Falklands/Malvinas latest, help from God sought. [Archive]

Herr-Berbunch

03-18-13, 11:19 AM

It was only a matter of time, but she's been quicker off the mark than I thought she would be!!! :nope:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21835363

Argentine President Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner says she has asked for the Pope's intervention in the Falklands dispute between her country and the UK.

Again, this isn't a thread for bashing other nationalities, keep it sensible and decent.

Synthfg

03-18-13, 11:28 AM

It was only a matter of time, but she's been quicker off the mark than I thought she would be!!! :nope:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21835363

Again, this isn't a thread for bashing other nationalities, keep it sensible and decent.

Apart from Prey, what on earth does she think he can do

Tribesman

03-18-13, 11:29 AM

Apart from Prey, what on earth does she think he can do
Perform miracles?

BossMark

03-18-13, 11:49 AM

I suppose Mr Pope could speak to his lord and master but I don't think that would do much good.

geetrue

03-18-13, 12:04 PM

These two were on GMA (good morning america) this morning with the news that she was the first important vip person the new pope had received,
but they went on to say that while he was just a cardinal they had been at odds with each other over something undisclosed.

Sounds like she is saying to the pope, "hey if you treat me right on this favor then I will treat you right"

This pope has a lot going for him that's for sure, but is it God?

Time will tell :yep:

Jimbuna

03-18-13, 12:07 PM

She must be getting a little desperate...anything to divert the voting masses what kind of economic mess her country is in.

The two also kissed, and Mrs Kirchner remarked afterwards: "Never in my life has a pope kissed me!''

Hardly surprising...simply look at the mirror dear.

August

03-18-13, 02:10 PM

Visiting the Vatican, Ms Fernandez said she had asked the Pope to promote dialogue between the two sides.

I don't know what there is to talk about:

Argentina: "Give us those islands"
Britain: "No"

End of story...

TLAM Strike

03-18-13, 02:16 PM

Quite sure the Catholic Church can't tell the British Crown what to do. I think the fought a war or two over that. :03:

Tribesman

03-18-13, 02:19 PM

I don't know what there is to talk about:

Argentina: "Give us those islands"
Britain: "No"

End of story...
I don't know what there is to talk about:

"No taxation without representaion"
"No"

End of story.....

Tribesman

03-18-13, 02:21 PM

Quite sure the Catholic Church can't tell the British Crown what to do. I think the fought a war or two over that.
You can't rule it out, after all when Blair was PM he had a hotline from god.

STEED

03-18-13, 02:24 PM

Cristina Fernandez, I know your barking mad you don't have to prove it anymore. :doh::haha:

Oberon

03-18-13, 02:48 PM

Holy war over the Malvinas, eh?

Deus vult! :haha:

(Note: I am joking)

kraznyi_oktjabr

03-18-13, 03:12 PM

I don't know what there is to talk about:

Argentina: "Give us those islands"
Britain: "No"

End of story...Add to that fact that islanders recently voted on this issue. In referendum whether to keep current overseas territory status 99.80% voted 'Yes' (1513 votes) while 0.20% voted 'No' (3 - three - votes).

Tribesman

03-18-13, 03:28 PM

Add to that fact that islanders recently voted on this issue.
Ireland voted for Home rule, never happened.
Ireland voted for independence, never happened
some in the six counties are pushing for another vote, no matter what the vote the result may never be enacted and they may vote again and again and it may never get enacted.
Hong Kong never even got to have a vote on their status.

The Falkland vote means just what it says on the day, on the morning after it becomes irrelevant apart from as a historical reference.

Twin Screws

03-18-13, 03:32 PM

The two also kissed, and Mrs Kirchner remarked afterwards: "Never in my life has a pope kissed me!''I doubt many men have kissed her at all, apart from blind ones.

Hong Kong never even got to have a vote on their statusHong Kong was only on 'Lease' to Britain, the contract stated when & on what terms that 'Lease' would end.

Tribesman

03-18-13, 04:52 PM

Hong Kong was only on 'Lease' to Britain, the contract stated when & on what terms that 'Lease' would end.
No it wasn't, I suggest you check the terms of the leases and which territories they covered.
You will no doubt note that the walled city in the new territories was never leased to Britain and that Hong Kong island itself and the land south of the new territories were not under lease from China.

Diopos

03-18-13, 05:03 PM

Add to that fact that islanders recently voted on this issue. In referendum whether to keep current overseas territory status 99.80% voted 'Yes' (1513 votes) while 0.20% voted 'No' (3 - three - votes).

But those three votes were the Holy Trinity!

:)

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Cybermat47

03-18-13, 07:11 PM

But those three votes were the Holy Trinity!

:)

.

I don't think that God's eligible to vote, though. He isn't a citizen of any country!

Damn beuracracy! :/\\!!

Tribesman

03-19-13, 03:39 AM

I don't think that God's eligible to vote, though. He isn't a citizen of any country!

Since she is omnipresent she is a citizen of all countries.

HunterICX

03-19-13, 06:18 AM

Holy war over the Malvinas, eh?

Deus vult! :haha:

(Note: I am joking)

No you're not!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkL9SB06Tpc

HunterICX

Twin Screws

03-19-13, 07:31 AM

No it wasn't, I suggest you check the terms of the leases and which territories they covered.
You will no doubt note that the walled city in the new territories was never leased to Britain and that Hong Kong island itself and the land south of the new territories were not under lease from China.

Besides that, you also have the fact that the citizens of Hong Kong never stood up as one body & stated publicly that they wished to remain a British dependancy, something that the Falklands have been doing for decades.

Another point (& it's a big one) Hong Kong wasn't first settled by the British, unlike the Falklands.

Tribesman

03-19-13, 07:41 AM

Besides that
You mean besides your very basic error?

you also have the fact that the citizens of Hong Kong never stood up as one body & stated publicly that they wished to remain a British dependancy
You mean that the British governement never allowed a referendum don't you.

something that the Falklands have been doing for decades.
Are these the decades including the British government stripping them of their passport rights without heeding their objections or are these a different Falklands you are on about?

Another point (& it's a big one) Hong Kong wasn't first settled by the British, unlike the Falklands.
You should know full well that first settlement happens to be a matter of dispute.

August

03-19-13, 08:46 AM

Another point (& it's a big one) Hong Kong wasn't first settled by the British, unlike the Falklands.

Exactly. Can't argue that the British weren't there long before the Argentinians.

Tribesman

03-19-13, 08:56 AM

Exactly. Can't argue that the British weren't there long before the Argentinians.
Incorrect, the French were there first, they ceded their claim to the Spanish and the Spanish ceded their claim to Argentina.
That means that the Argentinian claim predates the British claim as it is a territorial legacy issue.

HundertzehnGustav

03-19-13, 09:21 AM

It is the land of god.
and God is with the british.
because....
errrr...
gotta go. Phone's ringing.

That woman is Nuts.
The Pope is Nuts.

This thread is pointless.

Betonov

03-19-13, 09:24 AM

That means that the Argentinian claim predates the British claim as it is a territorial legacy issue.

It's a natural resource and voter gathering (on both sides) issue.

Synthfg

03-19-13, 09:42 AM

Incorrect, the French were there first, they ceded their claim to the Spanish and the Spanish ceded their claim to Argentina.
That means that the Argentinian claim predates the British claim as it is a territorial legacy issue.

Nice little video which covers the history

http://youtu.be/6tfvfsZaMsY

Herr-Berbunch

03-19-13, 10:00 AM

Since she is omnipresent she is a citizen of all countries.

That doesn't explain why at a Christening the other week the vicar said that it could only be done in a church 'to be in front of god'.

Oh, the hypocracy of religions. :D

And this is the first thread I've created where somebody has said it's pointless. Although some may have thought it.

Tribesman

03-19-13, 10:30 AM

Nice little video which covers the history

Are you trying to prove that the Heritage foundation are brainless muppets?

That doesn't explain why at a Christening the other week the vicar said that it could only be done in a church 'to be in front of god'.

Oh, the hypocracy of religions. :D

Herr Berbunch, you could have got them to do an open air christening in Galway, just dip the baby in the river jordan.
Might be a bit cold yet though.

Nippelspanner

03-19-13, 10:51 AM

Apart from Prey, what on earth does she think he can do

Well, Im not into religion nor do I care about any pope but back in the 60's during the cuban missile crisis? Guess who negotiated with the US and Russia. Pope John Paul II.

In many documentations about this topic it was mentioned that his negotiations have been what saved us some "bright moments".

I can't say how accurate those reports are though.

I (want to) believe it, so the church finally did something good... But that's just me.

CaptainHaplo

03-19-13, 10:59 AM

I doubt many men have kissed her at all, apart from blind ones.

Actually, she isn't bad looking for her age. I would say she probably was a bit of a hottie in her time. Dumb as a brick then and now - or maybe not. I don't know her. But say what you want - she is better looking than Merkel!

Herr-Berbunch

03-19-13, 11:07 AM

Herr Berbunch, you could have got them to do an open air christening in Galway, just dip the baby in the river jordan.
Might be a bit cold yet though.

That couldn't be any worse that the service we received.

To start with the vicar was having a fag outside the main door when the guests were arriving. He said it'd last 25 minutes, but there'd be some humerous parts in there - it lasted just over 10, fortunately, and there was absolutely nothing funny. He started by saying it wasn't a Christening, as the parents didn't come to church, but a thanksgiving for the birth of the baby, and promptly forgot the child's name each and every time (maybe this was what he thought passed for humour?). He said that in previous times the women weren't allowed to go home from the hospital, but had to go to church first as they were 'unclean' - so mother's are inherently unclean? Did all mothers throughout time give birth in a hospital? (We had a home-birth, much better)

Part of the service was a passage about 'bringing the children to me, so I can lay my hands on them' - afterwards everyone said they were thinking about Jimmy Savile at this point.

Just dire. :nope:

geetrue

03-19-13, 11:19 AM

Actually, she isn't bad looking for her age. I would say she probably was a bit of a hottie in her time. Dumb as a brick then and now - or maybe not. I don't know her. But say what you want - she is better looking than Merkel!

It's refreshing to find someone that talks good about someone while everyone else is bashing them :up:

August

03-19-13, 01:55 PM

It's refreshing to find someone that talks good about someone while everyone else is bashing them :up:

Agree 100%. People ought to keep their ageism and sexism to their selves.

Cybermat47

03-19-13, 04:00 PM

Since she is omnipresent she is a citizen of all countries.

God point :D

Sailor Steve

03-19-13, 04:05 PM

Well, Im not into religion nor do I care about any pope but back in the 60's during the cuban missile crisis? Guess who negotiated with the US and Russia. Pope John Paul II.
That was John XXIII. John Paul II became pope in 1978.