New "No Ship Reflections" mod

[Fifi]

Hi,

Taken the idea from old 2010 mod by ddrgn and HanSolo, this mod get rid of boats water reflections not realistic with fog ingame.
Water reflections aren't fog affected in SH5, and we can follow a ship in fog just by its water reflection.
This cheating as seen below is gone with the mod:
http://img15.hostingpics.net/thumbs/mini_386427Lockingwith10value.jpg (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=386427Lockingwith10value.jpg)

First version for use with SH5 game patched v1.2 and/or OHII Full v2.2.
Fifi_NoReflections_incl Gap NDD Rocket:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/b0aal7e8553cm1v/Fifi_NoReflections_incl_Gap_NDD_Rocket.zip

Second version for use with SH5 game patched v1.2 + OHII Full v2.2 + RPM Hydrophone Merchants v2.0 by Macardigan.
Fifi_NoReflections_compatible_RPM_Hydrophone_Merch ants_2.0:

http://www.mediafire.com/?pqbhqp1lta328at

Third version for use with SH5 game patched v1.2 + OHII Full v2.2 + RPM Hydrophone Merchants v2.1 by Macardigan (including Gap NDD Rocket).
Fifi_NoReflections_compatible_RPM_Hydrophone_Merch ants_2.1 (incl Gap NDD Rocket):

http://www.mediafire.com/download/x6wkncxjptxlnly/Fifi_NoReflections_compatible_RPM_Hydrophone_Merch ants_2.1_(incl_Gap_NDD_Rocket).zip

Fourth version is for use with RPM Hydrophone Merchants v2.2 by Macardigan:
Fifi_NoReflections_compatible_RPM_Hydrophone_Merch ants_2.2_(incl_Gap_NDD_Rocket)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ui9jybz69nknjiy/Fifi_NoReflections_compatible_RPM_Hydrophone_Merch ants_2.2_(incl_Gap_NDD_Rocket).zip

Latest version for use with RPM Hydrophone Merchants v2.2.1 by Macardigan:
Fifi_NoReflections_compatible_RPM_Hydrophone_Merch ants_2.2.1
http://www.mediafire.com/download/7ujv3z0iksa3dyc/Fifi_NoReflections_compatible_RPM_Hydrophone_Merch ants_2.2.1.zip

Good hunting!

[Sjizzle]

good work fifi

[volodya61]

Note: i didn't update for Japanese boats! lol

I can make it for all the ships presented in the game now, I mean in OHII..
In two versions - with and without HunSolo's funnel smoke.. in my opinion FXU funnel smoke looks not realistic.. and FXU smoke is the same for all vessels..
If you need it, of course..

[Fifi]

I can make it for all the ships presented in the game now, I mean in OHII..


I added all ships i found in v2.2 for europe and not present in old mod, but i left all Japanese boats without modif.
I think i'll never see them? or am i wrong?
Is there an OHII campaign in Pacific? :06:

[volodya61]

I think i'll never see them? or am i wrong?
Is there an OHII campaign in Pacific? :06:

Monsun Gruppe :03:

Anyway, I'm going to make this edition for own usage (ship reflection + HanSolo's smoke).. so, if anyone want it I can/will upload it here or elsewhere..

[gap]

Monsun Gruppe :03:

Anyway, I'm going to make this edition for own usage (ship reflection + HanSolo's smoke).. so, if anyone want it I can/will upload it here or elsewhere..

yes, please :up:

[Macardigan]

I added all ships i found in v2.2 for europe and not present in old mod, but i left all Japanese boats without modif.
I think i'll never see them? or am i wrong?
Is there an OHII campaign in Pacific? :06:

(google translation)

Hi, fifi,

DC barrel fix
2 SC_Music_DasBoot
FX Update torpedoes (modified for torpedoes patches)
RPM Hydrophone merchants 2.0 -for OHII full v2.2- (english) <----------- This mod is useless because your mod overwrites files xxxx.sim.
_addon chart_RPM Hydrophone Merchants 2.0 -for OHII full v2.2-
Wordeees' Actual Footage Menu
No Ship Reflections

Hi Fifi,



Your mod is incompatible with "RPM Hydrophone merchants .."

We can fix it.

You mod has default values​​: "MAX_SPEED", "max_force" eng_power, eng_rpm "(inside .sim files), overwriting my mod.

Then my mod no longer works.

We can work if you put the correct values ​​of my mod into yours. Without affecting your mod.

I can give you the correct values ​​by Private message. These values ​​do not change core values ​​of your mod.


Option 2: Remove my mod of your list :_(

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EDIT: I have already installed and running (with changes). thanks fifi.:up:

[volodya61]

yes, please :up:

A little later :), between the our other projects :up:

[gap]

A little later :), between the our other projects :up:

:haha: :03:

On a side note, I wish we could tone down those reflections, especially at long range, without giving them up completely :hmm2:

[volodya61]

:haha: :03:

On a side note, I wish we could tone down those reflections, especially at long range, without giving them up completely :hmm2:

Yes, there is something to think about.. any fresh thoughts?
Just finished revision of Sea folder.. that's weird, I counted 98 objects for editing.. in the Fifi's mod just 67 :hmmm:

[Fifi]

Because i didn't include Japanese boats (they are many) nor all others sea objects (buoys, mines...)
I'll add all japanese boats soon, then. But little sea objects can keep reflections imo.

I don't know if reflections can be just tune down, because it's value is either 1 or 0...
Maybe 0.5 could tune it down? :06:

[volodya61]

Because i didn't include Japanese boats (they are many) nor all others sea objects (buoys, mines...)
I'll add all japanese boats soon, then. But little sea objects can keep reflections imo.

I didn't meant buoys or mines..
30 Japanese ships? I don't think so.. which folder Sea have you revised?

I don't know if reflections can be just tune down, because it's value is either 1 or 0...
Maybe 0.5 could tune it down? :06:

No.. just 'Yes' or 'No'.. 0 or 1 :-?

[Fifi]

which folder Sea have you revised?


The one from the old mod compared to the OHII v2.2...

[volodya61]

The one from the old mod compared to the OHII v2.2...

Then try to check game's Sea folder after mods were enabled.. and I don't mean/count clones..

[Fifi]

Added version compatible with RPM Hydrophone Merchants 2.0 by Macardigan :up:
Install last.

Then try to check game's Sea folder after mods were enabled..

I don't see what you mean my friend :oops: (damned language barrier)
In my list, this is OHII 2.2 wich comes with all the boats involved in game...(and in Macardigan mod too, but its boats are already without reflection in my mod) so i added the boats in my mod i found in OHII that were missing in the original No reflections mod :hmmm:
Excepted for the japanese boats (for the moment) all boats i encounter ingame (my career) doesn't have any reflections :yep:

[volodya61]

I don't see what you mean my friend :oops: (damned language barrier)
In my list, this is OHII 2.2 wich comes with all the boats involved in game...(and in Macardigan mod too, but its boats are already without reflection in my mod) so i added the boats in my mod i found in OHII that were missing in the original No reflections mod :hmmm:
Excepted for the japanese boats (for the moment) all boats i encounter ingame (my career) doesn't have any reflections :yep:

Do you make the mod for the game SH5 or for the mod OHII?

Install all your mods
Open main game folder SH5/data/Sea
There are all the ships what you should modded.. not in the OHII, not in the any other mod..

[Fifi]

Understood this time :up:

[volodya61]

Understood this time :up:

And better way is to make mod from scratch.. don't use previous others editions.. in this case, you will be sure that everything is done correctly.. :yep:

[Macardigan]

Fifi

The values ​​match. Tested and working. I have installed your mod after mine.:up:

With OHII v2.2 installed.

[volodya61]

From old 2010 mod by ddrgn and HansSolo called "No Ship Reflections incl EFS 1.2" , i updated it for OHII Full v2.2 and deleted the enhanced funnel smoke for FX Update users.

Fifi, I didn't checked all the ships.. just checked several.. how have you deleted enhanced funnel smoke? those ships I've checked still have funnel smoke by HanSolo :hmmm:

[Fifi]

Fifi

The values ​​match. Tested and working. I have installed your mod after mine.:up:

With OHII v2.2 installed.

Cool! :yeah:

I've updated first post with latest version compatible with your mod AND added Japanese boats without reflections.

how have you deleted enhanced funnel smoke?

Deleted the Library folder containing the funnel particules of HansSolo, that's all :)
Just kept the Sea folder where all boats without reflections, and added all missing ones i found (in OHII, and lately in all SH5 with mods activated as you told me -just very few missing)
I have yet to update first link (not compatible with RPM hydro mod) with few missing and japanese boats :D
Total is 75 boats folders (on 151 with all mods activated) where i found water reflection. All others folders can't be reflection adjusted (except mines/buoys...)

I'm sure i don't have the EFS anymore, cause ingame all my smoke are different now...

And better way is to make mod from scratch.. don't use previous others editions..

Pfff...too late now :haha::oops:

[volodya61]

Deleted the Library folder containing the funnel particules of HansSolo, that's all :)

It's not enough.. you should switch smoke controller fom one smoke to another in every .sim files..

I'm sure i don't have the EFS anymore, cause ingame all my smoke are different now...

No.. you steel have HanSolo's smoke because funnel_smoke.dat included in OHII.. and most of .sim files still controlled by it.. and even if you'll remove it too, nothing changes.. just most of your ships will be without any smoke..

[Fifi]

No.. you steel have HanSolo's smoke because funnel_smoke.dat included in OHII.. and most of .sim files still controlled by it.. and even if you'll remove it too, nothing changes.. just most of your ships will be without any smoke..

Lost again here...:hmmm:

[volodya61]

Lost again here...:hmmm:

Where are you lost?

[Fifi]

Because i still have HanSolo smoke because funnel_smoke.dat included in OHII and most of .sim files still controlled by it :doh:

So he changed values in the .sim files i'm using in Sea folder?:06:

[volodya61]

Because i still have HanSolo smoke because funnel_smoke.dat included in OHII and most of .sim files still controlled by it :doh:

When you removed particles_funnelsmoke.dat from the Library you changed nothing..
Most of your .sim files have controller - funnel.. at the moment these controllers are tied to the file particles_funnelsmoke.dat and not to the stock particles.dat..
You should switch each funnel controller in each .sim file to the stock particles.dat..
OHII contains HanSolo's particles_funnelsmoke.dat.. and most of your ships still have HanSolo's smoke..

So he changed values in the .sim files i'm using in Sea folder?:06:

It doesn't changed anything because all the changes were did long ago and you have changed nothing in the funnel controller..

[Fifi]

Ok, my brain fog is slowly fadding away :haha:

Didn't know OH was containing HanSolo's particles_funnelsmoke.dat :nope:

But it remains the smoke i'm seeing now ingame, looks different from before (with HanSolo library folder) :yep:

[Fifi]

Decided to back up HanSolo EFS 1.2 to the mod, to avoid any eventual smoke problem, and to solve my incapacity to edit all those files in relation with OH :nope::haha:

First post updated with new links:
- first link for use without RPM Hydrophone Merchant 2.0 mod
- second link for compatibility with RPM Hydrophone Merchant 2.0 mod

If Volodya wants (and have time) to share his eventual work on this (a version without EFS 1.2 compatible OHII 2.2 and RPM Hydro Merchants) he will be more than welcome and i'll add it too in first post :salute:

[Fifi]

Think i finally found a soluce to make mod from scratch with all boats involved ingame (with OHII 2.2 and compatible RPM Hydro Merchants 2.0) without reflections, and no EFS :cool:
Stay tuned!

[volodya61]

Ok, my brain fog is slowly fadding away :haha:
Didn't know OH was containing HanSolo's particles_funnelsmoke.dat :nope:
But it remains the smoke i'm seeing now ingame, looks different from before (with HanSolo library folder) :yep:

Because your initial mod was outdated and contained outdated file - particles_funnelsmoke.dat..
OHII contains newest one..


If Volodya wants (and have time) to share his eventual work on this (a version without EFS 1.2 compatible OHII 2.2 and RPM Hydro Merchants) he will be more than welcome and i'll add it too in first post :salute:

At the moment Volodya don't want to make anything.. Volodya makes his own full revision of HanSolo's&Ddrgn's mod and tries to do some tricks with the ship reflection..

Think i finally found a soluce to make mod from scratch with all boats involved ingame (with OHII 2.2 and compatible RPM Hydro Merchants 2.0) without reflections, and no EFS :cool:
Stay tuned!

Are you sure? most of the Japanese ships of OHII works with HanSolo's smoke at the moment..
I repeat.. for ships already using HanSolo's smoke: you should open each ship's .GR2 or .dat file in the Goblin, merge its .sim, merge particles_funnelsmoke.dat, merge stock particles.dat and change the designation in the Funnel controller..

[gap]

Are you sure? most of the Japanese ships of OHII works with HanSolo's smoke at the moment..
I repeat.. for ships already using HanSolo's smoke: you should open each ship's .GR2 or .dat file in the Goblin, merge its .sim, merge particles_funnelsmoke.dat, merge stock particles.dat and change the designation in the Funnel controller..

That's correct. But may I ask why you want to get rid of Hansolo's smoke, Fifi? What is wrong about it? :hmmm:

[Macardigan]

fifi

With OHII full 2.2 installed
No ship reflections (RPM Hydrophone merchants 2.0 compatible) ADDED TO MY MOD LIST LAST.


results:

It is a list that I have made ​​a month ago., I add smoke results you were saying.



AOTDMM/StormflySV big Modern Passengership: 81 rpm (passenger) 17 knots (NPL_HAP) NHP: 2756 ( 36) SMOKE .....NO Reflections
Hospital Ship ------------------------------------------------------ ?¿???¿? (passenger) 17 knots (NOSHP) (38)
C1-B type Medium Merchant---------------------------------99 rpm (cargo) 14 (48) NO SMOKE .....NO Reflections
C2-s-b1 Hull Large Merchant ------------------------------- 87 rpm (cargo) 15.5 (40) NO SMOKE .....NO Reflections
Hog Island type a freighter------------------------------------75 (liberty) 11 (32)
North Sands Large Steamer---------------------------------77 (liberty) 10 (north sands) (penguin) (34)
N3SA1 small merchant--------------------------------------- 106 (cargo) 10 (54) NO SMOKE .....NO Reflections
Rongel small split freighter----------------------------------- 87 rpm (cargo) 12.5 (kasagisan) (40)
Steel Viking Tanker............................................ ..76 (oiltanker) 11 (haruna) (33) SMOKE .....NO Reflections
SV medium freighter-------------------------------------------- 96 (cargo) 17.5 (NAMC) (46)
SV small modern composite merchant.................. 73 (cargo) 13 (taihosan) (31)
Troop Transport--------------------------------------------------- 94 rpm (passenger) 15 (tr_rawalpindi) (namc_rawalpindi) (45) NO SMOKE .....NO Reflections
Uekel Small Passenger Type------------------------------- ¿?¿??¿?¿ (cargo) 13 (tyohei) (45)
Large Steamer--------------------------------------------------- 76 (liberty) 11.5 (NLL) (NKL) (33) NO SMOKE .....NO Reflections
Large Steamer war supplies -------------------------------- 76 (liberty) 11.5 (NLL) (NKL_WarSupplies) (33) NO SMOKE .....NO Reflections
Liberty Ship------------------------------------------------------- 76 (liberty) 11.5 (NLL) (33) NO SMOKE .....NO Reflections
Victory Cargo----------------------------------------------------- 100 rpm (cargo) 17 (49) NO SMOKE .....NO Reflections
Middleton attack transport---------------------------------- ?¿?¿?¿¿? (cargo) 18.4 (75) NO SMOKE .....NO Reflections
Uekel Medium composite freighter----------------------- 86 rpm (cargo) 13.5 (akita) (40)
Ranger class tanker------------------------------------------- 90 rpm (Oil Tanker) 14.5 (42) NO SMOKE .....NO Reflections
Dale Class Fleet Oiler---------------------------------------- 100 rpm (Oil Tanker) 11.5 (NAO_Ditchmarchen) (49) NO SMOKE .....NO Reflections
Cimmaron Class Tanker------------------------------------- 96 rpm (Oil Tanker) 18 nudos. (46) NO SMOKE .....NO Reflections
Huge European Liner-----------------------------------------?¿???¿?¿ (passenger) 29 nudos (Queen Mary)
Large Liner------------------------------------------------------- ?¿???¿? (passenger) 23 nudos. (mauretania) (conte verde)



I have not finished ... I'm checking.




EDIT: Results without your mod installed: (compatible version with my mod)

AOTDMM/StormflySV big Modern Passengership: 81 rpm (passenger) 17 knots (NPL_HAP) NHP: 2756 ( 36) SMOKE ....no Reflections
C1-B type Medium Merchant---------------------------------99 rpm (cargo) 14 (48) SMOKE ....Reflections
C2-s-b1 Hull Large Merchant ------------------------------- 87 rpm (cargo) 15.5 (40) SMOKE ....Reflections
N3SA1 small merchant--------------------------------------- 106 (cargo) 10 (54) SMOKE .....Reflections
Steel Viking Tanker............................................ ..76 (oiltanker) 11 (haruna) (33) SMOKE .....NO Reflections
Troop Transport--------------------------------------------------- 94 rpm (passenger) 15 (tr_rawalpindi) (namc_rawalpindi) (45) SMOKE .....Reflections
Large Steamer--------------------------------------------------- 76 (liberty) 11.5 (NLL) (NKL) (33) SMOKE .....Reflections
Large Steamer war supplies -------------------------------- 76 (liberty) 11.5 (NLL) (NKL_WarSupplies) (33) SMOKE .....Reflections
Liberty Ship------------------------------------------------------- 76 (liberty) 11.5 (NLL) (33) SMOKE .....Reflections
Victory Cargo----------------------------------------------------- 100 rpm (cargo) 17 (49) SMOKE .....Reflections
Middleton attack transport---------------------------------- ?¿?¿?¿¿? (cargo) 18.4 (75) SMOKE .....Reflections
Ranger class tanker------------------------------------------- 90 rpm (Oil Tanker) 14.5 (42) SMOKE .....Reflections
Dale Class Fleet Oiler---------------------------------------- 100 rpm (Oil Tanker) 11.5 (NAO_Ditchmarchen) (49) SMOKE .....Reflections
Cimmaron Class Tanker------------------------------------- 96 rpm (Oil Tanker) 18 nudos. (46) SMOKE .....Reflections

[volodya61]

I have not finished ... I'm checking

:hmmm:
How do you checking this?
In game? or in .sim?
If second, have you merged particles.dat and particles_funnelsmoke.dat? because the ships can't have no smoke at all.. one or other smoke should be assigned in the funnel controller :hmmm:

[Macardigan]

:hmmm:
How do you checking this?
In game? or in .sim?
If second, have you merged particles.dat and particles_funnelsmoke.dat? because the ships can't have no smoke at all.. one or other smoke should be assigned in the funnel controller :hmmm:

hi Volodya
No, I do not know how to check it at the goblin, I'm doing in the game.

I'm just trying, visually.:up:



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[volodya61]

EDIT: Volodya, why not have the merchant smoke when I add the mod (compatible with my mod)))???

I think, because something wrong/incorrectly was done during editing the .sim files :hmmm:

[Macardigan]

I think, because something wrong/incorrectly was done during editing the .sim files :hmmm:

I agree, we should discuss this with Fifi.:hmmm:

[Fifi]

But may I ask why you want to get rid of Hansolo's smoke, Fifi? What is wrong about it? :hmmm:

Hi gap,
nothing wrong except i prefer the the version without EFS mod :)
I don't know if it's the vanilla smoke without the mod, or FX Update (?) but it's lighter and less brownish on my rig. Looks more realistic to me, even if it's not a big deal...
EFS is a bit overdone, and smoke is too easy to spot on horizon to me. But it's only a matter of taste!
I like the smoke i get now:
http://img15.hostingpics.net/thumbs/mini_900023Funnelsmoke.jpg (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=900023Funnelsmoke.jpg)

So, forget about first attempt using old mod (No Reflections incl EFS 2.1).
I don't use those files anymore.
Starting from scratch, i'm taking all boats i have in my game with my mods activated, and delete manually all water reflection found in their .sim file (when any).
Only the OHII additional ones will obviously keep the HansSolo smoke, as they were made with it, and using it as before.
It has to work fine this time, and first test on my rig seems ok (boats who lost smoke before get it back, and smoke is back to lighter black/grey color for the ones not OHII affected)

EDIT:
New and last version updated on first post.

[Fifi]

Mod is working fine now, and Macardigan tested it with RPM Hydrophone Merchants 2.0 without any issue :woot:

[7thSeal]

I've been using it for a little while now and haven't seen any problems with it. Thanks for sharing your work with us Fifi. :up:

[Fifi]

You're welcome and thanks to you 7thSeal :sunny:

[Macardigan]

You're welcome and thanks to you 7thSeal :sunny:


Fifi, seeing no incompatibility problems, I will add your mod as compatible on the main post my mod.:up:

[Fifi]

Fifi, seeing no incompatibility problems, I will add your mod as compatible on the main post my mod.:up:

Thanks mate:sunny:
But my little finger tell me we are going to see an other new no reflection mod even better! :D...

[Macardigan]

google translation

Hi, fifi. Enter these changes on this ship.

for the version compatible with my mod.

NAGC_C2Appalachian

max_speed: 16.4
max_force: 320
eng_power: 12000
eng_rpm: 45

I'll upload the version "RPM Hydrophone 2.1" that has more ships.

when you get updated and reuploaded, you let me know.

thanks.

[Fifi]

^^ Done Mac :up:
And first post updated for your V2.1

[Choum]

Your new version include the :
OPEN HORIZONS II v2.2 - ORP Gryf and HMS Rocket no reflection patch ?

Which is a fix of your mod to add no reflection to ORP Gryf and HMS Rocket -OH 2 ship)

[Fifi]

Nope, didn't include it. Still a Gap fix :-?

[Macardigan]

fifi, RPM HYDROPHONE MERCHANTS 2.1 ready.

:up:

NEW (may/30/2013): - Added new vessels to the table of revolutions per minute. Modified main Mod. Uninstall previous version "2.0" before installing 2.1.
NEW (may/30/2013): -The following vessels have been added to the RPMtable: - LANDING SHIP TANK - Amphibious Group Command Ship - Medium Troopship - Rawalpindi armed merchant
NEW (may/30/2013): - Added RPMtable in 4 languages:
"RPMdarktable_2.1_English_OHIIv2.2" (by default)
"RPMdarktable_2.1_Spanish_OHIIv2.2"
"RPMdarktable_2.1_deutsch_OHIIv2.2"
"RPMdarktable_2.1_francais_OHIIv2.2" <----- ship names in French.

[Fifi]

Your new version include the :
OPEN HORIZONS II v2.2 - ORP Gryf and HMS Rocket no reflection patch ?

Which is a fix of your mod to add no reflection to ORP Gryf and HMS Rocket -OH 2 ship)

OK, updated first post with Fifi_NoReflections_incl Gap NDD Rocket, and Fifi_NoReflections_compatible_RPM_Hydrophone_Merch ants_2.1 (incl Gap NDD Rocket)...

Didn't updated for RPM hydro v2.0, as it's outdated now :03:

[Macardigan]

fifi, you have a PM. :D

[Fifi]

Ok, thanks Mac! :)

Fifi_NoReflections_compatible_RPM_Hydrophone_Merch ants_2.1 (incl Gap NDD Rocket) in first post updated with new Macardigan NLST_transport value.

[Fifi]

See post #1
Added Fifi_NoReflections_compatible_RPM_Hydrophone_Merch ants_2.2_(incl_Gap_NDD_Rocket) for new version 2.2 of Macardigan mod :up:
(Macardigan has to put his new version online yet :))

[Macardigan]

fifi. you have 2 new private messages.:O:

Got a link on private message to modify some files to update the version "fifi_noreflections_compatible RPM ... to version 2.2.1


edit: link here: http://www.mediafire.com/download/zk1p90longf5g30/pa_fifi_RPM_2.2.1.7z

you need to modify ".sim" files and add in your mod.

[Fifi]

Ok, will do soon :up:

[Fifi]

First post updated compatible with latest RPM mod :salute:

Edit: after a misunderstood with Macardigan, i have to redo the new version. I'll update the mod link as soon as possible.

[Fifi]

New link avalaible for no reflections with latest RPM mod :up: