Is it wrong?

[BossMark]

To date someone 20 years younger then yourself?

On my recent trip to Majorca I bumped (literally) into a very attractive Ukrainian girl we got talking even though her English was very good but my Russian is crap I only know 2 words. But we got on very well so we exchanged email addresses. And now she wants me to go and stay with her for a while I tried to explain our age difference but she will have none of it, so I might\want to give into her, but she as a great personality and a figure to die for and by far the best looking women that's ever approached me, I have told my family nothing of this, so I am asking what you guys and gals think.

I will post a picture of her on the beautiful women thread or the photography thread in the near future but not yet.

[kranz]

I'd say "go for it".
The worst thing that can happen to you is catching Ukrainian AIDS which is a much better situation than getting butchered by Ukrainian mafia.
So, remember: go for it - but on your ground.

on a more serious note - I'm not an expert but 20 years is a huuuge difference.

[Wolferz]

If you're old enough to know better but still young enough to do something about it, I say go have some fun. Be on your guard though.:D

Do let your family know that you are going to visit a "friend" in case something unfortunate happens and you need Interpol to find you.:huh:

[Red October1984]

In my opinion, there's a gray area here.

My advice (for what it's worth) be careful.

[Armistead]

Very beautiful
Very young

I would suspect motive, so be careful. Course, they're lots of beautiful women trying to marry outside their nations for numerous reasons. There was a man in my old neighborhood that got him a mail ordered bride from Russia. He was in his 40's, she was about 25. We thought him joking until he went over there and brought her back. It cost him about 25K total. Honestly, she was beauty to behold. THey actually had a great marriage for 3 years or so, but she finally left him once she became americanized.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Let's be honest, you have come here to ask our opinion, you've come to show off. :O:

I'll second the go-for-it-but-with-caution route.

I know a few people with brides from Belize and Thailand, all long, successful marriages, and some age differences. Don't know about Ukrainians though.

[bertieck476]

Citizenship does spring to mind, maybe enjoy it but be careful not to get hurt.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Can you get Leeds to play a friendly with Dynamo Kiev and go as a taster?

[BossMark]

Can you get Leeds to play a friendly with Dynamo Kiev and go as a taster?
Thats a good Idea :yep:, and I think am going ask her to come to Leeds see what she says about Jesus I may even pay for her flight :haha:.

@Armistead Jesus 25k sod that for a game that's way too much even for a model.

My pecker says go for it but my head says am not sure.

[Armistead]

Thats a good Idea :yep:, and I think am going ask her to come to Leeds see what she says about Jesus I may even pay for her flight :haha:.

@Armistead Jesus 25k sod that for a game that's way too much even for a model.

My pecker says go for it but my head says am not sure.

Just think with your head.....

[TarJak]

Caveat emptor.

[Herr-Berbunch]

I know some good christian folk who go to Ukraine every couple of years, they always enjoy it but I doubt they'd be with a hot girl so you'd enjoy it even more. Just create a second bank account and only take that card with you!

[Mittelwaechter]

Simple.

Tell her you'll never ever marry (again?) and see if she stays interested in you.

[Armistead]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWAUCVbnDUg

[AVGWarhawk]

Very beautiful
Very young

I would suspect motive, so be careful. Course, they're lots of beautiful women trying to marry outside their nations for numerous reasons. There was a man in my old neighborhood that got him a mail ordered bride from Russia. He was in his 40's, she was about 25. We thought him joking until he went over there and brought her back. It cost him about 25K total. Honestly, she was beauty to behold. THey actually had a great marriage for 3 years or so, but she finally left him once she became americanized.


The most sound advise I have read yet.

[Jimbuna]

Be sure to get yourself micro chipped...should help in the search for your body later.

[STEED]

Don't really know.

Stealth mode
Handle the situation with extreme care.

[BossMark]

Don't really know.

Stealth mode
Handle the situation with extreme care.
Think I'll nip to the pub get pissed have a word with me best mate then have good nights kip then I'll ask her to come to Leeds see what she says about that........

[Jimbuna]

http://img.izismile.com/img/img2/20090121/transvestites_05.jpg (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=qKDr-4vQcgC7iM&tbnid=HsQeHpoKy2dQtM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblog.roadsideattraction.com%2Ftop-funny-transvestites.html&ei=uptJUsDZCcar7AbktIHQBg&bvm=bv.53217764,d.ZG4&psig=AFQjCNHS-wyNUBurcy3TmyCFww6EJZ7LhA&ust=1380642094585416)
Be sure to send me the air fare big boy.

[BossMark]

Be sure to send me the air fare big boy.
:har::har:
Well l do know what she looks like having all ready met her :D

[Jimbuna]

:har::har:
Well l do know what she looks like having all ready met her :D

You met the 'carrot'....what will visit will be the 'plant' or should I have typed 'triffid' ? :D

[Herr-Berbunch]

:har::har:
Well l do know what she looks like having all ready met her :D

Yeah, but I met a gorgeous brunette in a club in Singapore once, absolutely stunning, 6'+ in heels. The baritone voice put me off. :03:

All I'm saying is - have you seen her in a skimpy bikini with no hiding places for 'anything'?

[Jimbuna]

I can assure you that lump in the bikini bottom will not have been her mobile :o

[BossMark]

All I'm saying is - have you seen her in a skimpy bikini with no hiding places for 'anything'?
Oh yes that's how I bumped into her I was walking away from the pool bar not looking where I was going and she got nearly 2 glasses of beer down her front :haha: So after making my apologies I said "How about a swim to wash that off"
She agreed and boy you should have seen the look on me mates faces :D

[Armistead]

I can assure you that lump in the bikini bottom will not have been her mobile :o

I once worked at a club as a bouncer and often patrolled the parking lot. The club was part of an old motel that was still opened. Ever so often a tall black lady wearing a long blonde wig walked to the conv. store beside the lot. I knew she was a prostitute, because cars would pull in front of her room, flash lights and she would flash back or come get them. Men came and went from her room.

One night she passed me walking to the store so I said "how you doing"

She replied back with a deep male bass voice "fine, you"

:doh:

[Jimbuna]

This is the stuff that makes the internets so entertaining :)

[kranz]

Post her picture - most subsim members have crystal balls but their usage applies only to politics, religion and similar topics.
Tits are excluded from that list.

[BossMark]

Post her picture - most subsim members have crystal balls but their usage applies only to politics, religion and similar topics.
Tits are excluded from that list.
Am off to the pub now will post her pictures tomorrow :yep:

[Jimbuna]

I once worked at a club as a bouncer and often patrolled the parking lot. The club was part of an old motel that was still opened. Ever so often a tall black lady wearing a long blonde wig walked to the conv. store beside the lot. I knew she was a prostitute, because cars would pull in front of her room, flash lights and she would flash back or come get them. Men came and went from her room.

One night she passed me walking to the store so I said "how you doing"

She replied back with a deep male bass voice "fine, you"

:doh:

So you had quite an 'eventful' evening then :hmmm:

Am off to the pub now will post her pictures tomorrow :yep:

I'll do that now for you if you want :smug:


http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/8403/s0n3.gif (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/703/s0n3.gif/)

[AVGWarhawk]

I once worked at a club as a bouncer and often patrolled the parking lot. The club was part of an old motel that was still opened. Ever so often a tall black lady wearing a long blonde wig walked to the conv. store beside the lot. I knew she was a prostitute, because cars would pull in front of her room, flash lights and she would flash back or come get them. Men came and went from her room.

One night she passed me walking to the store so I said "how you doing"

She replied back with a deep male bass voice "fine, you"

:doh:

:har::har:

[Bubblehead1980]

To date someone 20 years younger then yourself?

On my recent trip to Majorca I bumped (literally) into a very attractive Ukrainian girl we got talking even though her English was very good but my Russian is crap I only know 2 words. But we got on very well so we exchanged email addresses. And now she wants me to go and stay with her for a while I tried to explain our age difference but she will have none of it, so I might\want to give into her, but she as a great personality and a figure to die for and by far the best looking women that's ever approached me, I have told my family nothing of this, so I am asking what you guys and gals think.

I will post a picture of her on the beautiful women thread or the photography thread in the near future but not yet.


Not wrong, go for it, just be careful.

[BossMark]

This is Svetochka
http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/rothwellwhite1/1000370854_6_414161_zps3d78cc45.jpeg
http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/rothwellwhite1/1000370854_3_425661_zpsd9d0a978.jpeg

Oh boy I am still not sure what to do

[TarJak]

Someone once told me that something that sounds too good to be true probably is.

Have a squint at this before making up your mind http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0188453/
The movie not just the IMDB page.

[VipertheSniper]

Haha, a few visits to this thread and I get banner ads for dating sites with Eastern European women (So far I had Ukraine and Romania).

[Jimbuna]

Someone once told me that something that sounds too good to be true probably is.

Have a squint at this before making up your mindhttp://m.imdb.com/title/tt0188453/
The movie not just the IMDB page.


http://global3.memecdn.com/bad-luck-brian-male-transvestite_o_1314565.jpg (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=NC8l5yNSF_0kZM&tbnid=8RQ7xSiStyxUbM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.memecenter.com%2Ffun%2F131456 5%2Fbad-luck-brian-male-transvestite&ei=Ta9KUrqRHarB0QWRlYGABQ&bvm=bv.53371865,d.d2k&psig=AFQjCNF6xEAHJ_BtUUIApJW7maGPpl1GpQ&ust=1380712589681001)

:O:

[Herr-Berbunch]

This is Svetochka
<stunning pics>
Oh boy I am still not sure what to do

Mark, why are you even still here? :hmm2:

[AVGWarhawk]

Good God man.....pack ya skivvies and get going!!!!

[TarJak]

:hmmm: I think I've seen one of those shots elsewhere.

[Jimbuna]

This is Svetochka
http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/rothwellwhite1/1000370854_6_414161_zps3d78cc45.jpeg
http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee374/rothwellwhite1/1000370854_3_425661_zpsd9d0a978.jpeg

Oh boy I am still not sure what to do

One born every minute....in Yorkshire they reckon :)

http://onlinedatingshare.blogspot.com.au/2013/02/ukrainian-and-russian-personals-women.html

[TarJak]

One born every minute....in Yorkshire they reckon :)

http://onlinedatingshare.blogspot.com.au/2013/02/ukrainian-and-russian-personals-women.html

Ah that's where I've seen it before. Attractive lass, but I'd be concerned she's also listed here: http://www.romancescam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=44931 If you have her e-mail you can check it against this site. ;)

[Jimbuna]

^ Gets better and better...now where did I leave that stretched limousine? :D

[TarJak]

^ Gets better and better...now where did I leave that stretched limousine? :D

Paging Mr Wolfrang! Your car has been hijacked again!

Some good advice here: http://ukraine.usembassy.gov/scams.html

[BossMark]

One born every minute....in Yorkshire they reckon :)

http://onlinedatingshare.blogspot.com.au/2013/02/ukrainian-and-russian-personals-women.html

Ah that's where I've seen it before. Attractive lass, but I'd be concerned she's also listed here: http://www.romancescam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=44931 If you have her e-mail you can check it against this site. ;)
Oh dear think I have made a boo-boo going to keep in touch for now but as soon as money is mentioned by her then she can take a running jump :yep:

[Jimbuna]

I was going to suggest a poll regarding the possible deletion of this thread on the grounds of saving you some embarrassment but I honestly think you'd lose....коханий :D

[Herr-Berbunch]

Ah that's where I've seen it before. Attractive lass, but I'd be concerned she's also listed here: http://www.romancescam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=44931 If you have her e-mail you can check it against this site. ;)

Can you not just post that address into the beautiful women thread. It's full of them! :D

[BossMark]

I was going to suggest a poll regarding the possible deletion of this thread on the grounds of saving you some embarrassment but I honestly think you'd lose....коханий :D
True and me thinks she wants my hard earned cash and a free passport into the UK :damn:

[TarJak]

True and me thinks she wants my hard earned cash and a free passport into the UK :damn:

Well see what photo's and video you can get out of it before you pay for anything.:03:

[Jimbuna]

True and me thinks she wants my hard earned cash and a free passport into the UK :damn:

Well see what photo's and video you can get out of it before you pay for anything.:03:

Truest words on this thread....get what my mate above suggests and we'll set up a distribution network.

Play her at her own game :yeah:

You did keep your budgie smugglers on didn't you? :hmmm:

[Herr-Berbunch]

True and me thinks she wants my hard earned cash and a free passport into the UK :damn:

Free? Oh no, she's got to earn it. :D

[AVGWarhawk]

If it seems too good to be true, it usually is. :yep:

[Jimbuna]

If it seems too good to be true, it usually is. :yep:

Says him who previously posted "Good God man.....pack ya skivvies and get going"!!!!

:)

[AVGWarhawk]

Says him who previously posted "Good God man.....pack ya skivvies and get going"!!!!

:)

I was a momentary lapse of reason. Hormones and conquest! I can't help it!!! :wah:

[Jimbuna]

I was a momentary lapse of reason. Hormones and conquest! I can't help it!!! :wah:

It'll be a lack of meat and two veg if your lass ever reads that post :D

[Herr-Berbunch]

Hormones and conquest!

:har:

That should definitely be Mark's custom user title (the little tag line under the name).

[Aktungbby]

Be in your best underwear(for the hospital) have your defibrillator fully charged and RUN! What was once thunder in the left and light'n in the right is now dunder in the cleft and fizzle in the bight:Kaleun_Crying:This is the old badger game play on your libido and after she scores your sheks::Kaleun_Goofy:Axiom: What goes on in Majorca...STAYS in Majorca!

[AVGWarhawk]

It'll be a lack of meat and two veg if your lass ever reads that post :D

My lass has nothing to worry about. Lady in the parlor. Whore in the bedroom. :03:

:har:

That should definitely be Mark's custom user title (the little tag line under the name).


:haha:

[Tango589]

Lady in the parlor. Whore in the bedroom.

Probably better than the other way round!:haha:

[Jimbuna]

My lass has nothing to worry about. Lady in the parlor. Whore in the bedroom. :03:


Pictures or it didn't happen :)

[kranz]

True and me thinks she wants my hard earned cash and a free passport into the UK :damn:
orly? :)


Svetochka
http://i40.tinypic.com/2ue1tg5.jpg

go for it!!

[AVGWarhawk]

Probably better than the other way round!:haha:

Most Definitely :haha:

Pictures or it didn't happen :)

Sometimes things are best left to the imagination.

[GoldenRivet]

On the one hand you should follow your heart.

My personal experience: I did just that, i dated someone just twelve years my junior and it was the absolute worst experience of my life, and to be bluntly honest... im fortunate to have not blown my brains out. seriously. Im quite literally being serious there... :nope:

The age gap meant that our taste in music, our taste in movies, our taste in activities etc were completely different. She had not reached the level of maturity in her life nor had she the life experience that one has in order to become someone in their mid thirties and i had not any ability to go back in time to be someone in their early twenties.

The result is a lack of common experience, ultimately the only thing you end up having in common is sex. or perhaps sex and your love of Italian food or any other insignificant thing upon which to base a relationship. And while the sex might be mind blowing, and while it is a fact that a woman 10-20 years your junior can keep you completely emptied if you know what i mean... there is no substance to the relationship. Ultimately, it devolves to its lowest common denominator of screwing, fighting - quite vehemently about something upon which you differ (there will be these things daily) and then "make up sex". Rinse wash repeat - every day - until one of you walks away from the situation.

When i dated this particular person, I felt out of place around her friends because i didnt know the latest lady gaga gossip or whatever, She hated my friends because she couldn't related to them, i felt ridiculous trying to pull all nighters at bars and clubs with her. Come 1am - like clock work i was ready to go home and call it a night, and sometimes the result was just that... her on the other hand; absent and incommunicado until 4 in the morning.

On the other hand, some of the more cultured things i enjoyed like wine tasting, or enjoying cocktails in a jazzy cigar bar, or watching a classic movie... these grew to be things she was quickly bored with.

Ultimately, instead of embracing our differences as fun and quirky, we grew to hate the very things about one another that made us both who we are, and as a result we quite literally hated one another by the end of it.

We constantly argued - sometimes it was stupid things, other times not. But i was always being told how "Old" or "outdated" my music, my taste in movies, my taste in clothing, my manner of speaking etc was, and the end result of most arguments was generally some young woman locking herself in *my* room blasting some horrible excuse for music out of *my* stereo until she felt relieved enough to stop on her own accord.

I had one friend who was in a similar situation as i, we occasionally double dated. we both felt like babysitters, and the feeling of eyes all around the room looking at he and I was like a weight. It didnt take long for me to become ashamed of the fact that i was a 33 year old man dating a 22 year old woman.

In the end, after a particularly rough week, i simply had to drive her stuff to her moms house where she was visiting for the weekend, I put it all on her front porch and called her on my 2 hour drive home just to say "Your things are out front, Im not coming back." and thus closed the chapter on one entire year of my life. one whole year i would love to have completely erased... but a year that i know that i'm better for having remembered because I learned some important lessons, here are some of the most important

1. Life is too short to spend a single second surrounding yourself with people who are unhealthy for you. This for me includes dating women who are 5 or more years my junior of 5 or more years my senior.

2. Red flags pop up in your mind for a reason... no matter how rose colored the glasses are through which you view the other person, MIND THE RED FLAGS. Its your brains way of saying, look dummy... this aint right.

3. my twenties were a blast of a good time... i am well into my thirties now. I am not now, nor will i ever be that person again, and that is a good thing, i should embrace that, and surround myself with people who have experienced it themselves.

4. Relationships must be built upon trust, reliability, respect, common experience, patience, understanding etc. If you try to make it work with someone with whom you have little or no common experience - it is very likely doomed to fail from the start. For that reason, i have decided not to date women outside my age, race, or from a dissimilar socioeconomic condition.

5. Always be willing to accept the pain of getting the hell out of a situation. I was very upset about having to end the relationship i was in, but i knew that the pain was temporary and would end, and the next thing would be great and i was right.

generally speaking, i think dating someone outside your age group is a pretty rotten idea, and unless you find that 1 woman out of millions of them who - while being 20 years your junior - is still wise beyond her years, such relationships are rarely going to work out well

[Jimbuna]

^ Nice one John :sunny:

[AVGWarhawk]

Good post John. My thoughts are dating someone within the same decade of age. In other words, at least 10 years or closer to your age. By and large both would have experienced something that they can relate to. Your magic number is 5. My wife is 8 years younger than me. But, we related and enjoy experiences from decades we grew up. The 70's-90's. Music, movies and events we know and can enjoy. Times of our lives that created who were are. We both are from the same decades fabric as it where. Just 8 years apart. When you start pushing that 10 plus the divide becomes two totally different worlds. Other than the horizontal mumbo there is not much substance.

[GoldenRivet]

Good post John. My thoughts are dating someone within the same decade of age. In other words, at least 10 years or closer to your age. By and large both would have experienced something that they can relate to. Your magic number is 5. My wife is 8 years younger than me. But, we related and enjoy experiences from decades we grew up. The 70's-90's. Music, movies and events we know and can enjoy. Times of our lives that created who were are. We both are from the same decades fabric as it where. Just 8 years apart. When you start pushing that 10 plus the divide becomes two totally different worlds. Other than the horizontal mumbo there is not much substance.

Every person has to tailor it, you're right.

I also think the older both parties are, the wider this age chasm can be.

For example a 65 year old and a 45 year old are more set for relationship success than say a 38 year old and an 18 year old.

when a person passes a certain age, they have pretty much been there, gotten out into the world, experienced their own triumphs and losses, their own successes and failures that make them a mature functioning adult be it in the expanse of society or the confines of a serious relationship.

below that certain age, they are just physically developed and thats pretty much it.

how should i put it?...

your twenties and early 30s are your renaissance period. Without them you are more or less unrefined. a man who is post renaissance entering into a serious relationship with a woman who is pre-renaissance is not a good idea. :hmmm:

EDIT: i admit there is no one size fits all formula, a persons situation can often force them to "grow up" faster than others. I have known a number of highly intelligent, wise beyond their years, young people who were way ahead of folks 15+ years their senior. of course it is because of this enhanced level of maturity and intelligence that they are usually not falling prey to such conundrums as dating outside their age group.

[AVGWarhawk]

John, if the insurance gig does not work out for you consider a talk show on relationships!

I agree with all that you have said. My brother married a gal with 2 kids and 12 years his senior. It was nothing but a sexual relationship. They have moved on to different things in their lives. Heck, my mother predicted failure in this marriage. She was right. So, yes, the 20-30's are certainly the sowing of the oats as it were. If one in the relationship has done this already there is not much between the two. I'm still of mind that if both grew up relatively close in a given decade the chances are good for a long relationship. There are things in common.

[Tango589]

Whilst people may have lots of bad experiences at being in a relationship with a wide age gap, this doesn't always have to be the case. I'm 32 and my wife of 13 1/2 years my senior, although when people lookat us, they think I look older! We are coming up to 6 years together, and just short of 3 years married. We have kept each other together through some pretty tough times and life is a blast. It may help that we both think 'age is just a number' and don't let it stop us.:up:

Not braggin', just sayin'!

[AVGWarhawk]

Whilst people may have lots of bad experiences at being in a relationship with a wide age gap, this doesn't always have to be the case. I'm 32 and my wife of 13 1/2 years my senior, although when people lookat us, they think I look older! We are coming up to 6 years together, and just short of 3 years married. We have kept each other together through some pretty tough times and life is a blast. It may help that we both think 'age is just a number' and don't let it stop us.:up:

Not braggin', just sayin'!

John and I agree that some will just work no matter the age. The lucky few enjoy a great relationship. My wife and I are 8 years apart. Married 20 years come this April. One daughter in college and our second in 10th grade. We have loved, laughed and experienced much together. In short, we have each other. We too will grow old together. However, I will get there first. :shifty::haha:

[GoldenRivet]

John, if the insurance gig does not work out for you consider a talk show on relationships!

:haha: Hopefully it continues to go well.

though it has cut into my flying and my subsim time considerably:shifty:

[AVGWarhawk]

:haha: Hopefully it continues to go well.

though it has cut into my flying and my subsim time considerably:shifty:

Someone gotta pay the bills!!!!

[Onkel Neal]

Good post, John :yep:

[Mr Quatro]

Every person has to tailor it, you're right.

I also think the older both parties are, the wider this age chasm can be.

For example a 65 year old and a 45 year old are more set for relationship success than say a 38 year old and an 18 year old.

when a person passes a certain age, they have pretty much been there, gotten out into the world, experienced their own triumphs and losses, their own successes and failures that make them a mature functioning adult be it in the expanse of society or the confines of a serious relationship.

below that certain age, they are just physically developed and thats pretty much it.

how should i put it?...

your twenties and early 30s are your renaissance period. Without them you are more or less unrefined. a man who is post renaissance entering into a serious relationship with a woman who is pre-renaissance is not a good idea. :hmmm:

EDIT: i admit there is no one size fits all formula, a persons situation can often force them to "grow up" faster than others. I have known a number of highly intelligent, wise beyond their years, young people who were way ahead of folks 15+ years their senior. of course it is because of this enhanced level of maturity and intelligence that they are usually not falling prey to such conundrums as dating outside their age group.

The edit is right on, because I have had this same problem with a teenage girl of 18 while I was in my mid thirties. The sex was great just like in your relationship it was the best I had ever had, the music I had to bend with ZZ top and J Giles (horizontal bop was nice though)(this was a long time ago I must add) while I liked country, but the drugs did us in it was her candy and we had to split after 9 months, but I 'll always remember her grabbing my hand while driving and saying I love you or waking up with her in the morning and taking a shower together.

Her age had sincerity where an older woman is more cat like and knows what she wants and how to get it. The younger women aren't finished yet, not so set in there ways.

I would do it again minus the drugs in fact next time I'll just make sure they like country music lol

As for today's crowd I think money has a lot to do with the age difference in relationships today. Women are looking for a solid way to secure their financial future and if it means an older man offering security then so be it.

But you would make a good counselor too ... you might check into that GR :yep: