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B4rberblacksheep
07-15-13, 04:52 PM
In response to the article on the homepage I decided to go and take a look at Das Boot. Whenever I see it mentioned I've only ever heard great things about it so I decided to take the plunge and dive right in (sorry). I did watch the English Dub just because it was so late I really wasn't up for reading but one thing really surprised me. The dub feels perfect. When I saw it was dubbed I expected Clint Eastwood level of dubbing but whenever the characters spoke it felt as if they had spoken in English when filmed. It definitely helped with the immersion into the film and the little bubble that you're put into whilst watching.
I don't normally like a film where there are reasonably long segments where nothing is happening but whilst watching Das Boot I found I just didn't care. Granted there where long winded sections but I actually felt that was where the heart of the film lies. Not as I expected in the action but rather in the inaction. The sailors going about their day to day lives aboard a U-Boat added so much to the film that I actually cared when someone died (when I managed to recognise them) and actually felt genuinely nervous if they attempted to hide from a destroyer.
All in all I have to thank Subsim for pointing me at what has almost certainly become my favorite films of all time without a shadow of a doubt. I'd also definitely recommend anyone who hasn't watched it to go and watch it (Even though I probably was the only person on the forums who hadn't XD).
Well that's my two pennys worth, what's yours?
EDIT: If this is in the wrong section apologies
Platapus
07-15-13, 05:02 PM
Welcome aboard!
I too like Das Boot. I don't know if I would consider it the best film ever, but it is certainly the best WWII submarine movie that takes place in a type VII. :D
Mittelwaechter
07-15-13, 05:08 PM
Welcome aboard, Herr Kaleun.
The best film ever?
We may commonly agree it's the best U-Boot film ever.
There is no best film ever. It all depends on personal taste and genre.
I.e. I like "Night on Earth" by Jim Jarmusch too.
u crank
07-15-13, 05:32 PM
Welcome to SubSim B4rberblacksheep.:salute:
It's a good movie and kinda got me interested in submarine sims.
nikimcbee
07-15-13, 05:41 PM
WWMD?
What would Midge do?:hmmm::03:
Red October1984
07-15-13, 05:45 PM
The original actors did the dubbing in their own voice. That's why it feels so natural.
The thing I don't like is how the words don't match up with the mouth movements....and it's a German movie. I feel it should be watched in it's original language.
Btw, Welcome to Subsim! Happy Hunting! :woot:
Not according to Midge! :D
Ducimus
07-15-13, 05:52 PM
Great submarine flick? Without a doubt.
Great war movie? Most certainly.
Best film ever? Hardly.
What would I say is the best movie ever? I couldn't even begin to attempt a guess. There's just too many good movies to choose from.
nikimcbee
07-15-13, 06:24 PM
Great submarine flick? Without a doubt.
Great war movie? Most certainly.
Best film ever? Hardly.
What would I say is the best movie ever? I couldn't even begin to attempt a guess. There's just too many good movies to choose from.
That would be "Run Silent Run Deep.":up:
Red October1984
07-15-13, 07:51 PM
That would be "Run Silent Run Deep.":up:
That's my favorite sub film.
:yeah:
WernherVonTrapp
07-15-13, 07:58 PM
Welcome abroad, B4rberblacksheep.:D
I saw Das Boot when it was first released in U.S. theatres with english subtitles.
Definitely a good movie,:up: but not the best.
That would be "Run Silent Run Deep.":up:
I figured you for "They Were Expendable". :)
Kptlt. Neuerburg
07-15-13, 10:35 PM
Das Boot is the best movies on submarine warfare from the Axis point of view and by far one of most historically accurate war films that I've ever seen. Best way to watch it in German with English subtitles, watching the English dub is like watching one of those Japanese movies from the 80's with an English dub it just doesn't work.
And welcome to Subsim B4rberblacksheep.:Kaleun_Salute:
Red October1984
07-15-13, 11:24 PM
Das Boot is the best movies on submarine warfare from the Axis point of view and by far one of most historically accurate war films that I've ever seen. Best way to watch it in German with English subtitles, watching the English dub is like watching one of those Japanese movies from the 80's with an English dub it just doesn't work.
You do realize there are some semi-major inaccuracies? Like the base they originally sail from wasn't under German control at the time the movie takes place in?
But...still...nobody notices that because it's such a good movie.
+1 on the dubbing opinion :yep:
Skybird
07-16-13, 05:27 AM
I wouldn't call it the best movie ever, but it is a very good one, and probably the best - most realistic - submarine movie so far.
Too many war movies paint war clean and tidy, and as entertaining popcorn movies.
I recommend to watch Das Boot as the 410 minutes miniseries, of which there are two versions. Second best option is the directors cut. The looser in this "competition" is the commercial first release to the cinemas, it cuts things too short.
Cybermat47
07-16-13, 07:51 AM
That's my favorite sub film.
:yeah:
BLASPHEMY!!!!
Jimbuna
07-16-13, 09:14 AM
Welcome and yes a great war movie indeed but one of many.
Actually U-571 is much better.
Spoon 11th
07-16-13, 10:41 AM
WWMD?
That's World War 1500.
Jimbuna
07-16-13, 10:42 AM
Actually U-571 is much better.
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AVGWarhawk
07-16-13, 10:48 AM
Actually U-571 is much better.
Oh my....
Das Boot is a great movie. Top shelf certainly.
Sailor Steve
07-16-13, 10:54 AM
Actually U-571 is much better.
Better than rubbing sandpaper on your eyes, maybe, but not by much. :O:
Sailor Steve
07-16-13, 10:56 AM
the 410 minutes miniseries, of which there are two versions.
410? The version I have is 292 minutes, which is just shy of five hours.
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Oh my....
you see Jim, the bait wasn't THAT bad.
2 more posts and I'll be replete
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Jimbuna
07-16-13, 11:07 AM
you see Jim, the bait wasn't THAT bad.
2 more posts and I'll be replete
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LOL :)
Ducimus
07-16-13, 11:15 AM
Actually U-571 is much better.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=132&pictureid=802
Skybird
07-16-13, 11:38 AM
410? The version I have is 292 minutes, which is just shy of five hours.
My fault, sorry. 310 I meant, but math is not my shining side...
Both series versions are almost identical as far as I know, the one was cut in 6 equally long pieces of 52 minutes, the other in 4, with the first three parts being almost twice as long each than the last one. I have no knowledge why these two cuts exist, they both were made for TV.
Red October1984
07-16-13, 06:52 PM
BLASPHEMY!!!!
No...actually not. I like US Fleet Boats better than German Unterseeboots. :O:
Actually U-571 is much better.
I know you aren't serious. In the event you are serious, I hereby +1,000,000 the three posts below.
Oh my....
Better than rubbing sandpaper on your eyes, maybe, but not by much. :O:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=132&pictureid=802
Sailor Steve
07-16-13, 07:10 PM
My fault, sorry. 310 I meant, but math is not my shining side...
Oh. Dang. I thought I was on to something new. :wah:
Both series versions are almost identical as far as I know, the one was cut in 6 equally long pieces of 52 minutes, the other in 4, with the first three parts being almost twice as long each than the last one. I have no knowledge why these two cuts exist, they both were made for TV.
The last time I watched it I tried to break it up into six parts of 48 minutes each (I assume the difference in length comes from opening and closing credits in each episode). I was fine until I had to switch discs and actually had to do some counting. My math is no better than yours. :dead:
I really wish they'd release it actually divided into the episodes. Five hours is a bit long for me these days.
Platapus
07-16-13, 07:41 PM
Better than rubbing sandpaper on your eyes, maybe, but not by much. :O:
Better than Crash Dive. :haha::haha::haha::O::O:
Red October1984
07-16-13, 07:57 PM
Better than Crash Dive. :haha::haha::haha::O::O:
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Jimbuna
07-17-13, 05:15 AM
Better than Crash Dive. :haha::haha::haha::O::O:
I wish I was as confident of winning the weekend lottery :)
Fubar2Niner
07-17-13, 09:42 AM
As far as sub films go I'd have to agree. Three more to take into consideration, land war tho.
Flowers of war ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1410063/ )
City of Life and Death ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1124052/?ref_=sr_1 )
both movies are based on the raping of Nanking
Third has to be
Stalingrad ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108211/?ref_=sr_1 )
This should definitely be watched in German with subtitles, imho.
Best regards.
Fubar2Niner
soopaman2
07-17-13, 09:52 AM
I think the appeal with Das Boot is the grittyness of it.
The attention to detail.
The characters.
Jurgen Prochnow was phenominal!
I love this movie, heck my avitar pic is from this movie! (Poor poor Johann)
I have been scouring the internet for the original German miniseries with english subtitles to not much success.
I feel like I missed alot of stuff with the subtitled movie I am familiar with.
I have been scouring the internet for the original German miniseries with english subtitles to not much success.
I have the miniseries recorded on VHSs. If you can get me a green card, I will happily give them to you. :)
soopaman2
07-17-13, 01:14 PM
I have the miniseries recorded on VHSs. If you can get me a green card, I will happily give them to you. :)
Well gay marriage would be an option in my state, but I am kinda married to a chick.:har: (j/k)
How about you just sneak over here, like the Mexicans do.:O:
Just catch a flight to Mexico city, and ask for "el Guapo. I need those tapes! ;)
Stalingrad ( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108211/?ref_=sr_1 )
This should definitely be watched in German with subtitles, imho.
one of my favorite movies.
the assault on the factory and the Marinovka scenes kick....:)
too bad many people confuse this film with Enemy at the Gates:nope:
a chick
that's why someone invented barter transactions :D
Just catch a flight to Mexico city, and ask for "el Guapo. I need those tapes! ;)
:har:
Red October1984
07-17-13, 04:19 PM
How about you just sneak over here, like the Mexicans do.:O:
Just catch a flight to Mexico city, and ask for "el Guapo. I need those tapes! ;)
He'll take you to a sewer tunnel and get you a green card.
Best part? Nobody will interfere. :D
Jimbuna
07-17-13, 04:55 PM
Really? :hmm2:
Red October1984
07-17-13, 06:35 PM
Really? :hmm2:
Yes.
You'll be on welfare getting 300$ worth of food for free before you know it! You'll have that iPhone you always wanted and that nice new car. :arrgh!:
Jimbuna
07-18-13, 12:13 PM
Can someone wire me $1000 for my flight please?
soopaman2
07-18-13, 12:43 PM
It's a British invasion!
We barely tolerated the Beatles, though they did grow on us, don' think you will get the same treatment.
I hope you like picking strawberries for a few cents a basket, otherwise stay.
Jose will teach ya everything you need to know,
Red October1984
07-18-13, 01:50 PM
Can someone wire me $1000 for my flight please?
El Guapo's cousin El Nino can get you a flight for free if you run some drugs for him and get some weapons from the US. :har:
soopaman2
07-18-13, 01:57 PM
Yes.
You'll be on welfare getting 300$ worth of food for free before you know it! You'll have that iPhone you always wanted and that nice new car. :arrgh!:
As tongue in cheek as was intended, it is not far from the truth.:timeout:
Though I would buy an android, not an I phone. :)
Jimbuna
07-18-13, 02:15 PM
It's a British invasion!
We barely tolerated the Beatles, though they did grow on us, don' think you will get the same treatment.
I hope you like picking strawberries for a few cents a basket, otherwise stay.
Jose will teach ya everything you need to know,
I'll work cheap and stop at Neals ranch...he's not all that far from the border in American terms :)
Red October1984
07-18-13, 03:22 PM
I'll work cheap and stop at Neals ranch...he's not all that far from the border in American terms :)
Sometimes it's hard to tell which parts of the Southwest are "friendly territory"... :timeout:
Jimbuna
07-19-13, 07:07 AM
A warm welcome is always assured at the Ponderosa :shucks:
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