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Zosimus
06-06-14, 08:51 AM
Have you ever gotten a solid hydrophone contact, shadowed the ship underwater, determined its course and speed, went roaring out to 7,000 meters and far ahead, sneaked up on the bugger underwater without going scope up, and set up the perfect killing shot, before raising the scope to see... an 89 ton fishing boat?! Verdammt Herr Creutz can't you hear the difference between a C3 cargo ship and a fishing boat?!

Well, what now? Do you figure you've come this far so screw it that baby's going down? Or do you refuse to waste your ammo on anything under 1900 tons?
Admiral Halsey
06-06-14, 10:17 AM
Have you ever gotten a solid hydrophone contact, shadowed the ship underwater, determined its course and speed, went roaring out to 7,000 meters and far ahead, sneaked up on the bugger underwater without going scope up, and set up the perfect killing shot, before raising the scope to see... an 89 ton fishing boat?! Verdammt Herr Creutz can't you hear the difference between a C3 cargo ship and a fishing boat?!

Well, what now? Do you figure you've come this far so screw it that baby's going down? Or do you refuse to waste your ammo on anything under 1900 tons?

It only takes a hit or two from the deck gun to sink them so it's not really a waste of ammo. Then again my philosophy is "Tonnage is Tonnage".
Sailor Steve
06-06-14, 10:35 AM
I would consider a torpedo to be a waste on a target that small, but that is what the deck gun is for. You can even man the AA gun and sink them if you like. That's fun. :sunny:
Admiral Halsey
06-06-14, 10:36 AM
You can even man the AA gun and sink them if you like. That's fun. :sunny:

The AA gun can sink them? Finally it actually has a use.
banryu79
06-06-14, 10:38 AM
I would consider a torpedo to be a waste on a target that small, but that is what the deck gun is for. You can even man the AA gun and sink them if you like. That's fun. :sunny:
Surely a torp will be a waste for that, but the fun of seeing the small boat vaporizing is priceless :D
allievo
06-06-14, 10:42 AM
I have been in that situation for a couple of times already, it's really frustrating after a long and exhausting approach especially in heavy fog and rain when all you can use is the hydrophone. I myself wouldn't bother to attack such a tiny fishing boat, after all they're just fishermen who wouldn't hurt a fly. On the other hand, that ridiculously low amount of tonnage of a fishing boat isn't worth giving away your presence in the area at all. At least, that's the way I see it.
Admiral Halsey
06-06-14, 10:54 AM
Surely a torp will be a waste for that, but the fun of seeing the small boat vaporizing is priceless :D

I've done that a couple times in SH4 with the sampans. Those things can fly when hit with a torp.
UKanibal
06-06-14, 11:05 AM
Ahhh sampans. I remember them best from SH I. Those were the times where you could aim the deck gun on a bunch of pixels pretending to be a boat. Those were fun kills back then :up:
maillemaker
06-06-14, 02:50 PM
The AA gun can sink them? Finally it actually has a use.

Oh yes, they can. In fact, I use the large AA gun on my Type IX as a backup to my deck gun when I run out of ammo.

Early in the war if I can wipe out a convoy's escorts and the rest of the ships have no guns, I can and have wiped out every ship in the convoy using every scrap of ammo on the boat, including the AA guns.

Steve
Kaptlt.Endrass
06-06-14, 06:04 PM
I would consider a torpedo to be a waste on a target that small, but that is what the deck gun is for. You can even man the AA gun and sink them if you like. That's fun. :sunny:

Steve's right; Heck of a way to brighten a patrol up.
Schöneboom
06-06-14, 06:48 PM
I recall reading on Uboat.net about a U-boat that sank a sailing vessel (under 100 tons) by deck gun. Well, it was carrying cargo: coconuts, copra, some guns & ammo. Must've been a slow day in the Caribbean.
Jimbuna
06-07-14, 03:42 AM
Welcome to SubSim UKanibal :sunny:
UKanibal
06-13-14, 11:22 AM
Welcome to SubSim UKanibal :sunny:

Thank you! ;) I registered to enjoy this fabulous forum content a few years ago while being mad in love with SH3 Grey Wolves mod, one of my favorite games of all times. It is time relive these days once again!
Jimbuna
06-13-14, 11:36 AM
Thank you! ;) I registered to enjoy this fabulous forum content a few years ago while being mad in love with SH3 Grey Wolves mod, one of my favorite games of all times. It is time relive these days once again!

SINK EM ALL!! :salute:
Red Heat
06-14-14, 11:41 AM
I would consider a torpedo to be a waste on a target that small, but that is what the deck gun is for. You can even man the AA gun and sink them if you like. That's fun. :sunny:

Hello everyone...

I had a new tactic...i personaly i dont like to haste any kind of ammo, my tactic its to ram the fishing boat or another kind of small target at flank speed... :D
Jimbuna
06-14-14, 12:07 PM
Hello everyone...

I had a new tactic...i personaly i dont like to haste any kind of ammo, my tactic its to ram the fishing boat or another kind of small target at flank speed... :D

Saw em in half with the net cutter.
GJO
06-15-14, 06:21 AM
Saw em in half with the net cutter.

Never considered that one! I guess that ramming small craft should be possible but the game does make our vessels extremely vulnerable to any form of collision damage. In an early career I even managed to lose my boat, in port, with all hands, when I accidentally pressed '5' (Flank speed ahead) instead of F5 - this caused my boat to ram the opposite dock wall . . .
banryu79
06-16-14, 02:51 AM
...In an early career I even managed to lose my boat, in port, with all hands, when I accidentally pressed '5' (Flank speed ahead) instead of F5 - this caused my boat to ram the opposite dock wall . . .
Well... I will say that a thing is to ram a small fishing boat, another completly different thing is to directly smash face up a solid wall at flank :D
UKönig
06-21-14, 01:25 PM
I once (and never again will I attempt it) hit a 98 ton fishing boat outside of hartlepool with a torpedo. Sort of like threading a needle on the first go while running a marathon, but surprise of surprises, I hit. The torp flung the little trawler (at what i estimated as) 100' into the air, where it flipped over like 6 times before crashing back down into the water, upside-down. Good times had by all!
scott_c2911
06-23-14, 06:57 AM
I did the same as Ukonig just north of ushant in a previous career. It was spectacular but a gross waste of ammunition. Overkill is a word used lightly here.
banryu79
06-23-14, 07:39 AM
I did the same as Ukonig just north of ushant in a previous career. It was spectacular but a gross waste of ammunition. Overkill is a word used lightly here.
At least Jimbuna cannot scream out loud is famous motto here :haha:
KleineUboot
06-23-14, 10:59 AM
The AA gun can sink them? Finally it actually has a use.
You may be surprised, but the 20 mm AA guns are very effective against PT boats. In one of my campaigns I've killed Elco with one hit from 88 mm deck gun and about 100 hits with 20 mm.
jscharpf
06-28-14, 10:59 AM
I once was waiting around for a medium sized cargo ship to sink after I had hit her with my last torpedo.

While trying to slowly get close to her I accidentally hit her (on the side near where my torpedo hit) and she sunk.

I don't remember taking any damage maybe some but I just don't know if that ship sank from me or was it coincidence and was going to sink then anyway.
UKönig
07-06-14, 05:50 PM
In my new career (only 4 missions into it) and twice so far my little IIA was unable to finish the job against (2 separate) 6000 tonners. They just sat there, damaged, low in the water, not doing anything else.
I was getting so frustrated with watching that BS that I was sorely tempted to try ramming a hole into the hull.
But the size difference between our two ships put me off. It would be like ramming a kiddie car into the rock of gibraltar, but who knows, maybe it would have worked, with the right circumstances...