JSGME (Jonesoft Generic Mod Enabler)

[Mikemike47]

JSGME related links:

JSGME Generic Mod Enabler (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=171237&highlight=jsgme) information and download link (Use link at top of page, do not use bottom signature download link.)

JSGME download only (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=4333)

[LOOK] HOW TO INSTALL MODS [LOOK] (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=180046) by Sober. Works for SH3, SH4 or SH5. Just change folder names.

Picture of activating the available mods and saving profile (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2119731&postcount=3864)by Silent Steel

stoianm How to install MODS in SH5 video tutorial (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1629507&postcount=26) Works for SH3, SH4 or SH5. Just change folder names.

JSGME V2.6 User Guide download link (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=3814)

Common JSGME errors and possible solutions (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2116262&postcount=3) (This thread will redirect you to SH5 for all common JSGME issues; Remember to come back here to this thread to post any questions for all SH4 JSGME issues.)
Use thread link here for SH4 specific file/folder issue (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2148044&postcount=9)s only (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2148044&postcount=9)

How to configure JSGME for working with more than one game, without having to install/copy it each time (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=1984867&postcount=4) by Gap

Golden rules for beginners. What we all have learned from experience (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2119977&postcount=26) by Gap

PM me if you find any errors or related links that you feel should be here. That way I can keep them on the first post of this thread.

Makes it easier this way when helping others. I won't have to continuously remember where I answer JSGME questions on individual mods anymore! Search option is not always the quickest answer if buried deep in a thread. Sometimes, others will not even try to read the documentation. Always referring back to these threads or copying another modders reply elsewhere. Took me a while to find them again.

[Traveller]

Hi. The first thread link you posted has a dead JSGME download link. A while back I uploaded a resource pack called Modding Tools and Utilities Compilation that contains the final JSGME 2.6 version.

Here's the thread link: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=203831

And here's another working JSGME 2.6 download link: http://www.gamefront.com/files/21681483/JSGME.7z

Traveller

[Sailor Steve]

That is because he thought it was important to post a link to the original thread, whether the link there was good or not, and I agree.

JSGME has long been available here at Subsim downloads.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=file&id=3951

[Mikemike47]

Hi. The first thread link you posted only has a dead JSGME download link in that thread. A while back I uploaded a resource pack called Modding Tools and Utilities Compilation that contains the final JSGME version. Here's the thread link:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=203831

Traveller

Thanks, I will have to update Neal Stevens again. We fixed that months ago. So that is possibly where the file moderator queue error came from.:har: Then I will probably add the Modding Tools and Utilities Compilation and stating JSGME is included.

Thanks again for Traveller mod for TMO.

[Mikemike47]

Added common error types and multiple configuration links to post #1.

[merc4ulfate]

I like using the program so I can set a mods list and then save it to play on the German side and then set a mods list and play on the american side. That way I do not have to load, unload mods all the time when I want to change. The program simply saves it as a different profile.

[Mikemike47]

Added activating available mods and saving profile picture to Post #1.

[TorpX]

It's a good idea to organize this information. JSGME matters frequently come up here. :salute:

[Mikemike47]

Leftover file/folder issues:
Disable all mods. Nothing should be left behind in "Your drive letter:\Silent Hunter 4\MODS\!BACKUP or "Your drive letter:\Silent Hunter 4\MODS\!INSTLOGS" folder. If there is something left in the !BACKUP folder, that is the path to follow and fix your problem.

SH4 Wolves of the Pacific:
The game is patched to version 1.4 which has file dates older than ????. Verify files at the root folder of Silent Hunter4, and at least the Silent Hunter4\data and all the data subfolders having dates older than ????.

Folder date changes give you a clue where to search first for files. See if any files are much newer than ???? in your stock game without mods. Newer files than ???? are the ones that can cause a problem.

SH4 U-boat Missions:
The game is patched to version 1.5 which has file dates older than Dec 2007. Verify files at the root folder of Silent Hunter4, and at least the Silent Hunter4\data and all the data subfolders having dates older than Dec 2007.

Folder date changes give you a clue where to search first for files. See if any files are much newer than December 2007 in your stock game without mods. Newer files than December 2007 are the ones that can cause a problem.

[Mikemike47]

Added information to post #1 and new post #9.

Can someone PM me with the date information I need?
Does anyone have SH4 Wolves of the Pacific version 1.4 only? If so, please disable all mods, then look around in the root folder and data folder and data subfolders. I need the latest file dates (month and year is good) as a reference point for JSGME issues.

[Mikemike47]

It's a good idea to organize this information. JSGME matters frequently come up here.
Thanks.

On a separate note, click on the common JSGME link and possible solutions link at post #1. Added blinking cursor comment under "JSGME Error Message something like" section.

[Mikemike47]

Added Gap's mod golden rules for beginners at post #1.

[captgeo]

I had a problem with JSGME as of late, I had the program refuse to run because it was in the folder and, in another main folder,here is my solution.

"ok, have figured out JSGME problem, with the new version of this tool, I had to unzip the download,place the folder in the game,unpack the folder the run JSGME as admin.

anybody else have this problem here is the solution, manual unpack the main folder "

[Rockin Robbins]

And keep in mind that JSGME isn't just good for Silent Hunter, I've used it with Grand Theft Auto San Andreas, Left4Dead, Unreal Tournament III, the Borderlands series, Fallout 3 and others. It's the swiss army knife of gaming help software!

[mike9606]

Well, I'm having issues with JSGME on my Copy of SH4 (With U-Boat Missions). For some reason if I try to activate large mods (TMO, FOTRS), it just freezes up. If I run as an administrator, it can partially activate it (Tested with FOTRS) but it still freezes, forcing me to verify the files via steam to fix my install. I am running the latest version and before it worked fine, so I don't know why it is messed up now.

EDIT1: Tried reinstalling JSGME, still does the same thing. It's quite annoying that all of a sudden it is refusing to activate these larger mods, mostly because it actually partially does it, forcing me to verify the files and redownload them as said above.

[Mikemike47]

Well, I'm having issues with JSGME on my Copy of SH4 (With U-Boat Missions). For some reason if I try to activate large mods (TMO, FOTRS), it just freezes up. If I run as an administrator, it can partially activate it (Tested with FOTRS) but it still freezes, forcing me to verify the files via steam to fix my install. I am running the latest version and before it worked fine, so I don't know why it is messed up now.

JSGME will show a message at the top "not responding" with big mods or a large number of mods. It is not freezing, give it time. Look at the windows task manager to see its' slow progress!

[Rockin Robbins]

Agreed. Our Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate Edition is 3.3 GB last I checked. That is going to take a LONG time to install.

I have a separate thread in the Wolves of the Pacific forum about making multiple installations and a lockbox so you never have to reinstall SH4 again. It uses a separate JSGME.exe in each game directory, along with MultiSH4 and Large Address Aware to show how to make completely separate save game and settings folders in /documents. It's a step by step video tutorial that doesn't skip any steps. If you'd like to link to it you're welcome to.

JSGME even works in my Ubuntu Linux installation (where this post is coming from!) under WINE.

A bit of history. Mr Jones quit developing JSGME back in the nastier climate of Subsim past, where he was, as was the custom then, ripped to pieces by jealous and petty people. Many, many top modders quit during the same time period and I hope Subsim never again descends to the level of sometimes nastiness that prevailed in those days. So if anybody's wondering why RFB, TMO, GWX4, RSRDC and many other mods are no longer maintained, remember, sometimes it would momentarily make you feel better to be nasty but sometimes there is a permanent price to pay. And the whole community must pay that price. Appreciate your modders!

[torpedobait]

A bit of history. Mr Jones quit developing JSGME back in the nastier climate of Subsim past, where he was, as was the custom then, ripped to pieces by jealous and petty people. Many, many top modders quit during the same time period and I hope Subsim never again descends to the level of sometimes nastiness that prevailed in those days. So if anybody's wondering why RFB, TMO, GWX4, RSRDC and many other mods are no longer maintained, remember, sometimes it would momentarily make you feel better to be nasty but sometimes there is a permanent price to pay. And the whole community must pay that price. Appreciate your modders!

:Kaleun_Applaud::Kaleun_Salute:

[Rockin Robbins]

And in tribute to the quality of Mr Jones' work, I just used JSGME to load up Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate 0.40 Public Beta, a giant 3.6 gigabyte mod. It loaded and ran flawlessly. Mr Jones never dreamed that his handiwork would be used to load up a mod that large.

In part due to insecurity about how JSGME would work with such a huge mod, GWX used an installer to mount the mod, giving up some considerable advantages of using JSGME, like using or not using the mod at will. GWX gold is only 1.33 gigabytes, according to the Grey Wolves' website. JSGME could have handled it!

Not only that but the Silent Hunter series is far from the only use for JSGME. It can be used to patch just about any game out there! Many, many modding communities know nothing about JSGME and would be incredibly enhanced if they used it.

Salute, Mr Jones!:salute: I'm sorry we didn't value you until you were gone from the community that you made possible.

[Jimbuna]

Oh Jaesen is still about elsewhere....I'll send him this pearl of positivity :up:

[Jimbuna]

And in tribute to the quality of Mr Jones' work, I just used JSGME to load up Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate 0.40 Public Beta, a giant 3.6 gigabyte mod. It loaded and ran flawlessly. Mr Jones never dreamed that his handiwork would be used to load up a mod that large.

In part due to insecurity about how JSGME would work with such a huge mod, GWX used an installer to mount the mod, giving up some considerable advantages of using JSGME, like using or not using the mod at will. GWX gold is only 1.33 gigabytes, according to the Grey Wolves' website. JSGME could have handled it!

Not only that but the Silent Hunter series is far from the only use for JSGME. It can be used to patch just about any game out there! Many, many modding communities know nothing about JSGME and would be incredibly enhanced if they used it.

Salute, Mr Jones!:salute: I'm sorry we didn't value you until you were gone from the community that you made possible.

Oh Jaesen is still about elsewhere....I'll send him this pearl of positivity :up:

Jaesen has asked me to pass on the following reply.

"Please pass on my thanks and appreciation."

[Rockin Robbins]

Salute to him!

Now I've been playing with JSGME lately to figure out some inconsistencies. And I've entered....the twilight zone. Of course we expect weirdness in a mod as large as Fall of the Rising Sun Ultimate, and we get it. One of our team members innocently suggested I try it on GFO, a small supermod.

So here was the procedure:


delete everything out of my SH4GFO directory
copy everything from my SH4Pristeen directory to SH4GFO to ensure I have all stock files
write enable everything. Run MultiSH4 and Large Address Aware, then JSGME
do a snapshot of game files
install GFO mod only
uninstall GFO mod
compare files


I came up with all files matching original files. Cool! Let's do it again.



install GFO
uninstall GFO
comare files

Either 7 or 9 different files! I'll post the video and you can see for yourself. That will have to be tomorrow. I'm living in the Twilight Zone! A program should execute exactly the same twice in a row, isn't that a reasonable expectation?

Please wait until I post the video just in case there's a stupid human trick in there that explains it, but if we find no error in the test procedure I'd like others to test and see what they get.
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa293/RockinRobbins13/smileys/animated_time_paradox_zpsyp9czdjb.gif

[Rockin Robbins]

Just to get the first video up as quickly as possible. Disclaimers: this is the first test with something other than FOTRSU. I used GFO because I understand it and it is the smallest of SH4 supermods. I surely have not eliminated all possible variables here: it's a first test. More will follow.

But what happens here is quite extraordinary. It's not a Windows problem because I don't run Windows. It could be a memory availability problem and I'll be eliminating that variable next. I'd say the likelihood is very low that it's a memory problem but until I eliminate that as a factor we have to consider the possibility.

It's pretty scary. The music (?) is too loud. Yada yada. But the results of this straightforward test are extraordinary. Here's what happens:


I enter my SH4GFO installation, delete all game files and transfer a new copy from SH4Pristeen. These are now certified original game files
I write enable everything after stupidly stabbing the cancel button by mistake and being unable to execute MultiSH4.
I run MultiSH4 to make SH4 save settings and saved games in the \documents\GFO folder
I run Large Address Aware to make \ubisoft\SH4GFO\sh4.exe use more than 2 GB of memory
I start up JSGME and save a snapshot. Then I quickly do a compare of the files against the snapshot to show that says no changes......because.......we know no changes were made. That validates JSGME's save snapshot and compare snapshot functions
I install GFO, then immediately uninstall it without passing GO or collecting $200 (or playing the game).
I do another file compare. Tada!!!!! They're identical and JSGME has restored the original game Yay!
Let's go for seconds: I install and uninstall GFO again, just as I did the first time, without passing GO.
File comare results: 7 files different from stock. Go figure.

Please see if you can spot any errors in the test procedure. And I welcome suggestions on how this test could be altered or other tests made to help understand what happens here.

https://youtu.be/SbVl6SOdbJM

[propbeanie]

I've been wondering about maybe copying the JSGME files after the snapshot is taken of Stock, and moving them "off-site" out of the directory, so that the JSGME executable can't see the original copies, then do a file compare utility on the copy and the actual JSGME files after the 2nd round?... Does JSGME need to be LAA'd?... You follow? Do a compare of the compare yourself, if it's even possible.

[CapnScurvy]

Let's go for seconds: I install and uninstall GFO again, just as I did the first time, without passing GO.
File comare results: 7 files different from stock. Go figure.

What are the 7 files that are different?

If JSGME had been developed longer, a needed improvement would have been to allow you to go directly to the "changed" file (NEW; DIFFERENT; REMOVED) to see them in a list, without needing to scroll through the 20,000 plus files that Silent Hunter has.

Other than that tweak. JSGME is an excellent program that has improved our modding community as much as S3D has.

Thank you Jaesen!

[propbeanie]

You probably already know this, but you can "sort" the list by clicking on the column headings, such as "Detail" and get the list sorted together that way, which would bring "Changed" up top and all together. Click a 2nd time, and you get "Same" up top. You'll have to do a bit of scrolling to find the "Removed" sometimes, but they'll all be together...

JSGME still makes life a lot easier than it would be without it, and I think we're actually pushing it beyond were it was ever intended to go, and it still does a good job, just that there's a few things to look-out for and be aware of. I've done some "fake" mods, with text files with different naming conventions, and I cannot get it to fail. Of course, my experiments have only been with maybe 1k of data, not 3+gig... One thing I'd like to see is a copy-able list, where I can select filenames in the list, and copy them to the clipboard for use elsewhere. As an aside, here's 3 lines from a snapshot, and it looks like CRC is used to check the files against each other:

E:\Ubisoft\FotRS Ultimate\um.dll 8a984e947532dfd9bf3c2ae31e5af5a6
E:\Ubisoft\FotRS Ultimate\Utils.dll b9fd268e57834298c2e17809d0ee4997
E:\Ubisoft\FotRS Ultimate\zlib1.dll 80e41408f6d641dc1c0f5353a0cc8125

I wonder if that is what gets implicated in this?... who recognizes how big of a CRC is used here? 8-bit? 16?? It checks for flipped bits in the files for the compare. Comparing one bit in some big files is way less than comparing a human sneeze to their lifetime...

I also would also like to again thank Jaesen for his app, and the spirit with which it was made and distributed.

[Rockin Robbins]

You probably already know this, but you can "sort" the list by clicking on the column headings, such as "Detail" and get the list sorted together that way, which would bring "Changed" up top and all together. Click a 2nd time, and you get "Same" up top. You'll have to do a bit of scrolling to find the "Removed" sometimes, but they'll all be together...

I show that in the video, clicking on the header and bringing the changes to the top.

JSGME still makes life a lot easier than it would be without it, and I think we're actually pushing it beyond were it was ever intended to go, and it still does a good job, just that there's a few things to look-out for and be aware of. I've done some "fake" mods, with text files with different naming conventions, and I cannot get it to fail. Of course, my experiments have only been with maybe 1k of data, not 3+gig... One thing I'd like to see is a copy-able list, where I can select filenames in the list, and copy them to the clipboard for use elsewhere. As an aside, here's 3 lines from a snapshot, and it looks like CRC is used to check the files against each other:

E:\Ubisoft\FotRS Ultimate\um.dll 8a984e947532dfd9bf3c2ae31e5af5a6
E:\Ubisoft\FotRS Ultimate\Utils.dll b9fd268e57834298c2e17809d0ee4997
E:\Ubisoft\FotRS Ultimate\zlib1.dll 80e41408f6d641dc1c0f5353a0cc8125

I wonder if that is what gets implicated in this?... who recognizes how big of a CRC is used here? 8-bit? 16?? It checks for flipped bits in the files for the compare. Comparing one bit in some big files is way less than comparing a human sneeze to their lifetime...

I also would also like to again thank Jaesen for his app, and the spirit with which it was made and distributed.

That's right. This is not a gripe session or a JSGME sucks session. We're seriously asking this program to do things that are pretty extraordinary and seeking to understand why we're getting effects we see.

JSGME's snapshot and compare functions appear flawless, and they make any errors quickly correctable. This is the mose reassuring takeaway from experiments so far.

I'm going to try using Large Address Aware on JSGME itself and see if we're dealing with memory overflow problems.

[Rockin Robbins]

Attention!!!

JSGME is not able to deal with large mods. However, I just ran Large Address Aware on JSGME.exe. I then installed and uninstalled GFO three four times in a row without any mismatches in the stock game files. If you are running a 32-bit operating system, anything GFO size or bigger will not work for you. If you are running a 64-bit operating system the fix is in!

Next, back to FOTRSU--3.6 GB of monstrous gobbeldygook--a tad more than 10,000 files.

[propbeanie]

Are you tired of testing RR? excellent news though...

[Rockin Robbins]

Tomorrow I run FOTRS Ultimate through the Large Address Aware JSGME Gauntlet of DEATH. Several times. I won't be making a video of that one.....:D
:D:D

[Rockin Robbins]

What are the 7 files that are different?

If JSGME had been developed longer, a needed improvement would have been to allow you to go directly to the "changed" file (NEW; DIFFERENT; REMOVED) to see them in a list, without needing to scroll through the 20,000 plus files that Silent Hunter has.

Other than that tweak. JSGME is an excellent program that has improved our modding community as much as S3D has.

Thank you Jaesen!
The seven files are in the video where I show how to sort the files by result and bring the anomalies to the top of the list.

[propbeanie]

Tomorrow I run FOTRS Ultimate through the Large Address Aware JSGME Gauntlet of DEATH. Several times. I won't be making a video of that one.....:D
:D:D
Awww ma-annn.... You know what'll happen if you ~don't~ video it? Something really ~strange~... If you tape it, it'll go smooth. :D

[fithah4]

Murphy............Murphy?...............is Murphy's Law here?.........

Be interesting if the 7 anomalies of GFO are the same line anomalies listed in FOTRS ULTIMATE are a link to the SH 4 pristeen copy. Maybe like you said adding JSGME after large address aware will correct this issue.

GOOD LUCK with the mad scientist computing!!:Kaleun_Cheers:

There IS an answer out we have yet to stumble over, fall, trip, upon it!!

Fith

[Rockin Robbins]

Murphy............Murphy?...............is Murphy's Law here?.........

Be interesting if the 7 anomalies of GFO are the same line anomalies listed in FOTRS ULTIMATE are a link to the SH 4 pristeen copy. Maybe like you said adding JSGME after large address aware will correct this issue.

GOOD LUCK with the mad scientist computing!!:Kaleun_Cheers:

There IS an answer out we have yet to stumble over, fall, trip, upon it!!

Fith
That was the interesting part. They were NOT the same. They were entirely different files. In FOTRSU it was ConteVerde and German flags. But GFO doesn't change any of that stuff. So those files were unaffected. In order for a file to be affected, JSGME has to replace that particular file with a mod file. Then JSGME must forget to change it back on the uninstall.

So in that respect it wasn't a fair test. I just wanted to find out if there was a lower limit to the size of a mod JSGME would have trouble with. And GFO wasn't small enough to find that limit. I was surprised by that.

Nobody tested more than Webster. He is the only supermodder ever to make an RSRDC mitigation patch to avoid being squashed like a cockroach when it was installed on top of GFO. I would have expected that he would encounter the problem. But if you weren't doing a compare and were just looking at game effects, with GFO the effects would be subtle. After all GFO is designed for an essentially unchanged game experience from stock. Anybody who thinks the stock game is crap needs to play GFO and find out how good it really is. GFO is a blast!

You have to remember than in 2010, when the golden era of SH4 modding died, 64-bit computers and operating systems existed, but nobody used them. 64-bit Windows didn't have drivers for enough hardware and if you were to be bold enough to use it you'd find your printer, monitor, keyboard, mouse, touchpad or any combination of those wouldn't be working. So everybody pretty much stuck with 32-bit Windows.

[CapnScurvy]

If you are running a 32-bit operating system, anything GFO size or bigger will not work for you. If you are running a 64-bit operating system the fix is in!

Are you telling us that you've tried the 32 bit LAA setup and it doesn't help. Or, are you just guessing?

You do realize that there's an additional "Switch" to throw for a 32 bit OS before LAA works??

You aren't making your procedures clear with your "test" results, if you've tested it at all.

[Rockin Robbins]

32-bit Windows can directly address only 3.2 GB of memory, period. Yes, you can make it seem like more by bank switching, but there's a lot of overhead to a bank switching scheme. The Large Address Aware module was specifically made for 64-bit Windows.

So maybe Large Address Aware could have minimal benefit for a 32-bit machine. Probably not, since it was designed for a 64-bit OS. In a week I'll have a 32-bit virtual machine to test it on, but there's a lot of time in setting that up, a disk drive to buy and install--just doesn't fit my priorities right now.

The question I'm asking later today is "Will Large Address Aware fix our Conte Verde and German Flags problems on my 64-bit machine? We'll address later the questions of whether FOTRSU is appropriate for a 32-bit OS and machine.

[propbeanie]

From my old days (pre-Win2k), if you had 4 gig of ram on your 32-bit OS machine, you could use one of those utilities, but you also had to change settings in the Boot.ini file for Win-2k or XP. You use BCDEdit in Vista, Win7 & 8. Thirty-two bit versions - not 64. I haven't a clue about 10... Both the program ~AND~ the OS have to be "aware", and still, some apps just don't like it and will crash.

Anyway, about the most concise site for that still is the AutoDesk Knowledgebase (https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/autocad/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/How-to-enable-a-3GB-switch-on-Windows-Vista-Windows-7-or-Windows-XP-s.html). I used to use that for video editing back when... Doing that on a machine with 2gig of RAM would be an exercise in futility and crash recovery.

[CapnScurvy]

I think you guys are barking up the wrong tree in thinking huge files make the reason why JSGME causes corruption in changing stock game files. Which moots the idea of testing JSGME with LAA and seeing if it does any better. I think you'll be wasting your time. It's nothing more than modders not following good modding techniques.

I just ran a little test. A 64Kb, JSGME compatible modification that only has two folders changed containing 6 total files. I copied the two FOTRS TLowRes/tex/German.dds-remove and German_m.dds-remove to my mod. I also copied from FOTRS..... TNormal/tex/German.dds-remove and German_m.dds-remove along with the new images it uses of the German flags (they contain the German Swastika)....German.dds and German_m.dds

I compared my present game files through JSGME "Compare Snapshot" to my original game files, all was in order. I ran the game with the test mod only. I viewed the newly changed German flags in the games Museum for the German ships, then exited the game. I deactivated the test mod, then ran the Compare feature again. The results were two files REMOVED. Yep, the two TNormal/tex/German.dds and its partner the German_m.dds were removed from the stock game.

I've had stools bigger than a 64Kb file!! Yet, this stock game corruption occurs with a very small file size.

But here's the interesting thing.....The two TLowRes/tex/German.dds files were intact and back where they belong after the "-remove" modification was used on them! What's the difference???

The difference is the FOTRS modder used replacement images in his mod of the same name that he also used the "-remove" flag for. There are no replacement images in the TLowRes/tex folder....there are in the TNormal/tex folder.

In this case, the modder simply needed to replace the original images with the Swastika images, using the same naming scheme as the stock game, and leave out the "-remove" files from the same folder. JSGME doesn't know what your trying to do if one pair of files make changes to the original, yet another pair ask for you to remove them?!?

Modder error, nothing more.

[Rockin Robbins]

I'm finding the exact same thing. However, without LAA being applied to JSGME.exe, loading and unloading GFO always results in errors eventually. With LAA applied, GFO loads and unloads properly every time. So even GFO is over the threshold of how much memory unassisted JSGME can handle. Applying Large Address Aware fixes it.

Round 2 LAA plus JSGME vs Killer FOTRS Ultimate in a death match. Verify stock, then install and uininstall FOTRSU. The same seven files are changed. Inspection reveals that all 7 files use the -remove feature.

As you say, on the German flags the feature is used improperly as substitute files would take the place of the originals anyway. In the ConteVerde, that is not the case. So I removed all the -remove files for the seven files. Instantly, LAA plus JSGME installed and uninstalled all 3.6 GB of FOTRS Ultimate correctly every time. 4 times done, 4 times correct.

So we can explain away the German flags issue. That's just a stupid modder trick. But the ConteVerde stuff isn't so easily explained. I'll just leave the stock stuff untouched there, but changing in a new radar silhouette to get the position marker. All will be right in Denmark, even though absolute full understanding isn't achieved.

And yes, large size rendered JSGME unreliable for restoration of GFO. LAA fixed that instance. It had no effect at all in the reliability of FOTRSU. It isn't a DOS or Windows error. I don't use DOS or Windows. So something isn't quite right in the -remove handling of JSGME and we don't care what it is. We'll work around it.

[CapnScurvy]

With LAA applied, GFO loads and unloads properly every time.

That's good to know...and to try LAA with the JSGME.exe to see how it works.

I know the creator of LAA, FordGT90Concept, is still on his Large Address Aware (https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/large-address-aware.112556/) thread from time to time. He just added his newest LAA for Net Framework 4.5 (Windows 10 enabled) back in July. Between him or one of the other tech savvy experts on the TechPowerUP forum should be able to answer any questions we may have.

[andyson]

Im only interested in linking the major "must have" mods, All the others can be found in the mods list link. :) The intent of this thread is to help those who are new find what they need most.


คาสิโน (http://phenocal.org)

[THEBERBSTER]

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[Jimbuna]

Welcome to SubSim andyson :salute:

[Rockin Robbins]

Im only interested in linking the major "must have" mods, All the others can be found in the mods list link. :) The intent of this thread is to help those who are new find what they need most.


คาสิโน (http://phenocal.org)
There are no "must have" mods. All mods are strictly optional and in spite of its defects, Silent Hunter 4 stands as a fine program in its own right.

The intent of this thread is to explain JSGME and any programs, like Large Address Aware, that contribute to JSGME's ability to install mods, all of which are optional. You do not need any of them. If they are useful, you may want them and JSGME is the means by which you can enjoy them.

[J0313]

Has anyone ever had an error message that says that JSGME cannot write to its .ini file when enabling or disabling a mod. This has happened with any mod so I know its not a mod problem. Any advice would be much appreciated.

[KaleunMarco]

Has anyone ever had an error message that says that JSGME cannot write to its .ini file when enabling or disabling a mod. This has happened with any mod so I know its not a mod problem. Any advice would be much appreciated.

no.

i have approx 7 or 8 installations of SH4 and SH3 and i have never received a JSGME error of any kind.

i suspect that the SH4 folder in which JSGME resides has some kind of R/W protection.

[propbeanie]

If you are doing another 'new' copy of SH4 for a different mod, and copied the MODS folder and JSGME over with the SH4 files, you will end up with a set of ini, backup and log files that do not match what is in the folders. If you have not installed any mods to the game yet, you can delete the "SH4GameFolder \JSGME.ini" file, the "SH4Game \MODS \JSGME.ini" file. There are two hidden folders in the MODS folder, "!BACKUP" and "!INSTLOGS" that could also be deleted, if this is a new copy of the game you are doing. The next time you run JSGME, it should recreate the ini files and hidden folders. If however, you already have mods activated, this would not work too well and should be avoided. You would be better served by a "fresh" install of SH4, and then adding mods.

[J0313]

Thanks for the info guy's. I will continue working with it.