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makman94
01-30-13, 02:54 PM
hello to all ,

does anyone knows what these black and red mark parts on the clock means?

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/8646/clocke.png

Lindley
01-30-13, 06:22 PM
All I could find:

http://www.cowanauctions.com/images/small/sm_r0128.jpg

BRASS RADIO ROOM DECK CLOCK FOR U.S. MARITIME COMMISSION, (http://www.cowanauctions.com/upcoming_dates_view_item.asp?ItemId=32753)

WWII era, unmarked, of solid, polished red bronze; 12/24 hour spun brass 6" dial face with second bits at 12 o'clock, black enamel spade hands and numerals, fast-slow regulator, marked with red sectors which reflect periods of silence observed by radio operators to monitor airwaves for distress signals; 7" diameter across screw bezel and 7.25" across mounting flange. Dial engraved and painted in black letters U.S. Maritime Commission.

vanjast
01-31-13, 02:14 PM
I guess if your sinking or sunk between those markers..... you're sunk!!

Singed
01-31-13, 02:44 PM
I'd seen them before and at some point growing up around boats I'd heard there were radio silence periods, maybe in a marine antiques store or something. At least with a starting point, I knew where to look.

The two red bands are periods of radio silence during which only distress signals can be transmitted. The two black bands correspond with the green bands on some other clocks, and those two periods were also radio silence to listen for coastal distress signals.

http://www.chelseaclock.com/site_assets/assets/items/49/original/Chelsea_Clock_Nautical_Catalog.pdf?1315842133

Go down and look at the radio room clock.

reaper7
01-31-13, 04:05 PM
Very interesting.

brett25
01-31-13, 06:08 PM
this is why i love subsim! great info there mate, great post makman:salute:

Harald_Lange
02-01-13, 08:36 AM
Fascinating stuff, never knew that

Gerald
02-01-13, 08:42 AM
@Singed

Interesting link, and explanation of symbols :up:

Mork_417
02-02-13, 04:29 AM
Learned something new today. :up:

VONHARRIS
02-02-13, 05:29 AM
That was new for me as well.
Nice find Singed:up:

Hitman
02-02-13, 10:39 AM
Yup, truly amazing how much uses they got from the same instruments. There were for example other clocks in ships right next to the helmsman that would ring in certain moments (You set the period of time) to remind him to make a course change :)

Singed
02-02-13, 01:47 PM
Eh the thanks to me are unfounded guys, I just sailed since I was 3 years old and spent some time in musty old ship chandlers. There use to be one at the foot of a bridge in San Leon that had all kinds neat old stuff and a parrot that screamed "help help help". I couldn't have been more than 10.

Real thanks go to Makman94 for finding interesting stuff and posting it to jog memories like this.

The one that would interest this forum is my grandfather telling me about the U-Boat spotted off Galveston by one of the coastal batteries. Sadly that is all I remember and he passed away in 77 (WWII Marine, Pacific).

HW3
02-02-13, 03:30 PM
Might have been U-171. http://www.uboat.net/articles/42.html

:salute:

makman94
02-06-13, 12:25 PM
All I could find:

http://www.cowanauctions.com/images/small/sm_r0128.jpg

BRASS RADIO ROOM DECK CLOCK FOR U.S. MARITIME COMMISSION, (http://www.cowanauctions.com/upcoming_dates_view_item.asp?ItemId=32753)

WWII era, unmarked, of solid, polished red bronze; 12/24 hour spun brass 6" dial face with second bits at 12 o'clock, black enamel spade hands and numerals, fast-slow regulator, marked with red sectors which reflect periods of silence observed by radio operators to monitor airwaves for distress signals; 7" diameter across screw bezel and 7.25" across mounting flange. Dial engraved and painted in black letters U.S. Maritime Commission.

I'd seen them before and at some point growing up around boats I'd heard there were radio silence periods, maybe in a marine antiques store or something. At least with a starting point, I knew where to look.

The two red bands are periods of radio silence during which only distress signals can be transmitted. The two black bands correspond with the green bands on some other clocks, and those two periods were also radio silence to listen for coastal distress signals.

http://www.chelseaclock.com/site_assets/assets/items/49/original/Chelsea_Clock_Nautical_Catalog.pdf?1315842133

Go down and look at the radio room clock.

thank you guys !
it is very interesting discovering things like that and i think i got an idea of what possibly these marked areas stood for.
Lindley's post also is giving a good point of their use ,saying ''...reflecting periods of silence observed by radio operators to monitor airwaves for distress signals''.
is this the same point that Signed's post says ?(my english are not helping me much here)
as i get it so far is that these marked areas where only for transimiting sos signal messages.but the question is : sos messages where on specific frequences on radio,what does the clock has to do with this ?

Lindley
02-06-13, 05:35 PM
Here this has more information:
http://www.ccg-gcc.gc.ca/RAMN2012/Pacific/Part4

A bit long however when the clock hands were at the time marked the radio operator would not send messages. Only listen on distress frequencies for any transmissions.

makman94
02-07-13, 09:47 AM
Here this has more information:
http://www.ccg-gcc.gc.ca/RAMN2012/Pacific/Part4

A bit long however when the clock hands were at the time marked the radio operator would not send messages. Only listen on distress frequencies for any transmissions.


thats a lot of reading !
so,these marked areas on clock were only for listening on distress frequencies for any transmissions , i think i got you completely now guys.
thank you again Lindley

Troublous_Haze
02-07-13, 10:49 AM
I think this clock actually belonged to very first Umbrella Corporation that was working on Secret Nazi Zombies Project :o