1

According to my foreign minister Alexander von Schleinitz the United Kingdom soon will bear the stench of Garlic as they accepted a state visit proposal of the Republic of France. The more reason he says that we should strenghten our resolve to form a stronger Nation in Europe and that it shouldn't be done alone.

http://i.imgur.com/01UQgdO.jpg?1

[Betonov]

Austria shall stand by their German brothers.

I a few days that is

[Oberon]

Right then, time to file for bankrup...

http://i.imgur.com/NyH13Yw.jpg

..tcy?

http://img.pandawhale.com/78641-I-understand-nothing-gif-Steve-yQ7r.gif

So, with that crisis somehow...errr...solved? And a minor tea crisis averted, it's time to look at what else is going on.

France launched a major naval display of force off the coast of el-Rif, Royal navy ships were briefly dispatched from Gibraltar to pick up the shipwrecked French sailors....

http://edpaha.com/livingthedream/images/austriafire.jpg
A French naval show of force in its natural environment

[TarJak]

Will be watching this with interest.:hmmm: Should be hilarious.

[Oberon]

And now it's going down again...

Ladies and Gentlemen, my economy has invented the seismograph!! :rock:

[Raptor1]

It says something about quarterly income in the economic thingamajigy, so I guess you get more money every few turns. Anyway, Vicky taught me the solution to this: Tax the poor!

[HunterICX]

The Warmongering French!

It's is clear that France is on the road to disrupt the peace in Europe by continuously agitating the Kingdom of Spain which might eventually lead to war between the two nations. King Wilhelm strongly condemns these actions by the French and warns them that'll it bear severe consequences if they take it too far.

http://i.imgur.com/N09dfvt.jpg?1

[Oberon]

Look, I know I still have Wellesley around, but I'd rather not bring him out of the retirement home and wheel him into Europe again.
Prussia, just remember which side you're on this time, no more switching sides half-way through the war. :hmmm::O:

[HunterICX]

Look, I know I still have Wellesley around, but I'd rather not bring him out of the retirement home and wheel him into Europe again.

Just attach two horses to his Weelchair and you've got a proper War Chariot.

Prussia, just remember which side you're on this time, no more switching sides half-way through the war. :hmmm::O:Ow comon you can't deny it can get confusing at times...there are interests that have certain priorities over these silly things like treaties and well....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_6AQA4uzD0

Sorry what was that again?

[Raptor1]

Do not be alarmed. France has misplaced a wheel of cheese off the coast of El Rif and the French Navy is only attempting to rescue it. There is no warmongering afoot. Once the cheese has been safely reclaimed, the French Republic shall invite all of Europe to a most glorious banquet in Madrid. Oui?

[Oberon]

Ow comon you can't deny it can get confusing at times...there are interests that have certain priorities over these silly things like treaties and well....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_6AQA4uzD0

Sorry what was that again?

Nurse! Nurse! He's at it again! Did he take his medication this morning?

Do not be alarmed. France has misplaced a wheel of cheese off the coast of El Rif and the French Navy is only attempting to rescue it. There is no warmongering afoot. Once the cheese has been safely reclaimed, the French Republic shall invite all of Europe to a most glorious banquet in Madrid. Oui?

:hmmm:

http://i.imgur.com/IVsOGNU.jpg

[Oberon]

Right, let's see if this works, I've kicked the taxes up and am back in black in regards to financial health.
Of course, what comes next is complete social collapse and revolution.

Fortunately in the UK we're well versed in dealing with civil unrest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterloo_Massacre):

http://www.jonathanschofieldtours.com/uploads/3/8/3/2/3832606/3501417_orig.jpg

[TarJak]

Right, let's see if this works, I've kicked the taxes up and am back in black in regards to financial health.
Of course, what comes next is complete social collapse and revolution.

Fortunately in the UK we're well versed in dealing with civil unrest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterloo_Massacre):

http://www.jonathanschofieldtours.com/uploads/3/8/3/2/3832606/3501417_orig.jpg
Send them over here of course when the lower classes get a bit uppity eh?

[Oberon]

Send them over here of course when the lower classes get a bit uppity eh?

Exactly! :up: That reminds me, got to throw one of those prospecting parties at Australia, IIRC you have some nice gold mines down there.

http://the-australian-gold-rush.wikispaces.com/file/view/come_to_australia.jpg/224395250/come_to_australia.jpg

[Oberon]

Well, no profit was made this turn...but no loss either...so that's a start...

Operation Pungent Peter is being undertaken by the Channel Fleet while other naval forces are beginning to arrive in the sea of Bengal.

Meanwhile in Africa...really? A river?

http://i.imgur.com/dbFeWW0.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blood_River

:o :hmmm:

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/30304787.jpg

[TarJak]

Exactly! :up: That reminds me, got to throw one of those prospecting parties at Australia, IIRC you have some nice gold mines down there.

http://the-australian-gold-rush.wikispaces.com/file/view/come_to_australia.jpg/224395250/come_to_australia.jpg

Ha! You ain't seen nothing yet:
http://www.mining.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/olimpiada-gold-mine.jpg

1853 was a mere flash in the pan. Mind you we don' see many of these much these days:
http://www.goldnuggetsales.com/images/MGN.jpg

[Oberon]

http://www.down4sound.com/forum/images/smilies/do%20want.jpg

[Betonov]

the Habsburgs are once again ready to lead Austria


Gott hilf mir
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-W6J3Yadm07o/T8Wsb_ZPlkI/AAAAAAAAKL4/K6oTEhsR1dk/s1600/2403601028_26901dfdb7_o.jpg

[HunterICX]

Ah finally, now Austria and Prussia...together we will......

http://i.imgur.com/Wy5kJJR.jpg

Wait that's not it...ehm

http://i.imgur.com/gJiQbWW.jpg?1

that's not it either...dammit...what about...

http://i.imgur.com/c3UDVuJ.jpg?1
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hetalia:_Axis_Powers)

http://i.imgur.com/DVFW3H2.gif

[Betonov]

Strange thing.

When our most blessed Emperor was drafting an agreement with Prussia, a strange figure appeared, wearing a strange green hat with a jumping deer sown on it and said: beware Konigsgratz :hmmm:

And the next day when our most blessed Emperor was drafting his agreement with France, the strange figure appeared again, but this time it said: beware Solferino :hmmm:

The dirty slavs are up to their dirty tricks again. We'll have to hang more of them

[Betonov]

His Imperial and Royal Apostolic Majesty,
Franz Joseph I, by the Grace of God Emperor of Austria, King of Hungary, Bohemia, King of Lombardy and Venice, of Dalmatia, Croatia, Slavonia, Galicia, Lodomeria and Illyria; King of Jerusalem etc., Archduke of Austria; Grand Duke of Tuscany and Cracow, Duke of Lorraine, of Salzburg, Styria, Carinthia, Carniola and of the Bukovina; Grand Prince of Transylvania; Margrave of Moravia; Duke of Upper and Lower Silesia, of Modena, Parma, Piacenza and Guastalla, of Auschwitz, Zator and Teschen, Friuli, Ragusa and Zara ; Princely Count of Habsburg and Tyrol, of Kyburg, Gorizia and Gradisca; Prince of Trent and Brixen; Margrave of Upper and Lower Lusatia and in Istria; Count of Hohenems, Feldkirch, Bregenz, Sonnenberg, etc.; Lord of Trieste, of Cattaro , and over the Windic march..


https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/532x752q90/540/68quJo.jpg


Portrait commissioned by His Imperial Majesty and executed by count Herr von Berbunch

[HunterICX]

Prussia May 1850

http://i.imgur.com/vUEyzmV.jpg?1

The mere Audacity, the Russians declined our proposal for a state visit in an attempt to open the doors between our countries for further negotiations which we inted to be beneficial for both our great nations.
However apart from that they declined this generous and humble offer from our part they dare to insult us by calling our nation a threat to the peace.
We hope friends of Prussia takes note of this which clearly shows how the big empire of Slavs sees their European neighbours.

In other news our Economy is slow but steadily going the right dirrection we hope soon to exploit some of our resources to become a strong and healthy German nation.

http://i.imgur.com/QrcOkeD.jpg?1

[TarJak]

His Imperial and Royal Apostolic Majesty,
Franz Joseph I, by the Grace of God Emperor of Austria, King of Hungary, Bohemia, King of Lombardy and Venice, of Dalmatia, Croatia, Slavonia, Galicia, Lodomeria and Illyria; King of Jerusalem etc., Archduke of Austria; Grand Duke of Tuscany and Cracow, Duke of Lorraine, of Salzburg, Styria, Carinthia, Carniola and of the Bukovina; Grand Prince of Transylvania; Margrave of Moravia; Duke of Upper and Lower Silesia, of Modena, Parma, Piacenza and Guastalla, of Auschwitz, Zator and Teschen, Friuli, Ragusa and Zara ; Princely Count of Habsburg and Tyrol, of Kyburg, Gorizia and Gradisca; Prince of Trent and Brixen; Margrave of Upper and Lower Lusatia and in Istria; Count of Hohenems, Feldkirch, Bregenz, Sonnenberg, etc.; Lord of Trieste, of Cattaro , and over the Windic march..


https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/532x752q90/540/68quJo.jpg


Portrait commissioned by His Imperial Majesty and executed by count Herr von Berbunch
:har: Nice hat and sunnies, Herr Emperor!

[Betonov]

We received a dispatch from Torino that the crown prince of Piemont is a spoiled ambitious brat having nightly drunken stupors shouting: RETAKE MILAN !!!!

Our Emperor in his blessed wisdom decided to sent the great general Radetzky with a quarter of the Imperial Army to the Prussian border for some exercise maneuvers. To be ready if the Italians attack. Maneuvers, nothing more.

Gott erhalte unser Kaiser
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/60/Austria-hungary-coa.png

Just realised why I was making so much capital every turn.
I was selling the raw materials needed for the factories :wah:

[Oberon]

Things are starting to look up for the British Empire, money is being made although heavy spending of private capital has resulted in an increase in inflation but this is nothing we cannot handle.

However, a CRISIS HAS EMERGED!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/D%C3%B6meke_Harbi_Zonaro.jpg

Gentlemen, the sick man of Europe, the Ottoman Empire has declared war on the newly independent nation of Greece in a brazen display of arrogance. We call upon the nations of Europe to band together to put the Ottoman Empire back in its place!

[Betonov]

I agree, the Otoman transgression will not stand.
Today Greece falls, tomorrow they'll be crossing en masse into Croatia and then against Vienna. It will be 1529 all over again. :stare:

A CONFERENCE I SAY !!!!!!!!
A coalition must be made.
I suggest Vienna, we have Mozartkugel


BUT FIRST !!!!!!
France has been granted railroad managing and customs managing rights in Florence :stare:
Tuscany has always been part of the Holy Roman Empire, of which the Habsburgs have been the sacred rulers and protectors.
We view it as a direct attempt to unify the Italian states under a Bonapartist yoke at the expense of Austrian lands :stare:

(really Raptor, how did you do that, the manual says you can only do that to unorganised states and why can't I do that to Bavaria :hmmm: )

[Raptor1]

The Turk has once again invaded the soil of Europe. Should we tolerate this clear infringement of the terms of the Treaty of Constantinople? I say: Non! If the Turk has not yet learned the lesson that was repeatedly taught to it in the last three centuries, then it is the duty of the enlightened nations of Europe to put it down once more. France shall do all in its power to safeguard its interests and the people of Europe against this unprovoked expansionism.


BUT FIRST !!!!!!
France has been granted railroad managing and customs managing rights in Florence :stare:
Tuscany has always been part of the Holy Roman Empire, of which the Habsburgs have been the sacred rulers and protectors.
We view it as a direct attempt to unify the Italian states under a Bonapartist yoke at the expense of Austrian lands :stare:

The Holy Roman Empire and its corrupt establishment are dead, renounced by the Habsburgs themselves. The Austrian monarchy has no right to interfere with the people of Italy or France's noble attempts to provide assistance to them.

(really Raptor, how did you do that, the manual says you can only do that to unorganised states and why can't I do that to Bavaria :hmmm: )

((I have no idea what constitutes an unorganized state, to be honest. I know that they're not the same thing as 'tribal' states, though, so not necessarily only colonial nations are considered unorganized.))

[HunterICX]

I agree, the Otoman transgression will not stand.
Today Greece falls, tomorrow they'll be crossing en masse into Croatia and then against Vienna. It will be 1529 all over again. :stare:


Do not worry my Austrian Brothers, we shall stand together if such a thing may come to pass.

As for this Turkish agression towards the population of Greece it caught us by complete suprise and it will have a proper reply shortly after a emergency meeting.

[Betonov]

((I have no idea what constitutes an unorganized state, to be honest. I know that they're not the same thing as 'tribal' states, though, so not necessarily only colonial nations are considered unorganized.))

organized major powers are the great powers of the time, like Austria and France
organized minors are the rest of the western countries like Bavaria and Sweden. And Florence should be in there.
disorganized are the non western countries like China and Afganistan. Countries with a government but still mostly feudal states.
Tribal are just tribal.

Only with disorganized and tribal one can use colonization cards. That's the way it's in the manual. Maybe north Italian states are in Frances sphere of influence and are an exception. But then again Bavaria should be in Austrian SoI ????

This game is like playing hockey in the dark with obstacles and no one was shown the obstacles the day before :dead:

[Betonov]

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/720x585q90/674/l0OXrr.jpg

[eddie]

Are you stuck Hunter? Need help with taking over the world? Got just the guys to help you if needed!:D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/Thony/pinky_brain_zpsab6746f6.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/Thony/media/pinky_brain_zpsab6746f6.jpg.html)

[Oberon]

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/720x585q90/674/l0OXrr.jpg

:har::har: :up::up:

That is brilliant and absolutely spot on for the current situation... :yep:

[HunterICX]

Are you stuck Hunter?

I'm never stuck, one just needs to look to the east to see space...lots of space.

[Betonov]

I'm never stuck, one just needs to look to the east to see space...lots of space.

Perhaps I can cancel my defence treaty with Russia for another billateral agreement with Prussia.
That Lebensraum is hard to get if someone keep poking you in your belly :03:

[HunterICX]

Perhaps I can cancel my defence treaty with Russia for another billateral agreement with Prussia.
That Lebensraum is hard to get if someone keep poking you in your belly :03:

:haha:

[HunterICX]

Prussia Late November 1850

http://i.imgur.com/rW14xi5.jpg

With the passing earlier this month of the Minister-President Friedrich Wilhelm Count Brandenburg, Otto Theodor von Manteuffel takes his place as Prussia's Minster-President and shows great promise in fulfilling his duty.

http://i.imgur.com/xUwpgqT.jpg?1

Also this Month sees France declaring war against Tunisia, it's still unclear the reason that let to this declaration but we'll soon hear from France their statement in this matter.

[Betonov]

We are worried that the Bonapartiste are at it again. First they take over small weak heathen nations to enlarge their war power capabilities and then go on a conquest of Europe like Napoleon III more famous uncle.


In the meantime, Austria is enjoying an economic boom, a major industrial investment every month and an Empire wide railroad construction. Soon Milan and Köenigratz will be connected and we will be able to quickly respond to threats in the north and west.
https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1153x923q90/661/h08pZv.jpg

[Raptor1]

Monseigneurs, I am afraid there has been a most grave misunderstanding. You see, General Pélissier's troops were just out for a stroll when they might have accidentally crossed the border into Tunis, which France of course respects very much. The heathens immediately decided to aggressively pursue unfriendly means and savagely assault the innocent French troops so naturally we had to most reasonably resort to occupying and burning down their capital. How this could be misconstrued as a declaration of war is really beyond us.

[Betonov]

We, the most blessed Austrian Emperor will let this pass.
Any excuse to have your troops stationed as far away from the Italian states as possible is good for us

[Oberon]

https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9g9xkEjAf1qbdumgo2_r1_250.gif

https://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9gcjqmM5P1qbsnwl.gif

[Admiral Halsey]

I need the laugh this thread gave me. I'm detecting a lack of 'Murica though. Is Task Force going to post here as well or is he an "off screen" character?

[HunterICX]

I need the laugh this thread gave me. I'm detecting a lack of 'Murica though. Is Task Force going to post here as well or is he an "off screen" character?

Well if I lean back and look west I can see something in the far far distance on fire....I guess he's jus to busy burning Indian tribes...or since the lack of reports the Indians are burning down his towns :haha:

[Betonov]

Just wait until inevitably Europe blows up.
The smoke from that mess will block Task Forces sun for turns :haha:

[Betonov]

Gentlemen

The last turn of the first year is upon us and tomorrow we will gaze into 1851, not with fear or wonder, but bold confidence in ourselves and our nation.
For this Glorious great game is also a gentleman's game and we, the gentlemen, whether aristocrats with a lineage to Charlemagne himself or self made men of the republics, are not afraid of the future.
One cannot be afraid of what one creates.

Gentlemen, here's to 1851, the peace in Europe and growing prosperity

Industrie und Glück
http://thewailingwalls.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Bal_hotel_de_ville_Vienne_Wilhelm_Gause-950x425.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqm9jaM5UPA

[HunterICX]

Prussia late Dec 1850

As all the festivities and joy sweep through the Prussian kingdom one can't help to think how blessed they are to be part of this wonderful era where one can only look forward for a better future for themselves and that of the kingdom.

Here's to 1851 to peace and friendship.

[HunterICX]

Prussia early Jan 1851

As the new year begins it also begins for Alred Krupp whos conern is now considered one of the largest in Germany with advances made in the rail industry, artillery guns and cast steel output.

http://i.imgur.com/IKRT9Rs.jpg?1

[eddie]

You're awful quiet over here Hunter, is Denmark giving you a hard time!?!:D

[HunterICX]

You're awful quiet over here Hunter, is Denmark giving you a hard time!?!:D

http://i.imgur.com/jJRNrdO.gif

What do you take me for? Someone that's always out to dominate the world?

[Oberon]

What do you take me for? Someone that's always out to dominate the world?

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/148983/3550277-7033972547-_1360.gif

[eddie]

Good one Oberon!:D

[eddie]

Still awful quiet over here Hunter! What's the matter, is Oktoberfest slowing down your Prussian armies?:haha:

[HunterICX]

Still awful quiet over here Hunter! What's the matter, is Oktoberfest slowing down your Prussian armies?:haha:
*mutters*
You know there's always that moment of calm before the storm.

*wipes maps with plans of the table*

Eh...just busy with economical stuff....you know building a mine here a munitio....Furniture Factory there.

[Oberon]

Well, why don't you come to the Great Exhibition in Hyde Park and see how it's done?

http://media.vam.ac.uk/media/thira/collection_images/2006AG/2006AG1658.jpg

Amidst the largest creation of steel and glass ever seen in the world are the greatest treasures and finest items of mechanical, cultural and historical significance ever assembled in Europe...nay, in the world!



Now...if you'll excuse me, I'll be trying to find my economy from where it's fallen down the back of the sofa...which in turn is somewhere in a jungle in Burma... :hmmm:

[eddie]

Ah, I see the UK is going through the Oberon Depression of the 1850's!:D

[Schroeder]

Oberon is not only the master of stalling aircraft but is obviously also quite capable of stalling economies.:D

(not that I would be any better in this...:shifty:)

[Betonov]

This game needs a reverse of issue state bonds. A public funding of private projects or something.
I have a surplus of state funds with a cooling economy and I'd really love to spend some of them on a factory or 5

[HunterICX]

I've got the same issue, state capital is doing fine but my private capital always lingers around 600-700 which is a bit of a pain as it prevents me from taking over the ..... taking steps to increase consumer goods.

So back to the drawing board and reading material regarding the economy features in this game.

[eddie]

Still building furniture factories and wineries Hunter? To take over the world you have to do better then throwing furniture at your enemies and then hitting them over the head with a bottle of wine!:D

[Betonov]

http://i.imgur.com/rTRiYPG.png

[ikalugin]

How about glorious Russian Empire? After all it was us who has defeated that rather short Corporal that terrified the rest of Europe. (I refer to the 2nd post in the thread, writen by Oberon).

And yes, we did play the great game.

[Betonov]

How about glorious Russian Empire? After all it was us who has defeated that rather short Corporal that terrified the rest of Europe. (I refer to the 2nd post in the thread, writen by Oberon).

And yes, we did play the great game.

It's AI controlled. If you have the game and can regularly (tops 48hours) turn in your turns, you can play the glorious empire of the Russians.
The treaty of the three Emperors only has 2 Emperors at the moment.

[ikalugin]

I guess I would cheer from the side lines :)

[Betonov]

Russia has a similar situation as Austria, you'll spend more time keeping the Empire together than just cheer at sidelines :)

[ikalugin]

Which is strange, as this is not really historic as far as I remember (in 19th century that is).

[Oberon]

How about glorious Russian Empire? After all it was us who has defeated that rather short Corporal that terrified the rest of Europe. (I refer to the 2nd post in the thread, writen by Oberon).

And yes, we did play the great game.

I'm waiting for Russia to start antagonising my Afghan border, but so far the Tsar has been quiet...which is just as well since I'm busy getting lost in the Burmese jungles... :dead:

[Oberon]

Britain cannot into jungle:

http://i.imgur.com/oBYevDx.jpg

[Betonov]

Which is strange, as this is not really historic as far as I remember (in 19th century that is).

It was a daily routine for every empire back then :03:



Bloody idiot, I was producing 5 times the amount of cotton needed by my textile mills, but I wasn't exporting any :/\\!! And the booze, and the fruit and the cattle :/\\!!
The increased export from Austria should make me some money and destroy the world economy :oops:

[Betonov]

I think the Crimean war just started

[Oberon]

The United Kingdom find ourselves in a quandry. Whilst on the one hand we feel willing to assist the Ottoman Empire against this unprovoked attack by the savage Russian beast...however on the other hand we do have to remember that it has not even been a year since the Ottoman Empire savagely attacked our friends in Greece.

As such, the United Kingdom is inclined to monitor developments closely.

(that, and I have no idea how the combat in this thing works, and I'd probably just wind up in a war against Russia that I cannot win)

[Betonov]

How this game ridiculously follows history, you should win this war just by taking Sevastopol and nothing else. I'm also guessing that by occupying 3/4 of Russia and nothing in Crimea means you loose it.

I wonder if Austria gets a CB to assist Russia. Russians tried to get Austrians on their side. Caused a lot of resentment because Austria decided to stay out of this war, despite Russia helping them pacify a Hungarian revolt just years earlier.


Oh, and I decided to start writing this AAR as an AAR. Trough the eyes of different people in the Empire, chronicling event's trough their own eyes.

[Betonov]

January 1852.
I arrived almost a month ago. I slipped trough the border at new years. And about time. I hear there's a war between Russia and the heathens to the south. A band of gypsies helped me cross and now I live in a place called Galicia. I may try to find a job in Lviv when the snow thaws.
But for now I'll just stay in this village. The people are nice and my late husband worked as a Russian-German translator and he taught me the language.

I hope trading the double eagle of the Romanovs for the double eagle of the Habsburgs wasn't a mistake.

Svetlana Tikhomirova, 21 years old, newly arrived in Austria


More PoN AAR to come, adventures of Svetlana and stories about an Austrian officer, Czech policeman and a Slovene artisan living in the chaos known as 19th century Austria

[Oberon]

Nice! :yeah:

Perhaps I should do something similar... :hmmm: I shall ruminate on it. :yep:

[Betonov]

March 8th, Prague

All is calm despite the war just over the borders. Some elder folks need calming down, They're still jumpy every time a major war starts, the French Corporal is still alive in their memories. Plus, we're not even involved this time. Other than that, everyone keeps going about their business.
the ''most esteem'' businesmen are complaining, there's not enough investments made into their industry. I heard what industrial centers look like in England. Lets keep Prague clean. And I should have them arrested, how can they say they know more than our Glorious Emperor.
Crime is low, only a few thefts, no murder since the new year incident. Had to intervene a brawl yesterday. Lucky for me, the instigator was my neighbor, who I dislike. He looks at my wife funny, now he just looks funny.

It's good to be the law.

Eugen Liška, officer of the Imperial Gendarmerie, Prague

[Betonov]

March 25th, 1852, classified

That's that. I have finally disgraced my family. Marshal von Radetzky does not take kind to junior officers giving better advice. His litanies are but a storm in a teacup compared to Fathers speeches of our glorious ancestors, the battles we fought against the Turks, Prussians and Napoleon. He can't keep quiet how my grandfather lost his leg at Austerlitz like being maimed is some strange form of medal. And Him, esteemed Father, Herr Oberst Otto von Fürstenberg, the greatest warrior of them all. Earned medal after medal in training maneuvers. Got a personal letter from the Emperor himself after he fell of a horse and broke his leg. I believe he uses this letter to help him perform at his mistress house.
I wanted to be a doctor to help people, not be a part of the same meat grinder that went about it's bloody business since Kane and Abel.
Next stop Galizia as an assistant to a garrison medic. The situation in Russia could mean I'll have to sow guts back in to my peers bellies. Sickening.

Leutnant Klaus Heinkel von Fürstenberg, former I. corp. regimentsartz, now assistentartz

[Betonov]

May 5th 1852, Zhirovnica

I hate my father in law. That pompous son of a milkmaid. Just because he worked as a merchant sailor in the English fleet he thinks he'll make englishmen of us all. Talking about their great factories day and night and all I hear is ruin and smoke and making us artisans into animals or beggars. I'll stay a blacksmith. I work at home and feed my family. No need to go die into one of those ''factories''.
And all of that poisons my wife. She started talking about sending our soon to be born child to school to be an engineer. And I'm supposed to work with metal until I die behind the furnace ?? NO, this nonsense stops after she gives birth.
But I'll give one thing to the old owl. He was right when he said that the iron road would bring me fortune. I made a nice sum of money making nails for the railroad tracks. Too bad that money is already in the tuition fund for the child. Foreign nonsense.

3 more months.

Janez Kovač, blacksmith

[Betonov]

May 30th 1852, Praha

The death of Prime Minister Felix Schwarzenberg earlier this month did not stir the anarchists as we feared in the Gendarmerie. There were odd students having a march down the Wenceslas Square, some nationalist agitators failing to get the attention of sober passer by's and a drunker national hero here and there. All of them were apprehended and sent home in the morning with a black eye and a fat fine for agitation.
After the executions in 1848 the Emperor is playing it nice. And thank the lord for it. What I witnessed 4 years ago still gives me nightmares.


Eugen Liška, officer of the Imperial Gendarmerie, Prague

[Raptor1]

Le Moniteur Universal
May, 1852

http://i.imgur.com/RgFzt5R.jpg

A bloody two years since French troops first entered Tunis at the start of the Greco-Ottoman Crisis, Muhammed II, Bey of Tunis has finally surrendered his rogue army and agreed to recognize French interests in Tunisia. Under the terms of the Treaty of Bardo, signed in the Ksar Saïd palace between representatives of the French Republic and Muhammed Bey, the French government has agreed to recognize the Husainid Dynasty's current rule in Tunis in exchange for the demobilization of the former Tunisian army and relegation of foreign affairs and defense responsibilities to the French Republic. The French Consulate in Tunis has assured us that this would allow France to best protect Tunisia from any further attempts at Ottoman expansionism.

Général de division Pierre Bosquet, who took command of the French Army's Algerian Division at the start of the year, has refused to comment on the Army's inability to bring about a decisive conclusion to the campaign prior to his appointment.

[Oberon]

The Times
Monday 7th June 1852

http://www.vallejogallery.com/artists/C/China%20Trade/Hong%20Kong%20Victoria%20Peak%201850/Hong%20Kong%20Harbor%20and%20Victoria%20Peak%20un% 20framed%20e-mail.jpg

Following reports of dreadful massacres in the siege of Guilin, the War Office in Whitehall has confirmed that it is sending forces to Asia in order to 'protect British interests in these troubled times'.
The official denied reports of tension with Burma, insisting that Britain would follow 'to the letter' the agreements forged in the peace treaty between Britain and Burma signed last year.
Field Marshal Viscount Hardinge is said to have boarded the fleet lead by Rear Admiral Sir Reynolds at Portsmouth on Friday which will set sail later this month.

[Betonov]

June 3rd 1852, Lviv

They say children are no longer allowed to work in the factories. I'll just have to buy a newspaper to see for myself. If it's true then coming here was not a mistake. I saw hundreds of children missing limbs from textile mill accidents or burnt faces from industrial furnaces. Now my child will not suffer the same fate.
I start a new job next month at the local clinic. A lot of my countrymen from Russia pass Austria on their way to America and need to be treated. Knowing Russian got me a job as a nurse. It's army run but I hope nurses are not required to know the army drills. I don't know how to salute.

Svetlana Tikhomirovova

[Betonov]

I can't understand this game. Like my capital is caped at 700. My balance screen shows growth, my economic screen shows I'll start the next turn with 2800 capital, but it's always between 600 and 700. if I start building some third grade logging camp and end with 50 capital I'll start the next turn with 650 an the turn after with 650 again, without changing a thing :/\\!!

[HunterICX]

Under the Ministery of Commerce (F4) there are 2 slideres in the middle under Transactions regarding the rate of succes when it comes to sales and purchases of the trade you do.
I usually keep the slider of sales at a 100% and the purchases around 60-70% (this slider resets each turn back to 100% / 100%) so you'll have to do this each turn.

[Betonov]

Under the Ministery of Commerce (F4) there are 2 slideres in the middle under Transactions regarding the rate of succes when it comes to sales and purchases of the trade you do.
I usually keep the slider of sales at a 100% and the purchases around 60-70% (this slider resets each turn back to 100% / 100%) so you'll have to do this each turn.

Fiddled with both of them, no success :nope:
Lowering the buy transaction to 50% showed me that I will start the next turn with up to 3000 capital, when the turn arrived we were at 650 :/\\!!

[HunterICX]

Fiddled with both of them, no success :nope:
Lowering the buy transaction to 50% showed me that I will start the next turn with up to 3000 capital, when the turn arrived we were at 650 :/\\!!

well it's nothing but a prediction, I should earn 4000 capital a turn with how I set up my trade and transactions however that would also mean my people would die of starvation, cold and disease. :D

I had the same problem as you but then I started to look into my trades and saw that I was buying stuff I was producing myself in enough quantities and stopped those and offered more on the international market which I have a big enough stockpile of and now I'm having an income of 200 capital a turn if I'm lucky but at least it goes up now and allows me to invest in my industries and infrastructure.

[Oberon]

The Times

Monday 21st June 1852 ----------------------------------------------------- Cheaper than Austria!

DIABOLICAL FRENCH PLOT ENDS THE WORLD
http://i.imgur.com/ZUf9qyK.jpg?1

It was announced by Whitehall today that a secret French super-weapon has ended the existence of the world, or at very least Western Europe which is pretty much the same thing. The weapon was detonated whilst the British Prime Minister was checking the military forces heading out to Hong Kong. It was unknown at first who was responsible for the world turning into a low resolution mess, but then evidence was gathered and presented to the press by Whitehall at this mornings briefing. We have included a lithiograph of the evidence below. It is unknown how this will effect relations between France and the UK, however sources within the British leadership indicate that so long as it doesn't effect the import of tea and opium then relations should remain sound.

http://i.imgur.com/KF9ttp9.jpg?1



EDITORS NOTE: A simple reload of the save fixed the problem. Never seen PoN do that before though, quite impressive.

[Betonov]

June 30th 1852, Zhirovnica

Another boring newspaper. Sometimes I wish my mother would never have forced me to learn to read. State visits, some promise of support to the Prussians. We should take back Silesia not try to get to their good side.
The new Prime minister promises an end to material shortage and a swift end to the capital recession. Great, more trade reforms. Like the last one didn't completely ruin all my established suppliers. I have to buy coal from Bohemia because Croatian coal is reserved for the Russian markets. Something tells me things are going to get a lot worse.
That's life in Austria. Logic is something the Habsburgs hunt and then make venison out of it.

Janez Kovač

[Betonov]

July 8th 1852, Lviv Galizia

So the trade agreement was ignored by Sardinia-Piedmont. And we responded by threats. Good idea, let's start a war. I'm bored here in Galizia tending to peasant blisters and cuts. Maybe they'll put me back into the first corp, I doubt those two idiots Gartinni and Hauser could handle the wounded. Gartinni has an idea that because da Vinci was Italian all Italians knew medicine and I'm not even going to mention Hauser, tried to operate on his own leg. Idiots.
At least I'll have some fun next week. A new nurse is to arrive, a Russian. I'm supposed to train her in the art of healing and nursing. That's what i've been ordered anyway. 2 days and she'll beg the commander to be transfered. Damn it Kaiser, I'm a doctor not a nurse handler.

Leutnant Klaus Heinkel von Fürstenberg, assistentartz

[Betonov]

July 20th 1852, Lviv

Dreary news everywhere. Why I even read the papers. A war in Russia that might drag Austria in, protests in Wien and a fire in Lviv. I learned a lot yesterday tending to the injured. I'm in training to be a nurse and yesterdays fire really helped to confirm my calling to help people.
And I have a really nice teacher. Grumpy and a little overzealous, but I know he's a nice person underneath. I understand he needs to be stern with me, how am I going to learn anything otherwise.

And look at all the railroads
http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag213/betonanze/Eisenbahn_zps25431b4d.png

We don't have those in Russia. We don't have those in Galizia either. But they'll build one eventually. The Emperor himself promised it.

Svetlana Tikhomirova, nurse (to be)

[Betonov]

August 16th 1852, somewhere outside Praha

March order. I've got a march order. A fancy name for a draft notice. I've been assigned as a Gendarmerie Korporal to the II. Armee lead by von Heß.
What is going on anyway.
They don't send an entire army on a march unless a....

Bože, pomoz mi


Eugen Liška, Korporal, II. Armee



https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQaKYgKAuwCAQ99aX0JVXjAaBG3Avdja 7wlmJLQWK1HmtU16VhsBQ

[Oberon]

Minutes from a meeting between Prime Minister Edward Smith-Stanley and the Foreign Secretary the Earl of Malmesbury, Friday 27th August 1852

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/Edward_Smith-Stanley,_14th_Earl_of_Derby-1865.jpg/245px-Edward_Smith-Stanley,_14th_Earl_of_Derby-1865.jpg

It has come to the attention of the Foreign Office that intelligence agents belonging to the Austrian Empire are active within the Ottoman Empire agitating a cause for war.
The Prime Minister expressed his surprise at such an act given the already fragile state of affairs in the Balkans.
The Foreign Secretary has surmised that it is likely that the Austrian agitation is a prelude to offensive operations south of the Danube.
The Prime Minister wished to understand how well the Ottoman Empire would be able to repel such an offensive.
The Foreign Secretary replied that the Ottoman Empire was still heavily embroiled in its war with Russia as well as the offensive into Greece, so the chances are that a third nation at war with it would cause great disruption within the already emperiled empire. If Prussia came to the aid of its Austrian ally then the Ottomans would stand little chance.
The Prime Minister commented on the unlikelihood of Prussia assisting Austria in an offensive campaign, but mulled that such things were not unheard of.
The Foreign Secretary also reported that Nanjing had fallen to the Taipang forces, causing great concern from the Prime Minister who asked for the status of the British forces underway to Hong Kong, he was assured that they would be arriving within the month.

[HunterICX]

The Austro-Ottoman War.
Prussia September 1852

http://i.imgur.com/a020TDI.jpg
The Prussian 1.Armee who currently is stationed in Breslau led by Wilhelm von Preußen has received orders to make the necessary preperations. Internationaly we wish to make clear that Prussia will stand by Austria, we will not however initiate the hostilies with the Ottomans but we will be left without a choise if Austria asks for our aid.

[Betonov]

To all the leaders of the civilized world

Ottomans may call it a crusade, Britain may call it an agresion. Austria calls it a help to a friend. The world should call it keeping the peace.

The volatile Balkan states are a powder keg. And the only thing keeping the match from igniting it is the frail hand of the Ottoman Empire, the sick man of Europe. Not only are we obliged to assist the already weary Russian forces in a fight against the once mighty scourge of Christian Europe, as they came to our aid in the Hungarian rebellion of 1848, but future peace in the region and the entire Europe. The Balkan region need a stern and decisive hand of the Habsburg Empire.

There is also a fear that we will drag in our ally Prussia. I assure you, this war is an Austrian matter. We will not escalate beyond what is necessary for victory.

So tell your subjects, your citizens and your families to sleep easy tonight. For a war today will prevent a catastrophe in the future.

Gott erhalte unser Kaiser



Foreign minister of the Austria
Karl Ferdinand von Buol



http://www.kuk-wehrmacht.de/gefechte/img/oestinf.jpg

[Betonov]

OK, non AAR post.

I drew first blood so I'll be plowing new ground as we say here.
I'll make notes, make observations and because having a fun game is more important than having an edge when it comes to warfare, I'll share everything I learn from this war on game mechanics.
I'm contemplating eventually dragging Hunter in to see how alliance mechanics work, but I really don't want to start a world war. Again.

[Betonov]

September 10th 1852, Lviv

Ottomans may call it a crusade, Britain may call it an agresion. Austria calls it a help to a friend. The world should call it keeping the peace.

What lovely words written by our foreign minister.
They even added a lovely picture of an Austrian holding the peace between the Serbs and Muslims.

http://ww1.cdn-1.reoccupy.eu/files/styles/large/public/originale/hmw_039261_00047.jpg?itok=kuELeXbY


What a lovely notion, a noble endeavour to keep the Balkans at peace....

YOU STARTED A WAR MANIACS !!!!!

I should be there, there's no way those other idiots that call themselves doctors will be able to handle the wounded rolling in by the thousands. My God, is everyone else crazy or is it just me loosing my mind.
Svetlana, my new nurse, fell asleep in the clinic again. Worked late night treating the fire victims from last month. She shows promise, I was wrong about her. But she's wrong if she thinks I'll take a nicer attitude now. I can brake her or make her the best nurse there is. A risk I'm willing to take. Those crazy Russians, the harder you handle them, the more they are able to do.

Leutnant Klaus Heinkel von Fürstenberg, assistentartz

[Betonov]

October 20th 1852, I wish I knew where, I can't read Turk

I like this war. I'm payed more than Praha, I'm going places, as Gendarmerie they even gave a horse so I don't have to walk.
We crossed Sava a week ago. Three bridges were identified for crossing and the army split into thirds to cross with cavalry scouting ahead. I was assigned to the western bridge in Gradiška, I believe, to keep an eye on the population when the army crossed. The poor souls didn't even know there's a war on. Declaration was issued almost two month ago and they found it out from us when we crossed the river. Border guards greeted us like we're merchants and were taken prisoner without a struggle.
Now I'm camped somewhere in Bosnia. A whole weeks march and not one enemy soldier encountered. Reports say that Radetzkys march was similar and Bihać fell without a shot fired. He's moving towards Sarajevo and we're digging in, waiting for III. Armee to reinforce us. Well, the army is digging in, I'm hunting deserters. There's a lot of them.

Eugen Liška, Korporal, II. Armee




http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/portraits/hess.jpg

Feldmarshall Heinrich Freiherr von Heß, commander II. Army, invasion of Bosnia

[Betonov]

Beton Tzu
http://i.imgur.com/TkRGTb8.jpg?1
The art of war
industrial update edition

I.
A good commander studies tactics,
An armchair general forgets about logistics

Traindivisions (those icons with a supply wagon) are not an abstract show of a supply line, they actually carry supplies. Armies use the supply in the supply chain made by your railways/towns/depots. They will start using the supply carried by the supply train if your supply chain is either broken, overextended or cannot cope with the size of the army.

Depots attract more supplies than towns and are advisable per every 3-5 provinces, as towns only supply chain will not cope. Railroads dramatically increase the depot supply gain.

One should have two units made with a couple of supply trains and a cavalry unit for each army on the move and rotate them between the advancing army and a depot.


II.
An army marches on it's stomach
And soldiers eat sitting down

The Austrian ''Blitzkrieg'' into Bosnia failed, because an army fighting or moving looses cohesion. Less cohesion, more attrition, desertation and less strength. Radetzkys I. Armee took Bihać without a shot fired, but strenght went from 1200 to 300 due to cohesion loss and the attack on Sarajevo was postponed due to fear of high casualties or a destructive counterattack, all due to low cohesion.
Cohesion is regained by resting.

[Oberon]

Christ, so you actually have to manually take supplies from depots to the armies?

Epic micro-management... :doh:

[Betonov]

Christ, so you actually have to manually take supplies from depots to the armies?

Epic micro-management... :doh:

Only when the automated supply chain can't keep up

[Betonov]

November 22nd 1852, Zhirovnica

My son Anton was born yesterday. I have an heir for my blacksmith workshop. Father in law already gave me a hard time about sending him to an engineer school so he can become an industrialist. Good thing I was too drunk to hit him.
My wife is a bit to emotional. She goes on that a child born in times of war is a sign of bad luck. No, having a father in law like mine is a sign of bad luck. Plus, the newspapers say we're winning.
Back to the inn to buy another round. Na zdravje

Janez Kovač, a father

[Betonov]

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~andycoates/times.gif
December 12th 1853


The war between the Ottoman Empire and Austria reaches it's 3rd month and military doctrine dictates that armies winter the cold months with reduced operations. But according to our own field correspondent William Howard Russel, Austrian general staff has plans to take Sarajevo in the following weeks.

I arrived in Bosnia on the 6th of December and joined the first Austrian army under Joseph Radetzky, the hero of the Italian wars of 1848. What I saw was not an army ready to winter, but ready to move...A map sketch was sent as Russel gathered information among the soldiers in the camp. It appears that the war will go according to, what was identified by Whitehall, as Kriegsplan Ost II (war plan east II) with one army taking Sarajevo and the other cutting Bosnia from the rest of the Ottoman Empire and take a defensive stance in Zvornik

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Russel also added
Both Armies met absolutely no resistance when the war started, but most brigades are undermanned. Desertions are a problem as I made a few contacts inside the camp and I can't find half of them already. There is no explanation for the massive desertions as supplies are not a problem and winter uniforms arrived in time for the rains. One can think that the multi-ethnic composition of Austrian conscripts works against the army. Is it possible that the endless manpower pool the Austrian Empire was always feared for, nothing but a ticking time bomb of revolts and future wars of independence??And
Cohesion is also atrocious. Officers all speak German. Soldiers speak a mix of slav, magyar, polish and czech languages. I'm surprised they managed to point the entire army in the right direction...
The population, made mostly of muslim peasants, seems indiferent to the Austrian occupation. Austrians are viewed as neither conquerors nor liberators. I tried to get some information from the populace, but language barriers and suspiciousnes to foreigners made it impossible. Perhaps I'll have better luck in Sarajevo.http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/be/Williamhowardrussell.jpg/800px-Williamhowardrussell.jpg
William Howard Russel in Bosnia

[Raptor1]

Proclamation de l'Empire

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Four years ago, France once more threw down its monarchy and established just democratic rule. However, the principles of the new Republic were soon sabotaged by oligarchs and tyrants, who sought to limit the power of the common people. The laws established by the National Assembly proved that it was no longer acting its role as the legislative body of the French Republic, but rather as a corrupt organization determined to hold its power over the people at all costs. This subversion of the ideals of the nation could not be allowed to continue.

The failure of the old National Assembly to act decisively in the interests of the people of France cannot be forgiven. Its attempts to limit the powers invested in the president, chosen by the French people, and the very rights of the French people to democracy cannot be forgiven. The dissolution of the Assembly was, however, but the first step to the restoration of just rule to France. A simple continuation of the constitution of 1848 would allow nothing but a repeat of these issues. It has become clear that drastic changes had to be made to the very foundations of the government, and the popular referendum issued last month has decisively shown the support of the French people on this matter. In these troubled times of conflict, France can no longer allow its will to be misguided by those who would put their own interests over those of the people and the nation.

Therefore, in the name of the people of France, I hereby decree the abolition of the old Republic of 1848, and the proclamation of the new French Empire, to replace its weakness with glory.

Vive la France!

His Imperial Majesty Napoleon III,
By the Grace of God and the will of the nation, Emperor of the French

[Betonov]

June 30th 1852, Zhirovnica

Nearly had a heart attack. Still catching my breath. One should not receive a letter with an imperial eagle during wartime, I was certain I'm being drafted. The entire Kolar family sons were sent to Bosnia only 2 weeks ago.
No, the letter I received brings me excellent news. The finally started building the railroad in Istria and I've been ordered to start producing rail spikes and various equipment. I just need to keep this quiet from my father in law. He's already more and more here, talking to my son about how he's going to become an English engineer. I wish he'd get drafted

Janez Kovač, blacksmith

[Betonov]

http://i.imgur.com/H2FFz0U.png?1


FALL OF SARAJEVO


Not waiting for the Holly dinner our troops have received on the frontlines to cool, Radetzky made a daring dash for the Ottoman town of Sarajevo and captured it in a short battle on the 27th of December, 1852. The battle itself was led by Count von Heß, commanding the II. Armee moving to fortify the bottleneck of Zvornik. No reason was given for this change in command, apart from the ongoing rumors of von Radetzkys health problems since the start of the campaign.

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Austrian losses were negligible, the Ottoman defenders manages to retreat, but their route has been cut off by von Heß. Surrender should follow in the following days.

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Sarajevo


Eugen-Franz Kriegelstein, our own journalist, inspired by the Times William Howard Russel, will reach the Bosnian front by the end of January and we will have first hand reports of this war.

Gott erhalte unser Kaiser

[Raptor1]

Le Moniteur Universal
February, 1853

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Napoleon III's Imperial Guard at Montpellier

Newly crowned Emperor Napoleon III gave a speech in front of the French Parliament, in which he announced that he has issued Abdülmecid, Sultan of the Ottoman Empire, a declaration of French protectorate over Ottoman possessions in Tripolitania and parts of the Middle East.

Napoleon asserted that the Ottoman Empire's invasion of Greece two years ago, a conflict which still rages, was the last attempt by the Ottoman Empire to restore itself from its slow decline, and that its failure to achieve success, followed by Russian and Austrian invasions has resulted in a cycle that will eventually lead to the Empire's downfall into anarchy. In his speech, the Emperor mentioned the recent Fezzan raids on Tunisia as an example of the threat caused by the disintegration of Ottoman authority in these territories: "The sick man of Europe has demonstrated its inability to maintain order within the borders it claims. It has failed to protect its own citizens and its instability now directly threatens the people of France. It is the French Empire's duty to protect its interests from the repercussions of the Turk's decadence."

The Emperor assured the Parliament that he did not wish for a full-scale war between France and the Ottoman Empire, but that he will not hesitate to use armed force if necessary. "This is not a declaration of war. However, should the Sultan elect to contest the French Empire's rights to protect its interests and people, he is welcome to view it as such." Rumours have spread that the Mediterranean Fleet left Toulon early last month carrying a large part of the Imperial Guard.

Reactionary elements have decried these actions as unwarranted warmongering, and as further proof that the foundation of the new Empire was merely the first step in the fulfillment of Napoleon III's personal ambitions for renewed Bonapartist expansionism. Further accusations targeted the Emperor's sudden declaration as a rash overreaction to Persia's recent confiscation of French assets, and that its primary objective is merely to set up a future punitive expedition against Persia. The government has refused to comment on these accusations.

[Betonov]

Beton Tzu
http://i.imgur.com/TkRGTb8.jpg?1
The art of war
industrial update edition

III.
If you don't have something to fight for
you shouldn't bother the Turks

I guess I'm going to loose this war since I can't demand Bosnia in a peace deal. Looks like you must have a territory CB before you declare war. I received my CB for Bosnia after the war started and I still can't demand it. I occupy the entire Bosnia and still have no option to demand it.

I'll push into macedonia and see what happens next. I'll demand a liberation of Bosnia or just white peace out and re-declare.

[Betonov]

http://i.imgur.com/fp0Bxag.jpg?1


August 30th, on route to Sophia

This is not good. The war is bringing the worst out of nationalist and anarchist. With the army tied up somewhere in the Ottoman empire everyone gained the courage to start agitating. This assassination attempt was only the tip of the iceberg. A colleague of mine was also stabbed by an anarchist. In the arm luckily. Let's hope the empire won't implode soon.
And to top it off, some Herr Himmelvogel from Prussia came to the army camp and started yelling about how evil the Ottomans are and that we should burn Istanbul to the ground. Nearly caused a riot before we managed to get him in the stockade.

Eugen Liška, Feldgendarmerie, II. Armee

[Betonov]

''For Gods sake, take what they have to offer. Austria does not need a Napoleon in Russia scenario''
~Marshall von Heß to von Buol, after receiving word that foreign minister von Buol will receive an Ottoman delegation

[Betonov]

http://i.imgur.com/H2FFz0U.png?1
5. Januar 1854, Wien


War is over, Ottomans admit defeat


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3b/1879-Ottoman_Court-from-NYL.png

Continuous offensives and pressure from the other powers force the once mighty Ottomans to arrive at the gates of Wien once again. Not as conquerors but as a defeated power. Our merciful Emperor grants them peace in return for war reparations and an increased influence of Austria in the Balkans.
The Austrian army returns back victorious and wiser. A new world is dawning and new kinds of wars await Europe and Austria is prepared. Reforms will be needed nevertheless.
The rumors that the Austrian army was on the verge of collapse is nothing more than mere anarchist propaganda.


Completion of the Imperial rail line


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The last spike was driven into the ties just a few days before new year in a small coastal town of Monfalcone thus completing the Imperial line connecting Milano with Krakow, Budapest with Prag and all of them to the Imperial capital of Wien. Our Great Emperor sent a delegation with the most honorable prime minister Karl Ferdinand von Buol and interior minister Alexander von Bach. The final spike was blessed by our great Emperor Himself.
Von Buol also remarked how he was singing a peace treaty with the Ottomans a few days earlier and now he's on his way to Milano for a vacation, a trip that would take a week just a few years earlier.


A new year message from the Emperor

My dear subjects, behind us are the 1852 and 1853 years of war and economic stagnation. We start 1854 with peace and an economy picking up speed. We are truly blessed and We will make sure that Austria remains the center of Europe for the next half a milllenia.

Kaiser Franz Joseph I.

[HunterICX]

Karl Wilhelm von Willisen retires
http://i.imgur.com/HYgk0tA.jpg

After having served a very long carreer in the Prussian Military starting in the No 21 ''Duke of Brunswick'' Regiment after a very interesting carreer where he was captured a deserter for not returning to service for the Austrian Army, took part in the Napeleonic battles of 1813/14 wrote a few books that opposed the views of Carl von Clausewitz.

But the defeat that left the Schleswig-Holstein army he commanded broken and that last high note on his career made him decided it was time to resign.

[Betonov]

Since the most blessed Emperor needs some hunting vacations in the Alps, the Empire will be run by the most honorable British prime minister.

In short, I'll be gone until saturday and since there's really nothing exciting happening in Austria, I find no reason to pause the game for the rest.
Oberon will play my turn. Already talked with him.

[Oberon]

THE TIMES

Monday 7th August 1854


ALEXANDRIA TAKEN


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Field Marshall the Viscount Hardinge leads his men into the battered fort of Iskenderiye.

The Egyptian port city of Alexandria was captured by British forces late last week in a stunning battle lead by Viscount Hardinge. Some forty-four hundred enemy combatants surrendered to our men with just over 900 casualties suffered by our forces. A small gunboat sortied from the harbour soon after but was forced back to surrender by our waiting fleet.
With the Union flag flying over the city of Alexandria, the rest of Egypt lies ready for civilization to be brought upon it by our brave men.



http://i.imgur.com/1ZlzNwL.jpg?1

[HunterICX]

To avoid going too much Off Topic on a different thread and breathe more life int othis one:

^Well, explains the reorganizing of your whole army the other day in our Pride of Nations game. :O:
I'd tell you about it, but I don't want a Könnigsgratz in 1855 :O:

What? you affraid of me or those pesky Italians :D

[Betonov]

What? you affraid of me or those pesky Italians :D

I'm affraid of the maniac mode Prussia goes into when Bismarck arrives :O:
But then again, there are also secret deals possible to prevent a Prussian war :03:

Speaking of Italians. I wonder what would happen with the French support of Piedmont if I wipe them off the map :hmmm:

[HunterICX]

I'm affraid of the maniac mode Prussia goes into when Bismarck arrives :O:

I think I'll have a lot of those important messages saying in red
''I resign you hear me? I quit, I'm Done!!!''
Forcing me to accept something to appease him :haha:


But then again, there are also secret deals possible to prevent a Prussian war :03:It would be crazy to go to war about some...misunderstanding, if we just sat down sometimes and talked then our weapons can point to someone else more worth our time. :D

[Oberon]

then our weapons can point to someone else more worth our time. :D

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[HunterICX]

You just stay out of my colonies, haven't you got enough already?! :O:

[Oberon]

I'm just annoyed I couldn't grab Egypt yet...then again, Cecil Rhodes is still a kid so the Cape to Cairo plan is a bit premature.

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000UKr8Tv_lYEg/s/900/720/Imperialism-Africa-Colonialism-Imperialism-Cartoons-Punch-1899-03-22-139.jpg

[Betonov]

http://i.imgur.com/yyySEb0.jpg

[Oberon]

:har: :yeah: That's pretty much spot on. :yep:

[Oberon]

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[Betonov]

I shudder when I think of the mayhem herr Mustache will unleash on Europe.

The game is going to get fuuuuuuuuuun :D

[HunterICX]

http://i.imgur.com/z98kfyb.png

[Betonov]

The scutlebutt is that a new player has joined the fray :03:

http://i.imgur.com/Mqih9F6.jpg?1

[Respenus]

http://www.effedieffe.com/images/stories/foto2009/cavour_vittorio_emanuele.jpg

---

The Savoyard Royal Court first thought that the news of Cavour and Victorio Emmanuel II finally emerging from their drunken revel was an April Fool's joke, but apparently the Kingdom will once again be put under some sort of governance.

After spending the past three years drinking their kingdom's fine wines and decking themselves with bling, a groggy Camillo and Victorio finally popped from their "man cave" and ordered something for their headaches. When an aid responded that there is nothing to be found, the King shouted back: "Then go get me some coffee from Africa, you fool!" His order became the basis for Italian colonial ambition in the Horn of Africa.

Their second order to business was to get some more stuff to drown/crown their sorrows in/with. After they were informed that the stocks are low, Cavour ordered a complete re-examination of Piedmont's industrial and commerce policy, ensuring that there was plenty of everything, while shutting down those industries that contributed little to the economy. In his enthusiasm, he also halved all national taxes, after one of his buddy industrialists complained that they have no money to produce more "party essentials". The King even decided to try and stop child labour. Thus was born future Italy's economic policy.

Realising that they need to sell what little they had to improve their "prestige", Cavour send out every diplomat they had to neighbouring countries to improve relations (and hopefully get a nice trade agreement in the process).

Some in the diplomatic circles even spoke of a future Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation between Italian states, but those are nothing but vicious rumours spread around by Austrian agents, Hell bent on delegating Savoy to the dustbin of history.

---

I hope that my writing somewhat matches the less serious style espoused by the players of The Great Game. I will also be preparing a short tutorial on the management of your national economies (with an embargo on Austrian students) in the next few days.

[HunterICX]

:D Great start.

Tutorials are always welcome (some of us think that we have the slightest idea what we're doing:haha:) and someone clean up the spilled drink and glass Austria just dropped or this floor will get sticky.

As for styles I tend to be a bit full of myself when I have something report from within the game in the most Prussian way I can imagine you know pompous, knowing it better and a lot of self importance. At least I try to make it sound like that but still have to get used to writing AAR reports especially flavouring it up with a bit of a tongue in cheek way of an approach.

[Betonov]

Bah, we Austrians drink first and then drop glasses to the floor :smug:

Good Teran and Refosk is not something we waste

And welcome to the fray Respenus :up:
And don't worry, I'm here to play the game, no grudges will be held if Austria gets steamrolled (this game is so historic I'll loose Milano even if I burn Turin to the ground)

[Oberon]

Africa?

http://www.thinkbluela.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Lawn-01.jpg

It's bad enough I've got baguettes and sauerkraut ruining my tea-time without pasta being added into the mix! :O::O::O:

But yes, welcome to the game, just watch out for those French, I swear they're plotting something... :hmmm:

[Respenus]

Today I almost became the shortest reigning monarch in Italian history. After serving me dutifully and without fail for almost 5 years and 25.000 hours, my laptop's graphics card went kaput. After troubleshooting for 6 hours and trying to get it back up and running, I could only come to the conclusion that it has failed.

Fortunately, the laptop comes with an Intel integrated graphics processor and that one is luckily still in working order. While not great for general gaming, it can run 2D games (which I prefer) and with PoN working, I can continue with the game. But damn, this was too close for my liking. For some people, it is their motherboard or their CPU that fails, for me, it has always been graphic cards or fans.

Well, enough moaning, I have an empire to carve out :O:

[Oberon]

Take the pasta out of the cooling fan. :nope:

[Betonov]

Early May was always a pleasant month in Vienna. The capital of an Empire was never neglected. Streets were swept, parks were green and every house had flowers blooming on window sills. But something was in the air. A silent tension, un-noticed by the average city dweller or visitor.

Hans Prozwan, the Vienna station master noticed it. He noticed everything. He worked his entire life in the gateway of Vienna. Before the railroad he was an experienced coach master and as soon as the iron horse got its place in the Empire, he was personaly picked to run the station. He knows every arrival and departure of anyone worth noting. And the last few days caught his attention.
Every commander in the Empire arrived in the capital. Nothin new there. Von Hess has his wife in Vienna, Radetzky had frequent rummy games with fellow noblemen and war games were at least twice a year. But the lack of pomp gave it away that something was different this year.

The Habsburgs were full of themselves and anyone favoured by the crown never arrived without a kings welcome. Nearly cost Colonel von Augsperk his marriage when a 30 men march band avaited him when he visited his mistress. Radetzky, the hero of Novara arrived with only a guard detachment in plain clothes to greet him. Hans also had a small talent. He knew how to read people. He knew that the 20 men that boarded the special train to Venice were diplomats. He knew that they were given instructions by the Emperor Himself. He knew that they werent on a delegation they would not enjoy.

Cold chills went down his spine. He remembered a similar tension he witnesed as a young porter nearly 50 years ago. The silent arrival of generals, the dashing of diplomats and less than a year later, the French marched in.

[Respenus]

Cooking up something nice for me, Betonov? Don't forget to add tomatoes and Mediterranean spices!

[Betonov]

Cooking up something nice for me, Betonov? Don't forget to add tomatoes and Mediterranean spices!

Austria has no teritorial claim in Italy. We only wish to keep Northern Italy in the hands of those that know how to rule and Empire.
The land is far to fertile and rich to be ruled over by some Savonian tribal chiefs.

[Respenus]

We still have a long way to go and History can be a cruel mistress. So why don't you add some nice factories to Milano and Venice? You know, to improve your fertile north Italian lands. :D

[Betonov]

We still have a long way to go and History can be a cruel mistress. So why don't you add some nice factories to Milano and Venice? You know, to improve your fertile north Italian lands. :D

I'll do that, Italians need to start learning the arts of Germanic efficiency somewhere.
God knows what will spring up if there's no Austrian guidance. A FIAT factory ???

[HunterICX]

I'll do that, Italians need to start learning the arts of Germanic efficiency somewhere.
God knows what will spring up if there's no Austrian guidance. A FIAT factory ???

You want your expatriates to commit suicide?
I'd give them 1 minute into the introductions with the local populace before they start looking for the highest building/tower to jump down from.

[Betonov]

You want your expatriates to commit suicide?
I'd give them 1 minute into the introductions with the local populace before they start looking for the highest building/tower to jump down from.

Good idea to lower nationalistic agitation :hmmm:

[Respenus]

The Italian School of Economics


Money supply

Pride of Nation's economy is quite different from any other similar strategy games (especially for those accustomed to Victoria or other Paradox titles). The first major element of divergence are the dual money supplies. As statism had not yet been invented at that point in time, state money is gained through taxation at far lower levels than we know today. Furthermore, state funds can only be used to purchase military equipment or to support certain policies offered to you through the many F screens.

You thus have to rely on private capital in order to support and build the "real" economy, so if you overtax or mismanage the private sector, you entire country will feel the sting (especially with a major hit to the happiness levels of certain provinces, which lowers production efficiency and can lead to revolts). Now, I cannot recommend the appropriate level of taxation for each of your specific countries, so you will have to experiment, but a census tax will always cause happiness hits unless you have reduced it practically to zero.

Macro-economic management

Now we come to the most paradoxical (pun not intended) part of PoN's economic system. Running your economy requires both at the same time high levels of micro-management and letting the game run on auto.

The reason behind this is that despite its complexity, you can still game the system into providing you the maximum benefits possible. You have four screen to help you with that. A quick overview, which you should check each turn, is the Assets Balance screen ('B'). Its nice graphs allow you to ascertain the current and future levels of certain resources and whether or now you will hit critical lows (the square flashes red). You can also use it to quickly increase or decrease your purchase of a specific good by 10 units (left click to increase, right to decrease). The system will automatically choose the trade zone that you have access to and with the least amount of competing requests (ie. where you are most likely to get the goods).

The second screen is the Industry and Commerce screen (F4). This is an insane overview of every product that you can use or produce in the game and see what is happening with it during the current turn, the previous 10 turns and what will (most likely) happen to it during the next turn. I only check this screen if absolutely necessary, as it is a major headache, useful only during the micro-management part.

The third and last important scree is the Economic structures info (F11). This was added to the game in one of the patches after requests for a simple way of seeing all of the production structures in your country. You can see all your factories and farms or you can focus on a particular good that is used either as an input or output (production) in a specific structure. This screen is mostly useful for micro-management or if you wish to find the location of a certain factory.

Industry & Commerce

Now we come to the most complex part of the economic management of your country, the nexus of industry and commerce. The first thing you should do is cancel ALL TRADES. The simplest way to do this is to use the Assets balance screen and reduce all purchases to zero. Then you should press 'T' over your country's different trade zones and reduce all sales to zero.

Now that you have "reset" your economy to its most basic level, you will have to spend a lot of time in the Assets balance screen. If there are any critical goods, such as coal and manufactured goods that you need for the economy to function, make certain to sell them. Do not forget that the purchases are made with private capital, so the more you buy, the less you have to spend to invest into future production. If you are especially low on cash, you can manually set the trade requests in specific trade zones, so that you will only buy to maintain a stockpile balance.

After you are done with that, stay on the Assets balance screen to see which of your goods are going to increase in size. If your stockpile will increase for a good that is in high demand (you will see few markets offering them, often with far higher demand than supply), such as luxury goods and rare products (wine, coffee, sugar, etc.), go to your national trade zone and press 'T' (you may have several, depending on your size) and set the sales to whatever is needed to maintain a balanced stockpile (if you have a lot of such goods that you do not use, you can always sell more to decrease the stockpile to a more "natural" size). The Assets screen will automatically adjust the graphs, so that you can quickly tell how your goods stock will adjust to a specific trade policy.

For goods that are in massive supply, but have little demand, I recommend that you do no attempt to sell them (unless you have a trade agreement with a buyer, as it makes it more likely they will buy from you). At this point, you have to go to the F11 screen and deactivate the surplus production sites (you naturally sell some units of each product on your national market or is consumed by another structure, so you have to pay attention to this as well). This will save you capital and perhaps some other goods, but the quantities are not as high as to demand a new "economic rebalancing".

Another thing to keep an eye on is the national market, which is only accessible through the F4 screen. In your micro-management, you have to keep in mind that your people need to eat and use some common (and also luxurious goods) goods. However, you can regulate how much of each you will sell on your national market by left clicking (increase the amount available by 5%) and right clicking (decrease by 5%) on the icon of each good.

Overview

The basic gist of the economy in PoN is the one as old as mankind: sell high, buy low. The only difference is that you can achieve a decent measure of self-sufficiency within your own country, although thanks to comparative advantages, you may be doing your overall economy a disservice. But, focusing on your national market and trading only valuable surplus goods with foreign countries, is an easy, quick and decent way of managing your economy.

I remain at your disposal for any other questions you may have. If you have the time and inclination, you can check the "Manufacturing Italy (http://ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?28767-Manufacturing-Italy-%28a-PoN-GC%29/)" AAR, which contains a nice, illustrated guide to many of principles I presented here.

Have fun!

[Betonov]

After the Austrian inteligence rewied the captured Italian Economics Guide, the Emperors advisors came to a conclusion that they're clueless and should hide it from the Emperor in fear of getting sacked (or hanged) since idiotism has been outlawed in the Empire.

Good one Respenus, I didn't know a lot of the things you pointed out :up:
(moving another 5 corps into Lombardy)

[Oberon]

It can help, say every game month, just having a look at the factories screen and temporarily closing factories which aren't producing any profit. Your fat-cats will thank you for this, but eventually the factories might start making a profit again so you'll need to open them up again.

At the moment I'm doing great with state funds, over 10k, but my capitalists are being rather disappointing and only have about 1500. :hmmm: Then again, I do keep spending their ill-gotten gains on tea farms...because if I run out of that...it's all over.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zACeJXfnpEE/TkA9KQX4JuI/AAAAAAAAAPA/U5iNxIhtHQ8/s1600/Victorian_Mobs_Riots.jpg

[HunterICX]

Great just when I thought I kind of sorted my Economy it seems I still have so much to learn. :haha:
Well...time to go to step 1...again.:D

Nice tutorial and well explained :yep::up:

[Betonov]

And so August of 1855 shall go down in history as the month all powers of the world decided to have a big trade reform for no aparent reason

[Respenus]

Thanks for your kind words guys, but don't forget that the economic plan I presented is very, VERY austere and can, in the long run, cause major problems.

While PoN fortunately does not simulate unemployment and its social effects, you do need certain goods to your population happy. This means that you will be forced to import not only expensive items such as luxury goods, wines and gold, but also basic stuff such as fruit, coffee, tea, sugar, etc, etc. This becomes all the more apparent as consumption by your population increases with certain technologies (each increasing consumption by 20% and with several of them, you can quickly double on what you need each month).

As such, my proposals are good to get your economy under control and to maximize private capital accumulation, but they are not the start all, end all of economic policies in PoN. As I said, the game requires both a lot and little micro-management at the same time.

[Oberon]

Just saw this on facebook, thought it relevant:

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[Respenus]

With two Slovenians on the team, such jokes are bound to go down badly (having lost a third of our people to the Italians and having been among the first victims of fascism).

A nice enough polandball (and funny), however it wasn't the Entente that reneged on the London Treaty, it was the Italians who took what they wanted and had to be stopped by the French and British before they took even more (we still got them at Kobarid, though).

[Oberon]

No offense intended, although to be fair I'm British, if I'm not offending someone then I'm probably invading them. :03:

[Betonov]

The only time a bad joke about Italians is going to go badly is with Italians present. For us they are the bad joke and only offensive when one of them is present.
A limey/jerry/yenki making jokes is OK

[Respenus]

@Oberon

No offence taken :) I just wanted to point it out, as the majority of the Western world seems to have collective amnesia as to what Italians did in the interwar and war periods.

@Betonov

I could not have put it better myself.

[Betonov]

@Betonov

I could not have put it better myself.


I could, but that would be breaking forum rules.

Slovenes are in my opinion hard people to offend. Anger yes, we might be a little more jumpy but not really long term offended.
Even with Italians, we are not that much bitter from WW2, it's their arrogant attitude, abhorent driving, uncivilised shouting and total mockery of cuisine that offends us today. They don't tip and pillage Slovene forests for mushrooms every autumn.
We forgave the Germans, Italians simply remind us every time why we used to hate them.

[Oberon]

Personally, I blame the French. :yep:

[Betonov]

Sacre bleu

http://new1.fjcdn.com/comments/4979559+_166299cb1698fda2012956be80cc141d.jpg

[HunterICX]

Personally, I blame the French. :yep:

I blame the Germans.:hmph:

[Raptor1]

I blame the Germans.:hmph:

I blame the Ottoman Empire.

[Oberon]

http://i.imgur.com/7SzS0Me.jpg?1

:hmmm:

http://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/ED-AO139_stevem_G_20110825162903.jpg

[Oberon]

Speaking of Reagonom...errr...Economics...

Is there any way to find out what the global supply and demand situation is like other than the monthly price variables? For example, I, as Britain, have access to a few mineral sites which I would like to develop but I want to know how well these minerals will sell on the international market and whether it's worth the expense and time to make the mines to export the minerals. :hmmm:

[Betonov]

You've got to speculate. :)

[HunterICX]

Also maybe the mineral itself may not be that profitable for the international market but the end product it'll be turned into by one of your factories might, so it may be worth the investment by a different route.

[Oberon]

You've got to speculate. :)

Also maybe the mineral itself may not be that profitable for the international market but the end product it'll be turned into by one of your factories might, so it may be worth the investment by a different route.

Gotcha both, still a bit of a pain in the arse that you can't see what the international market is doing and identify trends. :nope:

[Raptor1]

You can see the total amount of resources sold and total amount of resources requested in each trading region on the Assets Balance panel, which I think almost exactly amounts to hard numbers for supply and demand. That's probably the best way to figure out that sort of thing.

Or you can just go and burn down the mining operations of anyone who exports minerals leaving you the sole source of pyrite on the planet.

[Oberon]

Task Force is cheating, he's built tanks/landships already! :nope: :O:

http://i.imgur.com/17SIKQA.jpg?1

[Betonov]

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000Rxp6dPFBl00/s/600/480/HGW-PL040274D.jpg

[Betonov]

http://i.imgur.com/H2FFz0U.png?1
Wien, 12. Oktober 1856


Railroad expands to Klausenburg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/33/L%27Arriv%C3%A9e_d%27un_train_en_gare_de_La_Ciotat .jpg

Ruthenian capital is incorporated in to the iron grid. The last spike was driven on the 6. Oktober at the new Klausenburg station. Works will continue for another 6 months as the yard is completed and the nearby depot is connected. The mayor pointed out that this line will make Klausenburg the gateway to the east, the trading hub between Wallachia, Russia and Moldavia, making it as rich as the cities closer to Wien. He also issued a statement of condeming the opposition, saying that this railway is the proof The Empire cares about their eastern provinces and praised our Holy Emperor and his minister von Büol for the honor.


Rapid industrialization of Steiermark

http://brackenridge.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/No2pit1bw.jpg

The mineral wealth of Steiermark promted the most blessed Emperor to concentrate the Empires assets in making the province a steel powerhouse of Austria and Europe. The architect of the project, minister von Büol decided that the proximity of the heart of the Empire, ore sites and developed railway connections make it ideal for steel and steel products production.
Critisism was abound as some believe that such a slav province is not to be prioritized for industralisation. Von Büol responded by saying that it is more efficient to move products over the entire Europe than wagons of ore across the Empire.
Some of the inteligensia raised concern that such rapid growth will drive inflation up to which von Büol answered that the Empire has enough gold to fix such problems before they may cause damage.


Diplomatic tour of South America

http://www.gottschalk-pianist.com/img_cuba_1850c.jpg

The Imperial passenger ship Grossvenedig set sail today towards Columbia with a majority of the Austrian diplomatic core including von Büols personal assistant, count Richard Belcredi. The first stop of the tour is Caracas and should reach it by 20. Oktober.


Bountiful harvest of 1856

http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ld5e9dI39l1qexbp5o1_1280.jpg

The summer of 1856 was sunny with frequent rain and the harvest is above average. Interior minister Baron Alexander von Bach boldly remarked that the average yield was three times than that of the previous years and with correct distribution and storage we should prevent famines in the next decade, no matter the future weather.
The Austrian Empire has been truly blessed

[Oberon]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/37/A-J-Jaeger.jpg

http://www.genesontheweb.co.uk/exhibits/1858-jun-29-india-house-despatch-belgaum-dundee-perth-cupar-advertiser.jpg

https://cean.us/pol/src/14122627583.png

[Betonov]

Vienna is going to keep an eye out on this British war, taking notes should the slavs make an uprising.... I mean, should we have a similar problem if we decide to play the colonial game

[Respenus]

They say history is doomed to repeat itself. Have a look for yourself. First the Germans destroy Europe's economy in the 21st century, then in the 19th! Wait...what? :88)

http://i.imgur.com/JKHSPxd.png

[Oberon]

Meanwhile in India:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l_3-23zAWM

[Betonov]

They say history is doomed to repeat itself. Have a look for yourself. First the Germans destroy Europe's economy in the 21st century, then in the 19th! Wait...what? :88)



What happens now :hmmm:

[Oberon]

What happens now :hmmm:

The IMF bail out Prussia?

[Betonov]

A rapid unification of Germanic states, so Germany can exist to bail out Prussia

[HunterICX]

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/BA7PB9/schwartzkoppen-maximilian-von-1850-1917-prussian-officer-and-diplomat-BA7PB9.jpg

This is clearly Hannover's fault, they've recently violently and without any reason attacked Prussia's commerce by seizing the assets of our Fishing industry we had build in their province for both our Nation's benefits. This will not go without consequences but so far they have repelled our diplomats at their door who demand an explanation.

[Respenus]

A rapid unification of Germanic states, so Germany can exist to bail out Prussia

Yeah, remember that nice industrialisation drive you have going on? The whole economic re-balancing shtick that everyone did to make their economies work better? Kiss it all goodbye (OK, OK, I am exaggerating a bit).

One good news, however, is that this will have a strong negative effect on Prussia's economy, so everyone happy, right? Everyone will now support Italian unification because of our excellent economic policies, right? :D

Panic and Crisis
If a Panic occurs, the country suffers from economic crisis and endures several adverse and debilitating effects. It loses Prestige, loses at least £1000 of Private Capital, gains a lot of Inflation, and its population gains militancy and loses a lot of Contentment.

Crisis Spreads and Effects
Once a country starts to suffer from the crisis, it checks each turn for the effects on its economy. These effects include having the population become more militant, loss of some Private Capital, and reductions in Inflation (this last one is a positive effect).

Recovering from Crisis
In each country in crisis, the crisis must last for a minimum of at least 6 months before there is a possibility that it will end. The crisis ends first where it began – in the country that triggered the Panic.

[HunterICX]

One good news, however, is that this will have a strong negative effect on Prussia's economy, so everyone happy, right? Everyone will now support Italian unification because of our excellent economic policies, right? :D


http://i.imgur.com/St5itqd.jpg

[Respenus]

Hey, it is not Piedmont-Sardinia's problem that you were too stingy with your money. You should had invested more. Maybe a loan to my little kingdom to help in industrial construction would be in order, n'est pas? :O:

On a more serious note, @Betonov, have you been spending too much time on Polandball again?

http://i.imgur.com/lcAAUaL.png

[Oberon]

Well, considering my guys were the ones buying an empty barrel of petrol for £75 then I think a little economic crisis might improve things. :dead:

[Betonov]

:har:

I have a feeling that Slovenia would be behind it all when I saw a dead Croatia :har:

[HunterICX]

Hey, it is not Piedmont-Sardinia's problem that you were too stingy with your money. You should had invested more. Maybe a loan to my little kingdom to help in industrial construction would be in order, n'est pas? :O:


http://i.imgur.com/St5itqd.jpg

[Betonov]

I think Austria should give full acces rights to Prussia, before we have a southern Schlieffen used on us :o

[Raptor1]

I think the Ottoman Empire should be partitioned for its clear role in instigating this and any other crisis that may occur.

[Betonov]

And Wallachia needs to be anexed to Austria.

[Oberon]

Hunter...what have you done?!

http://i.imgur.com/qRRyeLV.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ITe0Moz.jpg

[HunterICX]

http://i.imgur.com/lAlr5cg.gif


No idea....

[Betonov]

We have evidence that the economic crisis was fabricated in Wallachia

http://i.imgur.com/GsB43qV.png
von Powzellsky shows a Wallachian dispatch to cells in Berlin

[Betonov]

http://i.imgur.com/H2FFz0U.png?1
Wien, 1st March 1857

Von Buol saves Austria from the economic crisis

http://www.wiener-weltausstellung.at/tl_files/Die%20Welt%20in%20Wien/Verlauf_Boersenkatastrophe.jpg

Guided by the Holly wisdom, our prime minister von Buol has prevented the economic crisis, a disease bred in Wallachia that first infected our brothers in Prussia.
In reaction to a stagerring 10% inflation that threatened to destroy our economy, our prime minister has ordered Special Befehl 54. A derelict frigate was loaded with 50 tons of coin and sunk in an undisclosed location. ''Removing large amounts of currency from the circulation is the best way to lower inflation'' was said during a press conference. There was some light unaproval in the private business class, but the general concensus was that a reduction of inflation takes precidence over a rapid growth.
Controversy still surounds whether there really was an involvement by Wallachia. Opposition is sceptical whether the reason behind this accusations are the news that Oil was discovered near Bucharest. Von Buol refused to comment.

[Respenus]

http://i.imgur.com/c4XtUtZ.png

Sardinia-Piedmont hit by Economic Crisis

The past few years of careful management have produced record growth and riches for the North Italian economy. However, the crisis that started in Prussia reached the farthest corners of the world and Sardinia-Piedmont could not escape it. With companies bankrupting, a minor bank was forced to close its doors, leading to loss of further capital.

Under severe pressure of the fledgling local industry, PM Cavour was forced to introduce measures to reduce inflation and give an extra boost to private citizens. This has reduced inflation, while bringing taxation to a historical low, threatening long-term public purse stability. When questioned about it after emerging from his drunken parties with the King, his response was "We'll just sell some of that South American gold".

Political and social reforms

In addition to economic reforms, some new political and economic policies were adopted in order to calm down the rising anger of the general population at the loss of their bank savings.

While the general electoral census will remain the same, the King and the PM have promised for the people to be "consulted" in case of constitutional reform in the future. "Being in the homeland of the Roman Empire, it is our solemn duty to uphold the values that made it great" the King said in a public speech. When an onlooker asked him if it was not indeed the Roman Empire that destroyed the democratic traditions of the Romans, Victorio Emmanuel II simply said "No-one likes a smartass!"

After banning child labour several years ago, the Goverment also decided to give schools books from which they could learn. Why they had not done so before, remains a mystery, although your valiant reports has heard that the mountains of booze and bling in from of the royal chambers have grown, not diminished as of late. Hopefully, the new military medals that have been orders will not be refurbished pots and pins from the aforementioned pile.

Colonialism

In order to get improve the economic situation and to reduce the demographic pressures on the country, a new wave of colonialism is under way. With the Horn of Africa under Italian control, the surrounding areas, as well as the currently unstable Libya will see waves of Italian merchants and tradesmen trying to make their fortune and bring riches back to their home country.

Diplomacy

The economic crisis was also responsible a minor diplomatic crisis. Columbia, trying to stabilise its economy, has nationalised one of the Sardinian mines in the country. Emmanuel II has sent a personal protest letter, while diplomats have been dispatched to other Latin American countries to show them that Sardinia-Piedmont is an important business partner and that if they wish to attract future investment, they should keep their greedy fingers to themselves or a "reverse-nationalisation" of economic properties will take place through a few well placed cannon shots.

[HunterICX]

http://i.imgur.com/6JMcNya.jpg

Confidence grows as crisis is over

Businessmen think it's safe to say that the worst is over and that the only way Prussia's economy will be going is upwards. The Market seems stable enough to spread this confidence to the Prussian people throughout the kingdom.

4. Armee in Königsberg on Alert!

It was made aware that the Russian territory bordering East Prussia has been in turmoil for quite some time but now openly a flag of rebellion has been raised over one of it's provinces and a large group of rebels seems to make an advance towards surrounding provinces starting with Litauen. If they dare to move towards the west the 4. Armee will stop them.

http://i.imgur.com/ppzLWRm.jpg?1

[Oberon]

Oh, one rebel, on the other side of the Russian border...how terrible for you...

Meanwhile in Britain:

https://new2.fjcdn.com/comments/5147553+_e808440006e004c8fe9f58bc1a1a5a5a.jpg

https://static1.fjcdn.com/comments/Does+anyone+have+the+gif+where+moss+is+at+his+_2e4 169cc259bebd4d4a490f18466b288.png

[Schroeder]

Confidence grows as crisis is over

Businessmen think it's safe to say that the worst is over and that the only way Prussia's economy will be going is upwards. The Market seems stable enough to spread this confidence to the Prussian people throughout the kingdom.

And then VW introduced some new software to it's Diesel cars.....:O:


:/\\!!

[Betonov]

http://i.imgur.com/H2FFz0U.png?1
Wien, 23 August 1857

Liberal agitation reaches boiling point

http://www.antiwarsongs.org/img/upl/reform_league_in_hyde_park-500x367.jpg

The liberal terrorists that have plagued Europe since the death of the Bonapartist menace have succeded to strike at the Empire with what is considered worse than bombs. They have managed to led astray the population of Westungarn and some other eastern province with fancy words and empty promises. The venom of liberalism is like sweet nectar to the un-educated subjects. The army, now acting as a knife in the hands of a skilled surgeon has been sent into Westungarn to remove the cancer before it infects more of the healthy body of the Habsburg domain.
Officials claim that the factories under strike shall resume normal work by the end of the next month.

Economy is blossoming amidst crisis

http://static.habsburger.net/files/styles/large/public/originale/perspektivische_ansicht_der_wiener_hofburg_19._jah rhundert_original_0.jpg

As the world reels from the economic crisis orchestrated by Wallachia, the Habsburg Empire, no doubtfully the original target for the Wallach troublemakers, enjoys a rise in the private sector, further encouraged by lower taxes. The wisdom of Von Buol is most certainly one of divine influence.
The riches of the Empire are flowing into Wien, keeping it's status as the jewel of Europe and the culture capital of the World.

Works started on the Tirol line

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/ap/c/c014115.jpg

By the decree of our Holy Emperor Himself, work has begun on the Tirol line. It's first phase will be to connect Klagenfurt and it's mineral riches at the head of the Alps.
The tirol line itself will run along the Alps and connect with the Lombard line in Milano thus increasing the reaction time of our armies should a crisis arrise in the west.

[Betonov]

I'll never understang why there's cotton in Krain in every paradox game.
I live there and in ym whole life I haven't seen one cotton plant, less alone a field

[Betonov]

Great, half of Austria is now on strike :/\\!!

[Betonov]

http://28.media.tumblr.com/X6pnpwdzPi3d3f1nppEZmgzio1_400.gif
Mein Kaiser, there is some strange black liquid to be found in Galizia

[Oberon]

http://i.imgur.com/jXhane5.jpg

https://media.riffsy.com/images/9c44d44c9e3559348fbe02a6c019ca38/raw

[Oberon]

Princess Victoria to marry Prussian Frederick III

http://lowres-picturecabinet.com.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/101/main/1/327279.jpg

Princess Victoria of Great Britain is set to marry Prussian royalty Prince Frederick. The Home Office announced that they were happy for the couple and were sure that this union would not produce a physically disabled gentleman with imperial ambitions that would help create a war that would plunge Europe into chaos and despair twice.

[Oberon]

http://i.imgur.com/ORfdsuH.jpg?1

http://www.laprogressive.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/dunce-cap.gif

[HunterICX]

http://i.imgur.com/l3c9RUm.png?1

Karl Anton Joachim Zephyrinus Friedrich Meinrad Fürst von Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen sporting a very German Moustache takes of as Prime Minister of Prussia replacing Otto Theodor von Manteuffel.

[Respenus]

http://i.imgur.com/5mrbGjQ.png

ITALIAN DIPLOMACY WORKS TO DEFUSE TENSIONS

Following Austrian attempts at fabricating a Casus Belli against the small and fledgling European nation of Piedmont-Sardinia, tensions escalated in Northern Italy.

http://i.imgur.com/KJTbd6G.png

The immediate response from the P-S government to Austrian provocation was for the Prime Minister to agitate for independence in Lombardy and Venice and called for all true-blooded Italians to join the cause of liberty and unification.

Following such statements, the Austrian government decided to send a second army to guard Venice, which in response has provoked troop movements in other major European nations.

In order to ensure that reason prevails among all actors involved, Italy has dispatched diplomats to Austria, Prussia and France in order to explain its position and to call for calm. The King of P-S, Vittorio Victorio Emmanuel II, has travelled to Vienna in order to assure the Austrians that P-S has no interest in stirring up troubles in their lands and that Cavour had a stern talking to in order to discourage him from making similar statements in the future. We do not yet know how the meeting went, but we are certain that he was well received with his gifts of finest Italian luxury products.

It is this reporters hope that the Italian nationalists in Lombardy and Venice will not take up the PM's words and attempt to rise up in arms against their benevolent Austrian masters in the future.

[Oberon]

http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/33264542/6/stock-illustration-33264542-victorian-man-and-woman-studying-a-map.jpg

"Sardinia-what?"
"I think it's somewhere in Southern America."

[HunterICX]

http://i.imgur.com/Pz4f5ox.jpg

Italian Agent provocateurs in Lombardy causing unrest, Sardinia Piedmont remains silent.

The Prussian governement has reason to believe after reports came in that agents have been send by the governement of Sardinia-Piedmont into Lombardy to rally the people to take up arms against the legitimate Austrian rule. Attemps have been made by the leaders of Austria to have Sardinia-Piedmont clarify their reason behind it and as they've remained silent it's clear that they're out to cause a conflict which would lead to war between these two Nations.

We'd hope that Sardinia-Piedmont will seize these acts of provocation and opens up a diplomatic dialogue with the Austrians so peace can be safeguarded in Europe.

[Betonov]

I has come to mine and the Emperors attention, that an increased nationalistic agitation spreading trough Lombardie may be either directly caused by Sardinia-Piedmont, or indirectly influencing nationalists with their dangerous ideas of unification.
Whatever the reason, it is clear that Sardinia-Piedmont is the main culprit and we cannot allow state sponsored agitation to tear the Empire apart or in anyway hamper the continuing rise in prosperity.
As the Empire has risen above the dark past of the middle ages, we will give diplomacy a chance. The Emperor will receive His Excelency king Vittorio Emanuel II to discuss the issue and I will receive the honored delegation from Prussia, no doubt to show they stand with us.
The beast of nationalism has spawned the Bonapartist menace a generation ago, we cannot allow another large scale European war. But we will not hesitate to stomp out the ember before it becomes a fire. Even if it means going to war.
Gott erhalte unser Kaiser

Ausenminister Karl Ferdinand von Buol


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-jDoSBNVbWMU/T712r0rxIyI/AAAAAAAAJ10/mCRoVDUCPD8/s290/imperialaustria.png

[Raptor1]

http://i.imgur.com/gvMH7dS.png

Emperor Comments on Austrian-Italian Crisis

The Emperor Napoléon gave a speech in front of the Parliament today regarding tensions between the Kingdom of Sardinia-Piedmont and the Austrian Empire. In his speech, the Emperor urged both parties to seek a peaceful solution to the dispute before it triggers an unnecessary war. Delegations have been dispatched to Vienna and Turin to make the French government's position on this matter clear. The Emperor added, however, that though France is overwhelmingly in support of a peaceful solution, the people of France could not stand idly by should the sovereignty of their Italian brothers be threatened by "unprovoked Habsburg aggression".

[Oberon]

http://i.imgur.com/9s6tCro.jpg

[Betonov]

:rotfl2:

[HunterICX]

:haha: Brilliant

[Respenus]

Italian School of Economics: Lesson Two (or How to Keep your Population Happy)


While this post may come to bite me in the behind in the long run, with all the strikes and riots you guys are experiencing, you need one additional lesson on how to manage your economies.

The previous lesson focused on how to make as much private capital as possible from your economies. Well guess what, people in the 19th century liked poverty and misery as much as anyone today (ie. not at all), so you need something sweet to keep them happy.

In additional to policies you have available in your F1 (government), F4 (economy) and F6 (social) screens that can help you reduce militancy and increase contentment, your citizens also have needs for specific products.

In the F6 screen, you can see how much each class of your society wants to buy from a specific product group (food, common and luxury goods). However, it is not enough to satisfy their quantitative needs, you also need to satisfy their qualitative needs, meaning that you need to have different types of goods from each category (for common goods, this would be textile, coffee, tea, wine, etc...).

Lastly, nothing brings up happiness on the national market as much as luxury goods. So while it makes good economic sense to sell these high value products on the world market, it makes better political and social sense to make the necessary amount available to your national market. You can decide how much of a product you make available by (left-/right-)clicking on the product icons in the F4 screen and the game will automatically tell you how much of a specific product you will sell.

To summarize: build luxury goods factories, build silk farms (France and Austria) or try to buy the necessary products on the international market.

Remember, working and functional economies benefit everyone!

[HunterICX]

Don't know who your informants are for Prussia but I would suggest you have them shot for providing false intel on the stability of Prussia. I'm not having any strikes or riots.

Think at most a long while ago 1 province had a months of riots and strikes which I managed after first sending in MP units, adjusting the internal market to provide more goods, providing more types of goods on the internal market by trade and the build of a few extra luxury goods factories.

So far all content levels are well above the 50 in the census.

[Betonov]

Lastly, nothing brings up happiness on the national market as much as luxury goods. So while it makes good economic sense to sell these high value products on the world market, it makes better political and social sense to make the necessary amount available to your national market. You can decide how much of a product you make available by (left-/right-)clicking on the product icons in the F4 screen and the game will automatically tell you how much of a specific product you will sell.



This is what puzzles me.
Every luxury on the trade screen is demanded less than I offer them.
Let's say I set my luxury production to give 120 crates (?) for the intenral market, but the people buy only 80, and they're still unhappy :doh:

[Oberon]

and they're still unhappy :doh:

They're Austrian...I mean, it's almost like being German except periodically you start a world war.

[Betonov]

They're Austrian...I mean, it's almost like being German except periodically you start a world war.

And Slovene, and Italian and Croatian and Czech and Slovak and Ukranian and Hungarian and Poles and Russian and Gypsy and Serb.

[Respenus]

I am confused as to how your population could continue to be so unhappy, Betonov. :hmmm:

But as I said, you need quantity and quality. You need to offer them luxury goods, gems and silk, all of which you have available. For example, I produce more than enough luxury goods (produced in factories), but no matter the level I set it to, the national market will only buy two of them, less than 20% of total demand for the item group.

If that does not work, try getting additional types of luxury goods, as well as pass additional reforms, or send MP units in rioting regions. Also, make certain that you offer different types of food and common goods as well. Coffee is important and is always in demand, but difficult to buy. Send a trade ship to Brazil's southern trading region (La Plata, I believe) and build a coffee plantation there. It only costs around 2000 capital to set it up. :wah:

[Betonov]

Ah, hvala :up:

It seems another trade reform is in order :dead:

[Oberon]

Meanwhile in Prussia:

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12803187_1511858082455975_7598846889198995489_n.jp g?oh=fcac36e66ca815dae15dd36b89a28fc5&oe=575644F8

[HunterICX]

He gets my vote :know:

[Betonov]

What, it's that time of the century already :o

[HunterICX]

Nah not yet, but in 3 years he'll become Prussia's foreign minister then another year later my Minister President and then....

http://i.imgur.com/FMBSXsf.jpg?1

[Oberon]

:hmmm:

http://i.imgur.com/ArpvIVi.jpg?1

[HunterICX]

Where did you get that! :stare:

[Oberon]

Where did you get that! :stare:

Hired a couple of investigators :03:

https://media.giphy.com/media/lHutWkV2EOFmo/giphy.gif

[Betonov]

C'mon, Sherlock is still a child in 1859 :O:

[Oberon]

So is Cecil Rhodes, but that's not stopping me trying to get this Cape to Cairo railway business done. :O:

[Respenus]

http://i.imgur.com/5mrbGjQ.png



PIEDMONT-SARDINIA CALLS FOR THE URGENT STABILISATION OF THE INTERNATIONAL COAL MARKET

Today, the minister of Trade of the Kingdom of Piedmont-Sardinia has published an open letter in all major European newspapers, calling for an international conference to resolve the massive shortages in coal supplies on the international markets.

In only a couple of weeks the coal market seems to have dried up completely, with massive competition from all around the globe for what few shipments still have not been allocated. With the closure of Austrian trade and the drying up of Scandinavian mines, North German and British production cannot keep up pace to demand. As a consequence, worldwide production that relies on the steady supply of coal has been put in danger, with unforeseen consequences for the already fragile world economy.

The Prime Minister, the Count of Cavour, has promised to use any and all resource his government has at its disposal in order to reach an international agreement. He has expressed hopes that fellow European leaders will see the wisdom in working together in stabilising the coal market, thus ensuring prosperity for all.

P-S embassies are to remain open at all times in order to facilitate communication during this time of crisis.

[Oberon]

I have no idea why there might be a coal shortage...

Now excuse me while I lay some more track for my trains...

http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/960e58c0a76144c994e909f68857dc56/three-home-railway-signals-guarding-a-track-next-to-a-coal-yard-a7wx5d.jpg

[Betonov]

I am obliged to remind Europe that half of Austrias coal mines are under strike and the blame is solely on Sardinia-Piedmont and their nationalistic agitation in Lombardie that spread like cancer over the rest of the Empire and Europe and mutated into its worst form as liberal agitation.
The blessed Emperor himself has given me full authority over the matter and I will personaly make sure that the Empire cooperates fully with the other powers in resolving the issue but we will also keep an integrity in our own interests as we will only export what the Empire does not need.
Look towards Torino for your culprit and look towards Wien for the solution.

Gott erhalte unser Kaiser

Aussenminister
Karl Ferdinand von Büol

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[HunterICX]

North German and British production cannot keep up pace to demand.

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[Oberon]

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[Oberon]

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TASK FOOOOOOOOOOOORCE!!

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[HunterICX]

http://i.imgur.com/XVow7KT.gif

YOU ARE TEARING ME APART, TASK FORCE!

Well hopefully it won't spread across the pond.

in other news I would like to talk about the African colonies and how one makes a claim on a piece of territory but all I hear are two loud obnoxious seagulls one of them is French the other is British shouting constantly ''Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine!''

http://i.imgur.com/13QfS9R.jpg?1

Ok Ok.. joke aside, I guess as Prussia I just have one mayor disadvantage in this theater but can't help to see Both France and Britain lay claims and absorbing these territories into their empires/nation like each turn or so or at least claiming them that is.
Is that some decision? how does one obtain those or what are the conditions to trigger such event? and is playing Prussia the colonial game made more difficult?

[Raptor1]

Well hopefully it won't spread across the pond.

Too late.

Ok Ok.. joke aside, I guess as Prussia I just have one mayor disadvantage in this theater but can't help to see Both France and Britain lay claims and absorbing these territories into their empires/nation like each turn or so or at least claiming them that is.
Is that some decision? how does one obtain those or what are the conditions to trigger such event? and is playing Prussia the colonial game made more difficult?

As far as I know, Prussia isn't considered a colonial power until it unifies Germany, at which point it gets access to all the colonial decisions including the ones allowing it to declare protectorates and colonies.

[Oberon]

I think you need to have enough colonial penetration before you can make it officially a colony or so forth. With Angra you're at a bit of a disadvantage because you're right slap bang next to the giant hulk that is British South Africa so there's a fair bit of British influence leaking over the borders there, however you are ahead of me in terms of loyalty, but I have a greater Colonial Penetration, but only by 5% so you'll probably overtake me on that soon.
If you're good, I'll let you keep it. :O:


YOU ARE TEARING ME APART, TASK FORCE!

Well hopefully it won't spread across the pond.


http://i.imgur.com/vSlQG6N.jpg?1

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EDIT: Damn French Ninjas!

[HunterICX]

As far as I know, Prussia isn't considered a colonial power until it unifies Germany, at which point it gets access to all the colonial decisions including the ones allowing it to declare protectorates and colonies.

Suspected as much, thanks for clearing that up. :up:
I have some decisions but suspected that I didn't have all of them...yet.


If you're good, I'll let you keep it. :O:

but..ofcourse!
http://i.imgur.com/8vBrlcm.png?1

[Betonov]

Ok Ok.. joke aside, I guess as Prussia I just have one mayor disadvantage in this theater...

You want to complain about colonies ???

[HunterICX]

You want to complain about colonies ???

I just did, didn't I? :03: