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Bubblehead1980

02-20-13, 12:26 PM

I remember back during the heated debates that occurred here in GT of the monstrosity of a law known as obamacare, that I raised a point about a provision in there essentially building a civillian army and was chided, berated, etc by many, liberals and some alleged conservatives. Guess what? it has happened. The first class has graduated and sure they will churn out many more over next few years. They are purposely recruiting naive 18, 19, 20 years olds as it is easy to brainwash them.This is not needed for any other reason than obama wants his own personal army with loyalty to him and him alone in the even something major happens, such as economic collapse etc.

I will admit factcheck.org has what seems to be reasonable explanations but factcheck.org is part of the Annenberg foundation, which has strong ties to obama.:hmm2: They claim the FEMA corps can not carry guns, they why train them with airsoftor actual guns? No cause for it if they have no type of LE or military function as claimed. They claim the mass ordering of ammo by DHS is normal.Things just seem to fit together, open your eyes.

"WHY DIDN'T THE MEDIA CARRY THIS STORY?

On September 13, 2012, the Dept of Homeland Security graduated its first class of FEMA Corps youth, aka the Homeland Youth. Image courtesy of DHS.gov.

The federal government calls them FEMA Corps. But they conjure up memories of the Hitler Youth of 1930’s Germany . Regardless of their name, Obama’s Dept of Homeland Security has just graduated its first class of 231 Homeland Youth! Kids, aged 18-24 and recruited from the President’s AmeriCorp volunteers, they represent the first wave of DHS’s “Youth Corps”, designed specifically to create a full time, paid, standing army of FEMA Youth across the country!

On September 13, 2012, the Department of Homeland Security graduated its first class of FEMA Corps first-responders, “Homeland Youth”. While the idea of having a volunteer force of tens of thousands of volunteers scattered across the country to aid in times of natural disasters sounds great, the details and timing of this new government army is somewhat curious, if not disturbing!

DHS raising an armed army!

The first problem one finds with this ‘new army’ is the fact that they are mere children. Yes, 18 is generally the legal age a person can sign a contract, join the military or be tried as an adult. But ask any parent – an 18, 20 or even a 24 year-old is still a naïve, readily-influenced kid.

The second problem with this announcement and program is its timing. Over the past two years, Obama has signed a number of Executive Orders suspending all civil and Constitutional rights and turning over management of an America under Martial Law to FEMA!

Also in that time, domestic federal agencies under DHS, including FEMA, have ordered billions of rounds of ammunition as well as the corresponding firearms. Admittedly, these new weapons and ammunition are not to be used in some far-off war or to fight forest fires in California , but right here on the streets of America !

Strange Armored Fighting Vehicles

Individuals around the US have begun reporting the site of strange, new, heavily-armed FEMA fighting vehicles.What would a disaster relief agency like FEMA need with 2,500 brand new GLS armored fighting vehicles?According to the agency’s own mandate, as well as Obama’s recent Executive Order, the answer is‘population control’ during a time of Martial Law." A picture is worth a thousand words.This is an official DHS photo.

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Takeda Shingen

02-20-13, 12:29 PM

Wow. The election sent Bubblehead into the abyss of full-blown conspiracy. And there he goes.......

Bubblehead1980

02-20-13, 12:39 PM

Wow. The election sent Bubblehead into the abyss of full-blown conspiracy. And there he goes.......

Evidence is pretty clear....where there is smoke, there is fire.

Bilge_Rat

02-20-13, 12:44 PM

so you think Obama is planning to take over in a coup and name himself president for life with dictatorial powers?

..not a bad idea actually, he can't do worse than the clowns in Congress now. :hmmm:

Tribesman

02-20-13, 12:44 PM

So this is poor bubbles latest swallowing of a crazy conpiracy chain e-mail.
Congratulations bubbles, your secret army of Obamas nazi dentists is a 2009 picture of some Boy Scouts taking part in a program they have done for 60 years :rotfl2:

Takeda Shingen

02-20-13, 12:44 PM

Evidence is pretty clear....where there is smoke, there is fire.

Except where the evidence is a lie.

http://factcheck.org/2012/11/did-fema-create-a-youth-army/

But you already headed that one off premtively by saying but...but..that's all a lie.

You're young, impressionable and listening to the Glenn Becks of the world. I would tell you that this is not a good thing, but I don't expect that you would listen; you haven't before.

Dowly

02-20-13, 01:03 PM

Blaa Blaa Blaa Blaa Blaa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPa5oVG-nII

:nope:

Sailor Steve

02-20-13, 01:04 PM

And he still doesn't get it.

geetrue

02-20-13, 01:22 PM

The good news is that we only have 3 and half years left till Biden gets elected :woot:

A lot of things have changed since you were gone bubblehead we no long say the "O" word here there is a special code we use now so that the new fema corps doesn't know what we are up to.

We just simply say the word "bama" and eveyone not in the know thinks we are talking about football. :know:

nikimcbee

02-20-13, 01:31 PM

The good news is that we only have 3 and half years left till Biden gets elected :woot:

You mean HRC?

Oberon

02-20-13, 01:43 PM

Wow. The election sent Bubblehead into the abyss of full-blown conspiracy. And there he goes.......

Quite impressive really. :yep:

Hottentot

02-20-13, 01:56 PM

And here I was thinking, in a naive surge of optimism after reading the title, that Bubbles would have made a thread about how he graduated and found a job for himself and then we'd all be like "hey, good job!" You know, like, uh, most people eventually tend to do when they have made it widely known that they are studying something?

Or I guess we could just use another thread of the same old. Yeah, what was I thinking really?

AVGWarhawk

02-20-13, 02:49 PM

Evidence is pretty clear....where there is smoke, there is fire.

No, there is firefighters. I work with FEMA everyday. There is no marching brainwashed youth with airsoft guns.

Don't drink the juice.

The White House

02-20-13, 03:21 PM

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Please remain where you are. Officials with the DHS have been dispatched to your position in order to explain with further clarity what our goals are.

mookiemookie

02-20-13, 03:29 PM

This is amazing. I always wondered how paranoid conspiracy nuts got to be the way they were. This is like watching it happen in slow motion.

Penguin

02-20-13, 04:03 PM

No, there is firefighters. I work with FEMA everyday. There is no marching brainwashed youth with airsoft guns.

Don't drink the juice.

Don't believe this guy, folks! He just admitted he's one of THEM! :o

It was clear to me, when I saw AVG through my cool 80's Troof-sunglasses.
http://veryaware.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/THEY-LIVE-4.jpg

Get the real licensed troof glasses from me, for only $999, 2 for only $1997! :up:

AVGWarhawk

02-20-13, 04:12 PM

http://symatt.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/meddling-kids1.jpg

Takeda Shingen

02-20-13, 04:13 PM

:rotfl2:

I've never seen that one before. +100 to AVG.

Nippelspanner

02-20-13, 04:21 PM

Davuq did I just read!?

http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/728-computer-reaction-face-knife-stab-self-eye.png

Herr-Berbunch

02-20-13, 04:32 PM

Evidence is pretty clear....where there is smoke, there is fire.

Even there you get it wrong! :D

http://img.redwolfairsoft.com/upload/product/img/G-07-045-L.jpg

Stealhead

02-20-13, 04:38 PM

Don't believe this guy, folks! He just admitted he's one of THEM! :o

It was clear to me, when I saw AVG through my cool 80's Troof-sunglasses.
http://veryaware.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/THEY-LIVE-4.jpg

Get the real licensed troof glasses from me, for only $999, 2 for only $1997! :up:

My pair did not work I looked at a group of FEMA workers for 3 hours and they looked normal no crazy looking skeleton faces .I want a refund.

Sailor Steve

02-20-13, 04:47 PM

And he still doesn't get it.
I take that back. Tak is right. He's stopped marching in lockstep with the hard-core Right and fallen into full-blown conspiracy lunacy.

This is amazing. I always wondered how paranoid conspiracy nuts got to be the way they were. This is like watching it happen in slow motion.
Yeah, it's strange, sad and funny all at the same time.

Unless he doesn't really believe any of it and is just trolling. :-?

Penguin

02-20-13, 04:51 PM

My pair did not work I looked at a group of FEMA workers for 3 hours and they looked normal no crazy looking skeleton faces .I want a refund.

You only looked for three hours? Haven't you read the instructions, that says you have to look at them for 10 hours minimum, without blinking? So sorry, no refund. However I can help you: for quick troof-vision I can sell you the quick-vision-multispectrum-troof-goggles. Order them together with the tooth protection kit which protects your choppers from those Nazi-FEMA-dentists. I wear them all the time:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41JhUSnOvmL.jpg

Dowly

02-20-13, 04:55 PM

Hahahaha :haha:

Armistead

02-20-13, 05:03 PM

FEMA also stockpiles plastic coffins in many areas. These are for the govt. takeover, when they turn America into a commie state and us gun owners fight back......It's gonna be a civil war.....

AVGWarhawk

02-20-13, 05:28 PM

Ducimus

02-20-13, 05:30 PM

Everyone puts a lot of faith in FEMA. Sheesh....check the record...

FEMA is inadequate at best.

Wolferz

02-20-13, 05:39 PM

We're from the government and we're here to help.

Nine of the most disturbing words in the english language.:huh:

geetrue

02-20-13, 05:45 PM

Everyone puts a lot of faith in FEMA. Sheesh....check the record...

I think Bush is in on it ...

didn't ex-president Bush say, "Your doing a great job Brownie"

razark

02-20-13, 06:13 PM

FEMA is inadequate at best.
Not from what I hear. I recently read a rather convincing argument that FEMA is raising a private army, loyal only to Obama, that is going to enforce martial law.

And it just has to be true, cause I read an unsourced post on the internet!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Webcomic_xkcd_-_Wikipedian_protester.png

Bubblehead1980

02-20-13, 06:33 PM

Except where the evidence is a lie.

http://factcheck.org/2012/11/did-fema-create-a-youth-army/

But you already headed that one off premtively by saying but...but..that's all a lie.

You're young, impressionable and listening to the Glenn Becks of the world. I would tell you that this is not a good thing, but I don't expect that you would listen; you haven't before.

Factcheck is not accurate.Factcheck is part of the Annenberg Foundation, which has strong ties to obama, who sat on and chaired the board in chicago not that long ago.Yea, they are really going to tell the truth.

Sailor Steve

02-20-13, 06:35 PM

More Far Right Lunacy. If someone shows you're wrong, claim they're wrong. Can you prove even one of your paranoid claims?

Takeda Shingen

02-20-13, 06:36 PM

Factcheck is not accurate.Factcheck is part of the Annenberg Foundation, which has strong ties to obama, who sat on and chaired the board in chicago not that long ago.Yea, they are really going to tell the truth.

So what you are saying is that the photograph in your post is not of Eagle Scouts holding airsoft rifles, but rather a newly-trained FEMA Youth Deathsquad.

Oberon

02-20-13, 06:36 PM

FEMA death camps for all! Wooooo! :har:

Bubblehead1980

02-20-13, 06:45 PM

Say what you want, this FEMA army was in the law, now a few years later, they are making that obscure yet scary part of that law come to fruition.Add this in with the government hoarding ammo, push for absurd gun control, the "drills" in Miami, Houston etc , they are training for martial law.Obama is an opportunist, he is ready in the even something happens(or knows it will possibly) to come out on top. I understand it is difficult to fathom we have such things going on in our government but it's there for all to see.Paranoid conspiracy theory? no Just being vigilant. I will never understand why so many people thought Bush was just evil but give the actual evil guy(obama) the benefit of the doubt when he is doing things that are just so easy to see.

FYI I do not even listen to or watch Beck.I have sporadically in the past and at times he makes valid points.Unfortunately his crazy turns a lot of people off.

The point of the OP was to gloat a bit since everyone argued that obamacare did not create a de facto civillian army, well guess what? it did, the first class graduated according to the DHS website.Enjoy sheeple.

Bubblehead1980

02-20-13, 06:47 PM

So what you are saying is that the photograph in your post is not of Eagle Scouts holding airsoft rifles, but rather a newly-trained FEMA Youth Deathsquad.

They are graduates of the FEMA Corps or whatever they are calling it, they were recieving weapons and tactics training yet have no LE or military function? hmm makes no sense other than while they may not carry guns al the time, they are building them, and training them, they have the training and can easily be armed.There is no legitimate purpose for this, other than to have private civillian army loyal to the executive, basically what he called for back in 2008 and it was created under the "health care" law in 2010, they prob have class number 4 or 5 in training by now.Why no one sees the similiarities between the SA and SS of Germany in the 30's is beyond me.Perhaps you do and just want to give Barry the benefit of the doubt.Do I think he is plotting some mass genoicide? No, but I believe he is trying to create a tight power structure to keep himself in power in the even of disasters, attempts to remove him etc.Like his former chief of staff and now mayor of murderland(chicago) said, never let a crisis go to waste.

Takeda Shingen

02-20-13, 06:48 PM

Unfortunately his crazy turns a lot of people off.

Yo, irony.

The point of the OP was to gloat a bit since everyone argued that obamacare did not create a de facto civillian army, well guess what? it did, the first class graduated according to the DHS website.Enjoy sheeple.

That's okay. There are other airsoft teams to take down that Eagle Scout team. These guys look pretty tough.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5055/5393913749_c84c03373b_z.jpg

They are graduates of the FEMA Corps or whatever they are calling it, they were recieving weapons and tactics training yet have no LE or military function? hmm makes no sense.

Did you look at their badges? They're Eagle Scouts. And even though I don't know squat about firearms, I know enough that the orange on the muzzles indicates that the weapon is an airsoft rifle.

Bubblehead1980

02-20-13, 07:00 PM

Yo, irony.

That's okay. There are other airsoft teams to take down that Eagle Scout team. These guys look pretty tough.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5055/5393913749_c84c03373b_z.jpg

Did you look at their badges? They're Eagle Scouts. And even though I don't know squat about firearms, I know enough that the orange on the muzzles indicates that the weapon is an airsoft rifle.

They may be eagle scouts, perhaps brought into the FEMA Corps thing.I said they were airsoft guns in original post.They are young, sure they were trained with real weapons as well.Bottom line, they are supposed to have no military or LE function, basically act as relief workers, then they do not need weapons and tactics training but they have another purpose, train them so if they need to arm them, they can be.Basically.Indoctrinate them young, when needed, they should have loyalty burned into them, then arm them.

Sailor Steve

02-20-13, 07:03 PM

FYI I do not even listen to or watch Beck.
Lockstep nutcase tactic #1: Claim not to listen to the people you quote.

sheeple.
Lockstep nutcase tactic #2: Accuse the people who laugh at you of having lockstep blinders of their own. Of course you are right, and everyone else is wrong.

I will never understand why so many people thought Bush was just evil
Um, Patriot Act? Actually I never thought Bush was evil, just not very bright.

prob
Once again you show that while you claim to be a college graduate and law student you can't even write your own language at the high-school level. Normally this wouldn't mean much but in this case you're trying to show how much better you are than everybody else. With laziness like that you're not doing a very good job.

Why no one sees the similiarities between the SA and SS of Germany in the 30's is beyond me.
Perhaps because there aren't any?

The bottom line here is that you still don't get it. It's not about whether you are right or wrong, but about the way you try to say it. You still haven't learned that no one listens to you, not because you're an idiot, but because you insist on acting like one. You still haven't learned how to talk about anything without raving and insisting on your superiority. I keep hoping that someday you'll learn to interact with other human beings, but every time you pop in you make that likelihood seem ever further away.

Takeda Shingen

02-20-13, 07:05 PM

They may be eagle scouts, perhaps brought into the FEMA Corps thing.I said they were airsoft guns in original post.They are young, sure they were trained with real weapons as well.Bottom line, they are supposed to have no military or LE function, basically act as relief workers, then they do not need weapons and tactics training but they have another purpose, train them so if they need to arm them, they can be.Basically.Indoctrinate them young, when needed, they should have loyalty burned into them, then arm them.

No, Bubblehead. What happened is that some conspiracy theorist put a combination of half truths and outright lies together, slapped a photo of a youth airsoft team on it, captioned it ZOMG Obama Youth FEMA Deathsquad OFFICIAL PHOTO!!!111!11 and you got it in your inbox. You believed every bit of it and now you came here to say see I told you so.

Bravo, Bubblehead. Bravo.

Sailor Steve

02-20-13, 07:09 PM

They may be eagle scouts, perhaps brought into the FEMA Corps thing.
They are Eagle Scouts. Who says they have anything to do with FEMA, besides you?

They are young, sure they were trained with real weapons as well.
Who says that?

Bottom line, they are supposed to have no military or LE function,
Who says they do? If they're Eagle Scouts, then it's part of fun of training to be a real American.

basically act as relief workers,
Which, if they're not FEMA but only Scouts, then they don't.

then they do not need weapons and tactics training
But if they're Scouts then they can do that with no evil intent. It's part of the American Scouting system.

but they have another purpose, train them so if they need to arm them, they can be.Basically.Indoctrinate them young, when needed, they should have loyalty burned into them, then arm them.
Again, only you say that. You have yet to provide any proof.

[edit] And once again I see that I was late, and Tak said it better while being less verbose.

Armistead

02-20-13, 07:12 PM

When is Obama going to declare himself supreme dictator and send the FEMA youth out to take our guns?

Bubblehead1980

02-20-13, 07:12 PM

Lockstep nutcase tactic #1: Claim not to listen to the people you quote.

Lockstep nutcase tactic #2: Accuse the people who laugh at you of having lockstep blinders of their own. Of course you are right, and everyone else is wrong.

Um, Patriot Act? Actually I never thought Bush was evil, just not very bright.

Once again you show that while you claim to be a college graduate and law student you can't even write your own language at the high-school level. Normally this wouldn't mean much but in this case you're trying to show how much better you are than everybody else. With laziness like that you're not doing a very good job.

Perhaps because there aren't any?

The bottom line here is that you still don't get it. It's not about whether you are right or wrong, but about the way you try to say it. You still haven't learned that no one listens to you, not because you're an idiot, but because you insist on acting like one. You still haven't learned how to talk about anything without raving and insisting on your superiority. I keep hoping that someday you'll learn to interact with other human beings, but every time you pop in you make that likelihood seem ever further away.

You have have always annoyed me, conservatives have similar views as others, I am quoting no one and would appreciate you to stop such silly accusations, if I quote anyone I will use quotations, thanks.

Well lefties are blind to reality and I am right on this one.Why? This was in law, now it is actually happening..Look at the big picture, all the things happening.What good is action without an enforcement arm? Obama knows he does not have the loyalty of the military when it comes down to unlawful orders, its why he has been dismissing generals who say they would refuse an order to fire on US citizens.Local Law Enforcement in majority of places will no support him, hell in my home state of FL nearly every county sheriff signed a pledge to not enforce any gun laws as with many of Sheriffs across the land.What do they need? A large band of extra ignorant followers with tactical training, well they are in the process of forming these followers into a "national civillian security force" as he termed it in his 2008 speech.

Patriot Act was wrong and am against it, it was definitely a reactionary stain on Bush.However, this was more the doing of Cheney and other neocons who are just about as evil as the "progressives" but not quite.

Steve, my grammar, abbreviation etc on an online forum has nothing to do with it, it's like using slang, use it when appropriate.This is not a formal academic setting, so I do not take the care I would as say writing a paper.I would appreciate you to stop insulting me and offer some valid counter arguments, I know you are capable of this.

Takeda Shingen

02-20-13, 07:13 PM

When is Obama going to declare himself supreme dictator and send the FEMA youth out to take our guns?

Saturday. The kids are in school on the weekdays.

razark

02-20-13, 07:13 PM

Can anyone actually quote the portion of the law that was passed that creates this "private army"? I keep hearing that it exists, but I've never seen anyone quote it.

Takeda Shingen

02-20-13, 07:14 PM

Well lefties are blind to reality and I am right on this one.Why? This was in law, now it is actually happening..Look at the big picture, all the things happening.What good is action without an enforcement arm? Obama knows he does not have the loyalty of the military when it comes down to unlawful orders, its why he has been dismissing generals who say they would refuse an order to fire on US citizens.Local Law Enforcement in majority of places will no support him, hell in my home state of FL nearly every county sheriff signed a pledge to not enforce any gun laws as with many of Sheriffs across the land.What do they need? A large band of extra ignorant followers with tactical training, well they are in the process of forming it.

Repeating yourself ad naseum doesn't render your remarks valid.

Bubblehead1980

02-20-13, 07:17 PM

When is Obama going to declare himself supreme dictator and send the FEMA youth out to take our guns?

I imagine if/when a crisis arrives, he will take drastic measures.I could see him using a crisis as an excuse to stay in office beyond a second term.Really, do some research, analyze the man and how he thinks, it would not seem so far fetched.Like Duci woke up and did, look at the big picture.I am just waiting for it to happen, then everyone who did not believe will be "oh I am just shocked" , kind of like 9/11, well I am sure if I was not a kid back then and was aware of things in the 90's, it would not have shocked me, it was coming, plain to see that we would get hit on our soil.However, many people blind to threat were just sooo shocked.

Kind of like people who are shocked what an awful president BHO has been, really? it was easy to see during his first run, just sad.

Bubblehead1980

02-20-13, 07:18 PM

Sailor Steve

02-20-13, 07:23 PM

You have have always annoyed me, conservatives have similar views as others, I am quoting no one and would appreciate you to stop such silly accusations, if I quote anyone I will use quotations, thanks.
Okay, you don't quote him. You just say exactly the same things he says, and in exactly the same way, purely by chance. You still march in lockstep with the hardcore Right, and you still deny it.

lefties
The very fact that you use that word shows that you are just as much a "Rightie", and just as blind as you claim they are. You say others don't see it, but you don't see anything but what they tell you to. You see, only "sheeple" as you like to call them, adhere strictly to one side or the other. You cling rigidly to one side, but call the other side by the same name that applies to you.

are blind to reality and I am right on this one.
Only people who are blind themselves say things like that. "I am right!" People who think for themselves question themselves. That you don't question yourself is ample evidence that you don't think for yourself.

This was in law,
As Razark asked, can you cite this "law"?

now it is actually happening..Look at the big picture, all the things happening.
Like most conspiracy nuts, you're grabbing totally unrelated things and claiming to see a connection where there really is none.

u crank

02-20-13, 07:26 PM

Guess what? it has happened. The first class has graduated and sure they will churn out many more over next few years. They are purposely recruiting naive 18, 19, 20 years olds as it is easy to brainwash them.This is not needed for any other reason than obama wants his own personal army with loyalty to him and him alone in the even something major happens, such as economic collapse etc.

Just how many brainwashed people would you need to take over a country of 315,365,452 people? Couple of thousand? Piece of cake.

Sailor Steve

02-20-13, 07:29 PM

I imagine if/when a crisis arrives, he will take drastic measures.I could see him using a crisis as an excuse to stay in office beyond a second term.
You imagine. You could see. That's what a lot of the "Lefties" said about Bush, and before that you "Righties" said it about Clinton. You're right, you're imagining it.

Really, do some research, analyze the man and how he thinks, it would not seem so far fetched.
Like you did, through nutcase emails?

Bubblehead1980

02-20-13, 07:39 PM

You imagine. You could see. That's what a lot of the "Lefties" said about Bush, and before that you "Righties" said it about Clinton. You're right, you're imagining it.

Like you did, through nutcase emails?

No Steve, I read his book etc, know way more about that piece of trash than I ever wanted to.Know thy enemy I suppose. Know the man's background and life, it makes sense why he is the way he is and is not exactly the best thing for us.DO I think he is hitler plotting to kill everyone? No! Do I think he is capable of horrible things when his power is threatened or he sees a chance to gain massive power to further his agenda(because he knows whats better for you and I than we do, he is a collectivist, big shock lol) even if it means to hell with our constitutional and individual rights? Absolutely. Why do I know the man is racist? Well in his book he is openly racist towards white people and his life since them showed he still feels the same.From his comments during the whole professorgate/ ber summit thing, to his ridiculous policies at the DOJ concerning blacks intimidating whites at the polls(instructured his AG to drop charges, no investigate), his support in the trayvon martin case, supporting the little punk who attacked someone and got shot. Obama always prejudges on issues concerning race.Let's not forget where he went to church, his friends etc, the man is a racist, pure and simple.

Well Clinton holds many of the same crazy ideas, difference is Clinton understood the rest of the country is not a true believer and he was pragmatic, obama is not.Clinton did not aspire to be a dictator either, obama would love to have absolute power, it is in his nature.

Bubblehead1980

02-20-13, 07:43 PM

Just how many brainwashed people would you need to take over a country of 315,365,452 people? Couple of thousand? Piece of cake.

Sure, couple of thousand now, but what happens when it grows? Why do you think they want to take guns away? Several thousand armed against mostly unarmed or inadequately armed populace would work.Really, you don't see the big picture.

Takeda Shingen

02-20-13, 07:45 PM

I'm starting to think that this is a very convincing practical joke. No one can possibly be this stereotypical.

Okay, where's the hidden camera?

razark

02-20-13, 07:53 PM

A picture is worth a thousand words.This is an official DHS photo.

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http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/05/13/us/0000EXPLORERS_index.html

Your "official DHS photo" of the newly trained Obama Army is a 2009 picture captioned:
The Explorers, a coeducational affiliate of the Boy Scouts, have long prepared teenage members to become police officers and firefighters. Since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, many Explorer posts, working with local and federal law enforcement agencies, have added programs to train members in confronting terrorism, illegal immigration and border violence. Here, Explorers in a drill with the Imperial County, Calif., sheriff's office prepared to enter a building taken over by terrorists who had begun shooting hostages.It's also credited "Photo: Todd Krainin for The New York Times"
I know you might have a bit of trouble with the language, but seriously? Confusing "DHS" with "New York Times" or "Secret Private FEMA Army" with "Imperial County, Calif., sheriff's office"? You might want to check to see if your education is worth the money being spent on it. I paid $20 for my doctorate. You might want to check that route.

You're
A. Being dishonest,
B. Listening to people and taking what they say without checking up on actual facts, or
C. Dumber than
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=442&pictureid=6377

Tribesman

02-20-13, 07:55 PM

I will try to find it, I quoted it in old posts on here, would have to go back to 2010 though.
So to support your interpretation of a 2010 law you posted a picture of some boy scouts from 2009?:har::har::har::har::har:

But please do dig up that old topic again, it was really funny.

Sailor Steve

02-20-13, 07:55 PM

No Steve...the man is a racist, pure and simple.
How does one even begin to reply to a mess like that? A jumble of confused thoughts that make no sense?

difference is Clinton understood the rest of the country is not a true believer
But you obviously are a true believer, just with a different cause.

and he was pragmatic, obama is not.Clinton did not aspire to be a dictator either, obama would love to have absolute power, it is in his nature.
You missed the point, which was that your people said exactly the same thing when Clinton was in office. Now you say Clinton was different, but that's not what the Righties said back then.

And you still don't get it.

u crank

02-20-13, 07:59 PM

Sure, couple of thousand now, but what happens when it grows? Why do you think they want to take guns away? Several thousand armed against mostly unarmed or inadequately armed populace would work.Really, you don't see the big picture.

And just who will take these guns away? Be realistic.

And oh yea, I see the big picture and it's kinda funny.

Sailor Steve

02-20-13, 07:59 PM

...
I was wrong. I admit it. They weren't Eagle Scouts, they were Explorers. That's what I get for listening to someone else.

You're
A.
B.
C.
D. All of the above?

Cybermat47

02-20-13, 08:01 PM

blah Evil Liberals blah blah blah Adolf Obama blah blah blah blah

Thanks, now my Nazi UFO theories are sensical to everyone else! :woot:

Bubblehead1980

02-20-13, 08:06 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/05/13/us/0000EXPLORERS_index.html

Your "official DHS photo" of the newly trained Obama Army is a 2009 picture captioned:
It's also credited "Photo: Todd Krainin for The New York Times"
I know you might have a bit of trouble with the language, but seriously? Confusing "DHS" with "New York Times" or "Secret Private FEMA Army" with "Imperial County, Calif., sheriff's office"? You might want to check to see if your education is worth the money being spent on it. I paid $20 for my doctorate. You might want to check that route.

You're
A. Being dishonest,
B. Listening to people and taking what they say without checking up on actual facts, or
C. Dumber than
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/picture.php?albumid=442&pictureid=6377

Interesting....okay apparently the photo was not part of it then, I was fooled, saw it attached to a story about DHS. Does not change the fact they they did graduated a class from the FEMA Corps and probably more in training now and they will be a de facto civillian army.

Armistead

02-20-13, 08:10 PM

Interesting....okay apparently the photo was not part of it then, I was fooled, saw it attached to a story about DHS. Does not change the fact they they did graduated a class from the FEMA Corps and probably more in training now and they will be a de facto civillian army.

Are you really concerned with some boys training with airsoft guns, knowing that they're millions of armed vets more than willing to fight tyranny?

razark

02-20-13, 08:12 PM

I was fooled
Admitting you have a problem is the first step. You've started on your journey of recovery.

Does not change the fact they they did graduated a class from the FEMA Corps and probably more in training now and they will be a de facto civillian army.
... and the journey of a thousand steps takes a detour.

Once again, you will need to provide a source for your assertions. Simply parroting what others tell you is not acceptable. Here's a hint: it starts with "c", and ends with "heck your facts before you post bullcrap online."

Sailor Steve

02-20-13, 08:23 PM

Interesting....okay apparently the photo was not part of it then, I was fooled, saw it attached to a story about DHS.
They out-and-out lied, and you swallowed it whole-hog.

Does not change the fact they they did graduated a class from the FEMA Corps and probably more in training now and they will be a de facto civillian army.
"Fact. A thing done; an action performed or an incident transpiring; an event or circumstance; an actual occurrence; an actual happening in time space or an event mental or physical; that which has taken place."
-Black's Dictionary of Law, Fifth Edition, 1979

You claim to be a law student, and you have said repeatedly that your professors and your fellows are idiots. You should know the difference between a fact and a claim. If this is a fact then there is actual evidence for this fact, and if you claim that it is a fact then you should be able to show this evidence, and prove that it is a fact. It may or may not be true, but without that evidence then it is not a fact, and in truth may be nothing more than a fantasy propogated by people who have to hate "the other side" for no better reason than that they are "the other side", and believed by, as you put it, "sheeple" such as yourself.

Tribesman

02-20-13, 08:24 PM

Are you really concerned with some boys training with airsoft guns, knowing that they're millions of armed vets more than willing to fight tyranny?
But the program also involves real guns too.
To make sure you get your explorer merit badge please contact...
Important Reminder
Law Enforcement Explorer Qualification certificates, patches, and uniform bars are only available to enrolled Posts. To enroll a Post, complete the Law Enforcement Explorer application and mail it to:
NRA Headquarters,
Attn: Marksmanship Qualification Coordinator
11250 Waples Mill Road
Fairfax, VA 22030

There you have it the NRA is secretly training Obamas hidden army of Nazi dentists:rotfl2:

mookiemookie

02-20-13, 08:26 PM

Interesting....okay apparently the photo was not part of it then, I was fooled, saw it attached to a story about DHS.

Ok, you're doing good. Admitting you're wrong when you're wrong is a good first step.

Does not change the fact they they did graduated a class from the FEMA Corps and probably more in training now and they will be a de facto civillian army.

Doh! :damn: You were so close. But then you went off the rails here. Doesn't change the fact? I'd say it abso-friggin-lutely changes the fact. The only fact here is that you still accept "facts" from a source that was just proven to use fake photos to illustrate its ravings. It is at that point that it loses all credibility.

AVGWarhawk

02-20-13, 08:40 PM

They are graduates of the FEMA Corps or whatever they are calling it, they were recieving weapons and tactics training yet have no LE or military function? hmm makes no sense other than while they may not carry guns al the time, they are building them, and training them, they have the training and can easily be armed.There is no legitimate purpose for this, other than to have private civillian army loyal to the executive, basically what he called for back in 2008 and it was created under the "health care" law in 2010, they prob have class number 4 or 5 in training by now.Why no one sees the similiarities between the SA and SS of Germany in the 30's is beyond me.Perhaps you do and just want to give Barry the benefit of the doubt.Do I think he is plotting some mass genoicide? No, but I believe he is trying to create a tight power structure to keep himself in power in the even of disasters, attempts to remove him etc.Like his former chief of staff and now mayor of murderland(chicago) said, never let a crisis go to waste.

Bubble.....I said it before. I work with cash strapped FEMA everyday. There is little time and money to fund the boys of war. Let me tell you how FEMA operates. Just last month the FINAL invoice for Katrina was paid. Slow and slower. When there are no disasters to contend with FEMA conduct disaster exercises. I get a call and given a scenerio of a disaster. I'm tasked to find the transportation they require for relief supplies. FEMA does not spend their time training kids to scream, "Get to the choppa!" While shooting airsoft rifles. It just is not their gig. There are no FEMA death camps. There are FEMA trailer parks which could be considered a death camp but those living their for free kind of like it. Not much of a death camp.

Cybermat47

02-20-13, 09:08 PM

Omigod Bubblehead you were right Obama is taking over America I found footage of his wicked FEMA army destroying a village in Kentucky look at this video it contains extreme violence http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pM06Y4LPCt8 OMIGOD YOU CAN SEE FEMA PLANES BOMBING THIS VILLAGE !!!!!!!! AND OBAMA's DEVIL CHILDREN WERE EXECUTING CHILDREN OMIGOD OMIGOD OMIGOD!!!!

Tribesman

02-20-13, 09:26 PM

I am just wondering, is the topic title a typo?
Would ....
Stopped to buy goat
...make more sense?

razark

02-20-13, 09:33 PM

I am just wondering, is the topic title a typo?
Would ....
Stopped to buy goat
...make more sense?
Nah. It's not yubba.

Armistead

02-20-13, 09:51 PM

Bubble.....I said it before. I work with cash strapped FEMA everyday. There is little time and money to fund the boys of war. Let me tell you how FEMA operates. Just last month the FINAL invoice for Katrina was paid. Slow and slower. When there are no disasters to contend with FEMA conduct disaster exercises. I get a call and given a scenerio of a disaster. I'm tasked to find the transportation they require for relief supplies. FEMA does not spend their time training kids to scream, "Get to the choppa!" While shooting airsoft rifles. It just is not their gig. There are no FEMA death camps. There are FEMA trailer parks which could be considered a death camp but those living their for free kind of like it. Not much of a death camp.

The man I worked for for years now works with FEMA or government, but on a part time basis. Had to take a class for several weeks. Like you, he gets calls for disasters, basically looks at property damage, does reports.
He did Katrina and often dead bodies were found drowned in the home. He has told me FEMA is so mismanaged it's shameful.

Oberon

02-20-13, 10:33 PM

Can't you see?! Has the liberal media got to you too?!
The FEMA mismanagement is all part of a ploy, they're actually all very competent, they're just pretending not to be to lull people into a false sense of security, so when Obama executes Order 66 they will spring into action and begin rounding up people, taking away their guns and herding them into the FEMA death camps!
It's so obvious! How can people not see it?! :nope:

Tribesman

02-21-13, 03:08 AM

[QOTE]Can't you see?! Has the liberal media got to you too?!
The FEMA mismanagement is all part of a ploy, they're actually all very competent, they're just pretending not to be to lull people into a false sense of security, so when Obama executes Order 66 they will spring into action and begin rounding up people, taking away their guns and herding them into the FEMA death camps!
It's so obvious! How can people not see it?! :nope: [/QUOTE]
They can't see it because the sneaky new world order have hidden a number from order 66 to lull people into a false sense of security
The real number of the order is.....
hexakosioi deka hex :03:

Betonov

02-21-13, 03:17 AM

Isn't an incompetent goverment agency that deals with disaster relieve giving quite the opposite than a sense of security (false or otherwise)

HunterICX

02-21-13, 04:50 AM

When is Obama going to declare himself supreme dictator and send the FEMA youth out to take our guns?

HEY!

That's our JOB!
Only the UN may take yer Gunzzzz :stare:

HunterICX

Tribesman

02-21-13, 05:56 AM

Since the explorers program is part of the boy scouts movement and the boy scouts have a motto of "be prepared", does this mean Obamas secret army of Nazi dentists are really Preppers?

Jimbuna

02-21-13, 06:34 AM

HEY!

That's our JOB!
Only the UN may take yer Gunzzzz :stare:

HunterICX

Maybe Brussels as well.

Bilge_Rat

02-21-13, 09:21 AM

When is Obama going to declare himself supreme dictator and send the FEMA youth out to take our guns?

I welcome our new overlord...

http://imageshack.us/a/img232/7008/obama0001.jpg

AVGWarhawk

02-21-13, 09:22 AM

FEMA also stockpiles plastic coffins in many areas. These are for the govt. takeover, when they turn America into a commie state and us gun owners fight back......It's gonna be a civil war.....

I was thinking about this on my way to work this morning. Someone has to pay for all the coffins. Anyway, FEMA does have coffins. The news agency report on storms and damage but touch very little on the deaths. Many bodies are not claimed. Katrina yielded 4 reefer loads of unclaimed victims. So yes, coffins are part of effort in so much as clean up.

Armistead

02-21-13, 09:51 AM

I was thinking about this on my way to work this morning. Someone has to pay for all the coffins. Anyway, FEMA does have coffins. The news agency report on storms and damage but touch very little on the deaths. Many bodies are not claimed. Katrina yielded 4 reefer loads of unclaimed victims. So yes, coffins are part of effort in so much as clean up.

But you got to love all the nuts that think these coffins are for the upcoming govt. takeover, not disasters. FEMA does have several areas where they stockpile plastic coffins, love all the youtubes of people going nuts when they find one. One nut wanted to know why they had rented a large parcel of land in Atlanta for the coffins, stacking 1000's of them. Feared something in Atlanta was getting ready to happen. Guess it never crossed his mind it's storage point and they ship them all over.

Dammit_Carl!

02-21-13, 10:53 AM

Driving to a site yesterday with a co-worker (who is vehemently anti-Obama, spouts the typical right wing talk show catch phrases and so on) when he brings up the "well, why has the government needed to buy all this ammunition as of late," point.

I assume what he said was the result of something that is floating out there; I am frankly unaware of the situation myself.

My reply: "You do know that there has been a conflict going on for more than a decade now; I'd wager that our ammo stockpile has been pretty well shot up and they are simply "topping off," the ammo tank, per se."

Co-worker: :hmmm: "Hmmm...I didn't think of that."

The insistence of looking for boogy (sp?) men in any and everything that the current administration is doing is, frankly, tiring at this point. People would be better served if they would apply their time, energy, and money to more positive venues, but the chances of that happening are slim to none I fear.

AVGWarhawk

02-21-13, 11:24 AM

But you got to love all the nuts that think these coffins are for the upcoming govt. takeover, not disasters. FEMA does have several areas where they stockpile plastic coffins, love all the youtubes of people going nuts when they find one. One nut wanted to know why they had rented a large parcel of land in Atlanta for the coffins, stacking 1000's of them. Feared something in Atlanta was getting ready to happen. Guess it never crossed his mind it's storage point and they ship them all over.

Atlanta is a major DC for FEMA. This is what is scaring FEMA at the moment and exercises have been performed. Look up New Madrid, MO. Major earthquake

1812, January 23, 15:15 UTC, New Madrid, Missouri
9:15 am local time,
Magnitude ~7.5

The second principal shock of the 1811-1812 sequence. It is difficult to assign intensities to the principal shocks that occurred after 1811 because many of the published accounts describe the cumulative effects of all the earthquakes and because the Ohio River was iced over, so there was little river traffic and fewer human observers. Using the December 16 earthquake as a standard, however, there is a general consensus that this earthquake was the smallest of the three principals. The meizoseismal area was characterized by general ground warping, ejections, fissuring, severe landslides, and caving of stream banks.

At that time not much of a population. Today, thousands live in the area. Word is New Madrid has earthquakes about every 200 years. Check the date of today. Anyway, if a earthquake as witnessed in 1812 happened today....the death toll would be astronomical. Now, this puts in perspective why stock pile good at major DC for relief efforts.

Tribesman

02-21-13, 11:34 AM

I assume what he said was the result of something that is floating out there; I am frankly unaware of the situation myself.

Carl.
Yep thats another conspiracy theory that has been doing the rounds for a while.
It has cropped up here quite often.
The "truth" is apparently.....

Obamas secret army is clandestinely buying ammunition.
Vigilant citizens uncovered this hidden nefarious plot by daringly uncovering secret government documents in the sneaky form of public adverts which were published inviting tenders from companies wishing to bid for the contracts.
You can see how sneaky the plot was, only a really underhand plotter would make public their secret requests and detail all the requirements and delivery information as well as which different government agencies were ordering which stuff.

AVGWarhawk

02-21-13, 11:54 AM

geetrue

02-21-13, 11:54 AM

I'm starting to think that this is a very convincing practical joke. No one can possibly be this stereotypical.

Okay, where's the hidden camera?

I thought it was real ... I have prayed about this poor soul and his paticular views that have led to his ridcule.

Wisdom says to be quick to listen and slow to speak

I have not always practiced this advice.
I also have jumped to conclusions, but I have also repented
which means changed my mind.

I have seen grown men poke fun at other grown men in the service on submarines, but it was always meant to help them be better men, help them grow up, help them see and learn from their mistakes.

bubblehead do you read all of these posts that your outlandish charges have provoked?

Can you see that by making fun of your unreasonable hatred of the president by thinking he has his own private army in fema is a good thing?

What I mean is that by making fun of you it is a good thing for you to repent.

Can you change your mind from all of this stirring up ... ?

Can you admit that you are wrong and yield to the truth that you are just plain simply prejudiced against the president.

There is a time for everything ... this is a good time to change.

I am sorrry for one that I made fun of you.

Talk to us bubblehead ...

Is there hope for you?

Takeda Shingen

02-21-13, 12:08 PM

I thought it was real ... I have prayed about this poor soul and his paticular views that have led to his ridcule.

Titling your thread with the intent to gloat and referring to people a deluded sheep precludes any sympathy from me. I choose to act as a mirror to others. Treat me, the reader, with respect and I will treat you with respect. Regard me scornfully and you earn my scorn. I think that's more than fair.

August

02-21-13, 12:15 PM

AVGWarhawk

02-21-13, 12:20 PM

I get a kick out of the idea that FEMA is stockpiling coffins in preparation for a government takeover. Like a government bent on mass murdering it's citizens would bother putting their bodies in coffins afterwards.

These are not really coffins. Plastic containers. No better than Tupperware. Used in situations like Katrina. Anywhere there are victims from a disaster. Have to remember, a person is killed in the disaster. The surviving family members are not calling the local funeral home. 10 to 1 that business is ruined as well. The family is picking up the pieces themselves. What to do with your dead family member in the meantime? It my not be the most gracious of containers for the dead but it will have to do until proper arrangements can be made.

August

02-21-13, 12:32 PM

These are not really coffins. Plastic containers. No better than Tupperware. Used in situations like Katrina. Anywhere there are victims from a disaster. Have to remember, a person is killed in the disaster. The surviving family members are not calling the local funeral home. 10 to 1 that business is ruined as well. The family is picking up the pieces themselves. What to do with your dead family member in the meantime? It my not be the most gracious of containers for the dead but it will have to do until proper arrangements can be made.

I know what they're used for AVG.

My point was that those who think these "tupperware containers" (I like that :)) are a sign of an impending government takeover don't seem to realize that if it were true the government would hardly go out of their way to preserve the evidence of their crimes.

Like the nazis and commies before them they'd do whatever they could to make those bodies disappear.

AVGWarhawk

02-21-13, 12:39 PM

Yes, I copy. :up:

I'm just astonished people dream up this huge conspiracy. Information flows like diarrhea in today's world. It would take some doing to keep 100's of people quiet that are involved in such a conspiracy.

After Katrina, the reefers of dead were to be taken into NO at night under police escort. Last stop at the crematory. This was not made public. Sure enough, word got out. This was just a 4 trucks and a slow roll into NO out of AL! People really think something of this magnitude could be covered up?

Tribesman

02-21-13, 12:42 PM

What about them fake moon landings eh?
Government conspiracy to be sure.

AVGWarhawk

02-21-13, 12:44 PM

What about them fake moon landings eh?
Government conspiracy to be sure.

Well...there is some compelling evidence. However, I have no doubt astronauts landed on the moon.

Onkel Neal

02-21-13, 01:02 PM

Tribesman

02-21-13, 01:11 PM

Well...there is some compelling evidence.
But where is the cheese?

However, I have no doubt astronauts landed on the moon.
If they did then they would have brought back some cheese.

Dammit_Carl!

02-21-13, 01:19 PM

Well, to be fair, left wingers were doing the exact same thing during Bush.

No doubt about that.

It just seems that either this sort of stuff, i.e. conspiracy hue and cry / the end is upon us / our country is doomed / etc., is happening more often and is heard more loudly than in previous years (thanks to technology perhaps) or I'm just more aware of this sort of thing nowadays.

I don't know.

AVGWarhawk

02-21-13, 01:26 PM

But where is the cheese?

If they did then they would have brought back some cheese.

You have been watching Wallace and Gromit. :O:

http://www.toonhound.com/wererab-0930.jpg

Oberon

02-21-13, 01:42 PM

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6854260480/h95D0747C/

Hottentot

02-21-13, 01:48 PM

^^
I don't know where you always find those pictures, Oberon, but you are really turning posting them into an art. :har:

Tchocky

02-21-13, 02:16 PM

This thread is kind of hilarious.

Takeda Shingen

02-21-13, 02:20 PM

Just crazy what people drum up:

http://americanholocaustcoming.blogspot.com/2012/05/fema-coffins-being-shipped-north.html

http://issuesoncall.blogspot.com/2012/09/fema-termination-lists-coffins-already.html

Those blogs have things almost correct. Yes, Obama does plan to become America's own Eternal Leader. However, before he can do so, he must become eternal himself, which would require him to bathe in the blood of virgins. In fact, a lot of blood is needed, which is why we see the plasic coffins.

And why are they headed north? Because Obama has found the largest congregation of virgins in America.

http://www.newyorkcomiccon.com/

All will be revealed this fall.

Tchocky

02-21-13, 02:28 PM

I think we can close the nominations for Best of Subsim 2013 (http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showpost.php?p=2013855&postcount=100)

AVGWarhawk

02-21-13, 02:51 PM

mookiemookie

02-21-13, 03:05 PM

Those blogs have things almost correct. Yes, Obama does plan to become America's own Eternal Leader. However, before he can do so, he must become eternal himself, which would require him to bathe in the blood of virgins. In fact, a lot of blood is needed, which is why we see the plasic coffins.

And why are they headed north? Because Obama has found the largest congregation of virgins in America.

http://www.newyorkcomiccon.com/

All will be revealed this fall.

http://o.onionstatic.com/images/17/17949/original/700.jpg?4835

“A glorious new age of sinister, unconstrained liberalism is dawning! Oh, dear Satan, I can feel it coursing through my veins at this very moment!” shrieked Obama, ripping off his shirt to reveal an ornate tattoo of a pentagram, with a different homosexual act positioned at each of the star’s five points. “Agnosticism, contempt for human life, and radical sexual experimentation shall rule the day! Any good, virtuous, family-values-oriented Christian Americans who seek to topple our magnificent liberal kingdom of eternal darkness will be powerless to stop us! We will crush them!”

I love the Onion.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/obama-help-us-destroy-jesus-and-start-a-new-age-of,29478/

AVGWarhawk

02-21-13, 03:10 PM

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmfhh7YFId1qgbgm6o1_400.jpg

Jimbuna

02-21-13, 03:42 PM

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6854260480/h95D0747C/

LOL :)

Bubblehead1980

02-21-13, 04:45 PM

Stealhead

02-21-13, 04:49 PM

Dowly

02-21-13, 04:52 PM

Sure, factcheck.org had a reasonable explanation except the source is suspect as it is the Annenberg Foundation , which has close ties to obama.

Ever bothered to scroll down to the section that says "Sources"?

Cybermat47

02-21-13, 04:53 PM

Man, this is hilarious! :haha:

Tchocky

02-21-13, 04:55 PM

Stealhead

02-21-13, 05:02 PM

Man, this is hilarious! :haha:
I don't know if it is hilarious or sad but I like do enjoy laughing so I am going with hilarious.
I bet Bubbles has not yet noticed Dowly's bilking sig when he does he will be convinced that she is
a member of the Underground Obama Zombie Army.

and now.....
http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q527/datsun260zyojimbo/380sw452770_zps00093ea4.gif

Cybermat47

02-21-13, 05:05 PM

I don't know if it is hilarious or sad but I like do enjoy laughing so I am going with hilarious.

and now.....
http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q527/datsun260zyojimbo/380sw452770_zps00093ea4.gif

Ha! But this video is closer to what's going on, it's completely non-sensical, and has Barack Obama in it:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pM06Y4LPCt8

Just don't watch it near kids...

clive bradbury

02-21-13, 05:08 PM

Gentlemen, you are trying your best here, but I think you are wasting your time. There is an old sceptic's saying:

'You can't reason someone out of a position they did not reason themselves into'...

Dammit_Carl!

02-21-13, 05:09 PM

wow

Bet Bubblehead is on the Tea Party Facebook-esque place too; they don't cotton to too much honest-back-and-forth between opposing viewpoints either.

Shine on, man. Shine on.

Stealhead

02-21-13, 05:11 PM

Ha! But this video is closer to what's going on, it's completely non-sensical, and has Barack Obama in it:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pM06Y4LPCt8

Just don't watch it near kids...

I just see a list of videos that I have to Download.The first one is "Mike Rosen visits Penis Museum".

NeonSamurai

02-21-13, 05:11 PM

Truth is no one actually knows what will happen but there is strong, undeniable evidence that something dark is occurring, just open your eyes and use your brain.Like I said, will never get why people give such a shady, slimely person such as BHO the benefit of the doubt.

The irony as I see it, is that everyone here (and many posting here are far from being "liberal/mentally challenged" as you put it), is arguing that it is you that desperately needs to open your eyes and start thinking for yourself, rather than re-pasting what almost everyone considers to be total lunacy.

Every time you post one of these threads and offer us your "evidence" it gets shot to shreds. Because none of what you have presented is strong or undeniable evidence far from it.

Honestly I have seen paranoid schizophrenics on the mental health unit I work at spouting this kind of stuff, and they are on the psych unit because they are psychotic, they have no grasp of reality.

For your own sake, do some investigating of this stuff yourself, some honest investigation, and stop just mindlessly parroting nonsense.

Stealhead

02-21-13, 05:20 PM

mookiemookie

02-21-13, 05:28 PM

This is what happens to the man that is not prepared when the Underground Obama Zombie Army comes into town....
http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q527/datsun260zyojimbo/1299505824_jackass-3d-steve-oport-a-potty-slingshot_zps21276d2b.gif

Taking crap to a whole new level....

Tribesman

02-21-13, 05:33 PM

Tribesman

02-21-13, 05:37 PM

........that is a FACT.........
Is that a Carlsberg moment?
Probably the best example of CAPSLOCK in the world.:D

Cybermat47

02-21-13, 05:54 PM

I just see a list of videos that I have to Download.The first one is "Mike Rosen visits Penis Museum".

This link might be better.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pM06Y4LPCt8

If not, just look up the video name on YouTube.

Viewer discretion is advised...

darius359au

02-21-13, 06:00 PM

Honestly I have seen paranoid schizophrenics on the mental health unit I work at spouting this kind of stuff, and they are on the psych unit because they are psychotic, they have no grasp of reality.

Ahh but have you considered that their in there Because they found the truth and FEMA has locked them away in mental institutions to hide the truth? - then again it probably would be easier to just shoot them in a FEMA death camp and incinerate the body!(You didn't think high temperature incinerators were just for disposal of toxic chemicals did you? they can be rigged with conveyors to efficiently dispose of the millions of bodies in plastic coffins after Darth Obama takes over the world!).....

razark

02-21-13, 06:52 PM

...that is a FACT.
You're right, it is a FACT. FACTs are things that are true because you scream them loud and repeatedly. What it is not is a fact. Facts have evidence to support them.

The "sudden" (actually planned the entire first term, just would not touch gun issues while facing reelection) against the second amendment.
That's a damn stupid way to operate. Why not carry out his evil plans in the first term, instead of waiting for a second term that he couldn't be sure of winning? (That's also not a complete sentence.)

...there is strong, undeniable evidence that something dark is occurring...
Evidence that you have not yet provided. Have you found the "Secret Private Army" clause yet?

breadcatcher101

02-21-13, 07:04 PM

Well this is interesting:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/dhs-supplier-provides-shooting-targets-of-american-gun-owners.html

"no more hesitation'

Catchy name.

razark

02-21-13, 07:26 PM

Huh. It seems that Grumman, the same company that supplied NASA with the Lunar Module, also built warplanes for the Navy.

Obviously, NASA's Apollo missions were actually testing Navy fighters for the coming alien invasion.

AVGWarhawk

02-21-13, 07:41 PM

I was wrong to not check out the photo, usually a bit more thorough than that.Also, I will admit that while not an emotional, the actions of obama do get me fired up, as it should EVERYONE.I am busy, thus why I don't spend as much time arguing with you people on here these days.Also, it is like arguing with a liberal/mentally challenged person, just can't win even when you are winning.The photo was incorrect I will admit that.However, the evidence is clear that obama is attempting to build a "civilian national security force" he mentioned in a 2008 speech.This is being built via DHS , that is a FACT.They do not need the vehicles, weapons, ammo etc. Sure, factcheck.org had a reasonable explanation except the source is suspect as it is the Annenberg Foundation , which has close ties to obama.

I would bet few if any of my detractors have read obama's book, researched his shady life etc I have said I don't think he is planning a Hitler style genocide or anything but he is definitely preparing to grab power that is not his should the right crisis arrive.There are just too many suspect things happening that the willfully ignorant ignore or write off as unrelated but make plenty of sense if you understand this piece of trash who has managed become president twice now.The "sudden" (actually planned the entire first term, just would not touch gun issues while facing reelection) against the second amendment.The NDAA providing for indefinite detention, upping drone strikes even on us citizens,maintaining the president has power to kill us citizens without trial. DHS buying millions of rounds of ammo.Now, it's not to replenish stocks, they have plenty, its A to have enough in the even something happens and to create a shortage of ammo along with causing prices to rise.

Truth is no one actually knows what will happen but there is strong, undeniable evidence that something dark is occurring, just open your eyes and use your brain.Like I said, will never get why people give such a shady, slimely person such as BHO the benefit of the doubt.

Bubble...this is why there is term limits man! In 3 3/4 years it will not matter! 535 people on Capitol Hill can not agree on crap. Do you think they are agreeing on some build up of forces and starting operation Soylent Green? Get a grip. Obama is working on his legacy. That would be Healthcare and not much more.

Sleep well. :up:

breadcatcher101

02-21-13, 08:02 PM

NeonSamurai

02-21-13, 09:48 PM

Well this is interesting:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/dhs-supplier-provides-shooting-targets-of-american-gun-owners.html

"no more hesitation'

Catchy name.

Ya, law enforcement agencies probably use targets like that for training... why? Because those people are potential threats too. Or do you think that just because a woman is white and pregnant, she won't try to kill you?

Hadn't noticed until now, but there are no blacks in the "no more hesitation" targets.

An oversight I am sure. Please allow me to provide some:

http://chasthuglife.blogspot.com/2013/01/a-question-for-our-president.html

Ya... not like law enforcement hesitate much historically in shooting people of color. I am sure there is a market for don't hesitate targets like that. Oh and I can post countless pictures of dumb white folks posing with guns too. Not like any 'race' has the market cornered for stupidity. All of this stuff is also further examples of US gun culture in action.

Onkel Neal

02-21-13, 10:08 PM

I was wrong to not check out the photo, usually a bit more thorough than that.Also, I will admit that while not an emotional, the actions of obama do get me fired up, as it should EVERYONE.I am busy, thus why I don't spend as much time arguing with you people on here these days.Also, it is like arguing with a liberal/mentally challenged person, just can't win even when you are winning.The photo was incorrect I will admit that.However, the evidence is clear that obama is attempting to build a "civilian national security force" he mentioned in a 2008 speech.This is being built via DHS , that is a FACT.They do not need the vehicles, weapons, ammo etc. Sure, factcheck.org had a reasonable explanation except the source is suspect as it is the Annenberg Foundation , which has close ties to obama.

I would bet few if any of my detractors have read obama's book, researched his shady life etc I have said I don't think he is planning a Hitler style genocide or anything but he is definitely preparing to grab power that is not his should the right crisis arrive.There are just too many suspect things happening that the willfully ignorant ignore or write off as unrelated but make plenty of sense if you understand this piece of trash who has managed become president twice now.The "sudden" (actually planned the entire first term, just would not touch gun issues while facing reelection) against the second amendment.The NDAA providing for indefinite detention, upping drone strikes even on us citizens,maintaining the president has power to kill us citizens without trial. DHS buying millions of rounds of ammo.Now, it's not to replenish stocks, they have plenty, its A to have enough in the even something happens and to create a shortage of ammo along with causing prices to rise.

Truth is no one actually knows what will happen but there is strong, undeniable evidence that something dark is occurring, just open your eyes and use your brain.Like I said, will never get why people give such a shady, slimely person such as BHO the benefit of the doubt.

I usually do not get involved in threads like this, I have pretty good self-control. But I will make an exception in this case.

Bubblehead, stop and think for a minute. You are aware that there are some people who see Hitler around every corner, who think the government is about to get them and transform the US into a police state. But come on, man, look at the history of this country. It's never happened. Even during and after the Civil War, Lincoln and the North were pretty darn decent in how they handle the aftermath. We've been through Red Scares, rigged elections, presidents who pushed the boundaries of the law, and wars and civil unrest. But in the end, the country and its leaders always follow the script. No president has ever tried to cement his hold on the office illegally. This isn't Russia. Obama is not going to "seize power", no more than Bush, or Reagan, or any of the Republican presidents did, despite the idiotic howlings of the Left at that time. You should really stop thinking in that vein--you don't want to be part of the idiotic howlings of the Right. Obama and the left may try to make laws and make changes to the country, but that's how representational democracy works. They were elected, they get to call the shots. Relax, man.

mookiemookie

02-21-13, 10:10 PM

Hadn't noticed until now, but there are no blacks in the "no more hesitation" targets.

An oversight I am sure. Please allow me to provide some:

http://chasthuglife.blogspot.com/2013/01/a-question-for-our-president.html

Haha...I was watching Law and Order SVU last night and the opening scene had one of the detectives in the training exercise break into an apartment to break up a domestic dispute and she went after the guy, and the woman says "Detective?" and the cop turns around only to get double tapped.

It goes to show you can never make assumptions!

Madox58

02-21-13, 10:21 PM

Well. I use to go read those Conspiracy sites when I was bored and needed a good laugh.
Now I don't have to go to those sites anymore.
I can stay right here at SubSim in this thread!
:har:

Oh, Camp Perry, Ohio is NOT a FEMA detention camp by the way.
(Saw that listed at a Loony tunes site)
I was up there just a week ago. It's a freaking Convention center!
But I suppose that just it's cover?
:haha:

August

02-21-13, 10:33 PM

Madox58

02-21-13, 10:36 PM

They still do DCM shooting there?
Don't know the answer to that.
I only went up to do a small repair job on the floor of the crematorium......
I mean one of the Men's room.
:haha:

August

02-21-13, 10:53 PM

Don't know the answer to that.
I only went up to do a small repair job on the floor of the crematorium......
I mean one of the Men's room.
:haha:

There are no small jobs :salute:

Hottentot

02-22-13, 01:39 AM

THE POWER OF CAPSLOCK HAS BEEN INVOKED! TREMBLE, UNBELIEVERS!

Cybermat47

02-22-13, 02:15 AM

THE POWER OF CAPSLOCK HAS BEEN INVOKED! TREMBLE, UNBELIEVERS!

CAPSLOCK! CAPSLOCK! CAPSLOCK! CAPSLOCK!

:salute::salute::salute::salute::salute::salute::s alute::salute::salute::salute:

Tribesman

02-22-13, 03:26 AM

Hadn't noticed until now, but there are no blacks in the "no more hesitation" targets.

Perhaps you had better check the range they sell instead of looking at the couple that loon Jones put on his crazy conspiracy site.:hmmm:

HunterICX

02-22-13, 04:41 AM

GODS BE PRAISED, THE CAPSLOCKERS HAVE ARRIVED!
NOW MARCH ON TO ULTIMATE VICTORY!

HUNTERICX

Hottentot

02-22-13, 04:52 AM

YES! WHILE THAT MUPPET OBAMA IS STEALING THE ATTENTION OF THE WEAK MINDED WITH HIS LOUD CHARADES, WE CAN BE COVERTLY FULFILLING OUR OWN MASTERPLAN! LO, FOR WHEN THE ULTIMATE VICTORY COMES, THERE SHALL BE NO LETTER IN YOUR KEYBOARD OTHER THAN C, A, P, S, L, O, ANOTHER C AND K. IN THAT ORDER. TYPING IN ANY OTHER OTHER SHALL BE PUNISHABLE BY DEPRIVING YOU OF MATCHING SOCKS!

EVERYTHING IS GOING AS PLANNED. SOON. VERY SOON...

WHY AM I SHOUTING THIS OUT LOUD?!

HunterICX

02-22-13, 05:05 AM

WHY AM I SHOUTING THIS OUT LOUD?!

BECAUSE YOU ARE A TRUE SERVANT OF THE CAPSLOCK OVERLORDS!
*BOWS* LEAD US!

HUNTERICX

Penguin

02-22-13, 06:21 AM

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/562/obamashh1.jpg
"Shhhhhhh!"
"Be quiet so i can fulfill my Obamacare-masterplan and plant mandadory RFID chips into all your hands."
(insert evil nazicommiemuslim laughter) :haha:

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/2742/chipmv.jpg
^the proof of the troof

Dammit_Carl!

02-22-13, 07:24 AM

OH SNAP!

:o

AVGWarhawk

02-22-13, 08:03 AM

> A cowboy named Bud was overseeing his herd in a remote mountainous
> pasture in Montana when suddenly a brand-new BMW advanced toward him
> out of a cloud of dust.
>
> The driver, a young man in a Brioni® suit, Gucci® shoes, Ray Ban®
> sunglasses and YSL® tie, leaned out the window and asked the cowboy,
> "If I tell you exactly how many cows and calves you have in your herd,
> will you give me a calf?"
>
> Bud looks at the man, who obviously is a yuppie, then looks at his
> peacefully grazing herd and calmly answers, "Sure, why not?"
>
> The yuppie parks his car, whips out his Dell® notebook computer,
> connects it to his Cingular RAZR V3® cell phone, and surfs to a NASA
> page on the Internet, where he calls up a GPS satellite to get an exact
> fix on his location which he then feeds to another NASA satellite that
> scans the area in an ultra-high-resolution photo.
>
> The young man then opens the digital photo in Adobe Photoshop® and
> exports it to an image processing facility in Hamburg, Germany ...
>
> Within seconds, he receives an email on his Palm Pilot® that the image
> has been processed and the data stored. He then accesses an MS-SQL®
> database through an ODBC connected Excel® spreadsheet with email on his
> Blackberry® and, after a few minutes, receives a response.
>
> Finally, he prints out a full-color, 150-page report on his hi-tech,
> miniaturized HP LaserJet® printer, turns to the cowboy and says, "You
> have exactly 1,586 cows and calves."
>
> "That's right. Well, I guess you can take one of my calves," says Bud.
>
> He watches the young man select one of the animals and looks on with
> amusement as the young man stuffs it into the trunk of his car.
>
> Then Bud says to the young man, "Hey, if I can tell you exactly what
> your business is, will you give me back my calf?"
>
> The young man thinks about it for a second and then says, "Okay, why
> not?"
>
> "You're a Congressman for the U.S. Government", says Bud.
>
> "Wow! That's correct," says the yuppie, "but how did you guess that?"
>
> "No guessing required." answered the cowboy. "You showed up here even
> though nobody called you; you want to get paid for an answer I already
> knew, to a question I never asked.
>
> You used millions of dollars’ worth of equipment trying to show me how
> much smarter than me you are; and you don't know a thing about how
> working people make a living - or about cows, for that matter. This is
> a herd of sheep.
>
> Now give me back my dog.
>
> AND THAT FOLKS IS WHAT THE PROBLEM IS ALL ABOUT.

Jimbuna

02-22-13, 08:18 AM

^ :har:

:yeah:

Penguin

02-22-13, 08:45 AM

:rotfl2:
Glad I din't have a drink in my mouth when I read this.

August

02-22-13, 10:08 AM

It's funny because it's true! :yep:

geetrue

02-22-13, 12:17 PM

"Shhhhhhh!"
"Be quiet so i can fulfill my Obamacare-masterplan and plant mandadory RFID chips into all your hands."
(insert evil nazicommiemuslim laughter) :haha:

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/2742/chipmv.jpg
^the proof of the troof

I know you were just spoofing Penguin, but I had not heard of this RFID chip (just to get serious for a moment)
so I looked it up: http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/microchip.asp

snopes doesn't let you cut and paste, but I urge all of you to read this brief article on why the RFID chip was not included
in the obamacare health plan, but yet a lot of scary emails were circulated about it.

This is why we need our own snopes mod with a sticky to rebuke these ideas that can ruin a community.

Well certainly can't ruin ours, but could save us a lot of time.

Psalm 37: 8 "Do not fret it only cause harm"

Betonov

02-22-13, 12:29 PM

This is why we need our own snopes mod with a sticky to rebuke these ideas that can ruin a community.

Well certainly can't ruin ours, but could save us a lot of time.

Psalm 37: 8 "Do not fret it only cause harm"

Tribesman could PM me the responses and I'd put some ''diplomacy'' in them before posting them

NeonSamurai

02-22-13, 12:30 PM

Perhaps you had better check the range they sell instead of looking at the couple that loon Jones put on his crazy conspiracy site.:hmmm:

I like the zombie targets best, but it looks like they aren't selling those other kinds of targets any more.

Tribesman

02-22-13, 01:43 PM

I like the zombie targets best, but it looks like they aren't selling those other kinds of targets any more.
Which? the pregnant woman, the lanino, the chinese, the indian, the chicken george and shaft?
All there and many more besides

Oberon

02-22-13, 01:47 PM

the lanino

Well, after all the disruption it causes to the weather I can understand why people would want to shoot at it... :yep:

mookiemookie

02-22-13, 04:57 PM

Well, after all the disruption it causes to the weather I can understand why people would want to shoot at it... :yep:

:har::rotfl2:

Jimbuna

02-22-13, 06:39 PM

Well, after all the disruption it causes to the weather I can understand why people would want to shoot at it... :yep:

LOL :)

AVGWarhawk

02-22-13, 07:00 PM

Well, after all the disruption it causes to the weather I can understand why people would want to shoot at it... :yep:

:haha:

NeonSamurai

02-22-13, 10:35 PM

Which? the pregnant woman, the lanino, the chinese, the indian, the chicken george and shaft?
All there and many more besides

The "No More Hesitation” targets line was discontinued. There is a different line called "Split Second Targets" which features some of that stuff, but the images and design is different.

Bubblehead1980

02-27-13, 05:21 PM

I usually do not get involved in threads like this, I have pretty good self-control. But I will make an exception in this case.

Bubblehead, stop and think for a minute. You are aware that there are some people who see Hitler around every corner, who think the government is about to get them and transform the US into a police state. But come on, man, look at the history of this country. It's never happened. Even during and after the Civil War, Lincoln and the North were pretty darn decent in how they handle the aftermath. We've been through Red Scares, rigged elections, presidents who pushed the boundaries of the law, and wars and civil unrest. But in the end, the country and its leaders always follow the script. No president has ever tried to cement his hold on the office illegally. This isn't Russia. Obama is not going to "seize power", no more than Bush, or Reagan, or any of the Republican presidents did, despite the idiotic howlings of the Left at that time. You should really stop thinking in that vein--you don't want to be part of the idiotic howlings of the Right. Obama and the left may try to make laws and make changes to the country, but that's how representational democracy works. They were elected, they get to call the shots. Relax, man.

Neal I respect your statement but I believe that it is extremely naive to think it will always work out okay for us because it has in the past.Obama is different than any president, learn about the guy, analyze his actions, words etc, his associations, he is different and given his tendency to not respect the constitution and it's limits on his power, he is likely to exploit a situation and try to retain power, he is dangerous.This may not be Russia but this guy and the whack jobs in his admin and his loyal band of ignorant followers are just as bad.Maybe it will work out but it is not beneath him/them to try such shenanigans and we must be in vigilant, not complacent.Like I said, he is different, Bush or Reagan were not dangerous like obama, nor was clinton even, not in the way obama is.

Sure, elections have consequences but it does not mean they are allowed to push a destructive and unconstitutional agenda down our throats nor does it mean those of us who are not blind to who he really is are supposed to keep quiet.Half of the battle is spreading the word and waking people u, which is increasingly difficult to do since the media is basically a propaganda arm of the admin now.

Takeda Shingen

02-27-13, 05:26 PM

Pretty much sums it up right here......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XScLbJmO6s

Dowly

02-27-13, 05:29 PM

Think for yourself, really, truly hard, Bubblehead. That's all I can say to you.
You will quickly find all the holes in that which you are "preaching" about now.

:salute:

Bilge_Rat

02-27-13, 05:33 PM

...given his tendency to not respect the constitution and it's limits on his power....

I'll bite. Give me just one example of an action he has taken which no other President has and/or which is unconstitutional.

just one will do.

Bubblehead1980

02-27-13, 05:41 PM

Think for yourself, really, truly hard, Bubblehead. That's all I can say to you.
You will quickly find all the holes in that which you are "preaching" about now.

:salute:

I think for myself.Please tell me where the holes are? I doubt you have read obama's books, studied him as extensively as I have. Know thy enemy, well I do. I am rarely shocked by his behavior, even since day one because I knew plenty about him by the time he was elected in 2008, it is why I went from being open to voting for him to being vehemently opposed to his presidency.A great example is all during the first term, his propagandists on nbc, msnbc, abc, cbs, cnn all ridiculed those who warned about his extreme gun views as "he has not even mentioned gun control, he is not coming for you guns" , now that he has no reelection to worry about and the perfect tragedy to exploit for political gain, he is pushing for gun control, to hell with the constitution.Knowing how this guy is, I am not shocked.I was not shocked by his poor reaction to racial incidents because the man is racist!, Just read his book "Dreams from My Father" , look at his associations, etc, RACIST. I would say he is stupid or ignorant of things but he is not, he knows the constitution, he just hates it so is intellectually dishonest and gets those who do not know any better to follow him.There people like this in my class, we attend the same school but they ignore what it says because they don't like it and try to pass off some illegitimate interpretation as the truth, it is just absurd.Obama, like nearly all liberals do except this when it suits them.Why? because the constitution does not allow them the government they want.That is where the whole absurd "living constitution" idea came from, that it means something different now than it did then.No! The constitution's meaning only changes via the amendment process!

What is all this about? safety? ha no, it's about taking away the means to defend yourself against tyranny in whatever form it may come.The secondment is about an individual's right to self preservation, but for collectivists like obama and his loyal band of ignorant followers, individual rights do not matter.

Tribesman

02-27-13, 05:43 PM

Half of the battle is spreading the word and waking people u,
True, spread the word of Obamas secret army of nazi dentists and top it off with some boy scouts for illustrative purposes:yeah:

I think for myself.
Evidence suggests that you don't think for yourself, and that is being generous on the allotment of thinking.

Takeda Shingen

02-27-13, 05:48 PM

I think for myself.Please tell me where the holes are? I doubt you have read obama's books, studied him as extensively as I have. Know thy enemy, well I do.

All you have done is set up the usual fallacy of the conspiracy theorist. Any reply from Dowly is now automatically negated under your clause that disagreement with your stance, regardless of fact or merit, is erronious due to ignorance.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is why you cannot and should not waste your time arguing with such an individual. Time will prove him wrong, and when it does, he will then claim that it was his vigil that caused things to go right, much like a magic rock that keeps away tigers. Don't see any tigers outside of your house? See, the rock works.

Bubblehead1980

02-27-13, 05:54 PM

I'll bite. Give me just one example of an action he has taken which no other President has and/or which is unconstitutional.

just one will do.

The one that no other president has done(to my knowledge) The individual mandate in Obamacare is absolutely unconstitutional, and he signed it, knowing it is not. The supreme court even ruled their attempt to impose a penalty via the commerce clause was unconstitutional.Justice Robert's switched his vote and tried to justify his decision under the "tax" argument, which was total garbage.Sadly, Robert's switch was not based on constitutional law but politics, it happens.

The amnesty for some illegals via executive order , bypassing congress is not constitutional, sorry. Signing the NDAA allowing for indefinite detentions is unconstitutional. Drone strikes on US citizens which are tantamount to summary executions, unconstitutional.Pretty sure Bush did not kill US citizens with drones, not positive though.Bush did a lot of things but he is a whole different creature than obama. Bush was not pushing to disarm the citizens nor raise our taxes, putting us in even more economic bondage, nor was he trying to force things such as obamacare.I do not recall finding bush nearly as scary as obama.Perhaps this was because while may have disagreed with bush, I knew he loved this country and had the best of intentions.Bush did not associate with trash as obama has his entire life. Bush did not try to kiss the world's ass either.

Obama would absolutely seize every gun if he could. There some reports his "executive orders" were to include making so called assault weapons illegal, but he backed off the night before the press conference due to fear of backlash from the public.Well, it was reported senators urged him to back off due to the backlash.Obama can't appear to be reaching too far, when he is.

Dowly

02-27-13, 05:54 PM

Bubblehead1980

02-27-13, 06:01 PM

All you have done is set up the usual fallacy of the conspiracy theorist. Any reply from Dowly is now automatically negated under your clause that disagreement with your stance, regardless of fact or merit, is erronious due to ignorance.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is why you cannot and should not waste your time arguing with such an individual. Time will prove him wrong, and when it does, he will then claim that it was his vigil that caused things to go right, much like a magic rock that keeps away tigers. Don't see any tigers outside of your house? See, the rock works.

Okay, have you ever read his books? have you looked into this guy personally? Not what the media tells you, but looked into him? who he is? who his influences are? Basically, this man's entire life is "shady", he has always associated with radicals who think this country is unfair, it's wrong, that we need to be a big orwellian style state. The man has racial issues, look what curch he attended, read his own racist words in his book, judge his actions since.The whole cop incident, the black panthers.Read up on J Christian Adams, a whistle blower at the justice department who left because Obama's AG, acting under obama's orders, refused to have the black panthers prosecuted for voter intimidate AND also said no cases of black on white intimidation will be pursued. The Trayvon Martin case, he comes out and says "Trayvon could be my son" or something to that effect, he automatically assumes the black guy is innocent, the white guy is guilty when in all these cases, the fact is, the guys he sided with were wrong.Read his book, along with his entire life, racist.Explains a lot about him.

Bubblehead1980

02-27-13, 06:06 PM

@Bubblehead

Obama is not going to take away your guns, nor build an army to support him.
It would never, ever, work in a country like US.

What I see commonly done here (and elsewhere) is that the "enemy" is thought to
be stupid. Without any common sense, some think they go ahead and execute
their evil masterplan, no matter how stupid it is. I really doubt that Obama is THAT stupid.

This is true. I should know, I believed 9/11 was a bit fishy, until I actually researched it myself. Not my proudest moment that. :nope:

Well there is evidence to show he is or at the least, building an apparatus for future things, perhaps when he is gone but to give the government the ability to do so under the right president and circumstances. Currently, a confiscation would not work for most part, would have a lot of resistance, a lot of good people going to jail, a lot of violence between feds and citizens.A lot of local PD and Sheriffs would likely not help out either, it would be a big mess.Would I put it past this guy anyway? No. However, so called universal background checks are tantamount to registration because they will keep a record, thats part of building the apparatus for future seizures if the right opportunity presented itself.This country has a large number people who are emotionl, reactionary idiots, just need something even worse than sandyhook to happen and it probably will at some point.

The whole point is he will pursue this course despite the constitution, because he has an agenda, he is a fellow traveler, an ideologue. I could see a big political issue being a push to allow him to serve a second term, perhaps amend the constitution or find some other way, just would not shock me knowing how this person thinks.

Tchocky

02-27-13, 06:08 PM

Well there is evidence to show he is or at the least, building an apparatus for future things, perhaps when he is gone but to give the government the ability to do so under the right president and circumstances.

No, there isn't evidence, Bubblehead.

This country has a large number people who are emotionl, reactionary idiots

Hehe. True that.

Takeda Shingen

02-27-13, 06:09 PM

This is true. I should know, I believed 9/11 was a bit fishy, until I actually researched it myself. Not my proudest moment that. :nope:

I certainly had some conspiracist traits when I was younger as well. I used to talk exactly like the pre-election Bubblehead; in total lockstep with the far right. I used to parrot their arguments, and was even a viewer of the 700 Club. In fact, I donated to it. In time, I began to believe that there was a leftist conspiracy to undermine our "fundamental Christian values" (yes, I actually used that language) and to ultimately outlaw the practice of Christianity.

What needs to happen, and what happened to people like you and I, is that we were able to pull ourselves out of that cycle before going over the edge; something similar to the fiction writer's device called the Moral Event Horizon (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoralEventHorizon). In said event, a character that has been making a slide to being something of an antagonist perpetrates an act that is considered unforgivable to the reader or viewer, thus permanently labeling that character as evil. Similarly, an individual with conspiracist leanings can fall over the edge, as we have seen in this thread, by some crisis, real or imagined. In the case of the OP, the Presidential Election of 2012 was the catalyst for this change, and I fear that he may be lost for good.

u crank

02-27-13, 06:16 PM

Run, Forrest..... Run!

Dammit_Carl!

02-27-13, 06:23 PM

...The Trayvon Martin case, he comes out and says "Trayvon could be my son" or something to that effect, he automatically assumes the black guy is innocent, the white guy is guilty when in all these cases, the fact is, the guys he sided with were wrong.Read his book, along with his entire life, racist.Explains a lot about him.

I think he meant that because he is black, a black male child could have easily been his as there are generally only two sexes a child can be when they emerge from the womb.

Also, life is not kind to young, black males in the U.S. (sorry but there are many studies out there to link to just one) generally speaking - but then you get into the sticky bit of home life, father figures or lack thereof, etc., as the causative factors. There might be a greater argument that Obama could have easily gone that route himself but again that is a hypothetical sort of line to follow.

You read too much into this bit, I'm afraid, and where did he throw out that Zimmerman was guilty? Give us specifics. Make this part of your argument stick.

Dowly

02-27-13, 06:24 PM

What needs to happen, and what happened to people like you and I, is that we were able to pull ourselves out of that cycle before going over the edge

As usual, you're completely right. That's also the reason why I tend to be so
passionate when it comes to conspiracy threads. Me believing there was something
fishy about 9/11 didn't really affect my life, but over the years I've seen some that
have been affected by the blind belief. Not saying names, but I know one from
these very forums who went pretty... nuts... well.. several. :O:

All I can say from personal experience is to look both sides, look at the sources,
and look at the sources' sources.

Or nuke it from the orbit, it's the only way to be sure. :salute:

Tribesman

02-27-13, 06:28 PM

Tchocky
Hehe. True that.
:rotfl2:
Is this topic a good example?

Dowly
All I can say from personal experience is to look both sides, look at the sources,
and look at the sources' sources.

Is this topic a good example of that not happening at all?

Bubblehead1980

02-27-13, 06:32 PM

I certainly had some conspiracist traits when I was younger as well. I used to talk exactly like the pre-election Bubblehead; in total lockstep with the far right. I used to parrot their arguments, and was even a viewer of the 700 Club. In fact, I donated to it. In time, I began to believe that there was a leftist conspiracy to undermine our "fundamental Christian values" (yes, I actually used that language) and to ultimately outlaw the practice of Christianity.

What needs to happen, and what happened to people like you and I, is that we were able to pull ourselves out of that cycle before going over the edge; something similar to the fiction writer's device called the Moral Event Horizon (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoralEventHorizon). In said event, a character that has been making a slide to being something of an antagonist perpetrates an act that is considered unforgivable to the reader or viewer, thus permanently labeling that character as evil. Similarly, an individual with conspiracist leanings can fall over the edge, as we have seen in this thread, by some crisis, real or imagined. In the case of the OP, the Presidential Election of 2012 was the catalyst for this change, and I fear that he may be lost for good.

Well I am actually an atheist lol but I believe in religious freedom, thus why I staunchly defend religious liberty.Great example was last year when the big fight over obama forcing catholic charities and hospitals to provide insurance that covers things they find morally wrong.While I believe being against contraception and a woman's right to choose is just outright ignorant and idiotic, I defend it because if you give the government, especially under barack hussein obama, an inch, they will take five miles.

The 700 club? Yea that is a bit embarassing:03:.See I do not parrot the far right, I agree with some of them, but disagree with others. Espousing shared views is fine. Obama has been a big uniter for conservatives, nothing rallies the troops when they realize the enemy is at gates, in this case, the enemy made it through.

I will admit, I have lost a lot of faith in this country last november, reelecting such a failure, such a terrible person, just boggles my mind.I understand 2008, first serious black candidate, everyone was tired of bush, media loved obama, I even for a time was open to voting for him UNTIL I read his book and did research.That is the basic problem, everyone got caught up in the hype.2012 though? Romney was not a great candidate but obama reelected in the face of a stagnant economy? All the shady things he had done? This comes down to this country really has been dumbed down over the years. Most people just do not understand the complex issues, they vote on emotions, not facts.

Dowly

02-27-13, 06:37 PM

Dowly

Is this topic a good example of that not happening at all?

I do believe I mentioned to Bubbles to check the sources on "factcheck".
He didn't, so.. yes, I guess so. :yep:

Takeda Shingen

02-27-13, 06:43 PM

I do believe I mentioned to Bubbles to check the sources on "factcheck".
He didn't, so.. yes, I guess so. :yep:

Of course not. Factcheck contradicts his claims, and therefore must be discarded. It's the old two-step. Source contradicts you? It's part of the conspiracy. Person disagrees with you? He's too ignorant to see the truth. Easy as pie.

Dowly

02-27-13, 06:55 PM

Of course not. Factcheck contradicts his claims, and therefore must be discarded. It's the old two-step. Source contradicts you? It's part of the conspiracy. Person disagrees with you? He's too ignorant to see the truth. Easy as pie.

Yeah, it's the old "LALALLALALA *NOT LISTENIING* LALALALLAALA" trick.

Sailor Steve

02-27-13, 07:09 PM

Most people just do not understand the complex issues, they vote on emotions, not facts.
And yet you rant on emotionally, and when anyone challenges you to present real facts, you can't. This leaves you ranting on some more, and saying things like "Well there is evidence to show he is or at the least, building an apparatus for future things, perhaps when he is gone but to give the government the ability to do so under the right president and circumstances." Yet, when challenged, you can't show any real evidence. You then say that whoever disagrees with you hasn't read his books like you have. Can you point out any particular passage in his books that backs up what you claim? You say you have evidence, yet all you ever show is generalities, not specifics.

As I've said, I've seen people say the same things about every president going all the way back to Kennedy, and yet you cry "This time it's different!" I've tried to show you that you sound exactly like the "sheeple" you deride, but you can't see it in yourself. I'll say it out loud: You are the one who is emotional, not rational. You are the one who rants about emotion versus facts, and yet in all this you have yet to show one single fact. Now you try to use one small point out of one hundred to "prove" that you don't follow a party line, and you can't see how much you sound just like the rest of them. You fell for a con job hook, line and sinker, and you can't see the forest for the trees. Sorry for the double cliche, but in your case it is so obviously true to everyone but yourself.

Takeda's YouTube link was so spot-on that I'm ashamed I didn't think of it first.

razark

02-27-13, 07:28 PM

Can anyone actually quote the portion of the law that was passed that creates this "private army"? I keep hearing that it exists, but I've never seen anyone quote it.
I will try to find it, I quoted it in old posts on here, would have to go back to 2010 though.
So, that's a no, then? I gave you a week. (I didn't even have to look up an old thread. Thanks.)

You know what, I'll read his book, since you're so sure it will make me see the light. Do you want me to PM you my address so you can send it? Make sure you highlight the important parts, or at least bookmark the pages you think are important. After I get a chance to read it, we can discuss it all you want. Also, include some non-biased sources on his background, so I can examine those, as well.

I could see a big political issue being a push to allow him to serve a second term, perhaps amend the constitution or find some other way, just would not shock me knowing how this person thinks.
Psst! Hey, you! Don't look now, but I have it on good authority from my fellow left-wing pinko commies that there are some nefarious plans for Obama to get a second term. It's called "Last Year's Election", and I think it might already be under way.

Bubblehead1980

02-27-13, 07:31 PM

And yet you rant on emotionally, and when anyone challenges you to present real facts, you can't. This leaves you ranting on some more, and saying things like "Well there is evidence to show he is or at the least, building an apparatus for future things, perhaps when he is gone but to give the government the ability to do so under the right president and circumstances." Yet, when challenged, you can't show any real evidence. You then say that whoever disagrees with you hasn't read his books like you have. Can you point out any particular passage in his books that backs up what you claim? You say you have evidence, yet all you ever show is generalities, not specifics.

As I've said, I've seen people say the same things about every president going all the way back to Kennedy, and yet you cry "This time it's different!" I've tried to show you that you sound exactly like the "sheeple" you deride, but you can't see it in yourself. I'll say it out loud: You are the one who is emotional, not rational. You are the one who rants about emotion versus facts, and yet in all this you have yet to show one single fact. Now you try to use one small point out of one hundred to "prove" that you don't follow a party line, and you can't see how much you sound just like the rest of them. You fell for a con job hook, line and sinker, and you can't see the forest for the trees. Sorry for the double cliche, but in your case it is so obviously true to everyone but yourself.

Takeda's YouTube link was so spot-on that I'm ashamed I didn't think of it first.

Quotes from Obama's book............Page 99-101

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets." Yes obama was talking about avoiding being see with people so he was not seen as a "sell out".

Pg. 101-102......
"Tim was not a conscious brother. Tim wore argyle sweaters and pressed jeans and talked like Beaver Cleaver. He planned to major in business. His white girlfriend was probably waiting for him up in his room, listening to country music."

"I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of twelve or thirteen, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."

Those are just a couple, sure my opponents will argue context as an excuse but he said them, they are racist thoughts and his actions as president in different incidents involving race shows he still harbors such feelings.

A white guy running ever said such things? LOL he would never have made it through primaries.

There was one really offense line about when he found out his grandfather in africa worked for a white man still, the term "house ******" came to mind.:/\\!!

August

02-27-13, 07:32 PM

Dowly, change that sig. It's making my neck sore from tilting my head sideways so much. :)

Tchocky

02-27-13, 07:34 PM

Bubblehead1980

02-27-13, 07:35 PM

So, that's a no, then? I gave you a week. (I didn't even have to look up an old thread. Thanks.)

You know what, I'll read his book, since you're so sure it will make me see the light. Do you want me to PM you my address so you can send it? Make sure you highlight the important parts, or at least bookmark the pages you think are important. After I get a chance to read it, we can discuss it all you want. Also, include some non-biased sources on his background, so I can examine those, as well.

Psst! Hey, you! Don't look now, but I have it on good authority from my fellow left-wing pinko commies that there are some nefarious plans for Obama to get a second term. It's called "Last Year's Election", and I think it might already be under way.

Obviously the second term was a typo.THIRD term*

I havent had a chance to find it, I am busy thus my delayed responses. Ill find it, yes there was a link in the old threat.Of course it didnt say "private army" , it was something they called the commissioned corps or something, the law called for it to be expanded under DHS I believe .I posted about this and of course was mocked by the nay sayers in here.However, I knew I was right and now with FEMA corps graduating, DHS stockpiling ammo, launching urban warfare training in Miami, Houston(look it up, it happened) , buying APC's for urban environment.All fits together, just have to wake up, not be naive enough to assume the government will restrain itself.The naivete of some is just unbelievable .

Takeda Shingen

02-27-13, 07:37 PM

Quotes from Obama's book............Page 99-101

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets." Yes obama was talking about avoiding being see with people so he was not seen as a "sell out".

Pg. 101-102......
"Tim was not a conscious brother. Tim wore argyle sweaters and pressed jeans and talked like Beaver Cleaver. He planned to major in business. His white girlfriend was probably waiting for him up in his room, listening to country music."

"I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of twelve or thirteen, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."

Those are just a couple, sure my opponents will argue context as an excuse but he said them, they are racist thoughts and his actions as president in different incidents involving race shows he still harbors such feelings.

A white guy running ever said such things? LOL he would never have made it through primaries.

And what you are doing is cherry picking some lines while ignoring the context. Obama is refering to his "angry young man" phase, explaining the motivations for the views of his youth, talking about his transition from living in a white-dominated universe to one of blacks. His book is a story of his stuggle with his multi-racial background, and his coming to terms with who he is. You, like many of the people you listen to, make the mistake of replacing the narrative of the young Barack Obama with that of the elder Barack Obama. Of course, I might say that it is not so much a mistake as intentional misrepresentation to make a point.

Tchocky

02-27-13, 07:37 PM

The naivete of some is just unbelievable .

This is fun.

Bubblehead1980

02-27-13, 07:37 PM

On reading these lines I am shocked. How has he not been impeached already?

Not an impeachable offense to be racist.However, I was asked to provide proof, well look it up, buy/rent the book and read for yourself.

Like I have said, in 2008 I was open to voting for him, but I research people I vote for and quickly found out just what he was about.Plus his touchy feely rhetoric and the people he tended to attract made me sick.

Tribesman

02-27-13, 07:39 PM

I feel I should express my sincere gratitude.
Thank you Bubbles for stoping by to gloat, it has been a really funny episode.
Please keep up your contributions and make them more frequent.:salute:

Those are just a couple, sure my opponents will argue context as an excuse but he said them
Context????
Perish the thought, people should never consider context when it comes to words as it may imply an actual meaning.

Tchocky

02-27-13, 07:41 PM

Not an impeachable offense to be racist.However, I was asked to provide proof, well look it up, buy/rent the book and read for yourself.

Where's the racism? Seriously, where.

I see someone talking about race, and dealing with having a foot in each camp. Good luck turning that into racism.

Bubblehead1980

02-27-13, 07:43 PM

And what you are doing is cherry picking some lines while ignoring the context. Obama is refering to his "angry young man" phase, explaining the motivations for the views of his youth, talking about his transition from living in a white-dominated universe to one of blacks. His book is a story of his stuggle with his multi-racial background, and his coming to terms with who he is. You, like many of the people you listen to, make the mistake of replacing the narrative of the young Barack Obama with that of the elder Barack Obama. Of course, I might say that it is not so much a mistake as intentional misrepresentation to make a point.

I argue, given recent actions, lifelong associations etc, the evidence shows he never grew out of his "angry young man phase", obama still has a chip on his shoulder towards white people and those who have money. While he has made money, he feels guilty about it, believes that white relatively well off people owe those without, especially minorities.That is where his marxist views come into play and why he continues to push idiotic economic policies.

Show me how obama is no longer in what you call a phase? Obama's use of the race card, only appointing minority women to the supreme court, his actions in various incidents I previously listed shows he is still that angry, bigoted young man at heart.

Bubblehead1980

02-27-13, 07:46 PM

Where's the racism? Seriously, where.

I see someone talking about race, and dealing with having a foot in each camp. Good luck turning that into racism.

The racism is right there!! read what he said! Not talking about having a foot in each camp, its talking about HATING the white side of the so called camp.Feeling he was a sell out if was seen with them.Ceased advertising his mother was white?

Obama also mentions in his book he broke up with a white girl he dated in his 20's simply because she was white, no other reason. lol that is racist. I have dated a black girl, we broke up because she was a crazy bitch, nothing to do with her race.

I will never understand why some people are so eager to give him a pass.:/\\!!

razark

02-27-13, 07:46 PM

Of course it didnt say "private army" , it was something they called the commissioned corps or something, the law called for it to be expanded under DHS I believe .
Oh, these guys:
The United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps (PHSCC) is the federal uniformed service of the United States Public Health Service (PHS) and is one of the seven uniformed services of the United States.
...
As with its parent division, the PHS, the PHSCC is under the direction of the United States Department of Health and Human Services. The PHSCC is led by the Surgeon General who holds grade of vice admiral. The Surgeon General reports directly to the Assistant Secretary for Health who may hold the rank of admiral if he or she is a serving member of the PHSCC.

I posted about this and of course was mocked by the nay sayers in here.
And rightly so.

However, I knew I was right...
That's the problem. You know. You don't need to look up actual facts, because you "know".

However, I knew I was right and now with FEMA corps graduating, DHS stockpiling ammo, launching urban warfare training in Miami, Houston(look it up, it happened) , buying APC's for urban environment.All fits together, just have to wake up, not be naive enough to assume the government will restrain itself.
FEMA != Public Health Service.
DHS != Public Health Service.
Doctors, nurses, and other health professionals != "Obama's Private Army".

The naivete of some is just unbelievable .
You said it.

Come on, man. Fess up. I want to know.
Are you trolling?
Are you a deep-cover liberal making the conservatives look like nutbags?
Or are you really this stupid?

Tchocky

02-27-13, 07:46 PM

Dark as night that Elena Kagan was....

The racism is right there!! read what he said! Not talking about having a foot in each camp, its talking about HATING the white side of the so called camp.Feeling he was a sell out if was seen with them.Ceased advertising his mother was white?

Obama also mentions in his book he broke up with a white girl he dated in his 20's simply because she was white, no other reason. lol that is racist. I have dated a black girl, we broke up because she was a crazy bitch, nothing to do with her race.

I will never understand why some people are so eager to give him a pass.:/\\!!

You're starting to impress me.

Takeda Shingen

02-27-13, 07:47 PM

Bubblehead1980

02-27-13, 07:47 PM

I feel I should express my sincere gratitude.
Thank you Bubbles for stoping by to gloat, it has been a really funny episode.
Please keep up your contributions and make them more frequent.:salute:

Context????
Perish the thought, people should never consider context when it comes to words as it may imply an actual meaning.

Sure they should consider context.However, the context argument here is a false one, he said what he said and his actions over the years have shown he still feels the same.

Tribesman

02-27-13, 07:48 PM

I havent had a chance to find it, I am busy thus my delayed responses.

Well thats easy to fix
Use "Obamas secret army of nazi dentists" in the search feature and you get your pile of nonsense starting under the title
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/smartdark/subscribed.gif "Looks like Obama will have his own little private Army now":rotfl2:

Takeda Shingen

02-27-13, 07:49 PM

Sure they should consider context.However, the context argument here is a false one, he said what he said and his actions over the years have shown he still feels the same.

No, it is called literary perspective and narrative. I would expect that someone who claims to be in law school should be able to understand those concepts. However, it would not be the first time that I was wrong.

Bubblehead1980

02-27-13, 07:49 PM

You can argue as much as you like, but do you have any proof?

So you are mad that he nominated a latino and a jew, and heaven forbid that they were both women. And he's the bigot?

Yes, because it is RACIST to nominate someone just because of their ethnicity, not their merit. Sotomayor is a racist, recall he comments saying "more often than not" a "wise latin" will reach a better decision than a white male? LOL Obama nominates fellow travelers for sure. Kagan, well not sure about any racism from her but shes certainly just as dangerous.

Tchocky

02-27-13, 07:50 PM

. Kagan, well not sure about any racism from her but shes certainly just as dangerous.

Exactly.

She's Jewish.

Must be dangerous.

Bubblehead1980

02-27-13, 07:54 PM

No, it is called literary perspective and narrative. I would expect that someone who claims to be in law school should be able to understand those concept. However, it would not be the first time that I was wrong.

I understand the concept but again, it's a false argument to say his quotes are taken out of context.Want context? This book was authored when he needed money and had no clue he'd be president(this was before soros started being his political sugar daddie) , he was honest about how he felt. I guess Mein Kampf was taken out of context too? lol

Takeda Shingen

02-27-13, 07:55 PM

Yes, because it is RACIST to nominate someone just because of their ethnicity, not their merit. Sotomayor is a racist, recall he comments saying "more often than not" a "wise latin" will reach a better decision than a white male?

So every nomination that you don't like is because there is something RACIST behind it. And every minority serving in government is a RACIST. And anyone that disagrees with you is a RACIST.

LOL Obama nominates fellow travelers for sure. Kagan, well not sure about any racism from her but shes certainly just as dangerous.

Some argumentative tips for you:

1. Don't start use internet slang. Just don't.

2. Don't make bold statements and then have to retract them when they are wrong. Read first, re-read second, type third; a variation on the old engage brain then open mouth.

3. Don't follow up your retracted statements with a statement that will have to be retracted as well. Do you have any proof of the danger of Justice Kagan? What has she done?

Takeda Shingen

02-27-13, 07:58 PM

I understand the concept but again, it's a false argument to say his quotes are taken out of context.Want context? This book was authored when he needed money and had no clue he'd be president(this was before soros started being his political sugar daddie) , he was honest about how he felt. I guess Mein Kampf was taken out of context too? lol

So your argument is now down to Godwin. Obama is Hitler. Of course, earlier you said that Obama wasn't Hitler, but that was a retraction of your original post in where Obama was originally Hitler. One of the hallmarks of a conspiracy theorist is the inability to hold positions due to the paper-like strength of their foundational proof. And so, you change your position literally with every post.

Bubblehead1980

02-27-13, 08:01 PM

Exactly.

She's Jewish.

Must be dangerous.

No! Now, that is taking something out of context lol

Kagan is dangerous because she is an obamaite, shares his illegimate views of big government, executive power not given under the constitution etc. Nothing to do with her being a jew.

Recall I am a big supporter of Israel, argued with tribes over it many times.Never understood why people dislike jews so much actually.Irrational hate basically.

Takeda Shingen

02-27-13, 08:03 PM

No! Now, that is taking something out of context lol

Kagan is dangerous because she is an obamaite, shares his illegimate views of big government, executive power not given under the constitution etc. Nothing to do with her being a jew.

Recall I am a big supporter of Israel, argued with tribes over it many times.Never understood why people dislike jews so much actually.Irrational hate basically.

So why the line about those no-good minority women? Again, a retraction due to the indefensible nature of your argument.

Bubblehead1980

02-27-13, 08:03 PM

So your argument is now down to Godwin. Obama is Hitler. Of course, earlier you said that Obama wasn't Hitler, but that was a retraction of your original post in where Obama was originally Hitler. One of the hallmarks of a conspiracy theorist is the inability to hold positions due to the paper-like strength of their foundational proof. And so, you change your position literally with every post.

There you go again. I was not comparing him to Hitler, I was asserting given the evidence, his actions as an adult that he still harbors the angry racial feelings. I was being sarcastic saying "I guess Mein Kampf was taken out of context as well?" lighten up sally.

Takeda Shingen

02-27-13, 08:06 PM

There you go again. I was not comparing him to Hitler, I was asserting given the evidence, his actions as an adult that he still harbors the angry racial feelings. I was being sarcastic saying "I guess Mein Kampf was taken out of context as well?" lighten up sally.

From your first post:

On September 13, 2012, the Dept of Homeland Security graduated its first class of FEMA Corps youth, aka the Homeland Youth. Image courtesy of DHS.gov.

The federal government calls them FEMA Corps. But they conjure up memories of the Hitler Youth of 1930’s Germany . Regardless of their name, Obama’s Dept of Homeland Security has just graduated its first class of 231 Homeland Youth! Kids, aged 18-24 and recruited from the President’s AmeriCorp volunteers, they represent the first wave of DHS’s “Youth Corps”, designed specifically to create a full time, paid, standing army of FEMA Youth across the country!

On September 13, 2012, the Department of Homeland Security graduated its first class of FEMA Corps first-responders, “Homeland Youth”. While the idea of having a volunteer force of tens of thousands of volunteers scattered across the country to aid in times of natural disasters sounds great, the details and timing of this new government army is somewhat curious, if not disturbing!

From the post in question.

I understand the concept but again, it's a false argument to say his quotes are taken out of context.Want context? This book was authored when he needed money and had no clue he'd be president(this was before soros started being his political sugar daddie) , he was honest about how he felt. I guess Mein Kampf was taken out of context too? lol

You're really bad at this, kid.

Bubblehead1980

02-27-13, 08:06 PM

So why the line about those no-good minority women? Again, a retraction due to the indefensible nature of your argument.

I didn't say a thing about no good minority women.There you go again, trying to twist things that just are not true.I said obama nominates people based on their ethnicity, which is inherently racist.I then added how Sotomayor herself has made alarmingly racist statements .People have a right to be racist.However, they do not have a right to use positions they obtain to apply that racism.

Takeda Shingen

02-27-13, 08:08 PM

I didn't say a thing about no good minority women.There you go again, trying to twist things that just are not true.I said obama nominates people based on their ethnicity, which is inherently racist.I then added how Sotomayor herself has made alarmingly racist statements .People have a right to be racist.However, they do not have a right to use positions they obtain to apply that racism.

Again, your own words, kid:

Show me how obama is no longer in what you call a phase? Obama's use of the race card, only appointing minority women to the supreme court, his actions in various incidents I previously listed shows he is still that angry, bigoted young man at heart.

I can do this all day. You've typed yourself into a real corner here.

Bubblehead1980

02-27-13, 08:14 PM

From your first post:

From the post in question.

You're really bad at this, kid.

Actually, I do quite well at this.You know I have had several messages from people on here who say "I agree with you but not sure why you keeping arguing with these people, they are beyond help.I just do not argue because the ladies on here jump on anyone who is not pro obama." I did not compare him to Hitler but one can not ignore some similarities.

I don't think obama is planning mass murder or anything like that.However, I know his ideology is marxist in nature, with his own hangups on race mixed in.Obama thinks he is savior of this nation and given the means and opportunity, he would exploit it and consolidate as much power as possible.Obama is also aware that chance may not happen but he would like to do his bit, to make it easier to move towards the nation he believes we should be, thinking in the long run, it will work out for him.I know he despises our constitution and wants to as he said "fundamentally change america". Well the fundamentals of the country, individual rights, economic liberty, the pursuit of happiness are fine, it's crap of so called "progressivism" that is the problem, it's been around a while, managed to snake its way into our system and is the root of most problems.

Tribesman

02-27-13, 08:15 PM

Sotomayor is a racist, recall he comments saying "more often than not" a "wise latin" will reach a better decision than a white male?
:har::har::har::har::har:
Context young man, context.
Provide the actual quote and include the preceeding qualifiers.
since you claimed to be a legal proffessional(before you later stated that you were starting at law school)perhaps you can point out where her actual statement was faulty on a point of law.

Bubblehead1980

02-27-13, 08:16 PM

Again, your own words, kid:

I can do this all day. You've typed yourself into a real corner here.

lol I haven't, you keep saying that, trying to twist it.I used to respect you a bit, but you seem to have drank the kool aid. ah well

Takeda Shingen

02-27-13, 08:19 PM

Actually, I do quite well at this.You know I have had several messages from people on here who say "I agree with you but not sure why you keeping arguing with these people, they are beyond help.I just do not argue because the ladies on here jump on anyone who is not pro obama." I did not compare him to Hitler but one can not ignore some similarities.

Right. Like a guy that gets hit by a truck and mutters "but...I'm.......okay......" Every point that you have made has been countered, and repeatedly. You just can't bring yourself to face the fact that the things you have been told are simply not true. I do have simpathy for you, as I have been down that road too. In fact, such empathy is the only reason that I am having this conversation with you.

I don't think obama is planning mass murder or anything like that.However, I know his ideology is marxist in nature, with his own hangups on race mixed in.Obama thinks he is savior of this nation and given the means and opportunity, he would exploit it and consolidate as much power as possible.Obama is also aware that chance may not happen but he would like to do his bit, to make it easier to move towards the nation he believes we should be, thinking in the long run, it will work out for him.I know he despises our constitution and wants to as he said "fundamentally change america". Well the fundamentals of the country, individual rights, economic librty, the pursuit of happiness are fine, it's the poision of so called "progressivism" that is the problem, it's been around a while, managed to snake its way into our system and is the root of most problems.

So you're changing your position.....again. And if I were to deconstruct that one, like I did to your others, you will change it once more and we can have another go-around on the endless wheel of absurdity. Nothing I haven't seen before.

Tribesman

02-27-13, 08:21 PM

I was not comparing him to Hitler
Errrrrr..... you said his secret army of nazi dentists was Obama forming his own gestapo.:yep:

Actually, I do quite well at this.
You certainly do, if your intention is to make yourself look very silly.

Takeda Shingen

02-27-13, 08:23 PM

lol I haven't, you keep saying that, trying to twist it.I used to respect you a bit, but you seem to have drank the kool aid. ah well

I am not desirous of your respect, as your style of argument is inherently disrespectful. What value would I place on the respect of someone who clearly has none for others? No, in this case all that matters is fact, and on that you are severely lacking.

Sailor Steve

02-27-13, 08:30 PM

Quotes from Obama's book............Page 99-101

"To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets." Yes obama was talking about avoiding being see with people so he was not seen as a "sell out".

Pg. 101-102......
"Tim was not a conscious brother. Tim wore argyle sweaters and pressed jeans and talked like Beaver Cleaver. He planned to major in business. His white girlfriend was probably waiting for him up in his room, listening to country music."

"I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of twelve or thirteen, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."

Those are just a couple, sure my opponents will argue context as an excuse but he said them, they are racist thoughts and his actions as president in different incidents involving race shows he still harbors such feelings.
Context? No, and thanks for trying to divert honest discussion by predicting that others will say what you want them to say.

No, I will argue that Obama could not possibly be dangerous because he is so very stupid. If he really had a secret agenda do you think he would say it in front of everybody like that? It looks to me like he's being honest and up front about his youth, and showing how he's grown. Only a complete idiot would admit to current racism in those terms. It looks to me like your seeing not what he was saying, but what you wanted to hear.

A white guy running ever said such things? LOL he would never have made it through primaries.
Only because the white guys you appreciate aren't capable of being that honest. Try again.

There was one really offense line about when he found out his grandfather in africa worked for a white man still, the term "house ******" came to mind.:/\\!!
Did he use that term, or did you? I notice you don't quote that passage.

Dowly

02-27-13, 08:32 PM

Jebus on a batmobile, wait for me! I was gone for 2 hours and it's 3-4 pages ahead already.

Whats going on? :06:

Takeda Shingen

02-27-13, 08:36 PM

Jebus on a batmobile, wait for me! I was gone for 2 hours and it's 3-4 pages ahead already.

Whats going on? :06:

Nothing really. I'm just bored this evening. I was thinking about playing some Street Fighter against Hunter, but I switched from a gamepad to a proper arcade stick this week on my wife's advice and I still kind of suck at it. So, I played this game instead.

I probably should have went with Street Fighter, but meh.

Sailor Steve

02-27-13, 08:42 PM

I argue, given recent actions, lifelong associations etc, the evidence shows he never grew out of his "angry young man phase", obama still has a chip on his shoulder towards white people and those who have money. While he has made money, he feels guilty about it, believes that white relatively well off people owe those without, especially minorities.That is where his marxist views come into play and why he continues to push idiotic economic policies.

Show me how obama is no longer in what you call a phase? Obama's use of the race card, only appointing minority women to the supreme court, his actions in various incidents I previously listed shows he is still that angry, bigoted young man at heart.
Even if all that is true, it has absolutely nothing to do with hidden agendas and attempts to take over the country completely. We have had many presidents who were heavily flawed, and have even been called racist. You take to different concepts, "Angry young man" and "Marxist" and put them together to prove a point. "Angry young man" and "Racist" are certainly not wholesome, but neither are they overtly dangerous. "Marxist economy" is something to argue against, and many of us do, but your original theme for this thread was that Obama is setting up secret training camps to enforce his evil will on the country. Having been shown that any evidence for that was faked, you now try to prove that what he wrote about his different feelings when he was young indicates that he is dangerously biased today.

I could write things about my youth that would make you want to have me locked up as criminally insane. You need to admit that you have a highly biased agenda that controls and colors everything you think and say.

Dowly

02-27-13, 08:43 PM

Nothing really. I'm just bored this evening. I was thinking about playing some Street Fighter against Hunter, but I switched from a gamepad to a proper arcade stick this week on my wife's advice and I still kind of suck at it. So, I played this game instead.

I probably should have went with Street Fighter, but meh.

Cant say I've liked fighting games. But pop to the subsim channel if you got nothing more. :yeah:

Madox58

02-27-13, 08:45 PM

This country has a large number people who are emotionl, reactionary idiots,

Anyone notice someone like that around these here parts?
:hmmm:

Sailor Steve

02-27-13, 08:47 PM

Sure they should consider context.However, the context argument here is a false one, he said what he said and his actions over the years have shown he still feels the same.
It was you who brought up the context argument, saying people who disagreed would use that. So far no one has. Tribesman made fun of you over it, and now you're trying to say that the context argument is false. The only one who has mentioned "context" is you, therefor you have created the classic straw man, and are now trying to knock him down.

Tribesman

02-27-13, 08:49 PM

Anyone notice someone like that around these here parts?

Be fair, going on the evidence present I don't think he knows what the words he uses mean.

Sailor Steve

02-27-13, 08:51 PM

Yes, because it is RACIST to nominate someone just because of their ethnicity, not their merit. Sotomayor is a racist, recall he comments saying "more often than not" a "wise latin" will reach a better decision than a white male? LOL Obama nominates fellow travelers for sure. Kagan, well not sure about any racism from her but shes certainly just as dangerous.
So? Many presidents have made many nominations for the wrong reasons. Many presidents have also had that come back to haunt them, since appointees, especially to the courts, often stick a little closer to the center than the man who appointed them would like. All that said, what does that have to do with hidden agendas and secret armies? We're all still waiting for you to show one piece of actual proof for your original "reason" to gloat.

Sailor Steve

02-27-13, 09:09 PM

You know I have had several messages from people on here who say "I agree with you but not sure why you keeping arguing with these people, they are beyond help.I just do not argue because the ladies on here jump on anyone who is not pro obama."
Really? That's a classic but very bad debate tactic. Claim that people have privately supported you but don't want to do it publicly. That claim can't be opposed, because that would require quoting a PM, which is very much against the rules. Because of that you also don't have to support it, for the same reasons. Anybody can claim anything. If someone doesn't step forward to support you now, we can assume you were lying.

I did not compare him to Hitler but one can not ignore some similarities.
Takeda just showed in your own words that you did. Denying it now makes you look less than honest, and less than smart. You second phrase "...but one cannot ignore some similarities", is a failed attempt to be subtle. "I didn't say it, but now that you mention it, I'll try to point it out without actually saying it."

He's right. You really aren't very good at this.

I don't think obama is planning mass murder or anything like that.However, I know his ideology is marxist in nature, with his own hangups on race mixed in.Obama thinks he is savior of this nation and given the means and opportunity, he would exploit it and consolidate as much power as possible.Obama is also aware that chance may not happen but he would like to do his bit, to make it easier to move towards the nation he believes we should be, thinking in the long run, it will work out for him.
Even if we were to assume that was true, it's no worse than many presidents have been, and it has nothing to do with your original claim of secret training camps to take over the country.

I know he despises our constitution and wants to as he said "fundamentally change america". Well the fundamentals of the country, individual rights, economic liberty, the pursuit of happiness are fine, it's crap of so called "progressivism" that is the problem, it's been around a while, managed to snake its way into our system and is the root of most problems.
Now you change the subject again. You "know" he despises the Constitution? How do you "know"?

Your argument against Progressivism might actually garner some agreement and support, if it wasn't for all the insane blather about secret camps and racism. As I've tried to show you many times, and you still haven't figured out, you might actually get some agreement if you could learn that you don't know anything. It is all opinion, and trying to sway people to yours depends on being able to say it the right way, which you seem incapable of doing. Learn to discuss, not preach.

Dammit_Carl!

02-27-13, 09:27 PM

Subsim.com

Come for the Sim, stay for the enlightenment.

:()1:

razark

02-27-13, 09:32 PM

Come for the Sim, stay for the enlightenment*.
*Results may vary. Some may be more enlightened than others. Please see your doctor** if conditions persist.

**Unless your doctor is part of someone's private army.

Sailor Steve

02-27-13, 09:33 PM

If not enlightenment, at least for entertainment. :D

Madox58

02-27-13, 09:35 PM

Be fair, going on the evidence present I don't think he knows what the words he uses mean.
Can't spell them either.

RickC Sniper

02-27-13, 09:54 PM

This entire thread:

:har::har::har:

..........grabbing popcorn, brb.

Subnuts

02-27-13, 10:09 PM

This entire thread is why subsim is about boats, not gloats.

Bubblehead1980

02-27-13, 10:42 PM

Can't spell them either.

I can spell them, typos happen and only people with no real response jump the grammar nazi bandwagon.

mookiemookie

02-27-13, 10:46 PM

I can spell them, typos happen and only people with no real response jump the grammar nazi bandwagon.

Except for the fact that you've been thoroughly eviscerated and held up as the joke that you are, and this is the only thing left to mention.

Madox58

02-27-13, 10:48 PM

I can spell them, typos happen and only people with no real response jump the grammar nazi bandwagon.
:haha:

Of all the posts. That gets a quick responce?
:o

I'm so glad I don't have to visit the 'other' nut case sights for awhile anyway.

August

02-27-13, 10:51 PM

I can spell them, typos happen and only people with no real response jump the grammar nazi bandwagon.

Use the spell checker. No excuse for misspelled words on a computer. You ain't using a typewriter.

Madox58

02-27-13, 10:56 PM

Use the spell checker.
I'd suspect those are another Obama plan he'll be happy to explain in great detail.
Much to our delight and amusement.
:yep:

mookiemookie

02-27-13, 10:58 PM

http://i.imgur.com/W6TqxeH.gif

Madox58

02-27-13, 11:00 PM

We're talking about SPELLING, not SPILLING!
:D

Bubblehead1980

02-27-13, 11:06 PM

Stealhead

02-27-13, 11:19 PM

Conspiracy theorist getting introduced to reality.

http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q527/datsun260zyojimbo/1300813421_2-car-nutshot_zps95358248.gif

Madox58

02-27-13, 11:19 PM

Well. If things are going to go crazy, and you REALLY want to believe that?
Why stay down here in the South?
All the 'wackadoodle' sites say you should go North somewhere.
:hmmm:

Takeda Shingen

02-27-13, 11:27 PM

Sixteen pages of having his backside handed to him and still he's learned nothing. There comes a point when sticking to your guns is no longer virtuous.

Madox58

02-27-13, 11:32 PM

I think virtue went out the window long ago.

Stealhead

02-27-13, 11:42 PM

I think virtue went out the window long ago.

I'd say around the time that he selected the title of this thread at most.Of course I do not want to know what virtue means in the Bubblehead dictionary.

Sailor Steve

02-27-13, 11:42 PM

LOL nothing like watching all the obama lovers come out of the closet...
You were just saying about having nothing left to offer? In fact you have several people who definitely lean to the right coming out against you on this. You are embarrassing them and yourself.

I stand by the OP, DHS is building a "civilian national security force" obama called for in 2008.One thing obama is good at is playing on the complacency that envelopes many of our citizens, who think things would never go that far, it could never happen here, that is just a naive.
So you're back to that. So far every piece of "proof" you've offered has been shown to be an out-and-out lie. You didn't make it up, but you believed it.

If you actually tried to discuss things, rather than preach and insist you're right, you might have figured out that a great many of us don't think "things could never go that far". We watch the government, but we watch it as a whole. We don't take one side and insist that the other side is the devil incarnate. We try to see what's really going on instead of jumping on every bandwagon that happens to roll by. As I've said repeatedly, your problem is that are convinced you are right, and rather than discuss the question honestly you do everything you can to "prove" that you're right, when in fact you have no real proof at all. As I've also said repeatedly, it's not what you say, it's how you say it.

And you still don't get it.

Tribesman

02-28-13, 03:04 AM

You were just saying about having nothing left to offer? In fact you have several people who definitely lean to the right coming out against you on this
I am afraid you are incorrect on that.
If they are saying Bubbles is talking nonsense it is because they love Obama.
It is the only answer that fits in the bubble.

Armistead

02-28-13, 07:55 AM

LOL nothing like watching all the obama lovers come out of the closet...

I stand by the OP, DHS is building a "civilian national security force" obama called for in 2008.One thing obama is good at is playing on the complacency that envelopes many of our citizens, who think things would never go that far, it could never happen here, that is just a naive.

Are you really worried about Boyscouts with airsoft guns? Let me offer you the protection of the Caswell Hunting Club. For a small fee we promise to defend you should you come under attack by this army.

Bilge_Rat

02-28-13, 08:06 AM

The one that no other president has done(to my knowledge) The individual mandate in Obamacare is absolutely unconstitutional, and he signed it, knowing it is not. The supreme court even ruled their attempt to impose a penalty via the commerce clause was unconstitutional.Justice Robert's switched his vote and tried to justify his decision under the "tax" argument, which was total garbage.Sadly, Robert's switch was not based on constitutional law but politics, it happens.

Affordable health care act: adopted by Congress, ruled constitutional by the Supreme Court, ratified by a majority of American voters in 2012. Not a presidential act at all.

The amnesty for some illegals via executive order , bypassing congress is not constitutional, sorry.

Presidential power to oversee the adminitration of justice. Used by every president since Washington. Constitutional.

Signing the NDAA allowing for indefinite detentions is unconstitutional.

Used by Lincoln, Wilson, FDR, Bush. Presidential power in time of war. Constitutional.

Drone strikes on US citizens which are tantamount to summary executions, unconstitutional.

Presidential power to protect the USA from national security threat. I think there should be more oversight on this one, but Constitutional.

August

02-28-13, 08:11 AM

Used by Lincoln, Wilson, FDR, Bush. Presidential power in time of war. Constitutional.

A. Just because they have gotten away with it doesn't mean it's constitutional.
B. Unless you can show me a declaration by Congress then we're not at war.

Bilge_Rat

02-28-13, 09:12 AM

A. Just because they have gotten away with it doesn't mean it's constitutional.
B. Unless you can show me a declaration by Congress then we're not at war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korematsu_v._United_States

surprised BH, our constitutional law student never heard of that one...:hmmm:

August

02-28-13, 10:11 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korematsu_v._United_States

surprised BH, our constitutional law student never heard of that one...:hmmm:

Sounds to me like the jury is still out on that one:

The decision in Korematsu v. United States has been very controversial.[2] Korematsu's conviction for evading internment was overturned on November 10, 1983, after Korematsu challenged the earlier decision by filing for a writ of coram nobis. In a ruling by Judge Marilyn Hall Patel, the United States District Court for the Northern District of California granted the writ (that is, it voided Korematsu's original conviction) because in Korematsu's original case, the government had knowingly submitted false information to the Supreme Court that had a material effect on the Supreme Court's decision.

The Korematsu decision has not been explicitly overturned, although in 2011 the Department of Justice filed official notice,[4] conceding that it was in error, thus erasing the case's value as precedent for interning citizens. However, the Court's opinion remains significant both for being the first instance of the Supreme Court applying the strict scrutiny standard to racial discrimination by the government and for being one of only a handful of cases in which the Court held that the government met that standard.

Bilge_Rat

02-28-13, 11:25 AM

The Korematsu principle, namely that the President has the constitutional authority to indefinitely detain anyone, even U.S. citizens, in exceptional circumstances still stands.

In fact, I'm surprised many of the posters here are still walking the streets. :D

The Supremes will get another kick at the can when they get to hear Hedges v. Obama.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedges_v._Obama

mookiemookie

02-28-13, 11:25 AM

Bubs needs to do a little thought experiment. He needs to argue against his own positions. The mark of an intelligent mind is to be able to rationally and reasonably evaluate conflicting sides of a question. One of the best ways to do that is to walk through the arguments of the side you oppose.

Bubs, I'm willing to bet you can't do it. Prove your intellectual worth to the 13 pages of people who have trashed you. Argue the fact that Obama is not creating a secret police force that's going to enforce his evil socialist plot to usurp power and name himself dictator for life.

If you can't convincingly argue that point of view, you're going to make a truly awful lawyer. That is if you're truly in law school.