SSD hard drive

[Fifi]

Hi,

Planning to buy from long time an SSD drive, i will finally go for it in few weeks :sunny:
I've choosen the Samsung SSD 840 500 Go, knowing and already having Samsung amazing quality products.
I'm quite sure it will be a good improvment to run SH5 on my rig, mainly loading times will drop probably half time, but maybe playability will be even smoother.

What do you think? Is it good choice?

Will post in time the differences noticed VS my old drive when i'll get it :rock:

[Haukka81]

It's great upgrade.

I have been SSD user now for two years, Makes windows 7 start in seconds and cut's loading times. :yeah:


Go for it.


-haukka81

[Fifi]

Thanks for feedback Haukka :up:

Is game itself a bit smoother?...meaning when teleporting or accessing scopes, must be instantaneous...or panning around externals views?
(i'm seconded by a ZOTAC 580)

[TheDarkWraith]

Thanks for feedback Haukka :up:

Is game itself a bit smoother?...meaning when teleporting or accessing scopes, must be instantaneous...or panning around externals views?
(i'm seconded by a ZOTAC 580)

This is not a function of drive activity. This is a function of your motherboard/CPU/RAM/Video card. If they are 'fast' then everything is smoother. If you have low RAM (2-4GB) then SSD will play a small part (paging and swapping memory pages to/from virtual memory).

An SSD will drastically cut the loading times down. I have two OCZ Vertex 4's in a RAID 0 (SATAIII). It smokes :D

[bubbaisagod]

Thanks for feedback Haukka :up:

Is game itself a bit smoother?...meaning when teleporting or accessing scopes, must be instantaneous...or panning around externals views?
(i'm seconded by a ZOTAC 580)

An SSD will decrease loading times but starting a game is still a b***h,
loading times after sinking your boat or a reload after messing up your torpedo solution is much faster.

For smooth teleporting, ... I suggest increasing your CPU clock: My PC runs on an Intel 2500K 3.3 GHz (stock),
after a few hours playing I changed the CPU clock to 3.8 GHz. The higher CPU speed eliminated 99% of in game stuttering.

[Fifi]

This is not a function of drive activity. This is a function of your motherboard/CPU/RAM/Video card. If they are 'fast' then everything is smoother. If you have low RAM (2-4GB) then SSD will play a small part (paging and swapping memory pages to/from virtual memory).

An SSD will drastically cut the loading times down. I have two OCZ Vertex 4's in a RAID 0 (SATAIII). It smokes :D

I have already 16 Gb RAM...

I suggest increasing your CPU clock: My PC runs on an Intel 2500K 3.3 GHz (stock),
after a few hours playing I changed the CPU clock to 3.8 GHz. The higher CPU speed eliminated 99% of in game stuttering.

Yes, i plan to do it...but i need a friend's help. I'm not computer good enough.
I own an I7 875K @ 2.93 Ghz, and K means i can boost it :up:

[tonschk]

I don't think with the SSD this SH5 simulator can become smoother, to reach that goal I am just about (next month) to upgrade from LGA775 core 2 duo E8500 to LGA2011 IB-E 4820K, and from ATI HD5870 to Nvidia GTX770 :D with 16Gb of 1600MHz RAM/DIMM

[Fifi]

I don't think with the SSD this SH5 simulator can become smoother, to reach that goal I am just about (next month) to upgrade from LGA775 core 2 duo E8500 to LGA2011 IB-E 8420K, and from ATI HD5870 to Nvidia GTX770 :D with 16Gb of 1600MHz RAM/DIMM

Going from Ati to Nvidia?....was almost thinking the inverse! (for me)...to avoid some SH5 glitches due to Nvidias....

[tonschk]

Hi, I while ago I contacted Pintea (SH5 developer), this is his opinion about ATI Radeon or Nvidia selection to play SH5, I hope Pintea don't mind if I post his view about this ATI/Nvidia issue



Quote:
Originally Posted by tonschk
Hello Pintea, can you tell me please which is better for Silent Hunter 5, the HD7970 or the GTX680 ?, thank you for your help

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pintea
Hello, I would choose the GTX680.
For this GPU generation, I am in favor of NVidia over ATI on almost any video card.

Quote:
Originally Posted by tonschk
Thank you very much for the answer, the reviews of the
HD7970 and GTX680 are a bit confused, for some games the AMD7970 is better and for other games the GTX680 is better, do you think the GTX680 can handle the code/files of this SH5 UBISOFT game better ? , thank you


Quote:
Originally Posted by Pintea
Hello, First of all, I do not believe that you will have any performance problem with any of them, since they're both very good and they should run SH5 at more than 60fps, after which point it becomes unnoticeable.

They have almost the same raw power specifications, therefore it's hard to judge which one will actually run faster specifically on SH5.

What I can tell you is that we had problems with ATI(AMD) cards an drivers, that's why I'm skeptical about ATI/AMD.

[Fifi]

Thanks for info :up:
I'm not ready to change graphic card anyway, but was kind of tired of the triangles glitches due to Nvidia, each time i look up the sky.

[Herr-Berbunch]

Don't forget to NEVER defrag your SSD.

[scorpiondown]

learned something here today about SSD,s that i never knew.. After reading
Herr-Berbunch,s response,,looked this up : http://helpdeskgeek.com/featured-posts/should-you-defrag-an-ssd/

Thanks for adding that post Herr-Berbunch !:up::up:

[Herr-Berbunch]

Thanks for adding that post Herr-Berbunch !:up::up:

My pleasure. Thanks for searching for it rather than blindly asking. :D

A good link.

[Pisces]

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An SSD will drastically cut the loading times down. I have two OCZ Vertex 4's in a RAID 0 (SATAIII). It smokes :DThen I suggest water cooling. Or find the short circuit in the power cables. ;)

[Fifi]

Don't forget to NEVER defrag your SSD.

Yeah, i knew that.
But i just learned about the trim feature, and the SSD i want support it :up:

[V13dweller]

Having a lager number of cores helps out as well, because it allows the system to be somewhere else and keeps other applications away from the game increasing FPS, I get SH5 running at over 90+ FPS with forced AA 16x and max graphics.

My Phenom II x6 1100t is clocked at 3.4 Ghz with an old Nvidia GTX 570 blitzes most tasks with ease.
Fast RAM helps, mine is at 1633 Mhz and it does the job quite well.:D

My PC will start very quickly, about less than 20 seconds, but SSD's do have short life expectancy, my SSD died last year and I lost everything due to a random death of the drive.
Now I have two SSD's on a RAID, so if one dies, I have a backup. :O:

[7thSeal]

but maybe playability will be even smoother.


Sounds like you're looking mainly for smooth gameplay. I had 4gigs of memory and too many mods would crash it back to desktop but now have 8gigs and no more crashing for me. Loading times of course is mainly your harddrive but also your operating system can help out if caching is excellent. As another member pointed out to me with my Win 7 64bit and 4gigs of ram, adding another 4gigs would help show what the OS is capable of dealing with memory caching which I now see evidence of.

Stuttering is either cpu or gpu everytime. You mentioned your gpu but what about your cpu? I still have a dual core xeon running at a little over 4ghzs and it feeds my ati 7870 quite nicely on every game that I've played. Cpu will eventually become my weak point which will require me getting another motherboard, memory and I'll throw in the SSD harddrive aswell. But counting on just the SSD to smooth out your gameplay likely won't happen.

[Fifi]

Well, my SSD is ordered and on the way home...
Not really expecting smoother gameplay anyway, but loading times for sure :yep:

My CPU is I7 quad core 2.9 Ghz actually, but i plan one day to get a new MB because mine is old, and btw to change for new sockets compatible latest powerfull CPU :rock:

I already have 16 Gb RAM...

[7thSeal]

My CPU is I7 quad core 2.9 Ghz actually

Ghzs on cpu is really more important than cores. A quad core is more than capable of running many tasks at once, but! faster gpu's require faster ghzs cpu's to feed them.... not more cores.


I promise you, the 2.9Ghz is whats causing the breakup in smooth gameplay. Getting a faster gpu is going to require alot more Ghz on the cpu no matter how many cores you get. :up:

[Fifi]

Yeah, and before i get new mother board, i'll probably overclock my I7 in the waiting...it's an I7 875K, so i know i can boost it.
Only problem, i can't do it myself...i have to find a guy here to do it for me. I don't want to melt my rig! :haha:

[7thSeal]

Overclocking is pretty simply but proper cooling is everything if you venture down that route. I mentioned my dual core running a little over 4ghz but that is with watercooling on my cpu and northbridge. Xeon cpu's hold closer tolerance on voltage fluctuations than others and require less voltage is the reason I went that route. My rig is over four years old and adding a faster gpu and more memory is the only requirements that I've faced sofar with playing newer games. :)

[Fifi]

So, new SSD arrived, and is installed :rock:

At first, computer is working like flash :o but SH5 loading times aren't decreased by half...they are improved, but not like night and day.
Strangely, i find game more fluent for some parts :yep: and few things are working instantly when clicked.

All in all, it's an improvment, but maybe not worth the price :-?
Will see with further computer upgrade.

[V13dweller]

AMD is going to release their next series of processors, the Steamroller series, they are going to be a massive step up from what is available today but we must wait until next year.

The on-board graphics card is going to be a beast compared to any on-board today. The AMD A10 Kaveri chip will come off the shelf at 5 Ghz with a rumored graphics clock of over a Ghz, it is going to be released next year.

So I would wait for that.

My SSD did not change my SH5 loading times by a noticeable level but processing power changes things by a large margin.

If you want a new processor without waiting until next year, I would recommend the FX-8350, they cost about $199 AUD but they perform to s superb level, no complaints from anyone I know, also, read the comments from NewEgg.com

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284

I also would not choose an Nvidia card, my Nvidia Gtx 570 has been problematic since I bot it in 2010 when it came out, it gets shockingly low FPS in every game but SH5 which runs at about 90 at max an about 50 at minimum while my processor is at about 19% on one core.
I have had better runs with AMD cards, my friends and relatives all go AMD due to less problems and better performance.