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V13dweller
08-28-13, 07:11 AM
I am getting a strange shadow glitch that is new to me, any insights?

http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/375f/1ljneddb86mk9d47g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?1ljneddb86mk9d4)


As you can see, this is Shocking.
I am not sure what has caused this.

Also, my submarine is not becoming fully dark, at night time.
Also my crew members on deck are also slightly lit up.

My mod list, it is vaguely based of Sobers Megamod, but I have swapped and added some of my preferred mods, made with as little collisions as I could.
Generic Mod Enabler - v2.6.0.157
[C:\Ubisoft\Silent Hunter 5\MODS]

Accurate German Flags
silentmichal's interior mod 1.2.1
DynEnv v2.9 - 1. Main Mod
DynEnv v2.9 - 5.c Ambient Settings - Darker Nights-No Murky Waters
DynEnv v2.9 - 6. Sleet for Winter Campaigns
DynEnv v2.9 - 8.c Wave Mechanics - Hurricane
WoGaDi Mod BetaSix
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_byTheBeast
Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1
#Equipment_Upgrades_Fix_v1_4_Patch_1_HotFix
NewUIs_TDC_7_2_0_ByTheDarkWraith
IRAI_0_0_39_ByTheDarkWraith
R.E.M_by_Xrundel_TheBeast_1.2
Depth Charge Fix Reduced Explosion Range
Cerberus62 Corrected Depth Charge Projector 1.0
MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 Stock faces
MCCD_1.04_MFCM_1.2.1_compatible
OPEN HORIZONS II_full v2.2
smaller flags for Warships 1_0b
Cerberus62 Historical Ship Equipment 1.4
Auxiliary Cruiser Guns v.0.0.01
Depth_Keeping_Problem_HB_2_0_0_TheDarkWraith
Magnetic Detonators 4m by TDW
Grossdeutscher Rundfunk
gap - German Navy radar fix
gap - armaments & equipments patch v 0.2
Enhanced FunelSmoke_by HanSolo78
FREE UPGRADES Patch 1
Pascal-sh5-Crew-Uniforms
Realistic ammo amount for AA and deck guns
Reboot's Hot Soup 1.1
SeaWolf torpedo tweak
SH5Lifeboat_Wooden
SH5Lifeboats_by_Rongel_TDW_stoianm_v2.11
Soldati Weapon Fix
Sub_Bubbles_v0_0_3_ byTheBeast
Sub_Exhaust_1_0_5_byTheDarkWraith
SubFlags_0_0_8_byTheDarkWraith
TDW_Mines_Subnets_Detectable_in_hydro (OH II v2)
The Ships That Never Were v.0.0.01
Uboat_Snorkel_1_1_0_by_TheDarkWraith
RemoveLogoIntroTheDarkWraith

Fifi
08-28-13, 03:30 PM
If your computer can handle it, try this mod: Shadow Improvement Mod :yep:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1436544&postcount=1

V13dweller
08-28-13, 06:30 PM
My PC can handle it this game on max settings at over 60 FPS, so It should handle this, I will look into it when I get back.
Thank you for your input.

THE_MASK
08-28-13, 09:25 PM
I have the bad shadows also . Its either ati card or mods . Do you have an ati card ?

V13dweller
08-29-13, 12:57 AM
I have an Nvidia GTX 570.

V13dweller
08-29-13, 01:23 AM
I installed the shadow mod, but now there is a nice dark shadow, but a horrible outside shadow that is all jagged.
It's better, but not enough for me.
Could this be a Video Card issue?
http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/f400/5e0t3xu56dea4d16g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/view/?5e0t3xu56dea4d1)

tonschk
08-29-13, 07:19 AM
It is not really easy to get accurate shadows with SH5

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z58/tonschk/SH5Img2010-08-24_073225-1.jpg
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z58/tonschk/SH5Img2010-08-27_080628-1-1.jpg

Fifi
08-29-13, 04:12 PM
Could this be a Video Card issue?


I have an Nvidia 580, and get better shadow than your picture...
I think your outline shadow issue is coming from your card :yep:
I get pretty clean shadow, not perfect, but slightly pixellized on edges.
Yours are pretty weird indeed...
Did you changed something via inspector or something?

V13dweller
08-29-13, 07:06 PM
My GPU is running on factory default settings bar the drivers.

tonschk
08-31-13, 03:45 AM
In this thread you can find a bit more info about SH5 dynamic shadows related info/issues/behaviour

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=205278


Hopeless :wah:, the usual problem, the shadows far away are better and more accurate and the shadows closer to the player are more blurred, In my opinion the resolution must the opposite, therefore better resolution closer to the player

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z58/tonschk/SH5Img2013-06-30_161323_zpsf7bf9087.png (http://s194.photobucket.com/user/tonschk/media/SH5Img2013-06-30_161323_zpsf7bf9087.png.html)

gap
08-31-13, 10:57 AM
Hopeless :wah:, the usual problem, the shadows far away are better and more accurate and the shadows closer to the player are more blurred, In my opinion the resolution must the opposite, therefore better resolution closer to the player

It seems to me that some shading is applied to the edges for making shadows to look smoother. This is not visible in far shadows because the shaded area is lesser than one pixel wide.

If the above statement was true, we should look for a way to reduce this shading, because as it is now it results an odd blurring effect :hmmm:

tonschk
09-01-13, 04:41 AM
SH5 has three Cascade Shadows Maps (CSM), I think the code of the SH5 for the CSM has an error and instead of casting shadows with better resolution closer to the player, the SH5 borked code for the shadows develop better resolution for shadows far away from the player and worst resolution for shadows closer to the player

http://s24.postimg.org/kdrn8s7at/CSM.png (http://postimage.org/)

gap
09-01-13, 06:03 AM
I see :hmm2:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ee416307(v=vs.85).aspx

tonschk
09-01-13, 07:06 AM
In my opinion, unless a SH5 developer or somebody with code skills can fix the SH5 code for the shadows, tweaking just the SH5 shadows settings is nearly useless :wah:

[Shadows]
NumCascades=3
LowResolution=1024
HighResolution=1536

[Interior]
FarPlane=1.0
ExtrudeCamera=5.0
DepthBias=0.0005
DepthSlopeBias=1.0
Split0=0.07
Split1=0.27
Split2=1.0
FilterSizeSplit0=1
FilterSizeSplit1=1
FilterSizeSplit2=1

[Bridge]
FarPlane=15.0
ExtrudeCamera=12.0
DepthBias=0.002
DepthSlopeBias=2.0
Split0=0.07
Split1=0.3
Split2=1.0
FilterSizeSplit0=2
FilterSizeSplit1=1
FilterSizeSplit2=1

[Exterior]
FarPlane=160.0
ExtrudeCamera=50.0
DepthBias=0.0015
DepthSlopeBias=1.0
Split0=0.1
Split1=0.33
Split2=1.0
FilterSizeSplit0=2
FilterSizeSplit1=1
FilterSizeSplit2=1

V13dweller
10-12-13, 09:03 PM
I have tried tweaking GPU settings to no avail.

I hope this is not something I will have to live with.

lodebeard
10-13-13, 03:22 PM
Could this be a Video Card issue?


One way to find out it seems to me - boot up your game in stock settings and see what the shadows do. You've tried that already, right?

gap
10-13-13, 04:36 PM
One way to find out it seems to me - boot up your game in stock settings and see what the shadows do. You've tried that already, right?

Since V13's problem has started suddenly, I suspect that his shadow glich was caused by some wrong setting. Unfortunately he has overwritten so many of the stock files with modded ones, that it would hard for him deciding which files were corrupted.

V13, you are reinstalling the game, don't you? :03:

V13dweller
10-13-13, 11:28 PM
Since V13's problem has started suddenly, I suspect that his shadow glich was caused by some wrong setting. Unfortunately he has overwritten so many of the stock files with modded ones, that it would hard for him deciding which files were corrupted.

V13, you are reinstalling the game, don't you? :03:

I will soon, I am just making backups of my personal mods.

EDIT: I would like to add before I re install, does sinking a ship in for example, coastal waters, keep it sunk on other missions? like in the next mission Happy times?
Or does sinking a ship actually remove it at all?

Oleander
10-14-13, 03:29 AM
EDIT: I would like to add before I re install, does sinking a ship in for example, coastal waters, keep it sunk on other missions? like in the next mission Happy times?
Or does sinking a ship actually remove it at all?

I've heard others say that if you sink say the HMS Hood in Total Germany, it is gone forever. There appears to be a major issue with the Carriers during Mare Nostrom if you sunk them in earlier campaigns.

Speaking of shadows, I was having the same issue off and on. Sometimes the near shadows were good other times they were bad. This game has all the symptoms of being rushed. From what I know about other games the source code seems to be very inefficient when it comes to draw calls and rendering. I have anti-aliasing all the way up and I'm still getting artifacts on near objects.

tonschk
10-15-13, 02:57 AM
I can tweak the SH5 dynamic shadows settings to show accurate shadows closer to the player, the problem is that then ALL the far away shadows completely disappear/vanish :wah:



http://s19.postimage.org/4i8d95lhf/SH5_Img_2012_06_06_15_09_13.png (http://postimage.org/image/3spkwskxr/full/)
http://s19.postimage.org/lk17b90cj/SH5_Img_2012_06_06_15_13_05.png (http://postimage.org/image/js88gcgzj/full/)
http://s19.postimage.org/l9ya5nb43/SH5_Img_2012_05_02_22_18_20.png (http://postimage.org/image/6dzqy1zpb/full/)
http://s19.postimage.org/uvruly29v/SH5_Img_2012_05_05_19_51_23.png (http://postimage.org/image/p7ljv1xxb/full/)
http://s19.postimage.org/xedjmmo03/SH5_Img_2012_06_06_15_11_20.png (http://postimage.org/image/5e9g2ckjj/full/)
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http://s19.postimage.org/bijhzggzn/SH5_Img_2012_06_09_03_01_27.png (http://postimage.org/image/ty3ywuv3z/full/)
http://s19.postimage.org/tq30ehwxv/SH5_Img_2012_06_09_10_08_03.png (http://postimage.org/image/p46w65ben/full/)

V13dweller
10-15-13, 03:28 AM
Wish my shadows looked that good, but having them at range matters too.:shifty:

gap
10-15-13, 07:29 AM
EDIT: I would like to add before I re install, does sinking a ship in for example, coastal waters, keep it sunk on other missions? like in the next mission Happy times?
Or does sinking a ship actually remove it at all?

I've heard others say that if you sink say the HMS Hood in Total Germany, it is gone forever. There appears to be a major issue with the Carriers during Mare Nostrom if you sunk them in earlier campaigns.

Yes, I think the units of a given class can be set in campaign as 'unique', so that when they are destroyed (by the player or during an AI-AI battle) they won't respawn again.

There appears to be a major issue with the Carriers during Mare Nostrom if you sunk them in earlier campaigns.

I think that, even though they all have been destroyed, ships of a given class can be forced in campaign if an objective or mission requires them :hmm2:

I can tweak the SH5 dynamic shadows settings to show accurate shadows closer to the player, the problem is that then ALL the far away shadows completely disappear/vanish :wah:

Awesome work on those shadows, tonschk. :up: Pity for the far away glitch...

U-190
10-11-21, 04:02 AM
The glitch of shadows is contained in OHII